* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] [Animal Shelter Advisory Board on August 12, 2026] AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE AUGUST 12TH, 2026 ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AT THE WILEY MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6:18 PM WITH, WE HAVE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME. PLEASE STAND FOR THE INDICATION LED BY TODD. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND ANOTHER BLESSING OF LIFE. FATHER, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THIS GROUP, THIS MEETING HERE TO, UH, MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE ANIMALS IN OUR CITY AND THE GOVERNANCE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. HELP US TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS AND, UH, FATHER, BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, HERE AND ABROAD. PROTECT THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE AS CHRIST NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AND THE PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS CITIZENS PARTICIPATION. IF ANY CITIZEN OF WILEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANY SUBJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND PLEASE BE AWARE THAT ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ISSUES NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. SO WE CAN DIRECT OUR STAFF TO ASSIST ANYONE HAVING QUESTIONS OR ISSUES REGARDING CITY BUSINESS. AND PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR REGULAR SESSION AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR APPOINTMENT FOR A TERM ENDING JUNE, 2027. I NOMINATE AMBER PORTER . DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THE NOMINATION. ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE. WHAT'S THAT? ALL RIGHT. PLEASE ALLOW THE, UM, THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED FIVE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. I WILL STAY HERE. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON, UM, THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD VICE CHAIR APPOINTMENT FOR TERM ENDING JUNE, 2027. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MICHAEL, I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WITH A SECOND. LET'S VOTE RIGHT. PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED. FIVE TO ZERO. UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF MAY 13TH, 2026. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND LET'S VOTE, [00:05:02] RIGHT? PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED FIVE TO ZERO. UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER AND PLACE ON FILE THE 2026 SECOND QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. AND THEN JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON HERE. I HAVE, LIKE WE DID LAST TIME, I DID LAST YEAR'S AND THIS YEAR'S NUMBERS. SO IF YOU KEEP GOING PAST THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE LAST YEAR'S 20, 25 NUMBERS COMPARED TO 20, 26 NUMBERS AT THE SAME QUARTER. UM, AND THEN I'M SURE YOU'RE GONNA NOTICE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CATS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED. UM, WHAT THAT WAS IS WE HAD, UM, LIKE FOUR LITTERS COME WITH, MOSTLY THREE OF 'EM CAME WITH PARVO. MM-HMM . UM, SO THEY WERE, FIRST DAY WE GOT 'EM, WE TOOK 'EM STRAIGHT TO THE VET. 'CAUSE WE COULD TELL THAT THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING GOING ON WITH, WITH THEM. UM, AND WE TOOK THOSE GUYS TO THE VET. THEY CAME BACK POSITIVE FOR PARVO, FELINE PARVO. UM, BUT WE ONLY HAD 'EM FOR ONE DAY, SO IT WASN'T LIKE THEY WERE IN THE SHELTER. UM, AND, UH, THE OTHER KITTENS WERE TWO OTHER, UH, SETS OF KITTENS THAT WERE IN FOSTER CARE FOR A WEEK. SO THEY ALSO WEREN'T IN THE SHELTER, BUT THEY WERE POSITIVE. MM-HMM . UM, AFTER A WEEK, THE VET, THE FOSTER CALLED US, SAID, HEY, THEY KIND OF ARE WOBBLY, HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH THEIR, UH, STOOL. UM, SO WE TOOK 'EM TO THE VET AND AGAIN, ALL KITTENS WERE POSITIVE. SO THAT WAS 15 OF THE 29 WERE PARVO POSITIVE. AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER LOAD, UH, SET OF KITTENS COME IN WITH, UM, SEVERE UPPER RESPIRATORY, UH, INFECTION. BUT THEY WERE TINY. THEY WERE LIKE, PROBABLY LIKE A WEEK OR TWO OLD. AND SO WE HAD TO EUTHANIZE 'EM 'CAUSE THERE'S NO WAY, UM, THEY COULD SURVIVE THAT WITH BEING THAT YOUNG. UM, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER FIVE KITTENS. SO THAT'S 20 OUTTA THE 29. THAT WAS ALL KITTENS. BUT ONE GOOD THING, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT IT AS WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S VERSUS THIS YEAR, OUR IMPOUND FOR CAT WENT WAY UP. WE ARE, WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED MORE IMPOUNDS FOR CATS THAN WE WERE THE PREVIOUS YEAR. UM, SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE IN, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD THE, THE KITTENS THAT WERE HAD TO BE EUTHANIZED DUE TO SEVERE ILLNESSES. UM, WE DID, I CONTACTED, UM, OUR NEW, UH, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS. I CONTACTED THEM. THEY GOT ME IN CONTACT WITH BEST FRIENDS RESCUE. UM, THEY DONATED A BUNCH OF, UM, PPE STUFF, SO, UH, PROTECTION GEAR THAT WE COULD USE. LUCKILY, LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T AT THE SHELTER, SO WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN OUTBREAK AT THE SHELTER. UM, BUT WE STILL WANTED TO BE KIND OF BE PROACTIVE ON IT. SO THEY DONATED SOME STAINLESS STEEL, UH, LITTER PANS. THEY DONATED SOME GLOVES. UM, THEY DONATED SOME APRONS FOR US TO WEAR STUFF LIKE THAT, JUST TO MEDIATE SOME OF THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE SAME NUMBERS SO FAR THIS, THIS QUARTER AS WE HAVE. WE HAD THE PREVIOUS QUARTER. SO A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE INCREASE IN NUMBERS OF CATS. UH, THOUGHTS ON THAT? WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? SO I WOULD, MOST OF THEM WERE KITTENS. WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, KITTENS THIS YEAR LATE. SO NORMALLY, UM, THIS WOULD BE IN THE, PROBABLY BETWEEN THE FIRST QUARTER AND THE SECOND QUARTER. THAT'S USUALLY WHEN THE KITTEN SEASON STARTS, LIKE MARCH INTO APRIL. BUT THIS YEAR WAS MUCH LATER. IT, IT STARTED IN LIKE MAY AND JUNE. UM, SO A LOT, WE HAD KITTENS THAT I GUESS DIDN'T, WEREN'T BORN IN THAT NORMAL, AND THEN IT EXPLODED THAT NEXT MONTH. UM, SO WE HAD A BIG INFLUX OF KITTENS THAT CAME IN. UM, AND YOU'LL SEE ON OUR ADOPTIONS WHERE OUR ADOPTIONS WERE HIGH WITH RESCUE. SO WE, WE GOT POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR CATS WAS LIKE 37 CATS. UM, WE RELEASED, SO THAT'S 18 TNR. UM, SO IT WASN'T REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF TNR, IT WAS MOSTLY THESE KITTENS COMING IN. UM, AND WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO KITTENS FOR A LONG TIME, SO THEY HAVE TO BE TWO POUNDS. SO IF WE GET A KITTEN IN AND IT'S A MONTH OLD, WE HAVE TO HOLD THAT KITTEN FOR MAYBE A MONTH, MAYBE TWO MONTHS. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE BIG ENOUGH TO GET SPAYED OR NEUTERED. UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT TWO POUNDS, OR COULD BE ABOUT 12 WEEKS OLD, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. UM, SO IT'S A LONG TIME. SO WE COULD IMPOUND 'EM HERE. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK, WE HAD 25 CATS AT THE END OF THE REPORT. SO THOSE ARE ALL PROBABLY THOSE LITTER OF KITTENS THAT WE COULDN'T GET TO THE VET TO GET SPAYED OR NEUTERED AND PUT UP FOR ADOPTION. SO THEY'LL SHOW UP THIS, THIS, UH, NEXT QUARTER, THIRD QUARTER. SO ANOTHER QUESTION, OH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UH, WAS THERE A PARTICULAR AREA THAT MOSTLY CATS WERE COMING FROM? SO IT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, SPREAD [00:10:01] OUT. IT WASN'T, I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING. SO I PUT ON THE ADDRESSES OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM MM-HMM . AND IT WASN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, WASN'T LIKE SOUTH FORT OR REDWOOD AT THE LAKE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WASN'T THAT, IT WAS PRETTY SPREAD OUT. IT WAS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ONE, UH, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS TOWN. SO IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS ONE AREA WHERE THEY'RE ALL GETTING SICK AT. UM, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, AND I, I WAS TALKING, WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUE, THEY SAID THAT THAT'S CARGO'S BEEN KIND OF OUT. IT'S BEEN AN OUTBREAK THIS YEAR. UM, SO IT'S BEEN HITTING OTHER SHELTERS TOO. UH, WE, WE PROBABLY GOT LUCKY THAT WE HAD 'EM A IN FOSTER KIND OF, I FEEL BAD FOR THE FOSTERS, BUT, UM, AT LEAST THEY WEREN'T IN OUR, IN THE SHELTER WITH OUR POPULATION WHERE IT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GOTTEN EVERY CAT IN THE POPULATION. SIX. SO, SO, UM, SO THANKS FOR THAT. UM, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION, THE QUESTION I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT WAS, YOU KNOW, A BIG INCREASE IN NUMBER OF CATS. WAS THERE A PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR CAME FROM? SO IT'S THE SAME BASIC SAME ANSWER. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S SPREAD OUT. UM, I'M SURE LIKE SOME OF 'EM COME FROM THE, FROM THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S BEEN PRETTY SPREAD OUT. UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD LIKE A PARTICULAR AREA WHERE WE'VE BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD. THAT'S USUALLY IF WE GET A, AN AREA THAT'S HIT, IT'S USUALLY GONNA BE T AND R. UM, ALL OF OUR T AND R SEEM TO COME FROM, UH, REDWOOD AT THE, AT THIS TIME. UM, SO THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING KIND OF AN ISSUE AT REDWOOD FOR FERAL CATS. SO A LOT OF THE CATS THAT WE HAD, AT LEAST AS FAR AS TNR PROGRAM HAS BEEN COMING FROM THERE. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE OUR TOTAL INTAKE, IT'S BEEN PRETTY SPREAD OUT. UH, SO REDWOOD, WHERE'S THAT AREA? I'M SORRY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. SO REDWOOD AT THE LAKE IS OFF OF COUNTY LINE AND VINCENT OFF OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL IT, BUT OLD FIVE FORTY FOUR IS WHAT I CALL IT. MM-HMM . UM, SO IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THAT SPLIT. IT'S A MOBILE HOME PARK. RIGHT, RIGHT OVER THERE, NUMBER EIGHT. RIGHT. SO WE HAD A LARGE, IT LOOKS LIKE TNR WENT UP THOUGH TOO, WHICH IS, THAT WAS, IT'S A SURPRISING THAT WE HAD THAT MANY MORE KITTENS WITH EVEN AN INCREASE IN TNR THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT. SO IF, IF IT WAS LIKE JUST FROM REDWOOD, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE DOING THE TN R SO IT'D BE A LITTLE LESS KITTENS. BUT BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE GOT HIT BY THE KITTENS. IT WASN'T LOCALIZED IN ONE NE LIKE ONE MOBILE HOME PARK OR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WITH, WITH KITTEN SEASON TWO, DO YOU SOMETIMES TRY TO GET, UM, RESIDENTS TO, TO, TO KEEP THE, THE LITTERS THEMSELVES AND TRY TO HELP FIND HOMES FOR 'EM RATHER THAN BRINGING 'EM INTO THE SHELTER? YEAH, WE, WE TRY TO UTILIZE THEM. WE TRY TO FOSTERS, WE, WE TRY TO GET, UM, WE'RE VERY LUCKY. UM, WE HAVE A, A ROBUST FOSTER PROGRAM. UM, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH JUST CALL AND A LOT OF 'EM WILL TAKE IT. UM, WE CAN, UM, USUALLY MAKE A POST ON FACEBOOK AND WE GET A LOT OF RESPONSES OFF OF FACEBOOK. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY LUCKY IN THAT ASPECT. A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S KIND OF OUR FIRST ROUTE IS, HEY, I KNOW YOU HAVE KITTENS, BUT USUALLY WHAT WE SAY IS, HEY, THEY GOT A MAMA. IF THERE'S A MAMA AROUND, LET'S WAIT. AND THEN WE CAN DO TNR, UM, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE DO TNR THE WAY, IT JUST GIVES US MORE OPTIONS. AND, UM, ALSO WITH THE TNR, IT ALLOWS US TO EVALUATE 'EM. SO WE STILL PUT 'EM UP FOR ADOPTION IF THEY'RE FRIENDLY. UM, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN WE CAN, WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. WE CAN NOW RELEASE 'EM OUT AND THEY CAN GO BACK OUT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY WERE IN BEFORE. COULD YOU CLARIFY ON THE REPORT WHAT SAFEKEEPING ENTAILS? IS THAT JUST KEEPING THE ANIMALS SAFE FOR A OWNER? OR WHAT DOES THAT NECESSARILY ENTAIL? WHAT, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR ME? I COULDN'T, SO ON THE REPORT IT SAYS UNDER, UNDER QUARANTINE IT SAYS SAFEKEEPING AND THERE'S, UM, THE FOUR DOGS, ONE CAT. WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL AT THE SHELTER? SO SAFEKEEPING IS USUALLY, UM, WHEN THE OWNER HAD TO LIKE RE RELINQUISH THEIR ANIMAL, BUT NOT REALLY. UM, BASICALLY LIKE IF THEY GET ARRESTED BY PD, THEY GOT ARRESTED, THEY HAD TO GET THEIR ANIMAL REMOVED, WE HOLD ONTO THE ANIMAL UNTIL THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. SO EITHER THEY GET RELEASED FROM PDS CUSTODY OR THEY HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER PICK UP THE ANIMAL. SO IT JUST STAYS WITH US. AND WE DON'T CHARGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR THAT TYPE OF STUFF, STUFF. UM, BUT IT JUST ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE ANIMAL SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. PD DOESN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. UM, THE OWNER CAN WORK OUT WHATEVER THEY NEED TO WORK OUT AND THEN THEY CAN CONTACT US [00:15:01] THE NEXT DAY. OR THEY CAN HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER CONTACT US AND THEN THEY CAN GET THEIR ANIMAL. I REALLY LIKE BEING ABLE TO COMPARE FROM LAST YEAR. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. THAT'S HELPFUL. SO, UM, FOR THE, SORRY FOR THE, UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE CERTIFIED IN NO KILL SHELTER. RIGHT? SO, UM, DOES LIKE, BECAUSE I KNOW SAID IT'S 14, YOU KNOW, 11 TO 14% EUTHANASIA RATES. I KNOW. IS THAT, IS THAT JEOPARDIZING THAT, THAT STATUS AT ALL? OR, I DUNNO WHAT THE, WHAT THE NUMBER IS? I CAN'T REMEMBER. SO IT, IT COULD, IF WE LIKE, KEEP UP THE TREND, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER FOR THE YEAR, WE'RE AT 11.96, SO WE'RE JUST OVER IT. SO AS LONG AS WE KEEP TRENDING KIND OF THE WAY WE NORMALLY TREND, WHICH IS AROUND LIKE 5% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'LL DROP THAT BACK DOWN. WE SHOULD DROP BELOW THE 10%. UM, WE PROBABLY WON'T MAKE THE 96 OR 95% THAT WE MADE, UM, LAST YEAR. AND, BUT WE SHOULD DROP BELOW THE THRESHOLD FOR, FOR NO KILL. UM, MY QUESTION WAS JUST GONNA BE ABOUT LIKE CALLS FOR SERVICE HAS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REPORTED ON HERE. HAS THAT GONE UP A LOT SINCE LAST YEAR AS WELL? ARE YOU SEEING ABOUT THE SAME? SO I, I USUALLY, WE USUALLY DO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. OKAY. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE AND I HAVE TO LOOK IT, I COULD, I COULD MAKE SOMETHING IF WE WANT TO KIND OF DO THAT, I CAN MAKE IT LIKE A REPORT. UM, BUT WE USUALLY DO IT LIKE KIND OF AT THE EDIT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. OKAY. AND WE GET ALL THE NUMBERS COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID THE YEAR BEFORE. UM, I THINK IF WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY LIKE EIGHT MONTHS IN, I THINK IF, AND SO I THINK WE'RE TRENDING UP HIGHER FROM LAST YEAR. BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT FULLY. SO I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT. OKAY. NO, I MEAN, I DON'T PERSONALLY CARE. I I WAS JUST A QUESTION BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMAL, THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS , BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT. THE ONE THING I NOTICED IS THAT THE OWNER SURRENDERS IS REALLY A LOT HIGHER THAN IT WAS THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN AREA OF FOCUS FOR US THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS UP THOSE OWNER SURRENDERS A LITTLE BIT. UM, WE, WITH, UH, THE RENOVATION WITH COVID, WE KIND OF GOT BEHIND ON A LOT OF OUR OWNER SURRENDERS. SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CATCH UP. UM, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A PLACE OF FO LIKE A FOCUS FOR US IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE CAN GET MORE OWNER SURRENDERS IN. UM, WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIMITED BY THE SIZE OF THE SHELTER. UM, BUT, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE. OKAY. THAT RA THAT RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION. WERE YOU HAVING TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY? UM, THAT WERE WANTING TO SURRENDER? YES. YEAH. WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE LIKE A LIST OF OWNER SURRENDERS THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP, UM, FROM, LIKE, WE, WE KEEP IT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND WE KIND OF GO, SO ONCE WE HIT LIKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ANIMALS AT THE SHELTER, WE KIND OF PUT A HOLD ON THE OWNER'S SURRENDERS. UM, BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO TAKE IN STRAYS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BRING IN FROM STRAYS IN A DAY. SO WE TRY TO KEEP 'EM, ONCE WE GET BELOW A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THEN WE START CALLING THE OWNERS SURRENDERS AND TRYING TO GET 'EM INTO THE SHELTER. UM, BUT ONCE WE HIT A CERTAIN AMOUNT, SO WE USUALLY DO ABOUT 15. ONCE WE HIT ABOUT 15 DOGS, THEN WE STOP CALLING THE OWNER SURRENDERS. 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE, THAT'S BASICALLY THE SHELTER'S FULL AT THAT POINT. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE 15 OTHER KENNELS ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE WORK THAT WAY. WHENEVER YOU'RE, YOU'RE CLEANING THE DOGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY NEED A SPACE TO GO TO WHEN YOU'RE CLEANING 'EM. SO 15 RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF OUR, OUR MAX ON DOGS WE CAN GO OVER. UM, AND WE DO, UM, BUT WE USUALLY START NOT TAKING IN OWNER SURRENDERS UNLESS, YOU KNOW SOMETHING, IT'S EXTENUATED CIRCUMSTANCE COMES UP. UM, THEN WE'LL TAKE IN OWNER SURRENDER. BUT WE TRY TO KIND OF STOP AT 15 AND THEN WE TRY TO ADOPT OUT THE ANIMALS UNTIL WE GET BELOW 15. AND THEN WE CALL THE OWNER SURRENDERS AGAIN AND START, START, UH, GETTING MORE ANIMALS IN. THANK YOU. I, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT PROCESS, SO THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THAT TO ME. UM, SO WITH THE PROPOSED, UH, BOND, [00:20:01] UH, FOR NEW ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU, IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY INCREASE YOUR CAPACITY. DO, DO YOU, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE IT TO, IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT BE? YEAH, SO WHEN WE DID OUR, UM, WE DID A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UM, BACK IN 2024 I THINK, OR 2023, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, AND IT WAS, IT WAS 30 DOG KENNELS THAT WERE USABLE. UM, SO DOUBLING WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, ESSENTIALLY. UM, AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH CATS. IT WAS ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 30 32 KENNELS FOR CATS. RIGHT NOW FOR CATS. UM, WE HAVE LIKE THE LITTLE TOWERS THAT WE USE INDIVIDUAL TOWERS. SO WE HAVE ABOUT, UM, 10 OF THOSE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, A INTAKE ROOM FOR CATS THAT HOLDS, UM, SOMEWHERE WITH ABOUT THAT SAME AMOUNT, 10 10 OR SO CATS. UM, SO ONCE THOSE FILL UP, THEN WE HAVE NO MORE SPACE FOR CATS. UM, SO 30 WAS WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED FOR THE CAT ROOM AS WELL. 32, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF ME, OF ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, TUNING IN TO, UH, FIND OUT ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT AS THE BOND COMES IN. UH, I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND JUST WHAT THIS NEW ANIMAL SHELTER WILL BRING TO THE CITY. AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UH, SURRENDER, I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT POLICY AND THAT, THAT Y'ALL WERE OPERATING THAT WAY. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY EDUCATED ON THE FACT THAT WE, HEY, YOU KNOW, FOR FULL, WE CAN'T TAKE OWNER SURRENDERS AND THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. SO THANK YOU. I THINK I'VE HAD ALL MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THIS REPORT. MM-HMM . SO, UM, I JUST, JUST TO SAY I'M, I'M GOOD. I'M SATISFIED. SO THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD REPORT. APPRECIATE IT. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE REPORT AS PRESENTED. I SECOND RIGHT WITH A SECOND, WE CAN VOTE. RIGHT? PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED. FIVE TO ZERO. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS AN INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH THE COLLIN COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE. UM, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MIGHT, UH, THIS, UH, IS IN RELATION TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED EARLIER MM-HMM . AND WE ARE REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTATION, UH, BASED ON THAT WORK SESSION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THEN, UH, WE ARE MAKING A MOTION, UH, THIS EVENING TO ACCEPT THIS. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? OKAY, THANK YOU. YEAH. AND, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS SOME RECOMMENDATION ON LIMITING, LIKE THE NUMBER OF SKILLS ON ANIMALS. SO IF YOU GO TO LIKE, SKILL LIMIT ENFORCEMENT, THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF PUT THAT VERBIAGE. UM, JUST TRYING TO, LIKE YOU GUYS WERE RECOMMENDING, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, UM, AND THE, AND THE COLLEGE WAS IN AGREEMENT. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW THEIR, HOW THEIR SYSTEM WORKS TOO. BUT THIS IS IN LIKE CLEAR CUT, LIKE, HEY, NO, UM, NO DOING MULTIPLE SKILLS ON MULTIPLE DOG, ON ONE DOG. UM, AND IT PUTS A LIMIT ON ON THAT. COULD YOU POINT OUT WHERE THAT WAS IN THE DOCUMENT? I'M, I'M SCANNING THROUGH, I HADN'T FOUND IT YET. SO YEAH, SORRY. IT'S ON THE, UH, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE PART. AND SO IT'S, IT'S UNDER THE SKILL ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS NUMBER THREE UNDER PROCEDURES, PAGE NUMBER 23. ANY FURTHER? OH, NEXT QUESTION. [00:25:03] JUST A, A QUESTION. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAD THE, THE SESSION. SO ARE THEY, ARE THEY TAKING THE ANIMALS TO FROM THE SHELTER TO THE COLLEGE? OR ARE THEY DOING THE SERVICES AT THE SHELTER? I, I BELIEVE IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. SO IT'S JUST GONNA DEPEND ON HOW, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO IF IT'S LIKE SOMETHING LIKE A SURGERY, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE IT, UM, TO ONE OF, ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES OR LABS THAT THEY HAVE. UM, IF IT'S JUST SOMETHING LIKE SIMPLE AS DRAWING BLOOD, THEN THEY CAN DO THAT AT THE SHELTER. UM, AND SO IT'S JUST GONNA DEPEND ON THE LEVEL OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. UH, I BELIEVE THEY ALSO DO LIKE SPAY AND NEU AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE DONE AT ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES. SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. SEE, I THINK I REMEMBER SEEING SOMETHING ABOUT DENTALS TOO, WHICH WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY OFF CAMPUS, BUT ON THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ON NUMBER EIGHT ENFORCEMENT, I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SUSPENSION OF THE PROGRAM, REMOVE ALL OF THE ANIMAL, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT MENTIONS MAYBE A STUDENT. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD IN THERE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COLIN COLLEGE HAS TO APPROVE? SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE COLLEGE WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE. 'CAUSE IT'S A STUDENT. WE CAN, WE CAN, LIKE IT SAYS ON HERE, WE CAN KIND OF REMOVE THE WHOLE PROGRAM, BUT WE CAN'T LIKE DISCIPLINE THE ONE, THE STUDENT, IT DOES SAY UNDER NUMBER SIX, IF THEY, IF THAT WOULD, THE ANIMAL SERVICES CAN HALT IT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG GOING UNDER SUPERVISION REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY DO HAVE A LI IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AUTHORITY TO STOP, STOP ACTIVITY MM-HMM . BUT THE, SO THE, THE, SO OBVIOUSLY THE STUFF AT THE SHELTER WOULD BE SUPERVISED BY YOU ALL, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE, IF IT WENT, IF THEY TOOK THEM TO AN OFF IF OFF AUDIT AWAY FROM THE SHELTER, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULD JUST BE SUPERVISED. I CALL 'EM COLLEGE STAFF. RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. SO MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY, YEAH. TO, TO APPROVE WHAT WAS WHAT'S IN HERE. AND THEN SO THAT I CAN PRESENT IT TO A COUNCIL FOR, FOR APPROVAL. I DON'T, IF ANYONE KNOWS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE INTER LOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT, UH, AS PRESENTED AND HAVE 'EM SUBMIT IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE. I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WITH THE SECOND, LET'S VOTE. PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED FIVE TO ZERO. WITH NO FURTHER ITEMS ON THE REGULAR SESSION, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE WORK SESSION. UM, TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE ITEM. IT'S, UH, TO DISCUSS A PARTNERSHIP WITH ADOPT MY HEART. ALRIGHT, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, ALLISON DID HER PRESENTATION. WE KIND OF DISCUSSED IT. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, ONE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, BUDGETARY EFFECTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT, UM, SO I WAS ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND STUFF. UH, I WENT BACK TO LIKE 20, 24. I DIDN'T KEEP GOING BACK. [00:30:01] UM, BUT AS FAR FROM WHAT I SAW ON THERE, SO WE HAD A TOTAL OF, LET'S SEE, THREE THIS YEAR THAT WERE, UM, HEARTWORM POSITIVE, FOUR IN 2025. AND THEN WE HAD TWO IN 2024 THAT WERE POSITIVE THAT WE HAD. UM, AND OUR TOTAL ADOPTIONS FOR 2024 WAS 120. UM, AND WHEN I WAS TALKING WITH ALLISON, I WAS TRYING TO GET HER NUMBERS ON HOW MANY ANIMALS TEST POSITIVE IN, UH, COLLIN COUNTY. UH, SHE SAID ABOUT 8%. UM, SO IF YOU TAKE, I KIND OF ROUNDED IT UP TO 10, JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER. UM, SO IF YOU TAKE 120 ANIMALS, THEN 12 OF THEM ARE POSITIVE JUST TO MAKE THE MATH A LITTLE BIT EASIER. UM, AND THAT GETS JUST ROUGHLY TO, IF WE HAVE TO DO HEARTWORM TREATMENT FOR, OR HEARTWORM TESTS FOR EACH OF THOSE ANIMALS, THEN YOU'RE TALKING, IF YOU GO TO TCAP, WHICH IS WHERE WE NORMALLY GO, UH, FOR OUR STERILIZATION, THEN IT'S $20. SO IF YOU HAVE 120 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTABLE, UM, THEN THAT ROUGHLY TRANSLATES, UH, UH, 2,400, UH, FOR THE COST. SO THAT'S OUR BUDGETARY EFFECT THAT, SO FOR 12 ANIMALS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THE PROGRAM FOR, WE'RE SPENDING, UM, 2,400 ESSENTIALLY IN THE BUDGET. UM, THAT WAS FOR 2024, AND THAT'S ONLY THE ADOPTABLE ONE. SO YOU COULD STILL GET, WE COULD PROBABLY, YOU COULD PROBABLY BE INCREASED A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE YOU COULD GET ANIMALS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE ADOPTABLE AT FIRST, GET 'EM SPAY NEUTERED. NOW THEY'RE NOT ADOPTABLE. SO, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY RARE. I'D PROBABLY SAY LIKE 10 OF THOSE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S NOT TOO, TOO MUCH. UM, AND ANOTHER THING I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, JUST TO KIND OF HELP US OUT IN THIS AREA WAS, UM, REDUCING OUR COST OF OUR VACCINES. UM, SO I WAS ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF, UM, UH, A GROUP CALLED, UH, SHELTERS UNITED. AND THEY WORK WITH A VACCINE GROUP WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO GET MOST OF OUR VACCINES DOWN TO LIKE 50% OFF TO LIKE 40%. UH, SO IT MAKES UP KIND OF THAT DIFFERENCE OF THE 24 DOESN'T QUITE REACH UP, BUT I WILL SAY 120 IN, UH, 2024 WAS OUR HIGHEST NUMBER, OUR HIGHEST NUMBER. UM, IN 2025 WE HAD 94 92 ANIMALS ADOPTED, OR DOGS, SORRY, DOGS ADOPTED. AND THEN THIS YEAR, CURRENTLY, UH, WE HAD 62 DOGS ADOPTED. UM, SO, AND THAT'S IN THE SECOND, THE SECOND QUARTER. SO WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE TRACKING PROBABLY TO GETTING CLOSE TO THAT 120 THIS YEAR. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE BUDGETARY EFFECT WOULD BE ABOUT JUST RIGHT AROUND THE 24, UP TO MAYBE 3000 A YEAR JUST TO DO THE HEARTWORM TEST FOR EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL. UM, AND THAT'S ALSO, UM, SOMETHING THAT ADOPT, UH, SORRY, NOT ADOPT MY HEART. UH, BEST THE, OUR, UH, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT DOES OUR TREATMENT FOR HEARTWORMS. IT'S JUST THAT THE, THEY KIND OF DO IT. THE FLIP SIDE OF WHAT, UH, ADOPT MY HEART DOES ADOPT MY HEART. UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THE DOG. WE CAN ADOPT THE DOG OUT AND THEN ADOPT MY HEART. WE'LL START THE TREATMENT PROCESS WITH THE OWNER SO THE ANIMAL DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY AT THE SHELTER. IT'S THE OPPOSITE FOR, UM, FORENSIC OF RESCUE ANIMALS. WE DO THE TREATMENT, THEY PAY FOR IT, SO THEY WANT THE ANIMAL TO STAY WITH US WHILE IT'S IN THE TREATMENT. SO WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THAT ANIMAL FOR THE 30 DAYS, UM, THAT IT'S IN THAT TREATMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE. SO THE COST OF KEEPING AN ANIMAL FOR 30 DAYS, UH, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD QUITE EQUAL OUT TO THAT. IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT 12 OF 'EM, I MEAN, I, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, I'D HAVE TO DO SOME MATH ON THAT ONE. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. 'CAUSE I'D HAVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HAVING, UH, THE OFFICERS WORKING, KEEPING, MAKING SURE THE ANIMAL HAS THE, THE MEDICINE IT NEEDS EVERY, UH, MORNING, EVERY NIGHT. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE NEAR THAT 3000, UM, THAT IT WOULD COST A YEAR FOR THE, UH, FOR ADOPT MY HEART. BUT I WOULD SAY, UM, US DOING THE HEARTWORM TREATMENT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER JUST BECAUSE, UM, FROM WHAT WE GET FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY WANNA ADOPT ANIMALS. USUALLY WHEN THEY WANNA ADOPT A DOG, THAT'S USUALLY THE FIRST QUESTION WE GET IS, HEY, ARE THEY HEARTWORM POSITIVE? HAVE THEY BEEN TESTED FOR HEARTWORMS? USUALLY THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS. SO IF WE COULD SAY THAT THE ADAPTABILITY, I THINK OF THE ANIMAL, WHETHER IT IS POSITIVE OR OR NEGATIVE, IS GONNA GO UP. I THINK. SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, UM, THING THAT WOULD BENEFIT US IN THAT, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS. THEY DON'T OR THEY DON'T TRACK, UM, KIND OF COMPLIANCE, UH, ADOPT MY HEART DOESN'T. SO THEY DON'T KNOW. ONCE THEY ADOPT OUT THE [00:35:01] ANIMAL, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE TREATMENT. RIGHT? YES. THEY, THEY, THEY UTILIZE THEIR VET AND THE HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD KEEP COMING. UM, BUT IF THE, IF THE OWNER DOESN'T KEEP GOING TO THE VET, THEN THEY DON'T FORESEE COMPLIANCE. OKAY. WHEREAS IF FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS ARE DOING IT, YOU GUYS ARE COMPLYING, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE TREATING THAT DOG. YEAH. YEAH. IF WE DO IT THROUGH, UM, FRIENDS OF RESCUE, THEN UM, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING. SO IT'S HERE FOR 30 DAYS AND THEN WE'RE GONNA KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T HAVE HEARTWORMS ANYMORE. AND, UM, WHAT WE DID WITH ONE OF THE DOGS, WE ACTUALLY ADOPTED HER OUT. WE FOSTERED HER MM-HMM . UNTIL THE 30 DAYS WAS UP. SO WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF GET HER OUT OF THE SHELTER. AND THEY, THE PEOPLE THAT FOSTERED HER WANTED TO ADOPT HER. WE JUST COULDN'T DO THE FULL ADOPTION UNTIL, UM, THE 30 DAYS WAS UP. SO THEY DID EVERYTHING. THEY COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE STUFF WE NEEDED TO, UM, AND WE'VE, WE HAD 'EM IN OUR SYSTEM AS A FOSTER. AND THEN ONCE THE 30 DAYS WAS UP, WE, WE GOT HER ADOPTED THROUGH, THROUGH THE FOSTER, BUT YOU WERE ABLE TO TRACK THE COMPLIANCE. SO, SO THE, SO THE 3000 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ADOPT MY HEART, THAT WAS THE COST OF THE TESTING, RIGHT? YEAH. SO 3000 WOULD BE OUR COSTS. UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 12 DOGS THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE, THAT WOULD LEAVE THE SHELTER AND THEN THEY WOULD TREAT, UM, AND THEN IT WOULD COST US, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THE HEARTWORM TEST FOR EVERY ANIMAL REGARDLESS, IT WOULD COST US, UH, $3,000 EVERY YEAR ON OUR BUDGET. AND SO, BUT IF WE DO WITH THE OTHER, THE FRIENDS, OTHER FRIENDS GROUP, SO DOES, DO WE STILL HAVE TO, I MEAN, ARE WE TESTING EVERY ANIMAL THEN? ARE WE, WE'RE ONLY, ONLY IF ONLY IF THEY, IF THE OWNER WANTS IT OR WHAT. I GUESS WHAT, HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT? SO THERE'S SOME SIGNS THAT DOGS GIVE, LIKE IF THEY HAVE HEARTWORMS THAT ARE PRETTY OBVIOUS. SO ONCE WE SEE AN ANIMAL THAT, UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S GAINING IN ANY WAY, UM, SHOWS SOME OBVIOUS SIGNS OF HAVING HEARTWORMS, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE DO THE TESTING. UM, BUT IF IT'S NOT OBVIOUS, THEN WE DON'T DO THE TESTING. SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY TIME WE WOULD KNOW IS, HEY, HE'S, HE'S KIND OF SHOWING SIGNS. LET'S TAKE HIM TO THE VET, LET'S GET HIM TESTED. UM, AND THEN THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE DO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SO THAT, THAT PEOPLE, THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE LESS ADOPTABLE, THE PEOPLE WILLING TO ADOPT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, THEY DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT YOU'RE SEEING IT SHOWING A NEGATIVE TEST ON, ON THE ANIMAL. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH. WE, WHEN WE, WHEN PEOPLE ASK THAT, WE HAVE TO JUST SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TEST THEM. UH, SO WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. AND THEN NOW THAT PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE OWNER, UM, BECAUSE NOW IF IT DOES COME BACK POSITIVE, THEY HAVE TO, UH, PAY THAT BILL AT THE VET ONCE IT DOES. SO SOMETIMES IF IT DOES COME BACK POSITIVE, THEN THEY'RE GONNA RETURN THE ANIMAL OR TO US. UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S WOULD BE A, A BENEFIT OF THE ADOPT MY HEART WOULD BE THAT HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING 'EM ALL, UH, HEARTWORM TREATED. AND EVEN IF WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH HEART, UH, ADOPT MY HEART, I, I WOULD STILL SAY, UM, SWITCHING IT TO WHERE WE'RE DOING THE HEARTWORM TEST EVERY TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE A, A GOOD IDEA. UM, JUST TO BENEFIT OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE ADOPTING, UH, MAKING OUR ANIMALS MORE ADOPTABLE. UM, I JUST THINK IT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE TRENDING. SO I THINK MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE RESCUES AND OTHER, OR THEY, IT'S JUST KIND OF A STANDARD. THEY USUALLY WILL TEST FOR THAT. RIGHT. AND SO, UM, AGAIN, I WOULD, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULD, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE'RE JUST TESTING EVERY ANIMAL LIKE THAT AND JUST DOING IT. AND, BUT I, I LIKE KEEPING IT HERE BECAUSE THEN WE ARE ENSURING THAT, THAT IT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY'RE NOT. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE, I REMEMBER I WAS TRYING TO, WAS GONNA ASK, BUT I DON'T THINK, REMEMBER THEY DIDN'T SAY, THEY DON'T REALLY TRACK TO SEE IF EVERYONE ACTUALLY DOES GOES THROUGH WITH IT OR NOT. SO, SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WE UTILIZE 'EM JUST SO THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR THE, FOR THE ADOPTER. UM, SO IF SOMETHING, BECAUSE, UH, FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS CAN'T MAYBE DO IT EVERY SINGLE TIME FOR THE TREATMENT. AND SO IF THEY KIND OF FALL THROUGH, AT LEAST WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU CAN STILL ADOPT THIS DOG. AND YES, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF TAKING IT TO THE VET. UM, BUT WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR YOU THAT'LL PAY FOR THAT HEARTWORM TREATMENT, SO YOU'RE NOT PAYING THE 1500 THAT IT'S GONNA COST FOR THAT, FOR THAT HEARTWORM TREATMENT. UM, SO OUR ABILITY TO ADOPT OUT THAT ANIMAL [00:40:01] GOES UP AND THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE'LL HAVE TO EUTHANIZE THAT ANIMAL GOES DOWN. UM, SO I THINK THE POSITIVE OUTCOME WOULD OUTWEIGH EVERYTHING ELSE, I THINK. OKAY. I LIKE THAT. UM, I, I THINK IT'S NICE THAT IF YOU WALK INTO A SHELTER AND, UH, YOU DO HAVE A HEARTWORM SITUATION GOING ON THAT YOU CAN, CAN SAY TO THE POTENTIAL ADOPTER, HEY, WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU TO CHOOSE. SO I, I LIKE THAT IDEA. MM-HMM . SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD UTILIZE FRIENDS OF RESCUE FIRST AND THEN, UM, IF THEY AREN'T ABLE TO DO IT, THEN IT TOLD MY HEART. OKAY. YEAH. THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY, THAT'S HOW I WOULD, WOULD DO IT. UM, JUST BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE MORE CONTROL MM-HMM . UM, AND IT'S BETTER FOR THE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT RELYING ON, UM, SOMEBODY TAKING THE ANIMAL TO THE VET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE CAN DO IT ALL IN HOUSE. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN, UH, EVEN IF THEY DO, LIKE, WE CAN ALWAYS REFER, LIKE IF SOMEBODY DOES WANNA ADOPT, WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE FOSTERING. UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE FOLLOWING OUR RULES. UM, 'CAUSE THE GOOD THING ABOUT FOSTERING, WE CAN ALWAYS JUST TAKE OUR ANIMAL BACK. SO, SO WITH, 'CAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET SEASON, I KNOW, WITH THE CITY. SO HAVE YOU BEEN CONSIDERING LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD THEN JUST PUTTING THAT COST OF TESTING EVERY, EVERY DOG INTO THE, INTO THE BUDGET REQUEST FOR THIS YEAR? YEAH, SO I WOULD EITHER, UM, WE, WE JUST DID OUR BUDGET UNFORTUNATELY, SO I'D HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL EITHER NEXT YEAR OR I'D HAVE TO DO LIKE A MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENT. UM, SO IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. UM, IF I CAN'T DO THE MIDYEAR, THEN I'LL TRY TO PUSH IT FOR THE NEXT YEAR. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE RIGHT AWAY. SO WE GOT SOME TIME AND KIND OF SEE HOW IT'S GOING. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE, THE SHELTERS UNITED FOR THE VACCINES, I THINK THAT'S GONNA HELP. 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA REDUCE OUR COSTS OVER TIME ON THE VACCINES, WHICH WILL KIND OF FREE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE FURTHER. UM, THE HEARTWORM TREATMENT, UH, AND THIS ALL COMES OUT OF OUR MEDICAL, SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE A, IT'S A LINE ITEM IN OUR MEDICAL, BUT I CAN KIND OF, BECAUSE IT'S ALL UNDER THE SAME, UM, ACCOUNT, WE CAN KIND OF, UH, MOVE THE MONEY AROUND A LITTLE BIT EASIER 'CAUSE IT'S ALL IN THE SAME ACCOUNT. AND THEN, UH, SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST RECOMMENDATIONS IF WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD KIND OF LIKE, UH, WITH THE, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SO THAT I CAN PUT THE AGREEMENT TOGETHER AND THEN MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN AGREE ON IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. UH, AND THEN ONCE WE, YOU GUYS AGREE WITH THAT, I CAN PRESENT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. OKAY. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY CONCERNS, COMMENTS? NO. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PLAN. UM, ALL RIGHT. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE NOW RECONVENE INTO THE REGULAR SESSION. UH, WE HAVE NO OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE. PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED. FIVE TO ZERO. WE ARE ADJOURNED. I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.