[Zoning Board of Adjustment on July 20, 2026.]
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PREVIOUS CHAIRPERSON. TERMED OUT I'M A STAFF MEMBER, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. AND SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT ITEM AND THEN MOVE ON TO A NOMINATION MOTION AND A NOMINATION FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE EVERY YEAR. SO AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I WILL TAKE A MOTION OR A NOMINATION. ANYBODY WANT TO NOMINATE EITHER THEMSELVES OR SOMEBODY ELSE FOR CHAIR? THAT MEANS YOU GET TO RUN THE MEETINGS EVERY TIME. YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
I DID CHAIR A MEETING LAST TIME. SIT IN SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IT. OKAY, GIVE ME A TURN THE MIC ON. SURE. JUST IF YOU WANT TO SAY YOU WANT TO NOMINATE YOURSELF, THEN THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN DO THAT. IT'S. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND NOMINATE MYSELF FOR CHAIR POSITION. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? OKAY. YOU HAVE TO TURN ON YOUR MIC AND SAY A SECOND. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. THEN WE NEED A VOTE. AND SHE'S GOING TO TURN FOR THOSE THE NEWER FOLKS. SHE CAN TURN THAT ON. OKAY. ENTRY MEETING AND THEN CLICK YES OR NO. WE GET EVERYBODY MISSING.
TWO MISSING ONE. DID YOU CLICK YES OR NO? OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. SO, MR. COLE, YOU ARE THE CHAIR GOING FORWARD. SO THEN WE NEED TO NOMINATE AND HAVE A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR.
IS ANYBODY WILLING TO FILL IN IF MR. COLE'S NOT HERE? HE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE HE'S ALTERNATE. SO. OKAY. PERFECT. THEN WE NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THE NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. SO MR. COLE WILL BE THE CHAIR, AND MISS GALE WILL BE THE. IS IT GALE? YES. OKAY. WILL BE THE VICE CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. SO FOR THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS A WORK SESSION WITH CITY STAFF PRESENTING ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, RULES AND PROCEDURES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO WE GO THROUGH THE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR ABOUT THIS TIME WHEN IT'S THE FIRST MEETING WHEN WE GOT NEW MEMBERS HERE. ALSO, A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER FOR THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT THIS IS BASICALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, A BIG OVERVIEW OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND, BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT AFFECTS THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT'S US IS IS AUTHORIZED TO DO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS A PART OF THAT PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND YOU'LL SEE WHY HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. SO SECTION 211008. IF YOU EVER NEED SOMETHING TO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AND WANT A LITTLE LIGHT READING, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT. BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS IS ALLOWED BY THAT SECTION OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. SO IT IS A STATE LAW. EVERYTHING WE DO HERE IS REGULATED BY STATE LAW. ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT Z BOA IS IT'S THE ONLY BOARD THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY ANSWERABLE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF Y'ALL WHEN YOU ALL MAKE A DECISION, THE ONLY WAY TO OVERTURN THAT DECISION IS DISTRICT COURT. EVERYBODY, EVERY OTHER BOARD CAN APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER IT'S PARKS BOARD OR THE ARTS DEPARTMENT OR PLANNING AND ZONING. EVEN SOMEBODY CAN APPEAL TO CITY COUNCIL ON ANY DECISION THAT'S MADE BY BY THOSE FOLKS FOR THIS BOARD.
THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO SUE. YOU HAVE TO SUE THE CITY IN ORDER TO IN DISTRICT COURT IN ORDER TO OVERTURN THAT. SO THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU THE GRAVITY OF THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE HERE.
THERE'S FOUR GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE MAKE HERE. THERE'S APPEALS TO ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS, VARIANCES TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, RECOMMENDATIONS
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TO CHANGE CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND THERE'S SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND I'LL GO OVER ALL THESE IN MORE DETAIL. APPEALS TO ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS. THIS IS PROBABLY WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF THESE, BUT WE WE DO HEAR A FEW OF THEM. BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT STAFF HAS MADE A DECISION, AND THE APPLICANT OF WHATEVER IT IS DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT DECISION. SO THEY COME TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, WE THINK STAFF'S IN ERROR AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BASICALLY SOLVE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR DISAGREEMENT. A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE LIKE A USE CASE. SO IF SOME IF WE SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE OPENING UP A PARTICULAR KIND OF BUSINESS AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE FOR YOU. BUT IF THEY SAY THEY'RE OPENING UP A CERTAIN KIND OF BUSINESS AND WE'RE LIKE, NO, WE THINK IT'S ACTUALLY THIS KIND OF BUSINESS. THEY DISAGREE WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THE CITY. YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY, THEN THEY WOULD COME TO YOU ALL AND WE WOULD PRESENT OUR OUR CASE, AND THEN THEY PRESENT THEIR CASE. AND THEN YOU ALL WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER THAT USE, YOU KNOW, WHAT USE IT IS. IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S ALLOWED OR NOT.YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE ZONING DECISIONS. YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE THINK IT'S THIS PARTICULAR USE WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE CITY, OR IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO THIS PARTICULAR USE. ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT, ALTHOUGH WE'VE NEVER I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD A DISAGREEMENT ON THIS. UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A USE FOR EVENT CENTER IN THE CITY OF WILEY. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO JUST HAVE A PLACE WHERE WEDDINGS, YOU KNOW, BAR MITZVAHS, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THINGS WERE HAPPENING THERE. WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, WELL, THAT'S LIKE A PERSONAL SERVICE USE KIND OF THING. AND YOU NEED TO HAVE SPECIAL PERMISSION IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING ORDINANCE, OR IF YOU'RE A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, YOU CAN HAVE IT THERE. AND IF THEY DISAGREED WITH THAT AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T THINK IT'S THAT WE ACTUALLY THINK IT'S MORE LIKE A COMMERCIAL INDOOR USE, WHICH IS ANOTHER USE THAT WE HAD. THEN THEY COULD COME TO YOU AND APPEAL THAT DECISION.
DOES THAT KIND OF MAKE SENSE? OKAY. SO LIKE IT SAYS THERE, YOU CAN REVERSE OR AFFIRM IN WHOLE OR IN PART OR MODIFY THE ADMINISTRATIVE ORDERS OFFICIALS ORDER, AND YOU NEED TO HAVE 75% OF THE MEMBERS ON THE BOARD HAVE TO AGREE. THAT'S ALWAYS A VOTE OF FOUR. YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR OUT OF FIVE. EVEN IF ONLY FOUR MEMBERS SHOW UP, THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE ALL FOUR MEMBERS AGREE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOUR OUT OF THE IT'S NOT 75% OF WHO SHOWS UP. IT'S 75% OF THE ACTUAL BOARD MEMBERS. OKAY. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THROUGH ALL OF OURS, ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT THINGS, VARIANCE REQUESTS. THIS IS THE ONE WE SEE THE VAST MAJORITY OF.
THAT'S TO HEAR AND DECIDE. AN APPEAL THAT ALLEGES A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE APPLIES TO A PROPERTY. SO BASICALLY THAT'S LIKE SOMEBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, MOST PIECES OF PROPERTY IN WILEY. I WAS JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS, BUT MOST PIECES OF PROPERTY IN WILEY RESIDENTIAL PIECES OF PROPERTY ARE RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE THIS WIDE AND THEY'RE THIS DEEP. WE'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE EITHER ON CUL DE SACS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AT THE END OF A STREET AND THEY'RE CUT OFF. YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A TRIANGLE SHAPE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT A SHED IN THEIR BACKYARD. THEY WANT TO PUT A PATIO COVER IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE SAME SHAPE AS EVERYBODY ELSE, MAYBE THEY CAN'T DO AS BIG AS WHAT THEY THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO. WELL, WE HAVE TO GO BY WHAT THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY SAYS, AND THE ORDINANCE SAYS, HEY, WELL, YOU'RE TOO CLOSE TO YOUR BACKYARD, YOUR BACK PROPERTY LINE. I CAN'T LET YOU DO IT. SO THEN THEY HAVE TO SAY, WELL, I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AND THEN YOU ALL DECIDE, YES, THAT IS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN ALLOW IT. NOW, JUST BECAUSE IT IS A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO ALLOW IT. AND EVERY CASE STANDS ON ITS OWN. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, YES OR NO BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AND THE LIST OF DIFFERENT. THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE. AND AGAIN, 75% AND THE VARIANCE, IF YOU DO GRANT IT, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND THAT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY. SO IT'S FOREVER. IT'S NOT JUST THE OWNER. IF THAT OWNER SELLS THE PROPERTY AND THEY DECIDE AND SOMEBODY ELSE MOVES IN, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT EXACT SAME THING. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. BASICALLY WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS SAY YOU ALL APPROVE SEVERAL VARIANCES BACK TO BACK TO BACK TO BACK. THAT COVERS KIND OF THE SAME THING. AFTER A WHILE, STAFF WILL COME TO YOU ALL OR, OR, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL CAN TELL STAFF, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE ON SETBACKS FOR ACCESSORY BUILDINGS. WE'VE HAD WHEN WHEN I FIRST STARTED, ACCESSORY BUILDINGS HAD TO BE FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A BACK OR THE SIDE. WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE PUTTING THEM CLOSER. AND AS AS BACKYARDS HAVE SHRUNK OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET HAS KIND OF SAID, HEY, WE'D RATHER HAVE A BIGGER HOUSE AND A SMALLER
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YARD AS OPPOSED TO A SMALLER HOUSE AND A BIGGER YARD. AND SO THAT'S THE WAY THE BUILDERS ARE BUILDING THEM. NOW. WHAT PEOPLE STILL WANT STILL SOMETIMES WANT A SHED OR SOMETHING IN THEIR BACKYARD. WELL, WE CAN PUSH THOSE CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE NOW. WE HAD A BUNCH OF THEM BEING APPROVED AND WE THOUGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING ORDINANCE. ALL Y'ALL WOULD DO IS TALK WITH US. WE'D HAVE A WORK SESSION AND GO, OKAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER OR A GOOD THING TO CHANGE THAT TO? P AND Z AND COUNCIL ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT CHANGE. BUT WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU THINK THOSE CHANGES SHOULD BE.OKAY, WE'VE HAD I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS AND WE'VE HAD 4 OR 5 THINGS. FENCE HEIGHTS HAVE CHANGED, PATIO COVERS HAVE CHANGED. SHEDS, YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES HAVE CHANGED, YOU KNOW, AND IT MOSTLY HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, THE WAY HOUSES ARE BUILT IS DIFFERENT. YARD SIZES ARE DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, ARE PEOPLE'S PREFERENCES HAVE CHANGED. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE USED TO CARE ABOUT, HEY, WE NEEDED THIS AND NOW THEY DON'T. HOMEOWNERS JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT ANYMORE. SO THEY'RE WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT A PERMANENT CHANGE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SPECIAL EXEMPTIONS. I KEEP THIS SLIDE IN HERE, BUT MAYBE BECAUSE SOMETIME WE'LL DO IT, BUT WE JUST DON'T. SO YOU'LL NEVER SEE THIS. YOU'LL SEE IT IN OTHER CITIES. IF YOU WANT TO GO LOOK IT UP, YOU CAN. BUT BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS THE ZONING ORDINANCE WILL SAY, THEY CAN DO THIS IF APPROVED BY THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. AND IT'LL LITERALLY SAY THAT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND WE JUST DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THE CITY OF WYLIE. SO YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ONE. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT IN CASE WE EVER DO, OR THAT YOU CAN JUST BE A WELL-EDUCATED ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS MEMBER. SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO OVER THE RULES AND PROCEDURES. JUST SO YOU KNOW, THESE ARE WRITTEN BY THE BOARD MEMBERS. THEY ARE ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. ONE THING WE TRY TO DO IS GENERALLY FOLLOW HOW CITY COUNCIL DOES THINGS. IF THE MAYOR WANTS TO DO SOMETHING A CERTAIN WAY, THEN WE USUALLY TRY TO FOLLOW THAT. BUT BECAUSE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T DO IT EXACTLY THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, ALL OF OUR START TIMES ARE 6:00, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO. BUT ANYWAY, THEY'RE THESE ARE ALL APPROVED BY THE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND IF NECESSARY, WE WILL COME TO YOU ALL WITH ANY CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S STATE LAW CHANGES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS, OR WE MAY COME TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THIS. SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO GENERAL MEETING FORMAT. THE CHAIRMAN CALLS THE MEETING TO ORDER. I ONLY DID IT TODAY AGAIN BECAUSE OUR CHAIRMAN IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD. THEN. CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS BY TEXAS STATE LAW. ANYBODY CAN COME UP IN ANY PUBLIC MEETING AND THEY GET THREE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT. SO WE DO HAVE TO ASK THAT EVERY MEETING, EVEN IF THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE, WE STILL HAVE TO ACTUALLY OPEN THAT. YOU HEARD ME SAY IT. WELL, THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE. SO THEN YOU CLOSE IT BACK UP. EXECUTIVE OR WORK SESSIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. THE WORK SESSION, EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. THOSE ARE VERY, VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN ON ANYTHING BUT CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT HAS TO HAVE TO DO WITH PROPERTY OR PERSONNEL ISSUES. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERSONNEL ISSUE. SO IT WOULD ONLY BE A PROPERTY ISSUE. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO THE ODDS OF US DOING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER DONE 1 IN 20 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WE WILL DO A WORK SESSION EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. THEN THE CONSENT ITEM FOR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON CONSENT IS THE MINUTES, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME. THEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN GENERAL BUSINESS, WHICH WILL JUST BE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE NEXT MEETING OR ANY VERY IT HAS TO BE VERY QUICK WHAT ELSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT'LL BE KEVIN OR I TELLING YOU, HEY, THERE'S A MEETING NEXT TIME, SO BE READY OR WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING OR I NEED YOU ALL TO COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, YOUR PUBLIC INFORMATION, HOMEWORK OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE ADJOURN. YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE RED THERE, TEXTING DURING A MEETING MAY AND CAN CONSTITUTE PUBLIC INFORMATION. SO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE DURING THE MEETINGS. ONCE THAT THING CALLED TO ORDER UNTIL IT'S ADJOURNED, PLEASE STAY OFF YOUR PHONES. BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY SEES YOU LEANING DOWN AND THEY DON'T LIKE THE DECISION YOU MADE, THE CAMERA'S RIGHT THERE. THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE TEXTING, BUT THEY CAN STILL GET A COURT ORDER TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE WHAT YOU WERE DOING AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. I'M SURE MOST OF US, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S STILL IT'S YOUR PERSONAL PHONE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE THAT. I WILL TELL YOU THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, AS EVEN AS A STAFF MEMBER HERE IS I HAVE EVERYTHING I DO ON MY PHONE IS DONE THROUGH OUR GOOGLE COMMUNICATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE USE WE HAPPEN TO USE GOOGLE WORKSPACE HERE. SO WHENEVER WE EVEN LIKE, LIKE ONE OF US ISN'T GOING TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE SICK OR SOMETHING THAT DAY. WE
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USE GOOGLE CHAT, WHICH IS PART OF THE LOG. NO ONE HAS ANY REASON TO EVER SEE MY PERSONAL PHONE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I DO IN MY PHONE IS ALSO ON THE CITY SERVERS OR ON GOOGLE SERVERS. SO YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT JUST HAVING A, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE THE GOOGLE APP, HAVE THAT. AND THEN YOU CAN SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S ALL I WAS DOING.ALL RIGHT, JUST A LITTLE WORD OF WARNING. ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS BREAKING IT DOWN. IF YOU GO BACK UP TO WHERE IT SAYS PUBLIC HEARINGS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THAT PUBLIC HEARING. SO THE CHAIRMAN WILL DO AN INTRODUCTION, BASICALLY READ THE THE THE WELL READ THE INTRODUCTION. THEN STAFF WILL COME UP. IT'S USUALLY KEVIN, BUT SOMETIMES I'LL DO THEM.
JUST DEPENDS. WE'LL COME UP AND GIVE YOU GUYS OUR INTERPRETATION OR OUR SIDE OF THE STORY, SO TO SPEAK. EVEN IF WE AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT, WE STILL HAVE TO. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION OR THE CITY'S ZONING PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS, AND THIS IS WHY IT IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS. THIS IS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE AGAINST IT PER SE, IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S HOW THE IT HAS TO WORK. ALL RIGHT. THEN THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP, THE CHAIRMAN OR CHAIRPERSON CAN INVITE THE APPLICANT UP IF THEY WANT TO TALK. SOMETIMES THEY DO, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE, IF THEY SHOW UP, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE WHAT THEIR NEIGHBOR IS DOING, OR THEY THINK WHAT THEIR NEIGHBOR IS DOING IS THE GREATEST THING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT TOO, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHATEVER IT IS, THEY CAN COME UP AND SAY WHAT THEY GOT TO SAY, AND THEN THE APPLICANT GETS A REBUTTAL. THE ONE THING I WILL WARN THE CHAIRPERSON ABOUT, IF IT GETS SOMETHING CONTENTIOUS, TWO THINGS YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF IS PEOPLE DOING THIS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ADDRESSING YOU, NOT THE FOLKS BACK THERE. WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE PERSONAL. IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BUSINESS TRANSACTION, SO TO SPEAK. SO EVEN IF THEY'RE IN, THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE MAD AT EACH OTHER OR WHATEVER, LIKE THAT, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE TALKING TO THEM. THEY NEED TO BE TALKING, ADDRESSING YOU ALL. OKAY, I WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT. IF I SEE THEM DO THAT. I'M NOT SHY ABOUT TELLING PEOPLE TO TURN AROUND AND FACE THE BOARD. THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT IF A CITIZEN MAKES A COMMENT, THE APPLICANT MAKES A REBUTTAL ON THAT. THEY SOMETIMES THE CITIZEN WILL BE LIKE, WELL, I WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY JUST SAID. YOU'RE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO DO THAT, BUT YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT. TRY TO KEEP THAT UNDER CONTROL WHENEVER YOU'RE RUNNING THE MEETING. SOMETIMES THE MAYOR WILL ALLOW IT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT SOMETIMES AT SOME POINT, YOU GOT TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GO, OKAY, WE'RE JUST TALKING IN CIRCLES, SO LET'S MOVE ON. THAT'S TOTALLY WHOEVER'S SITTING IN THAT CHAIR. THAT'S YOUR DECISION TO MAKE.
BUT IN GENERAL, THE CITIZEN GETS COMMENT, THE APPLICANT GETS A REBUTTAL, AND THEN WE'RE DONE. AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN GO ON. NOW, IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL PEOPLE BACK UP. YOU'RE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS EVEN AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. IF DURING BOARD DISCUSSION, Y'ALL ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED TO REALLY HEAR WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR THING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT DURING THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN CALL THEM BACK UP. OKAY, THEN THERE'S BOARD DISCUSSION AND THEN THERE'S A MOTION. NOW THERE'S APPROVED. I'M GOING TO SAY THERE'S APPROVE AND DISAPPROVE AND THEN THERE'S APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS REALLY SIMPLE. IT'S KIND OF SILLY, BUT SOMEONE COMES IN, SAY THE CITY SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING HIGHER THAN A SIX FOOT FENCE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE RULE SAYS. AND THEY'RE LIKE, I WANT TO BUILD EIGHT. WELL, Y'ALL ARE THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ALLOW SEVEN. OKAY, YOU CAN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THEM OR TALK TO THEM AND SAY, WOULD YOU ACCEPT SEVEN AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY, I WANT EITHER I WANT EIGHT OR YES, I'LL TAKE, YOU KNOW, I'LL ACCEPT SEVEN, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THAT THAT'S JUST A VERY BASIC, SIMPLE EXAMPLE TO MAKE THE POINT. YOU CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THEM ON ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN CHANGE WHATEVER THEY'RE ASKING FOR HOWEVER YOU WANT. THAT'S WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS. I WOULD JUST GENERALLY ADVISE YOU ALL TO KIND OF STAY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE REALM OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. WE NEED A MOTION AND WE NEED A SECOND. IF IT DOESN'T, IF WE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS COME UP, IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE AND NOBODY SECONDS IT, OR IF THEY MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE AND NOBODY SECONDS IT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT IS STAFF AND WHAT THE CHAIRMAN NEEDS TO EXPECT IS THAT, OKAY, WELL, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE OR APPROVE THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. AND I YOU SHOULD HAVE A SECOND THING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY, EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF SITTING THERE LIKE NOT WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND SO WE CAN GET A VOTE.
OKAY. SO IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO APPROVE IT, THEN BE WILLING TO DISAPPROVE IT. IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DISAPPROVE IT, THEN BE WILLING TO APPROVE IT. THAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THANK YOU. SHOOT. WHEN YOU SAID FOR THE APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, IS THAT CONDITION SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE ON OR SOMETHING THAT I MAY EVENTUALLY. YES. SO WHAT YOU WOULD SAY BY SAYING IT INITIALLY, LIKE, LIKE
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YOU SAID, OKAY, WELL, HOW ABOUT SEVEN? THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL OF US SAYING, HOW ABOUT SEVEN BEFORE I PUT IT OUT THERE? IT NO, IT DOES NOT. BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION, HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU WOULD SAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE AT SEVEN FEET AS OPPOSED TO THE EIGHT FEET REQUESTED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN SOMEBODY EITHER SECONDS IT OR THEY DON'T. AND IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOU THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. OKAY. BUT YES. OKAY. PACKET DELIVERY IS ALWAYS BY EMAIL. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, MAKE SURE I HAVE AN EMAIL THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH BEING PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTED. YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS PEOPLE COULD SAY, HEY, SO AND SO'S ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. I WANT TO SEE ALL THE EMAILS TIED TO THAT EMAIL ACCOUNT. SO WHATEVER THAT EMAIL IS, MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE IT, PLEASE. ATTENDANCE. THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE FOUR TO EVEN POST A VOTE. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY THAN Y'ALL PLANNING AND ZONING. EVEN CITY COUNCIL, THERE'S SEVEN MEMBERS INSTEAD OF FIVE, AND THEY ONLY NEED FOUR TO SHOW UP. I GOT TO HAVE FOUR OUT OF FIVE. SO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ATTENDANCE ON THIS, THAT THAT EVERYBODY'S HERE. I CAN, BUT I, I'VE ONLY HAD TO DO IT ONCE IN 20 YEARS. IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW AND I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU, I ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE YOU.OKAY. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I GOT TO HAVE THE FOLKS. IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW WHAT WE GOT? WE GOT VOTES WE HAVE TO TAKE. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, PEOPLE GET SICK. PEOPLE GO ON REALLY LONG VACATIONS, YOU KNOW? WELL, I CAN'T IMAGINE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS A THREE MONTH VACATION. WORK GETS IN THE WAY, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES IT'S THREE TIMES IN A ROW. BUT IF YOU JUST EMAIL ME AND SAY, HEY, I'M REALLY, REALLY SORRY AGAIN, BUT YOU KNOW, I MISSED IT IS WHAT IT IS. AS LONG AS I HEAR FROM YOU, I'M FINE. IT'S WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST NOTHING. THEN I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD ANYMORE. AND I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL TO BRING UP THE ALTERNATE AND SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY, I JUST COVERED THAT. QUORUMS. EVERYTHING HERE IS AN OPEN MEETING. DOORS HAVE TO STAY OPEN. CAMERAS ARE ON, MICS ARE ON. THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW. AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT ANYWAY TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR. RIGHT? PRE MEETING QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION YOU'RE YOU KNOW I SEND THOSE PACKETS OUT. USUALLY WE TRY TO GET THEM OUT LIKE BY WEDNESDAY. WELL NO WE HAVE TO NOW BY WEDNESDAY BECAUSE OF STATE LAW. SO MONDAY OR TUESDAY THE WEEK BEFORE. SO THAT MEANS YOU GOT ALL WEEK AND DURING THE WEEKEND. PLEASE AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AT THEM. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE ALL, WE ALL GET BUSY. WE ALL GOT STUFF TO DO, BUT AT LEAST GLANCE AT IT IF NOTHING ELSE. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, IT'S BETTER TO EMAIL ME. SO KEVIN AND GABY AND I CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH IF WE NEED TO, AS OPPOSED TO BEING UP HERE GOING, HANG ON, LET ME CHECK ON THAT.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 20 YEARS. HE'S BEEN HERE TEN SOMETHING. AND THEN HE WAS 2 OR 3 YEARS BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, SO BETWEEN THE TWO OF US, WE GOT A LOT OF TIME DOING THIS, BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING. WE LIKE TO THINK WE DO SOME DAYS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T. AND SO IF YOU CAN GET US THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE MEETING, I CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER.
YOU CAN MAKE A BETTER DECISION FOR THE CITIZENS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T THINK OF IT UNTIL THE DISCUSSION IS HAPPENING, BUT YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, OPEN RECORDS. I BEAT THAT TO DEATH, SO WE'LL SKIP OVER THAT. AND THEN CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I AM NOT ALLOWED TO TELL YOU WHETHER YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR NOT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. SO PLEASE DON'T ASK ME IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, THEN YOU NEED TO EXCUSE YOURSELF FROM THAT PARTICULAR VOTE. I WILL GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, IS A BLATANT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE, USE THAT, EXTRAPOLATE IT FROM THERE. WE'VE GOT A AN APPLICANT WHO COMES IN AND THEY WANT TO DO A BIGGER DRIVEWAY THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED IN YOUR CONCRETE CONTRACTOR, AND YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT THAT JOB. YOU WILL BE, YOU WILL FINANCIALLY BENEFIT FROM THAT VOTE. THAT IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE GRAYER ON THAT. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, I'M JUST I CAN'T I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU DO THAT. YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM. TELL GABY AHEAD OF TIME SHE'LL LET THE CHAIRMAN KNOW. AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, YOU'LL HAVE TO EXCUSE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE TO LEAVE. YOU CAN GO IN THERE, SHUT THE DOOR, OR YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE. YOU CAN'T EVEN STAY IN HERE BECAUSE THAT'S CONSIDERED INFLUENCING THE VOTE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
AND THERE'S THE THREE OF US IN CASE YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS. WANT TO RUN NOW. NO I'M JUST KIDDING. IT'S TOO LATE AND I DO. AND LET ME JUST CLOSE UP BY SAYING I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS A VOLUNTEER JOB. YOU'RE GIVING UP A NIGHT EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, TO COME AND SERVE THE CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF WYLIE. WE ALL KIND OF GET PAID TO BE HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SALARY, SO NOT REALLY. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE SIGNED UP FOR IT. I MEAN, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE IT, IT IS, YOU KNOW,
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IT'S A TIME COMMITMENT. IT REALLY IS. AND SOMETIMES IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT COMES IN AND THEY REALLY WANT SOMETHING AND YOU GOT TO TELL THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT? I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, YOU KNOW? SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING ABLE TO STEP IN AND WILLING TO DO THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. HASKINS. SO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WOULD BE. THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS TO MOVE AND ACT ON THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING. WHICH ACTUALLY WAS IN MARCH, MARCH 23RD, 2026. THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING. SO I WOULD NEED A MOTION ON THAT AGENDA ITEM. LET ME INTERJECT REAL QUICK AND JUST SAY, EVEN THOUGH YOU WEREN'T HERE OR WEREN'T ON THE BOARD, YOU CAN STILL MAKE A MOTION AND YOU CAN STILL VOTE ON THE MINUTES. AND I WILL SAY, I DID REVIEW THE MEETING MINUTES. I WAS IN ATTENDANCE, AND I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. I SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. AND THAT VOTE PASSES 5 TO 0. WE DON'T HAVE ONE. YEAH. AS OF RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A AN ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH. SO WE STILL GOT ANOTHER WEEK.SOMEBODY TO SUBMIT ONE. I WILL LET YOU KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF YOU'LL HEAR FROM ME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SAYING, YES, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING AND HERE'S YOUR STUFF. OR NO, WE WILL NOT HAVE A MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I GUESS THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING FOR TODAY. SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. SOME WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH. I SECOND MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU GUYS. OH, SORRY. NOBODY EVER VOTES NO ON THAT ONE. AND IT DOES PASS 5 TO 0. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY
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