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OKAY, IT'S NOW 6:00. I CALL TO ORDER THE WILY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR JULY 7TH. FIRST, WE HAVE THE INVOCATION BY MYSELF, COMMISSIONER BUTLER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER GOOCH. PLEASE RISE. THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME TOGETHER. PRAY, LORD, AS WE START A NEW.
SEASON OF PLANNING. ZONING THAT YOU HELP US MAKE RIGHT DECISIONS AND DO WELL, AND HELP US GET HOME SAFELY TONIGHT AND HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE WEEK. IT'S YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. UP NEXT IS COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO POP UP. AND THERE'S
[ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR ]
NOBODY. I'M GETTING A SHAKING HEAD. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. SO WE HAVE TO. IS IT A NEW SEASON? IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL IT? NEW TERM. NEW TERM.THERE WE GO. THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR. NOW WE'RE IN A NEW TERM. WE HAVE TO NOMINATE A MOTION FOR A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. SO WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE HAD OUR FULL ROSTER, BUT THAT'S OKAY. SO WE'LL GO FIRST FOR THE CHAIR. DOES ANYONE HAVE A NOMINATION? WE GOTTA HAVE ONE.
SO I'LL NOMINATE MYSELF. OKAY, WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR COMMISSIONER GOOCH. ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND THAT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND IT. WE GOT A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT. THAT PASSES 5 TO 0. DO WE NEED TO SWITCH RIGHT NOW? OKAY. AND NEXT IS NOMINATION AND MOTION FOR A VICE CHAIR. I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER CHANDLER. OKAY, WE HAVE A NOMINATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND NOMINATION.
SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 AS WELL. SO CONGRATULATIONS. SO NOW NOW WE SWITCH CHAIRS. YOU COULD. JOE, YOU STAY THERE. VICE CHAIR CAN SIT ANYWHERE. OH, GOOD. I LIKE MY SEAT. OKAY, ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. WE NOW HAVE A WORK SESSION. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO
[WS1. Hold a work session to discuss the Planning and Zoning Commissions rules, procedures, and responsibilities. ]
KEVIN. NO. WHAT DO YOU GOT FOR US? ALL RIGHT, SO AS THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR WE GIVE A PRESENTATION MAINLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW MEMBERS, BUT ALSO IT'S A GOOD REFRESHER FOR OUR RETURNING COMMISSIONERS, JUST BASICALLY WHAT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DOES AND SOME OF THE RULES, REGULATIONS, PROCEDURES, AND YOU KNOW WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT. SO THE OVERALL AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF WYLIE. WE DO THAT BY THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. IN BIG PICTURE IS THE ZONING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE IS LOTS OF OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL. WHENEVER YOU HEAR ME SAY THAT SOMETHING IS LEGISLATIVE, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE MAKING A LAW. WHEN I SAY WE MAKING, YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONLY BODY WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE LAW. BUT THIS COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO PRESENT POTENTIAL LAWS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.[00:05:02]
THERE'S SUBDIVISION AUTHORITY, WHICH IS MINISTERIAL. ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT IS ALSO ADMINISTRATIVE. THOSE ARE PLATS AND SITE PLANS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THEY'RE GENERALLY CORRECT. CORRECT. STATE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEM. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DIG DOWN IN THE DETAILS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ASK DEVELOPERS. I'M GETTING WAY AHEAD OF MYSELF, SO I'M GOING TO SKIP SOME STUFF, PROBABLY LATER ON. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T ASK DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT. THEY CAN AGREE OR NOT AGREE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS LAND USE AUTHORITY. AND THAT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN THAT A COUPLE OF YOU ARE INVOLVED IN. WELL, YOU ARE ALL INVOLVED IN IN ONE FORM OR FASHION, BUT A COUPLE OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE MONTHLY MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WHILE WE WERE PUTTING THAT THING TOGETHER OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. THE PNC COMMISSION IS MANDATED FOR ALL HOME RULE CITIES. THAT'S EVERY CITY. THAT'S NOT A GENERAL LAW CITY IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. JUST A LITTLE EDUCATION. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, A GENERAL LAW CITY IS A CITY THAT JUST USES WHATEVER THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THEIR OWN RULES OR REGULATIONS. THOSE ARE MOSTLY YOUR SMALL TOWNS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN INCORPORATED ARE MOSTLY LIKE THOSE. BUT ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN ORDINANCES, YOU KNOW THAT ADD TO OR VARY FROM THE STATE LAW WE'RE ALLOWED. THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A P AND Z COMMISSION. OURS WAS ORIGINATED IN 1956 AND WAS INCLUDED IN THE 85 CHARTER. AND KIND OF COOL THING IS, IT IS THE ONLY NON-COUNCIL GROUP THAT HAS ITS OWN SECTION WITHIN THE CHARTER. ZBOA, H, R, C, P. THE OTHER BOARD BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO NOT HAVE A SECTION IN THE CHARTER. RULES AND PROCEDURES.I SENT YOU ALL THAT EMAIL WHEN I WAS WELCOMING OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. IT'S ATTACHED TO THAT. THAT JUST BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY AS WE'RE HOLDING OUR MEETINGS. I'LL GO OVER THAT A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
IT HAS TO ULTIMATELY BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE HAD TWO UPDATES RECENTLY, 1 IN 2020 AND THEN ONE LAST YEAR. SO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES I KIND OF HIT ON THESE, BUT THESE ARE THE FIVE BIG ONES. ZONING CHANGES, PLAT SITE PLANS, ORDINANCE AND REGULATION AMENDMENTS AND LAND USE PLAN. I'LL GO INTO THOSE IN MORE DETAIL HERE AS WE GO ALONG.
ZONING CHANGES. THESE ARE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS OR THE ZONING MAP SAYS THIS, YOU KNOW, SAY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, BUT I WANT TO DO A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HYPOTHETICALLY ON IT. THEY NEED TO COME TO YOU ALL AND GET A RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. THOSE CHANGES ARE GENERALLY GOVERNED BY THE LAND USE PLAN. THAT'S WHY WE SPEND ALL THAT TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT MAKING THAT PLAN. HOWEVER, THAT THE LAND USE PLAN IS, I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE, IS A GUIDE. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE HAVE TO STICK TO IT. MAIN REASON IS WE ONLY UPDATE THAT THING ABOUT EVERY 5 TO 10 YEARS, AND THINGS CAN CHANGE PRETTY FAST. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HERE IN THIS JANUARY, I'LL HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS. WE'VE DONE TWO LAND USE LAND USE PLANS. WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WILEY WAS 15,000 PEOPLE. SO, YOU KNOW, A LAND USE PLAN FOR 15,000 PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE MUCH GOOD FOR WHAT WE GOT SITTING OUT THERE NOW. SO THEY'RE UPDATED ON A SOMEWHAT REGULAR BASIS. THE ZONING CHANGES COVERS ALLOWED. USE P AND Z MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT GIVES YOU GUYS A LOT OF AUTHORITY IN THAT IF YOU MAKE A DECISION AND SAY YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL, COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY TO OVERCOME THAT DENIAL. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS AND IT'S LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS BECOMES LAW, WHICH ALSO MEANS YOU CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING WHEN THERE'S A ZONING CHANGE THAT IS A PD OR AN SUP. IF IT'S A STRAIGHT ZONING, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S JUST SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO, I WANT TO GO. THIS IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. I WANT TO GO TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT THEY'RE DOING STRAIGHT ZONING. THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S JUST A YES OR NO ANSWER ON THAT. IF THEY'RE DOING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, YOU CAN ASK FOR A LOT MORE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THE THE LETTER OF THE LAW. AND IF YOU GOT ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, LET ME KNOW. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING, I WILL DEFINITELY TELL YOU THAT, HEY, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ILLEGAL TO DO. ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE YOU CAN'T ASK FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE OFF SITE AS A CONDITION OF OF APPROVING THE ZONING. IT HAS TO BE TIED TO THAT LAND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT. THAT'S JUST ONE GENERAL EXAMPLE. PLATS. THESE ARE BASICALLY JUST DRAWN THE LOT LINES. IT ALSO PUTS ALL THE EASEMENTS IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER THE FIRE LANES GO, WHEREVER THE UTILITIES GO COVERS, AS IT SAYS, LOT SIZES, STREET FRONTAGES, EASEMENTS, AND ALSO SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, HEY, ARE WE'RE DRAINING ALL THE DRAINAGE IS HEADING TO THE WEST. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, GO IN THAT DIRECTION AND WE MAY HAVE A DETENTION POND ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE
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ACTUALLY THE SAME SIDE IS WHERE ALL THE WATER IS GOING, THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT THE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, IT'S ESTABLISHING THE LOT. AND THEN IT'S ALSO SHOWING THAT WHAT WHAT'S PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY BUILDABLE. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THIS IF P AND Z RECOMMENDS DENIAL, THIS DOES NOT TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL. THAT BEING SAID, P AND Z NEEDS TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD REASON WHY THEY WOULD DENY THIS. NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T. NOT SAYING IT HASN'T HAPPENED BECAUSE THESE ARE GENERALLY, GENERALLY ADMINISTRATIVE OR ADMINISTERIAL IN NATURE. WE AS STAFF HAVE AT TIMES RECOMMENDED DENIAL ON SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLETE. AND THAT'S USUALLY THE ONLY TIME WE RECOMMEND DENIAL ON SOMETHING, ON A PLAT, IS WHEN WE'VE ASKED FOR INFORMATION AND THE APPLICANT JUST CANNOT GET IT TO US IN TIME, OR DOES NOT WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE FOR WHATEVER REASON.AND WE'LL WHEN WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TO POINT TO A PART IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE BECAUSE STATE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO SHOW THEM THIS IS WHY WE'RE DENYING IT. WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE DON'T LIKE THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T LIKE IT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. YOU CAN LITERALLY SAY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH REASON. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET SPECIFIC ON THAT ON THESE. WE HAVE TO GET VERY SPECIFIC ON WHY, AND WE HAVE TO MENTION ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG WITH IT. IF WE WANT TO RECOMMEND DENIAL, BECAUSE IF WE SAY WHAT'S WRONG, IF WE ONLY LIST TWO THINGS, IF THEY FIX THOSE TWO THINGS BY STATE LAW, THEN IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. WHETHER WE FIND MORE THINGS LATER ON OR NOT DOESN'T MATTER AT THAT POINT, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS THAT LOOK AT THESE THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO MAKE SURE WE HOPEFULLY DON'T RUN INTO THOSE SITUATIONS. SITE PLANS. THESE ARE AFTER THE LOTS ESTABLISHED WITH THE PLAT.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL FOR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN FOR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, BUT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THIS IS. WHERE THE ACTUAL WELL PLAN FOR THE SITE GOES. THAT COVERS BULK AND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. FOR THOSE OF YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT IS A BULK REQUIREMENT THAT'S BUILDING SIZE, BUILDING HEIGHT? HOW MUCH OF THE LAND DOES THE ACTUAL BUILDING COVER? YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE LOT SIZE, ACCESS, PARKING, LANDSCAPING, THESE ARE APPROVED BY P AND Z. THEY DO NOT GO ON TO COUNCIL. AND THESE ARE ALSO, I'M SORRY, MINISTERIAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE. THAT MEANS THAT AS LONG AS THEY MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS, P AND Z PRETTY MUCH HAS TO APPROVE IT. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T ASK THE DEVELOPER FOR CERTAIN THINGS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY DON'T LIKE THIS BECAUSE YOU KNOW OF WHATEVER. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION, LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY HAD A DRIVE THROUGH THAT KIND OF EMPTIED OUT INTO WHERE OTHER PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE COMING IN OFF OF THE ROAD. DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT WE'VE HAD 1 OR 2 OF THOSE? AND SO WE SAID, HEY, CAN YOU ADD, YOU KNOW, SOME SIGNAGE OR MAYBE MOVE THE DRIVE THROUGH WHERE IT, IT, IT ANGLES A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO 100% DO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT IT NEVER HURTS TO ASK. ORDINANCE AND REGULATION AMENDMENTS. THIS IS ANYTHING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE A CITY ORDINANCE OR A ZONING ORDINANCE. THESE CAN BE INITIATED IN A LOT OF WAYS. SOMETIMES STAFF WERE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND THIS IS OUTDATED OR DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ANYMORE, OR WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT USE IN HERE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND BRING IT TO THE PNC COMMISSION OR COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK. SO OR PNC COMMISSION CAN THINK OR DO THE SAME THING. AND SO DOES CITY COUNCIL. THERE'S A STANDS FOR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THEY'RE THE FOLKS THAT GIVE FOLKS GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS VARIANCES. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THEY'LL APPROVE A BUNCH OF VARIANCES. AND AT THAT POINT, STAFF WILL SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS MANY VARIANCES, WHAT IF WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND CHANGED THE CITY ORDINANCE SINCE WE, YOU KNOW, WILL APPROVE THOSE? USE AN EXAMPLE FROM SEVERAL YEARS BACK. WE USED TO REQUIRE THAT ALL PATIO COVERS BE THE SAME SETBACK, THE REAR SETBACK, IN OTHER WORDS, THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE AS THE BUILDING WAS NOT TO SAY THAT IT HAD TO BE BUILT WHERE THE BUILDING WAS. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOUR REAR SETBACK WAS 25FT AND SO YOU HAD TO HAVE 25FT FROM THE REAR OF YOUR BUILDING TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE.
NORMALLY THAT'S WHERE THE FENCE IS. IF YOU'RE BUILDING WAS 30FT FROM THE LINE, THAT MEANS YOU COULD ONLY BUILD A FIVE FOOT PATIO. IF IT WAS 25FT, YOU COULDN'T BUILD A PATIO. WELL, THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS KEPT HANDING OUT VARIANCES FOR THOSE, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. YOU KNOW, 25FT IS A LONG WAY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST AN OPEN, EMPTY BACKYARD IF THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU WANT IT. AND ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVED ON OVER TIME, WHERE PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH SLIGHTLY SMALLER YARDS, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE ENTERTAINMENT IN THEIR HOUSE, THEN THEY CAN HAVE A FEW PEOPLE OUT BACK. MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD POOL HAS
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BECOME MUCH MORE POPULAR THAN THE PERSONAL POOL IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WE INTRODUCED THAT TO THE PNC COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AND SAID, WELL, WHAT IF WE WENT WITH 15 OR 10FT INSTEAD? AND WE ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE SETTLED ON TEN OR I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWO. BUT ANYWAY, IT GIVES PEOPLE A CHANCE THAT EVEN IF THEIR HOUSE IS BUILT RIGHT AT 25, THEY CAN STILL PUT A PATIO OUT THERE SO THEY CAN ENJOY SOME SHADE. THOSE ARE LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN, WITHIN THE THE CONFINES OF STATE LAW, PRETTY MUCH INTRODUCE WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE RIGHTS OF THE HELM. HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THEN THERE'S THE LAND USE PLAN. I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK I SENT YOU GUYS A COPY OF THAT.THAT'S THE COMP PLAN. IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY. ACTUALLY, THERE'S A LINK ON THE WEBSITE. I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU. THIS IS GOVERNED BY STATE LAW. WE HAVE TO AT LEAST LOOK AT IT EVERY 5 TO 10 YEARS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE ADOPTED IT IN 2022. SO THAT MEANS NEXT YEAR I WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE P AND Z AND JUST SEE WHETHER THERE'S ENOUGH OF WILEY HAS CHANGED, WHETHER WE WANT TO ASK COUNCIL FOR THE FUNDING TO DO ANOTHER ONE, AND IF NOT, THEN WE JUST WE CAN WAIT A COUPLE MORE YEARS IN WILEY, WE AVERAGE ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS. EVEN AS FAST AS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, THEY DON'T CHANGE SO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY WE ARE OR, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY A BEDROOM COMMUNITY WITH A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. AND IT'S GENERALLY STAYED THAT WAY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT WITH WITH SOME CHANGES. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT COVERS LAND USE, DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL THE THINGS LISTED THERE. THERE'S A COMMISSION THAT IS TEMPORARY CREATED FOR THAT. IT WAS THE CPSC CITIZENS. THE COMP PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I THINK IS WHAT WE CALLED IT. AND THAT'S A GROUP THAT'S PUT TOGETHER BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEY DO THE THE THEY DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. AND THEN AND THEN ONCE THAT IS DONE, THEN THE, THE DRAFT DOCUMENTS AND THEN THE FINAL DOCUMENTS COME TO PNC FOR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY CONSIDERS THAT ITEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH GEARS HERE.
THAT WAS EVERYTHING THAT PNC GENERALLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GOING THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES. SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR GENERAL MEETING FORMAT IS LISTED RIGHT HERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. HERE'S THE ITEM FORMAT. THIS IS KIND OF IMPORTANT IN THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT THE INTRODUCTION STAFF REPORT, APPLICANT REMARKS AND CITIZEN COMMENTS. THIS IS AN OPEN MEETING. THOSE DOORS HAVE TO STAY OPEN AND UNLOCKED. THIS IS TELEVISED. THAT CAMERA RIGHT THERE IS LOOKING AT ME. SOMEBODY'S AT HOME RIGHT NOW WATCHING THIS. AND ANYBODY CAN TALK. WE CAN LIMIT THEM TO THREE MINUTES. THAT'S AT THE CHAIRMAN'S. WE STAFF IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO PUT A THREE MINUTE TIMER UP. THE CHAIRMAN'S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THAT. YOU KNOW, WHETHER SOMETIMES YOU LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S JUST 2 OR 3 PEOPLE AND THEY GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN'S CALL.
WHETHER THEY WANT TO LET THEM CONTINUE TALKING. AND THE ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER, THE APPLICANT HAS A CHANCE TO REBUT WHATEVER THE APPLICANTS OR THE CITIZENS HAVE SAID, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE, HEY, WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. AND HERE'S WHY THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND SAY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY. AGAIN, ONE THING THAT CAN HAPPEN AT TIMES, AND IT'S KIND OF MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A SERGEANT OF ARMS, SO TO SPEAK, ALONG WITH THE CHAIRPERSON, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'VE HAD THEIR CHANCE TO SPEAK, AND THE APPLICANT IS JUST SAYING WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY VERSUS THEM. AND WE CAN'T HAVE A BACK AND FORTH, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE. NOW, THE CHAIRMAN HAS ALL THE RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY CAN ASK PEOPLE TO COME BACK UP IF THEY WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS, YOU KNOW? BUT THAT IS BY NO MEANS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW. OKAY. ESPECIALLY A TON OF PEOPLE IN HERE. THEN THERE'S COMMISSION DISCUSSION AMONGST YOU ALL, AND THEN A MOTION. AND THOSE ARE YOUR FOUR CHOICES.
YOU CAN EITHER APPROVE IT, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, DISAPPROVE OR CONTINUE.
CONTINUE MEANS TABLING AN ITEM. THE ONLY THING YOU CANNOT TABLE OR I WILL ASK YOU TO NOT TABLE BECAUSE IF YOU DO, THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED. IS PLATS BY STATE LAW, WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO MAKE A DECISION ON A PLAT, AND WE HAVE 30 DAYS AFTER PNC SEES IT FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT. SO IF YOU TABLE IT, THEN WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IS THEN LIKE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW IS THAT THAT JUST MEANS IT GOES TO COUNSEL WITH NO RECOMMENDATION.
SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. EVERYTHING YOU'RE GOING TO GET FROM ME IS AN EMAIL. I WILL VERY RARELY TEXT FOLKS WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING LATE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I TRY TO KEEP THINGS OFF PERSONAL PHONES BECAUSE THEN THAT BECOMES A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD, WHICH IS
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SOMETHING THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN JUST A SECOND. WE APPRECIATE I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I USE KIND OF THE SAME FORMAT EVERY MOST OF MY EMAILS, BUT I SAY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS YOU KNOW, OR WON'T BE IN ATTENDANCE, PLEASE CONTACT ME. WE ASK THAT YOU ASK ALL QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND, MAINLY BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH IF NEED BE, AND GET YOU GUYS THE BEST INFORMATION YOU POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS YOU CAN. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THINK OF EVERYTHING BEFOREHAND, BUT THAT'S WHY WE SEND OUT THE PACKETS. WHEN WE DO SO, YOU GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT. IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BY ALL MEANS, BOTH KEVIN AND I ARE REALLY GOOD ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IF WE'RE SITTING AROUND ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND NOTHING ELSE IS GOING ON, WE PULL OUT OUR PHONES AND LOOK AT OUR EMAILS. SO YOU'LL EVEN GET ANSWERS OVER THE WEEKENDS. AT TIMES. ATTENDANCE IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS FOR A REASON. COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE YOU IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW, OR MORE THAN I THINK IT'S 50% OF THE MEETINGS OVERALL. OBVIOUSLY, ILLNESSES HAPPEN. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GO ON VACATIONS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES EVEN EXTENDED VACATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR GOD FORBID, BACK TO BACK. YOU GO ON VACATION AND THEN GET SICK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THOSE SORT OF THINGS HAPPEN AS LONG AS YOU STAY IN CONTACT WITH ME WILL PROBABLY BE OKAY. BUT IF I DON'T HEAR FROM YOU, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE. AND I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT YOU BE REPLACED QUORUMS. THAT GOES BACK TO THE ATTENDANCE THING. WE GOT TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE HERE TO FOUR COMMISSIONERS HERE IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION ON ANYTHING. IF WE DON'T HAVE FOUR, WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING. I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ALL THESE ARE OPEN MEETINGS, OPEN RECORDS.I'LL TALK ABOUT THEM MORE. BUT EVERYTHING WE DO HERE IS A OPEN RECORD. WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW IS BEING RECORDED AND WILL BE THERE AS LONG AS THAT THAT SERVER IS STILL HUMMING. I GUESS HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I AM NOT ALLOWED BY BASIC CITY. THERE'S NO ORDINANCE, NO RULE, NO LAW, BUT JUST OUR GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS WE DON'T GIVE ADVICE ON WHETHER SOMETHING IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR NOT. I SO DON'T ASK BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IS THAT I CAN'T TELL YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST IN IT IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, THEN YOU'RE PROBABLY OKAY. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PIECE OF ADVICE I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AT ALL AFTER THAT, AFTER THIS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR DECISION ON WHETHER YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IF YOU DO, YOU NEED TO TELL THE CHAIRPERSON, PREFERABLY BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT IF YOU DON'T, BEFORE THE MEETING IS INTRODUCED OR AS THE ITEM IS BEING INTRODUCED, YOU NEED TO EXCUSE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE TO BE OUT OF THIS ROOM. YOU CANNOT EVEN BE IN HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING CAN INFLUENCE PEOPLE. SO YOU YOU DO HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM P AND Z TRAINING. THERE IS TRAINING AVAILABLE FOR P AND Z COMMISSIONERS. IN FACT, THERE IS A IT'S A NORTH RICHLAND HILLS. IT'S ON A FRIDAY, AUGUST 7TH FROM 9 TO 4 9 TO 330, I THINK ONE COMING UP £0.04 AND Z COMMISSIONERS. IT KIND OF COVERS WHAT I'M COVERING HERE, BUT IN MUCH MORE DETAIL. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT, PLEASE EMAIL ME. THE CITY WILL PAY FOR THE ENTRY FEE. OKAY, BUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU FORGET WHAT I JUST MENTIONED. BUT YOU STILL WANT TO GO, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I WILL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. I THOSE TEND TO FILL UP, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD IS PROBABLY DOING THIS RIGHT ABOUT NOW. WELL, AT LEAST IN TEXAS, WE'VE GOT NEW COMMISSIONERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO THE SOONER THE BETTER. DID I MISS ONE? YES I DID, OH, I WENT BY THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK. THE BOTTOM ONE TEXTING DURING THE MEETING MAY CONSTITUTE PUBLIC INFORMATION. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM USING YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES DURING MEETINGS. THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER REASON WHY I TRY NOT TO TEXT ANYBODY. I WILL TRY TO GOOGLE CHAT, WHICH IF YOU HAVE GMAIL, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR THROWAWAY ACCOUNT FOR THIS COMMISSION. BUT PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE SHORT A PERSON AND IT'S GETTING GOING ON 6:00, I WILL TEXT FOLKS AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU MAKE THE MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BUT I TRY TO REFRAIN FROM THAT BECAUSE IF YOU DO ANYTHING ON YOUR PHONE, THEN IT CAN YOUR, YOUR PHONE CAN BECOME A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. I HAVE ACTUALLY A FOLDER ON MY PHONE THAT SAYS WORK AND IT HAS LIKE GMAIL. IT'S ALL OF THE APPS THAT WE USE HERE. SO THAT'S ALL ON A SERVER SOMEWHERE. NO ONE HAS ANY REASON TO SEE MY OWN PERSONAL DEVICE. WHATEVER I HAVE THAT'S WORK RELATED IS ON THAT SERVER, AND I TRY TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND I'D RECOMMEND YOU ALL DO THE SAME. AND THERE'S THE THREE OF US. DANIEL, FOR YOUR IS ME OR JASON AND KEVIN AND GABY.
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YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ANY ONE OF US AT ANY TIME. AND YOU KNOW WE'RE HERE. OUR ULTIMATE JOB IS, AS FAR AS THIS PART GOES, IS TO MAKE GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE. YOU KNOW, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON TRYING TO DO THE BEST JOB WE CAN. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M FINISHED OR I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS. ALL RIGHT.THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HAVE ANY
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QUESTIONS COMMENTS ABOUT THE TWO ITEMS, EITHER ONE OF THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. IF NOT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONCERNING THE CONSENT AGENDA. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. FIVE VOTES THAT PASSES. SO REAL QUICK WE WILL HAVE THREE ZONING CASES. YEAH. SO TWO WEEKS WE WILL HAVE A MEETING, TWO WEEKS ON THE THAT'S THE 2020 FIRST. YEAH, I SAW THREE. BACK ON ANY OTHER[REGULAR AGENDA ]
INFORMATION OR BUSINESS WE NEED TO ATTEND TO. WE KEVIN, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I WON'T BE HERE ON THE 21ST. I HAVE TO TRAVEL TO ILLINOIS FOR WORK ON THE 21ST. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. WITH FIVE VOTES, IT PAS* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.