Jun 09, 2026 City Council & Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL TO ORDER THE JUNE 9TH, 2026, CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6 P.M. WE DO ASK IF YOU WERE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SET THAT TO VIBRATE OR TURN IT OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU GET A CALL YOU NEED TO TAKE YOU. PLEASE STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER, PRESENT JUNIOR MAYOR KASON BECK, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVID R DUKE PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN TODD PICKENS, PRESENT COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS INFORMED ME HE WOULD BE UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER PRESENT MAYOR PRO TEM GENOME PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, WHICH I WILL LEAD, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, WHICH WILL BE LED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM. DEAR LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON ALL OF US HERE. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER OUR CITY. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE US WITH WISDOM AS WE TRY TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS THAT WE CAN. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE PLACED US INTO A POSITION TO MAKE THEM. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, KEEP ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE SAFE, WHO TAKE SUCH GREAT CARE OF US, AND WHO DISPLAY SUCH COURAGE AND SACRIFICE ON A DAILY BASIS.

LORD, WE ALSO PRAY FOR ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE IN OUR MILITARY. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BRING THEM ALL HOME SAFELY TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON JESUS. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR. TEXAS. FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS ONE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. PLEASE BE SEATED. WE'RE GETTING IN IT. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR

[PR1. Junior Mayor for the Day - Kacen Beck. ]

SO AS YOU COULD TELL FROM OUR ROLL CALL THIS EVENING, WE DO HAVE OUR JUNIOR MAYOR FOR THE DAY PRESENT WITH US. AND LET'S HEAR IT FOR KASON BECK. SO HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE QUITE A BIT WITH HIS SUPPORT OR FAMILY SUPPORT AT OUR BOOTS IN BARBECUE EVENT THAT IS PUT ON BY WYLIE ISD'S EDUCATION FOUNDATION AS A WAY THAT THEY RAISE MONEY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THEIR TEACHERS, SPECIFICALLY TO HELP THEM WITH GRANTS FOR MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ENHANCE LEARNING IN THE CLASSROOM WHILE PREVENTING IT FROM COMING FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS. SO HE WILL CONTINUE. I BELIEVE HE STILL HAS A COUPLE OF THINGS TO EXPERIENCE. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY, I THOUGHT SO, BUT BEFORE CLASSES LET OUT, I DID GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO VISIT HIM AT SCHOOL OVER AT WHITT ELEMENTARY, AND HE GOT TO BE MAYOR FOR THE DAY THERE AT SCHOOL. AND I GOT TO FIELD QUESTIONS FROM HIM, FROM KASON AND ALL OF HIS CLASSMATES. SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE MORE PERSONAL IN NATURE ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU ENJOY, BUT I'M ALWAYS SURPRISED BY THE LEVEL OF QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT, EVEN FROM THOSE WHO ARE YOUNGER.

WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY OFTEN ARE PAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION, EVEN IF THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND IT. THEY ARE LISTENING TO WHAT THEIR PARENTS AND THE ADULTS SAY AROUND THEM

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CONGRATULATIONS. AND HERE IS THAT CHALLENGE. POINT OF PROMISE. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO WHERE THAT TAPE CROSSES BIG SMILES. RIGHT? THERE YOU GO. SMILE. LOOK AT THAT. ARE YOU READY? FOR. SEE YOUR MAYOR FOR THE DAY? YOU CAN SAY, HEY, DAD, YOU GOTTA HOLD THIS FOR ME. JUST BE CAREFUL HOW FAR YOU PUSH THAT. OUR SECOND THIS EVENING, WE DID

[PR2. Shining the Wylie Way Students - Term 4. ]

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CONGRATULATIONS. FOR YOU. WE'LL PUT A PICTURE.

[PR3. Presentation and update on the Taste of Wylie and proceeds benefiting 5 Loaves Ministries, Amazing Grace Food Pantry, Wylie Community Christian Care Center, and Hope for the Cities.]

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AND THEN CHRISTINA KELLY DOES A GREAT JOB IN HELPING ORGANIZE AND ALSO MARKET THE EVENT AND, AND GET IT OUT THERE. SO WONDERFUL JOB. AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO, TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JEANNIE AND MY WIFE AND I VOLUNTEER AT AMAZING GRACE FOOD PANTRY, WHERE VOLUNTEERS IN THE COMMUNITY FIGHT HUNGER TOGETHER. THANK YOU. THAT WAS SO NICE.

MICHELLE ACKMAN, ALSO FROM THE FOOD PANTRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. REBECCA ROGERS WITH FIVE LOAVES MINISTRIES. KERRI MCMURDY WITH FIVE LOAVES MINISTRIES. RHONDA AMOS WITH THE CITY OF WYLIE. CHRISTINA KELLY, MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH CITY OF WYLIE. SO IN PREPARATION FOR HER PROVIDING THE CHECK, CRAIG, IF YOU WANT TO JOIN ME OVER HERE AND OUR JUNIOR MAYOR, JASON, IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER HERE, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL TO TO ALL CONGREGATE ON THAT SIDE FOR ME. SO THAT WAY SHE CAN PRESENT IT TO EVERYONE AT ONCE HERE. AND THEN. DO YOU WANT ME TO HOLD THIS FOR YOU OR DO YOU GOT IT? ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

I'M SO EXCITED TO HAVE THIS PRIVILEGE. WHAT Y'ALL DO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. YOU PROVIDE A NEED WHERE THERE IS ONE, YOU PROVIDE COMFORT, FOOD AND HOPE. AND MY HOPE TODAY IS THAT YOU CAN SEE AND FEEL AND KNOW THAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS BEHIND YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DO. IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS CHECK FOR $46,072. CONGRATULATIONS! SO I'M GOING TO HAVE EVERYONE GATHER TOGETHER. YOU CAN HEAR CRAIG OVER MY SHOULDER.

EVERYONE HAS TO COME TOGETHER FOR A GROUP PHOTO. OH, AND CARMEN HAS A CAMERA, SO SHE GETS TO PLAY CRAIG. I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT. AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, LAST YEAR WHERE WE RAISED $24,000 FOR THE SAME EVENT. SO THAT TELLS YOU THE WORK THAT WAS PUT IN THIS YEAR TO REALLY TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. YEAH. CAME ON A NICE PICTURE RIGHT HERE, JUST RIGHT IN FRONT.

YOU DO IT BACKWARDS. THAT'S COOL. HEY, AUDREY AND JOHN, STAY UP HERE.

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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT LIVE HERE AND THAT SERVE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, TALKING ABOUT

[PR4. American Legion Hale-Combest Post 315 wishes to recognize Darren E. James, Lt Col (Retired) USAF, and Charles Brooks McFarland Jr., Col (Retired) USAF. ]

WYLIE EAST, THE AIR FORCE IS TWISTED MY ARM A LITTLE BIT, AND I'M GOING TO GO STAND UP A BRAND NEW UNIT AT COMMUNITY HIGH SCHOOL. SO. I WANT YOU ALL TO REALIZE THEY WORK WITH STUDENTS IN HIGH SCHOOL. NOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT DO Y'ALL KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HURT FERAL CATS AND EVERYTHING? THESE TWO PEOPLE, THESE TWO GENTLEMEN, HAVE DONE SUCH AN AWESOME JOB, AND WE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

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THANK YOU. AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, THIS EVENING WOULD LIKE

[PR5. Juneteenth 2026. ]

THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY JUST FOR HER HARD WORK AND ALL SHE DO TO GET ALL OF THESE EVENTS UP AND GOING. AND WE JUST WANT TO LET HER KNOW THAT HER HARD WORK IS NOT UNNOTICED BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT. AND SHE'S REALLY THE REASON WHY A LOT OF THESE EVENTS JUST GO OFF WITHOUT A WITHOUT WITH A HITCH. SO WITHOUT A HITCH. OTHER THAN THAT, OUR CREW IS USUALLY HERE PRETTY DEEP. WE USUALLY TAKE UP ALL OF THIS SPACE, BUT THEY ARE MEETING TONIGHT AND GOING TO THE PARK JUST TO DO THE FINAL WALKTHROUGHS FOR THIS EVENT. AND SO I'M THE LUCKY ONE THAT GETS TO COME AND INVITE YOU ALL. SO PLEASE COME OUT. IT IS AN EVENT FOR EVERYONE. DON'T THINK IT'S JUST FOR THEM OR FOR US OR FOR YEAH, IT'S FOR EVERYONE. IF YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM AND YOU, YOU BELIEVE IN COMING TOGETHER AND YOU, YOU BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY, THEN I WANT TO SEE YOU THERE. AND I WANT TO SEE YOU HAVING FUN. AND I WANT TO SEE YOU INTERACT AND MEETING SOMEONE NEW. SO. DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL AGAIN THIS YEAR. WHEREAS ON JANUARY 1ST, 1863, PRESIDENT LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, DECLARING THAT ALL PERSONS HELD AS SLAVES WITHIN ANY STATE OR DESIGNATED PART OF A STATE, THE PEOPLE WHEREOF SHALL THEN BE IN REBELLION AGAINST THE UNITED STATES SHALL BE THEN THENCEFORWARD AND FOREVER FREE. AND WHEREAS, ON JUNE 19TH, 1865, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AFTER PRESIDENT LINCOLN'S EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, UNION SOLDIERS LED BY MAJOR GENERAL GORDON GRANGER, LANDED AT GALVESTON, TEXAS, WITH NEWS THAT THE CIVIL WAR WAS OVER AND THAT THE ENSLAVED WERE NOW FREE. AND WHEREAS THE CELEBRATION OF THE END OF SLAVERY, WHICH BECAME KNOWN AS JUNETEENTH, IS THE OLDEST KNOWN PUBLIC CELEBRATION OF THE END OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH COMMEMORATES AFRICAN AMERICAN FREEDOM AND CELEBRATES THE MANY SUCCESSES GAINED THROUGH GREATER OPPORTUNITY AND THE

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AND SO THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS FOR THE EVENING. BEFORE WE MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA, WE WILL RELEASE OUR JUNIOR MAYOR FROM HIS DUTIES. UNLESS MOM AND DAD WOULD LIKE TO STAY FOR THE NEXT THREE HOURS. YEAH. SO WE'LL VERY QUICKLY JUST IF THEY WISH TO TAKE ANY PICTURES HERE, AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE REST OF OUR AGENDA.

SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD IN OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING TO OUR COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE ASK YOU COMPLETE A FORM IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR SIX MINUTES. IF OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP. WE REMIND EVERYONE THAT UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, COUNCIL IS NOT ALLOWED TO DELIBERATE, CONVERSE OR TAKE ACTION ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. MISS STORM, HAVE WE HAD ANY FORMS TURNED IN THIS EVENING?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AND SHE IS HERE AS PART OF C ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. JUST SO IF ANYONE IS WONDERING, COUNCILMAN PICKENS ALSO SERVES ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD, SO HE HAS SOME INSIGHT THERE.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHERS, I'D BE OPEN TO A MOTION. MAYOR PRO TEM, I DO FEEL BAD FOR HER THAT SHE HAD TO WORK WITH COUNCILMAN PICKENS. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AS WELL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN PICKENS, I SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WITH COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS ABSENT THIS

[1. Interview applicants for Board of Review vacancies for a term to begin July 1, 2026 and end June 30, 2028. ]

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SO OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL, THIS IS OPEN FOR EVERYONE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. HASSAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH A AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU HANDLED A DIFFICULT POSITION THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION AND HOW YOU GATHERED THE FACTS? ONE OF THE ROLES IN THIS JOB, IN THIS BOARD IS JUDGING ONE OF US, HOPEFULLY NEVER, BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO JUDGE ONE OF US ABOUT A DECISION THAT WE'VE MADE, OR WE MAY HAVE AFFECTED OTHER THINGS. SO CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH IN YOUR PROFESSION AS A BROKER? I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE BEEN IN DIFFICULT POSITION WITH ONE OF YOUR AGENTS THAT MAY HAVE NOT BEEN UPFRONT OR WAYS OF EXPLAINING THINGS. HOW DID YOU MAKE A DECISION? WHAT FACTS DID YOU LOOK AT, AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT WENT INTO YOUR DECISION MAKING? FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, THE IF I MAKE MY DECISION, SO I WILL GO BUY BOOKS, YOU KNOW, AND IF ANYTHING, I MEAN, I SEE IT'S NOT ACCORDING TO LAW OR ACCORDING TO THE CITY ORDINANCE. SO DEFINITELY I WILL GO AGAINST THAT PROPOSITION. YEAH. OKAY.

CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE MADE A DECISION ON ALREADY VERSUS WHAT YOU WOULD DO ON THE CURRENT ROLE? LIKE, WHAT IS SOME POSITION OR DIFFICULT ABOUT HOW YOU HANDLED THAT, THAT ISSUE BY NOT MENTIONING NAMES, NOT MENTIONING CIRCUMSTANCES, JUST MENTIONING KIND OF HOW YOU CAME UP TO THAT DECISION. CAN YOU REPEAT? BECAUSE I THINK SO I HAVE I CAN LISTEN PROPERLY. YEAH. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A DECISION THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE THAT HOW DID YOU COME OUT TO GATHERING THOSE FACTS, AND WHAT DID YOU BASE THEM ON? OH, IF WATER YOU HAVE MADE A DECISION. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, IF I MAKE ANY DECISION BEFORE I KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION AND I DON'T THINK SO, I WILL MAKE ANY DECISION BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE ALL FACTS AND FIGURES. YEAH. OKAY.

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UNLESS IF I'M SICK OR I'M OUT OF TOWN. YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE BECAUSE I HAVE A I'M MUCH FLEXIBILITY. OKAY. NOW AND AGAIN, WE, WE DON'T EXPECT SOMEONE TO BE AVAILABLE 365 BUT IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE POSITIONS OR THINGS WHERE THEY KNOW THAT THEY ARE TRAVELING FOR WORK EVERY WEEK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BE AVAILABLE WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME. IF YOU'RE GONE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY FOR WEEKS, A MONTH. SO THAT'S I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT A SET TIME THAT YOU CAN PLAN IN ADVANCE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, COUNCIL, DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN PICKENS? THANK YOU. MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU OWN YOUR OWN BROKERAGE. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU MANAGE? YES. CAN YOU REPEAT, PLEASE? HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU MANAGE? I HAVE A ALMOST LIKE A 13 AGENTS THEY ARE WORKING WITH UNDER MY SUPERVISION. YEAH. OKAY. YOU EVER HAD TO TERMINATE SOMEONE? HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO TERMINATE SOMEONE? NO, ACTUALLY. THEY ARE NOT MY EMPLOYEE. THAT'S INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.

SO, I MEAN, IF THEY LIKE TO DO WORK WITH MY BROKERAGE, MOST WELCOME. BUT SOME AGENTS, THEY LEFT DUE TO THEIR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE THEY HAVE, I MEAN, FULL TIME JOBS. AND THEY TOLD ME, I MEAN, WE, WE COULDN'T PAY OUR DUES. I MEAN, THEY ARE LIKE, OF COURSE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO PAY MONTHLY, QUARTERLY AND YEARLY. YEAH. SO THAT ISN'T THEY LEFT MY BROKERAGE. OTHERWISE NOBODY LEFT DUE TO ANY GRIEVANCE OR ANY OTHER REASON. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS APPLICANT? OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, ONE MORE. MAYOR. SORRY, IS YOUR BROKERAGE ESTABLISHED IN WILEY? IS YOUR BROKERAGE ESTABLISHED IN WILEY OR IS IT WILEY? YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE OFFICES IN WILEY? YEAH, ACTUALLY, I WORK FROM HOME. YEAH, I'M FROM HOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. SO I WILL CALL THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL THAT I HAVE LISTED HERE THIS EVENING. AND THAT IS KSENIA. STEPHANIE. STEPAN. KINA. OKAY. I WILL NOW MOVE TO MR. MARK CHANG YEN. OKAY. MARK. BOOTH. GOOD EVENING SIR. GOOD EVENING. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? WELL, HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? GOOD, GOOD. SO AGAIN, I START EVERYONE WITH THE SAME QUESTION.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT INTERESTS YOU IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS MARK BOOTH. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE WILEY SINCE 2019. I ACTUALLY WORK AT RAYTHEON, BEEN THERE FOR 28 YEARS. I'M CURRENTLY A DIRECTOR OF MANUFACTURING ENGINEERING. SO PRETTY INGRAINED IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS BEING HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT I THINK INTERESTS ME THE MOST WAS BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS AND YOU'RE EVALUATING AND YOU'RE BRINGING A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER, IT JUST KIND OF RESONATED WITH ME FROM THAT

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AND SO HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND DO IT FAIRLY IS ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF IT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FAIRNESS IS A QUINTESSENTIAL WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY FROM A REVIEW PERSPECTIVE. SO IT'S KIND OF WHY I GROOVE TO ME.

OKAY, SO I'LL JUMP TO THE, ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS I ASK EVERYONE, JUST ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT YOU WOULD HAVE? NO, SIR. OKAY. SO I WANT TO OPEN IT UP, MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. BOOTH, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. FOR REFERENCE, MY PANEL AND I, WHEN WE DID THE BOARD INTERVIEWS, WE INTERVIEWED MR. BOOTH FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. I BELIEVE HE PUT UP. SO, MR. BOOTH, I ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED THE PRIOR APPLICANT. CAN YOU EXPAND ON, AS A MANAGER? AND MY RECOLLECTION, IT'S. IT'S GOOD. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MANAGED MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE UNDER YOUR SUPERVISION. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH A DECISION WHEN YOU HAD TO MAKE A TOUGH DECISION ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL AND SOME OF THE THOUGHT PROCESSES, SOME OF THE FACTS THAT YOU TOOK INTO THAT DECISION MAKING? OH, YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. SO OUR OUR ORGANIZATION HAS GONE THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGING MOST RECENTLY. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS COMBINING BUSINESS UNITS INTO SOMEBODY WHO WAS LEADING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. THE DECISIONS THAT COME ALONG WITH, HEY, IF I'M PULLING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHERE FOLKS GO, HOW THEY FIT IN, WHO YOU KEEP, WHO YOU DON'T KEEP POTENTIALLY, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT I HAD TO GO DO WAS GATHER A WHOLE BUNCH OF DATA AROUND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, THE SKILLS, WHAT PEOPLE HAVE, WHAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE, AND THEN USING THAT DATA, GO THROUGH AND TRY TO FORMULATE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO GO IN AND GO, OKAY, HOW DO I TAKE 1000 PERSON ORGANIZATION AND FIT IT INTO AN 800 PERSON ORGANIZATION KIND OF BOX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AND, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO GO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS TO DO. BUT DOING IT FROM A PLACE OF RESPECT, RIGHT? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MATTERS THE MOST TO ME IN THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS BECAUSE, RIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO GO BE GREAT, RIGHT? AND WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS, INHERENTLY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME REALLY TOUGH DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. AND SO YOU USE THAT DATA, YOU TAKE THE FACTS, YOU MAKE THE BEST DECISION YOU CAN, AND YOU DO IT RESPECTFULLY, HONESTLY, AND OPENLY AND TRANSPARENTLY. AND THEN YOU JUST GO OFF AND HELP THESE PEOPLE FIGURE THAT, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT YOU GOT TO GO DO AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. THANK YOU, MR. BOOTH. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PICKENS, THANK YOU.

MAYOR, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. HEY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN YOU AND I HAVE BEEN COLLEAGUES FOR A LONG TIME AT AT SAME PLACE. AND I KNOW THAT YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THE IN-PERSON SECTION MEETING, ETHICS TRAINING THAT WE ALL WENT THROUGH. AND BEFORE THEY BECOME ONLINE. AND, AND, AND SO THE THING THAT I CAN MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT YOU JUST FROM KNOWING YOUR WORK EXPERIENCE AND WHAT WE ARE PUT THROUGH IN TRAINING EVERY YEAR WITH ETHICS, THAT I THINK IT PLAYS WELL INTO THE. YOUR APPLICATION IN FOR THIS BOARD OF REVIEW REVIEW BOARD, SINCE I KNOW THE TRAINING THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED AT RAYTHEON, I'VE RECEIVED IT AS WELL. AND SO I RESPECT THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNED IN YOUR MANAGEMENT POSITION AND ALSO THROUGH THE TRAINING THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED THROUGH RAYTHEON, THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF WELL TO THIS POSITION? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GLEANED FROM THE TIME OF LEADING PEOPLE AND CONNECTING WITH PEOPLE IS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ESSENCE OF WHAT MATTERS THE MOST IS THAT CONNECTION, AND BEING ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH THIS PERSON AND HAVE AN OPEN AND HONEST CONVERSATION AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND UTILIZING THAT. WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND LOOKING AT A SITUATION. BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT IT AS IT'S THIS NO NAME OR NO FACE DECISION I HAVE TO GO MAKE, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T ALWAYS BODE VERY WELL FOR HOW FOLKS ARE RESPECTED, HOW TRANSPARENT IT IS, HOW IT WORKS ITSELF OUT. RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, TAKING A MOMENT TO STOP AND GO, THERE'S SOMEBODY I'M TALKING TO, THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE DECISION THAT I NEED TO GO MAKE POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY. AND AS A RESULT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WALK IN THEIR SHOES A LITTLE BIT AND UNDERSTAND, HOW WOULD I BEST MAKE THIS DECISION THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THESE PEOPLE THE RIGHT WAY? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S ALL I GOT, RIGHT? THAT'S ALL WE

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I KNOW IT WAS DONE THE RIGHT WAY, AND I CAN JUST GRUMBLE ALL THE WAY HOME AND GO, OH, THEY MADE THE RIGHT DECISION. BUT I'M ANGRY, RIGHT? SO IF YOU COULD I ASK YOU TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF MATH IN YOUR HEAD? ALL RIGHT. GO BACK OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN A MANAGER AND TALLY UP THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE MANAGED IN YOUR CAREER IN TOTAL. YEAH. GOSH, I'M GONNA SAY PROBABLY 12, 1300. I HAVE 450 NOW, AND MY LAST ORGANIZATION WAS ABOUT 232 40.

WHEN I WAS STILL IN TUCSON, I HAD TWO ORGANIZATIONS OF OVER 150. SO SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1200 AND 1500, I WOULD THINK I MIGHT BE A LITTLE LOW THOUGH. YEAH. THE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IN THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE, SITUATIONS WILL ARISE. YOU JUST CAN'T AVOID IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO I KNEW THAT, BUT I WANTED MY COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL, THAT YOU'VE JUST HAD THE EXPERIENCE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MANAGE THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON MY APPLICATION OR NOT, I ACTUALLY GOT A PHD IN ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND LEADERSHIP AND SO DID THAT. THAT WAS KIND OF MY APPARENTLY COVID DIDN'T KEEP ME BUSY ENOUGH. AND, BUT I BRING THAT TO THE TABLE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE ASPECTS OF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GONE AND DONE AS A LEADER AND I'VE GROWN MY, YOU KNOW, CAPABILITIES AND THAT SORT OF THING, BECAUSE I'M NOT JUST A DOUBLE E DUDE FROM A AND M NOW I'M UNDERSTANDING HOW ORGANIZATIONS WORK, HOW TO DEVELOP THEM, HOW TO GROW AND DEVELOP LEADERS AND PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD. SO. I THOUGHT IT BODE WELL FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS THE BOARD OF REVIEW GOES. SO YEAH, ONE OTHER QUESTION. TELL ME YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ONE. EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE. IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I TEACH IT SOMETIMES AT WORK. AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS ABOUT IT IS I'VE SAT IN THAT CLASS IS BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND CERTAIN ASPECTS OF WHO WE ARE, RIGHT? SO MY SELF-AWARENESS, MY SOCIAL AWARENESS, MY SELF MANAGEMENT, AND THEN HOW I DEAL WITH RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE FOUR KEY TENETS OF WHAT EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE IS REALLY ABOUT, RIGHT? MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THE ONE WHERE WE STRUGGLE THE MOST IS AWARENESS, RIGHT? WE DON'T ALWAYS WE'RE NOT ALWAYS AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON WITH US AND AROUND US. AND SO SOMETIMES THAT GETS US IN TROUBLE. I DON'T MEAN YOU MIGHT SAY SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY THAT TAKES A PARTICULAR WAY. OR YOU LOOK AT SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, HE CAN'T STAND ME OR THIS OR THIS OR THIS. AND SO STOPPING FOR A MINUTE AND REALIZING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW IT PLAYS INTO YOU. AND SO THE BLENDING OF THOSE FOUR, I THINK, IS WHAT MAKES US AS EMOTIONALLY INTELLIGENT AND RICH AS WE CAN WHEN WE GO OFF AND DO THESE THINGS. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT IT ULTIMATELY BOILS DOWN TO, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I BRING UP WHEN I DO THE CLASS IS I TALK ABOUT WITHIN A TYPICAL DAY, WE HAVE PROBABLY TEN, 15,000 CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY, WHETHER IT'S WALKING BY AND SAYING HELLO, WHETHER IT'S THE PERSON AT WALMART, RIGHT? IF WE MAKE THOSE WAY MORE POSITIVE THAN NEGATIVE THROUGHOUT THE COURSES OF OUR LIVES AND THE COURSES OF OUR INTERACTIONS, IT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH BETTER. AND THE SAME THING IS TRUE WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF THINGS AND WE'RE DECIDING ABOUT STUFF, RIGHT? BEING ABLE TO SIT THERE AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? HI.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. SO MARK, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S GOOD TO BE IN A ROOM WITH YOU AGAIN. YOU AS WELL. GOOD TO SEE YOU. HEY, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT, YOU CAN ALWAYS BE A CITY MANAGER. WHEN YOU GET TIRED OF BEING AN ENGINEER, YOU OUGHT TO BE A CITY MANAGER. AND YOU'RE CURSED, MAN. YOU KNOW, YOU WAKE UP AT THREE AND YOU WONDER WHY THE LIGHT COMES ON AND IT DOESN'T STOP UNTIL THEY BURY ME.

PROBABLY. SO I'M NOT TAKING THE EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE CLASS. WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, I DID A COURSE FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON THIS TOO. I MAY GET VERY EMOTIONAL DURING THAT CLASS. NOW, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU WANT ME TO COME DO IT. I'LL BE GLAD TO DO IT FOR THE CITY FOR FREE. NO CHARGE. YOU GOT IN CRYING ALREADY. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR COMING THIS EVENING AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO SERVE. ABSOLUTELY. AND OH, I WILL ASK. YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO COME IN ON AN AD HOC BASIS AS NEEDED? IF IF A NEED WAS TO ARISE? ABSOLUTELY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STAND FOR IS WHEN I SIGN UP TO DO SOMETHING, I DO IT RIGHT. SO WE OBVIOUSLY HOPE THE BOARD DOESN'T MEET, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS REASONABLY QUICK HEARING SO THAT RESULTS CAN BE OBTAINED, SO TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

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OKAY. MAN, I, I GOT SMOKED. YEAH, I WON'T ARGUE. I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT TO FOLLOW MR. BROOKS EITHER BOOTH EITHER, BUT I'LL ASK THAT YOU START OUT THE SAME WAY THAT HE DID AND MR. HASSAN AS WELL. JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU AND WHY YOU'RE LOOKING TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF REVIEW. WELL, I MOVED TO WILEY IN 2020 AT THE END OF COVID, AND I CAME FROM WACO. SO I HAD TO COME BACK TO TEXAS. AND THE BIGGEST THING IS I SAID, I SERVED ON CITY IN AURORA, ILLINOIS, FOR 13 YEARS. THE CITY AND SEEING THE THINGS THAT GO ON WITH THE CITY AND DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGH, BUT YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA COMMIT, GOTTA LOOK BOARDS AND STREETS AND CURBS AND PARKS AND REMOVE THIS HOUSE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT HAS TO GO ON AND WANTING TO CONTINUE. YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING OLDER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AS GOOD AS I HAD WHEN I GREW UP. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. AND OBVIOUSLY BOARD OF REVIEW, AS I'VE MENTIONED, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITH ANYONE THAT YOU MIGHT BE CALLED TO HAVE TO REVIEW THEIR ACTIONS. I LIKE ALL Y'ALL. WELL, I ASK BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST COUNCIL. THE BOARD OF REVIEW ALSO OVERSEES OTHER APPOINTED POSITIONS. I BELIEVE MOST ANY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT. DO YOU FEEL YOU WOULD BE ABLE THEN TO BE AN IMPARTIAL JUDGE IF CALLED UPON? IF SOME IF THERE WERE TO BE A COMPLAINT THAT THE ATTORNEY REFERRED TO THE BOARD OF REVIEW. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF IT. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FAIR AND ABOVE BOARD ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I, I THINK I SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHEN I SAY IF WE EVER FOUND OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ASK FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN FOR SOMEONE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES. SO AND NO ISSUES WITH IT BEING AN AD HOC BOARD WHERE YOU WOULD GET CALLED AND WE WOULD BE SETTING A DATE. AT THAT TIME, I WORKED FOR AS A CHIEF ENGINEER AT MARRIOTT FOR 13 YEARS, AND IT'S LIKE THEY CALL YOU UP AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING SATURDAY, YOU ANSWER THE PHONE.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE CALLING YOU AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, SO WE WON'T BE QUITE THAT DEMANDING. BUT APPRECIATE THAT AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AVAILABLE TO SERVE. AND HERE THIS EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU HAVE ANY. I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF THERE'S KIND OF BEEN A PATTERN. SO MAYOR PRO TEM MISTER PETE, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANKS FOR SERVING. I KNOW LUCKILY, AND THANK GOD YOU WERE NOT CALLED IN TO SERVE AND HAVE A MEETING. IT WAS A BUSY YEAR, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE INTEND TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. MAYOR, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING THE INTERVIEW LAST TIME WITH PETE, AND I KNOW WHERE HE STANDS AND HOW HE STANDS ABOUT.

SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH HIS NOMINATION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SERVING. THANK YOU.

OKAY. COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. DOESN'T APPEAR. I WILL ASK THIS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE HAD EXPERIENCE BEFORE SERVING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE YOUR WORK EXPERIENCE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. HAVE YOU EVER ENCOUNTERED A SITUATION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED BEFORE WHERE YOU'VE HAD TO TRY TO BALANCE THINGS WHEN YOU'RE GETTING TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF A STORY, WHETHER THAT WAS OVERSEEING SOMEONE ELSE'S EMPLOYMENT POSITION, OR WHETHER THAT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS COMING DOWN WHERE YOU HAD TO WEIGH THAT CAN.

HAVE YOU HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THAT? YES. AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF EVERY QUESTION.

SO YOU'VE GOT ANSWERS AND PRO AND CON THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EQUALLY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU BEFORE, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I ASKED YOU THAT THOUGH FOR ANYONE WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE THE LAST TIME.

SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS. WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU SIR. AND OUR LAST INDIVIDUAL THIS EVENING WE'LL CALL ROBERT HUNTER. GOOD EVENING GOOD EVENING. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. START OUT THE SAME WAY THAT WE'VE HAD EVERYONE ELSE THAT STARTED OUT. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU AND WHY

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SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND. EXACTLY. YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. DO YOU WANT TO OPEN IT TO MY COLLEAGUES? MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. ROBERT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANKS FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO THE SOCIETY, AS WELL AS WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. AGAIN. YES. IF YOU I'LL ASK THE SAME QUESTION. IF YOU CAN WALK ME THROUGH A DECISION MAKING PROCESS DURING THE TIME, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD TO GATHER FACTS AND YOU HAD TO GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION AND PUT THE DATA TOGETHER ON MAKING A DECISION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT FROM PERSPECTIVE OF FAIR. RIGHT? WOULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT? AND HOW DID YOU COME OUT TO THAT? YEAH, I'VE HAD TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. BEFORE I CAME HERE, I WORKED FOR THE THE MAYOR OF NORTH CHICAGO. I WORKED FIRST, I WORKED FOR THE VETERANS ORGANIZATION FOR 29 YEARS. I WAS INTERIOR DESIGNER FOR REGION FIVE IN CHICAGO. MY RESPONSIBILITIES, THE LARGEST PROJECT THAT I WORKED ON WAS A 270 500 ZERO SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. I DID ALL OF THE INTERIOR DESIGN WORK. I WORKED WITH ELECTRICIANS AND PAINTERS AND ALL OF THOSE LAY PEOPLE THAT HELPED BRING MY PROJECTS TOGETHER. I HAD TO MAKE SOME PRETTY HEAVY DECISIONS. THEN, WORKING WITH PEOPLE THAT KNEW THEIR DISCIPLINES, BUT HAD TO GO ALONG WITH THE THINGS THAT I SPECIFIED FOR THINGS LIKE LIGHTING DESIGN AND AND OTHER THINGS. I ALSO DID THE MONUMENTS IN, IN ILLINOIS. ■I DESIGNED ONE OF THE FIRST WOMEN VETERANS MONUMENT IN CHICAGO

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PUTTING FORTH THE TYPE OF PERSONALITY THAT MADE ME FEEL COMFORTABLE AS THEY WERE TEACHING MY, MY CHILDREN, MY STUDENTS, THAT I'VE HAD TO LET THEM GO. SO I'VE HAD TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND I'M CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DETAILED EXPLANATION. YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. KIND OF TOUCHED ON THE ONE THAT COUNCILMAN PICKENS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, BEING WILLING TO MAKE THOSE. BUT ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THERE, COUNCILMAN PICKENS, NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION OF YOUR HISTORY AND YOUR EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU. ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS EVENING FOR YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. YOU'RE WELCOME AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING WILLING TO SERVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ITEM ONE HAS NO ACTION TO TAKE. HOWEVER, WE WILL THEN MOVE OR NOT. HOWEVER,

[2. Consider, and act upon, appointments to fill the Board of Review vacancies for a term to begin July 1, 2026 and end June 30, 2027/2028]

FOR THE TWO. TWO FOR THE TWO TERMS. RIGHT. AND THEN THE ALTERNATE IS ONE YEAR. THERE'S THREE THREE POSITIONS AVAILABLE. AND CURRENTLY MR. PEAT IS FILLING ONE OF THOSE. HE WAS APPOINTED LAST YEAR FOR A ONE YEAR TERM. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING REPLACING AS THAT WOULD BE A ONE YEAR TERM. AS THAT MEMBER, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH AND HAS NOT COMPLETED ANY DOCUMENTS. OKAY. WELL, I WILL MAYOR PRO TEM YEAH, MAYOR, I'LL PUT MY THREE CANDIDATES UP AND THE ALTERNATE, AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF TAKE IT FROM THERE. I WOULD ASK FOR NOT A MOTION AT THIS TIME, JUST DISCUSSION, JUST A DISCUSSION POINT. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MR. PEAT GETS REAPPOINTED. MR. ROBERT HUNTER GETS APPOINTED TO ONE OF THE OPEN SLOTS, AND MR. MARK BOOTH GETS REAPPOINTED TO ONE OF THE OPEN SPOTS. AND THEN. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MISS BONNIE TINSLEY GETS THE

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MASERATI. MEASURES AND MR. ROBERT HUNTER AND ALTERNATE MISS BONNIE TINSLEY TO A ONE YEAR TERM FOR A BOARD OF REVIEW VACANCY FOR A TERM TO BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2026 AND END JUNE 30TH, 2028, 2027/28. SORRY. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILMAN PICKENS? THANK YOU. MAYOR, I SECOND OKAY, MOTION WITH A SECOND. AS STATED.

COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN, I THINK YOU'RE ALL THREE STILL HERE THIS EVENING FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE AND TO MISS TINSLEY FOR BEING WILLING TO. OH, SHE. YES. SORRY. HIDING IN THE BACK. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE. AND AGAIN, I HOPE, I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY USES FOR YOU, BUT APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP IN WHAT CAN BE A VERY DIFFICULT BOARD. SO THANK YOU ALL. WITH

[3. Consider, and act upon, the recommendations of the 2026 Boards and Commission Council Interview Panel for appointments to the Animal Shelter Advisory Board, Construction Code Board, Historic Review Commission, Library Board, Parks and Recreation Board, Parks and Recreation Facilities Development Corporation Board (4B), Planning and Zoning Commission, Public Arts Advisory Board, Wylie Economic Development Corporation, and the Zoning Board of Adjustments to fill board vacancies for a term to begin July 1, 2026 and end June 30, 2027/28/29.]

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YES, MAYOR. FOR THE HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION FOR SPOT FOUR. WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REAPPOINT MR. TOMMY TODD FOR. FOR NUMBER FIVE, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REAPPOINT MISS ALLISON STOWE FOR NUMBER SIX, WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REPLACE MR. EDWIN COFFEY WITH MISS JENNIFER CLEAVELAND FOR R1. WE. WE RECOMMEND MISS AMANDA SMITH AND FOR R TWO, WE RECOMMEND MISTER DONALD. DENNIS. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. MY MOTION MOTION IS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRANG? I'LL SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WE'LL MOVE TO THE LIBRARY BOARD. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR NUMBER FIVE, MR. BRYAN ORTIZ. WE RECOMMEND THAT HE GETS REAPPOINTED FOR NUMBER SIX. WE RECOMMEND THAT MR. BILLY JOE KANTER GETS APPOINTED FOR SLOT SEVEN. WE RECOMMEND THAT MR. JUSTIN STRAUSS GETS REAPPOINTED FOR R1, MISS JENNIFER WHITES AND FOR R2, MISS CARRIE DUCK. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. IN MY MOTION, MOTION IS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRANG, I WILL SECOND. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES

[4. Consider, and act upon, nominations for a primary and an alternate member to serve on the North Central Texas Council of Governments (NCTCOG) Regional Transportation Council (RTC) of the Dallas/Fort Worth area for the cities of Allen, Rowlett, Sachse, Wylie, Murphy, Lucas, Parker, and Lavon.]

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COUNCILMAN HOOVER I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL SAY, THOUGH, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS WISHING TO STEP IN TO SERVE, INDICATE SO AT THIS TIME. WITH NONE INDICATED, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WOULD NOW BE OPEN TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCLUDE THE COUNCIL POSITIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR PARKS AND REC BOARD 4BI RECOMMEND FOR PLACE THREE COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER FOR PLACE FOUR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER FOR PLACE FIVE. WE RECOMMEND THAT AUSTIN FOSTER REPLACE SIX. MR. RICHARD MILLER FOR R ONE. MR. MATTHEW WILSON AND FOR R TWO MISS JENNIFER FOR R-2 MISS JENNIFER DUFFY. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND MY MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN STRANG WELL SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WE'LL MOVE TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR SLOT ONE. WE RECOMMEND MR. MICHAEL SHIREEN FOR SLOT FOUR. WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REAPPOINT MR. ZIGGY NOAH FOR SLOT FIVE.

WE ARE REPLACING MR. KEITH SURGEONS WITH MR. DANIEL MORONGO AND FOR SLOT SEVEN WE'RE WERE RECOMMENDING REAPPOINTMENT OF MR. GOOCH AND REPLACEMENT. AND WE HAVE REPLACEMENT ONE, MR. MICHAEL MCCROSSAN AND REPLACEMENT TO MR. JOHN BRANDON. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND MY MOTION. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN STRANG, I'LL SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. FOR SLOT FOUR. WE RECOMMEND MR. JOE WALTERS FOR SLOT FIVE. WE RECOMMEND MISS JAMES BELL FOR SLOT SIX, MISS GLORIA SUAREZ FOR SLOT SEVEN, MR. MARY MYSHKIN FOR REPLACEMENT ONE. MR. BRANDON ECKER AND FOR REPLACEMENT TO MISS JANET TUCKER. THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION IN MY MOTION MOTION, AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRANG? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WE'LL MOVE TO THE WILY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR WILY EDC. WE RECOMMEND THAT WE REAPPOINT MR. HAROLD SMITH.

THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. MY MOTION MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRANG? I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THE BOA. WE RECOMMEND FOR SLOT TWO, MISS MARIE GALE FOR SLOT FOUR, MR. BRANDON FROSCH FOR ALTERNATE ONE, MR. STEVE CRATE AND FOR ALTERNATE TWO ONE YEAR TERM. MR. DOUG MOORE THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION AND MY MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN STRANG SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND IS STATED. COUNCIL. CASTOR, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF THOSE WHO WERE APPOINTED. AND AGAIN, IF YOU WERE SEEKING APPOINTMENT OR APPOINTMENT ON A DIFFERENT BOARD, CONSIDER APPLYING AGAIN IN THE FUTURE AS WE ARE. CAN WE HAVE NEW OPENINGS EVERY YEAR TO FILL AND APPRECIATE HAVING SUCH GREAT VOLUNTEERS STEPPING UP TO SERVE? I JUST WANTED TO ALSO THANK EVERYONE WHO SERVED PRIOR TO THIS YEAR THAT GOT A YOU KNOW, THEY GOT REPLACED BECAUSE OF TURNED OUT AND WHATNOT, BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT THAT THEY PUT INTO OUR BOARDS AND OUR CITY. IT'S BECAUSE OF THEM THAT WE SIT OUT HERE AND WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS BECAUSE THEY MAKE OUR JOB EASIER ON THOSE BOARDS AND THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE WITH OUR STAFF. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME AND THEIR EFFORTS. WELL SAID. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR FOURTH ITEM OF THE REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS CONSIDER AND ACT UPON NOMINATIONS FOR A PRIMARY AND AN ALTERNATE MEMBER TO SERVE ON THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. NCTCOG REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. RTC OF THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA FOR THE CITIES OF ALLEN, ROWLETT, SAXY, WYLIE, MURPHY, LUCAS,

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WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRANG? I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING AS OUR FIRST WORK SESSION IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW. I KNOW THAT WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES, SO I'LL INVITE YOU TO COME SET UP, BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE US A QUICK COUPLE MINUTE BREAK HERE.

WITH THAT, I WILL GAVEL US BACK INTO SESSION. WE WERE WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR REGULAR AGENDA

[WS1. Wylie Public Works and Engineering Department overview. ]

FIRST PRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S GOING WITH THIS. NO. I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE Y'ALL THE OVERVIEW ON PUBLIC WORKS AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. LIKE YOU MAYOR SAID, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ME GOING THROUGH THE SLIDES, PLEASE JUST STOP ME. AND I CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, STOP AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. PUBLIC WORKS IS SIX DIVISIONS.

ADMINISTRATIONS, STREETS, DEPARTMENT, FLEET SERVICES, THE WATER DIVISION, WASTEWATER

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THOSE 2100 WAS CONSIST OF BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND TOWN. WE GOT A LOT OF THOSE CALLS, YOU KNOW, WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHY TRAFFIC IS BACKED UP.

101,171 OF THOSE WERE REQUESTS EITHER IF IT WAS A WATER CALL, A WASTEWATER CALL OR A STREET CALL, FLEET DEPARTMENT. IN 2025, WE DID 663 OIL CHANGES, 379 TIRE CHANGES, BREAKS. WE DID 166 SERVICE REQUESTS WERE 1469. THOSE IN 2025. THAT'S ALL IN HOUSE. MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE ALL IN HOUSE. ANYTHING MAJOR THAT WE DID BESIDES PD WITH WARRANTY ON THEIR TAHOES, THEY WENT BACK TO THE VENDOR TO TO GET THOSE ISSUES FIXED. WATER. OUR WATER MAINS DIDN'T CHANGE.

STILL 190 SINCE 2023. FIRE HYDRANTS. Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHY IN 2024, WE HAD 2448 FIRE HYDRANTS IN 2025 DECREASED 2139. THAT 2024 NUMBERS. COMPARED TO 2025. WE DID A DEEP DIVE IN OUR GIS MARKINGS FOR WATER LINES, FIRE HYDRANTS, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDING 2024 EAST FORK AND WILEY NORTHEAST FIRE HYDRANTS. SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS WHY IN 2025, IT DECREASED BECAUSE WE WAS BETTER. WE WAS BETTER IDENTIFYING OUR OWN FIRE HYDRANTS. SO THAT IS WHY THAT NUMBER DECREASED IT. THE DAILY PUMPING 2024 IS 5.4 IN 2025 IS 4.9. THAT NUMBER DECREASED BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT SOME OF THE WATER WAS DRAINING INTO SOME OF OUR STORM SEWER. INSTEAD OF RISING TO THE SURFACE. SO WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER DECREASED TO 4.9 WASTEWATER. IT WAS STILL PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. MILEAGE WENT UP A LITTLE BIT FOR THE SEWER MAINS STREETS. I'M I'M GONNA GET YOU A DEEP DIVE INTO STREETS ON A LATER SIDES LATER SLIDE. BUT THE NUMBERS, THE MILEAGE DIDN'T MOVE SIGNIFICANTLY. SIGNALS. WE ADDED THREE NEW SIGNALS. THAT'S AT MCCRORY AND HENSLEY, WOODBRIDGE AND HENSLEY AND CREEK CROSSING AND SAXY ROAD SCHOOL ZONES NUMBER. SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS THAT WENT UP WAS BY THREE. THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE NEW SCHOOL, KRAMER LANE. SIDEWALKS. I'M GONNA DO A DEEP DIVE INTO SIDEWALKS IN A LATER SLIDE. ALSO, STREETS AND ALLEYS 2025. YOU DON'T SEE A NUMBER UP THERE IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE WE DIDN'T GET A BOND. WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS TO FUND SOME ROADWAYS. WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF SOME. EXCUSE ME, WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF SOME ROAD BUCKLES. BUT IN 2025, WE WERE ON OUR LAST PCI PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT. SO WE FINALLY GOT THOSE BACK A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. SO WE PRETTY MUCH WE CAN GO OFF THE PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT FOR ROADWAYS THAT NEED MAJOR RECONSTRUCTION.

MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. A COUPLE I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER. AND OBVIOUSLY I'LL MENTION HERE SINCE WE'RE IN THE BUDGET SESSION ON THIS ONE, BUT WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT A PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON BOND COMMITTEE. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATION ORGANIZATIONAL

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SO PD WAS HAVING SOME ISSUE WITH SOME BRAKES SQUEALING. SO WHAT WE DID WE REPLACED ALL OF THE BRAKES THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING. SO THAT WHY THAT IS WHY THE BRAKES ARE AT 166 NOW.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST BRAKES. THAT'S BRAKES AND ROTORS AS WELL. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN PICKENS? THANK YOU MAYOR. YEAH, I DID ONE QUESTION ON SEWER LATERAL REPAIRS. AND I ASSUME THAT'S THE LATERALS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE MAIN THAT'S IN THE STREET. YES, SIR. OKAY. JUST PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. THEY CAME AND DID MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, LITTLE ROBOT SENT THE ROBOT DOWN AND TOOK PICTURES AND STUFF. SO THERE WERE THREE REPAIRS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT INSPECTION, JUST WITH ALMOST WITHIN SIGHT OF MY HOUSE. SO I ASSUME THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN NORMAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DID YOU HAVE THREE? IS THAT RIGHT? YES IT IS.

OKAY, BUT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE TYPICAL REASON FOR THOSE REPAIRS FOR THOSE REPAIRS ON THE LATERALS. SO IT COULD BE A BREAK IN THE LATERAL ROOTS IN THE LATERALS CLOGGED UP. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST CLOGGED UP. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THE THE THING THAT I DID NOTICE IS THAT THE REPAIRS WERE DONE PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THE INSPECTION. GUYS WERE THERE.

THE THING THAT CONCERNED ME WAS THAT IT WAS UP TO A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS TO GET THE SIDEWALKS REPORT. YES, SIR. AND IS THAT FALLING INTO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW ME A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT SIDEWALKS, OR DO THEY GET A GET A MOVED UP IN THE LINE SINCE THE CITY'S COME IN AND TAKEN THEIR SIDEWALKS AWAY? SO YES AND NO. SO ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE, WHEN THEY GO OUT AND THEY HAVE TO DO A REPAIR, THEY HAVE TO REPLACE PANELS. WHAT THEY TYPICALLY DO, THEY PROBABLY REPLACE LIKE, YOU KNOW, 1 OR 2 PANELS. BUT WHAT THEY DO, THEY TRY TO SAVE UP AS MUCH REPAIRS OF SIDEWALKS THAT THEY TAKEN OUT AND THEN BUNDLING UP TOGETHER AND PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER. OKAY. SO THEY'RE WAITING FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER. YES, SIR. AND THEY CAN EMPTY A CONCRETE TRUCK ON ALL THE. CORRECT. YES, SIR. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY CHARGE US A LOT MORE WHEN IT COMES TO US TO GETTING SMALL LOADS OF CONCRETE.

SO TWO, THREE LOADS IS THE MAX THAT WE CAN GET FOR BEFORE WE GET HIT FOR A SMALL LITTLE FEE.

SO ANYTHING DOWN? YEAH. YOU SATISFY THAT ANSWER. THANKS. YES, SIR. OUR FOCUS AREAS IS

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OUR GOAL IS TO DO 6000FT A YEAR. THE YEARLY COST IS 444,876. THAT'S THAT'S EVERYTHING INCLUDED MATERIALS, EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO DO A SIDEWALK. IF WE DON'T CONTRACTOR, WE'LL LEAD THEM UP TO DOING 2500FT■!S, LINEAR FEET WITH $175,775 IN-HOUSE, 3500 WITH $247, 270 247,381. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WITH A TOTAL OF 423,156. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I'M READING CORRECTLY, IN 2025, THE NUMBER OF THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT FROM CONTRACTORS IN-HOUSE IS $70. IT'S PRACTICALLY THE SAME $0.20 MORE. CORRECT. FROM THE IN-HOUSE PERSPECTIVE, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES AS WELL, OR IS THAT JUST MATERIALS AND LABOR WITHOUT LABOR JUST MATERIAL? SO THAT SO FOR US IN-HOUSE, THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING. WE ALREADY HAVE THE GUYS. SO FOR CONTRACTOR, THAT'S HOW MUCH FOR LABOR COST FOR MATERIALS, CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. AND THAT THAT INCLUDES OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMAN PERKINS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THAT. DOES THAT COST ALSO INCLUDE THE OVERHEAD OF THE EMPLOYEE, NOT JUST THE LABOR RATE? DOES IT INCLUDE HEALTH INSURANCE 401 MATCH. SO ALL THE OVERHEAD OF THAT EMPLOYEE IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES. GO AHEAD. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S OKAY. OUR FLEET, LIKE I SAID, OUR FLEET IS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE GROWING.

WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE IN-HOUSE. WE'RE DOING OVER 250 PLUS PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES. IN-HOUSE REPAIRS IS DOWN LIKE ONE DAY OR LESS VERSUS GOING TO VENDORS. JUST TO ELABORATE ON, ON THE VENDORS, IT'S TAKEN US ALMOST SOMETIMES A DAY JUST TO GET A STATE INSPECTION AT SOME OF THESE VENDORS. AND IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE A PLUG IN, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR GET YOUR INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO GET STATE INSPECTION. BUT SOME VENDORS, YOU KNOW, TAKING A TIME, NOT MAKING US A PRIMARY

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LOOKING AHEAD IN STATE INSPECTIONS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES ABOUT DOING OUR OWN STATE INSPECTIONS IN-HOUSE. AND HE SAID, WE CAN DO IT. SO I REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER CITY EMPLOYEE, AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD JUST BOUGHT A PIECE STATE INSPECTION MACHINE BEFORE HE LEFT ANOTHER HIS HIS LAST EMPLOYMENT. SO HE GAVE ME THE INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO, TO GET TO, TO PURCHASE THE MACHINE.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MACHINE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR A DPS OFFICER TO COME AND DO THE INSPECTIONS AND MAKE SURE THE EQUIPMENT IS WORKING CORRECTLY. ONCE WE GET THAT, ONCE WE GET THE THE SYSTEM ID NUMBER, MY GUYS ARE GOING TO GO AND GET A, A CERTIFICATION TO START DOING STATE INSPECTION, WHICH IS JUST A DAY. SO I'M LOOKING I'M HOPING FOR THE END OF THIS MONTH TO EARLY NEXT MONTH TO START DOING STATE INSPECTION IN-HOUSE. SO, BUT ALSO THESE GUYS, THEY ALSO ARE CERTIFIED FOR DOING AIR CONDITIONING AC UNIT. SO THAT WAS A PLUS FOR US. THEY ALL CERTIFIED. GO DOWN TO THE VENDOR COST. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S $94,000 JUST FOR OIL CHANGES WHEN IT COMES TO VENDOR VERSUS US DOING IT IN-HOUSE, 53,000 SAVING $41,000 AND 769. SO TIRE REPLACEMENT, THAT'S JUST LABOR ONLY THAT'S NOT INCLUDED TIRES. THAT'S JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, US. THAT'S US SUPPLYING THE TIRES. AND THEN ALSO FOR THE VENDOR TO DO THE, THE INSTALLATION BRAKES, BRAKES AND ROTORS. SAME THING. IT'S JUST THE ONLY LABOR THEY WE SUPPLYING THE BRAKES AND ROTORS $94,000 JUST FOR THE VENDOR.

YEAH, IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CRAZY NUMBER. BUT THE SAVINGS WE SAVED 126,000 $126,846. JUST DOING THAT IN-HOUSE NOW. SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR US. AND THESE GUYS, THEY'RE DOING A HECK OF A JOB GETTING THESE VEHICLES OUT WHEN THEY CAN. OUR DOWNTIME IS FOUR HOURS MAX.

JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO DO IT IN-HOUSE. SO IT'S PRETTY GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL SAY YOU MENTIONED IT SAYS ON THERE ROOM TO GROW, ROOM TO GROW. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO COVER LATER? OR I CAN COVER IT RIGHT NOW, BUT YES, ROOM TO GROW JUST FOR THE FUTURE. LOOKING TO GROW. TO GET. 1 OR 2 GUYS FOR THE FLEET DEPARTMENT. BUT WE CAN TAKE ON MORE. I WOULD LOVE TO BRING EVERYTHING IN-HOUSE IF I CAN. I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD FOR US.

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IT'S A ROUNDABOUT AT BENSON AND COUNTY ROAD RIGHT NOW. THE ONLY MAJOR THING THAT WE ARE WAITING ON FOR THIS PROJECT IS THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. RIGHT NOW, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE JULY 20TH, SO WE JUST WAITING ON THAT TO ARRIVE. EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THE TRAFFIC LIGHT HAS BEEN. HAS BEEN POURED, THE BASES, ALL THAT STUFF. SO WE'RE WAITING ON THE POLES AND MAST OR POLES AND BOX OUT THERE. JUST I'M NOT GOING TO GO. YEAH, WE'RE WAITING ON IT AT THIS TIME. YES SIR. BUT YEAH, AFTER THAT THAT'LL BE FULLY OPEN. SO. STONE ROAD, STONE ROAD, IF, IF Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT STONE ROAD, STONE ROAD, IT NEEDED A GOOD MAKEOVER. ABOUT STONE ROAD.

NEED A GOOD MAKEOVER COMPLETION. SUPPOSED TO BE SUMMER OF 2026. IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW. BEFORE, WE

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WE WAITING ON A WATER LINE TO BE REDESIGNED TO. IT WAS IMPEDING WHERE WE WAS PUTTING THE CULVERTS. SO WE JUST WAITING ON EAST FORK TO DEAL WITH THAT, GET THAT SITUATED BEFORE WE CAN BE BEFORE WE CAN GO BACK AND START COMPLETING. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED AT OUR LAST FACEBOOK UPDATE, BUT THIS WAS AN EAST FORK MISTAKE.

THEY MISREPRESENTED THE LOCATION OF THE WATER LINE BY 11FT, AND THAT IS WHY THIS IS BEING DELAYED. SO FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE WHO MIGHT LISTEN TO THIS OR CHECK IN ON THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, JUST WANT TO CALL OUT WHERE WHAT HAPPENED THERE? THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THEIR OWN WATER LINE WAS TO A VERY LARGE DEGREE. AND SO THAT IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE DELAY IS OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO RIP OUT A WATER LINE AND CUT EVERYONE'S WATER OFF IN THE AREA. SO UNTIL THAT'S DONE, THEY CANNOT GET IN AND FINISH THE INITIAL PAVING AND CULVERT SECTION THERE. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN PLANNING TO MENTION THIS. IT STILL HAS ANOTHER LAYER OF ASPHALT THAT WILL GO DOWN ON TOP OF THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN LAID, WHICH FRANKLY, IS SOMEONE WHO LIVES THERE IS ALREADY MILES BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFOREHAND. BUT IT IS NOT THAT IS NOT THE FINAL SURFACE THAT WE'RE SEEING EITHER. SO FOR ANYONE THAT'S LISTENING, JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE, THAT IT WAS NOT FROM THE CITY OF WYLIE, NOR THE STREETS DEPARTMENT THAT IS TO BLAME OR OUR ENGINEERS ON THIS.

THIS WAS A MISTAKE THEY MADE, AND WE'RE WORKING TO CORRECT IT. AND THERE'S STILL MORE COMING ON THE ROAD. YES. THANK YOU SIR. BUT YES, WE NEED TO FINISH UP BEAVER CREEK AND WE'LL DO SOME PAVING. AND IT'S GOOD TO GO. GOOD TO OPEN UP. WE DID DO SOME SAFETY MEASURES ON THESE CULVERTS. AS YOU CAN SEE SOME GUARDRAILS FOR PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM RUNNING OFF THE ROAD. SO. PARKER ROAD NORTH BALLARD, THEY DID OPEN UP SOME LANES FOR TRAFFIC. SUMMER COMPLETION OF 2026. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ASPHALT ROAD. NOW IT'S FOUR LANES WITH A DIVIDED MEDIAN. A MEDIAN DIVIDE OUTER THE OUTER LOOP. IT CONNECTS PARKER ROAD AND SPRING CREEK PARKWAY. THE BRIDGE, A BRIDGE OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS IS. THIS COMPLETION IS FALL OF 2027.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? SO PROJECTS IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN. THE DOGWOOD BRIGHTWOOD HILLTOP WATER PROJECT. IT WAS 100%. AND IT'S 100% COMPLETE. DESIGN IN 2027 WILL BE 100% COMPLETE IN 2027. WE ACTUALLY ADDED TWO MORE ROWS FOR THE WATER LINE TO BE REPLACED. THAT IS. AT HILLTOP. LIKE I SAID, HILLTOP AND BRIARWOOD WAS ADDED. ORIGINALLY IT WAS JUST DOGWOOD.

PARK BOULEVARD. IT'S ALMOST THERE. WE'RE WAITING ON SOME FRANCHISE UTILITY TO MOVE SOME UTILITY LINES. ONCE THEY MOVE THOSE LINES, THEN WE CAN GO OUT FOR BID AND START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT DOWNTOWN, THE BIRMINGHAM. IT SAYS RIGHT HERE, 97 COMPLETE. LAST WEEK WE GOT THE 100% DESIGN COMPLETE FOR IT. SO WE WAITING AGAIN ON SOME UTILITIES TO FRANCHISE UTILITY TO MOVE SOME UTILITIES. AND THEN WE CAN GO OUT TO BID AND GET SOME CONSTRUCTION. MOVING ON THAT KRAMER LANE. WE ARE DOING SURVEY WORK AT THE MOMENT. WE CAN ACTUALLY GO IN TO DESIGN.

IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR LANE ROAD AS WELL, ALL THE WAY UP TO TROY ROAD, CRESCENT CRESCENT, OAK. YEAH. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD MAKEOVER FOR THAT ROAD AS

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AND SO IF IT'S OUR CONTRACTOR, THE WAY WE AWARD BIDS IS NOT ALWAYS LOW BID. IT'S BASED ON SERVICE LEVELS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. WE HAVE A WHOLE METRIC THAT WE GRADE. BIDS ON. THANK YOU. SO JUST DEPENDING ON WHO WHO'S THE CONTRACTOR IT IS WILL SOMEWHAT DEPEND ON THAT. BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL. YEAH. NO PROBLEM.

I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET OURSELVES INTO A STICKY SITUATION THERE BECAUSE I DON'T, AS YOU SAID, I DON'T KNOW FOR WHO WOULD BE THE CHOOSING THE CONTRACTOR THERE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO LET LET THAT LIE WHERE IT IS. SO APPRECIATE ANY UPDATES AS Y'ALL GET THOSE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE 78 CORRIDOR. TEXTILE WAS NOTIFIED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THEY. IT WOULD GO INTO DESIGN IN 2027. TEXT. I ARE THINKING THAT THE PROJECT WILL START 2029. OR PROJECTING THE PROJECT BE GOING IN CONSTRUCTION 2029. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS? I'M ASSUMING IT'S A SIMILAR PROJECT TO THE ONE FOR 544. JUST ON 78. YEAH, YEAH. THE PUBLIC WORKS PARKS AND SHELTER COMPLEX, WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A BOND MEETING FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS. WELL, YESTERDAY WAS OUR LAST SECOND BOND MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT OF ABOUT EXTENDING PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 2012 WITH FIVE BAYS, EIGHT DIVISION WITH LIMITED STORAGE AND OFFICES, PARKS. SAME THING. BUILT IN 1991. REINVENTED. REINVENTED IN 2012 WITH LIMITED STORAGE, ANIMAL SHELTER BUILT IN 2000 2006. ADDED SPACE TO ADD SPACE FOR DOGHOUSES 2024. IT WAS REINVENTED. LIKE I SAID, WE. OVER CAPACITY AT PUBLIC WORKS,

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CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY GARAGE SPACES WITH US TAKING MORE IN IN HOUSE FOR THE FLEET DEPARTMENT, WITH THE FLEET DEPARTMENT. THE FLEET DEPARTMENT HAS TAKEN UP A LOT OF OUR BAY AREAS FOR FOR DOING WORK. THE BUILDING. WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THE BUILDING.

EITHER WE MOVE OUT IN THAT AT THE TOP. AT THE TOP OF. THERE'S FOUR ACRES RIGHT BESIDE FOUNDERS PARK IN THE BACK OF THE COMPLEX, BUILD A WHOLE NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING FOR US.

WE'RE LOOKING AT 12,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES AND 12,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR BASE SPACE. THE OTHER RED BOX OVER HERE IS THE WEST LOT. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT PARKING SPOT PARKING AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FOUNDERS AND. THE GAMES THAT WYLIE ISD HAVE, BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THESE THESE RESIDENTS, THEY PARK ON HENSLEY AND MAKING IT ALMOST A ONE WAY STREET BECAUSE THEY PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADS. BUT GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING. YES, WE ARE IN NEED OF SOME MORE SPACE. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE, PARKING SPACE FOR OUR VEHICLES, OUR STAFF, VEHICLES AND OUR. CITY VEHICLES. WE VERY COMPACT IN THAT RIGHT NOW. SO AND JUST TO CLARIFY, JUST FOR SOMEONE WHO MIGHT READ ONLY READ IT, GARAGE SPACE FOR STAFF ISN'T ABOUT YOU PARKING YOUR PERSONAL CAR SOMEWHERE. THIS IS ABOUT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMEWHERE, TO BE ABLE TO DO THE FLEET MAINTENANCE WORK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS WELL AS THE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE USING THAT ARE CURRENTLY STORED OUTSIDE. BEING ABLE TO PULL THOSE IN UNDERCOVER AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO TO SPEAK. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE READS IT.

THEY DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD INTERIOR GARAGES FOR EVERYONE TO PULL INTO WHEN THEY GET TO WORK, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. IT'S JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, CITY VEHICLES. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? BECAUSE. STRIPING STRIPING HAS BEEN A BIG DEAL. JUST LIKE STRIPING BEING A BIG DEAL, JUST LIKE THE LIGHTING IN THE CITY.

COUNCILMAN STRAND, I THINK IT WAS IN APRIL. YOU WANTED TO KNOW THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH IT'LL BE FOR US TO TAKE ON ALL THE STRIPING IN-HOUSE INSTEAD, VERSUS BIDDING OUT JUST LIKE WE BID IT OUT. IT WAS BID OUT FOR 160,000 JUST TO DO COUNTRY CLUB. THESE ARE THE TRUCKS THAT THEY WERE. THESE COMPANIES WERE USING A GRINDER PRO TRUCK, A THERMO PRO TRUCK AND A SCORPION SAFETY TRUCK. WE, WE, WE REACHED OUT TO OTHER CITIES. AND THE FIRST THING OTHER CITIES THOUGHT WAS, DON'T DO IT. LEAVE IT UP TO THE THE CONTRACTORS TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A HASSLE JUST WITH THE THERMAL TRUCK, I HIT HIM, HIT MORE ON THERMAL TRUCK, THERMAL TRUCK THERMAL LASTS BETWEEN 3 TO 8 YEARS. THAT TRUCK WILL BE SICK. IF WE WAS TO DO ALL OF THE STRIPING IN TOWN WITHIN ONE YEAR, THAT TRUCK WOULD SIT PROBABLY 3 TO 5 YEARS. WHICH MEANS WITH THIS TEXAS HEAT, YOU KNOW, WITH LINES BREAKING, GETTING BRITTLE, SOMETHING MESSING UP ON IT, LINES GETTING CLOGGED UP. SO I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE NECESSARY FOR US TO DO THIS IN-HOUSE. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE VENDORS. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR, HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON STRIPE IN A YEAR? STRIPE IN A YEAR? DO YOU KNOW ON TOP OF YOUR HEAD. SO WE DON'T USE THERMAL, SIR, GIVE OR TAKE. NOT THERMAL. NOT. ARE YOU

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SORRY, SORRY ABOUT THAT FOR, FOR A MINUTE I THOUGHT MY APOLOGIES, MY APOLOGIES, BUT 160,000. I THOUGHT CHIEF RITTER WAS THERE FOR A MINUTE. WE TRY TO DO. WE TRY TO LEAVE THE BIG STUFF FOR THE CONTRACTORS LIKE THAT. BUT. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER ON TOP OF MY HEAD. IF YOU COULD JUST SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL WHENEVER YOU GET THE NUMBER. OVERALL, WHAT WE SPEND THE YEAR IN LAST FIVE YEARS, WE JUST SPENT THAT. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANYBODY GOT ANY OTHER. YES, SIR. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD HELP TO SEE THAT, I GUESS. I GUESS THAT MAKES IT THE HARD THING IS WHAT YOU DO WITH THE EQUIPMENT FOR THOSE OTHER YEARS. YES.

OBVIOUSLY, THE EMPLOYEES CAN BE ASSIGNED TO OTHER DUTIES. CORRECT. BUT THE TRUCKS JUST SIT. AND ALSO, CAN I ELABORATE ON. SURE. SOME MORE STUFF. JUST JUST THE MACHINE. THIS NOT INCLUDING PERSONNEL. MATERIALS TO FOR PERSONNEL JUST TO RUN THESE THREE MACHINES, WE NEED SEVEN ADDITIONAL GUYS FOR THIS FOR THIS TO RUN IT. YEAH. WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN GUYS TO RUN THESE MACHINES. AND LIFE EXPECTANCY ON THESE MACHINES, GIVE OR TAKE. DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WE USE THEM. AND WE KEEP IT UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE. YEAH. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS AN ISSUE. THE ISSUE I THINK IT'S MORE OF IF THEY SIT FOR FIVE YEARS. YEAH. I THINK IT'S THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE HOSES AND STUFF THAT CREATES MORE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. EVERY 2 OR 3 YEARS NOW WE CHANGE THINGS.

SO THAT'S FOR SURE. YEAH. SO I'LL ASK THIS QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY THE THERMO ON SOME OF THE MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT HAVE THE HIGHER TRAFFIC. AND WE, LET'S SAY WE KEEP BIDDING THOSE OUT TO VENDORS. ARE WE AND THIS IS JUST MY IGNORANCE POTENTIALLY. DO WE HAVE A GOOD SYSTEM FOR BEING ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE MORE RESIDENTIAL STREETS? ARE WE DOING THOSE IN HOUSE? SO GREAT. A GREAT EXAMPLE, I'M GOING TO KICK MYSELF THE NEIGHBOR. WHAT WHAT'S OUR MAIN ROAD INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? OF COURSE, I CANNOT REMEMBER THE ENTRANCE.

COLLINS. SO COLLINS GOT STRIPED? YES, SIR. DID WE DO THAT INTERNALLY? YES. OKAY. BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS NOW AND IT'S STILL IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF POTENTIAL VENDOR COSTS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUPPLIES OR WHATEVER TO DO SOME OF THE MORE RESIDENTIAL, LOW TRAFFIC STREETS WITH OUR PROCESS. BUT THEN THE 1020, WHATEVER THEY ARE, THE VERY BUSY STREETS, IT WOULD BE WHAT THE THERMO WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED FOR. IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO ASSESS THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY. SORRY. I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT STRIPING, BUT I'M LEARNING. YES, SIR. YEAH. WE WE CURRENTLY DO RESIDENTIAL.

CROSSWALKS, SCHOOL ZONES, ALL THAT GOOD. SO MY GOAL IN THE FUTURE IS TO DO MORE THERMAL. I LOVE TO GET A THERMAL MACHINE NOT THIS BIG, BUT TO DO IN HOUSE. A LITTLE SMALLER MACHINE TO DO IN HOUSE FOR THESE RESIDENTIALS AND THESE SEMI MINOR STREETS AND LEAVE THE BIG STREETS. YOU KNOW, YOUR COUNTRY CLUB, YOUR BROWN STREETS, THOSE BIG, THOSE BIG STREETS, WILEY EAST FOR VENDORS TO COME OUT AND DO FOR US. AND I'D LOVE TO AS YOU GET IT. IT'S NOT A RUSH TO SEE SOME INFORMATION ON. I'LL CALL IT THE SMALLER MACHINE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT WOULD WORK FOR OUR IN HOUSE FOR SOME OF THAT, BECAUSE IT JUST HELPS WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO ADDRESS MAYBE THE NEEDS NOW, BUT THE NEEDS. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, OVER TEN YEARS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO. WELL, I GOT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I PHRASE THINGS. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A DESIRE TO DROP $20 MILLION AND DO EVERY RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH A VENDOR. SO WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR SOME OF THOSE SIDES, RESIDENTIAL TYPE STREETS WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS, IN ADDITION TO THE PLAN FOR THE

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NO YOU'RE FINE. SORRY. BUT YES, WE DO HAVE SOME. LIKE I SAID, WITH THE SMALLER, WE DID GET A QUOTE ON IT. AND IT WASN'T JUST A MACHINE. IT WAS A TRAILER THAT WE HAD TO GET WITH IT TO KEEP THE THERMOPLASTIC HEATED. AND WE WAS TOLD IF WE GET ONE THERMOPLASTIC, A LITTLE SMALLER MACHINE, WE HAVE TO GET TWO, BECAUSE FOR THE WHITE AND THE YELLOW. SO HE TOLD US WE WE DON'T NEED TO MIX WHITE AND YELLOW IN THE MACHINE, SO GET TWO OF THEM. SO YES. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. YES, SIR. I GUESS THAT'S THE END OF MY CONCLUSION OR MY PRESENTATION. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING FOR ME? YEAH. COUNCILMAN PICKENS, THANK YOU. SORRY. I LOOK, I LOOKED THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A LIGHT. SIR, EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED STREETS BEING PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR PROCESS AND PHILOSOPHY ON HOW YOU DO THAT AND WHAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED WITH THAT? SO RIGHT NOW WE MORE WE TRYING, WE LEANING TOWARDS THE WAY OF BEING PROACTIVE, BUT MORE REACTIVE, ESPECIALLY JUST WITH SIDEWALKS. WE GET SO MANY SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, A MONTH PROBABLY NOT. WE PROBABLY GET MORE SIDEWALKS A WEEK BECAUSE EITHER WE IN THAT ZONE, ONCE WE GET IN THAT ZONE, RESIDENTS TEND TO CALL IN. SO THERE'S MORE SIDEWALKS ADDED TO OUR LIST. WE CURRENTLY DOING IT BY ZONES. WE HAVE THE CITY ZONED OUT AND FIVE ZONES. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ZONE THREE OF TRYING TO DO SOME LITTLE, LITTLE SIDEWALKS. WHEN RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, TIRED OF WAITING ON THE LIST. SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEY GET, THEY GET FINISHED BEFORE WE GET ANY COMPLAINTS FROM. THEY COMPLAIN UP HIGHER. WE TEND TO SEND THAT SEE THAT A LOT, BUT I THINK WITH EXTRA TWO GUYS, THIS WILL HELP US A LOT BECAUSE WE CAN EITHER WE CAN HAVE ONE GROUP GO OUT, CUT, PULL AND THE NEXT GROUP COME OUT FORM THE SIDEWALK UP, SCHEDULE CONCRETE AND KEEP DOING THAT PHASE. OR WE CAN SPLIT, YOU KNOW, THE GUYS UP, ONE CREW B AND ZONE ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND THE OTHER GROUP CAN BE IN THE OTHER HALF OF THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK THOSE TWO GUYS, TWO OPERATOR ONES WILL COME COME INTO PLAY FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE. STREETS. ONE THING I HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, JUST IF I SEE A POTHOLE IN THE STREET, JUST KIND OF I JUST REGISTER IT. I DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT JUST TO SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET REPAIRED, I HAVE NOTICED THAT IT'S FAIRLY QUICKLY. YES, SIR. SO IS THAT PART OF YOUR PROACTIVE PROCESS? ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT RUNNING AROUND THAT THEY SEE SOMETHING? THEY REPORT IT? YES, SIR. YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S FAIRLY BIG. WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE AT EVERY CORNER OF THE STREET. SO RESIDENTS, THEY HELP US OUT A LOT BY CALLING THOSE THOSE POTHOLES OR ROAD BUCKLES IN SO THEY CAN KEEP DOING THAT. WE CAN BE VERY, VERY PROACTIVE. AND WHEN WE DO GO OUT AND DO THESE POTHOLES, WE MARK THESE AREAS. WE GETTING TAKING THE MEASUREMENTS AND GETTING QUOTES JUST IN CASE. IF THESE POTHOLES TURN INTO ROAD BUCKLES AND THEN WE CAN, WE ALL HAVE ALREADY HAVE THE QUOTE IN HAND AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TALK TO OUR CONTRACTOR OR IF WE NEED TO GO AND ASSESS IT NOW, WE CAN GO OUT AND DO IT OURSELVES. SO Y'ALL FLAG A POTHOLES POTENTIALLY BECOMING A BIGGER PROBLEM LATER ON. YES, SIR.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. NO, SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM COMES IN UNDER THE WIRE. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE TURNOVER RATE. AND LAST YEAR IN 2025 WE ONLY HAD 11. SO THEY IMPROVED FROM THE PREVIOUS

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[WS2. Discuss FY 2027 General Fund Budget.]

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET ME KNOW. SO THIS SLIDE HERE REALLY JUST TALKS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW WITH THE PROPOSED REVENUE. WE'RE A LITTLE OVER 8.18 BILLION, WHICH REFLECTS A 1% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS ESTIMATED AT APPROXIMATELY 127 MILLION, WHICH BROUGHT IN ABOUT 740,000 IN NEW REVENUE FOR FY 27 SALES TAX. AS WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GENERALLY BUDGETED SOMEWHERE OVER THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE YEARS, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10% DOWN TO, I THINK 5% THIS YEAR INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. THIS NEXT YEAR, WE ARE PROPOSING A 2% INCREASE. AND AS YOU'LL SEE THERE. THE SIX MONTH ACTUALS FOR. ARE AT ABOUT 47%. SO WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE ON THE TRACK THERE.

THIS DOES ASSUME. A TAX RATE TO SUPPORT THIS BUDGET IS ESTIMATED AT 581442, WHICH INCLUDES THE REVENUE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE DEBT THAT WE JUST ISSUED OR THE DEBT PAYMENT THAT WE JUST ISSUED, AND A INCREASE IN OUR SOLID WASTE SERVICE OF 5%. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SLIDE

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SLIDE HERE? IF YOU'LL GO BACK REAL QUICK, I APOLOGIZE. THE LAST LINE ITEM THERE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET INCREASE, EXCLUDING ITEMS ABOVE. SO WHICH ITEMS IS THAT EXCLUDING. THE HEALTH INSURANCE. OH THOSE THREE ITEMS. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE GENERAL THE GENERAL BUDGET INCREASE 0.7%. AND THEN THE OVERALL INCREASE IS IF YOU ADD IN THE THREE THAT ARE SPLIT UP AT THE TOP. JUST MAKING SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS REFERRING TO BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WAS THE 287 AND THE 1.7 ABOVE THAT AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY. YEAH. SO WE BREAK OUT THE PERSONNEL EXPENSES FROM THE OPERATE THE I ASSUMED, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS IN CASE WE HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME EXACT NUMBERS. SURE. SO THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS WHERE THE GENERAL FUND STANDS CURRENTLY OUR BASE EXPENSES THERE. ARE APPROXIMATELY 68 MILLION. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE THE MERIT STEP AND HEALTH CARE. BEFORE YOU GO ON, I APOLOGIZE. NO YOU'RE GOOD. SHE KNOWS. MIKE, JUST A QUESTION. THE 6890 THERE THE BASE EXPENSE THAT INCLUDES THAT 0.7 THAT'S BEING REFERRED TO OR THE OVERALL FROM THE PRIOR SLIDE. THAT INCLUDES THE NON PERSONNEL EXPENSES THAT WENT UP SLIGHTLY. THAT'S CORRECT. 69. WELL NO THE BOTTOM HAS THE MERIT STEP IN HEALTH CARE. I'M JUST SAYING DOES THE 6809424 THERE. THAT INCLUDES THE ANTICIPATED SMALL AMOUNT THAT THE BASE BUDGET IS GOING UP. I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY INCLUDES THE 287,000. THERE YOU GO. I'M JUST MAKING SURE YEAH, THAT I UNDERSTAND. SO SO TOTAL EXPENSES. THEY'RE ABOUT 69 MILLION. SO THAT IN THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY SAYS WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION LEFT OVER TO DO THINGS, WHICH ISN'T TRUE. WE GOT OUR FINAL NUMBERS FROM TMRS, WHICH IS OUR RETIREMENT.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT RETIREMENT SYSTEM. AND THAT INCREASE, THAT NUMBER INCREASED BY ABOUT 118,000. SO WE'RE LEFT WITH. YEAH, ABOUT 900 000. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF WHY THAT WOULD CHANGE. SO IS IT A THE CITY CONTRIBUTES 14%. EMPLOYEES CONTRIBUTE SEVEN.

WELL, LET'S I CAN EXPLAIN IT, BUT SHE'LL DO I GET I GET THE THE MONEY THAT WE ARE HAVING TO PUT IN. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S CAUSING THE INCREASE. IF WE JUST MISS ESTIMATE IT OR IF WE'RE MAKING UP A PAYMENT OR IF THEY'VE RAISED FEES, JUST NO. TMRS CALCULATES A RATE FOR US EVERY YEAR, WHICH WILL SORT OF MAKE THE CITY WHOLE AS TO WHAT THEY

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AND IT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE ANY LIKE INVESTMENT. THEY WOULD CONSIDER INVESTMENT EARNINGS SO THAT WE COULD MEET WHATEVER PROJECTED AMOUNT THEY THINK THAT OUR CITY NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND. OKAY I UNDERSTAND YES, I UNDERSTAND NOW. AND THAT'S SOMETHING IT SOUNDS LIKE I NEED TO TALK TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT. AND I DON'T MEAN THAT. I MEAN STATE LEVEL. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAKING SURE THE MARKET KEEPS UP WITH DIFFERENT THINGS AND WHERE THEY INVESTMENT. THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S DRIVING THAT. OKAY. BEHIND THE SCENES, WE'LL CALL IT. YEAH. SO AND PART OF THAT MAY BE BASED ON STATE LEGISLATION. WE'RE GUARANTEED 5% INTEREST ANNUALLY. AND IF THEY DON'T PUT IT IN PLACES THAT EARN 5% OR ALLOW THEM TO PUT IT IN THOSE. YEAH, I WILL SAY, WELL, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT. SORRY, THAT SO. ASIDE FROM OUR BASE BUDGET, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY BALANCED HERE, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 900,000 LEFT OVER TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH, WE DID HAVE ABOUT 361,000 IN PERSONNEL REQUESTS. WE DID HAVE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION IN 1 TIME EQUIPMENT REQUESTS. AND THEN AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WE WANTED TO BRING BACK ANYTHING THAT MAY QUALIFY FOR PEFKOS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WHICH EQUALED ABOUT 3.8 MILLION. SO. THE. DIRECTION THAT WE REALLY NEED TONIGHT IS AS AS WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED BY Y'ALL, WE HAVE EVALUATED PUBLIC SAFETY. STEP PLAN WHERE THE MARKET DICTATES. THE LAST DIRECTION RECEIVED BY COUNCIL WAS TO BE AT 100% OF AVERAGE OF OUR PEER CITIES. WHEN THAT CAME BACK, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS OFF BY ABOUT 2%, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS OFF BY ABOUT 3%. DISPATCH WAS OFF A LITTLE BIT.

SO TOTAL. FOR THAT. IF WE STAY AT 100%, AVERAGE IS ABOUT 640,000. SO YOU TAKE THAT 900,000, YOU SUBTRACT 640,000 FROM THAT. AND. WE'RE LEFT WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND TO DO THINGS WITH. SO I DO NEED DIRECTION ON IF STAFF WANT OR IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO MAINTAIN 100% OF AVERAGE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT NOW OR COME BACK TO IT. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANKS, MAYOR. DO YOU WANT TO GO ON THAT OR DO YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REVENUE? WHICHEVER YOU LIKE FIRST, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, SIR. I GUESS WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST. WHAT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? THE CITY MANAGER TO US ABOUT? I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME WHEN WE DID A BIG PAY INCREASE, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO GO AT 95% AT THE TIME. WHEN WE DID THAT, WE WERE EVEN LOWER THAN 95%, AND WE DID A BIG INCREASE TWO YEARS AGO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S 100%. AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, I THINK ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE IN GOOD STANDING IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL, AND THEY'RE PRETTY FULL IN TERMS OF THE OPEN SLOTS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AVAILABILITY. SO WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS FROM

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BUT FROM A. FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE. OKAY. THANK YOU ABOUT THAT. ONE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN HERE NOW THREE YEARS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN AND I'VE HAD MY OWN BUSINESSES. SO I DO KNOW THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND HOW THAT WORKS. I DON'T. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW DO WE ACQUIRE OR HOW DO WE GET OUR HEALTH INSURANCE? DO OUR CURRENT HR DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH DIFFERENT COMPANIES? DO WE HIRE A CONSULTANT THAT BRINGS BRINGS THESE POLICIES TO US? CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT? AND WHAT ARE THE PROCESS OF US WORKING ON THIS HEALTH INSURANCE? EVERY YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE HAVE GONE FROM 10 TO 12 TO 14%.

THAT'S GONE UP FOR 25 YEARS. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY. I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS AND IT'S GONE UP EVERY YEAR. THERE'S ONE YEAR THAT WE RECEIVED A THEY CALL IT A PASS WHERE WE DIDN'T GET AN INCREASE, BUT GUESS WHAT? THE NEXT YEAR. SO WE DO HAVE A COMPANY THAT WE CONTRACT WITH CALLED HUB THAT GOES OUT AND SOLICITS INSURANCE COMPANIES BIDS ON OUR BEHALF. AND THAT'S HOW WE THEY NEGOTIATE FOR US, SO TO SPEAK. THE PROBLEM BECOMES. AND WE PAY THAT COMPANY, WE DO. OKAY. DO WE KNOW THE AMOUNT BY CHANCE. NO. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE PAY? HUB LEDDY? SHE SAID PROBABLY ABOUT 40,000. 40,000. YOU LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

SORRY. OH. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, EVEN LAST WEEK, WHEN I WAS AT THE TEXAS CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE. ALL ALL CITIES ARE FACING THE SAME CHALLENGE. ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 40% INCREASE THROUGH HEALTH CARRIERS. IT'S A BROKEN SYSTEM. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO HOW TO FIX IT. IN MY OPINION, A 10% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER. I KNOW OUR EMPLOYEES NEED HEALTH INSURANCE AND IT IS ALL BASED ON OUR USAGE. OUR CARRIER DOESN'T MATTER WHO IT IS. THEY WANT OUR USAGE SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, AROUND 7,080% AND WE'RE OVER 100 CURRENTLY. SO WE ANNUALLY, WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS. WE HAVE GONE FROM A. A CO-PAY WHERE YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR AND PAY THEM 30 BUCKS TO A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT WITH NO CO-PAY. WE'VE BASICALLY GIVEN TWO OPTIONS NOW WHERE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CO-PAY OPTION BECAUSE THAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY, YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE. THE PREMIUM FOR THAT. AND THEN THEN JUST ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, WE'VE LOOKED AT CHANGING CARRIERS. THERE'S REALLY NO SAVINGS IN THAT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT GOING TO A. OH NO PICK ON THE MAYOR, BUT HE WON'T COMMENT ON THIS TEXAS HEALTH OR ANY OF THE MAJOR HEALTH CARRIERS. BUT TEXAS HEALTH'S THE ONE I'M FAMILIAR

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THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SO ON THAT NOTE, A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. ONE, I KNOW I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, BUT NARROW NETWORK. AND OF COURSE I WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IF HR WAS PART OF THAT. BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY ENGAGE IN A MULTI YEAR CONTRACT THAT HAS GUARANTEED PRICING. A LOT OF TIMES YOU CAN LOCK IN A 3 TO 5 YEAR. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE SAME DOLLAR YEAR TO YEAR, BUT THERE'S A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM INCREASE A LOT OF TIMES OF 3 OR 5 YEAR PERIOD. IF WE'RE SEEING DOUBLE DIGITS EVERY YEAR. AND WE COULD SAVE A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT ALSO HAVE AN INCREASE THAT WAS LOCKED IN AT 7% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS. IT WOULD HELP FROM A BUDGETING STANDPOINT TO KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID THAT ONE YEAR. PLEASE COME RIGHT ON DOWN HERE. YOU KNOW THIS A LOT BETTER THAN I DO. SO WE DO HAVE A MULTI YEAR CONTRACT RIGHT NOW WITH CIGNA. AND IN OUR FIRST TWO YEARS IT WAS WRITTEN IN OUR CONTRACT THAT IF OUR CLAIMS VERSUS. OUR CLAIMS EXPERIENCE WAS UNDER OR OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, OUR INCREASE WOULD BE SAY 10%. RIGHT. BUT THEY ONLY LOCK THAT IN FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF OUR PLAN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE OUR CLAIMS DATA HISTORY FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS WHAT THEY LIKE TO LOOK BACK TO. THE PROBLEM IS OUR CLAIMS KEEP SPIRALING. THEY'RE OUT OF THEY'RE JUST RISING HEALTH CARE COSTS. AND OUR LARGE CLAIMS HAS INCREASED OVER THE LAST STEADILY OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THERE WAS AT LEAST TWO YEARS WHERE WE HAD A NO PASS BEFORE WE WENT TO CIGNA. AND SO THAT WAS TO OUR ADVANTAGE, I THINK, OF WHY WE GOT THAT TWO YEAR AND THAT FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, BUT IT WILL BE UP FOR RENEWAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 28, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN AND LOOK AT INTRODUCING A OR INCLUDING A MULTI YEAR CONTRACT IN THERE, OR AT LEAST A RATE TERM GUARANTEE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO THAT IS A BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

LIKE WE HAD COPAYS FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE HAD TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE NO CHARGE FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY. NOW IT'S TIME TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL. STEADILY, OUR CLAIMS INCREASE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE DIGITS. BUT WE'VE TRIED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO KEEP IT UNDER 12% BECAUSE WE JUST KNOW IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. 38% ORIGINALLY WAS OUR NUMBER. AND IT'S COMING DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, 12, 13%. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT TO OUR PEERS. THAT'S PRETTY POSITIVE. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE CLAIMS DATA AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE LARGE CLAIMS. WE DO IT MONTH TO MONTH. IS THAT HELPFUL? YES, IT IS, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS FROM THE INSURANCE PERSPECTIVE ON THE ON THAT. SO YEAH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING I GUESS, AND I THINK I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALONE AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK NO, AS FAR AS THE CITY OR FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS TRYING TO MANAGE THROUGH THIS. I GUESS, I GUESS AT THIS POINT, WHAT HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY YOU I KNOW YOU WERE AT THE CONFERENCE. WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING WHEN THEY'RE FACED WITH THE SITUATION WHERE EVEN IF THEY HIT THE 3.5%, THEY JUST THERE'S NO MONEY. SO IF THEY ABSORB EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT ARE WHERE ARE WE SEEING, I GUESS THE PRESSURE VALVES RELEASED FIRST OR WILL WE NOT KNOW UNTIL AFTER THIS BUDGET SEASON? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE EITHER UNDER MARKET OR THEY HAVE GUARANTEES ON PERCENTAGES OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, AND THOSE ARE PLAYING AGAINST HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS, MERIT RAISES, STEP RAISES INFLATION. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE FINDING IT DIFFICULT. WHERE ARE WE SEEING, I GUESS THEM RELEASE THE PRESSURE TO BE ABLE TO BALANCE. ARE WE SEEING FEWER MARKET ADJUSTMENTS? ARE WE SEEING HEALTH INSURANCE SHIFTED MORE ONTO THE EMPLOYEE? I GUESS

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YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WHATEVER THAT IS, WE'RE GOING TO BE 90%, 95%, 100%, 50%. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT IT IS. IT'S JUST WHAT COUNCIL DECIDES. I KNOW. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, SASSY CAME OUT AND SAID THAT, HEY, WE'D LOVE TO DO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T. AND YEAH, DOES THAT IMPACT TURNOVER AND, AND STAFFING? SURE. BUT AND I'VE SAID FOR A LONG TIME.

THESE LARGE INCREASES IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT. OTHER CITIES HAVE ADOPTED HIGHER TAX RATES. AND I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S JUST A FACT.

PLANO IS AN EXAMPLE. LAST YEAR, THEY ADOPTED THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN NEED ALL OF IT. BUT THEY ADOPTED THAT BECAUSE OF FUTURE PLANNING. SO THERE'S A GAMUT THERE OF WHAT YOU CAN SELECT TO DO. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A IT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE ON. AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT MAY NOT BE POPULAR, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S WE ARE WHO WE ARE. AND WE GOT THE MONEY. WE GOT. WELL, IN SPEAKING TO THAT, I WANTED TO WANTED TO ASK. PERSONNEL REQUESTS THAT I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO BE BLUNT.

WE'RE PRETTY MUCH LOCKED. I BELIEVE IT'S AN SRO. THE ONLY PERSONNEL REQUEST I'M GOING TO MAKE OR RECOMMENDATION IS TWO CROSSING GUARDS. OKAY. POTENTIAL. I KNOW YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT EVERYTHING. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT. OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THAT, WHICH FROM OUR HISTORY PAYS 50% OF THAT. AND IT'S ABOUT 200 $0.

BUT THAT'S AT THIS POINT BASED ON WHERE WE STAND TODAY WITH THE BUDGET. I MEAN, WE GOT $200,000. SO MY, MY, THE CROSSING GUARDS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AGAIN, UNLESS YOU ALL GIVE ME DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THAT'S THE ONLY REQUEST THAT I WILL THAT I'LL MOVE FORWARD, THAT TAKE THAT BACK. WE CAN FUND. TWO SIDEWALK CONCRETE, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT TO CALL THEM PERSONNEL, STREET PEOPLE, BECAUSE TOMMY SAID WE CAN REDUCE THAT BUDGET. WE'RE JUST MOVING IT FROM ONE LINE TO THE OTHER IS ALL WE'RE DOING. SO BUT THAT THAT'S JUST A ZERO IMPACT TO THE BUDGET. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M MAKING. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NUMBERS, BASICALLY WHAT I SEE IS UNDER WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, ONCE WE

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SURE. COUNCILMAN. STRING. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO LET ME GO BACK OVER HERE. SO IF I LOOK AT THE.

SORRY, LET ME FIND IT AGAIN. IT'S KIND OF THAT LAST SLIDE. PAGE 101. LOOK AT SLIDE FIVE.

YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF RAISING TAXES. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT OF THIS. BUT EARLIER ON, YOU ASKED FOR STAFF IS ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL RATE, A VOTER, A TAX RATE OF 0.58 AND SOME NUMBERS, WHICH REPRESENTS A ABOUT A 3.8 CENT INCREASE, NOT PERCENT, BUT 3.8 CENT INCREASE ON THE CURRENT RATE, WHICH IS 0.4. AND SOME MORE NUMBERS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT TOO SMALL. SO THE SUGGESTION HERE IS TO GO AHEAD AND EFFECTIVELY RAISE OUR TAXES, RIGHT? AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? THE RECOMMENDATION IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. YES, SIR. SO AND I KNOW WE HAVE THINGS LIKE EFFECTIVE RATE AND VOTER APPROVAL RATES. AND YOU HAVE TAX RATE. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THESE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE APPROVAL, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AS OPPOSED TO LIKE JUST THE STRAIGHT RATE? ALSO NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU KNOW.

ACTUALLY THE ESTIMATED NO NEW REVENUE RATE. SO PART THIS WILL HAVE TO INCREASE SOME BECAUSE WE JUST SOLD DEBT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ABSORB THAT DEBT PAYMENT. AND THE NO NEW REVENUE SHOULD INCLUDE THE I AND S INCREASE. RIGHT. WHY. RIGHT NOW THE TOTAL RATE SHOULD THE YOU'LL GET AN OH, THE NO PORTION IS WHAT GOES UP 3.5%. THE INS ISN'T CAPPED ON DEBT.

SO YOU PUT THE TWO NUMBERS TOGETHER. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT IS THE. I THINK WHAT WOULD ANSWER COUNCILMAN STRING IS WHAT IS THE SENSE THAT WE'RE ADDING ON THE INS SIDE? SO FOR THE DEBT THAT WE. YEAH, FOR THE DEBT THAT WE AUTHORIZED FOR THE

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WE'RE SITTING AT 34% RIGHT NOW, WELL ABOVE THE 25%. SO I KNOW WE DON'T LIKE TO TOUCH THAT VERY OFTEN, BUT IT'S STILL RATHER HIGH. AND I HAVE A HARD TIME RECONCILING IN MY MIND THAT WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO ASK PEOPLE TO PAY MORE IN TAXES WHILE WE JUST SIT ON THE CASH, SO TO SPEAK. WE CAN'T USE FUND BALANCE FOR ANY OF OUR RECURRING EXPENSES. WE CAN ONLY USE THAT FOR ONE TIME EXPENSES AROUND A LITTLE BIT. I'M SORRY, SHIFT SOME THINGS AROUND A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. IN OTHER WORDS, LINE ITEM CHANGES YOUR LINE ITEMS OUT FOR WHAT GENERAL FUNDS BEING USED FOR VERSUS TAX REVENUE. NO, I'M NOT FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YEAH. FORGET IT. OKAY. SO ONE OTHER THING I'M GOING TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION OF IS I DON'T THINK CPI IS AN APPROPRIATE MEASURE BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T BUY CONSUMER GOODS. THERE'S LIKE FOUR OTHER INDEX FUNDS THAT HANDLE MUNICIPAL KIND OF STUFF. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. BUT YEAH, I HAVE THOSE RIGHT HERE. SO SO AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY, CPI IS HAS INCREASED 3.8%. THE IN OUR CONSTRUCTION COST CON COST INDEX AT ROUGHLY 2.4%. AND THE PRODUCT PRICE INDEX IS ABOUT 6.6% INFLATION. OKAY. SO A BETTER PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT'S HIGHER THAN THE CPI. SURE. YEAH.

SO IF IF YOUR QUESTION, THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE ESTIMATED NO NEW REVENUE RATE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED NUMBERS, THE ESTIMATED NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS $0.54 AND WHATEVER, PLUS A PENNY AND A HALF OR .1.7 CENTS FOR THE DEBT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE ASKING TO GO ABOVE THAT STILL TO COVER SOME OTHER EXPENSES AS WELL. CORRECT. WE'RE ASKING TO GO ABOVE THAT TO COVER MERIT STUFF AND HEALTH CARE INCREASES. AND THOSE ARE ALL THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY ALL RECURRING COSTS. YES, SIR. OKAY. THE ONE TIME EXPENSES THAT YOU REFERENCED EARLIER, THAT WOULD BE THERE ARE NO ONE TIME EXPENSES LISTED IN THIS BUDGET. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WELL, WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS THINKING I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I HAD ASKED THEN. YES, SIR. AND THAT WAS YOU SAID YOU YOU KNEW WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THAT RATE AND NOT DO THE ADJUSTMENT. SO PATROL VEHICLES ARE ABOUT 255,000 PD VEHICLE IN-CAR CAMERAS ARE AT END OF LIFE. THERE ARE ABOUT 136,000. SO THAT PUTS YOU AT ABOUT. 380. WE HAVE TO PAY THE DESIGN THAT LAVONTE JUST WENT OVER FOR THE STREETLIGHT UPGRADES FOR THE GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED. THAT'S 200,000. THE SERVER, OUR SERVER ROOM HVAC. WE DON'T WANT THAT TO GO OUT. AND THAT'S 50,000. AND. OH, I WAS GOING TO DO SOME ROAD STRIPING FOR ABOUT 200 000.

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WHEN I SIT ON THIS SIDE, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART THAT I HATE EXPONENTIALLY, LIKE EVERY TIME I HAVE TO COME TO THIS PART, I HATE IT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS PEOPLE AND IT AFFECTS FAMILIES AND IT AFFECTS OUR CITIZENS. AND EITHER WAY WE GO, IT JUST PUTS ALL OF US IN. A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ABOUT EVERY CITIZEN AND YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IF I'M CORRECT, AND IF I WROTE IT DOWN, IS $48 PER PENNY PER PERCENT, IF WE INCREASE IT. SO WE DO 3.5% THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO, IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT $150 A YEAR FOR EACH HOMEOWNER, GIVE OR TAKE. YES. AND THEN LOOKING AT THE HEALTH CARE, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, INCREASES TO MAKE 100% FOR ALL OUR, OUR PEOPLE THAT PUT THEIR LIVES IN LINE EVERY DAY. IT JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO THAT? BUT THEN HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO SOMEONE THAT'S WORKING EVERY DAY OUT THERE AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD A PAY INCREASE, AND THEY HAVE TO PAY $150 EXTRA A MONTH TO THIS. PLUS, OBVIOUSLY WITH INSURANCE IS THE WAY THEY'RE AFFECTING ALL OF US. GO AHEAD. MISS, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? NO, SHE WAS JUST POINTING OUT, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IN THE COUNCIL, THE THE 150, 160 THAT IT IS THAT'S ANNUAL, NOT MONTH. I MENTIONED THAT I SAID YOU SAID MONTH. NO, I SAID A YEAR. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS JUST CLARIFYING WAS MAKING SURE. OKAY. SO THAT WAS WHAT THE I BELIEVE THE COMMENT WAS. YEAH, I, I'M PRETTY SURE WHAT I SAID YOU'RE GOOD. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M WRESTLING WITH. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN COME OUT AND DEFINITELY, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS NEED AN ANSWER TO COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE POLICY THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE. BUT I DO WANT TO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK I DO WANT OUR EMPLOYEES TO FIRST AND FOREMOST, KNOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THEM. I DON'T EVER WANT THEM TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE NOT 100% OR I'M NOT THERE WITH THEM 100% OF THE WAY. AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT THEM AND WHERE TO GO WITH IT? YOU KNOW, I GOT TO MAKE A DECISION. OBVIOUSLY, I HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS ONE PART THAT IS REALLY LIKE, HOW DO YOU NOT AFFECT EVERYBODY? AND WE'RE HERE TO

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THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU REMIND EVERYONE, WE'RE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. NOW. I ASKED YOU WHAT YOU HEARD FROM YOUR INDIVIDUALS. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF OUTREACH. WHAT I HEAR FROM, I'LL SAY SOME OF OUR MAYBE NOT IN DFW, BUT SISTER CITIES IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS, BEDROOM COMMUNITIES, THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR GROWTH IS PRETTY MUCH STOPPING. THEY'RE BASICALLY TELLING THEIR CITIZENS, THERE'S TWO CHOICES. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE INCREASES OR WE'RE GOING TO CUT NONESSENTIAL SERVICES. THAT IS PARKS. THAT'S LIBRARIES. THE. AND ANY OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS GET PUT ON HOLD. SO YOU PUT PROJECTS ON HOLD AND THOSE OTHER SERVICES TAKE STEPS BACK. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT IS THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD ME. THEY THEY'VE GONE TO THEIR CITIZENS AND SAID, THOSE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M TAKING A STANCE ON EITHER DIRECTION THERE, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE TIME HAVING GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK. BUT THAT IS THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS I'VE REACHED OUT TO IS WE'RE EITHER CUTTING THE NONESSENTIAL OR WE'RE TELLING THE CITIZEN, OR WE'RE HAVING A CAMPAIGN TO TELL THE CITIZENS THAT THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS. SO AND WHILE WE MAY HAVE WHATEVER FLEXIBILITY, IT'S ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO SHRINK OVER TIME. WE MAY HAVE EVEN IF WE DID NOTHING MORE THAN THE NEW MONEY AND SMALL AMOUNT AND COVERED JUST THE MERIT STEP IN HEALTH CARE, UNLESS WE HAVE 1.2, 1.3 NEW GROWTH EVERY YEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF THAT AND THAT'S DOING ZERO OF ANYTHING ELSE. SO EVEN IF WE HAVE A, I'LL CALL IT A WINDOW OF ANY TYPE RIGHT NOW THAT WINDOW IS CLOSING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, AS A COUNCIL, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE STAFF WITH FEEDBACK ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE THIS YEAR. SO I AGREE 100%. AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK LOOKING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AND THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY. INCREASE IF YOU DON'T DO IT YET NEXT YEAR, OR IF YOU DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE IT'S IT'S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE OR INCREASE.

I DON'T KNOW BY HOW MUCH, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. AND BUT YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S INCREASED TAXES OR CUT SERVICES. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE YOUR TWO OPTIONS. YEP. AND THAT'S AND AS FAR AS DIRECTION ON THIS YEAR, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT TOO, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY THERE SPLIT THE BABY. I'M I'M TIRED AND I'M GOING TO LOSE. IS THERE A DESIRE TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE AS FAR AS. IS THERE A COUNCIL DESIRE TO DO A PARTIAL ADJUSTMENT? AGAIN, I'M JUST SAYING THERE THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND I PERSONALLY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO TRY TO DIGEST AND, AND PROVIDE YOU THAT FEEDBACK.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GIVE IT TO YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S JUNE AND WE

[03:10:03]

AND IT IS AN ISSUE. IT'S THE DATA COMES FLYING BACK AT ME. IT'S AN ISSUE ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT CITIES ARE RESPONDING. THEY ARE DOING THINGS. AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME WAS THAT WHAT I WAS LEARNING THROUGH THIS IS THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING RAYTHEON HAS DONE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, AND I'LL JUST LIST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I PENCILED DOWN THAT I WAS SEEING IN THE RESEARCH THAT I WAS DOING WAS ATTRITION STRATEGIES. SO MY COMPANY PUT AN ATTRITION STRATEGY IN PLACE. IF A RETIREE RETIRED THAT THAT RETIREE LEFT THERE WASN'T A HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT YOU MAKE DO WITH WHAT YOU GOT LEFT. NOW, THAT MAY NOT BE THE CITY'S ATTRITION STRATEGY, BUT HAVING AN ATTRITION STRATEGY IN PLACE WAS THE IMPORTANT POINT THAT YOU, YOU MANAGE WHAT THE TRADING OUT OF YOUR STAFF BY NOT REPLACING STAFF, YOU FIND EFFICIENCIES. THE OTHER WAS. ADJUSTMENTS TO BENEFITS. SO MY COMPANY HAS BEEN DOING THAT FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. MY CONTRIBUTION TO MY HEALTH INSURANCE HAS GONE UP EVERY YEAR PERCENTAGE WISE, AND IT'S NOT A ONE STEP BIG. IT IS A MICRO ADJUSTMENT TO COUNTER COSTS, TECHNOLOGY EFFICIENCIES, WHICH WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT. WE'VE BOUGHT SOME SOFTWARE LAST YEAR, I REMEMBER THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE SOME EFFICIENCIES. I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS. WHAT EFFICIENCIES DID WE GET FROM THAT SOFTWARE WE BOUGHT? KIND OF LIKE WHAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS DONE HERE BY SHOWING US AN EFFICIENCY THAT THEY PURSUED IN AND GAVE TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, EVEN A $127,000 SAVINGS. AND ANOTHER WAS PROCUREMENT IMPROVEMENTS. RAYTHEON'S DONE THAT IN SPADES. THE THE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THEY TAKE IN PROCUREMENT FOR ALL THE MYRIAD OF, OF THINGS THAT WE BUY TO DEFEND, TO BUY DEFENSE PRODUCTS IS I CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY. IT'S JUST A PROCESS IMPROVEMENT WITH THEM OF FINDING CHEAPER WAYS TO GET THINGS. THE OTHER THING THAT CAME OUT WAS A LOT OF CITIES ARE GOING TO CONTRACTING AND INDEPENDENT EFFICIENCY STUDY FOR THEIR MANAGEMENT. AND HAVE WE DONE THAT? NO, SIR. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUDGET FOR THAT. WELL, I WOULD ARGUE THAT $100 SPENT TO SAVE 1000. YOU GOT THE MONEY? OKAY. WE JUST HAD. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVEN'T PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT IF WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT, MAYBE WE LOOK INTO THAT. YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND EFFICIENCIES IN THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. THAT BRINGS OUR OUR BUDGET EXPENSES DOWN. THAT'S A THAT'S A WIN. JUST LIKE WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING THEY'VE SHOWN US A WIN HERE. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE WINS LIKE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD. SO SOME OF THAT IS THAT YOU MENTIONED IS ALL POLICY THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO SET. IF IF IF THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE REPLACED THROUGH AN ATTRITION, THAT THAT'S A DECISION THAT COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE. THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A POLICY. THAT'S ALL POLICY DRIVEN. SO THAT'S

[03:15:01]

AND I'LL ADD TO THAT. I'VE PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH BACK IN, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. YOU ALL HAD REQUESTED US TO CUT OUR BUDGET BY 5% AND A 3%. SO Y'ALL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. TO REFERENCE, I GUESS. MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? DO I, DO I YOU, YOU REFERENCED THE NEIGHBORING CITIES. I GUESS YOU COMPILED SOME OF THE DATA FROM THEM THAT YOU CAME UP WITH. THE 98% NUMBER, I'M ASSUMING. IS THAT RIGHT? HE'S TALKING ABOUT YOUR SALARY STUDY, THE SALARIES FOR THE. YES, SIR. YOUR COMPARISON, OUR OUR, OUR. WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM, COMPARATIVE CITIES, COMPETITIVE CITIES. YES, SIR.

WOULD YOU SHARE THAT WITH US, IF YOU DON'T MIND? NOT PUBLIC. YOU CAN EMAIL IT TO US. OH, YOU DON'T WANT. I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE. NO, JUST EMAIL IT. EMAIL IT TO ME SO I CAN LOOK AT IT.

AND THAT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. SO IF COUNCIL HAS A DESIRE TO CHANGE THOSE CITIES THEN THAT'S NO NO THAT'S THAT'S FINE. AND THEN AN OPTION AS WELL. NO, THAT THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT IT. AND THEN THE SECOND PART. WE TALKED ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE AND I GUESS DIFFERENT CITIES DO DIFFERENT THINGS. CAN WE GET SOME DATA ON THAT IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. JUST SURE WHAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE CO-PAYS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE AND KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHAT THEY DO. AND SO I CAN, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ALL THAT WE CAN. WE'RE HAPPY TO, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. IT'LL BE OUR PEER CITIES IF THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I ASK. OKAY. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHERE WHENEVER WE COMPILE, LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION, WE LOOK AT THOSE PEER CITIES OR COMPARATIVE CITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHO, WHO COUNCIL APPROVED US TO, TO BE COMPARED TO. YES, SIR. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. SO APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND UPDATE. AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME FURTHER CONVERSATION SOON. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT WRAPS WORK SESSION TWO FOR THIS EVENING. WE'LL MOVE TO WORK SESSION. I'M SORRY. OKAY. BEING REQUESTED FOR A QUICK BREAK. SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. AND THEN WE WILL GET STARTED WITH WORK SESSION THREE. WITH THAT I'LL GAVEL US BACK INTO SESSION. WE HAVE COMPLETED

[WS3. Discuss 2026 Wylie Championship Rodeo.]

[03:20:06]

EVERY YEAR. WE WOULD SIMPLY BE ALLOWING THEM TO USE PART OF OUR PROPERTY FOR FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY NIGHT RODEO AND, AND PART OF THE PARKING LOT. SO ONE THOUGHT I HAD IS PUT IT UP HERE. AND THIS ISN'T EXACTLY WHERE I JUST SIMPLY MEASURED THE CURRENT RODEO ARENA THAT THEY USE AND LAID IT OUT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF US HERE. AND. TO SEE IF IT WOULD FIT WITHOUT IMPEDING THE BLACKLAND PRAIRIE RESTORATION. I'VE SINCE FOUND OUT THAT IF WE NEED TO. MOW SOME OF THAT, THERE IS NO AGREEMENT WITH THE BLACKLAND PRAIRIE MASTER GARDENER RESTORATION FOLKS, AND WE CAN MOW THAT IF IF THAT'S A DESIRE.

SO SIMPLY PUT, MY THOUGHT WAS, THAT'S RIGHT HERE. WE COULD USE THE VERY BACK OF THE PARKING LOT OVER BY THE LIBRARY FOR ANY RODEO PARTICIPANTS TO PARK WITH THEIR VEHICLES AND TRAILERS, AND POTENTIALLY THIS FIRST AISLE HERE FOR VENDORS. I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF ALL THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MY EVENT, AND I GOT PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS TO HANDLE. SO THAT IS THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE. WHY I AM HERE THIS EVENING IS TO SOLICIT YOUR FEEDBACK AND SEE IF THAT'S A POTENTIAL. OBVIOUSLY, THEY WOULD LIST US ON THEIR INSURANCE AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED AND ALL THOSE THINGS TO COVER THE CITY. SO I WILL. YOU CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE FEEDBACK. I'LL JUST ASK THEM IN GENERAL. AND IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU OR FOR THEM, THEN WE CAN YOU GUYS CAN TAG TEAM AS APPROPRIATE. THEY'RE THE THE FIRST ONE WOULD JUST BE OBVIOUSLY THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR EVENT LIABILITY COVERAGE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS. HAVE WE REVIEWED THAT OR ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO ADD US AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED THROUGH THEIR POLICY. AND IS THERE A RISK TO THE CITY BEYOND THAT, BASED ON THE WAY THE POLICY. I'M NOT AN INSURANCE PERSON, SO NO, IT'D BE LIKE I DO HEALTH INSURANCE. I DON'T DO RISK INSURANCE, I GUESS RISK INSURANCE. YEAH. SO NO, THEIR, THEIR POLICY THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE FOR THE RODEO WOULD COVER US AS WELL. AND MY SECOND QUESTION, THE THINGS LISTED UNDER THERE, I KNOW WE, I KNOW WE WORK WITH THEM ON SITE PLANNING AND THINGS AS IS THE THING THE, THE BULLETS THAT ARE LISTED UNDER THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRAFFIC PUBLIC WORKS. I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO PROMOTIONAL BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALREADY WORK ON THAT, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THAT WE ALREADY DO.

OKAY, SO WE JUST WENT THROUGH BUDGET. I'M JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCUR COSTS IN OVERTIME OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE DON'T NORMALLY ALREADY ENCOUNTER IN ASSISTING WITH THE EVENT. NO, IT'S A PRETTY I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY SOLID PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND THE CHAMBER. WE PROVIDE QUITE A BIT OF STAFFING AND VOLUNTEERS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING TRAFFIC, PUBLIC WORKS, PUTTING OUT BARRICADES AND ALL OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE ALREADY DO THAT AS WELL.

I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION IS ABOUT LOCATION. SO IS THERE A REASON THAT THIS LOCATION IS

[03:25:08]

THERE WAS A THERE'S ANOTHER PLOT THAT I AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T GO OUT AND SURVEY PROPERTY THERE. THERE'S THE LOT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY FIELDS. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE THE RODEO CURRENTLY IS. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LOT WOULD WORK OR NOT. OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT IN. I WOULD ASSUME IF IT THAT IT WOULD FIT THIS SHAPE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE. YEAH, WE HAVE A PICTURE OF IT. NOT TOO FAR. NO. THE ONLY REASON THIS WAS SELECTED IS BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO OUR PARKING LOT. I WASN'T AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PLAN THEIR EVENT. YEAH, THEY CAN DO THAT. AND LOGISTICALLY, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE COLLEGE, WHATEVER. I JUST THOUGHT THAT'S AN EMPTY FIELD. THEY ONLY NEED IT FOR ONE YEAR, MAYBE TWO. AND THEN THEY THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ISD PROPERTY. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT THIS IF THERE'S ANOTHER LOT THE THE TOP RIGHT BOX THERE. THIS RIGHT HERE. YES. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THE CHAMBER. IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT. IT'S SIMILAR TO WHERE WE DO IT. IT DOESN'T GET YOU. IT WOULDN'T GET THE THE THE THE LIGHTS, HIGH BEAMS AND THINGS POTENTIALLY SHINING IN THAT YOU WOULD GET ON A BUSIER ROAD. SO I WELCOME JUST I'M ASKING, SO FEEL FREE TO COME DOWN. IT WAS OR YOU CAN GIVE ME A YES OR NO, AND I CAN JUST SAY IT IN THE MICROPHONE. AND THERE MAY BE A REASON THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DISMISSED IT OR JUST HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I JUST WE HAVE NOT. SORRY, SORRY. WE HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT SITE. DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD POSSIBLY BE A POSSIBILITY. I THINK I'M HEARING FROM SOMEONE THAT THAT AREA HAS PRONE TO FLOODING. SO BUT WE CERTAINLY I MEAN, WE COULD LOOK AT IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD EVEN BE A POSSIBILITY. I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT IT'S THE BEST OPTION. IT WAS JUST OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN FOREFRONT WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS AROUND BOND AND THAT THE LAND IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED. SO IT I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE ALREADY DONE PARKING AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF IN THAT AREA IN THE PAST. SO YEAH, I, AND I KNOW THERE'D BE THINGS THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I JUST IT THAT PROBABLY MY LARGEST CONCERN IS JUST IT BEING NEXT TO A BUSY ROAD FROM A STANDPOINT OF LIGHTS, HIGH BEAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT OFTEN CAN SPOOK ANIMALS. AND NOT TO MENTION THAT THE COUNTRY CLUB. WELL, THEY HAVE THAT, BUT WELL, BUT ALSO, CONVERSELY, A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING THEIR KIDS. AND I'LL JUST SAY, NOT EVERYONE IS ALWAYS PAYING GOOD ATTENTION TO THEIR CHILDREN. AND SO WANDERING OUT INTO THE FIELDS OR THAT IN THAT AREA IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WANDERING ONTO WHY HE IS STILL HERE. BUT COUNTRY CLUB DRIVERS DON'T ALWAYS OBEY THEIR SPEED LIMIT, AND IT'S A MUCH HIGHER SPEED LIMIT TO BEGIN WITH. AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A MEAN WAY TOWARDS TOWARDS PD. I KNOW THEY DO A GREAT JOB ENFORCING, BUT THEY YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SEEN PEOPLE GOING TEARING DOWN THAT ROAD, ESPECIALLY ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH, WITH THE LOCATION AS OPPOSED TO THE PARTNERSHIP. SO I'VE TALKED ENOUGH. COUNCILMAN STRING.

THANK YOU. MAYOR STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER, BUT THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE THE MAYOR. YOU'RE ON THE ONE HAND, I LIKE THE LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S GOT IT'S IT'S RIGHT THERE ALONG COUNTRY CLUB.

IT'S GOT GREAT VISIBILITY. I THINK I LIKE THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S THERE ON COUNTRY CLUB. WE HAVE A FACEBOOK GROUP DEDICATED TO WILEY CRAP DRIVERS. AND THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, THEY'RE KIND OF ECHOING THE MAYOR IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SOME INDIVIDUAL WHO'S VERY INTERESTING AND DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A LOUD CAR AND GUN IT AND DO ALL MANNER OF THINGS. AND WHAT DOES THAT DO IF IT SPOOKS THE HORSES AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF? I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE LOCATION, SINCE WE HAVE THAT SLIDE UP. THAT SOUTHEAST QUADRANT THERE OF FOUNDERS PARK LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, JUST AS ANOTHER CONCEPT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN IS REALLY JUST NOT JUST THE SAFETY LIKE THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR POTENTIAL SPECTATORS AND WHATNOT, BUT JUST THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES. IF SOMEBODY'S DRIVING BY WITH A LOUD VEHICLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE JERKS, I'M A LITTLE LESS GRACIOUS THAN THE MAYOR. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT OTHER SQUARE DOWN THERE? YEP. THAT'S GOT A LOT OF MATERIAL

[03:30:04]

[RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION]

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

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[03:35:05]

[READING OF ORDINANCES ]