[CALL TO ORDER ] [00:00:04] AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MAY 26TH, 2026, CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6 P.M.. WE ASK THAT IF YOU ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE WITH YOU, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE SET IT TO VIBRATE OR TURN IT OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL, YOU NEED TO TAKE. WE ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. DAVID R DUKE PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG. COUNCILMAN STRANG INFORMED US HE WOULD BE A LITTLE LATE THIS EVENING. COUNCILMAN TODD PICKENS PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM GINA MILICI PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION LED BY MYSELF, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE LED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM. DEAR LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON ALL OF US HERE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR LETTING US LIVE IN AN AMAZING CITY, IN AN AMAZING STATE, IN SUCH AN AMAZING COUNTRY. LORD. WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT OTHERS CAN ONLY DREAM OF. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE FAMILIES AND FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY AS WE CELEBRATE THE AMAZING ACHIEVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE MADE IN DEVELOPING CHARACTER THAT WE SEEK TO FIND IN OUR FUTURE LEADERS. LORD, THIS EVENING WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS AND PROTECTION UPON OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WATCH OVER US AND TAKE CARE OF US, WHO GO OUT WILLING TO LAY DOWN THEIR LIFE FOR US STRANGERS. LORD, WE ALSO PRAY YOUR PROTECTION UPON OUR MILITARY AS THEY SERVE, PROTECTING OUR FREEDOM BOTH HOME AND ABROAD. LORD, WE ASK ALL OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. PLEASE BE SEATED. SO WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME SO MANY INDIVIDUALS THIS EVENING, WHO I BELIEVE ARE MOSTLY HERE FOR OUR NEXT SECTION, [PR1. Shining the Wylie Way Students - Term 4. ] WHICH IS OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, WHICH WE WILL START WITH OUR SHINING THE WYLIE WAY STUDENTS FROM TERM FOUR, AND I BELIEVE, DOCTOR SPICER. THERE YOU ARE. I IS HERE. AND I THINK BOARD MEMBER STACY SMITH IS HERE AS WELL, AND I HEAR IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA SPECIAL EVENING FOR YOU. DON'T WORRY, WE ONLY HAVE THREE WORK SESSIONS IN THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOOD RIGHT? YEAH. ARE YOU WITH ME? SO WE WILL ASK EVERYONE TO COME FORWARD ONE AT A TIME. AS I CALL YOUR NAME. I WILL DO MY BEST WITH PRONUNCIATION. BUT I DO MAKE MISTAKES. AND I DO ASK THAT IF FOR ANY REASON I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. IF YOU WILL JUST CORRECT ME WHEN YOU COME UP, I'LL REPEAT IT THE CORRECT WAY. THAT WAY WE GET IT OUT THERE FOR YOU. AND THEN WHILE YOU ARE GETTING YOUR METAL AND YOUR CHALLENGE COIN FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I WILL READ THE COMMENTS FROM THE INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS WHO NOMINATED THE STUDENT FOR THE AWARD. FOR PARENTS, IF YOU CAN GET A PICTURE WHERE YOU'RE AT, GREAT. IF NOT, WE WILL HAVE PICTURES THAT WE POST ONLINE THAT YOU CAN GET. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ALL LINE UP OVER HERE FOR A NICE PHOTO, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THEIR NOMINATION SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE BOTH OF THOSE AND GO ONLINE AND FIND THEM ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL GET STARTED THIS EVENING. AND WE HAVE LEVI LEWIS. LOOKS LIKE HE WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT, AND I KNOW WE WILL HAVE SOME WHO DON'T, SO WE WILL INVITE THEM TO A FUTURE MEETING OR MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THESE. NEXT UP WE HAVE JOCELYN [00:05:03] ALRIGHT. COMING FROM BIRMINGHAM ELEMENTARY, FOURTH GRADE FROM MISS BENNETT AND MISS BERTHA, JOCELYN ALWAYS EXPRESSES A THANK YOU AND SHOWS GRATITUDE FOR EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS. SHE CELEBRATES OTHERS AND ALWAYS SHOWS SUPPORT. HER POSITIVITY IS CONTAGIOUS, CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE FEEL SUPPORTED, MOTIVATED AND PROUD OF THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. THROUGH HER ACTIONS, SHE REMINDS US THAT GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION AREN'T JUST GESTURES, BUT THEY'RE POWERFUL WAYS TO BUILD CONNECTION, INSPIRE CONFIDENCE, AND STRENGTHEN A COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CLASSROOM. CONGRATULATIONS. RIGHT WHERE THAT CAME FROM. BIG SMILE. THANK YOU. NEXT THIS EVENING WE HAVE TASNEEM KNAFO. COMING TO US FROM BUSH ELEMENTARY IN FIRST GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. ASHLEY PAPANIA. TASNEEM IS ONE OF OUR FINEST EAGLES WHO EXEMPLIFIES GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION. HE CAN REGULARLY BE FOUND CHEERING ON HIS CLASSMATES, ENCOURAGING THEM WITH SMILES AND MODELING WHAT GRATITUDE LOOKS LIKE. WE ARE SO PROUD OF THIS SHINING STAR EAGLE. WAY TO GO, TASNEEM. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT THIS EVENING, WE HAVE JAMISON RAGSDALE. OH, I THINK HE OUT DRESSED ALL OF US THIS EVENING. RAGSDALE. I THINK MAYBE HE SHOULD BE THE MAYOR TONIGHT. THEY LEFT YOUR. THEY LEFT YOUR ASS OUT ON ME. WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED. JAMISON RAGSDALE. THEY LEFT THE S OUT. HE'S WE'LL GET YOU AN UPDATED ONE OF THOSE. OKAY. HE'S COMING FROM COX ELEMENTARY, FOURTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. HUTCHINSON AND MRS. ROGERS. JAMISON WORKS HARD, GIVES HIS BEST EFFORT, AND NEVER GIVES UP. EVEN WHEN THINGS GET CHALLENGING, HE IS ALWAYS CHEERING ON HIS CLASSMATES, CELEBRATING THEIR SUCCESSES AND LIFTING OTHERS UP WITH KINDNESS AND ENCOURAGEMENT. JAMISON, WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU AND GRATEFUL FOR THE POSITIVE ENERGY YOU BRING TO OUR SCHOOL. KEEP BEING YOU. YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE. CONGRATULATIONS! HE'S COMING FOR YOUR JOB. HE IS. I AM HAPPY TO HAVE SOMEONE COMING. WE JUST NEED TO SPEED IT UP. IT'S 18. IT'S NOT THAT HIGH. NEXT IS CAMERON BURNS. AND I MISSED THE MEMO ON THE TIE THIS EVENING. IT LOOKS LIKE JAMESON HAS SOME COMPETITION. THERE YOU GO. COMING TO US FROM DODD ELEMENTARY. FIRST GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. MCQUAID. CAM IS A WONDERFUL FIRST GRADE STUDENT WHO TRULY SHINES IN GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION. HE TAKES PRIDE IN HIS LEARNING, SHOWS APPRECIATION TO STAFF AND CLASSMATES, AND CARES ABOUT EVERYONE'S SUCCESS. HE IS A RESPONSIBLE, THOUGHTFUL, AND PROACTIVE STUDENT. CONGRATULATIONS. [00:10:15] CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT THIS EVENING WE HAVE MARIA CRUZ. COMING TO US FROM GROVES ELEMENTARY IN THIRD GRADE. THIS IS FROM MRS. STUBBLEFIELD. MARIA CONSISTENTLY SHINES IN THE WAY THAT SHE SHOWS GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATES OTHERS. SHE TAKES TIME TO SAY THANK YOU, APPRECIATES THE EFFORTS OF HER CLASSMATES, AND RECOGNIZES EVEN SMALL ACTS OF KINDNESS. HER JOYFUL SPIRIT AND APPRECIATION FOR EVEN THE SMALLEST MOMENTS CREATES A WARM, POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE FEELS VALUED AND ENCOURAGED. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT, THIS EVENING WE HAVE CORA AND HIS ECHOLS. ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE CORA MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT. OH, THAT'S SO SAD IT IS SAD. OUR NEXT STUDENT IS MADEA RAHMAN. IT'S ALMOST LIKE SUMMER STARTED, AND PEOPLE HAVE PLANS. YEP. AND NEXT IS SHYRA RASTOGI. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. VACATION TIME. NEXT IS ELLA GUARD. COMING TO US FROM WATKINS ELEMENTARY IN FOURTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. MCCOMAS AND MISS KINNEY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. ELLA HAS CONSISTENTLY EXHIBITED HEARTFELT ACTIONS THAT REFLECT APPRECIATION FOR OTHERS AND JOY IN SHARED SUCCESS. ELLA SHOWS HUMILITY WHEN CONNECTING HER PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENTS, AND I SEE THAT AS A MATURE MINDFULNESS NOT FOUND IN ALL FOURTH GRADERS. SHE IS OUTWARDLY HAPPY AND POSITIVE, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO LIFTING ALL STUDENTS IN OUR CLASSROOM COMMUNITY. ELLA TRULY SHINES AND IS THE EPITOME OF THE WILEY WAY. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. YOU NEED TO DO HER JOB. YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU. I LOVE IT. NEXT HONOREE THIS EVENING IS BROOKS NEVILLE. THANK YOU. COMING TO US FROM WHITT ELEMENTARY, FOURTH GRADE. THIS IS FROM MRS. PHILLIP BROOKS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES KINDNESS AND INCLUSIVITY TOWARDS EVERYONE AROUND HIM. HE LEADS BY EXAMPLE, DEMONSTRATING A WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP WHEN NEEDED. HE IS ESPECIALLY THOUGHTFUL TOWARDS STUDENTS WHO MAY NEED EXTRA SUPPORT OR FRIENDSHIP, MAKING A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THOSE AROUND HIM. BROOKS ALWAYS PUTS FORTH HIS BEST EFFORT IN EVERYTHING HE DOES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT UP, WE HAVE AHMAD AVERY. [00:15:14] COME ON UP HERE, BUDDY. COME ON, COME ON. COME ON UP. HE IS COMING FROM DAVIS INTERMEDIATE IN SIXTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MISS SMITH. AJ COMES INTO THE CLASSROOM WITH A SMILE SO BRIGHT IT CAN LIGHT UP THE ENTIRE ROOM. WHAT MAKES AJ TRULY SPECIAL IS NOT ONLY HIS LOVE FOR SCHOOL, BUT THE KINDNESS HE SHOWS TO OTHERS. HE NEVER FORGETS HIS MANNERS, ALWAYS EXPRESSES GRATITUDE, AND GENUINELY WANTS THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM TO FEEL HAPPY AND APPRECIATED. HIS TEACHERS AND CLASSMATES LOVE HIM DEARLY, AND WE ALL KNOW THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE INCREDIBLE THINGS THAT HE WILL ACCOMPLISH IN LIFE. CONGRATULATIONS, AJ. WELL. COME AROUND AND GET A PICTURE. OH, WE GOT IT. I'LL HOLD IT FOR JUST A MINUTE. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO DRIVE RIGHT OVER HERE? VERY GOOD. OKAY. NOW YOU GOT A SMILE. THANK YOU. HERE. I WILL COME AROUND. READY? YEAH. THERE WE GO. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I LOVE IT. COME ON, COME ON. WHAT DO YOU MEAN, YOU GOT IT? YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU NOW? RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. DID YOU THINK YOU RAN OVER HIM? NO. YOU'RE DOING GREAT, BUDDY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB. THERE'S THAT SMILE THEY TALKED ABOUT. THERE'S THAT SMILE. YEAH. I LOVE IT. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. WELL, OUR NEXT HONOREE THIS EVENING IS AMIR NASH. ALL RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT BODIE WILLIAMS? COMING TO US FROM HARRISON INTERMEDIATE IN SIXTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. CAUSEY. WHAT MAKES BODIE ESPECIALLY DESERVING OF THE GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION AWARD IS THE PRIDE HE TAKES IN HIS PROGRESS. HE HAS SHOWN INCREDIBLE GROWTH THIS YEAR IN READING AND WRITING, AND APPROACHES CHALLENGES WITH OPTIMISM AND DETERMINATION. HIS INSTINCT TO CELEBRATE THE LITTLE AND BIG WINS ALIKE AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS CREATES A POSITIVE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT. BODIE IS RESPECTFUL, KIND AND A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE TO HIS PEERS. TRULY SHINING THE WAY FOR OTHERS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO COMING. TO WHAT? I KNOW GRADE SIXTH GRADE IS WHEN THEY START GETTING TALLER THAN ME. OH. NEXT IS ALLISON JEFFCOAT. BURNETT, JUNIOR HIGH STUDENT IN SEVENTH GRADE. THIS IS FROM MISS TASHA THOMAS. ALLISON DEMONSTRATES KINDNESS, PATIENCE, AND LEADERSHIP IN THE [00:20:07] CLASSROOM. SHE COMES PREPARED. STAYS FOCUSED AND SHOWS PERSEVERANCE EVEN WHEN TASKS ARE CHALLENGING. HER GRATITUDE AND POSITIVE SPIRIT HELP CREATE A SUPPORTIVE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE AROUND HER. SHE CELEBRATES ALL WINS AND SHOWS APPRECIATION DAILY WITH OTHERS. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT THIS EVENING IS TÖRBEL GETAHUN. CONGRATULATIONS. HOW DID MAYOR DO ON YOUR NAME? DID WE GET IT? YES. HE IS COMING FROM COOPER JUNIOR HIGH IN EIGHTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. LEE, IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION. HE IS POLITE, GRACIOUS AND UNDERSTANDING TO BOTH HIS FELLOW CLASSMATES AND HIS TEACHERS. THERE HASN'T BEEN A DAY THAT HE HAS FORGOTTEN TO SAY THANK YOU OR YES MA'AM. HE CELEBRATES THE SMALL MOMENTS AND WHEN HE SEES A POSITIVE SITUATION, HE NEVER FAILS TO MENTION IT. I'M SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE SUCH A KIND AND POLITE STUDENT. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW HE GROWS. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT. THIS EVENING WE HAVE EMERSON MCLEAN. EMERSON MCLEAN COMING TO US FROM MACMILLAN JUNIOR HIGH, EIGHTH GRADE. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. PRITCHARD. EMERSON CELEBRATES STUDENTS AND TEACHERS BY OFFERING COMPLIMENTS, ENCOURAGING WORDS AND INSPIRING POSITIVITY AND KINDNESS. EMERSON TRULY LIVES THE WYLIE WAY AND OUR CLASSES AND SCHOOL ARE BETTER FOR IT. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT THIS EVENING IS OLIVIA EVANS. COMING TO US FROM WYLIE EAST HIGH SCHOOL. AND THIS. OH, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SENIOR NEXT YEAR. JUST FINISHED BEING A JUNIOR. AND THIS IS FROM MRS. CASSIE KLEYKAMP. OLIVIA IS ALWAYS CHEERING ON EVERYONE IN THE FFA CHAPTER AT WYLIE EAST. IN ADDITION TO MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, SHE IS ALWAYS THERE TO CELEBRATE THE WINS WITH EVERYONE. SHE ALSO LENDS A COMPASSIONATE EAR TO THOSE WHO NEED IT. IF A HYPE GIRL IS NEEDED, OLIVIA IS THAT GIRL. WYLIE EAST IS GRATEFUL FOR OLIVIA EVANS. CONGRATULATIONS. FOR THREE WORKSHOPS, YOU MIGHT NEED A GIRL HERE TONIGHT. YEAH, YEAH, SHE'S WELCOME TO STAY. NEXT THIS EVENING IS ADDISON WALKER. [00:25:01] I ACTUALLY HAD A PRINCIPLE BACK WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. LAST NAME? WALKER. SHE IS COMING TO US FROM WYLIE EAST HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL. AND SHE TOO WILL BE ENTERING HER SENIOR YEAR NEXT YEAR. THIS IS FROM MRS. JESSICA GRIFFITH. ADDISON WORKS EXTREMELY HARD IN HER OWN STUDIES, BUT SHE MAKES TIME TO DISPLAY GRATITUDE AND CELEBRATION FOR HER PEERS. SHE ALWAYS HAS GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT HER PEERS, AND SHE TAKES ON LEADERSHIP ROLES AT SCHOOL AND IS A ROLE MODEL FOR HER PEERS AS WELL AS YOUNGER STUDENTS. SHE RADIATES POSITIVITY AND BRINGS THE ABSOLUTE BEST ENERGY TO MY CLASSROOM. CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS! WELL, I KNOW THIS NEXT INDIVIDUAL IS HERE THIS EVENING. NEXT IS LOLA CLAIRE SMITH. SHE LOOKS KIND OF FAMILIAR. SHE? YEAH. CAN YOU TELL SHE IS COMING FROM WYLIE HIGH SCHOOL AND IS JUST FINISHED HER SOPHOMORE YEAR? THIS IS FROM MRS. BRESNAHAN. ROSENHEIM. OKAY. LOLA. CLAIRE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES AN EXCEPTIONAL ATTITUDE, APPROACHING EACH DAY WITH POSITIVITY, KINDNESS, AND A GENUINE WILLINGNESS TO LEARN. SHE CELEBRATES OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CLASSROOM BY WORKING DILIGENTLY ON EVERYTHING SHE DOES. HER WORK IS THOUGHTFUL, DETAILED AND REFLECTIVE OF THE PRIDE SHE TAKES IN HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS. CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT, THIS EVENING WE HAVE BENJAMIN TANG. IS IT TANG? GETTING REALLY TALL ON ME HERE. WELL, HE'S TALL FOR ME, TOO, AT THIS POINT. HE COMES FROM WYLIE HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE JUST FINISHED HIS SENIOR YEAR. CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS COMING TO YOU FROM MR. KOSTERMAN. BEN HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE LEADER FOR THE PERCUSSIONISTS IN THAT WILEY BAND. HE IS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO ARRIVE EVERY DAY. HE HAS FUN WAYS TO MAKE IT FUN TO SHOW UP TO BAND LIKE OPENING OPENING POKEMON CARDS. EVERYONE FEELS WELCOME AND SAFE AROUND HIM. HE WILL BE SERIOUSLY MISSED AND IS LEAVING SOME VERY BIG SHOES TO FILL FOR NEXT YEAR'S SENIORS. CONGRATULATIONS! OKAY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MR. HOOVER MR. WILLIAMS UP HERE. ONE OF THEM WAS ASKING WHAT YOU'RE DOING NEXT YEAR. WHERE ARE YOU GOING? I'M GOING TO OSU FOR PHARMACY. THERE YOU GO. OSU! HANDS UP HERE. WHERE'S OUR CITY MANAGER? OVER THERE. THERE HE IS. GIVE IT BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT THEN. RIGHT THERE ON MY SEAT. YOU'LL MAKE US ALL. AND OUR LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, THIS EVENING IS MIRANDA DOUGAN. LOOKS LIKE SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING. WE KNOW THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE END UP WITH PLANS FOR THE SUMMER, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THAT TO THEM. TO ALL THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT CAME THIS EVENING, AS WELL AS TO DOCTOR SPICER AND MISS SMITH. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING, BECAUSE WE DO SO MUCH CELEBRATION THESE DAYS FOR STUDENTS. WHEN THEY ACHIEVE SOMETHING, CALL IT ON THE FIELD. [00:30:01] I GUESS IT CAN BE ON THE COURT. I PLAYED BASKETBALL, SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN SOMEONE HAS EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, WE CELEBRATE IT WHEN THEY MAKE THE HONOR ROLL OR MAYBE JUST EXCEED OUR EXPECTATIONS, WE CELEBRATE THOSE THOSE THINGS ARE GREAT. THEY'RE THINGS TO DREAM FOR. BUT CHARACTER TRAITS AND DEVELOPING SOMEONE WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A TRUE LEADER IN THE FUTURE IS CRITICAL. ONE DAY, ALL OF US IN HERE ADULTS, ALL OF US COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL OF THE PEOPLE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL GET OLD, AND WE'LL TURN THE REINS OVER TO THE NEXT GENERATION. I WAS GOING TO SAY WE CAN SEE SEVERAL OF THEM HERE FOSTERING AND ENCOURAGING. I DID NOT MAKE THAT COMMENT. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO COME AND TO CELEBRATE EVEN WHEN STUDENTS DON'T NECESSARILY WIN AN AWARD, BUT CELEBRATING THE THINGS THAT THEY DO THAT DEVELOP. THE TYPE OF ADULTS THAT WE WANT THEM TO GROW INTO IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE LONG TERM, THAT IS WHAT WILL DEFINE THE PERSON THAT THEY BECOME. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING AND JOINING US. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION AND RECOGNITION AFTER THIS FOR LEADERSHIP. [PR2. Leadership Wylie Class XXII. ] WILEY. BUT IF YOU DO NEED TO GO, WE UNDERSTAND. SO I WILL GIVE EVERYONE JUST A MINUTE. I KNOW IT'S SUMMER. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE YOUNGER ONES. IF YOU WANT TO STAY FOR LEADERSHIP, WILEY'S PRESENTATION OR THE COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC INVITE YOU TO DO SO. OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE UP AND DOWN DURING THE NEXT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THAT? WHAT WAS THAT MOVIE HUNGER GAMES. I'LL PUT IT OUT THERE AND TELL Y'ALL THE ODDS. MAY BE. MAY THE ODDS BE EVER IN YOUR FAVOR. OKAY, AT LEAST AT LEAST EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE JOKE, RIGHT? DID WE FIGURE OUT WHOSE IT IS? NO WORRIES. ALRIGHT, SO I WILL INVITE TINA IF YOU WANT TO COME JOIN ME. SO THIS EVENING WE ARE CELEBRATING THE COMPLETION AND GRADUATION OF ANOTHER LEADERSHIP WILEY CLASS. HEY, WHERE'S THAT GAVEL AT? BUT IN DOING SO, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE ALL THAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DOES TO PUT THIS ON AND TO MAKE THIS VALUABLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. TO THOSE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CLASS AND GIVEN OF YOUR TIME, MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS THIS DON'T LET THAT BE THE END OF YOUR TIME. FIND A WAY TO BE PLUGGED IN. IF YOU'RE NOT ON A BOARD AND YOU'RE ELIGIBLE. [00:35:03] APPLY IN THE FUTURE. IT'S TOO LATE NOW. IT CLOSED ON THE 15TH. I WARNED EVERYONE MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT EVEN IF THAT'S NOT YOUR CALLING OR MAYBE YOU DON'T QUALIFY, THERE IS A WAY FOR YOU TO GIVE BACK. THAT MIGHT BE WITH A NONPROFIT HERE IN TOWN. THAT MIGHT BE BY VOLUNTEERING AT AN EVENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET PLUGGED BACK INTO YOUR COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN. NOW YOU'VE INVESTED IN YOURSELF AS A LEADER. TRUE LEADERSHIP IS SERVICE. DON'T FORGET THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, AND I KNOW IN LOOKING AT THE FACES HERE THAT YOU WON'T. BUT THAT IS MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS IF YOU ARE ALREADY GIVING BACK, CONTINUE. AND IF YOU ARE NOT, FIND THAT PLACE THAT MATCHES YOUR PASSIONS AND ALLOWS YOU TO GIVE FREELY FROM YOUR HEART. WITH THAT BEING SAID, TINA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEADERSHIP WILEY, AND THEN I'LL HAVE YOU CALL YOUR GRADUATES DOWN ONE AT A TIME. WE'LL GIVE THEM EACH A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING, AND THEN I'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION ONCE THEY'RE ALL HERE. OKAY. SO THIS WAS CLASS 22, AND WE. SO THAT MEANS THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 22 YEARS. AND EVERY YEAR IS A DIFFERENT CLASS, DIFFERENT PEOPLE, DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES. BUT THE CLASS DURING THE NINE MONTHS THAT THEY ARE PART OF THIS PROGRAM, THEY LEARN ABOUT ALL DIFFERENT FACETS OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN THEY ALSO VISIT ENTITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY. WE DO A DAY AT IN AUSTIN, AND THEY GET TO WITNESS OR BE A PART OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES. SO IT'S A VERY UNIQUE PROGRAM AND YOU SEE A VERY UNIQUE SIDE OF THE OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO BE ENRICHED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. AND THE CHAMBER IS VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE EVERYONE? OKAY. WHOEVER IS HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ME ON THE FLOOR. YEAH. OKAY. I CAN JUST CALL. YOU CAN JUST CALL THEM ALL DOWN AT ONCE, IF YOU PREFER. SO WOULD CLASS 22 PLEASE COME FORWARD? SO WHAT I WILL DO INSTEAD IS I WILL KEEP THE MICROPHONE HERE. AND I WILL ASK YOU, WE'RE GOING TO. DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT A SNAKE IS? FRONT COMES TO THE BACK. MOVE ONE FORWARD. I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU CAN TELL US IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN IN THE COMMUNITY, BE IT BUSINESS AND OR NONPROFIT VOLUNTEER RELATED. AND I WILL LET YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF THAT WAY AND HAND YOU YOUR PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. CHRISTIE STEWART WILEY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I'M CINDY TURNER, I OWN TURNER DESIGN COMPANY, BUT I ALSO SERVE ON THE PARKS AND REC BOARD AND VOLUNTEER FOR AS MANY EVENTS THAT THEY OFFER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND IT'S SO MUCH FUN. IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING A BOARD, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. I'M SUSAN CRANFORD, I OWN TEXAS FAST POOL. I'M ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD. I'M THE WILEY AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AMBASSADOR CHAIR, AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR HORSES FOR HOPE. WHY DON'T YOU FIND A WAY TO VOLUNTEER? ANGELA RAMIREZ AND I AM THE COORDINATOR FOR THIS YEAR'S LEADERSHIP. WILEY AND HAVE AGREED TO GO ON TO NEXT YEAR. I OWN THE SOCIAL SCRIPT HERE IN WILEY. I AM AN AMBASSADOR AND ALSO VOLUNTEER WITH BOB LOAVES. HI, I AM PAULA ZAMOLO AND THROUGH THIS PROGRAM I HAVE BEEN INSPIRED TO BECOME THE BUSINESS CONSULTANT. THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT WE LEARNED THROUGH THIS, AND IT HAS SHIFTED ME FORWARD TO DOING MY OWN THING. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. I AM JACKIE TOBER. I OWN PROVEN NATIONAL TITLE AND PROVEN SUITES HERE IN WYLIE, AND I LIKE TO MAKE ALL THESE GUYS UP HERE SWEAT WHEN I WALK IN THE ROOM BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, OH GOSH, WHAT'S SHE GOING TO SAY? AND YOU GAVE ME A MIC. OH, I'M AN AMBASSADOR FOR THE WYLIE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I AM A SERIAL, I THINK IS WHAT THEY WOULD CALL IT. VOLUNTEER. SO IF YOU EVER NEED SOMEBODY TO VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING, I'M PROBABLY THAT PERSON. I'M VERY GOOD AT HELPING OTHERS FIND MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND I HAVE A HUGE, VAST ARRAY OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT BUSINESS OWNERS. SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANY OF THAT, HOLLER AT ME. I PROBABLY CAN CONNECT YOU WITH WHEREVER THAT IS. AND I'M JUST A BUSINESS CONNECTOR, SO THANK YOU. [00:40:03] MY NAME IS SANDRA STONE. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WILEY CEMETERY ASSOCIATION. I ALSO SERVE ON THE HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION, THE BOARD, AND TO COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF WILEY. AND I LIVE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN A HISTORIC HOME. IT IS THE GORGEOUS CRAFTSMAN THAT IS DOWNTOWN. I WON'T GIVE OUT YOUR ADDRESS, THOUGH I CAN VERIFY SHE HAS A GREAT FRONT PORCH SWING THOUGH. I'M CARRIE JO WITH FIRE BOSS REALTY AND I HAVE THREE SMALL KIDS. WE GET AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN AND GIVE BACK WHERE WE CAN APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. I'M DESTINY LACEY. I'M THE OWNER OF THE OLDEST RETAIL BUSINESS IN WYLIE, THE WYLIE FLOWER SHOP. WHEN YOU THINK OF FLOWERS, THINK OF OURS. THANK YOU. JACKIE. I ALSO AM INVOLVED WITH EVERY NONPROFIT I CAN, WHETHER IT'S BASED IN A SUPPORTING THEIR GALAS AND DONATING FLOWERS OR VOLUNTEER TIME. AND I AM IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING TO SERVE ON A BOARD THAT I'M SO EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL SOON. THAT IS IN THE WORKINGS NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M ROBIN NORMAN, CLASS LIAISON FOR THIS CLASS. I WORK FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE PARKS AND RECREATION. I VOLUNTEER AS VICE PRESIDENT FOR WYLIE POLICE CLUB AND WITH THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, AND THEN A COUPLE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. AND WE SAVED THE BEST FOR THE LAST TIME. BY THE WAY, MY NAME IS SUNIL. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. LET'S SEE, I'M REPRESENTING CHILDREN'S HEALTH OVER HERE, AND SO IT'S BEEN AN HONOR BEING PART OF THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. I'VE SERVED ON THE INITIAL, VERY FIRST WILEY CITIZENS PATROL WHEN DONNA WAS HERE. SO I WAS THERE. I ALSO SERVED ON THE CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS, AND I WAS ALSO GRADUATED FROM CERT ACADEMY. AND I'M STILL PRESENTLY WITH THE COLLIN COUNTY MEDICAL RESERVE. SO IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. LET'S HEAR IT FOR ALL OF OUR GRADUATES. IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE A FEW EXTRA. WE'LL KEEP TRYING TO PICK UP. SO WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION, WHICH THEY ALL RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS EVENING. WHEREAS THE CITY OF WILEY PROUDLY RECOGNIZES THE OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE WILEY AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP WILEY PROGRAM AND CELEBRATES THE GRADUATING MEMBERS OF LEADERSHIP WILEY CLASS 22 FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND WHEREAS THE LEADERSHIP WILEY PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED TO MOTIVATE AND ENCOURAGE CIVIC LEADERSHIP WHILE DEVELOPING PERSONAL LEADERSHIP CHARACTERISTICS AND SKILLS THAT STRENGTHEN BOTH INDIVIDUALS AND THE GREATER WILEY COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM, PARTICIPANTS HAVE ENGAGED IN HANDS ON LEADERSHIP TRAINING, EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES, AND MEANINGFUL COLLABORATION WITH LOCAL LEADERS, AGENCIES AND NONPROFITS, INCLUDING THE STATE OF TEXAS, WILEY ISD, COLLIN COLLEGE, THE CITY OF WILEY, WILEY FIRE RESCUE, WILEY POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE COLLIN COUNTY CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER. AND WHEREAS, THE MEMBERS OF LEADERSHIP WILEY CLASS 22 HAVE DEMONSTRATED A COMMITMENT TO SERVANT LEADERSHIP BY ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, WHILE BUILDING LASTING RELATIONSHIPS AND PROFESSIONAL CONNECTIONS THAT WILL POSITIVELY IMPACT WILEY FOR YEARS TO COME. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF WILEY RECOGNIZES THAT PROGRAMS SUCH AS LEADERSHIP WILEY HELP CULTIVATE THE NEXT GENERATION OF INFORMED, SOCIALLY CONSCIOUS, AND CIVICALLY ENGAGED LEADERS WHO WILL CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO THE GROWTH, PROSPERITY, AND BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE WILEY CITY COUNCIL AND CITIZENS OF WILEY ON THIS, THE 26TH DAY OF MAY 2026. AM HONORED TO RECOGNIZE THE GRADUATING MEMBERS OF LEADERSHIP WILEY CLASS 22 IN THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AND COMMEND EACH GRADUATE OF LEADERSHIP WILEY CLASS 22 FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, SERVICE, AND COMMITMENT TO MAKING WILEY A STRONGER AND MORE VIBRANT COMMUNITY. CONGRATULATIONS. CRAIG. DO YOU WANT US TO. ALRIGHT. YOU GUYS KNOW HOW IT WORKS. WE'RE GOING TO DO A GROUP PHOTO. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GET IN HERE ON THE LINE. THOSE WHO ARE NOT AS TALL WILL BE IN THE FRONT. [00:45:49] WE MADE A MISTAKE ON OUR GRADUATION RATE. TWO AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS THIS EVENING. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO CITIZENS PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. [COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS ] IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT THIS EVENING WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE DO ASK THAT YOU COME AND SIGN A FORM BEFORE THE MEETING, AND WE DO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES AS AN INDIVIDUAL SIX IF OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP. WE REMIND EVERYONE UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ANY ISSUE NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS AND ISSUES REGARDING CITY BUSINESS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MISS STORM, I BELIEVE WE HAD THREE FORMS TURNED IN THIS EVENING. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I WILL CALL THOSE IN THE ORDER THAT I RECEIVED THEM. WHEN YOU COME FORWARD FIRST INDIVIDUAL, IF YOU'LL THERE'LL BE A LITTLE HEAD WITH SOME LINES COMING OUT THAT TURNS THE MICROPHONE ON. IF YOU'LL START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU'LL THEN HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL I HAVE THIS EVENING IS COOPER. LET. HI, MY NAME IS COOPER. LET. WE LIVE AT 640 OAKBROOK DRIVE IN WYLIE. WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE TEN YEARS AGO FOR THE SPACE AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE PARK, SO THAT OUR KIDS WOULD HAVE MORE ROOM TO PLAY, AND MY WIFE AND I COULD TURN THE BACKYARD INTO A RETREAT AND JUST ENJOY THE PROPERTY. 75FT FROM OUR, OUR PROPERTY LINE. THE PICKLEBALL COURT HAS INTRODUCED SOME EXTREME LIGHT AND NOISE POLLUTION THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY HAVING SOME ADVERSE HEALTH IMPACTS ON OUR MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING AS WELL AS IMPACTING SOME OF THE FAMILIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SECTION 7.9 OF THE WYLIE ZONING ORDINANCE DESCRIBES THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONTROL OF NOISE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN A COMMUNITY, AND ACKNOWLEDGES THAT EXCESSIVE EXPOSURE TO THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS CAN ADVERSELY AFFECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRESSURE FROM THE PICKLEBALL PADDLES IS PERMEATING INSIDE OF OUR HOME, AND MY PREGNANT WIFE AND I ARE EXPERIENCING EMOTIONAL MOOD SWINGS, IRRITABILITY. WE HAVE TO SLEEP WITH SOUND MACHINES. WE CAN'T FOCUS ON CONVERSATION. IF WE WANT TO READ A BOOK, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 10 P.M. WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE OFF AND THE PICKLEBALL STOPPED FROM OUR BACK PATIO, WHICH IS OVER 150FT FROM THE COURT. WE'VE MEASURED THE DECIBEL LEVELS AT 58. AND FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE, WE'VE MEASURED BETWEEN 65 TO 90DB. NOT ONLY DOES THE SOUND OF PADDLES CAUSE THIS DISTRESS, BUT THERE'S ALSO EXCESSIVE AND EXTREME PROFANITY COMING FROM THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS AND THE AMPLIFIED PORTABLE MUSIC THEY BRING WITH THEM. WE DO OUR BEST TO GUARD WHAT OUR KIDS CONSUME WITH THEIR EARS. AND SO WE DO ADDRESS THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS WHEN THIS OCCURS. AND THEY, THEY'RE RESPECTFUL AND THEY, THEY'LL STOP. BUT IT IS A PERVASIVE BEHAVIOR. ADDITIONALLY, THE LIGHTS ARE SO BRIGHT, HALF OF OUR BACKYARD IS SO ILLUMINATED THAT IT'S LIKE DAYTIME OUT THERE. THERE'S NO PROGRESSION OF DAYTIME FROM 6 A.M. WHEN THE SUN RISES TO SUNSET. THE LED LIGHTS KIND OF GET RID OF THE DAYTIME. WE CAN'T CAMP OUT BACK WITH OUR KIDS, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THE SOUND AND THE LIGHTS. SO WE'RE MISSING OUT ON SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES WE'RE USED TO. SECTION 7.1 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE DESCRIBES THE INTENTION TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE INTEGRITY, ENJOYMENT AND PROPERTY VALUES OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. UNFORTUNATELY, ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN ERODED AS WE'RE FORCED BACK INSIDE AND CAN'T ENJOY THE PROPERTY AT NIGHT. OUR REALTOR HAS TOLD US THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUE HAS HAS DECREASED. IF WE WANTED TO SELL, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO, WE LOVE WILEY AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED HERE. 250 YEARS AGO, THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID ALMOST THE SAME THING THAT'S IN SECTION 7.9, BECAUSE HE UNDERSTOOD THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS TO PURSUE HAPPINESS. AND HE SAID TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG MEN. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR Y'ALL'S HELP NOW FOR SOME SORT OF SOLUTION JUST TO RESTORE OUR MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING. [00:50:05] IF WE'RE NOT DOING GREAT, IF I'M BEING HONEST. AND SO WE JUST NEED HELP FOR SOME SORT OF SOLUTION, WHETHER THAT'S MOVING PICKLEBALL COURT LOCATIONS, DAMPENING THE LIGHT, PUTTING UP SOUND BARRIERS, HEDGES, REGULATING THE HOURS. SO THERE'S SOME RELIEF FOR THOSE FEW OF US THAT LIVE WITHIN PROXIMITY TO THE COURT. WE JUST WANT TO TAKE CARE. I WANT TO, I, MY GOAL IS JUST REALLY TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY, PROTECT MY WIFE, PROTECT THE CHILD OF MY KIDS. AND WE NEED SOME HELP. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OUR SECOND SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS RUSHDIE GOSWAMI, AND THEY ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A GROUP, BAPS CHARITIES. SO YOU WILL HAVE SIX TOTAL MINUTES IF YOU WISH AND WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. AS AS YOU ARE. I'M GOING TO ASSUME UNDER THE AGE OF 18. I WILL NOT ASK FOR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AS YOU ARE A MINOR. SO YOU. IF YOU WISH TO GIVE YOUR FIRST NAME. IF YOUR PARENTS ARE OKAY WITH THAT, YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. BUT I DON'T NEED YOU TO DO THAT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. SO YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. GOOD EVENING, RESPECTED MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RUCHI GOSWAMI, AND I AM HONORED TO STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS A PROUD CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF WYLIE AND A DEDICATED VOLUNTEER FOR THE BAPS CHARITIES. FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT KNOW US, BAPS CHARITIES IS A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION OPERATED IN NINE COUNTRIES OVER FIVE CONTINENTS. EACH YEAR, OVER 100,000 DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN 12,000,000 HOURS OF SELFLESS SERVICE. WITH OVER 50 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE HERE IN NORTH AMERICA, WE ARE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO UPLIFTING INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES BY ADDRESSING CRITICAL NEEDS IN HEALTH CARE, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, DISASTER RELIEF AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. OUR COMMITMENT GOES FAR BEYOND JUST A SINGLE DAY. OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE CONSISTENTLY ON THE GROUND ORGANIZING FOOD DRIVES, BLOOD DONATION CAMPS, AND TOY DRIVES. WHEN DISASTER STRIKES, WE ARE THERE. WE HAVE PROVIDED VITAL HUMANITARIAN AID DURING THE LOS ANGELES WILDFIRES AND HURRICANE MILTON AND HELEN. BUT TONIGHT I AM HERE TO SHARE SOMETHING WE ARE BRINGING TO OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. AFTER A 23 YEAR JOURNEY OF ORGANIZING WALKS OVER NORTH TEXAS TO BENEFIT LOCAL NONPROFITS, WE ARE INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO HOST THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL BAPS CHARITIES WALK SLASH RUN. THIS MASSIVE COMMUNITY DRIVEN EVENT WILL BRING TOGETHER OVER 1500 PARTICIPANTS AT THE LEVI EVENT PLAZA IN IRVING, TEXAS ON SUNDAY, MAY 31ST, 2025 AT 8 A.M.. OUR WALK SLASH RUN IS PART OF A NATIONWIDE INITIATIVE SPANNING OVER 100 CITIES, WITH OVER 50,000 WALKERS DESIGNED TO FOSTER A SPIRIT OF UNITY AND SERVICE. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE WALK WITH A PURPOSE. ALONG WITH ITS OWN INITIATIVES, WE ARE IMMENSELY PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THREE OUTSTANDING LOCAL BENEFICIARIES FOR THIS EVENT. OUR FIRST BENEFICIARY IS CHILDREN'S HEALTH. TO SUPPORT THEIR 110 YEAR MISSION OF PROVIDING ADVANCED PEDIATRIC CARE AND SAVING CHILDREN'S LIVES. THE SECOND BENEFICIARY IS THE MAIN PLACE ORGANIZATION. WE ARE SUPPORTING THEIR VITAL WORK TO UPLIFTING HOMELESS TEENS, VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC CRISIS AND FAMILIES IN CRISIS. WE. THIS YEAR'S THIRD BENEFICIARY IS METTA CRAFT SERVICES. WE ARE SUPPORTING THE ESSENTIAL EFFORTS TO HELP INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND SENIORS IN OUR OWN AREA NAVIGATE THROUGH THEIR CRISIS AND STABILIZE THEIR LIFE FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE. I WARMLY INVITE YOU, OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF WYLIE TO SAVE THIS DATE ON YOUR CALENDAR. YOUR PRESENCE AND SUPPORT WOULD MEAN THE WORLD TO US. BY PARTICIPATING, YOU ARE NOT ONLY EMBRACING A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE, BUT JOINING A COMMUNITY DEDICATED TO THE SPIRIT OF SERVICE. YOUR INVOLVEMENT IS CRUCIAL AND EVERY STEP YOU TAKE MAKES A DIFFERENCE. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR WORK OR TO REGISTER FOR THE EVENT, PLEASE VISIT BAPS CHARITIES.ORG/DALLAS. ON BEHALF OF CHARITIES, I SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALLOWING US TO SHARE THIS EXCITING EVENT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND OUR THIRD FORM THIS EVENING IS MISS SHARON MENDEZ. AND IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. SHARON MENDEZ AND I LIVE AT 650 OAKBROOK DRIVE, AND I AM JUST BRINGING SOME CONCERNS ON THE COMMUNITY PARK PICKLEBALL. I WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME AND COMMUNITY FOR 27 YEARS FOR. NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO ORIGINAL HOMEOWNERS FOR 20 TO 27 YEARS. SO WE WERE THERE WHEN ALL THE FIELDS WERE ALL AROUND US. ALL OUR HOMES ARE AFFECTED BY THE NEWLY ADDED PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OR REQUESTED IN ANY WRITING OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE PHASES OF THE PICKLEBALL. THE LIGHTING, THE EXPENSE OF IT. THE TAXPAYERS WEREN'T NOTIFIED EITHER. MY CONCERN IS THE ONGOING NOISE POLLUTION LEVELS FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE COMMUNITY PARK AND THE INTRUSIVE, [00:55:06] EXCESSIVE LIGHTING, WHICH EXTENDS BEYOND THE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN OUR BACK YARD, WHICH INTERFERES WITH OUR PROPERTY ENJOYMENT AND SLEEP PATTERNS. I CAN HEAR THE PICKLEBALL JARRING POP SOUNDS INSIDE THE KITCHEN, LIVING ROOM, AND BEDROOM STARTING STATED IN NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS AND LAWSUITS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. RESIDENTS NEAR PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHICH INCLUDE OUR SITUATION AND HOMES, CAN CAN EXPERIENCE 20,000 TO 40,000 INDIVIDUAL NOISE EVENTS PER DAY ACROSS 12 TO 15 HOURS OF PICKLEBALL PLAY. A SINGLE STRIKE CAN BE 20 TO 25DB LOUDER THAN TENNIS, AND IT HAPPENS UP TO 900 TIMES PER HOUR PER COURT. JUST FOUR PICKLEBALL COURTS AND YOU CAN HEAR 3600 SHARP PICKLEBALL SOUNDS, A HIGH FREQUENCY IMPULSIVE EVERY HOUR, AND THERE ARE SIX COURTS WITH 24 OR MORE PEOPLE PLAYING AT ONE TIME. THE ACOUSTIC EQUIVALENT OF A CAR BACKFIRING. THE DIFFERENCE LIES IN THE EQUIPMENT THE PADDLE. UNLIKE THE STRINGS OF A TENNIS RACKET, WHICH ABSORBS ENERGY. A HARD PICKLEBALL PADDLE ACTS AS THE SOUNDBOARD, PROJECTING NOISE OUTWARD. THE HARD PLASTIC BALL CREATES A HIGH FREQUENCY POP UPON IMPACT. SOUND RADIATES IN ALL DIRECTIONS RATHER THAN IN A STRAIGHT LINE. NOISE WILL GO OVER THE TOP AND EXCEED TEN FOOT VINYL, ACOUSTIC FENCE PANELS, AND SIMILAR PRODUCTS. COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM, THESE SOUNDS FALL SQUARELY IN THE RANGE WHERE HUMAN HEARING IS MOST SENSITIVE IN YOUR HEARING, PERCEIVES IT LOUDER THAN THE DECIMAL LEVELS, SUGGESTS THAT PSYCHOLOGICALLY, THEY TRIGGER THE BODY'S FIGHT TO FLIGHT RESPONSE. OVER TIME, FATIGUE, INABILITY, AND DISRUPTION OF SLEEP CAN LEAD TO HEALTH ISSUES. I REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER MEASURES SETTING LIMITS. WE AND TO WORK WITH US IN SETTING THOSE LIMITS THAT WILL HELP US AND HELP THE PLAYERS. WE HAVE ALSO NOTICED INCREASED SAFETY CONCERNS IN THE PARK, THE CREEK AND PEOPLE TRESPASSING ON OUR PROPERTIES TO ACCESS THE COURTS AND THE COMMUNITY PARK AREA. I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL INCIDENCES POLICE CARS AND POLICE OFFICERS BETWEEN 10 P.M. AND MIDNIGHT ADDRESSING LOUD NOISES. PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO LEAVE LIGHTS ON. AND WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING ON THERE. THE NOISE PROBLEM IS REAL AND IT IS BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY NATIONALLY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND IN TEXAS. NATIONALLY, COURTS ARE BEING PERMITTED PERMANENTLY CLOSED, AND LAWSUITS ARE PILING UP THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE HAVE IMPOSED RESTRICTION TIMES AND NO PLAY BETWEEN BEFORE 8 A.M. AND AFTER 7:08 P.M. AND DAYS OF THE WEEK LIMITS. I WILL HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP UP AS YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. OKAY I AM. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING US AND JUST LETTING US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF A PARK RECREATION, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY PEACE AND ENJOYMENT OF THEIR OWN HOMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS STORM, I BELIEVE THOSE WERE ALL OF THE FORMS THAT WERE TURNED IN FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE FROM CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS AND MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA ] COUNCIL STAFF, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE WHICH YOU WISH POLLED FOR INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATION? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN HOOVER, I SECOND. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. FROM THERE, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE THIS EVENING. [1. Interview applicants for Board of Review vacancies for a term to begin July 1, 2026 and end June 30, 2028. ] ITEM ONE IS TO INTERVIEW APPLICANTS FOR THE BOARD OF REVIEW VACANCIES FOR A TERM THAT WILL BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2026, ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2028. I WILL CALL EVERYONE ON HERE. I KNOW ONLY A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS HAVE RESPONDED THAT THEY WOULD FOR SURE BE HERE THIS EVENING, BUT I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY. FIRST UP THIS EVENING WOULD BE AMANDA SMITH. IF YOU'LL HIT THE SPEAKER AHEAD AGAIN FOR US THERE. THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMANDA SMITH. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF WYLIE FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS NOW. [01:00:05] I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY INTEREST IN SERVING THE CITY OF WYLIE AND COUNCIL BOARD CAPACITY WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, OR WHICHEVER YOU SEE FIT. AS THE WYLIE RESIDENT FOR NEARLY 16 YEARS, MOTHER OF THREE WITH TWO CHILDREN STILL IN WYLIE ISD AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL WORKING IN THE DFW AREA, I AM DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE CONTINUED GROWTH, SUSTAINABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. WITH MY BACKGROUND HAVING WORKED IN LAND SURVEYING SINCE 16 YEARS OF AGE AND NOW AS A CONTRACT AND BOND ADMINISTRATOR FOR DFW LAND SERVICES, I POSSESS A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE. MY EXPERIENCE WORKING ALONGSIDE ENGINEERS, MUNICIPALITIES, CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS AND OTHER PROJECT STAKEHOLDERS HAS GIVEN ME VALUABLE INSIGHT INTO HOW THOUGHTFUL PLANNING AND RESPONSIBLE DECISION MAKING DIRECTLY IMPACT BOTH TAXPAYERS AND LONG TERM COMMUNITY SUCCESS. I AM PARTICULARLY PASSIONATE ABOUT ENSURING THAT WILEY'S GROWTH IS STRATEGIC, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND ALIGNED WITH THE NEEDS OF CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO EXPAND AT SUCH A RAPID PACE, I BELIEVE IT IS CRITICAL TO BALANCE DEVELOPMENT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE READINESS, MAINTAIN TRANSPARENCY AND DECISION MAKING, AND PRESERVE THE CHARACTER THAT MAKES WILEY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK. IN MY CURRENT PROFESSIONAL ROLE, I REGULARLY MANAGE COMPLEX DOCUMENTATION CONTRACTS, COORDINATE ACROSS MULTIPLE PARTIES, AND ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND HIGH IMPACT PROJECTS, STARTING FROM FEASIBILITY STUDIES TO CONSTRUCTION, CLOSEOUT PROCESS, AND BOND SALES. THESE RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE STRENGTHENED MY ATTENTION TO DETAIL, ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS, AND ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY. QUALITIES IN WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ESSENTIAL FOR SERVING IN A PUBLIC CAPACITY, EVEN POSSESSING OVER 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND LAND SURVEYING INDUSTRY, I AM STILL DRIVEN BY A THIRST FOR LEARNING NEW IDEAS AND SKILL SETS. BEYOND MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, I'M COMMITTED TO LISTENING AND TO AND REPRESENTING THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY. I APPROACH LEADERSHIP WITH A COLLABORATIVE MINDSET AND FOCUS ON PRACTICAL, SOLUTIONS ORIENTED OUTCOMES THAT BENEFIT THE CITY AS A WHOLE. I REALLY ENJOY HELPING OTHERS NETWORKING, CONNECTING NEW RELATIONSHIPS, AND DISCOVERING NEW BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. IT WOULD BE AN HONOR TO CONTRIBUTE MY EXPERIENCE, PERSPECTIVE, AND DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF WYLIE. I AM EAGER TO SUPPORT INITIATIVES THAT STRENGTHEN INFRASTRUCTURE, PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, AND ENHANCE THE OVERALL WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT ANSWERS OUR GENERAL START OF TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF BACKGROUND. OKAY. DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. OF COURSE, TONIGHT IS CENTERED ON THE BOARD OF REVIEW. I BELIEVE YOU PROBABLY HAVE AN INTERVIEW TIME LATER THIS WEEK. THAT PANEL WILL TALK ABOUT THE OTHER BOARDS WITH YOU. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO ASK PEOPLE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE BOARD OF REVIEW, DO YOU WHAT, WHAT UNDERSTANDING DO YOU HAVE OF, OF THE ROLE THAT THAT BOARD PLAYS? I DO UNDERSTAND HAVING WORKED WITH MANY CITIES YOU KNOW, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUILDING SETBACK LINES, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAVE A, YOU KNOW, FENCE ISSUE OR, OR STRUCTURE THAT IS BUILT OVER A BUILDING LINE. WELL, IN THIS CASE, IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE KIND OF A WEIRD NOMENCLATURE. SO WE HAVE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS WHICH HANDLES THAT. AND WE HAVE P AND Z. THE PLANNING AND ZONING. THE BOARD OF REVIEW IS TRULY IN CHARGE IN MANY PLACES MIGHT BE CALLED AN ETHICS BOARD. OKAY. SO OUR BOARD OF REVIEW IS FOCUSED ON HOLDING COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS APPOINTED BOARD MEMBERS ETHICALLY RESPONSIBLE IF A COMPLAINT IS FOUND ABOUT THEM TO BE ABLE TO GO IN, INVESTIGATE THAT WITH AN IMPARTIAL MIND AND SEE IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO IT DOESN'T MEET REGULARLY, THANKFULLY. I DON'T THINK IT HAS MET IN THE LAST. I WON'T TRY TO REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS, BUT IT HAS. IT DOESN'T MEET REGULARLY, WHICH HOPEFULLY IS A GOOD REFLECTION UPON THOSE WHO'VE BEEN CHOSEN TO SERVE. BUT IT DOES ELIMINATE YOU FROM CONSIDERATION IF YOU GET APPOINTED FROM ANOTHER BOARD. WE DO REQUIRE EXCLUSIVITY FOR THAT BOARD BECAUSE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BE SITTING, I SAY IN JUDGMENT IN, IN A DECISION MAKING PROCESS WITH SOMEONE FROM A BOARD. SO WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO BE LOOKING AT THE PERSON TO THEIR RIGHT WHO NOW HAS TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WOULD YOU STILL BE INTERESTED IN THE BOARD OF REVIEW? NOW, FROM THAT, I WOULD ASK YOU THIS. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PROCESS TO EVALUATE A POTENTIAL COMPLAINT AGAINST WHETHER IT'S A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR IT'S A MEMBER OF A BOARD IN A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL MANNER FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES. [01:05:08] PULL UP, DO MY HOMEWORK, PULL UP THE, THE LAWS AND THE HR CODE, YOU KNOW, CODE OF CONDUCT. IT'S REALLY BLACK AND WHITE. BUT FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SEE IT FROM A, ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. SO AND FROM AN UNBIASED, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE TO TRY TO GATHER ALL INFORMATION AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT. OKAY. ANOTHER THAT I WOULD ASK EVERYONE THAT'S COMING BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS DO YOU HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTERESTS INVESTMENTS, COMMITMENTS THAT YOU THINK WOULD CREATE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN BEING ABLE TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD. I KNOW YOU CAN'T FORESEE EVERYTHING, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, TYPICALLY IT POPS RIGHT UP AND YOU KNOW RIGHT AWAY THAT COULD CREATE A PROBLEM. YES, SIR. OKAY. NOW AGAIN, I KNOW THAT IT IS NOT OFTEN A LOT OF TIME WITH THAT BOARD. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU DO GET CALLED ON, IS IT VERY SERIOUS UNDERTAKING? I WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANKS, MAYOR. MISS SMITH, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AND THANKS FOR SHOWING INTEREST ON SERVING ON OUR BOARDS. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH IN YOUR CURRENT ROLE? DO YOU MANAGE IS THERE PEOPLE THAT YOU MANAGE OR THEY'RE UNDER YOUR SUPERVISION? CURRENTLY I, OR HAVE YOU HAD. YES. PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN UNDER YOUR SUPERVISION? YES, I HAVE MANAGED I WAS AN OFFICE MANAGER FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY YEARS, BUT ON AND OFF FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS. FOR LAND SURVEYING COMPANY. CURRENTLY, I WORK AS A CONTRACT AND BOND ADMINISTRATOR FOR DFW LAND SERVICES. SO MY MY COMPANY IS HOUSTON BASED COMPANY. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 90 YEARS, BUT WE'VE EXPANDED TO DFW. SO I AM HELPING THE DIRECTOR OF OUR OFFICE DIRECTOR. HE'S ALSO AN ENGINEER. I'M HELPING HIM BUILD OUR DALLAS OFFICE BASICALLY. SO I'M THE LIAISON WHO IS GOING BETWEEN HOUSTON AND DALLAS, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING REPLICATED THE SAME WAY HERE AS FAR AS PROCESSES. AND WOULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH A. I DON'T KNOW, ONE OF YOUR LAND SURVEYORS DID NOT LOOK AT THE LAND IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER OR HAS MISSED SOME OF THE LINES OR WHATEVER. YOU MAY LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LAND SURVEY. AND THERE IS A CUSTOMER THAT'S REALLY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE ISSUE OR SOMETHING IS GOING ON IN ONE OF YOUR TEAM MEMBERS HAS NOT DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE PART OF IT. WOULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH YOUR EXPERIENCE ON HOW YOU WOULD HANDLE THAT AND WHAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN? SURE. I HAVE COME ACROSS THIS BEFORE IN MY, MY EXPERIENCE, MY PAST EXPERIENCE AND HAVE GONE TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING FOR REPRESENTING MY FIRM TO HAVE APPROVAL TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR BUILDING LINE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE THERE WAS A WALL BUILT OVER THE BUILDING LINE ON A ZERO LOT LINE. SO THOUGH IT WAS NOT SO MUCH PUT ON MY COMPANY, WE STILL TOOK OUR INITIATIVE TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. AND WE, WE WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AND MADE SURE THAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH. THANK YOU. YEAH, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR VOLUNTEERING. I KNOW BEING THE FIRST IS REALLY HARD. I'VE SAT THROUGH SEVERAL OF THESE. AND ONCE YOU'RE PAST THE FIRST. AND IT'S JUST A WHOLE LOT EASIER AFTER THAT BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE GETS AN IDEA OF WHAT WAS COMING. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING FIRST. I REALIZE YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE IT, BUT YOU'RE TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT I WANTED TO, TO ASK BECAUSE MY CONFIDANTS UP HERE, I'VE BEEN REALLY GOOD AT THE QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT WHAT I NEED FROM, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW YOU WOULD APPROACH THINGS. BUT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS BOARD OR THESE BOARD POSITIONS, IF YOU'RE NOT CHOSEN, WHAT IS YOUR NEXT, YOU KNOW, SECOND AND THIRD BOARD BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY'LL BE, DOING MORE INTERVIEWS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS COME BACK TO THOSE LISTS, EVEN WHEN WE'VE ALREADY ASSIGNED ONES. WE STILL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR HAVE TIMES THAT PEOPLE HAVE RESIGNED, WE RUN OUT OF PEOPLE AND THEN WE COME BACK. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR NUMBER TWO AND, [01:10:04] AND THREE BOARD WOULD BE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO JUST PICK OUT OF THE. HONESTLY, I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO IT. NO. OKAY. YEAH, I'D HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT, BUT OKAY. WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, GET BACK WITH US. SURE, I WILL DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT LOOKS TO BE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU A SECOND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US AS A COUNCIL. NO, I THINK I'M GOOD. OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING THIS EVENING AND BEING WILLING TO, TO STEP UP AND AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OUR SECOND INDIVIDUAL ON MY LIST THIS EVENING IS BONNIE TINSLEY. SHE GOT STUCK IN THE BACK WITH ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING, I BET. SO, MISS TINSLEY, AS MISS SMITH DID BEFORE YOU, IF YOU WOULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, WHY YOU WANT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF REVIEW AND KIND OF ANY RELEVANT EXPERIENCE THAT YOU HAVE TO THAT. OH, IT WAS ON. THERE YOU GO. MY NAME IS BONNIE TINSLEY. I'VE BEEN A WILEY RESIDENT SINCE 2020. I MOVED IN MARCH AND MADE THE BEST DECISION I THINK WE COULD HAVE AND FINDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF CHOICE. THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HELP POUR INTO THE WILEY FARMERS MARKET AND GET MORE INVOLVED IN LESS DIRECT WAYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE FRIENDS, AND I'M LOOKING FOR MORE WAYS TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE CITY. HELP BUILD UP MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE MOMENTUM TO ONE DAY SUPPORTING OTHER ROLES, MAYBE BEHIND A COUNTER IN THE VERY DISTANT, DISTANT FUTURE. BUT TAKING BABY STEPS TO TRY TO FIND THE NEXT BEST WAY THAT I CAN DEDICATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF MY TIME. I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE STARTED OUR FAMILY HERE, AND I ONLY SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP SPENDING MY TIME WISELY AND DIRECTING THAT TOWARDS INTENTIONAL VOLUNTEERING THROUGH EITHER THE BOARD OF REVIEW OR OTHER BOARDS. IF THE BOARD OF REVIEW ISN'T THE RIGHT FIT. OKAY, SO I WANT TO ASK YOU THE SAME TYPE QUESTION OF. OBVIOUSLY AS A MEMBER ETHICAL COMPLAINTS IS, IS THE PURVIEW. AND IF WE'RE ONE, IF ONE WERE TO OCCUR, DO YOU FORESEE HAVING ANY PROBLEMS BEING ABLE TO APPROACH THAT, AND HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THAT IN A WAY TO TRY TO PROVIDE A FAIR HEARING TO BOTH SIDES? I CURRENTLY DON'T SEE ANY FRICTION OR CONCERN THERE. I WAS A POLITICAL SCIENCE BACHELOR'S AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AND GOT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH CONFLICT AS I GRADUATED IN 2017, AND THAT WAS A VERY DIVERSE WELL, IT WAS A DIFFERENT POLITICAL CLIMATE BACK THEN THAN WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN VERY ACQUAINTED WITH OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. UNDERSTANDING OUR COMMUNITY ITSELF HAS GROWN AND HAS BECOME VERY DIVERSE. I'VE FOUND A LOT OF GRACE IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT MY COMMUNITIES AND HOW I CAN EVEN USE THAT KNOWLEDGE TO BETTER PLAY AN IMPARTIAL ROLE. HAVING THE EMPATHY TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY PERSPECTIVE IS GOING TO BE FROM THE PERSON WHO'S SHARING IT, AND WITH THE INTEREST TO LEARN FROM ALL PERSPECTIVES THAT THIS ISN'T JUST A SINGLE PERSON. THANKFULLY, RUNNING THE BOARD OF REVIEW, THAT THERE'S A TEAM HERE THAT CAN HELP LEVERAGE THEIR UNDERSTANDING, EXPERIENCE AND WHAT THE TEXT SAYS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT CONDITION. OKAY. AND I'LL FOLLOW THAT UP WITH A SIMILAR QUESTION. I'LL DO THE SAME THING FOR EVERYONE. DO YOU FORESEE ANY FINANCIAL INVESTMENTS, INTERESTS, COMMITMENTS, ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN BEING ABLE TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD? I DO NOT. OKAY. DON'T EXPECT IT, BUT THERE COULD BE IN SOME SITUATIONS. SO I LIKE TO ASK FAIRLY WITH THAT BEING SAID I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT TO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN PICKENS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN THIS EVENING AND TALKING WITH US. I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO VOLUNTEER. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE. IF YOU COULD TELL ME HOW MANY YEARS OF MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'VE MANAGED. SO IN MOST RECENT YEARS, I'VE BEEN MORE OF A SERVANT LEADER IN MY WORKPLACE. I DID SOME INDIRECT LEADERSHIP ROLES IN THE ROLE BEFORE MY LAST, BUT I'M ACTUALLY MOVING INTO A PEOPLE MANAGER ROLE IN TWO WEEKS, AND I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO PICK THAT BACK UP AS A PART OF MY INDUSTRY NEED. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF ETHICAL DISCUSSION WITH SOMEONE THAT WORKED FOR YOU AND HAD TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT SITUATION, [01:15:03] NOT SOMEBODY WHO REPORTED DIRECTLY TO ME, BUT FOR AN EVENT THAT I WAS MANAGING. WE DID HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DID NOT APPROACH THE RIGHT CODE OF CONDUCT FOR A BUSINESS EVENT WHERE THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE INVOLVED, AND THAT IMPACTED OUR RAPPORT WITHIN OUR TEAM AND WITH OUR CLIENTS. SO I WAS VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION AND, AND INVESTIGATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US THIS EVENING? I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THE TEAM WILL DECIDE. LIKE TO USE THE WORD TEAM BECAUSE I SEE YOU ALL AS VERY INVOLVED AND COLLABORATIVE. HOW YOU WILL DECIDE BETWEEN THE FIVE MAIN BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE BOARD OF REVIEW AND THE TWO ALTERNATES? SO TYPICALLY, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WE WILL FILL THE FULL ROLES FIRST. THEN IF THERE ARE ANY ALTERNATES, WE WILL PLACE SOMEONE INTO THEM. SINCE THIS BOARD DOESN'T HAVE STANDING MEETINGS IT'S NOT UNLIKELY THAT IF THERE WAS A REASON FOR THE BOARD TO MEET, THERE MAY BE SOMEONE WHO CANNOT ATTEND. SO IF SOMEONE CANNOT ATTEND, AN ALTERNATE IS CALLED AT THAT POINT AND ASKED TO ATTEND AND THEY ATTEND AS A FULL MEMBER AT THAT TIME. UNDERSTOOD. SO AS FAR AS HOW WE DO THAT ESSENTIALLY WE WILL INTERVIEW EVERYONE. WE HAVE MOST CANDIDATES OR SEVERAL AT LEAST WERE AVAILABLE THIS EVENING. WE'LL INTERVIEW ADDITIONAL ONES AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE MISS STORM AT THE JUNE 9TH MEETING. MAKING SURE I HAVE THE DATE RIGHT. THE JUNE 9TH MEETING. ONCE THOSE INTERVIEWS HAVE CONCLUDED THAT EVENING, WE WILL THEN LOOK AT THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE OPEN AND WE WILL PUT PEOPLE FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION. AND YOU'LL HEAR PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS IF THEY HAVE THEM FROM THE DAIS. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS OR DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'LL BE A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. WE'LL ALSO AT THAT POINT, ANYONE WHO HAS APPLIED FOR OTHER BOARDS WILL HEAR FROM. IT'LL BE OUR MAYOR PRO TEM TYPICALLY WILL REPRESENT THE SUBCOMMITTEE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT DOES THE BOARD INTERVIEWS. AND HE'LL HAVE AN IDEA AS WELL IF SOME OF THOSE, IF, IF AN INDIVIDUAL FOR THE BOARD OF REVIEW WAS CONSIDERED THE BEST OR STRONGEST CANDIDATE FOR A DIFFERENT BOARD, YOU CANNOT SERVE BOTH. CORRECT. SO AT THAT POINT, WE WILL ALSO GET INPUT FROM OUR MAYOR PRO TEM. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST THAT THEY THAT THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING IN A DIFFERENT ROLE. SO WE WILL COMBINE ALL THAT TOGETHER AND DO OUR BEST TO PICK PEOPLE AT THAT POINT BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE GET BACK IN THE INTERVIEWS AS WELL. DOES THAT HELP? IT DOES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OF COURSE. IS THAT IT? THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND KNOW I KNOW WE HAD A LITTLE LONGER BEGINNING SESSION FOR EVERYONE WHO'S ATTENDING THIS EVENING. IT WAS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE OUR NEXT INDIVIDUAL THAT I HAVE LISTED IS HASSAN. BUT. OKAY. SO MISS STORM, IF WE CAN SEE IF HE IS AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE HEAR BACK. NEXT I HAVE KSENIA, STEPAN, STEPAN KENA. OKAY, AFTER THAT, I HAVE MARK CHANG YIN. AND I APOLOGIZE. SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE LET MR. KNOW THEY WILL BE HERE NEXT WEEK, BUT OR NEXT MEETING. BUT WE HAVE HAD TIMES THEY COME ANYWAY. NEXT IS MARK BOOTH. I'LL MOVE TO PETE MAZIARZ. AND ROBERT HUNTER. I SEE THE NOTE HERE THAT HE DID INDICATE IT WOULD BE THE NINTH. SO THANK YOU TO OUR TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING. I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE WHO MAY ATTEND AT THE NEXT MEETING. YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND AS WELL IF YOU WISH TO LISTEN TO THE DELIBERATION. WE ALSO LIVE STREAM, SO IF YOU PREFER TO WATCH IT FROM HOME, YOU CAN DO THAT AS WELL. AND ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE A TIME OR NEED TO SET A TIME, MAKE SURE TO GET WITH MISS STORM BECAUSE THE FULL BOARD INTERVIEWS FOR ANYTHING ELSE YOU'VE INDICATED INTEREST IN OCCURRED, I BELIEVE, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, MISS SMITH DID NOT APPLY FOR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO IF IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, WE COULD TRY TO FIT YOU IN. OKAY. WE'LL SEND YOU A SEND YOU AN EMAIL FOR THAT TIME. AND WE DO HAVE MISS TINSLEY SCHEDULED. OKAY. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. SO WITH THAT THIS EVENING, THERE WAS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN, SINCE THE INTERVIEWS ARE BEING CONDUCTED OVER TWO MEETINGS SO THAT WE WILL MOVE ON WITHOUT ANY ACTION ON THAT ITEM. [01:20:02] AND WE WILL NOW MOVE AND COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA AND MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSIONS THIS EVENING. [WS1. Discuss development options on property located at 801 South State Highway 78. ] OUR FIRST WORK SESSION IS TO DISCUSS THE DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS ON THE PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 801 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 78, AND I WILL ASK MR. HASKINS TO STEP FORWARD TO LEAD THAT DISCUSSION. MR. HASKINS, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2025. LAST YEAR, THE. THIS. THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE. THE OLD HOSPITAL ON STATE HIGHWAY 70. STATE HIGHWAY 78 CAME IN AND HAD A WORK SESSION WITH COUNCIL. THEY PRESENTED A COUPLE OF ITEMS. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY ON COUNCIL OFFERED SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT AND THESE FOLKS TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND REWORKED THEIR PROPOSAL INTO SOMETHING THAT THEY THINK WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY OF WYLIE. AND THEY'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THOSE, PRESENT THAT OPTION AND THEN GET SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK BEFORE THEY TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY. IF YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND, MAYOR, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS LOADED. I KNOW IT'S IN THE PACKET. I KNOW IT'S IN THE PACKET, BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S A LITTLE EASIER FOR A PDF WHEN IT'S A SEPARATE ITEM. THERE WE GO. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO THEM IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. YES, SIR. JUST HIT NEXT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MATT BERGER, AND I'M WITH RWC. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS OUR PRESENTATION AND PLAN FOR OUR PROPERTY, LOCATED AT 801 SOUTH HIGHWAY 78 IN WYLIE, TEXAS. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY A 20 ACRE SITE THAT'S IMPROVED WITH A THREE STORY VACANT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND A DILAPIDATED HOSPITAL BUILDING. SO I'D LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHY WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT THIS PLAN IS THE BEST PLAN. SO DURING THE OCTOBER 2025 WORK SESSION, WE PRESENTED TWO PLANS, THE FIRST BEING A 324 UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH A PARTIAL AGE RESTRICTION, AND THEN ANOTHER PLAN FOR 104 FOR SALE TOWNHOMES. SO THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON TRAFFIC CONCERNS, A PREFERENCE FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, AND A DESIRE FOR LOWER DENSITY. SO WE TOOK THAT SERIOUSLY, AND WE MADE SURE DURING OUR REVIEW THAT NO STONE WAS LEFT UNTURNED BEFORE RETURNING TONIGHT. THE FIRST ALTERNATIVE WE PURSUED WAS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, AND THAT EITHER THAT FOCUSED ON EITHER A BIG BOX RETAILER OR A STRIP CENTER. SO WE WORKED WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEER TO DESIGN CONCEPT PLANS, AND I PERSONALLY TOOK THOSE TO ICSC, SAN ANTONIO AND LAS VEGAS, WHERE I MET WITH INVESTMENT SALES PROFESSIONALS, LEASING BROKERS, PROSPECTIVE TENANTS, AND LOCAL DEVELOPERS ACTIVE IN WYLIE. THE FEEDBACK WAS CONSISTENT AND IT WAS THAT THE SITE LACKED LACKS SUFFICIENT HIGHWAY FRONTAGE. THE ACCESS IS CHALLENGING AND THERE ARE LIMITED RETAIL SYNERGIES NEARBY, WHICH LED US TO CONCLUDE THAT THE IN-LINE RENT SIMPLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT. WE THEN EXPLORED 125 KEY SELECT SERVICE OR EXTENDED STAY HOTEL, AND TO DO THIS, WE ENGAGED LW HOSPITALITY ADVISORS TO CONDUCT A FORMAL FEASIBILITY STUDY. THEIR CONCLUSION WAS CLEAR AND THEY CONCLUDED THAT THERE'S LIMITED CORPORATE DEMAND. THERE IS ALREADY ADEQUATE EXISTING HOTEL SUPPLY IN THE MARKET, AND ANY VIABLE HOTEL WOULD REALLY REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SUBSIDIES NORTH OF $20 MILLION, WHICH WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR TODAY OR AT ALL. FINALLY, WE THEN REVISIT A LOWER DENSITY TOWNHOME CONCEPT WITH A RETAIL OUTPARCEL. BUT AFTER FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH BROKERS AND TOWNHOME DEVELOPERS WE CONCLUDED THAT THE FOR SALE MARKET SOFTENED, AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE TOWNHOMES TO HIGHWAY 78 WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT PRICING AND ABSORPTION. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT, IS A PLAN WE BELIEVE GENUINELY RESPONDS TO CITY COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK WHILE BEING GROUNDED IN MARKET REALITY. SO WE ARE PROPOSING A 250 UNIT ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY RESTRICTED TO RESIDENTS 55 AND OLDER, ALONG WITH 12,000FT² OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SPACE, ALONG WITH A 1500 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL OUTPARCEL. [01:25:02] SO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS INTENTIONALLY TARGETED AT TENANTS THAT COMPLEMENT AN ACTIVE ADULT LIFESTYLE. SO WE'RE THINKING PHYSICAL THERAPY, A STRETCH LAB, A HAIR SALON, A DENTIST, AND OTHER CASUAL DINING CONCEPTS LIKE A COFFEE SHOP, A BAKERY OR MAYBE A WINE BAR. SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE RETAIL WILL STILL BE CHALLENGING, WE PLAN TO FOCUS ON DRIVE TWO USERS THAT WILL REALLY SERVE THE RESIDENTS LIVING ABOVE AND THE AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ITSELF. BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. YES. ABOUT THE RETAIL OUT PARCEL. SO ON HERE I DON'T SEE THAT AS A DRIVE THROUGH. IS THERE A REQUEST FOR A DRIVE THROUGH THE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ONE BASED ON THE DRAWING OR. BUT I KNOW THAT THAT IS PROBABLY JUST A VERY ROUGH SKETCH. IT'S A ROUGH SKETCH. THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH. I THINK IF IN THE EXPANDED VERSION THERE WOULD BE. OKAY. SO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WILL BE A TRULY AMENITY RICH COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE PLANNING TO FEATURE THINGS LIKE A POOL AND CLUBHOUSE, A FITNESS CENTER, A DINING ROOM WITH MEAL SERVICES, WALKING TRAILS, A SECLUDED PICKLEBALL COURT, A THEATER ROOM AND ELEVATORS THROUGHOUT. SO THIS WILL BE A COMMUNITY DESIGNED FOR RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO STAY IN WYLIE AND WHO ARE READY TO DOWNSIZE BUT NOT LEAVE. SO WHY 55 PLUS? AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THESE BENEFITS, SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW. THE FIRST BEING THAT THIS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON WYLIE ISD. SO NOT A SINGLE ADDITIONAL STUDENT, WHICH IS A MEANINGFUL DISTINCTION FROM TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY. SECOND, ACTIVE ADULT RESIDENTS GENERATE LOWER RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC AND REDUCE PARKING DEMAND COMPARED TO CONVENTIONAL CONVENTIONAL APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. WE'LL PLAN TO CONFIRM THE SPECIFICS THROUGH A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, BUT THE DATA ON THIS IS CONSISTENT NATIONALLY. AND THIRD, THIS FILLS A GENUINE GAP IN WYLIE'S HOUSING MARKET AS THE 55 PLUS DEMOGRAPHIC CONTINUES TO GROW HERE. THE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW WHO WANT TO DOWNSIZE BUT DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE COMMUNITY THEY'VE BUILT THEIR LIVES IN. SO THIS GIVES THEM GIVES THEM AN AMENITY RICH OPTION TO TO HAVE WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE OUT OF TOWN, OUT OF THE CITY. AND FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, THIS THEY OFFER STABLE LONG TERM COMMUNITY INVOLVED RESIDENTS WITH LOW TURNOVER WHO SHOP LOCAL, ARE ENGAGED AND ARE ALREADY HERE. SO FINALLY, THE LOCATION ITSELF ALSO CREATES NATURAL SYNERGIES. BEHIND OUR SITE WE HAVE THE WILEY OAKS HEALTH AND REHAB FACILITY, WHICH IS SKILLED NURSING FACILITY AND CAN OFFER AN EASY TRANSITION FOR TENANTS AGING OUT OF THE 55 PLUS. WE ALSO ARE ADJACENT TO NORTH PLACE CHURCH FOR ADDED COMMUNITY. AND THE RETAIL WE'RE TARGETING WOULD BE PURPOSE BUILT AROUND THIS LIFESTYLE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A COHESIVE ECOSYSTEM AND NOT JUST AN APARTMENT BUILDING WITH A COFFEE SHOP ATTACHED. IN TERMS OF ZONING, HOLD ON BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM APPEARS TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE APARTMENTS, IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE RIGHT, ARE WE LOOKING AT ABOUT 500FT² APARTMENTS? I BELIEVE FOR ZONING, I THINK THE ONE BEDROOMS HAVE TO BE 800 AND TWOS HAVE TO BE AROUND 1100. SO IT WOULD BE MAYBE STUDIOS WOULD BE ABOUT 600FT². BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOO FAR INTO THE ACTUAL DRAWINGS YET. OKAY. BUT THEY WOULD CONFORM WITH ZONING REQUIREMENTS. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WHERE EXACTLY IS THE 12,000FT² OF RETAIL LOCATED? THAT WOULD BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR. IF YOU SEE THE NUMBER TWO ON THE DRAWING, ALL THE RED WOULD BE THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL SPACE. OKAY. SO THAT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL, WHICH PERMITS RESIDENTIAL USES USES WITHIN A MIXED USE STRUCTURE AT A DENSITY OF UP TO 15 DWELLING UNITS PER GROSS ACRE. OF THE 20 TOTAL ACRES, 11.5 ARE DEVELOPABLE. AND WE'RE REQUESTING 100% OF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY ON THAT PORTION, WHICH YIELDS 173 UNITS, AND THE REMAINING EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES FALL WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN. AND WE'RE REQUESTING ONLY 61% OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE THERE. SO 77 ADDITIONAL UNITS. THUS, IN TOTAL, WE'RE REQUESTING 250 UNITS ACROSS THE FULL SITE, WHICH REPRESENTS JUST 83% OF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY, OR ABOUT 12 UNITS PER ACRE. THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONFORM TO ALL CITY STANDARDS, WITH ONE [01:30:06] EXCEPTION THE BUILDING HEIGHT. SO WHILE WE'RE STILL EARLY IN THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING, WE ANTICIPATE NEEDING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR FOUR STORIES OR 45FT. IT REALLY HELPS US KEEP THE FOOTPRINT COMPACT AND PRESERVING GREEN SPACE AND PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. SO BEFORE I ACTUALLY, I'LL LET YOU FINISH AND THEN CHIEF IN THE BACK BE READY BECAUSE I'LL I'LL HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON FIRE LADDER. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THE EXISTING COVERAGE FROM THE NEARBY STATION. OKAY. SORRY THAT THAT CAME UP ONCE BEFORE, AND WE ENDED UP NEEDING A BIGGER TRUCK THAT REQUIRED A BIGGER BAY, AND IT HAD A WHOLE SNOWBALL EFFECT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WOULDN'T FALL INTO A DIFFERENT COVERAGE AREA AND PUT US IN THE SAME POSITION, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE REQUEST IS FOR A 55 AND UP. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME MOBILITY CHALLENGES. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE, HEAVEN FORBID ANYTHING HAPPENS. I KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPRINKLING AND THINGS, BUT THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO THEM AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT COVERAGE. SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUT I'LL LET YOU PROCEED THEN. THANK YOU. SO IN TERMS OF THE ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT, WE ENGAGED NOEL CONSULTING GROUP TO MODEL THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THE NUMBERS ARE QUITE COMPELLING. ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THE 55 PLUS COMMUNITY IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE $935,000 IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES, AND RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTRIBUTE ABOUT $2.75 MILLION ANNUALLY IN LOCAL RETAIL SPENDING. THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT WOULD THEN ADD ABOUT ANOTHER $111,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES, WITH APPROXIMATELY $5.4 MILLION IN ANNUAL SALES, GENERATING $445,000 IN ESTIMATED SALES TAX. SO IN TOTAL, THE DEVELOPMENT IS ESTIMATED TO PRODUCE OVER $1 MILLION IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES $445,000 IN ANNUAL SALES TAXES AND MORE THAN $8.1 MILLION IN COMBINED ANNUAL SALES AND LOCAL SPENDING. SO TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY GENERATES JUST $80,000 IN PROPERTY TAXES, AND THIS PROPOSAL WOULD REPRESENT A 12 TIMES INCREASE ON PROPERTY TAXES ALONE. IN CLOSING, WE BELIEVE THIS PLAN HONORS COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS, RESPONDS TO REAL MARKET CONDITIONS AND DELIVERS A MEANINGFUL PHYSICAL AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT TO THE CITY. WILEY. AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. OKAY, I SEE THAT COUNCILMAN STRING HAS A QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE TOTAL ANNUAL PROPERTY TAXES THAT YOU SHOW ON THAT LAST SLIDE WAS JUST OVER A MILLION BUCKS, CORRECT? YES. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY DOESN'T GET THAT THE CITY GETS ABOUT 260 000 CHANGE. THAT'S THE ONLY NUMBER THAT I CARE ABOUT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE COUNTIES THE THE COLLIN COUNTY COLLEGE, NOR THE ISD. THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. I JUST THINK THAT INSTEAD OF STICKING THAT IN THE APPENDIX, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LEAD WITH THAT ONE NEXT TIME. OKAY. ALSO, THESE COMPARABLES YOU HAVE ON HERE, FRANKLY, THESE ARE NOT VERY COMPARABLE. THAT BEING SAID, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE PROJECT. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USE ITSELF. IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY NICE ADDITION TO THE LAND. I KNOW THAT'S AN ODDBALL PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE FLOODPLAIN THERE AND THE VERY NARROW STRIP YOU GOT. UP NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY. SO I THINK THAT'S IT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST OBSERVATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PERKINS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THE STRUCTURES THAT YOU GOT PROPOSED ARE THE APARTMENTS INTERNALLY ACCESSED EXTERNALLY. INTERNALLY ACCESSED? YEAH. ALL INTERNAL. THERE WOULD BE INTERNAL HALLWAYS. NO EXTERIOR CORRIDORS. OKAY. AND SO BUILDING ONE AND I ASSUME THAT THE COUNTERPART ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE SAME. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT IS. IS THAT APARTMENTS THAT ARE INTERNAL THERE? WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? YES. ALL INTERNAL. AND I BELIEVE WE'VE COVERED PARKING THERE. OKAY. THE ONLY THING I WOULD JUST NOTE WITH THIS DRAWING SPECIFICALLY IS THAT WE ARE STILL A LITTLE EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. SO WHILE WE'RE REQUESTING THE UNITS AND SQUARE FOOTAGES, THE DESIGN LAYOUT MAY SHIFT. AND WOULD ALL THESE STRUCTURES BE FOUR STORIES. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD NOT NEED THAT. BUT I WOULD I THINK AT THIS TIME WE'D BE REQUESTING THAT. OKAY. SO YOU THINK YOU WON'T NEED FOUR STORIES. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE DRAWINGS, BUT AT THIS POINT WE IT WOULD GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE FORWARD, OKAY. AS BEST AS POSSIBLE AND CREATE REALLY THE BEST PLAN WITH THE BIGGEST SQUARE FOOTAGES. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. [01:35:03] MAYOR. THE LOT CARVED OUT OF THE CENTER. DID YOU ALL OWN THAT LOT PREVIOUSLY, OR DID Y'ALL NOT OWN THAT LOT AT ALL? WE DID NOT OWN THAT. OH, NO. SO DO Y'ALL HAVE OR DO YOU KNOW IF THAT LOT OWNER HAS WITH Y'ALL IN AGREEMENT AS FAR AS SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS THE, AND I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS TO FIGURE OUT AND I REALIZE THAT MIGHT NOT BE YOU, THAT MIGHT BE MR.. HASKINS THAT NEEDS TO ANSWER THIS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN OR WILL BE PUTTING IN AN APPROACH ON THEIR LOT, OR IF THAT LOT IS GOING TO HAVE TO USE WHAT LOOKS LIKE YOUR PROPERTY FOR ACCESS. YEAH. I'M NOT WHAT YOU ANSWER. HOLD ON. JASON, LET ME. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS TO THE RIGHT? WELL, BOTH SIDES ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. ABOUT TO THE LEFT, BUT TO THE RIGHT THERE IS A DOUBLE ACCESS. ONE GOES TO THE CHURCH AND ONE GOES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. DURING THIS PROCESS, WE WOULD WANT TO ELIMINATE THAT DOUBLE ACCESS TO, TO JUST ONE SINGLE ACCESS. RIGHT. BUT WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THE, THE ONE IN THE CENTER HAS ACCESS, WHAT, WHAT THEIR EGRESS IS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO ACCESS THIS PROPERTY WITHIN THE RED SQUARE. NOW THEY, THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT THROUGH THE PLAT, THEIR SHARED ACCESS ON BOTH SIDES. IT IS SHARED. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT THAT THAT THAT HELPS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN DUKE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ARE THERE GOING TO BE TURN LANES ON HIGHWAY 78 FOR THIS? MAYBE JASON CAN ANSWER. IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN THEY'D BE REQUIRED TO DO A TIA TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND MY GUESS WITHOUT BEING AN ENGINEER WOULD BE TO SAY THAT, YEAH, A D CELL LANE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS. OKAY. AND THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR, FOR WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I'LL TAKE A STAB AND THROW A COUPLE OF THINGS OUT THAT I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE ARE ALREADY BEING CONSIDERED, BUT I JUST WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT. I THINK I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO A TIA, BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A 55 AND UP COMMUNITY, DSL LANES ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT COMING OFF OF A, A HIGHWAY. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT A 70 MILE AN HOUR HIGHWAY, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE PROPENSITY FOR AN ACCIDENT. IF SOMEONE IS HITTING THEIR BRAKES A LITTLE HARD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T BECOME A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IN A SENIOR COMPLEX LIKE THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE JASON AND MISTER PARKER ALREADY STATED ABOUT THE PROPOSED ACCESS POINT WITH THE CHURCH. LONG TERM, I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE TWO TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE AGAIN. SOMEONE PULLS UP IN THE CHURCH LOT TO TURN LEFT. THEY PULL OUT OF THIS ONE TO TURN RIGHT. THEY'RE GOING JUST ABOUT HEAD ON EACH OTHER RIGHT IN FRONT OF POTENTIAL TRAFFIC COMING UP THE ROAD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL RESOLVE. AND THE LAST ONE IS I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST AN INITIAL RENDERING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS OF HIGH IMPORTANCE TO ME, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOWER FROM 4 TO 3, THAT ONE IN THE ALMOST MIRROR ACROSS FROM IT WOULD BE WHERE YOU WOULD START THAT THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BACK THERE, I WOULD WANT TO SEE THOSE LOWERED BEFORE THE ONES IN THE FRONT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STAY WHERE THOSE APARTMENTS DON'T GET SHIFTED TO THAT BACK ROW UP AGAINST THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, THAT MIGHT COMPLETELY CHANGE MY OPINION OF BEING OPEN TO THIS DISCUSSION. IF THOSE WERE PUT THREE, EVEN THREE STORIES AGAINST SOMEBODY CLOSE TO SOMEONE'S BACK FENCE. YES, WE HAVE SETBACKS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THIRD STORY APARTMENTS ALL OF A SUDDEN OVERLOOKING YOUR BACKYARD. YES, THERE WAS A HOTEL, NOT A HOTEL, A HOSPITAL OF SORTS THERE. BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND ARE GOING TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY 24 OVER SEVEN LOOKING INTO YOUR BACKYARD. SO I LIKE THE WAY THAT IT'S LAID OUT LIKE THAT. IF WE'RE GOING TO DROP IT FROM 4 TO 3, I'D LIKE TO, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE ENDS OF THOSE. I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE TWEAKS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BE EVEN MORE TOWARDS PROTECTING THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BACK THERE. AND THEN OF COURSE, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF SCREENING BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND SOME OF THIS IS ALSO FOR JASON AS THEY WORK THROUGH IT. DON'T WANT WROUGHT IRON. I DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT'S SEE THROUGH IT WOULD NEED. I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE SOME SORT OF OF A SOLID DEMISE IN THERE. AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT TO BE 20FT TALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. [01:40:01] BUT NOW AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE BACK THERE TO, TO NOT BE ALL OF A SUDDEN STARING THROUGH METAL METAL BARS. AND I KNOW THEY CAN LOOK VERY NICE AT A PARKING LOT FULL OF CARS. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ABOUT TRYING TO PROTECT THAT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK FEEDBACK FROM THIS COUNCIL ON DENSITY AND THAT YOU ADDED A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT IN HERE. I DO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT THAT OTHER PARCEL. I KNOW YOU GUYS ATTEMPTED TO ACQUIRE IT WITHOUT THAT OTHER PARCEL. AND THE FACT THAT WHAT WAS, WAS THAT BROOKSHIRE'S, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THAT HAILSTORM THAT IF IT WAS STILL BROOKSHIRE'S, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, FRANKLY, FOR YOU AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A BIG BOX. AND THERE'D BE, IN MY OPINION, A LOT EASIER TO PUT ANOTHER BIG BOX NEXT TO IT. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A GROCERY ANCHOR. BUT WITHOUT THAT, AND IT BEING A CHURCH, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS VERY, VERY DIFFERENT. AND FRANKLY, THERE'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO CLEAR CUT THAT FLOODPLAIN TO PROVIDE THAT EYEBALL ABILITY TO SEE BACK THERE. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TAKING THAT. THOSE ARE JUST SOME LITTLE POINTS. I KNOW IT'S GETTING MORE INTO THE WEEDS, BUT I ASSUME THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE YOU'LL YOU ALL WILL HEAD NEXT IS INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE DEEPER. SO I'D RATHER GIVE YOU THAT FEEDBACK TONIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID YOU WANTED DEMISING WALL JUST ON THE BACK TOWARDS THE RESIDENTIAL. OR YOU WANT DEMISING WALL AGAINST THE I GUESS SENIOR HEALTHCARE PLACE OR ON THE RIGHT. I, I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO WHAT COUNCIL. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTIAL WAS PROTECTED RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE IT'S OPEN CURRENTLY AND JUST KIND OF A PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE. SO, I MEAN, I COULD BE AMENABLE TO LANDSCAPING AS OPPOSED TO A FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. AND, AND AM I MAKING IT MORE OF A BIG COMMUNITY FEEL FOR THE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS MAY STILL WANT TO UTILIZE THE SERVICES THAT ARE OVER IN THE SENIOR COMPLEX ON THE COMMERCIAL PORTION. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TOWARDS THE CHURCH AND THE SENIOR CENTER. ARE WE LANDSCAPING BRANT BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WANT TO NOT HAVE A DOUBLE ACCESS ON WITH THE CHURCH AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAT ENTRANCE, IS THAT BEING LANDSCAPED IN BETWEEN OR HOW IS HOW DO YOU PLAN TO DIVIDE THAT ENTRANCE? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND IT? NO, THERE'S A COMBINATION I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT IF IF THE IF THE DRIVE THE CHURCH HAS AND THE DRIVE THAT THEY HAVE GET COMBINED INTO A SHARED DRIVE. WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH THE EXCESS SPACE ALONG THERE? I THINK HE'S ASKING, WOULD WE DO SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPING? WOULD WE DIVIDE IT WITH SOME SORT OF A MEDIAN ISH TYPE THING DOWN THE MIDDLE? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM. SO YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE GOING FROM GOING BOTH WAYS AT THE SAME TIME, AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK HE'S JUST ASKING WHAT THE THOUGHT IS ON, ON WHAT YOU DESIGN IT TO LOOK LIKE IN THAT CASE. I AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER COUNCIL'S WILL IS ON THAT, BUT THAT GENERALLY WOULD JUST BE A MEDIAN. MEDIAN. YEAH. THAT, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY END UP BEING LANDSCAPED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. NOW WE CAN MAKE IT JUST GRASS OR WE CAN MAKE IT GRASS WITH TREES OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, UNDERSTOOD. I WAS JUST WANTING CLARIFICATION, UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE SPLITTING THAT SINCE IT'S OPEN NOW. AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS ON THE FLOODPLAIN. DO YOU PLAN TO DO ANY TRAILS OR WALKING TRAILS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT DURING THEIR DAYTIME, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE IN THE AREA THEY CAN GO AND WALK YOU THROUGH. ONE IS NOT IN FLOODPLAIN, OBVIOUSLY. AND HOPEFULLY, YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE TO DO WALKING TRAILS WITH BENCHES. AND DO YOU ANTICIPATE INCLUDING THOSE? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. MAYBE EVEN SOME LIKE SCULPTURES COULD BE NICE ADDITION, BUT SOME BIRDHOUSES TOO. JUST TRYING TO CREATE A NICE WELCOMING COMMUNITY. OKAY. AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS SAY YOU GET A FAVORABLE OUTCOME TONIGHT TO SOME DEGREE, AND THEN YOU COME OUT WITH A PLAN. ARE YOU PLANNING TO DEVELOP THIS YOURSELF, OR YOU'RE PLANNING TO TAKE IT TO THE MARKET TO FIND A DEVELOPER? I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE SITTING THERE, OF COURSE, AND BEING THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND GIVING YOU A FAVORABLE MARKET RESEARCH TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING OUT LOUD ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PUTTING, WHAT BEST FITS IN THAT SPACE. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT THIS PROJECT TO BE TEN YEARS FROM NOW. SO IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE IMPACTS THAT YOU AND YOU PUT ANALYSIS ON. ON OUR CITY TAXES AND OUR CITIZENS OVER OVERHEAD, OVERALL, I WANT TO MAKE. SURE. THE TIMELINE ON THIS AND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE AND WHEN. ACTUALLY, WE WILL SEE THOSE IMPACTS IN THE CITY. [01:45:03] ABSOLUTELY. WE, WE, SOME OF OUR BACKGROUND, WE ARE LENDERS. WE ARE NOT ABSOLUTE. WE'RE NOT DEVELOPERS. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE HAVE THE TEAM THAT'S CAPABLE TO TAKE THIS ON. WE'RE STILL EXPLORING DIFFERENT ROUTES, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S BRINGING IN A FEE DEVELOPER PART, BRINGING A JV OR GOING OUT TO THE MARKET. BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO GETTING THIS ACTIONABLE AND BREAKING GROUND STARTING DEMO AND REALLY KICKING THIS OFF IN THE NEXT PHASE. AND LIKE I SAID, I, I'M IN FAVOR I THINK MY COLLEAGUES SAID A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK YOU'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND DO IT. BUT I ALSO, BEFORE I THINK THE FINAL VERSION OF IT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN ACTION PLAN. I DON'T WANT TO JUST SHOOT FROM THE AIR AND JUST APPROVE SOMETHING, JUST TO HAVE IT ON THE PAPER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE. I LIKE THAT PROJECT TO GO THROUGH. YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING THAT CURRENTLY SITS THERE IS OLDER, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO IN, IN THROUGH THAT BUILDING. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED IN OUR MARKET FOR IT FOR A PROPERTY LIKE THIS. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROPERTY AT 544, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF IT'S NOT AT CAPACITY, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO CAPACITY ALREADY. AND SO OUR MARKET SUPPORTS SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT SUPPORTS IT DOESN'T OVERBURDEN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS AS WELL. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN FIT IN THERE AND WILL FIT RIGHT. BUT I DO WANT AN ACTION PLAN BEFORE AT LEAST I AM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. OR MY APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE THERE. I DO LIKE SOME TIMELINES. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS. I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM MOST PEOPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO RECAP JUST TO MAKE SURE. AND I'M JUST SINCE HE WAS JUST SPEAKING, I'LL PUT HIM BACK ON THE MIC. MAYOR PRO TEM OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT REQUESTS MADE. WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD TO HAVING THEM PROVIDE KIND OF MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP AS LONG AS THOSE ARE MET? YEAH. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES. THE ONLY ADD ON THAT I WANTED TO SEE IS AN ACTION PLAN. AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TIMELINES, OKAY, I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING. IF THERE'S NO DEVELOPER AND THERE'S NO FUTURE OF THIS PROJECT. FAIR ENOUGH. AND I THINK I THINK I CAN SEE BOTH OF THEM HERE THIS EVENING, SO I THINK HOPEFULLY I'LL SAY FROM MY PART, HOPEFULLY, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, THAT WILL FREE THEM UP TO POTENTIALLY HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH, I'LL CALL IT PARTNERS. COUNCILMAN HOOVER. I, I LIKE THE PLAN. TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY. I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL REQUEST FOR YOU. WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HAVE ASKED FOR, I THINK IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE GUIDANCE I WOULD GIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M IN SUPPORT WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, WHEN YOU DO BRING IT BACK WITH YOUR ELEVATIONS, THAT YOU COME BACK WITH ELEVATIONS THAT FIT WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE, THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE SEEN AT TIMES, ONES THAT COME BACK AND THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MARKET THAT JUST DON'T SEEM TO FIT IN HERE. SO I WOULD DO A LITTLE MARKET RESEARCH THERE SO THAT IT FITS IN. THANK YOU. FAIR ENOUGH SIR. IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD POINT THAT WASN'T MADE, BUT JASON CAN PROBABLY CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT OR IS SEVERAL EXAMPLES AROUND TOWN. AS STATED ORIGINALLY THE, THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT YOU, I, I BELIEVE YOU WERE HERE THAT EVENING, SIR. DID NOT HAVE ANY INTEREST FROM ME IN THAT FORM. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS CAME BACK WITH A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, AN AGE RESTRICTION, A MUCH LOWER DENSITY. FOR ME, THAT CHANGES THE CALCULUS ON THE ON THE LOT. IT GETS COMMERCIAL, SOME COMMERCIAL VALUE, BUT IT ADDRESSES SOME OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, WHICH WERE TRAFFIC NEAR THE FIVE, 44 AND 78 INTERSECTION, 55 AND UP IS GENERALLY GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A RETIREMENT STAGE OF LIFE. IN MOST CASES, THEY ARE NOT GETTING UP AND DOING THE 8 TO 5 GRIND. THEY ARE GOING TO PURPOSEFULLY AVOID TRAFFIC DURING THOSE TIMES. AND SO IT'S NOT EXACERBATING THAT PROBLEM. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT THAT AS LONG AS YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO WORK TO AS YOU HAVE IN THIS INITIAL RENDERING TO PROTECT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS WHO WERE ALREADY THERE THEN THEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS COME BACK WITH BETTER DETAILS. COUNCILMAN PICKENS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR ACTUALLY EXPANDED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE [01:50:01] BUILDINGS. AND I AGREE WITH HIM THAT NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE TO THE SOUTH OF YOU THERE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO TO FOCUS ON MAYBE THREE, THREE STORIES ON THOSE BACK BUILDINGS AND ALSO KEEP THEM AT A DISTANCE AWAY FROM THOSE PROPERTIES. JUST, JUST FOR THE SITE PRESENCE THAT YOU WILL CREATE TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACT TO THEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROPOSAL FOR USE OF THIS PROPERTY. THE 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES ARE SEEM TO BE POPULAR HERE. AND THEY, AS MENTIONED, THEY ARE SELLING. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRAIN, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN, DO I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES YOU ALL WITH THE FEEDBACK, OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY TAKING NOTES, BUT THERE'LL BE NOTES FROM JASON AND OF COURSE, EVERYTHING IS RECORDED. SO LOOK FORWARD TO YOU GUYS COMING BACK TO US WITH IT REFINED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I KNOW YOU ALL WORK WITH JASON AND THEN HAVING A PARTNER THAT HAS A TIMELINE, AS MENTIONED, HOPEFULLY FOR BEING ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE WORK SESSION ONE. WELL, I, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WAITING. I CAN SEE THE, THE CHEERING CREW IN THE BACK. I AM GOING TO GIVE US JUST A SECOND, JUST A LITTLE BREAK. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT IS SQUIRMING AND, AND, AND TRYING TO HUSTLE THROUGH AND NOT PAY ATTENTION. SO WE'LL TAKE A QUICK RECESS. WITH THAT, I WILL CALL US BACK INTO SESSION. WE WERE ON OUR SECOND WORK SESSION THIS EVENING, WHICH IS OUR WILEY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW. [WS2. Wylie Parks and Recreation Department overview.] AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. OKAY. HI, I'M CARMEN PALIN, I'M THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. I TAKE FUN VERY SERIOUSLY. TONIGHT WE ARE DOING OUR ANNUAL PRESENTATION. WE WILL START OFF WITH THE USUAL INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDE THE COUNCIL AND JUST KIND OF THE GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT. THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE REC CENTERS PERFORMANCE, HOW PERFORMANCE, HOW THAT'S BEEN GOING SINCE WE STARTED MAKING A BUNCH OF CHANGES A FEW YEARS AGO. AND THEN LASTLY, WHEN I GET TO THE LAST SIDE, I'M GOING TO NEED SOME INFORMATION FROM YOU. AND I WANT TO PICK YOUR BRAINS ON ATHLETIC FEES BECAUSE IT'S TIME. WE NEED TO START MAKING A PLAN FOR THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GATHER SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH FOR THAT. SO WE'LL GET STARTED. SO WILEY PARKS AND RECREATION OVERSEES THREE INDOOR FACILITIES. WE HAVE 664 ACRES THAT WE STEWARD 19 MILES OF TRAIL, 16 DEDICATED ATHLETIC FIELDS, NINE MULTI-PURPOSE FIELDS, TWO ATHLETIC COMPLEXES, 140 ACRES OF RIGHT OF WAYS AND MEDIANS. WE HAVE 13 OUTDOOR PUBLIC ARTWORKS THAT WE TAKE CARE OF, 50 ACRES OF NON PARK CITY FACILITIES, OVER 11,000 PROGRAM REGISTRATIONS. THIS LAST YEAR WE SEE OVERSEE 23 PLAYGROUNDS. WE HAD ALMOST 22000 REC PASSES ISSUED THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE HOST TO OVER 2.5 MILLION VISITORS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. PARKS AND RECREATION HAS SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IT HELPS TO REDUCE ENVIRONMENTAL COSTS, STIMULATE TOURISM, GENERATE SALES, PROVIDE JOBS, REDUCE PUBLIC HEALTH COSTS, ATTRACT BUSINESSES, INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, AND ATTRACT HOME BUYERS. OUR STAFF IS MADE UP OF 117 EMPLOYEES. THE MAJORITY, 70%, ARE PART TIME AND PART TIME SEASONAL EMPLOYEES. WE DO MAINTAIN SEVERAL CERTIFICATIONS ACROSS BOTH THE PARKS AND RECREATION SIDE. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE DO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH OVER 200 SERVICE PROVIDERS. MOST OF THOSE ARE PROVIDING CLASSES AT REC CENTER AND COMMUNITY PARK CENTER. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL CONTRACT MOWING WE HAVE AND LITTER THAT KIND OF THING. SO OUR DEPARTMENT OVERSEES A LARGE NUMBER OF AMENITIES ALL ACROSS THE CITY, AND SOME OF THE NEWER ONES WITHIN THIS LAST YEAR INCLUDE THE ROOM RENTALS THAT WE'VE BEEN OFFERING AT COMMUNITY PARK CENTER. WE DID SOME RENOVATIONS AT SOME OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS THIS YEAR. THE. WE'VE HAD SOME TRAIL EXPANSION WITH THE CONNECTION OVER AT MURPHY. [01:55:05] WE'VE ADDED A COUPLE. WELL, ADDED A PLAYGROUND. WE'VE REPLACED A COUPLE PLAYGROUNDS THIS LAST YEAR. NEW FITNESS EQUIPMENT. OF COURSE, THE SPLASH PADS CAME ONLINE THIS LAST SUMMER. THE DOG PARK IS STILL IN ITS NEW PHASE. AND THEN OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS. THE DEPARTMENT'S MARKETING IS ENCOMPASSED WITH OUR ACTIVITY MENU CATALOG, WHICH IS OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF REGISTRATIONS. THE SUMMER CAMP CATALOG, WE USE AN ONLINE SOFTWARE CALLED ACTIVE NET. WE HAVE OUR CITY WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA REGISTRATION DRIVES, PRINT ADS, POSTCARDS, AND REC CARDS. THE RATIO IS STILL. WE'RE MAINTAINING A SOLID 1 TO 2 RATIO OF REGISTRATIONS TO PRINTED ACTIVITY MENUS, WHICH IS AN EXCEPTIONAL NUMBER FOR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. AND LET'S SEE IF I MISSED ANYTHING ON THAT. GOT IT. OKAY. AND THEN OUR LIST OF REGULAR PROMOTIONS INCLUDE REC PASS HOLDER PRICING, EARLY BIRD ONLINE REGISTRATION, CAMP, EARLY REGISTRATION. CAMP PROMO REGISTRATION, RESIDENT PRICING. PARENT. NIGHT OUT IS THAT ONE THAT SAYS NO SIBLING DISCOUNT AND AGE PRICING ON THE CAMP. THE EARLY CAMP REGISTRATIONS THIS YEAR WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED LAST YEAR BY ABOUT 14%. SO CAMPS ARE GOING. THEY STARTED THIS WEEK AND THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL. SO THIS IS SOMETHING I TYPICALLY SHARE WITH COUNCIL. WE USE THE SERVICE CLASSIFICATION PYRAMID TO DETERMINE OUR COST RECOVERY FOR OUR PROGRAMS. OR AT LEAST IT'S A IT'S A GOOD BASELINE WHERE WE START. SO AT THE VERY TOP, YOU'LL SEE THE VALUE ADDED PORTION. THAT IS WHERE WE WANT TO RECOVER IN THE 80% PLUS REGION OF OUR COST. THE IMPORTANT IS THIS WHERE WE DO SUBSIDIZE SOMEWHAT AND THAT'S 30 TO 80. AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, THE CORE SERVICES THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE OUTDOOR SPACES, PLAYGROUNDS, THAT KIND OF THING. WE DON'T REALLY EXPECT TO GENERATE ANY USER FEES ON THAT. SO THAT'S A 0 TO 30%. THE DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND AND I LAND DEVELOPMENT FEES, GRANTS AND DONATIONS FOR B SALES TAX. WE ALSO COLLECT USER FEES ON PROGRAMS. THE PASSES RENTALS. AND THOSE FEES GO BACK INTO A SMALL PORTION, GOES INTO GENERAL FUND. THE REST OF IT GOES BACK INTO THE FOR B SALES TAX FUND. ON OUR PART, EXPENSES FOR 2425. OUR TOTAL EXPENSES WERE JUST UNDER. WELL, THEY'RE JUST OVER SORRY, 9,000,084% OF THAT EXPENSE WAS OPERATIONS. 16% WENT TO RENOVATIONS. DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION OF THAT OPERATIONS COST. IF YOU KIND OF START UP AT THE TOP OF THE CIRCLE THAT WAS COVERED BY THE FOR BE USER FEES SO THE PASSES CLASSES RENTALS FEES THE FOR BE OTHER THAT IS INTEREST EARNED ON THE MONEY WE HAVE IN FOR BE AND THEN FOR BE SALES TAX REVENUE MADE UP 41%. YOU'LL SEE JUST A SMALL PORTION IN GENERAL FUND USER FEES. AND THEN PARKS DOES HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF THE GENERAL FUND MAKING UP ONLY 3.6% OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND THEN WE DO HAVE OUR FOR BE FUND BALANCE THAT WE USE PRIMARILY FOR THOSE RENOVATIONS AND ACQUISITION DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN JUST A KIND OF A ZOOM IN ON THE ACQUISITION, DEVELOPMENT AND RENOVATION PORTION OF IT. WE DID HAVE 83% GO TO RENOVATIONS THIS YEAR, AND 17% WENT TO NEW DEVELOPMENT SPENDING JUST UNDER 1.5 MILLION. OKAY. SO NOW LET'S GET TO THE FUN STUFF. PROJECTS FOR THIS YEAR. SOME OF THEM WERE JUST COMPLETED OR SOME I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES ON. SO FOR THE SHADE AND LIGHTING AT COMMUNITY PICKLEBALL THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THE LIGHTING AT DOG PARK IS COMPLETE. THE PARKING AT COMMUNITY PARK. WE ARE IN PROGRESS FOR THAT. AND THIS WOULD BE THAT ASPHALT PORTION ON THE SOUTH END. WE HAVE, WE'RE WAITING ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THAT. THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO START BIDDING OUT TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION DONE FOR THAT PART OF THE PARKING. WE STILL HAVE THE NORTHERN PORTION PORTION WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS AT SOME POINT. SORRY, THAT'S WHERE THE GRAVEL IS, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT BACK END. YEAH. THE BACK END. OKAY. AND THEN WE COMPLETED THE LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE AT PIRATE COVE. [02:00:10] SOUTHBROOK AND CREEKSIDE PLAYGROUNDS ARE BEING REPLACED THIS YEAR. WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED SAGE CREEK AND RIVERWAY REPLACEMENTS LAST YEAR. THE IMPROVEMENTS AT COMMUNITY PARK CENTER INCLUDED THE ADA COMPLIANT RESTROOMS. OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING GOT A FACELIFT. WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE PARKING ISSUES AND PAINT AND FINISHES INSIDE. WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO DESIGNATE A SPECIFIC AREA FOR THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT EQUIPMENT THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE GAME AREA. AND THEN THE SPLASH PADS DID OPEN UP THIS LAST SUMMER. SO WE DID HAVE ONE FULL SEASON. WE'RE ABLE TO WORK OUT SOME KINKS AND THAT HAS GONE VERY WELL. I HOPE YOU'RE RECEIVING POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE SPLASH PADS AS WELL. I'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW PEOPLE USING THEM. YES. THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY. OKAY, SO REC CENTER, THIS IS THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR THIS YEAR. THIS IS ANOTHER REPORT I TYPICALLY SHARE WITH YOU. SO THE USER FEE REVENUE THIS LAST YEAR WAS 1.3 MILLION EXCEEDING OUR BENCHMARK OF 990 K. OUR PROGRAM SURVEYS, WE HAD A 98% SATISFACTION RATE AT THE REC CENTER BENCHMARK IS 80%. THE AUTO RENEW FAMILY PASS SAW A 20% INCREASE IN SALES. OUR RESIDENT AT THE BOTTOM LEFT SQUARE REC PASS RESIDENT I'M SORRY. RESIDENT UNIQUE USERS RATE WAS AT 8%. THE BENCHMARK SIX. THIS DID GO DOWN JUST A HAIR. AND IT'S BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS INCREASED. SO WE ARE PLANNING TO TRY TO DO A LITTLE EXTRA OUTREACH TO REACH THOSE NEW RESIDENTS. 35% OF OUR RESIDENTS DID PARTICIPATE IN SOMETHING SOMEWHERE WITH US THIS YEAR. AND I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS NUMBER. OUR DIRECT COST RECOVERY HAS JUMPED UP TO HUNDRED AND 24%. WHICH I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH THAT IS APPRECIATED, THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. I CAN SEE SOME OF YOUR STAFF IN THE BACK THERE. THEY WORK VERY HARD. THEY'VE THEY'VE WORKED VERY HARD. AND YOU CAN YOU CAN TELL THAT. I'LL PUT IT. I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. TAKING THE HANDCUFFS OFF AND LETTING YOU GUYS OPERATE THAT IN THE WAY THAT YOU ALL KNEW WAS CORRECT. WE STILL HAVE A 98% SATISFACTION RATE, SO THANK YOU. THE, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO SET US UP FOR LONG TERM SUCCESS WITHIN FOUR B AND WITHIN THE REC CENTER, BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES US THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO REFRESH AND UPDATE THE OFFERINGS WITHIN THE BUILDING. WE LIKE TO SAY MORE MONEY, MORE MISSION. SO THE REPORT CARD FOR THE REC CENTER THIS YEAR, REC PASSES, THE BENCHMARK FOR REC PASS SALES WAS 634 000. BUT WE BROUGHT IN 802,000 MERCHANDISE. HUGE JUMP. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. WHAT CHANGED THERE? JUMPED UP TO 27.5. WE ONE OF THE TASKS THAT THE STAFF HAD THIS YEAR WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE NOT ONLY ARE WE RECOVERING ALL OF THAT COST ON THE MERCHANDISE, BUT FOCUSING ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WANTING TO BUY. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND WE'VE ALSO STREAMLINED SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES. WE'RE NOT MERCHANDISE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PARKS AND REC PEOPLE. BUT THE STAFF HAVE REALLY FIGURED THAT OUT THIS YEAR. OUR RENTALS EXCEEDED OUR $30,000 BENCHMARK BY JUST A LITTLE BIT, 33,000. OUR ACTIVITIES OUR BENCHMARK WAS 309. WE BROUGHT IN 395,768. AND THEN OUR ACTIVITY MAKE RATE IS WITHIN THE BENCHMARK OF 71%. AND WITH THAT, I DO WANT TO EXPLAIN LIKE WE WANT THINGS TO FAIL BECAUSE THAT MEANS WHAT WE'RE TRYING THINGS. SO WE DON'T EVER WANT THIS TO BE ABOVE 80%, BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT TRYING NEW THINGS, AND IT'S FOR US TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND EXIST. WE DO NEED TO TRY NEW THINGS. SO THAT'S 71. THAT'S NOT A SCARY NUMBER. THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. WE CAN'T ALL STILL BE DOING THE RICHARD SIMMONS WORKOUT. YEAH WE COULD. YOU HAVE TO INNOVATE AS IT CHANGES OVER TIME. AND THEN OUR NEW ACTIVITIES FOR THIS LAST YEAR WAS AT 21%. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW. SO 21 IS A GOOD NUMBER. SO AS I GET INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT IS THIS IS WHAT, WHERE WE WILL START TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AT THE REC CENTER A FEW YEARS AGO. SO JUST A REFRESHER, BACK IN 2021 STAFF AND COUNCIL STARTED LOOKING AT, WE WERE ANALYZING THE FEES AND LOOKING WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE OUR [02:05:03] RECOVERY RATE FOR THE REC CENTER, AGAIN, WITH THE INTENT OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE MORE OF THAT MONEY AND DO MORE WITH IT TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS. SO AT THE TIME, WE WERE HOVERING AROUND THE 50% MARK ON RECOVERY, AND WE WANTED TO GET THAT UP OVER 60% IS WHERE WE LANDED. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL IN, THAT'S NOT JUST THE DIRECT COST, BUT THE INDIRECT AS WELL. SO STAFF AND COUNCIL WORKED, YOU KNOW, ON CHANGING OUR PHILOSOPHY ON HOW WE WERE GOING TO SET OUR FEES. WE WANTED THOSE, THOSE FEES TO NOT JUST COVER MORE COST. BUT WE FOUND SOME THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS ALONG THE WAY THAT KIND OF HELPED TO SUPPORT THAT. SO ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAD TO DO WAS CHANGE THE FEE ORDINANCE. IT WAS VERY DATED AND IT RESTRICTED US. IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE ATHLETIC FEES HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT WE FIRST APPROACHED THE FEE ORDINANCE, WHICH ALLOWS STAFF THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE MARKET AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND DO PROMOTIONS AS WE AS NEEDED. WE ADDRESSED ALL THE FEES ACROSS THE BOARD BY INCREASING THEM. WE ALSO DECIDED TO DRIVE AUTO RENEW PAST SALES MORE. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL AND TO STAFF TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER OF THE ANNUAL PASSES AND PUSH PEOPLE MORE TOWARDS THE AUTO RENEW, BUT WE NEEDED TO MAKE THE AUTO RENEW MORE PALATABLE THAN THE ANNUAL, WHICH WE DID THAT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART THAT HAD A BIG IMPACT, THE VALUE ADDED PROGRAMS AND CLASSES, WE WERE ALREADY, WHEN WE STARTED TWEAKING THOSE PASS FEES, ALREADY STARTING TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE ACTIVITIES. AND NOW WE'RE WELL OVER 100% RECOVERY ON ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO MEANING THAT FOR BEES NOT HAVING TO SUBSIDIZE ANY OF THAT, THE USERS ARE PAYING FOR WHAT THEY'RE RECEIVING. THE REC PASSHOLDER DISCOUNTS WERE EXPANDED, AND THEN COUNCIL RECOMMENDED THAT WE ALSO ADD A SUMMER PASS, WHICH THE PARENTS REALLY DO APPRECIATE BECAUSE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE LOCKED IN BEYOND THOSE THREE MONTHS OF SUMMER, BUT THEY DO WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THAT PASS FOR THEIR KIDS SO THEY CAN GO INTO THE GYM RIGHT AFTER CAMP. SO IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WITH COUNCIL, I PROBABLY I LOOKED AT THE LIST BEFORE THIS MEETING. I HAD PROBABLY 50 OTHER THINGS THAT WE DID THAT WERE MUCH SMALLER. THESE HAD THE BIGGEST IMPACT. BUT JUST KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL, THE STAFF BECAME MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH BENCHMARKING AND TRACKING AND ANALYZING PARTICIPATION IN REVENUE. STARTED REALLY HONING IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ONE YEAR BUSINESS PLANS, NOT JUST AT THE REC CENTER, BUT WE'VE STARTED DOING THAT ACROSS THE BOARD. I TALKED ABOUT THE MERCHANDISE PRICING THAT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY, AND NOW WE STAY ABOVE THE 60% RECOVERY RATE FOR THE REC CENTER. AND THAT IS BOTH THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT COST FOR THE REC CENTER. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REC CENTER STUFF BEFORE WE MOVE INTO DOES NOT APPEAR. SO LET ME SEE IF I HAD EVERYTHING. OH I DID WANT TO POINT OUT TO I KNOW WE HAD SOME INITIAL CONCERNS ABOUT IF WE WOULD LOSE ANY OF OUR UNIQUE USERS OR RESIDENTS. WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE AN INCREASE OF 17% SO THAT IT WAS STILL PALATABLE. THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, 78% OF OUR PASS HOLDERS ARE RESIDENTS, AND 76% OF THE REVENUE COMES FROM THE RESIDENT GENERATED USER FEES. AND I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN HAD ONE QUESTION. YOU MAY HAVE THIS HERE, AND I JUST MAY BE MISSING IT. OKAY. WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE DIRECT FEES THAT YOU RECEIVE VERSUS TOTAL COST. SO IS THERE A PERCENTAGE THERE? IS IT ON THAT ONE CIRCLE CHART? I THINK I HEARD YOU FOR JUST THE REC CENTER OR JUST FOR EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. SO ON THE IF YOU GO BACK, I THINK YOU SAID IT. I JUST WANT TO HAVE YOU POINT IT TO ME. SO I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT IT. SO THE ALL IN IS ON THE FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT THAT TOTAL EXPENSE IN THE MIDDLE. THE 9 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? OKAY, SO THAT'S THE TOTAL EXPENSE. SO WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT IS FEES RECEIVED. THE USER FEES ARE. [02:10:09] UP IN THAT TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER FOR USER FEES 15% RIGHT HERE. THAT NUMBER IS 1.3 MILLION. OKAY. SO SO WE ARE GETTING 15% OF OUR TOTAL COST IN USER FEES ACROSS THE BOARD, 15% OF OUR TOTAL COST, 50% WE GET BEFORE. YEAH, THIS IS JUST ON THE REC CENTER. OKAY. THE REC CENTER FOR ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERYTHING. SO ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERYTHING BECAUSE PARKS IS, YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T GETTING USER FEES THERE. SO ACROSS THE BOARD, YEAH, I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I GUESS, LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION. SO THE, THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE USERS IN FEES, ACROSS THE BOARD, ATHLETIC FIELDS, ALL OF IT COMPARED TO THE TOTAL COST THAT PARKS AND REC BUDGET IS. RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT PERCENTAGE? SO IT'S THE 15% PLUS. SO THAT 1% FROM PLUS ONE. SO 16% IS WHAT WE GET IN REVENUE. IN FEES COMPARED TO FEES CORRECT. DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT TO CORRECT. YES. YES. SORRY. NO NO NO THAT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND NOW. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, SIR? I'M GOOD. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM HAD A QUESTION OR COMMENT AS WELL. I DID. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE RENEWALS? I KNOW THE FAMILY RENEWAL PASSES HAVE GONE UP. 20% LIKE FOR THE FAMILY PASS. BUT ON THE INDIVIDUAL RENEWALS, I GUESS, OR MONTHLY RENEWALS, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE THEM SPLIT LIKE A RETENTION. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A RETENTION NUMBER? DO YOU HAVE THAT RETENTION NUMBER WITH YOU? IF YOU DO, IT'S NOT A I DON'T THINK WE HAVE. DON'T YOU JUST SEND US AN EMAIL, SEND IT TO YOU. I REMEMBER SEEING THAT IT WAS HIGH, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER WAS. I ASSUMED. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW. AND THEN WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE A SURVEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY KEEP TRACK OF, THAT THEY GIVE US A FEEDBACK OF WHAT KEEPS THEM COMING BACK. WE SHOULD ADD THAT. YES, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE SURVEY. SEND THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ALSO, WE DO HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT'S BEEN APPROVED IN THE LAST FEW REMAINING IN THE TOP TEN ITEMS, WHICH YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ARE SOME SORT OF A WATER ELEMENT POOL LAKE AMPHITHEATER, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, WHICH WE DO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS, AND THEN ADDITIONAL ATHLETIC FIELDS. OKAY, SO THAT BRINGS US TO OUR FINAL SLIDE. SO AT THE LAST DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION LAST YEAR THERE WAS JUST SOME VERY, VERY EARLY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL ABOUT THE ATHLETIC FEES. SO SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SEVERAL OF OUR SISTER CITIES. ALL OF THE CITY SEEMS TO BE KIND OF GOING THROUGH AN ATHLETIC FEE RECKONING RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE FINDING THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THE RECOVERY IS NOT GREAT. AND WE WANT TO PUSH THAT MONEY AS FAR AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH IT. SO STAFF STARTED PRETTY SOON AFTER THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. REACHING OUT TO THOSE CITIES, SEVERAL OF THEM HAD JUST CHANGED. THEIR FEES WERE STARTING TO INCREASE THEM. AND SO IN PREPARATION FOR THIS, WE WENT BACK TO THEM AGAIN. SOME OF THEM HAVE HAD TO INCREASE THEM TWO TIMES SINCE THEN BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING MORE DATA IN. AND DECIDING THAT THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT WORKING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO, AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS WHAT I DO NEED TO GET FROM Y'ALL TONIGHT IS IN REGARDS TO LIKE OUR CURRENT COST RECOVERY MODEL. WHERE DO YOU KIND OF SEE THOSE ELEMENTS FITTING IN? BECAUSE THEN WE CAN TAKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING FROM THESE OTHER CITIES, WHAT WE KNOW TO BE OUR EXPENSES AND LOOK AT SOME VARIATIONS OF HOW WE CAN GET THERE. AND THEN I CAN BRING THAT BACK AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN REGARDING THOSE FEES. SO CURRENTLY OUR AND THIS IS TYPICAL FOR MOST CITIES IS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUTH REC LEAGUES ARE KIND OF THE ONE THAT WE EXPECT TO BE VERY MUCH SUBSIDIZED FILLED RENTALS. NO, NOT SO MUCH. AND THEN A LOT OF CITIES ARE OFFERING TOURNAMENTS, WHICH WE ARE NOT DOING AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN PUT ON THE RADAR TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT FIT IN WITH WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. [02:15:06] SO JUST SO YOU KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THE OTHER CITIES ARE LANDING AND THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE ON RECOVERY. THEY ALSO, WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE RECOVERY LIKE OF A DIRECT COST IS NOT THE SAME FOR EVERY CITY. IT DOES VARY BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'RE FUNDED. SO IN GENERAL, YOUTH REC LEAGUES ARE HOVERING AROUND THE 50% MARK. SORRY. GO AHEAD. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT OTHER DIRECT COSTS. COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT JUST A BIT? YEAH. SO FOR DIRECT COSTS FOR US, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIELD MAINTENANCE, THE STAFFING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE USING THE APPLICATION UTILITIES, WHICH WE ACTUALLY SEPARATE LIGHTS FROM WATER. WE DO A LIGHTING FEE. SO REALLY JUST ANYTHING THAT IF WE TOOK THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET, THAT PROGRAM GOES AWAY. SO IF THE, OR IF THE PROGRAM GOES AWAY, THOSE EXPENSES GO AWAY. SO THE, A LOT OF THE CITIES FOR YOUTH REC LEAGUE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 50% COST RECOVERY. THE PRIVATE RENTALS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY GOING TO BE LIKE THE SELECT LEAGUES, THOSE ARE 84% PLUS ON RECOVERY. AND AND THEN TOURNAMENTS, GENERALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS 116% COST RECOVERY. THE HIGHEST WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IS 125 IN, IN OUR AREA, UNDER 25% RECOVERY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION IN RELATION TO THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO HOW MUCH COST IS GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIELD. DO YOU ALL HAVE THOSE ESTIMATES AS WELL? I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT WITH ME. WE HAVE IT. I JUST YEAH, I DIDN'T BRING IT. I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF IT BECAUSE SO CITY IS SOMEHOW ONLY ASSIGNING $1,000 A YEAR TO A FIELD. THEY MAY AND SOMEONE ELSE IS 10,000. YOUR RECOVERY IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT. THAT MIGHT BE THE SAME DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT IT'S VERY MUCH WHAT WE'RE FINDING TOO IS, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR PHILOSOPHY IS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE CITY TO THE NEXT. SO WHEN WE START, WHEN I BRING FEES BACK AND WHEN WE TALK FEES, THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT. I WOULD SAY, OKAY, DO YOU ALL WANT TO RECOVER THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS AND THAT WOULD GET US TO THAT, YOU KNOW, MAGIC RECOVERY RATE THAT WE WANT TO GET OR, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE IT FROM A DIFFERENT APPROACH. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION. SO MOST OF OUR FIELDS, HOW ARE THEY MAINTAINED RIGHT NOW? I KNOW WE HAVE REC LEAGUES THAT ARE USING SOME OF OUR FIELDS AND WHATNOT. YOU KNOW, SOCCER, BASEBALL, CRICKETS, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER. YEAH. ALL THE FIELDS OUT THERE. HOW ARE THEY MAINTAINED? DO WE HAVE A SUBCONTRACTOR THAT MAINTAINS THEM, CLEANS THEM, CUTS THE GRASS? I DON'T KNOW. WATERS THEM OUT OR HOW DO HOW DO HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? DO WE HAVE WE HAVE STAFF THAT MAINTAIN THOSE FIELDS THAT THEY'RE KEPT TO A CERTAIN STANDARD. OKAY. BUT NOTHING ELSE ABOVE IT. NO. AND DIRECT COST INCLUDES THAT STAFF OR DOES IT INCLUDE TO SOME DEGREE? YES. YES. TO SOME DEGREE, YEAH. DOES IT INCLUDE NOT ALL THEY DO. YEAH. OKAY. DOES IT INCLUDE THE SUPPORTING STAFF AS WELL FROM NOT ONLY THE DIRECT INFIELD STAFF BUT THE FIELD THAT'S OFF FIELD THAT DOES A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND WORK. IF THEY'RE IN, WE'RE INCLUDING COSTS THAT HAPPEN INSIDE THE PARK. SO LIKE THE RESTROOMS HAVE TO GET CLEANED UP, THE TRASH HAS TO GET PICKED UP. ALL OF THAT STUFF WOULD BE. BUT I THINK HE'S SAYING IT'S NOT INCLUDING OVERHEAD. SO FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S MANAGEMENT FEE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S A PORTION OF YOUR SALARY WOULD NOT BE DIVIDED DOWN INTO THAT. YES. CORRECT. AND I APOLOGIZE. I SHOULD HAVE SENT THESE QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND. SO I KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BRING THESE THESE THINGS ARE COMING UP AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I JUST HOPE THIS DON'T TAKE IT AS A PRESSURE LIKE TO ACHIEVE. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PRODUCE THEM RIGHT AWAY. YEAH. WE'RE JUST KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THINGS AND TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SENDING SOME OF THESE. NO. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO. LET'S SEE. SO SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT I'LL BRING BACK WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT FEES. AS YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT PEAK VERSUS NON-PEAK? DO WE NEED TO DO LIKE A TIERED APPROACH WHERE YOU'RE GETTING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF MAINTENANCE OR SERVICE? AT A CERTAIN PRICE POINT? WE DID SEE SOME OF THE CITIES WITH YOUTH REC LEAGUES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A POINT WHERE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SUBSIDIZE SOMETHING AND TO HELP THOSE YOUTH REC LEAGUES CUT THEIR COSTS [02:20:07] AND KIND OF NEGOTIATE THAT RENTAL FEE FOR THEM. LIKE THEY DON'T GET LIGHTS OR THEY DON'T GET TRASH PICKUP, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEN WITH LIKE TOURNAMENTS, WE COULD DO ADD ONS, WE CAN CHARGE THAT STUFF EXTRA. WE CAN DO THAT WITH RENTALS TOO. SO AGAIN, IT'S, WE CAN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST KIND OF WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. WE CAN TAKE IT WHEREVER WE WANT TO GO. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ASK. SURE. HOW ARE THE OTHER SISTER CITIES MANAGING THE FIELD USAGE, LIKE HOW ARE DO THEY HAVE STAFFERS THAT THEIR STAFF, FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT IS MANAGING THE FIELD? THEY'RE ALL TREATING THEM LIKE RENTALS WHERE THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING THE MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING UP TO AND THEN THE RENTAL, A LOT OF NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE RESPONSIBLE. YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR OWN, THEY CAN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN TRASH PICKUP AND THEIR OWN CONCESSION CLEANUP, ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEN THE STAFF JUST COME BACK AFTER. BUT THEN SOME OF THEM HAVE LIKE AN ADD ON WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A STAFF PERSON THERE. CALENDAR WISE, THOUGH, THE STAFF IS DOING IT, THE CITY STAFF IS MANAGING THE CALENDAR BETWEEN WHEN THE REC IS USING IT, WHEN THE TOURNAMENT IS USING IT, WHEN ALL THAT IS BEING USED OR IS THAT BEING HOW IS THAT DONE? SO THEY'RE BOOKING OUT. THEY'RE BOOKING OUT EITHER AS LIKE A YOUTH REC LEAGUE BLOCK, AND THEN THE LEAGUE WILL HAVE TO SCHEDULE IT THEMSELVES AMONGST THEIR COACHES OR THEY'RE TREATING IT AS A RENTAL TO LIKE A SELECT LEAGUE. AGAIN, WE'RE JUST RENTING IT TO YOU. THEY'RE DEALING WITH WHATEVER THE SCHEDULING HAPPENS THERE. OKAY. AND THEN TOURNAMENT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. LIKE WE WOULD BOOK OUT THE ENTIRE DAY OR TWO DAYS OR WHATEVER. AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO SCHEDULE. IT DEPENDS ON THE VARIANCES THAT WE DO BASED ON, YOU KNOW, BIG TOURNAMENT. DO THEY NEED SECURITY? DO THEY? YES. YEAH. THERE'S ALL THAT STUFF THAT GETS FACTORED IN AND SOME EVEN SOME OF THE BIGGER TOURNAMENTS, THEY'LL CONTRACT OUT THEIR OWN HELP TO RUN THOSE BECAUSE THOSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG ORDEAL. SO IF I'M CORRECT, OUR SOFTBALL LEAGUE, WE DO HAVE A SOFTBALL LEAGUE, BUT WE ALSO DO SOME SORT OF RENTAL TO SELECT TEAMS. SOFTBALL. IS THAT CORRECT? CURRENTLY OR WE DON'T RENT. WE DON'T HAVE SELECT RIGHT NOW OUT THERE, DO WE? I THINK SO. DO OTHER TEAMS RENT SOFTBALL FIELDS OR. NO. WHAT DID YOU SAY, BRANT? OH THE TOURNAMENT. YEAH. OKAY. SO SELECT TOURNAMENTS. YES. SO WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. MINIMAL. YES. MINIMAL. YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN TRAINING AS A RENTAL. YEAH. CORRECT. DO WE HAVE ANY DIRECT COST RECOVERY BASED ON THOSE TOURNAMENTS AT ALL OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE OR NO. WE DO HAVE STAFF WORKING OVERTIME RIGHT NOW. THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE TRASH AND THE CLEANING UP AND ON CALL, BUT I ASSUME WE HAVEN'T SET A SEPARATE FEE SCHEDULE FOR THEM AT THIS POINT. NO. OKAY. SO IT'S THE SAME. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE REALLY STARTING IT. OKAY. AROUND THE BASE LEVEL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK THIS EVENING ON GENERAL DIRECTION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AGAIN, JUST FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT YOUTH REC LEAGUES ARE SOMEWHERE IN THAT 30 TO 80, HOWEVER NARROW Y'ALL WANT TO GET THAT OR IF Y'ALL WANT TO PUT THEM IN COURT OR EVEN EVALUATE IT, THAT'S FINE TOO. IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN FOR FIELD RENTALS, I PUT THEM AT THE TOP. I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I SAID THAT SOME OF THEM ARE GOING 84%, 85%, BUT I THINK WE COULD GO HIGHER THAN THAT ON RECOVERY IF YOU'RE OPEN TO IT. AND THEN TOURNAMENTS DEFINITELY NEED TO BE GENERATING SOME REVENUE IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE. OKAY. SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO STATE ANYTHING ELSE. I THINK I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT. NOW OBVIOUSLY I'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL BRING MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S PLAYING INTO DETERMINING THE PERCENTAGES. I WANT US TO STAY COMPETITIVE. I THINK KEEPING I'M MUCH MORE OPEN TO SUBSIDIZING, SO TO SPEAK, THE YOUTH REC LEAGUES TO ENSURE THAT THOSE REMAIN REASONABLY AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A SPORT. WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AT THE SELECT TEAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, AGAIN, COMPETITIVE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. AND IF THEY'RE CHARGING 84% RECOVERY AND WE'RE CHARGING 11, THAT IS A MAJOR, MAJOR GAP IN THERE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE TREATING THAT FAIRLY BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY LARGE INVESTMENTS ARE MADE INTO THOSE TEAMS AND THEY MAKE THEM INTO ELSEWHERE. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF STRICTLY VOLUNTEER. I KNOW PEOPLE GIVE TIME, ETC. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S AN ECONOMIC COMPONENT TO THOSE THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM A YOUTH LEAGUE. [02:25:01] AND THEN YES, ANYTHING TOURNAMENT WISE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RUNNING THOSE AT 11% OR 30% MIGHT EVEN BE LOWER IF WE'RE HAVING TO PAY OVERTIME RIGHT NOW. SO YOU KNOW, ON THOSE, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, IT NEEDS TO BE CREATING A RETURN TO THE CITY ON THOSE BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT A FUNDING MECHANISM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE IF IF WE ALLOW TIME FOR TOURNAMENTS, YOU'RE LOCKING OUT YOUR YOUTH LEAGUES AND YOUR OTHER FIELD USERS. SO THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY COST, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEAK TIMES. THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THOSE MONDAY, TUESDAY NORMALLY. SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND GET THOSE PEAK TIMES, MOST OF THEM AREN'T PUTTING THEM ON FOR OUT OF JUST THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEART EITHER. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO I WOULD WANT TO SEE US ABOVE THAT 100%, AS MENTIONED. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PICKENS THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING INTO THIS, I, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THE BASELINE OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND I WOULD LIKE TO. YES. SO SOME HOMEWORK, IF YOU WILL THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK AND LET ME. I WROTE THIS DOWN. OH, GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A DELTA AND THE DELTA IS ASSOCIATED WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND ACTIVITIES, WITH FEES COLLECTED, WHICH HAS THE HIGHEST DELTA OF FEES COLLECTED TO FUNDS EXPENDED. SO I MAY NOT HAVE SAID THAT COMPLETELY CLEARLY, BUT WHAT I'M WANTING TO UNDERSTAND IS ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE COMING TO US AND USING OUR FACILITIES AND THE ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND RANKING THE HIGHEST DELTA OF FEES COLLECTED TO COST. OKAY. AND LIKE MAYBE THE TOP TEN, JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND ACTIVITIES ARE SO WE CAN FOCUS APPROPRIATELY. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND IN GENERAL, GIVEN OBVIOUSLY MORE DETAILS, HER QUESTION ON SETTING A BRACKET TO COME BACK TO US FOR REVIEW. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE GENERAL? OH, YES. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THE BASELINE OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND THAT WILL HELP ME IN THE DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD. OKAY. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANKS, MAYOR. WELL, I THINK I'M PROBABLY FROM THE COUNCIL'S STANDPOINT, I'M ONE OF THE MOST AFFECTED ON THESE ATHLETIC FIELDS BECAUSE WE'RE OUT THERE. MY MY WIFE HAS TURNED INTO AN UBER DRIVER BETWEEN MY TWO KIDS AND TAKING THEM EVERY TOURNAMENT THERE IS. AND THEY SEEM TO BE SCHEDULING THEM AT THE SAME TIME. YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERY KID SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SPORTS. NOT ALL ARE BLESSED TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE TO A DIFFERENT TEAM AND ABILITY TO MAYBE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AND BETTER. BUT I THINK ANYTIME WE CAN GET KIDS OUT THERE ON THE FIELD AND HAVE THEM ABILITY TO PLAY AND HAVE ABILITY NOT TO BE ON THEIR PHONES AND WHATEVER ELSE THINGS WE CAN DO, I DO FEEL THAT IT'S A NEED. SO I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE THAT PASSION ABOUT HAVING KIDS OUT THERE AND PLAYING AND DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. SO I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM SUSTAINABILITY. AND THERE HAS TO BE A FINE BALANCE BETWEEN OUR COLLEAGUES AND THE CITY AND THE MONEY THAT ALL THE CITIZENS THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS ARE PAYING FOR OUR TAXES AND ABILITY TO TO COMBINE THAT, THAT EXPENSE. I DO FEEL THAT SOME OF THESE LEAKS SINCE COVID NOW HAVE BECOME ECONOMIC GENERATION, ECONOMIC GENERATING POWERS IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD FOR THEIR OWN CITIES. EVERY TIME WE GO TO A TOURNAMENT, YOU KNOW, OUR CREDIT CARDS GET PRETTY FULL BY THE TIME WE COME BACK. AND I DO FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE FEES THAT WE NEED TO RECOVER. I DO AS WE ARE MOVING INTO A BOND SEASON. AND SINCE WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN DISCUSSION, I DO FEEL LIKE THE USAGE AND THE YIELD OF OUR FIELDS, AND I'D LIKE SOME EXPERT OPINION FROM YOUR STAFF AND YOU ABOUT HOW LONG CAN WE KEEP OUR FIELDS IF WE'RE GOING TO OVERUSE THEM. YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO REC LEAGUES, TOURNAMENTS, RENTALS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TO TURF THEM OUT, OR ARE WE GOING TO USE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY PARK FIELDS ON, ON THE LOWER, I GUESS I'D SAY ON THE BELOW AREA, BELOW THE PARKING LOT. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THOSE, AND CAN WE TURN THEM INTO A RENTAL FEE? THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE DISTANCES AND ALL THE PARAMETERS OF HAVING A FULL FIELD TO PRACTICE, BUT YOU HAVE MAJORITY OF IT IS NOT 300FT, IT'S 290FT. AND YOU CAN STILL PRACTICE AND YOU CAN HAVE A FULL PRACTICE ON THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BIGGER PICTURE OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE YIELD OF INVESTING THIS MUCH MONEY ON TURFING OR [02:30:04] HAVING THE ABILITY TO USE THE FIELD 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK VERSUS ABILITY TO BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE TOURNAMENTS CANCEL IF WE'RE DOING JUST GRASS. AND SO WE MAY THINK WE'RE RECOVERING 100%, BUT WE'RE GOING TO RECOVER ZERO. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE PARAMETERS SET. I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO ON RENTALS AND ON WE HAVE RENTALS, WE HAVE CAGES. WE HAVE PRACTICE FACILITIES, WE HAVE TOURNAMENTS. I THINK OUR CITY SHOULD COVER RECOVER 100%, IF NOT MORE THAN THAT, AND THEN FIND A, FIND A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN THE REC LEAGUE AND THE CITY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. YOU KNOW, AND I'M FULLY UNDERSTANDABLE THAT AND I WANT TO SAY THIS AT POINT TOO, IN OUR RECORD LEAGUES, WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE NOT FROM THE CITY OF WHYALLA AS WELL THAT PLAY IN OUR REC LEAGUES. AND SO THEY'RE USING THE FACILITIES AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS USING. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL KIDS THAT ARE IN AROUND, WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL PARKS AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THEM, BUT AT A CERTAIN COST BECAUSE AS THE BUDGET SEASON COMES, WE ALL GET STRUGGLED AND WE ALL KIND OF GET TIED UP ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FIT EVERYTHING WITHIN THE BUDGET. YEAH. SO THAT'S MY SPIEL. MAYOR. AND I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN HOOVER FEEDBACK ON HER PROPOSED STRATIFICATION OF RECOVERY. SO TO KIND OF RECAP, SHE TALKED ABOUT YOUTH REC LEAGUE CAN END UP ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 50% IN SURROUNDING CITIES. AND THEN IT'S TYPICALLY 80% PLUS FOR THE SELECT AND THEN 100% PLUS FOR TOURNAMENTS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY BRING US MORE INFORMATION, BUT IS THAT THE RIGHT TRACK OR DO YOU WISH SOMETHING ELSE? I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I WOULD LIKE MUCH LIKE GINO SAID TO UNDERSTAND SOME MORE OF THOSE BUT I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK PERSONALLY. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I WOULD I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT YOU CAN INCORPORATE THE VOLUME OF SELECT LEAGUE VERSUS REC LEAGUE SO THAT WHILE ONE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, COST FACTOR BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF USE, THERE'S ALSO TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE VOLUME OF KIDS THAT ARE IN EACH SO THAT, YOU KNOW, A SMALL GROUP OF OF CITIZENS DON'T CONTROL A LARGE, YOU KNOW, AND AN UNEQUAL AMOUNT OF TIME. RIGHT. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IT JUST NOT GET TOO COMPLICATED. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF FAIRLY EASY TO FIGURE OUT. YEAH. FROM FROM ME, OF ALL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? BUT I GOT FULL FAITH. YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT. YOU'VE DONE AMAZING IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND YOU'RE JUST INCREDIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MORE THAN FOUR. IT'S JUST TIME GETS AWAY FROM ME. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PICKENS, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD FURTHER? THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU LEANING IN TO AND POINTING OUT A SITUATION THAT NEEDS ATTENTION AND LEANING INTO OFFERING SOLUTIONS TO RESOLVE IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M EXCITED TO GET THIS ONE FIXED UP. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRING. I LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING IN. WHAT'S REALLY STRIKING TO ME IS, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, THINGS WERE A LOT DIFFERENT COMING OUT OF COVID. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY NICE TURNAROUND HERE, HIGHER THAN I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND COUNCILMAN DUKE. YEAH, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND VERY NICE TURNAROUND FROM COVID. I LIKE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THAT HOPEFULLY KIND OF GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MORE INFO FROM US AND DIRECTION FOR YOU. IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND PRIORITIES AND WHERE WE WANT TO PUT SOME FOCUS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. THANKS FOR KNOWING HOW TO WORK THOUGH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. JUST LEAVE IT THERE. I'M SURE CHIEF BLYTHE WILL. OH, YEAH, HE CAN DEAL WITH IT. HAVE HAVE. HAVE FUN WITH IT. TURN THE LITTLE BUTTON ON. BUT WITH THAT, THAT'LL COMPLETE WORK. SESSION TWO. WHICH, OF COURSE, WAS OUR ANNUAL PARKS AND RECREATION. OVERVIEW. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO WORK SESSION THREE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES FOR CONSIDERATION AND UPCOMING BOND [WS3. Discuss Potential Public Safety Facilities for Consideration in Upcoming Bond Election. ] ELECTION. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'LL BE THE PRESENTER. CHIEF, THE CHIEF HENDERSON IS HERE FOR FOR BACKUP IF WE NEED HIM. SO WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER TODAY AND LAST WEEK AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO BRING THIS BACK BEFORE YOU AND HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY NEEDS. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH THE RECAP FROM THE DIRECTION WE GOT LAST MEETING. HOPEFULLY THIS SLIDES, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF NOT, THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION MAY NOT MAY NOT, [02:35:03] MAY NOT BE TOO WELL RECEIVED BY Y'ALL, BUT IS THIS A GOOD USE OF THE LAND? THAT THAT WAS ONE QUESTION THAT WE HAD. CURRENT STATION TWO MOVING TO BUILDING EITHER A NEW ONE OR MODIFYING THE CURRENT STATION TWO AS THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING PROVIDE A MENU OF OPTIONS FOCUS ON LONG TERM SOLUTIONS AND A PHASED APPROACH. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE TOOK LAST TIME. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TAILORED THIS THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION TO. SO RECAP OF OF OUR FACILITY NEEDS FIRE STATION TWO WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME. WE WON'T GO ALL THROUGH, THROUGH ALL THOSE AGAIN. I THINK THE BIGGEST THINGS THERE ARE THE COED BEDROOMS. AND I THINK THE THE FRONT LINE APPARATUS NOT BEING HOUSED IN THE, IN THE FRONT OF THE STATION THERE. IT'S IN THE BACK BUILDING. BOTH, BOTH OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY DRIVING FACTORS TO THIS. AND THEN A FUTURE STAFFED AMBULANCE THAT WE, THAT WE HOPE TO DO IN 2029 BASED ON, ON CALL VOLUME. SO AND THEN FIRE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE SPACE. WE'RE THREE OFFICES SHORT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE PEOPLE HOUSED IN DISPATCH? NO WAREHOUSE STORAGE, RECEIVING DELIVERY AREAS TRAINING WITH OUR NEW NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH AT FIRE STATION TWO. IF WE LEAVE THE TRAINING CENTER THERE, AS I TOLD YOU LAST TIME. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO TO SOME CLASS B OR PROPANE BURN PROPS STILL UTILIZE THE FACILITY THAT WE HAVE, BUT JUST EXPAND THAT AND ADD THAT TO IT. AND THEN FLEET, WE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE A FACILITY FOR FLEET. BUT MAYBE WE COULD USE THAT BACK BUILDING AND REPURPOSE THAT OR MAYBE EXPAND IT. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A RECAP. SAME SLIDE FROM LAST TIME. JUST TO RECAP OF OUR NEEDS. OUR PRIORITIES REMAIN THE SAME. OUR FIRE STATIONS FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, OUR TRAINING FACILITIES, SO WE CAN INVEST IN THEM. LOGISTICS FLEET FACILITY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS. AND FIRE ADMINISTRATION, ALTHOUGH IT'S LAST ON MY PRIORITY LIST, IT'S PROBABLY FIRST ON CHIEF HENDERSON'S AS THEY NEED SOME MORE SPACE AND THAT AFFECTS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE'VE GOT SOME ESCALATION BUILT IN THROUGH 2029 CONSTRUCTION, NOT COMPLETION. BUT WHEN WE WOULD, IF THESE PROJECTS WERE TO BE MAKE IT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE AND THEN WERE SENT TO THE VOTERS AND APPROVED, THEN THEN WE'VE GOT SOME ESCALATION BUILT IN THROUGH THAT. SO AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, THE THINGS WE ELIMINATED FROM THIS DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT, OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT COMPLETE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX THAT WASN'T POSSIBLE AT THIS TIME DUE TO BUDGET. WE ALSO LIMITED ELIMINATED FIRE STATION ONE, ALTHOUGH IT HAS NEEDS AND WE NEED TO TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT EVENTUALLY. WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ADDING ANY EQUIPMENT OR PERSONNEL THERE, SO THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY WORSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN OLDER FACILITY. A PERMANENT SOLUTION NEEDS TO BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FUTURE FIRE STATION FIVE. IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT TO SOME PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE SOUTH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH AND THEN ALL FRONT LINE EQUIPMENT IS IN THE, IN THE BASE OF THAT FIRE STATION. I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, TO REMEMBER AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AS IT'S MOSTLY FOCUSED ON FIRE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS IS THERE'S ALSO NO MONEY IN HERE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY RENOVATIONS OR REMODEL IF WE WERE TO VACATE THAT BUILDING BECAUSE WE DESIGNED THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE POLICE. AND SO CHIEF HENDERSON AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED TO MOVE SOME WALLS OR DO SOME THINGS. AND HE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT IF WE GET THAT FAR INTO THE DISCUSSION. BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY IN OUR ESTIMATES, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO COST FOR THAT. I THINK HE HAS SOME THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. SO, SO AFTER THE LAST MEETING, THESE ARE THE THINGS WE ELIMINATED FROM, FROM THIS PRESENTATION BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS IN THE RED ON THESE SLIDES WE'VE GOT A SOLUTION MATRIX. AND SO LONG TERM, I THINK THAT WAS A COUNCILMAN STRANG SAID, HEY, WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO LOOK AT SOME LONG TERM INVESTMENTS. SO LONG TERM IS 25 YEARS PLUS MEDIUM IS A 15 TO 20 YEAR SHORT TERM IS TEN YEARS OR TEN YEARS PLUS IN SOME CASES. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, THOSE ARE THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, THE MATRIX THAT WE USED ON ALL OF THESE ON ALL THESE ITEMS. SO I WANTED TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT HERE TO THIS TO, TO EVEN PROPOSING THIS IN, IN 2019, 2020, WE WERE LOOKING AT EXPANDING FIRE STATION TWO. ORIGINALLY, IRONICALLY, MAYOR PORTER BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER. IT WAS FOR THE LADDER TRUCK THAT, THAT WE, THE LADDER TRUCK THAT WE GOT. SO WE LOOKED AT REMODELING THAT FIRE STATION, THE REMODELING OF THAT FIRE STATION WAS GOING TO INCLUDE ADDING SOME NEW BAYS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT BIGGER PIECE OF APPARATUS AT THAT POINT IN 2019 IS ABOUT THREE OVER $3 MILLION TO ADD ON TO THAT FIRE STATION. AND AS I TOLD Y'ALL LAST MEETING THOSE, THOSE THAT STATION WAS BUILT IN 98. IT'S COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. SO IT'S A HOUSE WITH A BIG GARAGE. SO WE BROUGHT A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL. AND THAT PRESENTATION WAS, DO WE WANT TO INVEST IN THAT FIRE STATION AND EXPAND IT? [02:40:05] WE JUST ADDED THE LITTLE PIECE ON THE FRONT AT A MUCH CHEAPER COST TO, TO HOLD THE BIGGER FIRE APPARATUS. AND OR DO WE WANT TO LOOK LONG TERM AT OTHER SOLUTIONS? THAT OTHER SOLUTION? OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS DOING A MASTER PLAN OF THIS SITE, AND WE KIND OF TAGGED ON WITH THEM. AND THAT GREEN AREA UP THERE ALONG BROWN STREET BY THE DOTTED LINE. IT'S GOING TO BE TO THE RIGHT OF THE DOTTED LINE, THE GREEN AND RED AREA. THOSE WERE KIND OF EARMARKED FOR FUTURE PUBLIC SAFETY. IF WE EVER GOT TO THE POINT OF MOVING THAT. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO, TO USING THAT LAND. AGAIN, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, IS THIS A GOOD USE OF LAND? THIS, THIS WAS THE DIRECTION WE GOT FROM THAT. WE TOOK, WE TOOK THAT AND MADE THIS KIND OF, KIND OF JUST A, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD WAY THAT IT WOULD LAY OUT. SO BUILDINGS ONE THROUGH SIX THERE. OR FIRE OR SHARED SPACE. BUILDING SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE FUTURE PD IF THEY EVER MOVED AND THE SIX IS OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT OR THE YELLOW ORANGISH BUILDINGS. THOSE ARE WOULD, WOULD, COULD BE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT. SO HERE'S KIND OF THE MENU. MAYOR, MAYOR PORTER, I THINK YOU ASKED FOR THIS. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD SOME SQUARE FOOTAGES THAT WE HAD DONE SOME OF OUR OWN PROGRAMING. WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THOSE AND CUT, CUT ALL THOSE ALL THE WAY AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT WE COULD AND STILL PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. SO FIRE STATION TWO RELOCATION THAT PROPOSED THAT WE SHOW YOU LAST TIME WAS 17 WAS 21,000. WE CUT THAT TO 17 FIRE ADMINISTRATION EOC. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE CURRENT SPACE PROPOSED. AND THEN THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR TONIGHT'S FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. SO HERE WE'RE GETTING INTO KIND OF THE OPTIONS AND I KNOW THESE THESE SLIDES ARE BUSY, BUT WE TRIED TO PUT A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THEM. SO IN THE $21 MILLION RANGE, IF WE BUILT A NEW FIRE STATION TWO AND MADE CURRENT STATION TWO TRAINING, LOGISTICS AND FLEET SPENDING ABOUT 3 MILLION OVER THERE. FOR THOSE FACILITIES THAT'S, THIS IS THE CHEAPEST OPTION. AND IT ADDRESSES ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS RIGHT NOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FIRE STATION ONE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS DISCUSSION, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ANYTHING ELSE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ALL OF OUR, ALL THE OTHER SHARED SPACE THAT WE HAD IN THE, IN THE BIG FACILITY HAS BEEN REMOVED. SO DEFINITELY SOME LONG TERM INVESTMENTS. I FEEL LIKE FIRE STATION TWO ADDED ON TO FOR TRAINING AND LOGISTICS AND FLEET WOULD LAST FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GETTING THE USE THAT IT DOES DAY IN, DAY OUT LIKE IT DOES TODAY. SO I THINK, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LONG TERM INVESTMENT OVER THERE. AND WOULD ALLOW AND WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF OUR NEEDS, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ANYBODY ELSE'S. SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OPTION ONE. AND I'VE GOT THESE SUMMARIZED AT THE END. SO WE CAN DISCUSS THEM AND NOT HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH THESE SLIDES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR THINGS, PROS OR CONS OR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, PLEASE JUST STOP ME AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. YES. PRO TEM SORRY, MAYOR. THE OPTION ONE IS TO KEEP IT WHERE IT IS OR MOVE IT. SO THIS OPTION WOULD BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION, AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD KEEP THAT CURRENT TRAINING BUILDING TRAINING CENTER AND FIRE STATION. AND WE WOULD MAKE IT, WE WOULD MAKE IT LOGISTICS FLEET AND OUR TRAINING CENTER. SO WE WOULD BASICALLY USE IT AS TODAY WITH EXPANDING, WITH EXPANDING THE CURRENT TRAINING. FIXING SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES, FIXING SOME UTILITY ISSUES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT THE NEW ONE WOULD MOVE. THE FIRE STATION WOULD MOVE TO THIS PROPERTY. RIGHT? RIGHT HERE. YES, SIR. THAT'S FINE. AND I'VE GOT I'VE GOT A LOCATION BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LAST TIME AS WELL. SO. SO THIS THIS PARTICULAR OPTION, NEW FIRE STATION, THE CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO WE MAKE ABOUT A $3 MILLION INVESTMENT THERE AND THAT BECOMES TRAINING LOGISTICS FLEET WITH THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THAT BECOMING INVESTED IN THE NEW TRAINING CENTER. THIS OPTION IS AROUND 27 MILLION. I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY LIKE IT AND WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT. AND THERE'S ONE REASON WHY IT SEPARATES OUR NOW ON ONE CENTER FROM OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THEY'RE KEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VITAL AND KEY IN THAT OPERATION. AND SO OPERATIONALLY, IT WOULD PRODUCE SOME CHALLENGES. BUT WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD TO PUT IT IN HERE. AND SO WE WANTED TO PUT IT IN HERE AND BRING IT FORWARD. NEW FIRE STATION TWO SAME, SAME THING WOULD BE OVER HERE ON THIS THIS PLACE, WE WOULD EXPAND THE CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO AND REMODEL THE EXISTING BUILDING TO GIVE US THE SAME 9000FT² AS WE HAVE BEFORE. THE MAJORITY OF THAT REMODEL COST THAT 1.5 MILLION. [02:45:01] WE WOULD TAKE THE CURRENT BAYS AND MAKE THAT OFFICE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE ALL THE FIRE ADMIN PERSONNEL. DISPATCH WOULD STAY WHERE IT IS. PRETTY SHORT TERM SOLUTION FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS THEY'RE ONLY GAINING A FEW OFFICES. BUT DISPATCH WOULD STAY WHERE IT IS SO IT WOULDN'T FREE UP THAT SPACE FOR THEM. THEN WE WOULD ADD ON TO THE, TO THE CURRENT BUILDING IN THE BACK. THERE'S LONG TERM SOLUTION THERE FOR THE FIRE STATION, BUT ONLY A MEDIUM MEDIUM TERM FOR THE CURRENT STATION TWO MAINLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY, IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS ANYTHING OVER AT, IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY ROOM FOR EXPANSION. IT'S JUST WHAT WE NEED TODAY. SO THERE'S KIND OF A RUNDOWN OF CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO CONVERTED TO FIRE ADMINISTRATION. IT CURRENTLY HAS SIX BEDROOMS. WE CURRENTLY NEED 15. THE THE BAY WOULD BE CONVERTED. ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE ADDED. THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE EOC. WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD A HARDENED STRUCTURE FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THEN THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE IS JUST A RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S WHAT WE COULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM AI. SO WE COULD MAKE IT LOOK NICE. BUT BUT AGAIN, IT'S A PRETTY, IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT INTO THE CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO. WE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS LAST, LAST TIME ABOUT OUR CURRENT LOGISTICS AND TRAINING BUILDING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT TRAINING BUILDING. DOWN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT. THAT'S OUR NEW TRAINING TOWER. AND AS WE'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, WE DESIGNED THAT AND BUILT THAT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE EVER MOVE IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE? THAT BUILDING IN THE BACK WE JUST USED FOR STORAGE RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT A COVID ROOM THAT WE BUILT FOR COVID SUPPLIES THAT HAS BECOME OUR MS STORAGE. BUT IT'S REALLY JUST A WAREHOUSE. WE DID CLIMATE CONTROL THAT ONE AREA WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE STRUCTURE. SO I WANTED TO TALK, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAYOR PRO TEM THAT TALKED A LOT ABOUT ADDING A NEW FIRE ADMIN TO, TO OVER THERE. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF RUN THAT DOWN. SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS PICTURE IS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE FIRE STATION TWO PROPERTY. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS 200FT WIDE, 2000FT DEEP. SO EVERYTHING TO THE FRONT ARE THE CURRENT BUILDINGS, EVERYTHING THAT'S GRAY AND YELLOW OUTLINED IN THE BACK, THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL CONCRETE. WE WOULD STILL WANT TO EXPAND THE, THE CURRENT LOGISTICS BUILDING OR APPARATUS BUILDING, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING 50FT WIDE BY 180FT LONG. ALSO WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER DRIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY LINE. AND IF WE DID THAT, ANYBODY COMING TO FIRE ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH THE TRAINING FIELD. BUT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DRIVE OR TRY TO MANEUVER AROUND THE APPARATUS. SO IF THERE'S APPARATUS IN THE, IN THE BUILDING THERE TO THE RIGHT OF WHERE IT SAYS EXPANSION, THAT'S ABOUT A 60 FOOT APRON THERE. AND THE APPARATUS WE STORE BACK THERE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND LET'S, LET'S SAY 40 AND 55FT. AND SO IT WOULD BE PRETTY TOUGH FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO NAVIGATE OUR CITIZENS TO GET BACK TO FIRE ADMIN. SO FEASIBLE SOLUTION. WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE VERY PRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUILDING BEING, IF WE MADE IT 60FT WIDE IT WOULD DROP IT DOWN TO ABOUT 170FT, 150FT. AND SO IT'S IT'S PROBLEMATIC THERE AS WELL. SO I'LL LET THE MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, CHIEF. SO THE TRAINING FACILITY WE TALKED ABOUT IS MOVABLE. SO WE CAN PUT THE TRAINING FACILITY ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK IF WE CHOOSE THIS OPTION. IS THAT CORRECT? WE COULD I THINK WE'RE GOING TO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POUR QUITE A BIT OF CONCRETE. SO WE HAVE THIS, WE HAVE THIS MASTER PLANNED OUT ALL THE WAY WITH DIFFERENT TRAINING MODULES ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK. THE BIG THING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TOO IS DRAINAGE. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DRAIN. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THAT. AND THE OTHER THING IS THE CURRENT FIRE STATION IS ON. AT THE TIME, THE ONLY CITY SEWER WAS AT THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY AND THERE'S NO FALL IN THE PROPERTY. AND SO WHEN THEY PUT THE SEWER LINE IN, THERE'S A GRINDER PUMP THAT PUSHES THE, THE SEWER ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S SOME OPTIONS UP FRONT NOW ALONG ON COUNTRY CLUB, I THINK PROBABLY WITH SEWER THAT WE COULD REDO. BUT OF COURSE UNFORTUNATELY THAT COST MONEY. SO YEAH, I THINK ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE. WE COULD MOVE THAT STARTING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE NEW ONE, BUT WE WOULD, IT WOULD REQUIRE QUITE A BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET BACK THERE TO IT. WE WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND THE WATER LINES FOR THE FIRE HYDRANTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. OKAY. [02:50:03] SO HERE'S A, HERE'S AN OPTION WE CAME UP WITH AFTER THE LAST MEETING. AGAIN, THIS IS PRETTY, I DON'T WANT TO BE SELFISH. I'M GOING TO KEEP REPEATING THAT BECAUSE I SURE DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A BIND. BUT SO THIS WOULD, THIS IS IN THE $25 MILLION RANGE. SO NEW FIRE STATION TWO. WE THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE EXPAND THE CURRENT PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING IN THE FIRE ADMIN AREA. IT COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE SOME PARKING WHICH IS ALREADY AN ISSUE THERE. IN THE BACK SECURED PARKING AREA. IT DOES KEEP US WITH OUR 911 CENTER AND KEEP THE EOC TOGETHER. IT DOESN'T ADDRESS OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS. IT'S NOT A, I DON'T THINK IT'S A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR FIRE ADMINISTRATION. AND AGAIN, THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THERE ARE SOME LONG TERM INVESTMENTS THERE WITH THE NEW FIRE STATION. THE CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO EXPANSION, IF WE USED IT LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN MANY OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS, IF WE USED IT FOR OUR LOGISTICS AND TRAINING THERE ARE SOME, I THINK WE COULD GET SOME MEDIUM TERM MEDIUM TERM INVESTMENT THERE. BUT LONG TERM SOLUTION OVER AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T ADDRESS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS. THE LITTLE ADD ON THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT I'LL SHOW YOU. ALTHOUGH IT WOULD PROVIDE US A FEW MORE OFFICE SPACES, IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING HOLISTICALLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. SO WHERE WE THINK WE MIGHT CAN DO THAT IS WHERE THAT RED ARROW IS POINTING POINTING. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE WALMART SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THERE'S A, THERE'S A SMALL GRASSY AREA THERE WE WOULD ADD ABOUT 2000FT². IT WOULD LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO THE ADDITION WOULD BE IN THE RED AREA. IT'S OUTLINED THERE. SO WE WOULD ADD A FEW MORE OFFICES, A CONFERENCE ROOM, MOVE OUR INSPECTORS INTO MORE OF A BULLPEN TYPE ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN OUR CURRENT CONFERENCE ROOM, WHICH IS UP HERE ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN WOULD BECOME TWO OFFICES. AGAIN, ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS FOR INDIVIDUALLY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. BUT NOTHING, NOTHING ELSE FOR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN WE, WE, WE LOOKED AT THIS OPTION. SO THIS IS A MORE OF THE PHASED APPROACH. SO IF WE WE BUILT THE NEW FIRE STATION BUILT A NEW FIRE ADMINISTRATION EOC AT THE REDUCED SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUILT A NEW NINE ONE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER HERE ON THIS PROPERTY. CURRENT FIRE STATION TWO WOULD STILL BECOME TRAINING LOGISTICS AND FLEET. IF WE WANTED TO ADD THIS SECOND CITY HALL ENTRANCE FROM TALKING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS WITH THE MEDIA IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT. OBVIOUSLY THIS INVEST HEAVILY, HEAVILY IN THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT IT'S ALSO THE MOST EXPENSIVE ADDRESSES OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE THE FIRE STATIONS, KEEPS NUMBER ONE EOC TOGETHER. COMMUNICATION IS IN A BETTER LOCATION. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT, BUT OUR CURRENT NUMBER ONE CENTER IS, IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE WATER DISTRICT. IT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RAIL YARD, WHICH ARE PROBABLY OUR HIGHEST DANGER AREAS. AS FAR AS CHEMICALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO PUTS, PUTS THE NUMBER ONE CENTER AT A BETTER LOCATION ADDRESSES TRAINING AND FLEET ALSO ADDRESSES OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NEEDS AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO GO OVER WHERE THIS SITE IS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO THIS, THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ON THIS, ON THIS CURRENT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO WE'RE ALONG BROWN STREET AS FAR EAST AS WE CAN GET TOWARDS THE, THE CREEK WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN PREPARING THE LOT OR RAISING THE LOT. SO ABOUT WHERE THE EVERGREEN TREES START OUT THERE. THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME ABOUT ABOUT ISO COVERAGE OR ABOUT WOULD IT IMPROVE THE SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS? SO ON THE LEFT IS OUR CURRENT ISO COVERAGE. EVERYTHING IN THAT PINK COLOR. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT, THAT SMALLER. SO ISO LOOKS AT BUILT UPON AREAS. AND SO THE BLUE DOTS, IF YOU CAN SEE THEM ON YOUR SCREEN ARE FIRE HYDRANTS. AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF FIRE HYDRANTS IN THE BLUE AND NOT IN THE PINK. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE BLUE BOXES ON THE RIGHT, IF WE MOVE THAT FIRE STATION JUST A HALF A MILE EAST, WE DO PICK UP A LOT OF COVERAGE WITHOUT LOSING MUCH UP NORTH DUE TO SOME OF THAT BEING THE SAINT PAUL CITY LIMITS AND EXCUSE ME, AND SOME COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE BLEEDING OVER FOR FIRE STATION FOUR. AGAIN, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST TIME ABOUT IS THIS THE RIGHT USE OF THAT PROPERTY? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOWED UP. THERE WAS AN OPTION THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS SHOWN ON OUR KIND OF MASTER PLAN THAT WE TOOK AFTER 2019. AND IT SHOWS THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS ON THE FRONT SIDE DON'T KNOW THAT COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGEMENT WOULD EVER BE INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT IT DOES SHOW SOME, [02:55:04] SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THAT SPACE. SO WE'RE KIND OF BACK TO THE MENU OF OPTIONS. AND WE CAN, WE CAN MIX AND MATCH THESE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME SOME FEEDBACK IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ANY OF THESE PROJECTS FORWARD. THOSE ARE THE ONES I PRESENTED. WE'LL BE GLAD TO, TO LOOK AT ANY OF THE OTHER ONES OR IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT NEEDS AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, I'M SURE CHIEF HENDERSON COULD ANSWER THOSE AS WELL. SO I HAD ONE QUESTION TO START WITH. AND THAT IS JUST UNDERSTANDING YOU LIST OUT ON THE 37 MILLION OPTION. I THINK IT'S FOURTH ONE DOWN THERE. IT LISTS THE FIRE ADMINISTRATION SLASH EOC AND THE 911 COMMUNICATIONS AS SEPARATE, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF THOSE. WHEN I LOOK AT THE BOXES, THE PHASE NEW CONSTRUCTION TWO IS THE FIRE ADMIN IS THE AND EOC. IT'S ALL ATTACHED. IT'S THE 911 PART OF THAT STRUCTURE. IT WOULD BE THAT THAT RAISED STRUCTURE IN THE BACK. IT IT'S THE IT'S THE HIGHER RATE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST ARTISTS. THIS IS JUST AN ARCHITECT THROWING SOMETHING ON PAPER FOR US. BUT IT WOULD BE THE HARDENED FACILITY. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE SHOWED IT SEPARATELY IS BECAUSE THAT ENTIRE EOC AND THAT ONE COMMUNICATION CENTER WOULD BE A HARDENED FACILITY. SO IT'S CONNECTED TO BUILDING TWO ON THAT PARTICULAR DRAWING THERE. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST THE, THE, THE HEIGHT ESSENTIALLY THERE IN ONE BUILDING THERE. IN ONE BUILDING. YES, SIR. AND, AND WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SOME MONEY TO MAKE THEM TWO STORY IF THERE'S SOME IF WE'RE MAKING THE BOTTOM FLOOR HARDENED, DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY ALLOW US TO TO WOULD IT BE CHEAPER TO GO VERTICAL INSTEAD OF SPREAD OUT MORE? SO ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD, WOULD OBVIOUSLY, IF THIS WAS THE CHOICE OR ANY OF THE OTHER CHOICES THAT BUILT A FIRE ADMIN WE WOULD HAVE TO GET DOWN INTO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING PHASE. AND I GUESS THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE I KNOW NONE OF THESE INCLUDED. BUT JUST BACK IN MY MIND, I THINK WE HAVE TO ADD PARKING OVER THERE. I KNOW IT'S NOT ON HERE AT FIRE STATION TWO. NO, AT AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING JUST BECAUSE OF COURT DATES. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR CITIZENS. I THINK THAT WAS LISTED AT A MILLION. YES. I WAS GOING TO ASK AND IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER FOR HIM OR CHIEF. HENDERSON WANTS TO TAKE THE QUESTION. IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING THAT MOVED FIRE ADMIN, FOR INSTANCE, IN THAT SPACE BECAME AVAILABLE, MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING YOU WANTED, BUT IN ORDER TO KIND OF MAKE IT WORK. DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK IDEA OF WHAT THE ASK WOULD BE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE? I KNOW YOU CAN TECHNICALLY MAKE ANYTHING WORK, BUT GIVE ME AN ANSWER. YEAH. SO WE LOOKED AT THAT TODAY ACTUALLY AGAIN AND KIND OF REVIEWED ALL THAT WE'RE THINKING IN THE, IN THE AROUND $1.5 MILLION RANGE. WHEN YOU START MOVING SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, WALLS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. OBVIOUSLY, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO ADD AC, BUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MOVED. POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE TO READJUST AC VENTS AND DUCTWORK AND SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST ASKING IF WE HAD A ROUNDABOUT NUMBER. YES, SIR. OKAY, SO. AND IN REGARDS TO THE PARKING, JUST TO CLARIFY, TWO, TWO DIFFERENT TWO VERY DIFFERENT ON COURT DAYS, THE EXPANSION OF THAT PARKING LOT WAS OUT IN THE FRONT FOR THE PUBLIC PARKING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO IN THE BACK. I MEAN, IF WE MOVE OUT, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD HELP, BUT FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR DISPATCHERS AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, THE BACK SECURE PARKING AREA IS WHAT'S WHAT'S PACKED PD. PD REQUIRES A LOT OF THAT FOR THEIR NOT ONLY THEIR VEHICLES AND THEIR PATROL VEHICLES, BUT ALSO THEIR PERSONAL CARS DRIVING BACK AND FORTH. AND SO TWO, TWO VERY DIFFERENT PROBLEMS THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. ONE IS THE BACK PARKING IS CROWDED. THE COURT I THINK WE HAVE A SOLUTION FOR OUT FRONT. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU MAYOR. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WINCING AROUND IN MY HEAD OF HOW DO I FIT EVERYTHING ON THE PIE? SURE. AND WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT TO PARKS AND REC ABOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. AND HOW DO WE BALANCE EVERYTHING? THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. OUR CITY'S ALMOST BUILT OUT. WE HAVE VERY, VERY LITTLE LAND, COMMERCIAL WISE, THAT CAN HELP OUR CITIZENS BUILD ENOUGH COMMERCIAL VIABILITY THAT CAN LESSEN THE BURDEN OF SALE OF PROPERTY TAX ON THEIR HOUSES. SO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR PRO TEM SITTING IN HERE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST BALANCE AND WHAT IS THE BEST VALUE VERSUS WHAT [03:00:07] IS THE NEED TO GET IT DONE. I DO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM MY STANDPOINT IS WHEN I'M LOOKING AT BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S FEASIBLE, THAT'S USABLE, THAT IT CAN DO THE JOB THE LAND NEXT TO THE NEXT TO THIS. AND I GET IT. THERE'S OTHER COUNCILMAN COUNCIL THAT'S BEFORE ME AND THERE WILL BE OTHERS THAT WILL BE AFTER ME. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS PRIME REAL ESTATE, BROWN COUNTRY CLUB, IT'S PRIME REAL ESTATE. WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE GOT GOING ON IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, FOR THE CITIZENS OF WYLIE, THAT IS PRIME REAL ESTATE. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO FIGURING OUT A WAY TO GETTING THE EOC NEW FIRE STATION BUILDING TRAINING FACILITY SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE WE THINK IT'S FEASIBLE. THAT'S WHY I PROPOSED THAT AREA AND REARRANGING THAT AREA. MY MY THOUGHT IS THE FIRE, THE ADMIN BUILDING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FRONT FACING TO THE MAIN ROAD WHERE INSTEAD OF BEING $5 PER SQUARE PER SQUARE IS $30,030 A SQUARE FOOT. NOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES WITH IT BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING FACILITY. I DON'T WANT CITIZENS TO DRIVE THROUGH THE TRAINING FACILITY. AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE BOND ON SIMILAR BONDS TO THAT, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECTS AND WHERE I'D LIKE TO BE IS PERSONALLY SPEAKING, IS SOMEWHERE IN AROUND $30 MILLION RANGE. OKAY. IF I, IF I'M THINKING OF A BOND AROUND $100 MILLION OR SO AND DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOND COMMITTEE WILL COME OUT AND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE INPUT IS AND ALL THAT. BUT IN MY HEAD, I'M STARTING IT AT SOMEWHERE AROUND 100, $110 MILLION. AND SO HOW DO I FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT'S GOING TO SERVE OUR TEAM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB AND HOW I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT FROM TEN YEARS FROM NOW IS, CAN THIS PIECE OF LAND BRING ENOUGH TAXABLE VALUES THAT IT'S GOING TO ALLOW ME TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION ONE? ALLOW ME TO HAVE SOME OF THE RENOVATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE IN THE GENERAL BUDGET. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING IS I'M CONFLICTED INTO TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION. I DO LIKE THE OPTIONS. SO IT'S JUST ABOUT WHERE DO WE PUT THEM? SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. AND HOW DO YOU ARRANGE THAT? I UNDERSTAND WE'VE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING. I GET IT. IT'S JUST. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRING. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE BONDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ROLLING OFF. WHAT'S THE AMOUNT ON THAT AGAIN? ABOUT 85, 75, 8580. I THINK IT'S CLOSER TO 75. IS THAT RIGHT, BRANT. YOU KNOW THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS SAYING IS HE'S RIGHT. HOW DO WE BALANCE THINGS OUT. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A NICKEL'S WORTH. I BALANCED IT OUT IN MY MIND OF THE 39 MILLION. WHY? BECAUSE THAT FIRE STATION, CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE AND OTHER THINGS, IT HAS TO GO INTO IT. THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE HIGHER THAT'S GOING TO GO. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE FIGURES ARE PLANNING FOR THREE YEARS TO DO. CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT ACCURATE? IF THESE WERE APPROVED, WE WOULD WE COULD WE COULD IMMEDIATELY THE BOND THING. IF. YEAH. IF THE BOND WAS APPROVED, WE COULD START DESIGN. AND THEN FROM FROM CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH THE ARCHITECT BIDDING IN IN 28, 29, LATE 28, EARLY 29. AND ONCE IT GETS BID, WE LOCKED IN THE PRICE AT THAT POINT. OKAY. IF, IF THIS WAS ALL GREENLIT, WE HAD THE FUNDS. DO WE HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD ACTUALLY COST US TO DO IT TODAY? IF WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION TODAY, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T BE 39 MILLION. I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE HOW MUCH HIGHER IS THIS GOING TO GO THE LONGER WE WAIT? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO ARE SAYING CARRYING ABOUT 7%, 7 TO 8% AN ESCALATION WHICH PUTS THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE TIME FRAME. TIME FRAME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CURRENTLY IT'S AROUND 800 AN AVERAGE FOR, FOR CITY OR FOR THESE KIND OF FACILITIES. SO THAT PUTS IT AT 840. YOUR SOFT COSTS ARE AROUND 20% ON ABOVE THAT. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER WE'RE USING TONIGHT IS 1050 A SQUARE FOOT FOR ALL PROJECTS. NOW IF WE START THAT TODAY, WE'VE STILL GOT THE 800 PLUS THE 20% FOR THE I MEAN, SO YOU'RE TALKING A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT POTENTIALLY, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW. AND THEY, THEY EVEN TALKED TO THEM AS LATE AS YESTERDAY ON FRIDAY. AND THEY WERE RECOMMENDING MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL CONTINGENCY FOR UNCERTAINTY FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OUTSIDE OUR, OUR COUNTRY. SO, SO JUST CASE IN POINT. YESTERDAY I WENT TO FIRE UP MY SMOKER, BUT MY CHIMNEY STARTER WAS LIKE TOTALLY RUSTED OUT. AND I'M LIKE A, PROBABLY A BETTER IDEA. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IF THIS THING BREAKS AND CATCHES MY HOUSE ON FIRE. [03:05:04] SO I WENT OVER TO A LOCAL BASED IN WYLIE, BY THE WAY TO GET A NEW CHIMNEY STARTER. IT WAS 25 FREAKING BUCKS. SIMPLE CRAP, METAL CRAP, WOOD HANDLE OR PLASTIC, DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE YOU CHOOSE. IT'S RIDICULOUS. EVEN THE SIMPLE THINGS, YOU'RE GETTING DREADFULLY EXPENSIVE. AND SO IN MY MIND, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT TO LAST A VERY LONG TIME, I WOULD RATHER BITE THE BULLET AND PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT NOW, RATHER THAN HAVING TO PUT MUCH MORE MONEY INTO IT LATER ON DOWN THE LINE. BUT THAT'S JUST MY POSITION. SO I FIND MYSELF IN SUPPORT OF THE PHASED APPROACH. YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE ACCESS ROAD TO THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHERE THAT WOULD GO. BASED ON THE MAPS I'M LOOKING AT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS AND THINGS GOING ON IN HERE, WHICH WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN THERE IN THE THAT DRAWING YOU GOT RIGHT THERE. SO BETWEEN BUILDING TWO AND SEVEN WHERE THIS TREE LINE IS THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE HE PUTS IT. IT PUTS IT AT THE BACK OF THE PARKING LOT. THERE'S ALREADY BACK BY THE DUMPSTER BACK HERE. IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY. THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US TO DOUBLE AS AN ACCESS ROAD FOR THE FIRE STATION AND FIRE ADMIN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD GO. IT WOULD NOT BE THIS, THIS ONE OVER HERE. IT WOULD JUST BE THIS ROAD HERE. I WOULD ALWAYS BE A LITTLE MORE LEANING TOWARDS MAYBE SKIP THAT, BUT PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS THE WORK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, SINCE THAT'S NOT FACTORED INTO HERE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD KIND OF FIX BOTH YOU ALL UP PRETTY NICELY BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO DO WHAT WOULD BASICALLY BE THE POLICE STATION AT THAT POINT, AND WE'D BE ABLE TO GET ALL THE STUFF GOING, GET THE EOC MOVED. SO YEAH, AND ULTIMATELY I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER TO SEE IT GO TO THE BOND COMMITTEE AND SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH IT AND LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO SAY THIS. WE TALK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS AND THEY'RE HUGE NUMBERS AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE COST IS EXTREMELY HIGH. NOW WE'RE LUMPING EVERYTHING IN, RIGHT? WE'RE LUMPING IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THIS DISCUSSION. BUT THAT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED BY US WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE, ABOUT HOW HUGE THESE NUMBERS ARE. BUT IT'S OUR CURRENT REALITY. AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS TELL YOU THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING AND THEN COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS AND SAY, WELL, IT'S TIME FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE SMALLER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. OR WE'VE, WE'VE BACKED OURSELVES INTO A CORNER. SO I JUST WANT, I FELT LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE NUMBERS. WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY. THEY'RE THEY'RE HUGE NUMBERS. SO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE AMAZING AS FAR AS JUST GIVING US OPTIONS AND THINGS TO CHEW ON. I DON'T HAVE THE GOLDEN TICKET, BUT I'VE GOT THOUGHTS. SOME OF THOSE ARE, I THINK KEEPING FIRE STATION TWO WHERE IT IS AND BUILDING ON WOULD KIND OF BE THROWING GOOD MONEY TO BAD IN THE SENSE OF LONG TERM, LONG, LIKE THE LONGEVITY OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT BEING FUNCTIONAL 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FROM NOW. OR IT BEING SOMETHING THAT AS CITIZENS COME TO OUR CITY AND THEY GO TO FIRE ADMIN, IF WE END UP PUTTING ADMIN BACK THERE, IT FITS IN WITH THE REST OF OUR CITY BECAUSE IT KIND OF WOULDN'T IT. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK IN THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE A LONG, NARROW DODGE IN, IN AND OUT OF THAT PLACE. BUT THE THING THAT I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE IS THAT WITH US REDOING THE EOC CENTER AND 911 DISPATCH THE JAIL, ALL OF THAT, THAT WE JUST HAD A LARGE INVESTMENT IN THAT BUILDING AND WHAT'S THERE. AND SO WHAT I WONDER IS, IS THERE A WAY TO DO A PHASED APPROACH WHERE EOC AND NINE ONE, ONE STAY THERE BECAUSE POLICE USES THEM AS WELL. BUT FIRE STATION TWO MOVES TO A NEW BUILDING AND AT THE SAME TIME ADMIN GETS A NEW BUILDING SO THAT THE ONLY THING THAT STAYS IS, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSIVE ITEMS WHICH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PART OF THE EOC THAT'S HARDENED AND THE 911 CENTER, WHICH WILL HELP GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK WILL ALSO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO BUILDING FIVE AND SIX OR, YOU KNOW GET YOUR LOGISTICS IN AT THE SAME TIME, IT'LL, IT'LL FREE UP THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THAT FIRE STATION TWO IS AT TO WHERE THE CITY CAN LET GO OF THAT PROPERTY, RECOUP SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND GET OUT FROM THAT PROPERTY. THAT WAY IT DOESN'T GET TRAPPED INTO SOME OTHER CITY FACILITY THAT CAN'T OPERATE, THAT CAN'T FUNCTION WELL, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WOULD HELP FUND SOME OF THE BUILD AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION. I THINK A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT IS FIRST, PD WOULD NOT BE GAINING MUCH. I ANTICIPATE THEY WOULD KEEP THE EOC. OBVIOUSLY IF WE LEFT IT THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO KEEP IT. SURE. THEY'RE THEY'RE WANTING TO ELIMINATE SEVERAL OFFICES IN FA ADMIN AND MAKE IT PART OF THE [03:10:09] FORENSICS AREA. AND SO WITH THAT OPTION NOT HAVING DISPATCH IN THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY SHORT TERM SOLUTION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO. HOW MANY FEET WOULD THAT GAIN THEM. WELL IT WOULD JUST GAIN, IT WOULD GAIN THEM 4500FT². 4500. YEAH. SO AND, AND WITH A BIG CHUNK OF THAT BEING THE EOC. SO IT WOULD JUST GAIN THEM THE, THE FIRE ADMIN T RIGHT. IT WOULD JUST GAIN THEM, THE OFFICES ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT AND THEN THE THREE OFFICES ON THE END IS ALL IT WOULD GAIN THEM. AND THE NEW FIRE ADMIN IS THAT BUILDING WOULD ONLY NEED TO BE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT AT THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S FAR ADMIN AND EOC AND EOC. YES, SIR. FOOD FOR THOUGHT. YEP. FOOD FOR THOUGHT. I'LL. I'LL WADE IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU MAY WANT TO HEAR FROM ME. BECAUSE I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT MIGHT NOT BE YOUR FAVORITE CHOICE. BUT THE SECOND ONE ON THAT LIST THAT PUTS IN THE NEW FIRE STATION MOVES FIRE ADMIN OUT TO TWO PROVIDES MONEY TO UPDATE YOUR TRAINING FLEET AND LOGISTICS OVER THERE. AND I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF WE DID THAT, I MEAN, IT MENTIONS IN HERE THE WILY PD OFFICE SPACE NEEDS. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND THAT. BUT WHEN I WRAP THE. I'LL CALL IT $2.5 MILLION IN FOR THE PUBLIC PARKING AND FOR THE UPDATES FOR THE RENOVATIONS, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT MUCH IF THEY'RE ONLY RENOVATING THAT MUCH SPACE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE PROS, IT HELPS ADDRESS SOME OF THE PD SPACE. IT GETS THE FIRE STATION INTO ITS ITS, ITS PHYSICAL SPOT. AND I KNOW IT SEPARATES FIRE ADAMANT OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU LOOK AT THE LONG TERM AND MEDIUM TERM, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IN ABOUT 20 YEARS, IT'S NOT 20 YEARS FROM NOW. IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, BUT I THINK WE'RE ABOUT SIX YEARS INTO THE BONDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. AND IF THAT BOUGHT US ANOTHER 15 YEARS, THOSE BONDS HAVE ROLLED OFF. AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE WOULDN'T BE OPPORTUNITIES IN BETWEEN. YOU KNOW, I, I DO NOT PLAN TO BE SITTING HERE STILL. SO THAT WILL BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S DECISION. BUT AS SOME OF THOSE OTHER BONDS ROLL OFF, MAYBE THAT'S WHEN THAT NEXT BIG PHASE IN THE EOC AND EVERYTHING GETS MOVED AND REUNITED INTO MAYBE THAT NEXT PHASE IS THAT OBVIOUSLY IT WON'T BE 15 MILLION. BUT IN LOOKING AT THE MENU, THEN YOU GET YOUR FIRE ADMIN EOC AND 911 ALL MOVED INTO THAT ONE BUILDING AT ONCE. AND SO YOUR INTERIM SOLUTION IS TO GET THE FIRE STATION BUILT LONG TERM, WHERE YOU WHERE WE YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S DESIGNED, GET THE ADMIN OUT SO THAT PD HAS ENOUGH SPACE. GIVE THE FIRE ADMIN ITS NEEDS FROM SPACE TRAINING, FLEET, LOGISTICS, ALL OF THAT STILL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FUNCTION AT A HIGHER LEVEL. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT. BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING ABOUT 30 MILLION TO POTENTIALLY PITCH TO THE BOND COMMITTEE AND TO THE PUBLIC, IT HELPS ADDRESS BOTH YOUR NEEDS AND, AND PD'S NEEDS OVER THERE AT THE SAME TIME. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT I WOULD PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR OF. NOW I'M FINE WITH THEM HAVING MULTIPLE CHOICES. THAT'S WHY I LOOK OVER HERE, BECAUSE I THINK THESE TWO GENTLEMEN ARE ON THE BOND COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE, AND THEY'RE HERE LISTENING THIS EVENING. SO. NOW. AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, MR. PARKER. YES. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN IS YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULDN'T MIND. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO PRESENT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. SO I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF NEEDS. FROM COUNCIL IS YOU WANT THEM TO PRESENT ALL THESE OPTIONS TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE A CONSENSUS OF 2 OR 3. WHAT WHAT DESIRE IS IT FOR COUNCIL TO TO DO? I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS IS IF WE CAN HAVE 2 OR 3 THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE AND ALLOW THEM TO DO SOME REVIEW AND DISCUSSION AS WELL. I THINK IF YOU GIVE TOO MANY, YOU GET PARALYSIS BY ANALYSIS AT THAT POINT AND YOU GET TOO MANY PEOPLE SPLIT TOO MANY DIRECTIONS. [03:15:03] I'LL SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE 27 WITH THE COST, THE OPTION THAT'S HERE WITH THOSE COSTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, AND THEN TO COUNCILMAN STRINGS POINT DOWN THERE. IF I WAS GOING TO DO ANY OF THE OTHER ONES ON THERE. I MEAN, AT THAT POINT, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY I WOULD I WOULD JUMP TO THE 37. OKAY. BUT NOT WITH A ROAD. IT WOULD NEED IT WOULD I WOULD WANT THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY MONEY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. I APOLOGIZE. I KNOW IT'S ALL PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THE 27 PLUS THE 2.5 OR THE 37 PLUS THE 2.5. AND THAT GIVES A COUPLE OF LONGER TERM OPTIONS. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. SO. AND I'M OPEN TO HAVING UP TO THREE. BUT. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. SORRY. THANK YOU MAYOR. ONE THING I WAS NOTICING THE COURTYARD AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. YES, SIR. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT COULDN'T BE ENCLOSED OTHER THAN WHEN WE WHEN WE WERE REDOING THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING A FEW YEARS AGO? IT DID NOT COME BACK FEASIBLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY MORE. THAT'S A TILT WALL BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD MORE OF THE THE ABSOLUTES OR IT'S A TILT WALL BUILDING AND IT DID NOT COME BACK FAVORABLE PRICING WISE. THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG, I THINK FROM A SLAB PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. I THINK THERE WAS TOO MUCH THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT TOO MUCH MOVEMENT. WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE NEW, WITH THE NEW ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER FOR AND WITH THE ROOF AND OR WHATNOT. YEAH, THEY JUST WEREN'T COMFORTABLE FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, BEING WILLING TO. CHECK. THANKS. YEAH. WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. MAYOR. OKAY. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE IT. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW. HOW WOULD YOU MOVE TO THE 37 MILLION? YOU SAID I'D JUMP TO THE 37 MILLION. NO, I SAID THE TWO THAT I WOULD BE OPEN TO IF WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT MULTIPLE. MY PERSONAL CHOICE OR PERSONAL PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE 27 AND I'M CALLING IT PLUS 2.5. THAT'S YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, FRONT PARKING AND RENOVATION. MY SECOND WOULD BE THE 37 PLUS THE 2.5. IF I WAS GOING TO PUT A SECOND ONE FORWARD, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOND COMMITTEE MAY CUT A DIFFERENT PROGRAM. THAT WOULD BE THAT BECAUSE I WOULD JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE BIG INVESTMENTS INTO. AN ODDBALL NON LONG TERM. SO CHIEF, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IF WE MOVE EVERYTHING FROM FRY STATION TO PROPERTY, LIKE COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS SAID, TAKE EVERYTHING AND MOVE IT OVER HERE AND PUT THE TRAINING CENTER, THE FLEET FACILITY AND THE FIRE STATION TWO AND THE ADMIN BUILDING. SO ESSENTIALLY DO THIS, DO THAT. BUILDINGS ONE THROUGH SIX. YES. YES, SIR. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? THE THE BEST ESTIMATES WE HAVE IS ABOUT 60 MILLION BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. 60 MILLION. YES, SIR. BECAUSE IF YOU MOVE IN EOC, IF YOU MOVE IN 911 IF YOU'RE BUILDING FIRE STATION TWO IF YOU'RE RENOVATING THE CURRENT BUILDING TO MAKE IT FOR THE FLEET, YOU'RE ONLY SPENDING 37 MILLION. AND THAT CURRENT BUILDING IS BUILT BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT IS BUILT AS A HOUSE BASICALLY, WHICH IS $150 A SQUARE FOOT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE. I GUESS MY THOUGHT PROCESS WOULD I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 40 MILLION. IF WE RELEASE THAT PIECE OF LAND, THAT PIECE OF LAND CAN TURN INTO COMMERCIAL OR SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH IT WOULD COVER. I THINK WHERE MAYOR IS TRYING TO GO TO THAT 27, $30 MILLION RANGE, THAT WOULD COVER THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUILDING THAT. BUT IF IT'S 60 MILLION, THEN YEAH. NO. YEAH. AND THE LAST TIME WE HAD THAT APPRAISED, NOW IT'S BEEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD A POTENTIAL BUYER, BUT IT WAS IT WAS LESS THAN $4 MILLION, 3 TO $4 MILLION RANGE FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. YEAH, YEAH YEAH. NO. AND STILL IS. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY. BUT YEAH, 60 MILLION THAT THAT ONE. YEAH. AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT WE'RE INCLUDING ROADS, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TON OF PARKING OUT THERE FOR, FOR TRAINING. WE HAD SOME SHARED SPACE IN THERE FOR OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, OUR CITY FACILITIES. WE HAD SOME SHARED SPACE IN THERE TO TO GET THEM OUT OF THE CLOSET UP UPSTAIRS. THERE'S SOME SHARED SPACE IN THAT BUILDING. NUMBER SIX FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THAT, THAT INCLUDE THAT, THAT FACILITY INCLUDED A LOT MORE ENCOMPASS A LOT MORE THAN JUST THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, SO BUILDING BUILDINGS THREE, FIVE, AND SIX WERE ALL SHARED SPACE. [03:20:10] DO WE NEED TO THINK MAYBE BRING IN AN ANIMAL SHELTER THERE IN BUILDING SIX INSTEAD OF DOING DOING IT OVER THERE? NO, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT RIGHT NEXT TO AN ACTIVE FIRE STATION AND A BURN TRAINING CENTER. WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT THEN. THE OTHER THING TOO, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR PRO TEM, WE TALKED TO THE ARCHITECTS ABOUT ADDING ON TO THESE WOOD FRAME BUILDINGS. AND I WAS, I WAS PRETTY SHOCKED AT THE SQUARE FOOT PRICES THEY WERE GIVING US BECAUSE IT WAS UP AROUND $600 A FOOT. FOR, FOR THE COMMERCIAL FOR A, FOR COMMERCIAL APPLICATION FOR WOOD FRAME CONSTRUCTION. SO. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ARE YOU READY TO 1 OR 2. I'LL SAY 2 OR 3 OPTIONS THAT YOU'D BE OPEN TO. AND IF IT'S JUST ONE, IT CAN JUST BE ONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP A TALLY OVER HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. SO WHAT OUT OF THE OUT OF THE MENU THAT'S THERE. WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR FANCY, SIR? HE'S GOT IT UP THERE FOR YOU. CAN YOU GO TO THE OTHER SIDE? SURE. IF YOU I WILL GO AHEAD AND ASK COUNCILMAN DUKE HIS THOUGHTS. I PERSONALLY LIKE OPTION TWO THE BEST. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK THAT AND YOU KNOW, ADD THE 2.5 MILLION. BUT FOR THE GIVE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE, I'D SAY GIVE OPTION TWO AND OPTION FOR THE 27 AND THE 37 WITH THE WITH THE 2.5 MILLION FOR THE PSP. OKAY. FOR THE POLICE. COUNCILMAN PICKENS. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE GOT A AN ANSWER FOR YOU. JUST I'M STILL TRYING TO NOODLE THROUGH IT MYSELF. WHICH BRINGS UP A CONCERN I HAVE FOR THE BOND COMMITTEE IN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE SEEING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH COMPRESSING THE THREE BOND MEETINGS INTO TWO WEEKS AND NOT GIVING THEM ENOUGH TIME TO GEL OVER SOME PRETTY LARGE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROPOSING TO GO ON THE BALLOT. SO I'M SAYING ALL THAT JUST TO SAY THIS, THAT WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS MADE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE, NOT ONLY FOR THIS, BUT FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S PRESENTED THAT. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS TO MAKE A CHOICE AND NOT BEING STEERED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, THAT THEY DO HAVE OPTIONS AND THAT THEY CAN CHOOSE OR MAYBE MIX OR OFFER SUGGESTIONS ON THE FLY. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY JUST BECAUSE WE ARE CONDENSING SO MUCH INTO TWO WEEKS AND THREE MEETINGS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE DON'T GO TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING. I THINK THAT'S FAIR, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO NARROW THE MENU DOWN, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE FIVE OPTIONS PLUS ADD ONS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH EXPLAINING WHAT THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS ARE, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, HERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD DO. AND COMBINED WITH WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ACROSS THE BOARD. WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION GOING TO BE TO COUNCIL. CORRECT. AND I WOULD NOT WANT FIVE OPTIONS THAT DON'T DON'T GET ME WRONG ON THAT. SO I DO THINK THAT TWO OPTIONS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST PRESENTATION WITH MAYBE SOME MIX AND MATCH BETWEEN THE TWO AND AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE, WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT, THE MENU ON THE LEFT, AND WE'LL PROBABLY LIVE ON THE MENU RIGHT NOW. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WELL, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU WHICH ONES I'M LOOKING AT. THE 27 AND THE 37 MILLION ARE THE TWO THAT I WOULD LOOK AT. AND, AND, AND IF YOU COULD PRESENT TO THEM THE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE PROS AND CONS ARE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. AND WHAT, IF ANY, COULD BE MIXED AND MATCHED BETWEEN THEM. AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. SO THAT'S MY ANSWER. THANK YOU SIR. DID YOU HEAR. YEAH. JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING POINTS THERE. ONE, IT'S THE THEY'RE THE MEETINGS ARE IN THREE WEEKS. IT'S THE FIRST THE NEXT THREE MONDAYS OF THE FIRST THREE WEEKS OF JUNE, THE FIRST, EIGHTH AND 15TH. RIGHT. YEAH. SO OVER A THREE WEEK PERIOD, IT'S THE FIRST THREE MONDAYS OF. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, IS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T STEER THE BOND COMMITTEE IN ANY DIRECTION. [03:25:03] ALL WE DO IS PROVIDE THEM INFORMATION. WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL PROVIDE ANY FOLLOW UP INFORMATION OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. THEIR JOB IS TO FORMULATE WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH BRINGING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AS POTENTIAL BOND PROJECTS. AND NO WAY, AND I TRY TO REITERATE THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES DURING THE FIRST BOND MEETING IS THIS ISN'T STAFF'S BOND. THIS IS STRICTLY THE COUNCIL'S BOND. WE ARE HERE AS THE EXPERTS, IF YOU WILL, TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE BOND COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS THEIR CHARGE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU ALL HAVE THE FINAL DECISION ON ON WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE. WE CAN HAVE MORE THAN THREE MEETINGS IF NEEDED BASED ON THE BOND COMMITTEE'S DECISION. IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR ANY FOLLOW UP, BUT IT IS A LOT OF WORK. SO I, I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE. I HOPE YOU ALL SELECTED THE RIGHT PEOPLE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRANG, I KNOW YOU HAD ALREADY MENTIONED, I BELIEVE YOUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE THE 37. AND YOU'D MENTIONED THE RENOVATION STUFF. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND THAT YOU WOULD ADD TO THAT? ACTUALLY, THEY MATCH EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, THE 37 MILLION AND THE 2.5 FOR TASB. AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID THE 27 MILLION ALSO. YEAH, I HAD THEM IN REVERSE ORDER. BUT YOU DIDN'T MENTION A SECOND 272.5 FOR THE PSP. YEP, YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE IT HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN HERE. SO FOR CLARIFICATION, 20 THE 27 MILLION OPTION IS STILL PLUS THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY. SO FAR, THEY'RE BOTH PLUS THE PUBLIC SAFETY. I'LL CALL IT THE FRONT PUBLIC PARKING AND THE RENOVATIONS FOR HOWEVER MUCH GETS MOVED OUT BECAUSE THE 27 MILLION MAY NOT BE A MILLION AND A HALF BECAUSE HE DOESN'T GAIN ALL THE SPACE RIGHT NOW. I SAY HE THE DEPARTMENT. WHEREAS ON THE 37, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THAT FULL 1.5 BECAUSE I THINK IT MOVES ALL OF THAT OUT. SO IT MAY BE A LITTLE UNDER THAT, BUT IT'S INCLUDING THOSE TWO OPTIONS OR ADD ONS, I GUESS. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, ARE YOU READY? THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAPTAIN BLYTHE IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T ADD ON TO THE FRONT OF THE PSP BUILDING? WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE WE HAVE FOR PARKING STILL TO BE ADDED AND THE AMOUNT OF ROOM FROM THE PARKING TO THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW IS THERE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON OTHER THAN THE WAY THE THE NEW ADD ONS WERE DESIGNED, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE MAKE IT PRETTY DIFFICULT. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER TO BUILD A SEPARATE BUILDING OUT FRONT. BUT IT'S VERY MUCH GOING TO LIMIT OUR PARKING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AREA IS OUT THERE. SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE THAT'S AVAILABLE. BUT WE'RE ALREADY CONCRETED PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WITH THE DRIVES. AND SO IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE THAT AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOWS ON ANY OF THESE. WHEN I WAS LOOKING EVEN FROM THE PARKING TO THE BUILDING, LIKE EVEN THIS AREA HERE, I'M SORRY, I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS THAT REAL WELL. CORRECT. YEAH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA PLUS THE GRASS BEHIND IT. AND YOU LOOK AT WE'VE GOT TO ADD PARKING ANYWAY, RIGHT. WHAT COULD BE DONE? AND I'M THINKING FROM A. OKAY. WELL, IF IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE ADMIN NOW AND NOT MOVING THE ADMIN MEANS THAT PD CAN'T GET OFFICES THEY NEED. RIGHT. HOW DO WE GET MORE SPACE THERE? BECAUSE IT'S A BIG NUMBER DIFFERENCE. IF WE'RE JUMPING FROM 21 TO 20 7 TO 37. SURE. THEN IS THERE A IS THERE AN IN-BETWEEN THAT FITS THE NEEDS THERE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. IF THERE WAS A REASON WHY WE COULDN'T, I KNOW AN ARCHITECT CAN DESIGN IT WHERE IT CAN LOOK AND FLOW AND THE STUFF CAN GET REDONE INSIDE THERE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IF IF THERE WAS ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T THAT WE KNEW OF. I DON'T, I MEAN, AS FAR AS LIKE EASEMENTS OR, OR SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW IT, LIKE IN THE FRONT PART THERE, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE LEFT PART OF YOUR SCREEN BETWEEN THERE AND HIGHWAY 78, OR THE RIGHT PART UP TO THE EXISTING BUILDING IF THAT'S NOT DEVELOPABLE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING FOR THE BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY, I DON'T THINK I'VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING. IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE YOU SAID, DESIGNING IT SO THAT IT, THAT IT FLOWS AND IT'S GOING TO PUT COURTS IN THE BACK OF THE, OF THE FACILITY. AGAIN, WHICH WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY FIX THAT WITH SOME KIND OF CORRIDOR. BUT I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY DOABLE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING IN THAT SAME SQUARE FOOT PRICE RANGE FOR US OPERATIONALLY. I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF AT FIRE STATION TWO PROPERTY JUST FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE OUTSIDE OF DISPATCH AND EOC ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS WOULD BE OVER HERE. [03:30:06] SO WHAT I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT LAST TIME AS FAR AS RECEIVING THINGS, MEDICAL SUPPLIES IS THE HUGE ONE. SURE. ALL THOSE COME INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. WE HAVE TO LOAD THEM IN A TRUCK, TAKE THEM BACK OVER HERE, UNLOAD THEM, THEN REDISTRIBUTE THEM. AND SO FROM THAT ASPECT OPERATIONALLY FOR US, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON ADDING ON. PROBABLY FIRE STATION TWO WOULD BE BETTER. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT. SO WHAT IS THE PRIORITY IF THE EOC AND THE 911, YOU KNOW, DISPATCH STAY AT WITH PD. AS FAR AS THE ADMIN BEING WITH DISPATCH. YOU KNOW, I DON'T LOOK AT US BEING WITH THEM, Y'ALL. WELL, I MEAN, WE MANAGE THEM, THEY FALL UNDER US. SO, SO OBVIOUSLY IT'S EASIER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, ALL OF OUR FIRE STATIONS ARE REMOTE, SO. CORRECT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN COME OVER. I THINK OPERATIONALLY IN A DISASTER IS WHERE IT BECOMES THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. BECAUSE OUR EOC AND NUMBER ONE COMMUNICATIONS WORK HAND IN HAND. AND SO SEPARATING THOSE OR US HAVING TO, TO GO TO THE EOC BECAUSE WE MET, WE WERE OVER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND EOC AS WELL. I THINK THAT WOULD PRESENT THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR US. NOTHING WE CAN'T OVERCOME SOME OF WHAT I'M THINKING, AND THAT IS THAT I'M GUESSING OR ROUGH BALLING ABOUT 10 MILLION IN THE EOC HARDENED SIDE AND THE OTHER 911. I KNOW WE WERE AT 6.8, BUT I'M, I'M ADDING BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONE THAT WAS SEPARATED OUT. SURE. I SAW IT. RIGHT. AND SO I'M THINKING BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE HIGH DOLLAR ITEMS, HEY, IF WE CAN SAVE THOSE MONIES BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE FUNCTIONING AND YOU STILL GET WHAT YOU WANT AND, YOU KNOW CHIEF HENDERSON CAN GET WHAT HE WANTS, THEN WHAT'S THAT SOLUTION TO MAKE? YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ONE THING I WAS GOING TO ADD. MAYOR. I KNOW WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THE ACTUAL PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL. I'VE HEARD 30 MILLION A COUPLE OF TIMES WITH 27 MILLION. AND THEN YOU ADD THE 2.5 MILLION FOR PD IF WE WANTED TO GO BACK, IF Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR PRIORITIES AND THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK Y'ALL GOT, IF Y'ALL IF THE DIRECTION WAS AND BRENT'S OKAY WITH IT, THAT, HEY, FIX THOSE THINGS IN THAT PRIORITY LIST. DON'T, DON'T GO OVER 30 MILLION. THEN I CAN WORK WITH CHIEF HENDERSON AND WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH, WITH A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WHERE THE COUNCIL WAS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET OPTIONS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE. YEAH. BUT OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME TRUST THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CARRY OUT KIND OF WHAT Y'ALL SEE ARE OUR PRIORITIES. IF Y'ALL ARE FINE WITH THOSE BASED ON THE FEEDBACK. FOCUS ON LONG TERM INVESTMENT. IF WE CAN FOCUS ON OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS NEEDS. WE, WE CAN'T JUST ADDRESS OURS. WE COULD PROBABLY WORK TOGETHER AND MAYBE COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND GET IT TO BRANT AND GET IT TO THE, TO THE BOND COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, IF THAT'S MORE ACCEPTABLE. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. SO WHAT? I'LL CALL THAT OPTION THREE. BRANT. I DON'T THINK JUST IF Y'ALL IF THERE'S ANOTHER PACKAGE THAT Y'ALL PUT TOGETHER AND OBVIOUSLY IF THE BOND COMMITTEE DECIDES TO GO WITH THAT, BE PREPARED. THEY'LL PROBABLY BE QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL ON THE EVENING THAT, THAT WERE TO BE PRESENTED TO US JUST BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN IT, I GUESS WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT IN BETWEEN THAT KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD POSITION BECAUSE THEN IT KIND OF UNDERMINES THE BOND COMMITTEE. IF WE'RE DISCUSSING IT AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD SUBMIT IT. WE COULD SUBMIT IT TO MR. PARKER AND GET WE CAN'T PROVIDE FEEDBACK AS A GROUP OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL. NO, I'M JUST SAYING VIA EMAIL, WE COULD WE COULD GET YOU KIND OF THE. IT COULD BE SENT OUT. HE JUST CAN'T COMPILE. SURE. OUR FEEDBACK AND PROVIDE IT TO YOU OR IT ENDS UP BEING EVEN IN A WORK SESSION. IT'S A A WALKING QUORUM AT THAT POINT. SO BUT WE COULD REVIEW IT AND WE CAN STAY WITH THESE. 2737 WELL, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO YOU GUYS HAVING ONE. I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I JUST THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU SAID YOU MADE A DECISION. MAYOR, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH CHIEF ANDERSON AND CHIEF LODGE PUTTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR THEIR NEEDS. AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ALL NIGHT LONG TONIGHT, AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THAT $30 MILLION RANGE WOULD WORK BEST POSSIBLE WAY. OKAY. IT'S MY PREFERENCE. NOW, IF YOU MAKE ME CHOOSE TWO MORE. I'LL, I'LL CHOOSE THE 37 AND THE 27. OKAY. AND I'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN HOOVER. [03:35:03] I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE 27 TO 37. OKAY. OR PLUS THE TWO, TWO AND A HALF. OKAY. SO IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY. THE VAST MAJORITY ARE GOOD, WITH 27 AND 37 BEING WITH THE ADD ONS GOING TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. WE HAVE SEVERAL. I WOULD SAY I'LL JUST GO BACK DOWN. I DON'T REMEMBER THE ORDER. I CALLED ON PEOPLE. COUNCILMAN I'LL JUST START WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN PICKENS, SINCE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE A THIRD OPTION OF A NEW ONE? WE HAVEN'T IN THAT 30 MILLION RANGE. IF CHIEF HAS SOMETHING IN HIS MIND THAT HE WANTS TO OFFER. I'M OKAY WITH IT, SO IT'S FINE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO ASSUME. YEAH. COUNCILMAN. STRAIN. NO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN DUKE. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE OPTIONS DOWN TO TWO. FOR SURE. THE 27 MILLION AND, YOU KNOW POSSIBLY IN FAVOR OF A OF THE OTHER THIRD OPTION BEING IN PLACE OF THE 37 MILLION, BUT I'LL JUST WANT TO SEE TWO OPTIONS PRESENTED TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. OKAY. I'LL JUST GO BACK THROUGH EVERYBODY. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WANT ALL THREE? I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THREE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HOOVER. DO YOU WANT THE TWO OR DO YOU WANT TO ADD ON ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN? I'M OKAY WITH CHIEF HENDERSON AND CHIEF BLYTHE COMING UP WITH SOMETHING, BUT I WOULD PREFER ONLY TO GO TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. WHAT DOES HE SAY? SAME THING AS DUKE HE'S. OKAY. ONLY TWO TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. SO WHAT ABOUT COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? YES. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I'M OKAY WITH THREE GOING TO THE BOND COMMITTEE, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY LEAN ON THE 21 AND 1 IN 25, BUT BE OKAY WITH IF CHIEF HENDERSON AND CHIEF BLYTHE COULD PUT THEIR HEADS TOGETHER TO GET BOTH WHAT THEY NEEDED. A 30 BUDGET BEING WORKABLE. OKAY, SO I HAVE US ALL OVER THE BOARD. WELL, I GOT THREE WITH ONLY TWO OPTIONS. I GUESS I BETTER TURN ON MY MICROPHONE HERE. YEAH, I HAVE THREE WITH TWO OPTIONS BEING COUNCILMAN HOOVER COUNCILMAN STRAIN COUNCILMAN DUKE COUNCILMAN PICKENS PRO TEM AND YOU IT WAS AND COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AREN'T OPPOSED TO THREE OPTIONS. SO THAT'S FOR THREE. SO THREE OPTIONS. IT IS, IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME. WITH ONE OF THOSE BEING. SO IT'LL BE THREE OPTIONS BASED ON THE VOTES OR NOT VOTES. I WON'T USE THAT WORD BASED ON STATEMENTS GIVEN. IT WOULD BE THE 27 TO 37 AND THE ONE THAT YOU TWO CRAFT TOGETHER. CORRECT. AROUND 30. WHAT I HAVE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. YES. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AS WELL. I KNOW NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH THE NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FROM A MAJORITY STANDPOINT BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS OUT. OKAY. THAT'S OUR FEEDBACK FOR YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU'LL JUST GET THAT TO MR. PARKER, HE CAN RELAY THAT TO US SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW IT AND CONSIDER MAYBE A WORK SESSION FOR US TO DISCUSS THAT THIRD OPTION AND GIVE OUR FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE SOMETHING RIGHT OFF THE IF THINK ABOUT IT. IF NOT, IT'S THE OTHER TWO. I GOT YOU IN THERE. ALL OF A SUDDEN WE CAN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. SO. WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR WORK SESSIONS THIS EVENING. WE'LL RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION TO THEN MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY CLOSED MEETING YES. [RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION ] [EXECUTIVE SESSION ] ONE CONSIDERING THE SALE OR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT BALLARD BROWN, BROWN EUBANKS FM 544 COOPER FM 544 FM 1378. BROWN FM 1378 PARK, JACKSON REGENCY STEELE STATE HIGHWAY 78, ALLEN EAST STATE HIGHWAY 78, BROWN AND STATE HIGHWAY 78, SKYVIEW. SECTION 551.087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS CLOSED MEETING IS TO DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE WEDC HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT AND TO DISCUSS THE OFFER OF INCENTIVES FOR PROJECTS. 2022 DASH TEN C 2022 DASH TEN, D2024-2024-58, 2024-D2024-12, D2025-I THINK I SAID 2024-12C, I'LL MAKE SURE I DID 2025. NINE. EIGHT. [03:40:04] 2025. TEN F2026-3E AND 2026-4B AND ANY. I MAY HAVE MISSED IN THE READING THAT I'LL RECONVENE AS FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION INTO OPEN SESSION. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY ACTIONS TO TAKE THIS EVENING. [RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION ] AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE READING OF THE ORDINANCES. [READING OF ORDINANCES ] MR. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-23, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AMENDING COMPREHENSIVE SORRY, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-32, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026, REPEALING ALL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR FULL AGENDA THIS EVENING AND BE OPEN TO A MOTION TO ADJOURN. COUNCILMAN. STRAIN MAYOR. MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.