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[Animal Shelter Advisory Board on May 13, 2026.]

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CALL TO ORDER THE MAY 13TH, 2026 ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6:08 P.M. WITH FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. AT THIS TIME, PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION LED BY MICHAEL, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TOGETHER TONIGHT, AND PLEASE BE WITH US AS WE CONTINUE TO WALK THROUGH THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT. BE WITH US AND HELP US ALWAYS REMEMBER YOUR WILL AND YOUR DESIRE, AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR, OUR THOUGHTS AND AND DISCUSSION AND DECISIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT WHAT YOUR WILL IS AND WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS AS WE WALK THROUGH THE WORLD. TO SHOW THE LIGHT TO THE WORLD AND THE LIGHT TO YOU, JESUS CHRIST. LORD'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS CITIZENS PARTICIPATION. IF ANY CITIZEN OF WILI WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANY SUBJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. AND PLEASE BE AWARE THAT ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ISSUES NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA SO WE CAN DIRECT OUR STAFF TO ASSIST ANYONE HAVING QUESTIONS OR ISSUES REGARDING CITY BUSINESS. AND PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT DOCTOR IS HERE. SO WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM OF SIX. AND ALSO PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. WE'LL NOW MOVE INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 11TH, 2026.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. I SECOND. SUSAN MADE A MOTION AND SECONDED. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND PLACE ON FILE THE 2026 FIRST QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. JUST TO HELP CLARIFY, I HAVE IN HERE THE THIS YEAR'S FIRST QUARTER AND LAST YEAR'S FIRST QUARTER, AS AMBER HAD REQUESTED. SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN REVIEW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. THE ONLY THING I COULDN'T GET WAS THE MAP FOR THE TNR CATS. THANK YOU.

SO IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, WE HAD ALMOST 100 MORE IMPOUNDS THIS QUARTER. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE HAD ALMOST 100 MORE IMPOUNDS, BUT A 4% BETTER LOWER

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EUTHANASIA RATE. YES, OUR EUTHANASIA RATE WENT DOWN FROM THE YEAR OVER YEAR BEFORE. I ALSO JUST FOR ANOTHER CLARIFICATION, I ADDED IN RELEASE, WHICH IS TO HELP US SEE THE TNR CATS BECAUSE TNR CATS ARE RELEASE. SO ON YOUR 2026 REPORT, YOU'LL SEE AS A DISPOSITION RELEASED JUST SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE ONES THAT WERE ACTUALLY TNR. AND THEN THAT WAY, ON THE SECOND REPORT FOR THE TNR, YOU CAN TELL THAT 24 WERE RELEASED AND IT MATCHES WHAT'S IN THE REPORT. FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DISPOSITIONS.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE STATISTICS? I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER CAT? THE OTHERS NOT THE DOGS AND CATS, BUT THE OTHERS BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS REALLY HIGH THAN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO INTEREST TO SEE FOR THE IMPOUNDS AND SURRENDERS AND STRAYS AND STUFF.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ON THE TOTAL STATISTIC REPORT OR.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER FOR DISPOSITION OR OTHER AS IN THE INTAKE TYPE, THE OTHER AND THE INTAKE TYPE. THERE. SO THAT'S ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A DOG OR CAT. AND THEN WHEN WE DO RESCUES AND STUFF, THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE LITTLE BABY RACCOONS OR POSSUMS AND STUFF, WE TAKE THEM TO REHABBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE WE PICK UP A LOT OF DECEASED ANIMALS AS WELL FOR WILDLIFE. SO THAT'S WHERE KIND OF OTHER DISPOSITIONS GO FOR THE FOR THE OTHER ANIMALS. YOU DID A LARGE INTAKE OF BIRDS. IS THAT WHAT IS A BIG PART OF THAT NUMBER FROM JANUARY TO MARCH? YEAH, WE DID A SEIZURE AND THERE WAS THERE WAS BIRDS AS WELL. AND THEN THAT WE WE IMPOUNDED, I THINK, CLOSE TO 30 BIRDS. AND HALF OF THOSE BIRDS ENDED UP GOING TO A RESCUE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST I APPRECIATE HAVING THE, THE YEAR OVER YEAR TO SEE IT SO THAT WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE OR DECREASE OR WHATEVER, SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING A WHOLE LOT MORE YEAR OVER YEAR. SO.

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THE EUTHANASIA RATE HAS GONE DOWN CONSIDERABLY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. AND FOR CATS, IT HAS VERY DRASTICALLY GONE DOWN. DO YOU THINK THAT IS A DIRECT CORRELATION WITH THE TNR PROGRAM? I DO, I THINK IT'S HELPED US BE ABLE TO GIVE ANOTHER OPTION FOR DISPOSITION OTHER THAN EUTHANIZING. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S HELPED A LOT. EXCELLENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS, EMOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO PLACE ON FILE THE 2026 FIRST QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION. A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM SUSAN AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM MICHAEL. PLEASE VOTE. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT IT PASSED 6 TO 0. AND THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE 2026 UPDATES TO THE ASB BYLAWS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE. AND THEN JUST TO HELP, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE, THE FIRST COPY IS GOING TO BE THE CLEAN COPY, AND THEN THE SECOND COPY WILL BE STRIKETHROUGH. SO YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE SECOND COPY IS THE AMENDED CORRECT SECTION ONE. THE THE DATES OF EXPIRATION. ARE THOSE RIGHT. SHOULD THOSE BE UPDATED. YES. SO YEAH. SO THE DATES ON HERE ARE JUST THE ORIGINAL DATES THAT WERE IN THE BYLAW FROM THE BEGINNING. SO THAT'S JUST TO TO START OFF THE DATE. SO WE KNOW WHERE TO START FROM. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS I'M CONFUSED IF IT SAYS IT EXPIRES ON 624, THEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T EXPIRE. THAT'S JUST ACTUALLY WHEN THE TERM STARTS. BUT THAT'S WHEN IT ORIGINALLY EXPIRED. AND THEN THEY STARTED A NEW TERM. BUT IT WAS JUST TO START THE THE PROCESS OF GETTING EVERYBODY LINED UP.

RIGHT. THAT WAY IT WAS IN A ROTATION. OKAY. THANKS. AND EVERY POSITION IS A TWO YEAR TERM BEFORE BEING APPOINTED AGAIN. SO 624 WILL EXPIRE. 626 OKAY, THAT'S CORRECT. JUST TO ADD SOME FURTHER CLARIFICATION, IT WAS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS ROTATING OFF AT THE SAME TIME, SO WE MADE SURE TO STAGGER IT MOVING FORWARD.

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DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE THE BYLAWS AND RULES AS SUBMITTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S VOTE. PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS. OKAY. AND FOR THE MOU, YOU'LL SEE ON HERE THERE'S ALSO A EXHIBIT. AND THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF BREAK DOWN MORE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY SIDE OF, OF WHAT WE EXPECT THEM TO DO AND KIND OF WHAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO FOR THEM AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO, I HAD ATTACHED TO YOU JUST LIKE A CODE OF ETHICS ON THERE FOR FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, JUST SO YOU GUYS WOULD HAVE IT. AND THEN I BELIEVE MICHAEL HAD ASKED ME TO MAKE CONTACT WITH OPERATION KINDNESS, AND I DID. THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE AS FAR AS VOLUNTEERS, THAT WE UTILIZE FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, AS I SAID, THEY WERE A GOOD RESOURCE FOR ANIMAL SHELTERS. AND THEN I WAS ABLE TO SET SET OPERATION KINDNESS UP AS A VENDOR FOR US SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THEM FOR FUTURE, LIKE STERILIZATIONS AND TNR, STUFF LIKE THAT. AWESOME. THAT'S GREAT.

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I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE IS THERE GOING TO BE A PROCEDURE IN PLACE OR WHATEVER TO KIND OF NAVIGATE OR TRANSFER ANY OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WE'VE CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE SHELTER, THEN TO, TO GET THEM UNDER THE FRIENDS ANIMAL RESCUE SO THEY CAN KIND OF TAKE OVER THAT MANAGEMENT. I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEIR, LIKE THEIR COORDINATOR ON MAY 19TH.

FROM WHAT I'VE SO FAR, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THEM IS IT'S BASICALLY THEY CAN WE CAN TELL THEM WHICH VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR SHELTER. AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF PUT THEM.

THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME TRAINING AS EVERYBODY ELSE THROUGH THE FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS, BUT THAT WE CAN TELL THEM, HEY, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING HERE, AND THEY'LL KIND OF PUSH THEM THROUGH, BUT I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON THE 19TH ON HOW THAT WILL WORK, BECAUSE WE HAVE, I KNOW AT LEAST TWO VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE BEEN COMING IN EVERY WEEK. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY CAN KEEP KEEP THOSE GUYS ON AND KIND OF SEE THE PROCESS FOR THEM. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THAT WE TREAT THOSE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN LONG TERM AND STEADY VOLUNTEERS AND MAKE THAT KIND OF HANDOFF AS EASY AS WE CAN FOR THEM. SO.

UNDER RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE FRIENDS OF RESCUED ANIMALS, BE IT SAYS SERVICES SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, RECRUITMENT, TRAINING, SCHEDULING AND RECORD KEEPING. SO RECORD KEEPING, BECAUSE WE'RE A STATE FACILITY, IS THAT THE RECORDS OR JUST SIMPLY THE RECORDS FOR VOLUNTEERS? SO THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT COME TO THE SHELTER. AND THEN WE'LL KEEP TRACK OF THAT AS WELL. SO IT'LL KIND OF BE BOTH OF US DOING IT, BECAUSE I HAVE TO TURN IN A LIST OF VOLUNTEERS AND THE AMOUNT OF HOURS EVERY YEAR. SO. BUT IT'S STRICTLY TOWARDS THE ACTIVITIES THAT A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, IT'S NOT YOUR OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF LIKE THAT. CORRECT. YEAH.

JUST JUST THE VOLUNTEERS.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO IF I'M READING IT RIGHT THEN THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM ANY FOR ANYTHING. THEY'RE DOING THIS FREE OF CHARGE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES. AND WE'VE EVEN WE'VE HAD TWO DOGS OR IT'LL BE THREE NOW THAT THEY'VE DONE HEARTWORM TREATMENT FOR AND THEY PAID FOR THAT COMPLETELY. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING OUT OF POCKET. IT WAS DONE THROUGH THE GARLAND ANIMAL SHELTER. SO.

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JUST A POINT OF QUESTION. DO WE HAVE HOW THE FRIENDS, THE FRA FUND RAISE? ARE WE CLEAR ON THEIR FUNDRAISING TECHNIQUES AND FUNDRAISING PROCEDURES? YEAH, I'VE GONE OVER IT WITH THEM. A LOT OF IT IS SOCIAL MEDIA BASED, AND THEN THEY UTILIZE SOME OF OUR PICTURES FROM OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TO PROMOTE CERTAIN ANIMALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'LL BE JUST A VOLUNTEER GROUP. SO IT'S THEM TRYING TO DO MORE PROMOTION TO GET PEOPLE MORE INVOLVED IN THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. THEIR, THEIR RESCUE SIDE IS, IS A SEPARATE KIND OF ENTITY. IT'S STILL THE SAME BECAUSE THERE'S STILL RESCUE FRIENDS RESCUE, BUT MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE UTILIZING THEM FOR IS JUST THE VOLUNTEER PART.

DO WE KNOW IF FRA IS A REGISTERED NONPROFIT? THEY ARE, YES, THEY ARE A NONPROFIT 501 C THREE. OKAY.

I GUESS TO ELABORATE ON THAT, DO WE HAVE TO. GO THROUGH THEIR PAPERWORK YEARLY AND STUFF LIKE THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MANNED? WOULD THAT BE YOU? WOULD THE BOARD NEED TO HANDLE THAT JUST TO ENSURE EVERYTHING. SORRY, IS BEING HANDLED AND DONE? ACCORDING TO THE 501 C THREE GUIDELINES. SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY LIKE ON OUR SIDE, WE WOULD DO LIKE THE MAKING SURE THE VOLUNTEER SIDE WAS GOOD, LIKE MAKING SURE THEY HAD THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOLUNTEERS THAT, THAT WE SHOW THAT CAME IN AND WORKED AND THE HOURS THAT THEY WORKED BECAUSE WE KEEP TRACK OF THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE FIVE ON C THREE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT. THAT'D BE MORE IRS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE TO TRACK THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO UNLESS WE SAW SOME SORT OF VIOLATION, THEN WE COULD REPORT IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT. I THINK YOU CAN, I MEAN, YOU CAN SEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE THE IRS KEEPS A PUBLIC LIST OF THOSE THAT HAVE HAD THEIR DESIGNATION REVOKED, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CITY WOULD DO THAT BEFORE SIGNING THAT, OR MAYBE AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT IT'S REGISTERED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S JUST A STANDARD THING FOR THE CITY TO DO WITH ANY CONTRACT. BUT AND THEN I'M ASSUMING HERE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. SO THEY WOULD SINCE THEY WOULD BE MANAGING COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS. SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT DATA OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR NAMES, ADDRESS PHONE NUMBERS. SO THEY WOULD BE SOLICITING THE VOLUNTEERS THEN FOR, FOR DONATIONS. YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD BASICALLY BE USING THEIR VOLUNTEERS.

SO I GUESS THE NEXT THAT WOULD BE THEN DO WE EVER DO ANY KIND OF FUNDRAISING OR ASKING, REACHING OUT TO, FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR FUNDS ON BEHALF OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN ANOTHER CAPACITY OR. WE NEVER HAVE AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE

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OF BEING A GOVERNMENT ENTITY. WE'VE, WE TRIED AT ONE POINT TO SET UP LIKE A, AN ADVOCACY GROUP THAT WAS A PART LIKE SEPARATE BUT A PART OF THE SHELTER. BUT IT JUST NEVER KIND OF MATERIALIZED. SO WE HAVEN'T EVER DONE ANY SORT OF FUNDRAISING FOR THE SHELTER. WE ACCEPT STUFF. SO LIKE IF PEOPLE DONATE OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT WE'VE NEVER, AS THE SHELTER ITSELF TRY TO GO OUT AND, AND PROMOTE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE. SO I MEAN, YES, I'M ASSUMING WE'D HAVE TO. IT WOULD BE LIKE A FRIENDS OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU KNOW, FOUNDATION OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD DO. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE THE ONLY THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, THEN IT WOULD WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT, CONSIDER OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE I WOULD I GUARANTEE THE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING AT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER, IF THEY. IF THE FRIENDS OF THE FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS REACH OUT AND ASK THEM FOR DONATION, THEY'RE GOING TO JUST ASSUME IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO IN THEIR EYES, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE IT'S HELPING SUPPORT THE ANIMAL, THE WILY ANIMAL SHELTER, JUST BECAUSE IT'S THEIR INTERACTIONS IS WORKING AT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER AND DOING THAT. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IF, IF IN THE FUTURE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE WANT TO, TO DO THAT AND START SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO SOME POINT, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD, HOW THAT WOULD WORK AND WHAT WE WOULD DO. I KNOW THIS RELATIONSHIP IS RELATIVELY NEW, BUT AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE TRACKING IT, BUT MAYBE JUST SEEING HOW LIKE YOU WERE JUST SAYING LIKE THREE DOGS JUST GOT HEARTWORM TREATMENT THROUGH THEM, BUT JUST MAYBE PROVIDING SOME OF THAT INFORMATION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO US ABOUT WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN OUR CARE. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY GET TRACK ALL THAT. AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE, AT SOME POINT WE CAN MAKE LIKE A REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR US. AND THIS IS THE BENEFIT OF UTILIZING THEM BASICALLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO FOR YOU ALL TO DO IT TOO ON YOUR END. SO I THINK EVEN HAVING TRACKING AND HAVING REGULAR REPORTS SIMILAR TO THE, THE OTHER REPORTS THAT JUST SHOW THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS, THE VOLUNTEER HOURS AND NUMBERS, AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME IT'S GOING TO BE A DRASTIC INCREASE FROM WHAT WE'VE WE HAVE CURRENTLY THAT I THINK THAT WOULD JUST SHOW THE BENEFIT OF IT TOO. SO.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH FRIENDS OF RESCUED ANIMALS. I SECOND ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. PLEASE ALLOW THE RECORD TO SHOW THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0 AND WITH NO FURTHER ITEMS ON THE REGULAR SESSION, WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO THE WORK SESSION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE WORK SESSION TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS TO DISCUSS AN SOP FOR THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COLLEGE. SO I KNOW THIS WAS A CONCERN DURING THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD LIKE AN SOP. SO I KIND OF DID MY SOP AND THEN THEY SENT ME THEIRS, WHICH IS THAT SECOND PAGE WITH A LIST OF THEIR PROCEDURES AND THE AMOUNT OF LIKE THE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF LIKE PROCEDURES THEY CAN DO PER ANIMAL. AND IT ALSO LISTS, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG THE ANIMAL HAS TO WAIT BEFORE IT CAN BE DONE AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHAT THE LAST NUMBER IS ON THERE. IT LISTS HOW LONG IT HAS TO BE FOR THE DOG TO DO IT AGAIN. AND I DID GET THIS ONE'S JUST FOR DOGS. I DID GET ONE FOR CATS AS WELL. I JUST IT WAS GETTING A LOT OF PAPER. SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT JUST, JUST THE DOG, JUST SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE HOW THEY'RE, HOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR PROCEDURES THAT WAY YOU GUYS HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THEY DO IT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT I KIND OF MADE UP FOR THAT AS WELL.

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AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, ANY IDEAS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE THAT I MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD TOUCHED ON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE I NEED TO EXPAND ON WOULD BE HELPFUL. IT WAS ALMOST, I HAD IT KIND OF BORDERLINE AS A CONSENT ITEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF DISCUSS WITH EVERYBODY AND KIND OF SEE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS STANDING ON THE SOP. AND IF I NEEDED LIKE, IF, IF MAYBE I WAS MISSING SOMETHING OR MAYBE NEEDED TO ADD SOMETHING.

CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN, I CAN'T REMEMBER. SO WOULD THEY BE COMING TO THE SHELTER AND DOING THE, THE PROCEDURES AT THE SHELTER WOULD TAKE THEM TO THEIR FACILITY. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH WAY IT WAS. SO I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THEY'LL BE COMING TO US UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING MORE LIKE WHERE THEY HAVE TO SEDATE THE ANIMAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEN IT MIGHT BE AT ANOTHER FACILITY. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THEY CAN DO AT THEIR FACILITY RIGHT NOW AT THE COLLEGE. I KNOW THEY UTILIZE OTHER VETS AS PLACES WHERE THEY DO PROCEDURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO TRANSPORT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S GOING TO BE AT OUR SHELTER. SO WE'LL BE ON, WE'LL BE THERE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF MONITOR AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PROCEDURES ARE BEING FOLLOWED. SO IF WE WERE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO THE CITY WOULD BE THE TRANSPORTING THE ANIMALS THEN. OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE JUST SINCE IT WOULD BE USING CITY RESOURCES AND TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WOULD A SHELTER STAFF MEMBER STAY ON SITE DURING THESE PROCEDURES, OR WOULD IT BE WE TRANSPORT THEM, DROP THEM OFF? OR THIS? I MEAN, IF THE STUDENTS COME INTO THE SHELTER, I KNOW YOU GUYS WOULD BE THERE, BUT IF THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED SOMEWHERE ELSE. SO IT WOULD I THINK IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON PROCEDURE. IF IT WAS JUST A MINOR THING THAT THEY WERE JUST GOING TO DO A COUPLE LITTLE LIKE I THINK THEY DO LIKE THEY DO LIKE THE TEETH AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IF IT'S JUST SOMETHING SIMPLE, I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY GOING TO STAY THERE AND BUT IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE, THEN MAYBE WE LEAVE THE ANIMAL THERE AND THEY THEN COME BACK ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM THREE SKILL LIMITS ENFORCEMENT. THE WAY I READ THIS, IT SAYS THAT THE NUMBER OF TIMES A SPECIFIC SKILL MAY BE PERFORMED IS LIMITED. AND ONCE THE LIMIT IS REACHED, NO ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES CAN BE PERFORMED OF THAT TYPE. HOWEVER, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE. IT SAYS THAT THERE'S A MAX NUMBER OF ANY SKILLS PERFORMED ON AN ANIMAL. PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE. OR MAYBE A DIRECT REFERENCE TO CALLING COLLEGES. I THINK IN IN NUMBER THREE, I DID THE MAY NOT EXCEED LIMITS ESTABLISHED BY COLLIN COLLEGE AND APPROVED BY US IN THAT FIRST PART. BUT YEAH, I CAN, I CAN ADD SOMETHING DIFFERENT, LIKE A LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN ONLY DO A, WHATEVER THE MAX AMOUNT IS, YOU CAN'T GO PAST THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT JUST TO CLARIFY IT. YEAH, YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PLACED IN THERE. SO IT'S, SO IT'S VERY CLEAR WE DON'T WANT AN ANIMAL SUBJECTED TO EVERY SKILL LISTED ON THEIR LIST. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THAT IT WASN'T DOING UNDUE STRESS OR, OR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR ANIMALS AND THINGS. SO AND FOR THE RECORD, I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD. SO, BUT I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO PUT THE WORDING IN THERE JUST TO JUST TO MAKE IT UNDERSTOOD. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO, THE WAY THE SKILL IS PERFORMED OR WHAT WHAT SKILLS MAY BE THE WASHOUT PERIOD, WHERE IN THEIR APPENDIX OF PROCEDURES FOR CANINE. SO THEY'RE SAYING THE WASHOUT PERIOD IS ONE DAY, LIKE IF WE TAKE THE FIRST SKILL, WHICH IS DEMONSTRATE EFFECTIVENESS, INAPPROPRIATE HUMANE RESTRAINT TECHNIQUE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THEN THEY SAY THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT, THE MANUAL RESTRAINT WILL BE THAT THAT'S THE RESTRAINT METHOD. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN THE CLASS DOING THIS PARTICULAR THING IS 2 TO 4 OF THEM. THE TIME THAT THE SKILL, MAXIMUM

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NUMBER OF THE TIMES THAT THE SKILL CAN BE REPEATED IS TEN TIMES ON THAT ANIMAL. AND THAT ANIMAL HAS TO BE RESTED FOR A DAY. SO I THINK BEFORE COMING BACK OR BEING USED AGAIN FOR THIS PARTICULAR SKILL. YEAH, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, THAT THE WHAT I WAS POINTING OUT IS THAT ALL THESE LIST OF SKILLS THAT THEY DON'T DO EVERY SKILL ON A SINGLE ANIMAL, THAT THERE'S A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SKILLS THAT MAY BE APPLIED TO AN ANIMAL. AND THEN LET'S LEAVE THAT ANIMAL ALONE. WE'RE DONE. RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO. YEAH.

DOES ANYONE. OH, SORRY. NO, SORRY. SO I UNDERSTAND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND MAXIMUM NUMBER OF TIME SKILL. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT THE MAXIMUM TIME SKILL REPEATED PER STUDENT. SO IF IT'S UP TO FOUR STUDENTS AND IT SAYS TEN TIMES, THE SKILL CAN BE REPEATED, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TEN TIMES PER STUDENT.

OKAY, I CAN, I CAN ASK AND CLARIFY THAT. BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, IT WAS JUST THAT THE SKILL IS MAX AT TEN. SO I THINK AFTER TEN, YOU CAN'T DO THAT SKILL ON THAT ANIMAL ANYMORE, BUT I'LL GET CLARIFICATION ON IT. AND I UNDERSTOOD IT THE SAME AS YOU.

BUT I THINK JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS, LET'S HAVE THAT IN WRITING.

IT APPEARS TO BE AN EXTENSIVE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE. AND I THINK IT AGAIN, I SAID THE SAME THING LAST TIME. AND I THINK ONCE WE HAVE EVERYTHING AND ALL THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS, AND I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY GOOD PROGRAM AND A GOOD PARTNERSHIP. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ADDITIONS? NO. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA IS TO DISCUSS A PARTNERSHIP WITH ADOPT MY HEART. THEY PROVIDE ADOPTERS WITH HEARTWORM TREATMENT. ALL RIGHT.

SO ALLISON IS HERE TO KIND OF SHE'S HERE TO PRESENT THE HER ADOPT MY HEART PROGRAM. SHE'LL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT A LOT BETTER THAN I CAN. SO SHE WANTS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM. ALL

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RIGHT. THANKS FOR HAVING US. I'M REALLY PLEASED FOR THE ANIMALS THAT WILEY SHELTER. I'M HAPPY FOR THEM. THEY HAVE ALL OF YOU LOOKING OUT FOR THEM IN ADDITION TO THE STUFF. SO I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO JUST ASK, IS EVERYBODY HERE FAMILIAR WITH HEARTWORM? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE. I THINK SO, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO TREAT.

SO ADOPT MY HEART. WE THIS IS EMILY. DID I SAY THAT? THIS IS EMILY JACKSON. EMILY AND I PRETTY MUCH MANAGE ALL OF THE OPERATIONS FOR ADOPT MY HEART. WE'RE A VERY SMALL ORGANIZATION.

WE ARE A 501 C THREE NONPROFIT. WE RUN 100% ON DONATIONS. WE DON'T GET PAID. NOBODY'S GETTING PAID. WE'VE BEEN AROUND NOW FOR TEN YEARS, VERY EXCITED. WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR TEN YEARS.

AND WE WORK CURRENTLY EXCLUSIVELY WITH COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER. WHAT WE DO WITH COLLIN COUNTY IS SPONSOR THE HEARTWORM TREATMENT FOR DOGS THAT TEST POSITIVE. THERE. WE.

WE TREAT THEM AFTER THEY ARE ADOPTED. SO THEY'RE IN A HOME. THEY HAVE THEIR FAMILY. AND THAT'S WHEN THE TREATMENT STARTS. AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT SO SINCE WE STARTED IN 2016, I JUST YOU GUYS HAVE THIS. I BELIEVE WHAT I'M. YEAH, OKAY.

THIS IS WHAT I'M STARTING AT THIS ABOUT ADOPT MY HEART. SO SINCE WE STARTED, WE HAVE, WE'VE SPONSORED EVERY HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOG THAT'S COME THROUGH COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES FOR TEN YEARS. THAT IS ABOUT 650 DOGS. SO. WE'VE RAISED WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO HALF $1 MILLION IN VET BILLS THAT WE HAVE SPONSORED. AND IN ADDITION TO HEARTWORMS WITH COLLIN COUNTY, WE ALSO WILL SPONSOR SPECIAL MEDICAL, SPECIAL MEDICAL CASES. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT AT THIS POINT WITH YOU GUYS, BUT SOME OF THAT MONEY WENT TO CASES LIKE THAT.

A DOG MIGHT NEED SURGERY, SOMEBODY ADOPTS A DOG AND IT BREAKS WITH PARVO IMMEDIATELY, AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK. AND SO WE HELP WITH CASES LIKE THAT CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HEARTWORM TREATMENT. SO THE WAY THAT THE HEARTWORM SPONSORSHIP WORKS. LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IS DONE AFTER ADOPTION. WE PARTNER WITH CURRENTLY THREE VETS. THEY PROVIDE US A DISCOUNT WITHOUT A WITHOUT A DISCOUNT. HEARTWORM TREATMENT IS LIKE $1,500 OR MORE. AND THAT'S PROBABLY AN AVERAGE. IT'S MANY TIMES MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. SO BUT WE DO GET WE ONLY PARTNER WITH VETS THAT ARE GIVING US A SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT ON SERVICES. WHEN. SO WHEN THEY GET ADOPTED, THEY'RE SELECTING. THEY GET. THE ADOPTER WILL GET THIS. WE CALL IT A CONTRACT. I WANT TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT A LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT. YEAH. SO YOU'LL WANT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH THAT. THAT'S HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT LEGALLY BINDING. BUT THIS WE DON'T TELL THE ADOPTERS THAT WE JUST SIGNED THIS. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S A CONTRACT OR WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP THEM. WE'RE HERE TO HELP THE DOGS. WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO LIKE, TRACK THEM DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS. WE DO OUR BEST, BUT. SO ANYWAY, THE ADOPTER IS GOING TO SELECT FROM THE THREE VETS, ONE OF WHICH. IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM HERE IN LAKE LAVON, AND THEY'VE BEEN WITH US. THAT'S DOCTOR LAMPING AT LAKE LAVON. ANIMAL HOSPITAL HAS BEEN WITH US FROM THE BEGINNING. ONE OF OUR CO-FOUNDERS USED TO LIVE IN WYLIE. SO. SO THAT WORKS OUT. WHAT ELSE? SO WE DO ASK THAT THE ADOPTERS TO PAY $50, $50 TOWARDS A TREATMENT. WE CALL IT KIND OF LIKE A COPAY. THAT'S JUST A WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT THEM TO HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, SO TO SPEAK, SOME, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE ADOPTING, THEY'RE TAKING THIS ON IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE WITH HEARTWORM TREATMENT. SO THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT HERE, AS WELL AS THE TREATMENT PROTOCOL THAT WE FOLLOW. THERE'S IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF

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THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. THERE'S SO MANY. THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS. I'VE ALSO PROVIDED THIS. THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE USE WITH COLLIN COUNTY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DETAIL YOU WANT ME TO. GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH IT. OKAY, YOU GUYS TELL ME IF I'M GIVING YOU TOO MUCH, TOO LITTLE. SO THE PROCESS THAT WE I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF LAY OUT WHERE WE HIT THE DIFFERENT POINTS IN YOUR PROCESS. AND WE WOULD NEED TO, IF YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD NEED TO KIND OF INTEGRATE IN WITH HOW YOU GUYS DO THINGS. BUT SO. THE FIRST STEP IS ALL THE DOGS WOULD NEED TO BE HEARTWORM TESTED. AND WE DO ASK THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SHIFTED COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES TO DO WITH 100%. EVERY TIME ANY DOG GETS SPAYED OR NEUTERED, ANYTIME THEY'RE GOING UP FOR ADOPTION, THEY'RE GETTING THAT HEARTWORM TEST. SO IF THE DOG IS POSITIVE, THEY REACH OUT. THEY WERE TECHNICALLY, THEY REACH OUT TO US. WE SAY, YES, WE CAN SPONSOR IT. WE JUST SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, AND WE CAN PROVIDE ANY KIND OF INFORMATION YOU NEED ON THAT SIDE WITH OUR FINANCES. BUT WE DON'T SPONSOR A DOG IF WE DON'T HAVE MONEY. SO WE KNOW THE AVERAGE COST FOR HEARTWORM TREATMENT. IF IT'S A 10 POUND DOG, IT'S GOING TO BE LESS THAN A 90 POUND DOG. BUT SO THAT WE'D WANT TO HAVE A PROCESS LIKE THAT IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN DO THIS. I MEAN, THAT WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY FOR EVERY SINGLE DOG. BUT AS I SAID, WITH COLLIN COUNTY, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT 100% OF THE TIME. WE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SPONSOR EVERY SINGLE DOG THAT TESTED POSITIVE. BUT SO I THINK WE, I THINK WE WOULD BE FINE THERE. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROMISING. SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.

SO AND LIKE WITH COLLIN COUNTY NOW, SINCE WE KNOW WHAT OUR FUNDS LOOK LIKE, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME, I WILL TELL THEM IF WE GET INTO A POSITION THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, WE HOPEFULLY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO. ALL RIGHT. AND SO THEN WE PROVIDE THIS PAPERWORK. BOTH OF THE ITEMS HERE AT COLLIN COUNTY, WE PUT THIS IN THE POUCH. I THINK THEY HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR. SO THAT THEN WHEN WHEN SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN ADOPTING THE. I USE THE TERM ADOPTION COUNSELOR, I KNOW THAT. SO IF THAT THAT MEANS ANYBODY THAT'S WORKING WITH AN ADOPTER, RIGHT. TO POTENTIALLY ADOPT OUT A DOG. AND I KNOW IN YOUR CASE, THIS STAFF A LOT RIGHT NOW. SO IF THAT'S EVER VOLUNTEERS. THE SAME THING APPLIES THOUGH, THAT WE WANT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN ALL OF THEM, WHICH IS A ONE HOUR LITTLE SESSION THAT I GIVE ON, YOU KNOW, OUR PROCESS AND WHAT HEARTWORMS ARE SO THAT THEY CAN EDUCATE THAT ADOPTER, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE. KIND OF BOUGHT INTO THIS WHOLE THING AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO ADOPT. BUT ANYWAY, SO WE HAVE THIS AND OTHER OTHER INFORMATION, I GUESS, THAT THEY WOULD SHARE, AND WE WOULD WANT THE STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS TO BE DOING THAT WITH ANYBODY INTERESTED IN ONE OF THESE DOGS. AND THEN AT ADOPTION, THEY'RE JUST WE'RE ASKING YOU TO COLLECT THIS INFORMATION FOR US, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE DOG AND THEN THE ADOPTERS NAME AND EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER. THAT'S SO THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP SO THAT WE CAN TRACK. AND WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT IF WE HEAR FROM ONE OF THE VETS THAT THIS PERSON WANTS TO TREAT THEIR DOG FOR HEARTWORMS, WE SAY, YES, THAT'S ONE OF OUR DOGS. SO AND WE ALSO WILL REACH OUT IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM. LIKE IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ONE OF OUR VETS SAYING THAT THEY HAVE SCHEDULED THEIR APPOINTMENTS, THAT KIND OF THING. SO AT THE. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE FRONT CHECKOUT PROCEDURE IS AT THE SHELTER, THEY WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THAT. AND THEN WE WOULD PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR US TO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION, PROBABLY ELECTRONICALLY. YEAH. SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ALL OF OUR RECORDS STRAIGHT. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCESS. THE THE NEXT SHEET IS JUST SHOWING THE SOME HIGH LEVEL STUFF. I THINK I'VE MENTIONED ALL OF THEM AT THIS POINT. THE HIGH LEVEL KIND OF REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE ON THE SHELTER, WHICH WOULD BE TO TEST ALL OF THE DOGS AT SIX MONTHS, ANYBODY SIX MONTHS OF

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AGE OR OLDER. THE COMMUNICATION WITH US WOULD NEED TO BE PUT IN PLACE OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO, HOW WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO SKIP THE THIRD ONE AND COME BACK TO IT THEN. AND THE TRAINING OF ADOPTION COUNSELORS. AND YOU WOULD NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING WITH ADOPTERS, ALL OF THAT. THE THIRD BULLET, THERE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE. WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S UNIQUE BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA YOUR RETURN POLICY IS DIFFERENT FROM COLLIN COUNTY. SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IS IF BASED ON YOUR CURRENT RETURN POLICY, IF SOMEBODY FROM MCKINNEY ADOPTED A DOG, I SHOULDN'T USE MCKINNEY, BUT SOMEBODY FROM DALLAS AND ADOPTED A DOG. THEY LIVE IN DALLAS AND IT'S HEARTWORM POSITIVE. THEY GO. IF THEY NEEDED TO RETURN THE DOG FOR ANY REASON, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO RETURN IT. WE'RE ASKING THAT IF THAT DOG HAS BEEN UNDER OUR SPONSORSHIP, THAT YOU ACCEPT THAT DOG. THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE INVESTED AT THAT POINT. WE'VE POTENTIALLY SPENT, YOU KNOW, $1,000 ON THE DOG AT THAT POINT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES AND BE EUTHANIZED FOR SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT NOT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT YOU DO WITH THE ANIMAL. WE'RE NOT ASKING ANYTHING SPECIAL IN THAT REGARD, BUT JUST TO ACCEPT THOSE DOGS BACK SO THAT THEN AND THEN MAKE YOUR DECISION.

BUT SO THAT'S THE. THE, THE, I GUESS THE REQUIREMENTS OR THE REQUESTS WE WOULD HAVE FOR THE SHELTER. OKAY. SHOULD I HAVE PAUSED FOR QUESTIONS? SORRY. THANK YOU. ALLISON, THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. I'LL LEAVE IT IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO SAY THE LAST COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE ACTUALLY OPENED UP A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ME. MOSTLY WHEN A DOG, IF A DOG IS RETURNED, DO YOU AND THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF TREATMENT, DO YOU STILL CONTINUE TREATMENT WITH, OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH THE SHELTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T GET OFF TRACK? YES. SO WE DO CASE BY CASE. WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TREATMENT.

AS IF THEY HAVE STARTED INJECTIONS. SO IF THEY'VE JUST STARTED ON, SAY, THE DOXYCYCLINE THE FIRST 30 DAYS. IT DEPENDS. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE TREATING DOGS IN THE SHELTER AT COLLIN COUNTY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OPEN TO, BUT THAT PUTS A LOT OF. WORK ON THE STAFF, RIGHT, IN HAVING TO KEEP THE DOGS CALM. THEY CAN'T GO RUN AROUND IN THE PLAY YARD OR WHATEVER. SO BUT IF THEY ARE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE, THEY'VE HAD INJECTIONS AND THEY COME BACK DURING WHAT IS CALLED THE RESTRICT, LIKE A RESTRICTED ACTIVITY PERIOD THEN AND THEY STILL NEED ANOTHER INJECTION, THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE AND WE WOULD WE WOULD FIGURE OUT WITH STAFF HOW TO DO THAT AT COLLIN COUNTY. WE WOULD JUST WE JUST FIND A VOLUNTEER THERE TO TRANSPORT TO THE VET, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE SHOT AND GO BACK.

AND THEN THEY, THEY'LL MANAGE, YOU KNOW, WITH SIGNS ON THE KENNEL AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

SO BUT I GUESS THE SHORT ANSWER WAS YES. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FOSTER SITUATION IF THAT DOES HAPPEN. SO I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE LIKE FOSTER VOLUNTEERS OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD AT LEAST I'M ASSUMING IN THAT SITUATION THAT WE COULD DO THAT, JUST GET IT INTO FOSTER ONE SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY IN THE MAIN POPULATION. SO WE ARE NOT A FOSTER RESCUE GROUP. SO TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY THE ANSWER IS NO, NOT THROUGH US, BUT WE WITH COLLIN COUNTY, WE HAVE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FOSTER PROGRAM. AND SO IT GOES INTO FOSTER WITH COLLIN COUNTY AND WE SPONSOR THE VET BILLS. AND SO YEAH, WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE JUST WOULDN'T BE PROVIDING THE. FOSTER. THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. AND THEN I DID. I'M. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT MIGHT BE MORE FOR, FOR YOU ALL IS I MEAN, DOES THIS BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE BECAUSE WE'RE A CITY FACILITY. WE ONLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPENING UP DOORS. DOES THAT IS THERE ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE OR OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE WOULD THEN BE ACCEPTING AN ANIMAL FROM A NON CITY NON RESIDENT AND WHAT THAT WHAT THAT WOULD PROCESS, WOULD THAT NEED TO BE GOING THROUGH CITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER TO DO THAT? SO LIKE IT IS IN OUR ORDINANCE, I THINK THAT WE DO ONLY TAKE ANIMALS FROM THE CITY LIMITS OF WYLIE, BUT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR THINGS THAT GET ADOPTED OUT FROM THE SHELTER, NOT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT THAT'S JUST LIKE STANDARD OPERATING FOR FOR MOST SHELTERS. WE JUST FOR THE LONGEST TIME HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY WHERE WE DON'T TAKE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. BUT WE WE'VE TAKEN DOGS BEFORE WHERE WE'VE GOT THEM

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ADOPTED OUT AND THEY LIVE IN OTHER CITIES AND WE'VE TAKEN SOME. SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THAT AND JUST ADJUST IT TO WHERE SOMEBODY THAT ADOPTS FROM US CAN STILL BRING THE ANIMAL BACK TO US. AND THAT THAT I WOULD I WOULDN'T THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE, JUST IN OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAD, TOO. SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT THE REQUEST FOR.

US ACCEPTING A DOG BACK IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AGREEABLE TO AND IS AMENABLE TO WHAT YOU NEED TO OPERATE. CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. MY QUESTION IS ON THE PROTOCOL WRITTEN HERE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE DOGS COME TO US IN QUITE A STATE. DOES THIS INCLUDE THE STAGING PROCEDURES IN TERMS OF IS THE DOG TOO FAR PROGRESSED WITH HEARTWORMS? HAVE YOU HAD OR WHAT STATISTICS DO YOU HAVE OF DOGS THAT HAVE. THERE'S SOME DOGS THAT DIE DURING HEARTWORM TREATMENTS. BY THE SECOND INJECTION. THERE ARE SOME DOGS THAT ARE NOT HANDLING IT WELL. DO YOU HAVE STATISTICS ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE WAYS OF TELLING. THIS IS A GOOD CANDIDATE TO TREAT? WE SHOULD PUT OUR FINANCES HERE OR THIS IS NOT A GOOD CANDIDATE TO TREAT. DO YOU HAVE WAYS OF TELLING THAT? SO WE. SO IN AT THE INITIAL POINT OF THE DOG TEST POSITIVE. WE'RE GOING TO SPONSOR BASICALLY. SO WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION. IF THE SHELTER IS SAYING THIS IS AN ADOPTABLE DOG, WHICH I DON'T. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO CHRIS ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF A DOG IS CLEARLY SYMPTOMATIC. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE STILL GOING TO PUT THAT DOG UP FOR ADOPTION, THAT WHATEVER'S HAPPENING TODAY, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE SAME. BUT IF THEY GO UP FOR ADOPTION, WE'LL SPONSOR. BUT WE'RE ONLY IT'S GOING TO BE THE VETERINARIAN THAT'S GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS DOG CAN BE TREATED, WHETHER. SO AS A GENERAL RULE, OUR VETERINARIANS ARE NOT DOING X-RAYS UP FRONT TO, YOU KNOW, TO AS A DIAGNOSTIC, RIGHT, TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN TELL FROM THAT AS A GENERAL RULE. BUT IF THE DOG IS OLDER, SO THEY BASE IT ON THEIR OWN JUDGMENT. BUT IT'S NOT A WE CAN'T WORK, WE CAN'T WORK WITH THE VETERINARIANS THAT WANT TO DO THE X-RAYS AND BLOOD WORK AND ALL OF THESE THINGS FOR EVERY SINGLE CASE. THAT'S WHEN IT'S GOING TO HIT $2,000 OR WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY CASE. BUT LIKE DOCTOR LAMPING, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE, HE'LL. THEY WILL JUST. AND ACTUALLY, ALL OF OUR VETS WILL JUST EMAIL AND TELL ME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO X-RAYS ON THIS ONE, WHATEVER. AND WE'RE, WE WILL COVER THAT, BUT NOT, NOT FOR EVERY SINGLE DOG. IF IT'S A ONE YEAR OLD DOG, NINE MONTH OLD, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COVER ALL OF THOSE. DOES THAT ANSWER? DO YOU HAVE STATISTICS ON THESE PETS, ON THE. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK. WE DON'T HAVE STATISTICS LIKE FOR EVERY DOG THAT WE'VE SPONSORED. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? OR THE STATISTICS OR MOST DOGS THAT YOU HAVE SPONSORED OR SUCCESS RATE OF TREATMENTS OF THESE DOGS THAT ARE SPONSORED? BECAUSE WITH HEARTWORMS, YES, THE NINE MONTH OLD DOG, THAT'S POSITIVE. THAT ONE IS MUCH EASIER TO TREAT THAN THE FOUR YEAR OLD DOG WITH A HEART MURMUR, OR THAT CHIHUAHUA THAT'S FOUR YEARS OLD AND HAS A HEART MURMUR AND ALL THAT. WE EXPECT MORE COMPLICATIONS FROM THAT, AND WE HAVE SEEN COMPLICATIONS IN THE TREATMENT PROTOCOLS WITH A LITTLER DOGS THAT HAVE A HIGH WORM LOAD OR HIGH WORM BURDEN. IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH OF JUST A HEARTWORM TEST. AND THERE ARE SOME DOGS THAT DIE DURING THESE PROCEDURES AND DURING HEARTWORM TREATMENT, WHAT, BECAUSE THESE DOGS ARE ALREADY ADOPTED OUT. SO THIS IS A DOG COMING BACK FOR TREATMENT. HOW DOES THE HOW DO YOUR STATISTICS LOOK IN TERMS OF THE DOGS THAT PASS THROUGH THIS TREATMENT, SAY AT THAT STAGE OF TREATMENT, ESPECIALLY THE LITTLE ONES, THOSE ONES LIKE TO DIE, BUT THEY'RE THE MOST ADOPTABLE LOOKING AT THEM. YES. SO WE I DON'T HAVE WE CAN'T WE DON'T TRACK. SO OUR VETS ARE NOT FOLLOWING BACK UP WITH US TO

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SAY WE STOPPED THE TREATMENT AFTER THE FIRST TWO INJECTIONS OR EVEN AFTER INJECTION ONE OR EVEN. THEY USUALLY WILL TELL US THAT WE'RE NOT TREATING. WE'RE USUALLY HAVING TO CALL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CALL TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOMEBODY THAT HASN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN FINISH A TREATMENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, RECORDS. WE'RE NOT TRACKING EVERY DOG THROUGH COMPLETION. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SPONSORING WHATEVER THAT VET NEEDS TO DO. AND IF THEY SAY WE CAN'T TREAT THIS DOG IS FINE WITH US. LIKE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN OWNED DOG AT THAT POINT. SO TO US, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS ADOPTING OUT A DOG THAT HASN'T BEEN TESTED AT ALL. RIGHT. AND THEN THE ADOPTER FINDING OUT IT'S POSITIVE. AND THEN EITHER MAYBE RETURNING THE DOG OR THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO A VET ON THEIR OWN. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SAYING LET'S TEST THEM ALL UP FRONT. SO WHO'S POSITIVE? IF THEY'RE POSITIVE, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU WITH THE TREATMENT. BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE UP TO VETERINARIANS TO, TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT TREATMENT IS. THE ONLY REASON WE HAVE PROTOCOL HERE IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ALL THE VETS ARE DOING. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NECESSARILY GOING TO DO THAT FOR EVERY SINGLE DOG, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TRACKING IT.

WE'RE WE DON'T OWN ANY OF THE DOGS. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAKES SENSE. RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HAVE FINISHED? ACTUALLY, I KNOW HOW MANY HAVE FINISHED, BUT JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM SOMEBODY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACCURATE DATA. YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT THIS ONE I JUST DON'T KNOW ALL THE TIME. RIGHT. SO I, I CAN'T GUESS ON WHAT ANY OTHERS HAVE GONE THROUGH, WHETHER THE OWNER JUST NEVER WENT TO THE VET AT ALL, WHETHER THEY WENT TO A VET AND SAID, WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T TREAT OR SOME OF THEM GO TO THEIR OWN VET AND DO EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN. WE DON'T AND THEY DON'T USE OUR FUNDS, WHICH IS WHICH IS WONDERFUL. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT ONE. BUT. SO I CAN TELL YOU THE ONLY I MEAN, I KNOW THAT I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT GETS REPORTED BACK, WHICH IS AN EXTREMELY SMALL NUMBER OF DOGS THAT DON'T SURVIVE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DIDN'T SURVIVE THE TREATMENT, THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT ALL OF THEM ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE TREATMENT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SO THEY MAY TELL ME THAT A DOG DIDN'T SURVIVE. AND THAT'S HAPPENED LIKE A HANDFUL LESS THAN FIVE TIMES OUT OF IN TEN YEARS WITH IT. YEAH. BUT THAT I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S ACCURATE. YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A COMPLETE DATA SET BECAUSE WE'RE NOT I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER, SO THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD TELL YOU I HAVE DATA WHEN I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE REAL DATA. IT HAS TO BE REAL, REAL DATA FOR ME TO SAY THAT. SO SORRY THAT. BUT YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. AND THERE'S ALSO THE SAME KIND OF DISCUSSIONS OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS PARTICULAR TREATMENT. THEY WANT TO DO SLOW KILL. THEY WANT TO DO DIFFERENT PROTOCOLS. IF THEY WE, I THINK ONLY ONE OF OUR VETS WILL EVEN DO THAT. BUT WE TRY TO SUPPORT WITH WHATEVER WE CAN. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE OWNED DOGS AT THIS POINT. WE CAN'T FORCE THEM ANY CERTAIN WAY TO TREAT THE DOG. BUT WE WILL TRY TO SUPPORT WHATEVER TREATMENT THAT THE VET AND THE OWNER AGREE NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO HOW MANY HOW MANY HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOGS DO WE HAVE COMING THROUGH THE SHELTER? LIKE, HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? SO WE CURRENTLY DON'T TEST. SO WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULD START TESTING AND THEN I COULD MAYBE GET YOU BETTER NUMBERS ON THAT. I WILL SAY WE PROBABLY DO A COUPLE A YEAR AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OR THE HOW ADOPTABLE THE ANIMAL IS, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT. SO BASICALLY WE'RE, WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF, HEY, IF WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND, LIKE SHE SAID, IT CAN GET UP TO LIKE $1,500 SOMETIMES. SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF WAY THAT AND HOW ADOPTABLE THE ANIMAL IS. SO ONCE WE KNOW THAT IT'S HEARTWORM POSITIVE WITH US CURRENTLY IT'S A, IT'S EITHER WE'RE GOING TO HUMANELY EUTHANIZE THE ANIMAL OR WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THE TREATMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE TWO OPTIONS. THIS GIVES US A THIRD OPTION.

SO SO I GUESS WITH THAT, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT COULD SINCE WE'RE NOT TESTING IT RIGHT NOW, WOULD THAT POTENTIALLY BE A CAUSE US TO INCREASE OUR EUTHANIZATION RATE

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THEN? YES. AND WE AND WE CURRENTLY USE TCAT FOR OUR STERILIZATION. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE WERE, WHAT I WAS PLANNING WAS JUST SEEING WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE ON OUR TOTAL AMOUNT OF ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE T T CAT PROGRAM. AND THEN IT'S ABOUT $20 THROUGH THE HEARTWORM TEST. SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE. AND THEN I JUST GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AFTER THAT, BUT JUST KIND OF STARTING THIS OFF. SO BUT YEAH, AND THEN ONCE I FIGURE THAT I CAN GET YOU GUYS NUMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BUDGETING FITTING WITHIN, WITHIN THE BUDGET, WHETHER IT'S COMING THROUGH THE CITY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEN THAT YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE. LIKE IF IT'S 40 DOGS A YEAR THAT, THAT YOU FEEL, I KNOW YOU SAY YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE ALL OF THEM, BUT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AT LEAST A MAJORITY OF THEM AND THEN IF NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT THEN ALSO BECAUSE SINCE YOU ONLY HAVE THE ONE, THE ONE VET HERE, THE OTHER QUESTION MY CONCERN WOULD BE IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT VET COULD HANDLE THAT EXTRA INFLUX OF ADDITIONAL 40 DOGS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY COMING TO THEM. AND IF IF NOT, WAS THERE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO FIND ANOTHER, A FOURTH VET TO HELP? BECAUSE YOU I MEAN, I DON'T THINK A DOCTOR HERE WOULD GO UP TO MCKINNEY NECESSARILY FOR THE FOR THE VETS. I MEAN, I WOULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERY EVERY ADOPTER WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. RIGHT. IF IF WE DO SOME BROAD GENERALIZATIONS, COLLIN COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT INTAKE NUMBERS COMPARE. IS IT FIVE TIMES MORE THERE TEN TIMES MORE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE MUCH, MUCH HIGHER THAN US. TEN TIMES MORE. YEAH. SO WE DO MAYBE WE DO 50 TO 70 DOGS A YEAR AT COLLIN COUNTY. SO I'M EXPECTING YOUR NUMBERS WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO TEN OR LESS PER YEAR. BUT AND YOU'RE NOT ALL THE UNINCORPORATED WHERE IT MIGHT, I DON'T KNOW, I ASSUME IT MIGHT BE MORE PREVALENT OUT THERE WITH LESS DOGS BEING OWNED, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA. YOU'LL BE SURPRISED. LIKE WHAT? DOGS WILL COME APART WHEN POSITIVE THAT YOU DIDN'T WOULDN'T HAVE EXPECTED. BUT LIKE THE LITTLE CHIHUAHUA THAT, AND I WILL SAY TOO, WOULD HAVE BEEN AN INDOOR DOG. BUT WE'RE FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS. OR WHO KNOWS. THAT JUST GIVES US ANOTHER OPTION FOR HEARTWORM POSITIVE, BECAUSE THEY DO. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF SIMILAR. THEY DON'T DO THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE THAT THEY CAN DO EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT THEY DO THAT TREATMENT TOO. SO WE HAVE KIND OF SOME, IF YOU GUYS AREN'T ABLE TO, MAYBE WE CAN GO TO FRIENDS OF RESCUE ANIMALS OR VICE VERSA. SO WE HAVE IT JUST GIVES US ANOTHER SET OF OPTIONS AND THE ADOPTER AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING OF IT, IT'S REALLY ON THE ADOPTER. SO ONCE, ONCE THEY ADOPT FROM US, WE GIVE THEM ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEN THEY KIND OF DECIDE, DO THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH YOU GUYS OR DO THEY WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? BUT IT JUST GIVES THE ADOPTER AN OPTION TO BECAUSE WITH FRIENDS, RESCUE ANIMALS CURRENTLY, IT WOULD BE IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT WE HAVE THE ANIMAL. SO IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WHAT ADOPT MY HEART WILL DO. SO WE HAVE TO HOLD ON TO THE ANIMAL. NOW WE CAN DO LIKE WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING AT THE BEGINNING WHERE WE DO A FOSTER. SO LIKE CURRENTLY ONE OF THE ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE IS IN FOSTER. SHE WENT TODAY AFTER SHE GOT HER TREATMENT YESTERDAY. SO SHE, SHE JUST WENT AND GOT HER FIRST LITTLE START OF HER TREATMENT. AND THEN WE HAD A FOSTER THAT'S WILLING TO TAKE IT. SO JUST, JUST TRYING TO GIVE OPTIONS FOR ADOPTERS AND, AND THINGS, ESPECIALLY FOR DOGS THAT DO HAVE HEARTWORM POSITIVE BECAUSE THAT WAY WE ALSO HAVE MORE OPTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO FOR, FOR THOSE ANIMALS. SO I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY OTHER LAST QUESTION WOULD HAVE BEEN IF WE DO, IF WE WERE TO HAVE ONE THAT WAS THAT WAS POSITIVE AND IT WAS IT WAS TAKING TIME TO BE ADOPTED. WOULD WE EVER START THAT TREATMENT TREATMENT PROTOCOL INTERNALLY JUST TO GET IT STARTED IF THAT WAS HAPPENING? BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DO THAT ALREADY ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. OKAY. YEAH. AND WE, WE CAN HELP WITH THOSE AS WELL. IF, IF I MEAN, YOU HAVE MORE RESOURCES. SO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER CAN HELP IF THERE. BUT IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. SO COLLIN COUNTY, WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE VERY CLOSE. WE'VE BEEN VERY CLOSE TO, TO WHERE WE ARE TREATING DOGS THAT ARE AT THE SHELTER ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE DO IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU NEED TO MAKE YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR MEDS EVERY DAY THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DOG. AND SO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN HELP WITH THAT TOO, IF IT'S NEEDED. AND JUST, I WANTED TO ADD, I DIDN'T MENTION AT ANY POINT ABOUT FUNDRAISING. I SAID, WE'RE 100% DONATION BASED, BUT THE, THE

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MAJORITY OF OUR MONEY COMES IN THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, NORTH TEXAS GIVING DAY. AND THEN WE ALSO WE ADMINISTER KENNEL SPONSORSHIPS AT COLLIN COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. SO THAT'S A ONCE A YEAR, ONCE A YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SPONSORING A KENNEL, YOU CAN RENEW IT. AND THOSE FUNDS COME TO US. WE ALSO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON SPAY NEUTER. SO SOME OF THAT GOES TO SPAY NEUTER, BUT THAT JUST IS ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDS. OF COURSE, THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE EXCLUSIVE TO COLLIN COUNTY IF WE MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WE WOULD BE TRACKING SEPARATE FUNDS. WE WOULD BASICALLY HAVE A WILEY PROGRAM. WE WOULD HAVE COLLIN COUNTY PROGRAM. WE WOULD HAVE A GENERAL FUND AS WELL. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, USE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT, WE WOULD JUST DO PROBABLY FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE KIND OF THING. SO AS FAR AS SPONSORING, BUT THAT'S, I THINK. I HAVE A, A COUPLE THINGS, I GUESS. SO WITH THE PROTOCOL, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STEPS WITH IT. DOES THE ADOPTION COUNSELING CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE PROTOCOL OR IT'S JUST VET COORDINATION AND THEN IT'S UP TO THEM. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM TO TAKE THE ANIMAL TO THE VET, BUT DO YOU FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON DAY 21 WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. LET'S GET YOUR APPOINTMENT MADE FOR STEP TWO OF THE PROTOCOL. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO OR IS IT STRICTLY YOU PAY THE VET UP FRONT AS IF THE ADOPTER IS GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROTOCOL. SO WE DON'T TRACK IT WITH THE ADOPTER ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AT THAT POINT, IT'S WITH THE VET. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SCHEDULING, OKAY. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT ADOPTER TO MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENT, THAT FIRST APPOINTMENT TO GET THEM STARTED, YOU KNOW, TO GET, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S CALLING, EMAILING. AND I'LL TELL YOU SOME OF THEM, YOU GET NOTHING. NOBODY, NOBODY ANSWERS THE PHONE, NOBODY RESPONDS TO IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF WE HEAR FROM OUR VETS. BUT IS THAT BUT YOU FOLLOW UP WITH THE VET AND NOT THE ADOPTER, THE WAY THAT THE THE WAY IT WORKS WITH OUR VETS IS THEY INVOICE US. THAT'S HOW I KNOW. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK TO THE VET FOR EVERY ANIMAL. I MEAN, WE PROBABLY HAVE 30 ANIMALS IN TREATMENT AT ONE TIME, MAYBE 20 OR 30, BECAUSE IT'S A LONG PROTOCOL. SO IT ALL OVERLAPS. BUT SO YEAH, AND I HAVE SOME VETS THAT WILL WAIT. AND UNTIL I ASK THEM, DO YOU HAVE INVOICES FOR ME? DO YOU HAVE IT? AND I HAVE SOME THAT WILL SEND THEM EVERY WEEK. SO IT THAT WAS A CHALLENGE. I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE TEN YEARS AGO THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE MONEY RIGHT AWAY. BUT I KNOW IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY AND I GET IT, BUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I GUESS MY NEXT THING WAS, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH COLLIN COLLEGE? BECAUSE IF WE'RE HEARTWORM TESTING ALL THE DOGS, I'M ASSUMING COLLIN COLLEGE IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO TAKE HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOGS INTO THEIR PROGRAM. AND DO WE HAVE TO QUARANTINE? WE DON'T. SO EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD, I GUESS IT SHOULDN'T AFFECT ANYTHING. OKAY. I THINK. RIGHT. YEAH. WHEN THEY'RE LEARNING ABOUT HEARTWORMS, THEY ACTUALLY DO SEEK OUT THOSE HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOGS BECAUSE THERE ARE METHODS THAT THEY USE TO ACTUALLY GET THE EGGS FROM THE AND THE WORMS FROM THE BLOODSTREAM. SO THEY DO LIKE THOSE HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOGS. IT COMES BACK TO AS WELL CANDIDATE SELECTION, WHICH WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH THE WITH THE COLLIN COLLEGE. LIKE WE'LL NEED TO HAVE CANDIDATE SELECTION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PAPER WAS AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THEY LEARNING AT THAT POINT AND WHAT WILL THEY USE OUR PETS FOR? THE BIG THING, WHICH CHRIS WILL HAVE TO WORK ON IS OUR SIGN OFF AND OUR ADOPTION SHEET, BECAUSE AT THIS TIME IT READS, WE ARE NOT TESTING THEM. AND WE TEST MAINLY A CASE BY CASE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADD THAT THE DOG HAS BEEN TESTED FOR HEARTWORM IS NEGATIVE, OR IF IT IS POSITIVE, THESE ARE THE OPTIONS OF SAY, LIKE ADOPT MY HEART OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE AT THIS TIME IT SAYS THE DOG YOU'RE GETTING IS AS IS. AND HEARTWORM TESTING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO WE'LL NEED TO CHANGE OUR ADOPTION PAPERWORK ON THAT ASPECT BEFORE PRESENTING IT TO THE TO THE CITIZEN, SO THAT THEY HAVE FULL DISCLOSURE OF

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THE HEARTWORM STATUS OF THE DOG, WHICH CHRIS WILL LET US KNOW IN THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE HE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH BUDGET OF HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO HEARTWORM TEST EACH DOG.

ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS IN THAT BUDGET THAT YOU MAY BE EXPERIENCING NOW WITH THE ONES IN TREATMENT IS ONCE WE FIND THEM POSITIVE AND SAY WE START THEIR TREATMENT IN THE SHELTER, SOMETIMES THEY DO HAVE TO FINISH THEIR TREATMENT. IN THE SHELTER IS THE ECONOMICS OF KEEPING THAT DOG IN THE SHELTER FOR 60 TO 90 DAYS. SO OUR TIME IN THE SHELTER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PET MAY INCREASE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT. IF WE START TREATMENT IN THE SHELTER, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THIS PET TO BE ADOPTED OUT DURING TREATMENT. AND SO THE SHELTER DOES NOT INCUR THE COST OF KEEPING THIS PET IN THE SHELTER FOR AN EXTRA 90 DAYS. WE CAN GET IT IN AND OUT OF THE DOOR FASTER WITH YOUR PROGRAM. BUT WE DO HAVE TO BEAR IN MIND, YES, WE HAVE TO PUT IN TESTING FOR THE DOGS IN PLACE, PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THIS IS WHERE THE STATE OF THEIR DOG, ESPECIALLY FOR HEARTWORM STATUS, BUT FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON THAT I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK THE DOGS THAT WE HAVE NOW IS A SPECIAL CASE THAT WE TREAT. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WOULD SAY, LET'S NOT START THE TREATMENTS INSIDE THE SHELTER, BECAUSE IT'S A DOG THAT WE WILL END UP KEEPING MUCH LONGER. AND THEY DO REQUIRE MORE INTENSIVE CARE. SO WE WOULD NEED MORE STAFF, MORE TIME AT THE SHELTER, MORE. IT COSTS MORE, IT COSTS. THE LONGER WE HAVE THAT DOG IN THE SHELTER PER DAY. AND WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THAT IN THE CASES THAT ARE TREATED AT THE SHELTER IN COLLIN COUNTY, OR A DOG GETS RETURNED, IT'S VERY I'M NOT SURE THEY'VE EVER ACTUALLY THEY WOULD THEY STAY UP FOR ADOPTION EXCEPT FOR THE LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE INJECTION. BUT BUT THEY DON'T GET ADOPTED.

THEY DON'T GET YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DO AN INTRO. YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THE DOG HOME. YOU CAN'T. IT'S. YEAH. SO I DON'T ONCE THE DOG IS CLEAR FROM HEARTWORMS, IT'S GREAT. BUT BEFORE OR COMPLETELY AFTER IS SEEMS TO BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL TIME RIGHT TO ADOPT. SO I AGREE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY ANOTHER GOOD RESOURCE. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS COIN, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. THE BABIES WHO GET A NEGATIVE TEST, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. HOW QUICKLY CAN THEY START PREVENTATIVE MEASURES. SO THIS COULD ACTUALLY BE A BENEFIT ON THEIR ADOPTION PAPERWORK. IT'S LIKE, HEY, THEY'RE NEGATIVE FOR HEARTWORMS. SO WHEN YOU GO FOR THEIR FIRST CHECKUP, YOU CAN AUTOMATICALLY START AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR ANOTHER HEARTWORM TEST. HOW LONG DOES THAT NEGATIVE TEST LAST THAT THEY CAN 30 DAYS, 30. OKAY. 30 DAYS. IT'S GOOD FOR 30 DAYS. SO I GUESS WE COULD GIVE THEM A COPY OF THAT NEGATIVE HEARTWORM TEST AND MAKE WHEN THEY GO TO THE VET, THEY CAN START PREVENTATIVE MEASURES RIGHT AWAY. SO THAT'S A BENEFIT AS WELL. SO THIS IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH OUR CATS. SO WE DO FELINE LEUKEMIA TESTS FOR OUR CATS CURRENTLY. AND SO IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE ANYTIME WE GET THE TEST RESULT FOR THAT, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT TO THE DOCTOR. SO THEY KNOW AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM A VACCINE. SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN HEARTWORMS, BUT PRETTY SIMILAR IN THE IN THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE WOULD DO. NOW, I'M CURRENTLY. YEAH, IN THE CASE OF HEARTWORMS, THE TEST WORKS FORWARD. SO IF WE WERE TO TEST THAT DOG AND IT TESTS NEGATIVE, WE KNOW 30 DAYS FROM THAT TIME WE NEED THIS DOG OUT AND ALREADY ON PREVENTION. A WAY TO HELP IS IF IT'S STAYING LONGER AT THE SHELTER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT DOES STAY LONGER. THE SHELTER, MAKING SURE WE HAVE PREVENTION AT THE SHELTER TO GET THIS DOG STARTED TO KEEP THEIR HEARTWORM STATUS NEGATIVE. IF THEY'RE STAYING LONGER THAN THE 30 DAYS AT THE SHELTER. THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE. MY COMMENT WAS, IF WE COULD, THAT WOULD, I KNOW, BE ADDITIONAL BUDGET AND FUNDS.

BUT IF THEY ARE NEGATIVE TO START THEM ON PREVENTION BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT THE SHELTER. YEAH, YEAH, I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD BE ADOPTED BY 30 DAYS. I WOULD HOPE SO TOO. I WOULD, BUT ALSO ANOTHER JUST POSITIVE FOR ADOPTION. LIKE YOUR DOG IS ALREADY ONE MONTH OF PREVENTION. SO I SEE IT AS A LOT OF POSITIVES FOR JUST THE ADOPTION PROGRAM. ONE OTHER POINT ON THE TEST THAT WE'VE SEEN AT COLLIN COUNTY, SO THEY

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THEY DO THE TESTS IN-HOUSE OR THEY HAVE A VET TECH, OR THEY DO IT ON THE DAY OF VETTING, BUT IT'S IN THE SHELTER. AND MOST VETS DON'T TREAT THAT AS AN ACTUAL VALID HEARTWORM TEST.

SO THEY WILL RETEST IN YOUR CASE, IF YOU DO IT AT T CAP OR YOU DO IT AT A VET'S OFFICE, YOU SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WOULD HOLD, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IF YOU EVER START DOING IT AT THE SHELTER, THERE MAY BE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VETS ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME. OH WELL, A NEGATIVE TEST IS A NEGATIVE TEST SO LONG AS IT'S WITHIN 30 DAYS. BUT IF THEN WE WERE TO DO THEM AT THE SHELTER, IT'S A POSSIBILITY TO DO IT AT THE SHELTER. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT BLOOD SAMPLE COLLECTION OR SENDING SOMEBODY OVER EVERY SO OFTEN TO GET BLOOD SAMPLES, OR EVEN EQUIPPING YOU GUYS WITH THE TESTS. BECAUSE THE TESTS ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE. AND HOW TO DRAW THE SAMPLES FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TESTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ORGANIZE MOST. MOST OF THEM ARE RECOGNIZED SO LONG AS THE DATE THAT THE TEST WAS DONE IS WRITTEN IN THE TEST IS LIKE, LIKE FOR WHAT WE DO WITH MY ANIMAL HOSPITAL. THE TEST IS A POSITIVE TEST AND IT COMES WITH A PICTURE INCLUDING THE FELINE LEUKEMIA ONES. THIS IS THE TEST. IT'S A TRUE NEGATIVE. IT WAS TAKEN WITHIN THIS TIME BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY LOOK AT. BUT SO LONG AS THE DATE OF THAT TEST IS VALID AND THE TEST WAS A NEGATIVE TEST, WE TAKE IT THE TIMES WE DON'T TAKE IT AND HAVE TO RETEST. IF IT WAS A POSITIVE TEST AT THE SHELTER, THEN WE HAVE TO TEST IN ANOTHER METHOD TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A POSITIVE TEST, ESPECIALLY BEFORE PUTTING THE DOG THROUGH TREATMENT. AND THEN THE THIRD PART IS TO CHECK DO WE HAVE MICROFILARIA ALREADY? A LARGE AMOUNT OF BABY WORMS IN THE SYSTEM WAS THEN. THAT AFFECTS OUR PROTOCOL OF TREATMENT. WHETHER WE'LL DO OUR DAY 30, DAY 60, DAY 61, OR IF WE'LL NEED A DAY 30 DAY 60, DAY 90, DAY 91, OR WHETHER WE'LL HAVE A HOSPICE CASE ON HOW TO TREAT THIS PARTICULAR ONE. SO THAT'S WHEN THE TEST THAT WAS POSITIVE, SAY AT TEACUP OR INCONCLUSIVE A TEACUP, BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE THOSE TESTS THAT ARE INCONCLUSIVE. A VERY FAINT POSITIVE IS ONE OF THOSE INCONCLUSIVE TESTS OR A TEST THAT COMES UP AS TWO LINES, BUT NOT AT THE RIGHT PLACE. WE'LL LOOK AT THE KIND OF THOSE THINGS. THEN IF WE HAVE AN INCONCLUSIVE TEST, THEN WE REPEAT THE TEST. BUT A TRUE POSITIVE OR TRUE NEGATIVE, THEN WE KNOW THE STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN FROM THERE. AND THAT REMINDED ME OUR VETS ALWAYS IF SO, IF IT'S POSITIVE AT THE SHELTER, HOWEVER YOU'RE DOING THE TEST, OUR VETS WILL ALWAYS DO ANOTHER TEST. JUST LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE THEY START THE TREATMENT. SO AND WE DO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE IT IS. BUT THAT HAPPENS IN SOME OTHER CASE THAT YOU LOVE WHEN. AND THEY'LL USUALLY DO SOME OTHER BLOOD WORK OR SOMETHING TO MAKE EXTRA SURE. I AM NOT A VET. I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

USUALLY I START WITH THAT. AND JUST GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION, JUST KIND OF SEE WHAT ELSE, WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF THE PROGRAM AND IF I SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. I THINK IF WE JUST GETTING SOME OF THE ANSWERS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, COSTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO THAT WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATE NUMBERS AND THINGS JUST TO KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, EVEN IF IT'S A HANDFUL, AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THINK MIGHT, WOULD BE. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TWO DOGS, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, A MONTH OR WHATEVER? IT'S JUST THAT WAY. WE KNOW BECAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD JUST WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING WHERE IT IS A LOT MORE DOG AND THEN YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HELP AS MANY OF THEM AS THEY ARE. AND THEN, AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES MORE OF A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD PROBABLY LIE ON US A LOT MORE THAN. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY DOGS MIGHT NEED TREATMENT OR. YEAH, JUST, I MEAN, I JUST KIND OF ARE WE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ANIMALS DO YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD THAT WE AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE 100%, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS 50 ANIMALS OR 50 DOGS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT IN THAT INFLUX IN, IN COSTS IN, IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR OPERATIONS IN THE YEAR? SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS MAKING SURE WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ALL ABLE TO TAKE THAT EXTRA LOAD ON. AND JUST SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THAT WERE EVER TO HAPPEN WHEN,

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WHICH IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD IN OUR HEAD, IF AT COLLIN COUNTY, IF THAT EVER HAPPENED, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A BIG FUNDRAISER, RIGHT? NOT, NOT I DON'T MEAN PHYSICALLY LIKE A PARTY GALA, WHATEVER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BLAST FACEBOOK THAT WE NEED MONEY.

THERE'S I MEAN, WE WOULD SAY WHY AND IF WE HAVE PICTURES OF DOGS THAT ARE HEARTWORM POSITIVE THAT NEED TO BE SPONSORED, THEN OF COURSE, THAT REALLY DRAWS PEOPLE IN. SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE ENVISION. LUCKILY WE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN THERE. AND I DO THINK WITH THE, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE IN WILEY THAT I THINK WOULD GLADLY DONATE MONEY TO, WHETHER IT'S YOUR SHELTER TO A GROUP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR WILEY ANIMAL SHELTER, HEARTWORM FUND FOR ADOPT MY HEART, I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH A BASE THAT THEY COULD BE DONATING TO US NOW. WHO KNOWS, BUT THEY MIGHT REDIRECT. I WILL FIGURE IT OUT. I JUST WANT TO. YEAH, I DO FUNDRAISING FOR MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER. SO BUT IT'S ALSO THERE IS ALSO A LAG OF TIME THEN TO DO THAT TOO. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT OVERBURDENING YOU AS AN ORGANIZATION AND THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING MORE PROBLEMS BY DOING THE TEST AND REALIZING THAT GREAT QUESTIONS, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT WITH Y'ALL FIELDED A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED AFTER TEN YEARS. AND I CAN SEE THAT IN WHAT Y'ALL GOT ON THAT PAPER, ESPECIALLY YOUR PROCESS. I'M SURE THAT WAS SEVERAL ITERATIONS TO GET TO A PROCESS LIKE THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST SEE THIS AS A BIG POSITIVE FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. AND, AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M WITH THEM. I SEE THIS AS A POSITIVE RESOURCE, JUST AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE ON TOP OF THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS, YOU KNOW, A HEARTWORM POSITIVE DOG ISN'T NECESSARILY SUPER ADOPTABLE, BUT THIS MAKES THEM ADOPTABLE WHEN PEOPLE KNOW THEY HAVE THAT ABILITY TO THEY HAVE, THERE'S A VET THEY CAN TAKE THEM TO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO SEARCHING FOR IT. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, $50 IS STILL $50. IT'S NOT POCKET CHANGE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE NOT PUTTING $1,500 THERE. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST IT'S A REALLY GOOD RESOURCE. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I'M GOING TO MIMIC EVERYTHING THEY SAID. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A LABOR OF LOVE AND IT'S INCREDIBLE. YOU ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE HAD QUITE A FEW. CHRIS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS KIND OF STUFF INTO THE SHELTER, THESE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE COLLEGE AND FRIENDS OF RESCUED ANIMALS AND ADOPT MY HEART. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT OUR SHELTER EMBODIES. IT'S THE BETTERMENT OF THE ANIMALS. FOR THE RESIDENTS OF WYLIE. AND I MEAN, THOSE ANIMALS LIVE HERE, THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. THEY DESERVE THE BEST. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING IT. AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM AND COULD BE ANOTHER GREAT RESOURCE FOR OUR SHELTER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. AND THEN MICHAEL, I'M WORKING ON THE NUMBERS AND STUFF. I'LL GET THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND I'LL HAVE I'LL HAVE NUMBERS AND I'LL TRY TO GO BACK AND SEE HOW MANY OF HEARTWORM POSITIVES WE HAD. WE KIND OF GET AN IDEA.

UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T. WE DON'T TEST. SO IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF TOUGH, BUT AT LEAST I'LL KNOW THE ONES THAT WE DID TEST AND WE KIND OF GET A GENERAL IDEA THAT MIGHT HELP TOO. I MIGHT ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE COLLIN COUNTY'S NUMBERS, JUST TO KIND OF GET LIKE A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW MUCH OF THE POPULATION OF COLLIN COUNTY ENDS UP BEING POSITIVE AS THE SHELTER MANAGER TO GIVE ME THE I GUESS IT WOULD ALL FIGURE IT OUT. I'LL FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MANY HEARTWORM POSITIVE EVERY YEAR. I NEED HER TO TELL ME THE REST OF THE DATA.

HOW MANY OTHERS, I GUESS. AND I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT I'M FOR THIS, FOR THIS THING.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE I COME FROM A 20 YEARS IN NONPROFIT MANAGEMENT. I JUST KNOW THAT IT CAN BE REALLY EASY TO SAY YES TO THINGS AHEAD OF TIME AND NOT REALIZE WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE ALL UP FRONT AND KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO AND THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED AND NOT NOT OVERBURDENING ANYONE. SO THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH ANOTHER SHELTER. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, THOUGH, THAT WE HAVE BEEN FELT COMFORTABLE EXPLORING IT BASED ON THE SIZE OF YOUR SHELTER, BASED ON

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PERSONAL, YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE. I'M RECENTLY RETIRED, SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S I DON'T HAVE A FULL TIME JOB TO CONFLICT WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF THINGS. AND, BUT ANYWAY, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED, WE'RE EXCITED. AND WE THINK IT MIGHT I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET EXCITED ABOUT NEW THINGS ALWAYS. AND THAT MEANS MORE DONATIONS. AND SO. I THINK SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND SITTING THROUGH THIS WHOLE MEETING. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE NOW RECONVENE INTO THE REGULAR SESSION, AND THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO A VOTE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED

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