[00:00:02] AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE APRIL 14TH, 2026, CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, [CALL TO ORDER] TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6:02 P.M.. WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU'RE WITH US THIS EVENING AND YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EITHER TURNED OFF OR SET TO VIBRATE SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL, WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE. WE ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR. MAYOR. MATTHEW PORTER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVID DUKE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN TODD PICKENS. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM GINA MALIKI. PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, WHICH I WILL LEAD, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR THE U.S. AND TEXAS FLAGS, WHICH WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN PICKENS. DEAR LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON ALL OF US HERE. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TOGETHER IN A REPRESENTATIVE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US AND BLESSING US TO LIVE IN SUCH A GREAT COUNTRY. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD PUT YOUR HAND UPON ALL OF THOSE WHO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, BRING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS HOME SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND ALSO WATCH OVER THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY OVERSEAS, PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS. LORD, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU WOULD HELP US TO REMEMBER THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN LIFE. WE ASK FOR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AS WELL AS A COUNSEL AS WE DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO TEXAS. ONE SAY UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE. PLEASE BE SEATED. SO OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING ARE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. [PR1. National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week.] SO I WILL COME DOWN FRONT AND CALL PEOPLE TO JOIN ME AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE. FIRST. THIS EVENING WE HAVE OUR NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK. EVERYBODY HERE JUST. A COUPLE PEOPLE ON SHIFT. I THINK THEY GET WELL EARNED TIME OFF. YEAH. THAT THAT TENDS TO GET A MICROPHONE PUT TO YOU. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THIS EVENING WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS. OUR DISPATCH TEAM IS HERE THIS EVENING. THEY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF KEEPING THIS COMMUNITY SAFE AND TAKING CARE OF US. BECAUSE WHEN YOU PICK UP THAT PHONE AND DIAL 911, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ANSWER. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE SURE THAT THE HELP THAT YOU NEED IS DISPATCHED, WHETHER THAT'S POLICE, FIRE, EMS, OR SOME COMBINATION OF ALL THREE. THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB WITHIN THE CITY. THEY TAKE AN INORDINATE NUMBER OF CALLS, BOTH EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY, BECAUSE THEY ALL ROUTE TO THIS TEAM, AND THEY ANSWER THOSE CALLS WITH A LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM THAT IS SECOND TO NONE. THEY TRULY SET THE TABLE FOR THE CARE THAT OUR CITIZENS RECEIVE, AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO. AND I REMIND PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, THERE ARE NO WEEKENDS, THERE ARE NO NIGHTS, THERE ARE NO HOLIDAYS. THOSE EMERGENCIES DON'T WAIT. SO WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER. AND THAT MEANS TIME AWAY FROM FAMILY. THAT MEANS MISSING EVENTS. [00:05:03] THAT MEANS MISSING HOLIDAYS. AND SOMETIMES THAT MEANS SHIFTED SLEEP SCHEDULES. AND SO WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE SACRIFICES THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS MAKE AS WELL AS THEIR FAMILIES. SO I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME DETAILS, SO I DON'T WANT TO STEAL ALL OF YOUR THUNDER. BECAUSE NORMALLY WE SAY THE SAME THING. YEP. SO I AM ALWAYS TERRIBLE AT THIS, SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ MY PAPER. TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE FIRST VOICE YOU HEAR IN AN EMERGENCY. THE LINK BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND RESPONDERS IN THE FIELD, MANAGING RADIO TRAFFIC AND GATHERING CRITICAL INFORMATION. OUR TEAM IS MADE UP OF 11 DISPATCHERS, THREE SUPERVISORS, ONE CAD ANALYST, AND ONE MANAGER. OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE ANSWERED JUST OVER 76,000 PHONE CALLS WITH 20,794 BEING 911 CALLS WITH AN AVERAGE ANSWER TIME OF 2.54 SECONDS. FROM THE MOMENT A CALL IS RECEIVED, WE ARE GATHERING NECESSARY INFORMATION AND DISPATCHING UNITS IN AN AVERAGE OF 25 SECONDS. THESE NUMBERS REFLECT MORE THAN STATISTICS. THEY REPRESENT MOMENTS WHERE PROFESSIONALISM, COMPOSURE AND TEAMWORK MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT THAT ISN'T ALL WE DO AS A GROUP. WE COMPLETED OVER 950 HOURS OF TRAINING AND CONTINUED EDUCATION. HAD A SUPERVISOR DEPLOY TO KERRVILLE WITH THE TELECOMMUNICATOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TASK FORCE, AND TWO ADDITIONAL DISPATCHERS COMPLETED NECESSARY TRAINING TO DEPLOY IN THE FUTURE WHEN OTHER AGENCIES ARE IN NEED. SO THIS IS OUR WEEK TO CELEBRATE ALL OF US. NOW, THEY SHOULD KNOW BY THIS POINT, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THEM ARE NEWER. I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE IF YOU WILL JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT. ALWAYS STARTS ON THIS. HI, I'M CHRISTIANA. I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT FOUR YEARS. I'M PAIGE, I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS. I'M LAUREN, I'VE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS. TRISTAN. 17 YEARS. HI. I'M DANNY. I'VE BEEN HERE TWO YEARS. HI. I'M KIM. I'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS. AMANDA. I'VE BEEN HERE NINE YEARS. RACHEL. I'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT MONTHS. I'M FAUSTINE, I'VE BEEN HERE ONE YEAR, BUT I'VE NINE YEARS EXPERIENCE TOTAL. I'M BARBY, 16 YEARS. I'M ROBYN. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 15. BLAIR AND I HAVE EIGHT YEARS. OKAY, OKAY, I CAN BREATHE NOW. WELL, WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THE SEAL ADDED. YEAH, IT IT WENT MISSING. SO IF YOU'LL HELP ME HOLD UP, YOU STAND NEXT TO ME. YOU GET TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE CAMERA. WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE FIRST AND MOST CRITICAL CONTACT THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE WITH WILEY EMERGENCY SERVICES, DEMONSTRATING COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING AND PROFESSIONALISM DURING HIGH PRESSURE SITUATIONS. AND WHEREAS, WHEN AN EMERGENCY OCCURS, THE SKILL, QUICK ACTION AND EXPERTISE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE OFTEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH. WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE VITAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZEN AND THE PROMPT RESPONSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS CRITICAL TO THE PROTECTION OF LIFE AND PRESERVATION OF PROPERTY. AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS SPIRIT OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO THE WELL-BEING OF OTHERS IS ON DISPLAY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR. AND WHEREAS IN 2025, WILEY'S DISPATCHERS ANSWERED A TOTAL OF 76,000 CALLS, INCLUDING OVER 20,911 CALLS WITH AN AVERAGE ANSWER TIME OF 2.54 SECONDS. NOW, THEREFORE, I MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WILEY. ON THIS, THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL 2026, CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE 12TH DAY OF APRIL 2026 THROUGH THE 18TH DAY OF APRIL 2026, AS PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK IN THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN US IN HONORING THE WOMEN AND MEN WHOSE COMPASSION AND PROFESSIONALISM KEEP OUR CITY AND CITIZENS SAFE. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU ALL. DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO LINE UP HERE? I ALREADY GOT A GOOD ONE HERE. LET ME TRY A DIFFERENT ONE. COLIN. COLIN. COLIN. THERE YOU GO. SOUNDS GOOD. JUST MAKE SURE YOU. [00:10:02] KNOW. WHO'S DOING WHAT? 32 OF THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP THIS EVENING IS OUR CHILD ABUSE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH. [PR2. Child Abuse Awareness and Prevention Month, and honoring Officer Alexandra Waters and Officer Blake Miller.] SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THOSE WHO ARE HERE FOR THAT TO COME FORWARD. AND I'LL SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT OFFICER ALEXANDRA WATERS AND OFFICER BLAKE MILLER. SO WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SOME OF THESE RECOGNITIONS, PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE DO. THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE WOULD AGREE WITH ME. THEY THEY WISH IT WASN'T NEEDED. THEY WISH THAT THEY COULD FIND A DIFFERENT PLACE TO PLUG IN AND SERVE. BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE THESE ISSUES IN OUR SOCIETY, IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO CALL ATTENTION TO TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE SPEAK UP WHEN THEY NEED TO, AND TO ENSURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO TAKE ON THE TASK OF HELPING THOSE WHO NEED IT. AND SO IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DO. CHILD ABUSE. THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR. IT IS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS EVERY COMMUNITY. PEOPLE SOMETIMES THINK THAT IF YOU HIT A CERTAIN AREA, A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT SOMEHOW THAT CREATES SOME SORT OF SAFE BUBBLE THAT EXEMPTS ANYONE FROM THAT RISK OR FROM EXPERIENCING THAT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FIND EVERYWHERE. AND SO THE POINT OF THIS, AGAIN, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CALL OUT AWARENESS. MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE, CHILDREN CAN'T ALWAYS SPEAK UP FOR THEMSELVES. MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, IF YOU SEE A CONCERN THAT YOU REPORT THAT AND MAKE SURE IT GETS LOOKED INTO. ALSO TO THANK AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STEP UP AND VOLUNTEER TO HELP THOSE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED ABUSE, TO ENSURE THAT THEY GET THE CARE THAT THEY NEED, WHETHER THAT'S PHYSICAL, WHETHER THAT'S MENTAL, WHETHER THAT'S A NEW PLACEMENT. AND THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH US SPEND THEIR TIME AND ENERGY DEDICATED TO SUCH A DIFFICULT ENDEAVOR, BUT SUCH A NECESSARY ONE. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW YOU ALL TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO. SO I'LL START HERE WITH OUR PD, JEFF COWAN. I'M THE LIEUTENANT IN INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES. BEEN WITH WILEY 21 YEARS. ALEX WATERS, I'M ONE OF THE DETECTIVES THAT'S HOUSED OUT OF THE CSC IN PLANO, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THE PD FOR EIGHT YEARS. CHRIS MEEHAN I DO DIGITAL FORENSICS AND INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. I'VE BEEN WITH WILEY FIVE YEARS AND TOTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT 35 YEARS. HE'S KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW. I'M MICHEL LANIER, I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER IN COLLIN COUNTY, AND I'VE BEEN THERE 23 YEARS. I'M ELIZABETH MOSSMAN, I'M WITH LONE STAR, CASA, SERVING ROCKWALL AND KAUFMAN COUNTIES. I'VE BEEN THERE THREE YEARS, BUT IN CHILD WELFARE FOR OVER 20. HI, I'M RUBY CAMPO, I'M WITH THE CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER FOR ROCKWALL COUNTY. I JUST STARTED IN DECEMBER. IN MY ROLE, I'M THE OUTREACH AND VOLUNTEER PROGRAM MANAGER, AND WE WOULD LOVE VOLUNTEERS IN ANY OF OUR CAPACITIES TO HELP OUT. JUST CALL AND ASK. AND I DID WANT TO SHARE WE'RE INTERAGENCY, MULTIDISCIPLINARY PARTNERSHIP, DEDICATED, PROVIDING INTERVENTION, HOPE AND HEALING FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AFFECTED BY ABUSE, TRAUMA AND VIOLENCE, AND TO THE PREVENTION OF CHILD ABUSE THROUGH EDUCATION AND TRAINING. A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, I HAVE TWO TEAM MEMBERS THAT GO INTO THE SCHOOLS AND TEACH OUR CHILDREN. MY CHILD IS IN SECOND GRADE AND SHE GOT TAUGHT THIS YEAR IT'S SECOND, FIFTH, SEVENTH AND NINTH, I BELIEVE. AND IT'S JUST SO NEEDED AND SO SPECIAL THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO BE TOLD ABOUT INTERNET SAFETY AND SAFE ADULTS. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. WELL, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING THIS EVENING, BUT MORE SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY IN AND DAY OUT BASIS. [00:15:03] AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DEVELOPED WITH EACH OTHER THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES IS HAVING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. AND I KNOW WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO DEDICATE SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY. I KNOW OFFICER MILLER COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING, BUT OUR THANKS EXTENDS TO ALL OF THEM. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE WORK THAT IS DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS. I KNOW IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK UP WHAT WHAT WHAT CHRIS HAS BEEN DOING AMAZING. EVEN EVEN HAS RECEIVED RECOGNITION WORKING WITH THE FBI ON SOME, SOME MAJOR CASES WHICH HAS TRANSFORMED A LOT OF CHILDREN'S LIVES FROM THAT STANDPOINT. SO, AND I KNOW, I KNOW OFFICER WATERS AND OFFICER MILLER WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT ON CASES ASSISTING HERE IN COLLIN COUNTY SPECIFICALLY. SO IT'S JUST GREATLY APPRECIATED. I, I KNOW THAT IT'S TOUGH. SO WE JUST WANT TO TAKE TONIGHT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO DO THAT. SO, AND AGAIN, TO OUR PARTNERS, THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE TO WALK THROUGH WITH US. AND TO BE THERE WHEN THESE INDIVIDUALS FIND SOMEONE IN NEED OF PROTECTION TO BRING TO, TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE HEALING THAT COMES ON THE BACK END. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING. SO LET'S SEE. COLIN AND I HAVE ONE FOR VODKA. THERE YOU GO. IF YOU HOLD THAT UP, I DON'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED. SO WHEREAS CHILDREN ARE VITAL TO OUR CITY'S FUTURE SUCCESS, PROSPERITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE, AND DESERVE TO HAVE SAFE, STABLE, NURTURING HOMES AND COMMUNITIES THAT FOSTER THEIR HEALTHY GROWTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING. AND WHEREAS CHILD ABUSE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY, HAVING LONG TERM PSYCHOLOGICAL, EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL EFFECTS ON VICTIMS OF ABUSE. WHEREAS, IN 2025, MORE THAN 8000 CASES OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT WERE REPORTED IN COLLIN COUNTY, WITH COUNTLESS MORE IN SURROUNDING CITIES AND COUNTIES. AND WHEREAS EFFECTIVE CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION STRATEGIES SUCCEED BECAUSE OF THE DILIGENT WORK, TIRELESS ADVOCACY, AND PARTNERSHIPS CREATED AMONG FAMILIES, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, HOUSES OF FAITH, ADVOCACY GROUPS, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, SCHOOLS, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. AND WHEREAS PREVENTION REMAINS THE BEST DEFENSE AGAINST CHILD ABUSE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. NOW, THEREFORE, I AM MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE WYLIE CITY COUNCIL AND CITIZENS OF WYLIE. ON THIS, THE 14TH DAY OF APRIL 2026, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2026 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO BE AWARE THAT CHILD ABUSE REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND RECOGNIZING THE ROLE EACH OF US PLAYS AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE. THREE, TWO AND ONE AND TWO. ONE. ONE. THREE. TWO AND ONE. THREE. TWO. ONE. OKAY. NEXT THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE WYLIE ISD AND THE CITY OF WYLIE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT'S COOPERATIVE SENIOR TO [PR3. Recognize the Wylie ISD and City of Wylie Parks and Recreation Department's cooperative Senior2Senior program for receiving the Crystal Certification of Merit from the Texas School Public Relations Association (TSPRA).] SENIOR PROGRAM, WHO RECEIVED THE CRYSTAL CERTIFICATE OF MERIT FROM THE TEXAS SCHOOL PUBLIC RELATIONS ASSOCIATION. SO I CAN SEE YOU ALL HERE IN FRONT. SO I COULD START TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM. BUT THEN I THINK I WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM LETTING YOU ALL DISCUSS THAT BECAUSE WHEN I BECAME AWARE AND WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, I THOUGHT WHAT AN INNOVATIVE WAY TO ENGAGE A GENERATION THAT HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE TO PASS ON AND A [00:20:01] DESIRE TO DO SO. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, STOP IN THE SENIOR CENTER, WEALTH COMMUNITY PARK CENTER AND SIT DOWN AND TALK, AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU ALL SORTS OF LIFE LESSONS AND REACHING OUT AND PAIRING THAT WITH KIDS WHO NEED IT. SO I'LL LET YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. OKAY, SO I'M KATIE BURTON, I'M THE RECREATION SUPERVISOR OF COMMUNITY PARK CENTER AND THIS IS ANGELA DANIEL. SHE IS THE GUEST SERVICES OVER PROGRAMING AT COMMUNITY PARK CENTER. WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA ABOUT, WELL, IT'S BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING, BUT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE WANTED TO PAIR UP HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS WITH SENIOR ADULTS TO REALLY JUST PROMOTE RELATIONSHIP AND GROWTH AND KIND OF A MUTUAL MENTORSHIP. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE MENTORING THE OTHER, BUT THEY'RE BOTH BENEFITING FROM IT. AND I THINK WHAT THEY FOUND IS THEY HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON THAN THEY WOULD HAVE EVER KNOWN. AND THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS. WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO BE IN OUR SECOND YEAR. WE'RE ALMOST DONE WITH OUR SECOND YEAR AND WE'RE HOPING TO START A THIRD YEAR NEXT YEAR. WELL, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, TWO YEARS AGO, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT THING WAS LEGACY. AND SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT WAYS WE COULD COMBINE LIVING LEGACIES WITH FUTURE LEGACIES. AND SO EVERY TIME WE CAME UP WITH AN IDEA, THE CITY WAS LIKE, WE CAN DO THAT EVERY TIME THE CITY IDEA, WE SAID, OH, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION, WE CAN PROVIDE FOOD. THEY GOT SHIRTS. THE KIDS LOVED IT. THE SENIOR CITIZENS REALLY LOVED IT, AND WE EVEN MAKE IT AVAILABLE IF THEY WANT TO GO TO GRADUATION. WE PROVIDE GRADUATION TICKETS. MAKE SURE YOU TELL THEM THIS YEAR SO THEY CAN SEE THEIR SENIOR GRADUATE. BUT WE WERE REALLY EXCITED AND APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. ARE YOU PRESENTING YET? SO IT TURNS OUT IT TURNS OUT THE CITY ALSO WON AN AWARD. SO WHY DON'T YOU TELL ABOUT YOUR AWARD? SO WE WON THE TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE IN SENIOR PROGRAMS. SO WE WON THAT IN NOVEMBER. AND AND THEN WYLIE ISD. AND SO THROUGH OUR STATE PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION, WE WON A CRYSTAL COMMENDATION FOR CITY FOR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS. AND SO WE ENTERED BOTH THESE. AND IT TURNS OUT BOTH OF US WON. SO THAT TELLS YOU EVEN OUR PEERS REALIZED HOW STRONG THIS PROGRAM WAS. WELL, AGAIN, I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE WAY THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PARTNER TOGETHER THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT WE BRING OUT THE BEST IN EACH OTHER. AND IT WAS JUST AN AMAZING PROGRAM. AND OBVIOUSLY IT HAS EARNED AWARDS FROM BOTH SIDES. SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF THE TIME AND FOR COMING UP WITH THIS PROGRAM AND MAKING IT WORK. THANK YOU ALL. ARE YOU READY? TO ROCK. [PR4. Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month.] AND THIS EVENING, WE ARE ALSO RECOGNIZING SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH, SO. HE'S PERFECTLY FINE. MY LITTLE ONE TALKS EVEN MORE WHEN WE GO TO EVENTS. SO AGAIN, IN THE VEIN OF A PRIOR PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WISH WE DID NOT HAVE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO, AND THAT WE WERE NOT HAVING TO DEDICATE TIME TO BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. BUT IT IS A WORLD WHERE THESE THINGS HAPPEN, AND THEREFORE, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CALL ATTENTION, TO ENSURE THAT AS MANY PEOPLE AS NEED BE, GET THE ASSISTANCE AND HELP THAT THEY NEED, AND THEN TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THOSE WHO TAKE ON THAT TASK OF ASSISTING THOSE WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS POSITION. AS STATED, SEXUAL ASSAULT HAPPENS TO MEN AND WOMEN, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS OKAY IN ANY SITUATION. AND THEN AFTER. THEY NEED HELP. AND IT IS GREAT THAT WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS. WE HAVE OUR PD WHO HAS OUR CRIMES VICTIM ADVOCATE, WHO CAN REACH OUT AND WORK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND BE THAT INITIAL POINT OF CONTACT FOR THEM. AND THEN WE HAVE GREAT AGENCIES WHO WE CAN REFER THEM ACROSS TO AND WHO HELP THEM GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AND GET THAT MENTAL, PHYSICAL HELP THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIFE. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME IS SPENT BEING AWARE OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO OFFENDS A LOT OF ATTENTION IS IS PAID, [00:25:03] AND RIGHTLY SO, TO MAKING SURE THAT THE GUILTY ARE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. BUT IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT THE VICTIM IN THOSE CASES IS TAKEN CARE OF. AND AGAIN, PREVENTION IS ALWAYS THE BEST THAT YOU THAT CAN BE DONE. AND SO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED, MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE. MAKING SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY, AND SPEAKING OUT AGAINST ATTITUDES AND ACTIONS THAT MAY TRIVIALIZE SITUATIONS ARE IMPORTANT. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS AN EVENING TO CALL AWARENESS, TO ENCOURAGE PREVENTION, AND TO THANK THOSE WHO TAKE ON THE TASK OF HELPING THOSE THAT BECOME VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION OR WHAT YOU DO HERE WITH THE CITY. EXCELLENT. SO MY NAME IS AMY LAWRENCE. I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS AT THE TURNING POINT RAPE CRISIS CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY. SO WE'RE BASED IN PLANO. WE SERVE ALL OF COLLIN COUNTY AS WELL AS SOME OF DALLAS COUNTY. WE PROVIDE FREE TRAUMA COUNSELING FOR SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, SEXUAL ABUSE, SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN GENERAL. WE PROVIDE FORENSIC EXAMS FOR OUR RAPE KITS, AS THEY'RE SOMETIMES KNOWN AT 28 DIFFERENT HOSPITALS AND STUDENT CENTERS, AS WELL AS OUR OWN FORENSIC CLINIC IN PLANO. AND IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A ROBUST OUTREACH EDUCATION AND PREVENTION PROGRAM BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME, IF SOMEBODY IS EXPERIENCED THIS TYPE OF VIOLENCE, THEY DON'T CALL OUR 24 OVER SEVEN HOTLINE. THEY GO TO A FRIEND OR A FAMILY MEMBER OR SOMEONE IN THEIR FAITH COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'RE HERE AS A RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HELP YOU FEEL EQUIPPED ON HOW YOU CAN RESPOND IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES HEALING IN A WAY THAT HELPS CHANGE THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT A SAFE PLACE FOR EVERYONE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION OUT ON THE TABLE. AT WE'RE ALSO AVAILABLE WITH VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THE NUMBER ONE THING IS JUST TO KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR RESOURCES ARE FREE, AND WE'RE HERE FOR SURVIVORS IN THE COMMUNITY. I'M JUST, I'M JUST I'M KEISHA VOSS, THE VICTIM'S ADVOCATE AT WILEY PD. THAT WAS A LITTLE QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT, BUT I'M JEFF CALLEN. I'M THE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES LIEUTENANT. I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SAY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW KEISHA, AND SHE WON'T BRAG ON HERSELF. BUT THESE LADIES RIGHT HERE TO MY RIGHT, THEY'RE ROCK STARS. AND THEY DO AMAZING WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND IT'S VERY APPRECIATED. YES, IT DEFINITELY IS. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I KNOW IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB, BUT THE FRUITS AND THE REWARDS FROM IT THAT YOU BRING OUT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES HOPEFULLY MAKES IT ALL WORTH IT FOR YOU ALL. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. SO I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. WHEREAS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH IS INTENDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD, DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE, AND POTENTIALLY IMPACTS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS IN TEXAS, 2 IN 5 WOMEN AND 1 IN 5 MEN HAVE EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ASSAULT. AND WHEREAS WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT SEXUAL VIOLENCE PREVENTION, SUPPORTING SURVIVORS, AND SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HARMFUL ATTITUDES AND ACTIONS. AND WHEREAS WITH STRONG PARTNERSHIPS, DEDICATION, AND FOCUS, WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN WORKING TO PREVENT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN WYLIE AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES BY INCREASING EDUCATION, AWARENESS AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. AND WHEREAS, THE TURNING POINT RAPE CRISIS CENTER OF COLLIN COUNTY PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF WYLIE AND OUR CRIME VICTIMS ADVOCATE PROGRAM TO PROVIDE COUNSELING, EDUCATION AND ADVOCACY FOR THOSE IMPACTED BY SEXUAL VIOLENCE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AND OUR CITY COUNCIL ON THIS, THE 11TH DAY OF APRIL 2026, PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF APRIL 2026 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH IN WYLIE, TEXAS, AND ENCOURAGE ALL WYLIE CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN EFFORTS TO PREVENT SEXUAL VIOLENCE THROUGH AWARENESS, CONVERSATIONS, APPROPRIATE ACTION, AND TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS CREATING A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL. THANK YOU ALL. [00:30:38] SO THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA OR OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS AND MOVES US TO COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE ASK THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COMPLETE A FORM PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. COUNCIL REQUESTS COMMENTS BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR SIX IF OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP. WE DO REMIND EVERYONE THAT COUNCIL IS NOT ALLOWED TO CONVERSE, DELIBERATE DEBATE, OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY ITEMS PRESENTED DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. BECAUSE WE FOLLOW THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. MR. WERE THERE ANY FORMS TURNED IN THIS EVENING? NO. MAYOR. OKAY. WITH NO FORMS TURNED IN TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] COUNCIL AND STAFF. DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL QUESTION, COMMENT OR CONSIDERATION? AND IF NOT I AM OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN. STRING. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING. [1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2003-01 (PD 2003-01) to Planned Development (PD) on approximately 31.65 acres. Property is generally located on the southwest corner of FM 544 and Woodbridge Parkway (ZC 2026-02).] ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 2000 AND 3-01 PD 2000 AND 3-01 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD ON APPROXIMATELY 31.65 ACRES. PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF FM 544 AND WOODBRIDGE PARKWAY. ZONING CASE 2026-02. MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THIS IS A CITY STAFF INITIATED ZONING CASE. WHAT WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IS UPDATING THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS. THIS PARTICULAR PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED BACK IN JANUARY OF 2003. SO 23 YEARS AGO. AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, AS YOU KNOW, THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEN SPECIFICALLY TO, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THE, THE, THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF WYLIE. WE'VE ADDED SUCH THINGS AS, YOU KNOW, SOUPS FOR CAR WASHES, DRIVE THRUS, SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. THIS PD AS IT SITS CURRENTLY ALLOWS A LOT OF THAT BY. RIGHT. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE SECTIONS OF THIS PD THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN PEELED OFF IN THE PROCESS OVER THE LAST 23 YEARS, FOR EXAMPLE, UP ON THE EXHIBIT, YOU SEE TRACKED A THREE AND A FOUR ON THE LOWER LEFT CORNER. THAT'S TOWNHOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. THOSE THAT WAS SUBJECT TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PD. AND THE AREA. LET'S SEE, I'LL SHOW YOU. YOU CAN SEE THE CENTER HERE. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, AMEND, BUT THE CENTER PD 2018. 12. THAT'S WHERE THE SELF STORAGE IS NEXT TO BEING IN BETWEEN B AND B AND KROGER. THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS AMENDMENT ACCOMPLISHES TWO THINGS. ONE, IT GETS IT EXCLUDES SOME THINGS OUT OF THE PD THAT ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT. AND THEN IT IT UPDATES THIS PD TO ABIDE BY THE CURRENT STANDARDS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO I GUESS I'LL START. I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT JUST FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE LISTENING, THIS DOES NOT PUT ANY EXISTING BUSINESS OUT OF BUSINESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. OKAY. SO JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS LISTENING OR I KNOW WE'VE DONE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT IF IT WERE TO BE PICKED UP ONLINE, THIS DOESN'T PUT ANYONE OUT OF BUSINESS. IT DOESN'T CLOSE ANY EXISTING BUSINESS. THIS JUST IS SET SO THAT IF ANY REDEVELOPMENT NEW BUSINESSES COME IN, IT ABIDES BY THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT THAT OUT THERE. [00:35:01] I UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SEEING ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS, SO WHY DON'T I GO AHEAD AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK, AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME OUT OR IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT, MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. OKAY, MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT BACK UP TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. MAYOR PRO TEM, I BELIEVE I SAW YOUR LIGHT RIGHT? AS I WAS SAYING, PUBLIC HEARING. SO APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE THERE. I'LL TURN IT TO YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR IS THE PD FOR THE WHOLE TRACK, INCLUDING THE PD 2018-12? NO, SIR. THAT WOULD BE EXCLUDED. THIS NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY EXCLUDES THAT BECAUSE IT'S UNDER ITS OWN SET OF RULES. WHAT'S THAT? THE RULES THAT WERE AT 20. SO WITHIN THE LAST TEN YEARS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE IS WE'VE AMENDED PD WHERE INSTEAD OF TYING THEM TO A PARTICULAR ORDINANCE, IT'LL SAY THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THAT PARTICULAR TIME. AND THEN AS AMENDED, THAT PARTICULAR TRACT ALREADY IS UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE NEW ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THIS WILL BRING UP THE REST OF IT TO THAT ZONING ORDINANCE BASICALLY. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT TRACK. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL OR STAFF? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. MAYOR PRO TEM MAYOR. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN PICKENS A SECOND. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO THIS EVENING, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-15 TO ABANDON RIGHT OF [2. Consider, and act upon, Ordinance No. 2026-15 to abandon Right-of-Way being Lot 1, Block C of the Mill Creek Estates Addition.] WAY BEING LOT ONE, BLOCK C OF THE MILL CREEK ESTATES ADDITION, MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THE THE OWNER OF 1201 EAST STONE ROAD IS ASKING COUNCIL TO ABANDON THE PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY AND IN BETWEEN, IN BETWEEN THEIR PROPERTY AND W A ALLEN YOU CAN SEE MY HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL DRAWING HERE OUTLINING THE ROUGHLY OUTLINING THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN ABANDONMENT IN RED. THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COMBINE THAT PROPERTY WITH THEIR EXISTING PROPERTY, AND THEN SUBDIVIDE THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE INTO TWO LOTS. IN ORDER TO ADD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ONTO THE, TO THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE LEFT SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. THAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. IT IS PART OF THE PD THAT IS TO THE NORTH. THE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE FOXWOOD ADDITION. SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE ALLOWED. THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT THAT PROPERTY. THERE IS ALMOST TWO ACRES WITH THE ADDITION WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT TWO ONE ACRE LOTS IS WHAT THEY ULTIMATELY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THERE. CITY STAFF HAS ALL LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, EASEMENTS, WIDENING OF W ALLEN, ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS ENGINEERING, FIRE PLANNING AND THE UTILITY, THE THE MAJOR UTILITIES IN THAT AREA. AND EVERYBODY SIGNED OFF ON IT FEELING THAT ABANDONING THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE CITY. THE APPLICANT HAS GOT AN APPRAISAL THAT WAS IN THE PACKET, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED $10,000 FOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE ARE IN POSSESSION OF A CASHIER'S CHECK. SHOULD THE THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THAT AS REQUIRED. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THESE DON'T COME UP VERY OFTEN BUT COUNCIL CAN EITHER ACCEPT THAT AMOUNT INCREASE THAT AMOUNT, DECREASE THE AMOUNT OR REJECT THE REQUEST ALL THE WAY AROUND. THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY, SO I THINK YOU ANSWERED PROBABLY MY MAIN ONE. AND THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY I BELIEVE THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN POTENTIALLY CALLS FOR WALB4 LANES IN THE FUTURE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. THIS WOULD NOT IMPEDE THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ABANDON IT, AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO BUY IT BACK FROM THEM, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SHIFT WHERE THEY WANT TO PUT A HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT WAS THAT WAS MY MAIN QUESTION. I JUST I WOULDN'T WANT TO END UP HERE, HERE IF IT WERE AGREED TO. [00:40:05] THEN WE TURN AROUND AND IT MIGHT BE TEN YEARS. NONE OF US ARE HERE. COULD EVEN BE A DIFFERENT OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE GETTING SOMETHING. HEY, BY THE WAY, WE NEED TO PUT TAKE SOME OF YOUR LAND BACK. YES, SIR. I'D RATHER MAKE SURE WE DO IT UP FRONT, BUT. YES, SIR. IF WE'RE SATISFIED THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, THAT WOULD BE THAT WAS MY ONLY MAJOR QUESTION THERE. I WANT TO OPEN IT UP. COUNCIL DO WE HAVE OTHER OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. ASKINS, WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND I ZOOM OUT FROM YOUR DRAWING, ARE YOU ABLE TO ZOOM OUT ON THE COMPUTER? I DID A SCREENSHOT. I CAN TRY TO GET TO GOOGLE MAPS ALONG THE LINES OF, OF INCLINATION THAT MAYOR'S HAD JUST A CONCERN FOR FUTURE. WITH THAT CURVE IN THE ROAD AND THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD ON SWA ALLEN ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF STONE VERSUS THE WIDTH ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND KNOWING THAT RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS THAT LAND SHOULD SOMETHING BE NEEDED TO HAPPEN AT THAT INTERSECTION. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT'S POSSIBLY WHY IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEEDED TO THE CITY AT THE TIME OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT DO WE KNOW THE HISTORY ON IT? MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, FROM THE RESEARCH I DID WITH THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS JUST A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS LEFT OVER FROM THE ORIGINAL WIDENING. AND THAT'S WHY IT, THE CITY OWNS THAT BECAUSE THE CITY OWNED THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BEGIN WITH. AND WHERE IT ULTIMATELY ENDED UP, THE ENGINEERING SHOWED WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE ACTUAL THE ACTUAL ROAD ITSELF WAS BUILT. THAT PIECE WAS LEFT OVER. WE'VE HAD OTHER PIECES LIKE THAT, THE VALVOLINE ON SPRING ON 544 BETWEEN FREDDY'S THERE'S, THERE'S A TRIANGLE PIECE THERE THAT WAS ALSO LEFT OVER THAT THE CITY OWNS. IT HAPPENS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE FROM WHEN THE, WHAT THE, THE PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AND THEN WHAT ULTIMATELY GETS BUILT. SURE, SURE. THAT'S MY CONCERN AS FAR AS ME JUST SPEAKING IT OUT LOUD IS JUST THE FUTURE. I'D HAVE TO ASK MR. WEIR TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF YOU NEED, LIKE, A SPECIFIC ANSWER. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW. I DO KNOW THAT THEY AS FAR AS THE WHICH YOU'RE ASKING, IF I'M ASKING WHICH QUESTION, BECAUSE THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS THE SAME ONE THE MAYOR PROPOSED IS JUST THAT YOU'RE CONFIDENT. YES, I AM CONFIDENT. YES, I AM CONFIDENT. STAFF IS CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL NOT NEED THIS RIGHT AWAY IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO MAKE W A ALLEN DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO IT. OKAY. AND THERE'S NOT A, A BENEFIT BEING LOST TO THE CITIZENS BY, BY SELLING IT EITHER. NO SIR. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT STATEMENT IS TRUE. AND SAME WITH THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. AS FAR AS THE WIDENING OF STONE THAT STAYS THE SAME. SO THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PICKENS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING ABANDONED AND GIVEN TO THE OWNER ASSUME YOUR RED LINE. YOU SAY THAT'S THAT'S YOUR DRAWING. IT'S AN ESTIMATE, RIGHT? YEAH. YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE LINE IS ACTUALLY BEHIND IT. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IT FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE. OKAY. THAT PROPERTY, THE BLUE LINE, IS A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE. OKAY. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND IN THE WIDENING OF THAT ROAD TO FOUR LANES WHERE THE BOUNDARY OF THAT FOUR LANE ROAD IS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT W A ALLEN? YES, SIR. W ALLEN I'M SORRY IF I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE WIDENED TO FOUR LANES. IT'S PRETTY MUCH IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT'S AT. YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD BASED ON WHEN I'VE DRIVEN DOWN THAT ROAD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT COULD BE WIDENED TO FOUR LANES. YEAH. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THAT WAS WHERE MY CONFUSION WAS. YEAH. SO I MISSPOKE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. SO IS THE PLANNING THAT IT JUST REMAINS THE WAY IT IS AS FAR AS FOR TRAFFIC FLOW. YES. BECAUSE IT'S ON THE, IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE OTHER THE GOOGLE MAPS. SURE. BECAUSE IT, IT'S NARROWED DOWN THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF STONE IN ALLEN. AND IF YOU ZOOM BACK OUT, IT IT, I MEAN, GO NORTH. IT GOES BACK TO FOUR LANES. SO THERE'S A IT'S KIND OF A CHOKE POINT, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO LET ME CLARIFY W A ALLEN IS NOT A FOUR LANE ROAD. I KNOW. YEAH I'M AWARE. YEAH. I'VE DRIVEN DOWN. SO SO THERE'S NO IT'S JUST A TWO LANE ROAD. THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD IS JUST ABOUT WIDE ENOUGH FOR A FOUR LANE ROAD. THE INTERSECTION IN QUESTION IS BASICALLY FOUR LANES AND ALL IN ALL FOUR SIDES AS IT SITS TODAY. [00:45:07] SO THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL LAND THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO WIDEN THAT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THAT LITTLE SECTION OF THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS IN REQUESTED TO BE ABANDONED, WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IF W A ALLEN WAS TO BE WIDENED TO FOUR LANES, BECAUSE IT IS PRETTY MUCH AT FOUR LANES TODAY. THERE USED TO BE STRIPING ACTUALLY RIGHT THERE BY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. BUT SINCE W A ALLEN IS NOT STRAPPED ALL THE WAY DOWN RIGHT. I ASKED TO HAVE THAT REMOVED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. I'M SORRY. PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME DRIVING AND GUESSING. IS IT A FOUR LANE ROAD OR A TWO LANE ROAD? YEAH, WE JUST REMOVED IT ALL. AND THAT'S THE WAY I FELT WHEN I DROVE DOWN THROUGH THERE WAS THAT IT'S IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT VIABLE FOR TWO LANES GOING OR TWO CARS GOING ON ONE SIDE. YEAH. SO IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THERE IS NO PLANS TO MAKE THAT LITTLE SECTION THERE A FOUR LANE. THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. AND SO MR. PARKER, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS NO STRIPING ON THAT ROAD, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND IS THERE ANY PLANS TO STRIPE THAT ROAD IN ANY WAY? I THAT I CAN'T ANSWER. I MEAN, WE MAY PUT A CENTER LINE DOWN IT, BUT IT WON'T BE DIVIDED LANES. NO. OKAY. YES. OKAY. AND STONE ROAD IS NOT EXPECTED TO WIDEN PAST TWO LANES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SITUATION IS. THANK YOU. SORRY, MAYOR. THE RIGHT OF WAY IS THERE FOR FOUR LANES, BUT IT'S NOT A FOUR LANE ROAD. I'M SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE OKAY. AND I PULLED UP THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN JUST BECAUSE I COULDN'T REMEMBER EITHER. AND IT'S NOT TO CITY MANAGER'S POINT. IT'S NOT SLATED TO MOVE TO FOUR. BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THAT WAS NEEDED, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND ACQUIRE PROPERTY. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO NOW THAT I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT THIS W A ALLEN WON'T BE FOR FOUR LANE ROAD CURRENTLY OR IS ON ANY PLANS FROM THOROUGHFARE, EVEN THOUGH I THINK WITH SOME OF THE AREA RIGHT OF WAYS THAT WE HAD TO ACQUIRE TO DO SOME THINGS AROUND THERE AND HOW MUCH WE HAD TO COVER. I DO FEEL LIKE THE $10,000 IS NOT ENOUGH. AND HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH IT. THIS IS ONE FOURTH OF THE ACRE. IF HE ACQUIRES THIS, THIS IS CLOSE TO 11,000 SQUARE FOOT BASED ON SOME OF THE 10,000 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET. 11. ON WHAT IT IS AN ACRE IN THAT AREA, GIVE OR TAKE. AND I GET IT'S VERY HARD TO GET A APPRAISAL. THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT JUST BECAUSE THERE IS NOT THAT BIG OF A LOT IN THERE. MOSTLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SMALLER LOTS. THERE ARE HOUSES IN THERE WHICH ARE 25,000FT², GIVE OR TAKE AN ACRE IN THAT AREA, APPROXIMATELY BY MY COUNT, IS SOMEWHERE IN AROUND 150 TO $200,000. AND IF YOU DIVIDE THAT BY FOUR, YOU'RE ENDING UP 25,000. NOW, I AM VERY WELL AWARE THAT THIS IS A A SMALL AREA CORNER SPOT, BUT BY ATTACHING THE VALUE TO THE CURRENT LAND. IF YOU DIVIDE IT TO TWO LOTS, YOU ADD THE VALUE TO YOUR LOT. SO I DO FEEL A LOT MORE APPROPRIATE. IT'S A HIGHER AMOUNT OF VALUE THAN THAT'S WHAT IT IS TODAY. OKAY. THOSE WERE MY TWO CONCERNS, THE PRICE AND THE WIDENING PART OF IT. OKAY. I, I WILL SAY I'M NOT AN APPRAISER, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT AS THIS LOT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS AFFECTS THE VALUE OR NOT, BUT THAT IS AN UNBUILDABLE LOT AS IT STANDS. AND I AND THAT MAY BE WHY THEY'RE OFFERING WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING. AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT TO US, FAIR ENOUGH, THAT LOT IS NOT COSTING US ANYTHING RIGHT NOW AND POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED IN THE FUTURE. DOWN THE LINE, AS WILEY AND CITY OF WILEY HAS GROWN, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE GROWN EVERY DAY. WHO KNOWS? DOWN THE LINE, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE THAT CORNER. IF STONE ROAD GOES TO FOUR LANES AND I KNOW IT'S NOT SLOTTED RIGHT NOW, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD A CORNER THERE TO, TO, TO GO THROUGH TRAFFIC OR WHATNOT. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING FROM OUR STANDPOINT. OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN HOOVER. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN A LEFT TURN LANE FOR THE SOUTHBOUND W A? ALLEN HEADING TOWARDS STONE. I KNOW THE THE TRAFFIC ON STONE IS EXPANDING EXPONENTIALLY RIGHT NOW. [00:50:09] THERE'S ONE THERE TODAY. IF YOU'RE GOING SOUTH ON W A ALLEN, THERE'S A LEFT TURN LANE AND A STRAIGHT LINE RIGHT HERE. IT'S IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY STRIPED. THERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE AND A WELL, I THINK BOTH OF THEM. YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT FROM, CAN'T YOU? YEAH. YES. BUT IT'S A TIRING LINE ALSO. OKAY. ARE YOU MEANING A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE? THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPAND THAT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING ON? STONE? BECAUSE STONE IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. WELL, THE LAST TRAFFIC STUDY WE DID, STONE WAS NEVER SLATED TO BE ABOVE A TWO LANE ROAD. OKAY. SO I WOULD WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO WE'D HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE IF IT'D BE WARRANTED OR NOT. ALL RIGHT. JUST A QUESTION. OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR SAY. I JUST GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WISH TO SPEAK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE WANT TO KIND OF. READ COMPTON, 1201 EAST STONE ROAD. AND IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE THREE ACRES. SO WE'RE WANTING TO LEAVE TWO ACRES WITH THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW AND THEN HAVE AN ACRE FOR THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO CONSTRUCT ANYTHING REALLY ON THAT PIECE, BUT I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BEAUTIFY IT AND TAKE DOWN THE UGLY FENCING AND PUT SOME NICE FENCING ON THAT SIDE. SO EVEN WHEN WE BUILD A STRUCTURE, IT'S NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY BE ON THAT PIECE. WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT A NICE FENCE UP AND LANDSCAPE IT AND MAKE THE WHOLE PROPERTY LOOK A LITTLE BETTER. OKAY. AND THERE IS, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A TURN, THERE'S TWO LANES COMING SOUTH AND THEN ONE, BUT IT'S A REALLY WIDE ONE. AND THERE'S THREE LANES ON THE EAST SIDE OF STONE, TWO HEADED WEST AND THEN ONE HEADED EAST. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK SO. JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. I DO I DO WANT TO ASK BECAUSE WE'RE I APOLOGIZE ASK MR. HASKINS. YES, SIR. I AM ASSUMING OR MAYBE IT'S MR. PARKER THAT WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE, MOWING, CUTTING, ETC. ON THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, WE OWN IT. JUST VERIFYING. WE DON'T LEAVE. WE DON'T LEAVE IT. WHAT IS THAT? SOME OF THE PRAIRIE LAND OR THINGS THAT'S KIND OF UNTOUCHED, I WOULD ASSUME, TO KEEP UP WITH. UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE RESIDENT THAT LIVES THERE, WE JUST RECENTLY WENT DOWN THERE AND CHOPPED ALL THOSE TREES DOWN SO HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A BARRIER ANYMORE. SO OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT THAT THERE IS, I GUESS, POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A CARRYING COST FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE PROPERTY, SINCE I BELIEVE WE CONTRACT A LOT OF THAT OUT. YES, SIR. SO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT. I WAS JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE ON IT AND WHAT IT IS, HAS BEEN OVER THE LONG TERM LIFE AND WHAT IT WILL BE FOR THE FUTURE OF ITS LIFE. AND FOR THOSE WHO, WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, I, I GO BY THERE REGULARLY AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU DO, BUT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THERE IS QUITE A GRADE THERE. AS FAR AS IF CONSIDERING IF WE COULD EVER USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH WE COULD USE IT FOR WITH THAT GRADE JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT, IT DROPS SIGNIFICANTLY THERE ON THE CORNER. SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT FROM AN OVERHEAD AERIAL SHOT, BUT JUST WANTED TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW. A POCKET PARK ISN'T GOING TO WORK. I GUESS YOU COULD HAVE A REALLY NICE SLIDE. BUT OTHERWISE IT'S IT'S IT HAS QUITE A DROP OVER THERE. SO YEAH. YEAH. NEXT TO NEXT TO A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION. I WOULDN'T SUGGEST IT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT, THAT, THAT PROBABLY CONTRIBUTES A LITTLE BIT TO THE APPRAISAL. IN ADDITION TO IT BEING A REMNANT IS THE TOPOGRAPHY OF IT AS WELL. SO, WELL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THIS ITEM IN FRONT OF US. THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS. [00:55:05] I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. MAYOR, I WANT TO ASK ONE MORE QUESTION PRIOR TO MOTION, AND THAT IS I NOTICED THAT IT IS SECTIONED OFF AS A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY. THAT MEANS THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY ASSESSOR'S ASSESSMENT ON IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TAXED. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ASSESSMENT IS? IT'LL BE WHATEVER. IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL. RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TAX ON IT BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS IT. RIGHT. BUT THE WHEN WHEN IF IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS RIGHT AWAY ABANDONMENT, THEN IT'LL BE WHATEVER A RESIDENTIAL TAX APPRAISAL. I WAS ASSUMING THAT THEY PRAISED IT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY. I ASSUME THEY STILL SET A VALUE ON IT TO KNOW WHAT WHAT VALUE THEY DO NOT HAS. NO, SIR. THAT'S ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR. OKAY. NEVER MIND. I'LL LET. I'LL WITHDRAW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. STRING. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN HOOVER, I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM AGAINST. WITH THAT. THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING AND MOVES US INTO OUR WORK SESSION. THAT'S ALL YOU NEEDED, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I'M NEXT. I'M NEXT AGAIN. SO YOU'RE HERE ALL EVENING? JUST MAKING SURE. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR WORK SESSIONS. WORK SESSION ONE IS TO DISCUSS SECTION 5.1, LAND USE CHARTS AND RELATED AMENDMENTS OF THE CITY OF WYLIE ZONING ORDINANCE. [WS1. Discuss Section 5.1, Land Use Charts, and related amendments of the City of Wylie Zoning Ordinance.] MR. HASKINS, THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THE CITY STAFF ALSO, YOU KNOW, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU KNOW, WE DO UPDATES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO KIND OF BRING IT UP TO DATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH EITHER STATE LAW OR, YOU KNOW, JUST TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGES OR USE CHANGES AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND WE RECENTLY WENT TO PNC WITH A WORK SESSION WITH JUST A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. AND WE WANT TO GET COUNCIL'S INPUT, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE WE SPEND THE MONEY ON A PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING ACTUAL CHANGES, YOU KNOW, A PRESENTATION FOR, FOR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO COUNCIL. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE BIG ONE IN MY MIND IS MAKING DRIVE. ANYTHING THAT HAS A DRIVE THROUGH ATTACHED WOULD BE AN SUP GOING FORWARD. MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE BANKS OR RESTAURANTS. WE ALREADY HAVE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS AS AN SUP. AND AS PART OF THAT, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GET RID OF THE USES THAT SAY, DRIVE THROUGH IN THEM AND JUST MAKE DRIVE THROUGH A SEPARATE CONDITION OR PROVISION. VERY SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE HAVE EITHER ALCOHOL USE OR ALCOHOL SALES OR SMOKE SHOP TYPE SALES. THOSE ARE JUST SEPARATE PROVISIONS. ANYBODY CAN DO IT. BUT IF YOU DO IT THEN YOU NEED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO THAT'D BE ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OTHER MINOR CHANGES LIKE GETTING RID OF. WE HAVE MINING AS A USE STILL IN WILEY. BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 2003. THIS VERSION OF IT. WE HAVE LAND FILL AS A USE. SO THOSE USES WOULD STILL BE POSSIBLE IF SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, FOUND A SPOT THAT WHERE THEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. WE CAN DO A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON, ON ANY TYPE OF USE. THEY JUST HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR IT. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT THING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST IS EVENT CENTERS. WE HAVE A BIG CALL FOR THOSE. WHEN I SAY BIG CALL, WE PROBABLY THE STAFF, WE PROBABLY HAVE 2 OR 3 TIMES A YEAR. SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO AN EVENT CENTER IN WILEY. WE HAD A COUPLE THAT GOT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN OR THE SUP PROCESS WHICH THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT WASN'T A ALLOWED USE BY. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT BECAUSE WE GET A CALL FOR IT, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND JUST ADD THAT AS AN ALLOWED USE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN YOUR CHART. LET ME SEE. SORRY, IT'S ON 67. THANK YOU SIR. NUMBER 12. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN CR AND CC. AND THEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN DOWNTOWN. BUT THAT IS WITH SOME EXTRA PROVISIONS INVOLVED THERE. MAINLY IT WOULD BE SIZE, YOU KNOW WE'D BE LOOKING AT THAT WE ARE NOT EXPECTING SOMEBODY TO DO YOU KNOW, A 50,000 SQUARE FOOT TYPE EVENT CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THERE, IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS PERMITTED VERSUS SPECIAL USE IN THOSE TWO AREAS? [01:00:04] WELL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS WE'RE THINKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE LIKE LARGER TYPE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A WEDDING VENUE, YOU KNOW, OR WHERE YOU'RE TALKING A COUPLE. I DON'T WANNA SAY 100 PEOPLE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AROUND YOU. SO WE DIDN'T THINK THAT. WE FIGURED A SITE PLAN WOULD BE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, OF AN OVERSIGHT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT USE WAS GOOD DOWNTOWN. THE LOGISTICS OF DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO LIMIT THAT AUTOMATICALLY IS WHAT WE WERE THINKING. THERE'S STILL PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION. SO IT'LL STILL COME TO CITY COUNCIL ANYWAY, THAT SORT OF THING. IF THEY'RE DOING IF THEY'RE DOING A NEWER BUILDING, IF THEY'RE DOING A USE IN AN EXISTING DOWNTOWN BUILDING DOWNTOWN, IT'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVELY SMALL THING. IT'S JUST A USE THAT WOULD BE A LOT. YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE 20, 30 PEOPLE TOPS AT ANY ONE OF THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS. AND THEN WE WANTED TO KIND OF CONTROL FOR IT IN THE KRRC BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC INTERACTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A BIG EVENT CENTER, YOU KNOW, ON SAY ON 544 OR 78, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IN A PUBLIC HEARING SETTING. SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BETWEEN THE ONES WE'RE PROPOSING. AND THAT WAS THE REASON THAT I BROUGHT UP THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THERE'S ACTUALLY ONE IN USE, AND THE STREET ESCAPES ME IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT OVER THERE, KIND OF BEHIND FREDDY'S AND THOSE. AND I WAS INVITED AND ATTENDED AN EVENT WITH IT BEING THE EVENING ON A WEEKEND, IT WASN'T A PROBLEM, BUT THE PARKING OVERFLOW WAS NOT SUFFICIENT. EVERYONE WAS PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. IT WOULD HAVE IF YOU HAD ANY SORT OF LARGE VEHICLE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. I SO MAYBE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO OPERATE THAT THERE, BUT I THINK I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THEY MIGHT BE OPERATING. AND WE'VE, WE'RE AWARE OF THAT ONE. IF IT'S THE SAME ONE, I'M ASSUMING IT MAY BE. AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T WORK PERMITS. I JUST I JUST NOTICED THAT ATTENDING THAT EVENT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD GET INTO THE SPACE AND THE NUMBER OF CARS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE. I DON'T THINK THAT ONE HAS HAD OFFICIAL. OKAY NOW PLANS AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO GET ANYBODY IN TROUBLE. OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES. BUT NOW CONCORDANT WITH THIS, IS THERE A PARKING STANDARD THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED FOR THE EVENT CENTER OR IS THAT SOMETHING? YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CHART. 1 TO 100FT² IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WHICH IS QUITE A BIT, AS YOU SAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COMPARES WITH I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. A CHURCH NORMALLY, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN THEY'RE OCCUPIED, YOU END UP WITH OVERFLOW ISSUES QUITE A BIT. OUR IS OUR, THE CITY REGULATION IS 1 TO 200. SO THIS IS EVEN MORE STRINGENT THAN THAT ONLY BECAUSE IN AN EVENT CENTER YOU'VE GOT STANDING ROOM ONLY. YOU KNOW, KIND OF AT TIMES A GYM ALSO HEALTH CENTER IS ALSO 1 TO 200. SO THIS IS MORE STRICT. THAT HELPS BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT HELPS PUT IT IN A BETTER REFERENCE FOR ME. JUST. YES, SIR. SENSITIVE TO THAT BECAUSE THE THE NEIGHBORS END UP GETTING UPSET. AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 100%. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FRUSTRATED. BUT EVEN SOME OF OUR. I WOULDN'T WANT OUR BUSINESSES TO COME OUT AND SOMEONE DECIDES TO HAVE AN AFTERNOON EVENT AND THEIR PEOPLE COME BACK FROM LUNCH AND CAN'T PARK ANYWHERE CLOSE, THAT SORT OF THING. SO. OKAY. THAT THAT WAS THAT. SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH IT BEING IN THOSE TWO WITH THAT RESTRICTION ON THE PARKING, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO OPERATE THOSE. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SURE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO WHAT THEY ENTER INTO. SO YEAH, AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS WE HAVE, IT SAYS EVENT CENTER SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 500FT OF A PROPERTY. THAT'S RESIDENTIALLY ZONED. OKAY. SO THAT WAY, AND IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT, THEN IT HAS TO, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY AN SUP, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAY IT'S A ZONING CASE. AND THOSE FOLKS CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR SAY OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT ON IT. OKAY. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I ASSUME THAT THAT CAN BE CORRECTED OR CAN BE ADVOCATED FOR WITH AN SUP. YES, SIR. WHICH OF COURSE WOULD TRIGGER A NOTIFICATION FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED TO BE ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK IF THEY WISHED. YES, SIR. AND THEN TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO GET COUNCIL INPUT ON IS THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT STAFF DIDN'T, BUT THE, WHEN WE WENT TO PLANNING AND ZONING WAS SEXUAL ORIENTATED BUSINESSES GOING FROM ALLOWED IN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO SPECIAL USE PERMIT ONLY IN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL INSTEAD OF ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. I WILL SAY THIS WITH THE, THE, THE SEXUAL ORIENTATED BUSINESSES HEAVY INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NOW THE ONLY, IT WOULD ALMOST REQUIRE AN SUP IN A WEIRD SORT OF WAY RIGHT NOW IT WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING CASE BECAUSE THE ONLY TWO PROPERTIES, PROPERTY OWNERS IN TOWN THAT HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ARE THE RAILROAD AND THE WATER DISTRICT. [01:05:03] THERE IS NO OTHER HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY INSIDE THE CITY OF WYLIE AT THIS POINT, SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO OPEN UP A SEXUAL ORIENTATED BUSINESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL TO GET A ZONING CHANGE ANYWAY. SO BUT PNC WANTED THE COMMISSION ASKED US TO JUST DISCUSS THAT OR TO LOOK INTO IT. CAN WE DO THAT? WE CAN. MY ONLY CONCERN AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUGE CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT ALLOWED BY RIGHT SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY, SO TO SPEAK YOU MAY RUN INTO SOME PUSHBACK IF SOMEBODY REALLY WANTS TO LITIGATE THAT, BUT I, I THINK IT'S A MINOR ISSUE. I DON'T THINK SOMEBODY WOULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT IS MY, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION. FAIR ENOUGH. I THINK, I THINK FROM MY, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND THEN ASK THE COUNCIL, SINCE THIS IS DIRECTION I THINK I'D PREFER FOR IT TO BE AN SUPI JUST WOULDN'T. AGAIN, SOMEONE WITH ALL THE GOOD INTENTIONS OF THE WORLD COULD BUY SOME PROPERTY ZONE IT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL RUN OUT OF MONEY PARTWAY THROUGH. WE'VE SEEN PROJECTS FAIL BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE PICKS IT UP. AND IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT MEETS REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S NO SAY ON ANY OF IT WITH THE COUNCIL. AND NOW THEN? THEN YOU HAVE TO BE THINKING IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD, THAT'S A POTENTIAL HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE. THE PERSON MAY NOT CARE ABOUT A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FACILITY THAT DOESN'T POLLUTE OR CAUSE PROBLEMS NEXT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY'LL PROBABLY CARE ABOUT THAT. YEAH, COMING NEXT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I GUESS THERE ARE TIMES THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO LITIGATE SOMETHING, THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT AT THE TIME, BUT I'D RATHER I'D RATHER PROTECT THE FUTURE AGAINST AN UNINTENTIONAL CONSEQUENCE IF WE WERE TO APPROVE A ZONING CHANGE. SO, OKAY, IF IF WE CAN DO THAT, I WOULD PREFER THAT I'LL TURN TO MY COLLEAGUES. I MAY BE THE ONLY ONE, SO I'LL START ON MY LEFT TONIGHT. COUNCILMAN PICKENS, YOUR THOUGHTS? I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRAIN. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. COUNCILMAN DUKE I AGREE. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. AGREED. AGREED. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. HOOVER. AGREED. AGREED. AND COUNCIL. MAYOR. PRO TEM. GOOD TO GO. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT GIVES YOU DIRECTION THERE. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS WE ARE PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE HOME OCCUPATION RULES TO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS IS THE MATCH. THERE WAS A RECENT STATE LAW PASSED. ACTUALLY I GUESS IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO NOW. AND BUT WHAT THE BIG CHANGE FOR US IN OUR ORDINANCE WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT CAN WORK. AND WE USED TO DO THAT WHERE WE'D SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE THAN TWO EMPLOYEES. STATE LAW SAYS THAT IF SOMEBODY IS DOING WHAT THEY CALL A. INCIDENTAL. YEAH. THERE'S A THERE'S A TERM FOR IT IN THE STATE LAW. AND I'M SORRY, I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT IF YOU'RE NOT NO IMPACT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED A NO IMPACT HOME OCCUPATION THAT IT REALLY LIMITS WHAT MUNICIPALITIES CAN AND CANNOT MAKE A REGULATION ON, YOU KNOW, OR PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE REMOVED THE LIMIT ON THE EMPLOYEES. AND THEN WE ALSO STATE LAW ALLOWS, IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER ONE THERE, IT SAYS HOME BASED BUSINESS THAT SELLS ALCOHOL. IT'S A SOBER LIVING HOME OR IS A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESS REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. STATE LAW SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS THAT LINE TO BE IN THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE WANT TO ADD THAT IN THERE. AND THEN THE REST OF IT CAN STAY THE SAME BECAUSE THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT IF THE HOME BASED BUSINESS ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH THE WITH A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT THE THE CITY CAN REGULATE IT. AND SO THE REST OF OUR ALREADY EXISTING ORDINANCE, WE FEEL MATCHES THAT AND ALLOWS THAT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST SELLING T SHIRTS OUT OF THEIR GARAGE, THAT IS A NO IMPACT BUSINESS THAT WE CANNOT REGULATE THAT LEGALLY. IF THEY HAVE A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY THAT THEY'RE RUNNING OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR HOME, THEN WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY COULD MANAGE IT FROM HOME AND STORE. YEAH, THEY COULD MANAGE IT FROM HOME AND STORE THEIR EQUIPMENT ELSEWHERE. BUT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO STORE EQUIPMENT AT THE HOUSE AND THAT SORT OF THING, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE IMPACTING THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND WE CAN REGULATE THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL WE'RE GETTING AT WITH THAT IS JUST TO BRING IT UP TO CODE WITH STATE LAW. OKAY. COUNCIL ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON ON THAT PORTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER CHANGES YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT? I THINK YOU'VE WALKED THROUGH. NO, SIR. ELIMINATING LANDFILLS AND MINING. [01:10:01] EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. MAYOR PRO TEM SORRY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I GUESS TO SAVE TIME, I'LL ASK. SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY STATED YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT TO SAVE TIME. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT. THANK YOU. THERE WE GO. COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH DRIVE THRU. IS THERE A REASON WHY WE LIMITED AT JUST DRIVE THRUS AND NOT JUST ALL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS? WE ALREADY, IF WE'RE GOING TO REGULATE A BUSINESS, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO SOMETHING THAT IS THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS. AND IT'S REALLY HARD, IN MY OPINION, TO POINT TO SOMETHING. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO OPEN JUST A BANK, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THERE TO, TO SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT THE CITIZENS. A DRIVE THRU BANK YOU'VE GOT. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE INTERACTIONS SO WE DON'T END UP WITH STACKING. WE DON'T END UP WITH STACKING AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES. SO THERE'S OUR HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, YOU KNOW, LIKE CASH STORES AND THAT SORT OF THING. THERE'S A LOT OF DATA OUT THERE THAT SAYS THAT THOSE CAN BE BAD IF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NUMEROUS WITHIN A CITY FOR VARIOUS REASONS. AND SO WE CAN REGULATE THOSE. BUT IF SOMEBODY WERE TO JUST OPEN A BANK THAT YOU WALK INTO, IT WOULD BE REALLY TOUGH FOR ME TO LEGALLY POINT TO SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT THAT'S A DETRIMENT TO THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY TARGETING DRIVE THRUS. OKAY. THANK YOU. FAIR ENOUGH. I ASSUME THAT'S THE KIND OF THE SAME PRINCIPLE AS RESTAURANTS. YES, SIR. AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, THEY'RE GOOD. IF THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVE THRU, THAT'S ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I DID WANT TO ASK, I APOLOGIZE, IT WAS BACK AT SECTION 7.11. I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING BELOW THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT STACKING THE COMMERCIAL DRIVE THROUGH, ETC. THAT'S REFERRING TO BUSINESSES WITH A DRIVE THRU ITSELF. THAT IS CORRECT, YES. OKAY. I JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND THAT DIDN'T JUST APPLY TO ENTRANCES TO THAT IS FOR DRIVE THRUS ONLY. YES, SIR. ENTRANCES TO ENTIRE DEVELOPMENTS. YEAH. WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT FIRE LANES ARE CLEAR OR THEY'RE NOT BACKING UP ON THE STREET OR THAT SORT OF THING. OKAY. THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE GET INTO THESE. YES, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. IT DID SAY APPEAL OF DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, IF THERE IS ONE ESTABLISHED TO DISCUSS. OH. SO WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO GET INTO DEEPER DETAIL? WE ALREADY HAVE THAT AND WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF INCLUDE THAT. WE ALLOW, YOU KNOW, AND WE THINK WE SHOULD WITH THE OH, THE EVENT CENTER WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SAME THING, THE DRIVE THRU. YEAH, THE DRIVE THRU THAT'S JUST IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THAT ENTIRE SECTION. I'M SORRY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE THE DRIVE THRUS ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE PART OF WHERE THE SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE AND OUR ALCOHOL USE. THOSE TWO DO HAVE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S ALL JUST PART OF THE SAME PART OF THAT ORDINANCE IN THE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. AND IT WAS JUST COPIED AND PASTED IN HERE. SO YOU COULD SEE THE WHOLE THING. BUT THERE ARE NO DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS ON A DRIVE THRU AS OF RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, ANY ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS PRESENTED OR OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT THEM TO TAKE BACK THAT MAYBE ISN'T IN HERE THIS EVENING? JUST GOT THE BOOK OPEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU SIR. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO WORK SESSION TWO, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL BOND PROJECTS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. [WS2. Discuss potential bond projects with the City Council.] SO, MR. PARKER, I ASSUME THAT WILL BE YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THIS, I SENT YOU ALL THIS SPREADSHEET THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING. BUT JUST BEFORE WE START, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN A PART OF A BOND PROCESS OR NOT. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND COUNTER LAY A FEW THINGS OUT. SO SO TONIGHT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT SELECTING SPECIFIC PROJECTS. IT'S MORE ABOUT PROVIDING DIRECTION AND PRIORITIES. [01:15:04] THE LIST HERE THAT, THAT WE'VE PROVIDED IS JUST A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT EITHER STAFF HAVE REALIZED THAT WE NEED CITIZENS HAVE REQUESTED COUNCIL'S DISCUSSED WE'VE PARKS AS A MASTER PLAN. SO JUST DIFFERENT, WE'VE GATHERED THAT INFORMATION THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT AVENUES. THIS IS VERY MUCH A PROCESS THAT'S DRIVEN BY YOU AS THE CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A, A STAFF. LEVEL INITIATIVE. THIS IS A COUNCIL LEVEL INITIATIVE. SO REALLY AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT, THAT WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO DEFINE. ONE OF THOSE BEING YOUR PRIORITIES. SO AS YOUR PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, IN WHATEVER ORDER IS IT INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY, WHATEVER IT IS, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DEFINE THAT PRIORITY SO THAT THE BOND COMMITTEE HAS THAT GROUNDWORK. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DECIDE THE FINANCIAL PIECE OF IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT'S COUNCIL'S COMFORT LEVEL OF, OF A TOTAL BOND PACKAGE AND WHERE THAT SHOULD LAND IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH DEBT SHOULD BE ISSUED. SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL PUT THE BOND PROPOSAL TOGETHER. SO WE CAN JUMP INTO THIS. THERE'S ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO. JUST BRING BACK FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION. SO UNDER PROJECTS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS. SO UNDER CEOS, PROJECTS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE AN ELECTION CAN BE PAID FOR WITH THE I AND S SIDE OF THE TAX RATE AS LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA WHICH PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, SEWER THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE ALLOWED TO BE PAID FOR UNDER THE IND S SIDE. NOW, LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION MAKING MUNICIPALITIES PAY FOR THOSE OUT OF THE M AND O SIDE, BUT THAT NEVER CAME TO PASS. SO WE'RE LUCKY THERE. I GUESS THE THING ISN'T WORKING DOWN HERE. STEPHANIE, CAN YOU CHANGE IT UP THERE? SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS. MAYOR IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT Y'ALL'S PRIORITIES FIRST OR KIND OF GO THROUGH THE LIST OF PROJECTS, OR REALLY I'M JUST UP HERE TO KIND OF NAVIGATE THINGS AND LISTEN TO Y'ALL TALK AND TAKE NOTES. SO. WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T I KNOW WE'VE GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROJECTS HERE? I KNOW AT LEAST I HAVE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A FINAL. I DON'T THINK WE ARE TRYING TO GET A FINAL DECISION. NO, JUST TO REITERATE FOR EVERYONE, BUT NOT AT ALL. I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF WE SAID WE'RE INTERESTED. PLEASE GET US MORE INFORMATION OR BREAKDOWN OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. OR THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ON HERE. THAT'S IT. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT. BUT OBVIOUSLY, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, AND I WOULD GUESS PROBABLY FROM MOST. WE PROBABLY WON'T PUT 320 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS ON THE BOND PACKAGE. SO THAT MEANS THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME DIFFERENT THINGS. SO IT MAYBE IF WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION ON GET US MORE INFORMATION. AND THEN EVEN IF WE NEED TO SUBDIVIDE SOMETHING OUT AND SAY WE'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING A PORTION OF SOMETHING, WHAT COULD WE DO? AND THAT'D BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF NOT KNOWING THE TIMING OF THESE PROJECTS. IF, IF YOU ALL IDENTIFIED THOSE THAT, HEY, THESE ARE KIND OF OUR PRIORITY TYPE OF DEAL, WE COULD COME BACK WITH A REFINED NUMBER. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFLATION THAT'S BEEN BUILT THAT'S BUILT INTO THESE. OBVIOUSLY, THE FOR THE MUNICIPAL AND ROAD AND PARKS PROJECTS, THERE'S ABOUT 3% A YEAR OR SO. FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, THERE'S ABOUT 6% A YEAR. SO THERE'S MILLIONS IN INFLATION THAT ARE BUILT INTO THIS. AND IF WE CAN REFINE THOSE NUMBERS, WE CAN GET A BETTER IDEA OF TIMING ON WHEN THEY WOULD START AND B GET A LITTLE MORE REALISTIC. AND JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE OF INFLATION THAT WE HAVE SEEN SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC SAFETY IS I THINK FIRE STATION THREE, I DON'T REMEMBER SOMEBODY SMARTER THAN ME. [01:20:03] MAYOR. YOU CAN DO THE MATH. TOTAL MILLION. ABOUT 3 MILLION. TOTAL PROJECT WAS ABOUT 3 MILLION. AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT 1200 ZERO SQUARE FEET. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS A FOOT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT, MAN. I WAS THINKING YOU COULD DO THAT ANYWAY. IT'S PROBABLY LIKE 150 BUCKS A FOOT. STATION FOUR. WE BUILT FOR AROUND $475 A FOOT. SO THAT WAS OPENED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS STATION. AND TODAY'S DOLLARS? IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND BUCKS A FOOT. SO INFLATION IS. SO IT'S GONE UP ABOUT FOUR X BECAUSE I THINK THREE WOULD HAVE BEEN 250 IF THE MATH IS CORRECT. TAKE ME A LITTLE LONGER TONIGHT. BALLPARK. BUT EITHER WAY IT'S GONE UP. IT'S GONE UP A LOT SUBSTANTIALLY. SO THAT'S JUST A REFERENCE POINT. YOU KNOW INFLATION. NOW I WILL SAY TALKING TO TOMMY FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS SIDE OF THINGS, IT DOES SEEM LIKE THOSE COSTS ARE STABILIZING IF NOT REDUCING SOME. SO THERE COULD BE SOME HOPE THERE ON SOME PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT IN THERE. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS I GUESS THE FIRST THING WE CAN JUST KIND OF YOU JUST KIND OF WANT TO RUN THROUGH. WE CAN JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH MAYBE SURE SECTIONS AT A TIME. SO WE'LL START WITH MUNICIPAL. MY QUESTION, IT LISTS OUT MULTIPLE THINGS. OBVIOUSLY 20 YEARS. HOW LONG? I ASSUME THE ROOF GOT REPLACED IN 2016, BUT I WASN'T HERE. SO DID THAT NOT GET REPLACED AFTER THAT STORM? NO, NO, NO, IT DID NOT. OKAY, SO I ASSUME WE'VE HAD A CLAIM, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH DAMAGE ON THAT ROOF, IF I REMEMBER. I DON'T THINK WE DIDN'T DO ANY PROJECTS ON THIS ROOF. WE DIDN'T REPLACE THE, THE THE TILES OUT HERE, WE DIDN'T. AND THEY GOT A LOT OF DAMAGE, BUT WE DIDN'T REPLACE THOSE. THE GREEN LOOKING AGAIN. I'M SO I ASK, SINCE I'M THE OLDEST SERVING MEMBER AND THAT PREDATES ME, SO I. YEAH, SO THIS IDEA, THIS FACILITY, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT 20 YEARS OLD TODAY, BY 2019, 2020 IT'LL BE 18, 19 YEARS OLD AT THAT POINT. SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, A 20 YEAR OLD FACILITY, I, YOU KNOW, I GIVE IT TO OUR FOLKS FOR TAKING GREAT CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE. PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THAT BAD OF SHAPE FOR WHAT WE HAVE. TALKING TO OTHER FOLKS AND OTHER CITIES. I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN TO SOME OTHER BUILDINGS THAT AREN'T AS OLD AND THEY DON'T LOOK AS, BUT THESE ARE JUST THINGS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT, THAT ARE PROBABLY LARGE TICKET ITEMS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PLACED IN A, IN A BOND. OKAY. THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AGAIN, WE'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEFORE. I KNOW TALKING TO CHRIS NOW I FEEL THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD HAS A DESIRE TO, TO ALSO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ANIMAL SHELTER OR KIND OF OUR THOUGHT THERE WAS, WE HAVE OVER THERE ON HENSLEY LANE IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS NOT I GUESS, ADEQUATELY LAID OUT, SO THERE IS POTENTIAL ROOM TO BUILD A NEW ANIMAL SHELTER. IT WOULD TAKE SOME REARRANGING POTENTIALLY DEMOING THE PARKS, BUILDING AND BUILDING NEW PARKS, BUILDING ON THE BACK. AND WE NEED NEW ADDITIONAL PARKING OVER THERE. PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF EXPANSION. THE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT, THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS ABOUT 10,000FT² OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I THINK THE COST ON IT WAS ABOUT 12 MILLION IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE CAN BREAK ALL THESE PROJECTS OUT. ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO, LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS WE CAN FOR PUBLIC WORKS, WE WE CAN ALWAYS ISSUE DEBT THROUGH THE UTILITY FUND AND FUND THAT OUT OF THERE VERSUS THROUGH THE TAX RATE. SO THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR A PORTION OF THAT. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ABILITY IN PARKS. AS WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING, I THINK THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 5 MILLION THAT PARKS COULD HANDLE AT THIS TIME. MAYBE SIX. SO YOU'RE KIND OF LIMITED THERE, BUT THERE ARE SOME WAYS TO REDUCE THAT SO THAT IT'S NOT [01:25:04] 100% IMPACTING THE THE TAX RATE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU MAYOR. MISTER PARKER, DIDN'T WE DO A A GET BY JUST RECENTLY WITH THE ANIMAL ANIMAL SHELTER? I WAS THINKING THAT WE HAD WE DID A REMODEL REMODEL WHERE WE ADDED WHERE WE ALMOST DOUBLED THE FOOTAGE THAT THEY HAD. OR AM I THINKING WE DIDN'T ADD ANY FOOTAGE? WE REMODELED THE INSIDE OF IT. I REMEMBER A SPLIT IN IT WHERE THE DOGS WERE ON ONE SIDE AND CATS ON ONE SIDE, AND SO THAT MIGHT BE ADDED A SHOWER AND SOME RESTROOMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT WE DIDN'T ADD ANY FOOTAGE ON OR AROUND IT. OKAY. I KNEW WE HAD LOTS OF OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WHAT WAS THE BUDGET ON WHAT WE SPENT ON THE REMODEL? 800, 800,000. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I THINK ON THIS ONE WOULD LIKE TO JUST, I THINK AN ANIMAL SHELTER, OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS BUILT. IT'S GOT TO BEEN A LONG TIME BACK. PROBABLY IN THE 90S WOULD BE MY GUESS. PROBABLY GOT TO BE PUSHING 30 PLUS 30 YEARS. BUT BUT FAIR TO SAY, IT WASN'T BUILT FOR A TOWN OF 65 PLUS THOUSAND PEOPLE. BEYOND THAT, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS EVEN EVEN JUST PARKING ITSELF IS DIFFICULT FOR STAFF AND, AND OUR EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES OVER THERE FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS. SO I DO WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF A BREAKDOWN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THROUGH. YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS CREATIVE ON EXPANSIONS OR IF WE NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK. I KNOW I'M KIND OF RAMBLING AND HOW I PUT IT, BUT NOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE MOST EFFICIENT. AND THEN IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOME OF THE PUBLIC WORK SIDE OF THINGS AND POTENTIALLY DO THAT THROUGH OUR BONDING MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA. SO I THINK FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK I'D LIKE TO, TO SEE THAT. AND I KNOW THESE ARE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS AS FAR AS THAT GOES. SO I'D LOVE TO. I'D LOVE TO TRY TO BRING THAT DOWN FROM WHERE IT IS, IF POSSIBLE, WITH SOME EXPANSIONS. AND AGAIN POTENTIALLY PUTTING SOME OF THAT THROUGH THE UTILITY FUND DEBT MECHANISM INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ALL NECESSARILY ON INS JUST TO, TO FREE UP A FEW DOLLARS POTENTIALLY TO USE ELSEWHERE ON OTHER PROJECTS TO. COUNCIL. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ON THE PROPERTY ON ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING. MUNICIPALITY BUILDING. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REPLACING HVAC OR ARE YOU MOSTLY JUST KIND OF WHERE IT'S NEEDED? TYPE OF REPLACEMENT? WE REPLACE HVAC SYSTEM HERE AT THE MUNICIPAL. AND IN 2016, NONE OF THE AC, NONE OF THE ANYTHING THAT WAS ON THE ROOF WAS NOT TOUCHED OR REPLACED OR DAMAGED. OKAY. AND THEN ON TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF, TALKED ABOUT $12 MILLION. BUT WE HAVE, GIVE OR TAKE ABOUT 40 MILLION. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW FACILITIES FOR PUBLIC WORKS, ADDING OFFICES, ADDING ON TO THE CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING POTENTIALLY. AND WE HAVEN'T DOVE THAT DEEP INTO A LAYOUT OVER THERE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PROBABLY REARRANGE SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO, TO FIT ANIMAL, AN ANIMAL SHELTER, A BIGGER ANIMAL SHELTER AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT DEEP INTO ANYTHING YET. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO GET SOME BREAKDOWNS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON BOTH OF THOSE ON ALL THREE OF THOSE AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S FEASIBLE AND WHAT'S KIND OF WE CAN WORK AROUND. THAT'S MY DIRECTION ON THAT. COUNCILMAN HOOVER. I AGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE BREAKDOWN ON THAT. AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS OKAY. IT IS A PROJECT WE'RE INTERESTED IN, BUT JUST TRYING TO SEE IT BROKEN DOWN. AND AS ALWAYS, I KNOW YOU GUYS DO IT FROM THE START, BUT JUST SEEING HOW FAR WE CAN STRETCH DOLLARS AS WE GET TOWARDS WHATEVER FINAL NUMBER THE COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT HAS INTEREST IN IN TRYING TO BREAK IT DOWN MORE AND AND FURTHER [01:30:08] INVESTIGATE. WELL, KIND OF THE ADVANTAGE WE HAVE IS IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE REFINED, I MEAN, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH HIT THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF A BOND IS PASSED IN 26 AND DEBT FALLS OFF AND WE CAN ISSUE IT, I MEAN, WE CAN DO SOME DESIGN THINGS AHEAD OF TIME, THEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT INFLATION WILL BE REDUCED OUT OF THOSE NUMBERS. YEAH. WHICH WOULD BE GREAT. SO AGAIN, I GET FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF IF WE CAN GET TO A NUMBER THAT THE COUNCIL AND STAFF ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND IT PASSES, I WOULD AS FAR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TIMING FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, I MEAN, IF IT PASSES IN NOVEMBER, I KNOW WE WON'T ISSUE THE DEBT. I'D LOVE TO SEE US TURNING AROUND AND GETTING READY, YOU KNOW, HAVING BASIC PLANS AND STARTING THAT RIGHT AWAY. AND. 27 BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE A WHILE TO ENGINEER AND GET ALL THOSE THINGS AND BIDDED OUT AND NOW THAT TYPE OF THING. AND WE'VE WORKED WITH, WE'VE WORKED BEFORE, AND SHE ALWAYS DOES A GREAT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT WE STRUCTURE FIRST PAYMENT. YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO KICK SOMETHING OFF ALL 27 AND IT'S FALLEN OFF IN 28. SHE SHE WORKS HER MAGIC ON ON MAKING THAT HAVE AS LITTLE IMPACT ON TAX RATE IN CURRENT YEARS AS POSSIBLE ALL THE TIME. SO I KNOW WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AS WELL. SO BUT THAT IT WOULD BE A RIGHT OF WAY PROJECT. SO THAT HELPED FOR I MEAN, THERE WEREN'T A LOT IN THAT CATEGORY. SO SO PARKS AND RECS. NEXT UP AGAIN THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THE TOP TWO THERE ARE IN LIGHT OF THE POTENTIAL LEASE WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. OBVIOUSLY THOSE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL BACK, I GUESS A FEW YEARS AGO, WHENEVER WE INITIALLY TRIED TO, TRIED TO DO A LEASE WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. AND AGAIN, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY EVERYTHING HAS TO BE DONE IN THOSE CATEGORIES, BUT THOSE ARE JUST THINGS THAT ARE IN THEIR MASTER PLAN AND, AND PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST. SO FOR EAST FORK PARTICULARLY, WHICH OF COURSE IS THE FIRST ONE HERE. I'D LIKE TO SEE US REFINE THE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY WORK WITH A PARTNER TO OPERATE IT AND TRY TO KEEP IT AS GENERALLY REVENUE NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT INTO IT OFF THE BAT. ALSO, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT BE USEFUL FOR OUR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN A RV AND CAMPING IS GREAT FOR POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN SOME REVENUE. BUT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF OUR I MEAN, MAYBE SOME CAMPING, BUT I DON'T THINK OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO DRIVE THEIR RV OUT THERE. MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU GET, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKING, THE BOAT RAMP, THE BEACH SPECIFICALLY TO HELP DRAW PEOPLE IN AND PROVIDE A WATER RESOURCE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'D LIKE TO SEE US OBVIOUSLY PENDING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CORPS. I WOULD WANT US TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT QUICKLY AS WELL FROM AN INFLATIONARY STANDPOINT. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT REFINED. THERE WERE A WHOLE LOT OF IDEAS THAT WERE PRESENTED, AND IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE FOR PARKS AND RECREATION TO STREAMLINE A FEW OF THOSE OR I THINK WE TOOK THE GLAMPING OUT. YEAH. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I THINK IF YOU DO SOME OF THAT STUFF, YOU CAN MAKE IT NICE RIGHT AWAY. AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE POTENTIALLY A PHASE TWO. BUT FOR, WELL, FOR ME ON PARKS AND REC, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT ONE. IT BRINGS VISITORS TO THE CITY. IT PROVIDES THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S NOT A POOL, BUT IT'S A GIANT POOL. IT IS, SO TO SPEAK FROM THAT STANDPOINT WHICH IS GOING TO FIT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN. WELL, AND I THINK NOW THAT THE LEASE IS UP, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE LEASE, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THE COURT TO REFINE THAT BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING WAS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM. WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THAT PROGRAM THAT THEY HAD. SO WE PROBABLY REFINE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT OUR CITIZENS WOULD LOVE. IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF A RESOURCE THAT WE FRANKLY DON'T TAP VERY MUCH, IF AT ALL, AS A COMMUNITY, DESPITE BEING NEXT TO TWO LARGE LAKES. AND AGAIN, I KNOW, I KNOW, I JOKE ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WANT SOMEWHERE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT IN THE WATER WITH THEIR KIDS AND TAKE THEIR FAMILIES AND GET OUTDOORS, YOU KNOW, THE SPLASH PADS ARE GREAT, BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT KIND OF A NEXT, NEXT LEVEL OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO. [01:35:02] AND NOW WE TEXAS ALSO HAS A LOT OF WARM WEATHER. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE COOLER THIS MONTH, BUT LAST MONTH WE WERE IN THE 90S. SO NOW THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE IF YOU HAVE A WEEKEND LIKE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN A POOL COMPLEX FOR A WEEKEND. BUT IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE MONITORING AND SOMEONE WANTS TO GO FOR A DIP IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE IT'S 95 DEGREES, YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAS A, IT'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AND THEY'RE PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT TOO HAPPY AT ME PUTTING IT THAT WAY. BUT YEAH, IT IS. AND AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCOMPLISH MULTIPLE THINGS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TOWN WITH ONE PROJECT. COUNCIL. ANY. ANY OTHER OPINIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM? COUNCILMAN. PICKENS. YEAH. IN RELATION TO EAST FORK AND AVALON REMIND ME, AVALON IS THE ONE THAT'S CLOSER TO THE DAM. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YES. I YOU MENTIONED A PHASE RESPONSE OR RESPONSE TO OUR ACQUISITION AND IN BUILD OUT OF THIS AREA. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK IF WE TRY TO BITE OFF TOO MUCH AT ONE TIME, THE COST GETS HIGH. AND I THINK WE COULD DO A PHASED RESPONSE THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE FOR BOTH PARKS. AND I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE. ACTUALLY TWO EXAMPLES. WHEN I LIVED IN ROWLETT, I LIVED THERE FOR TEN YEARS. THE, THE END OF THE ROAD THAT HIT 30, THAT WHOLE AREA THAT JUTTED OUT IN THE LAKE, IT WAS ALL JUST VACANT LAND. AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE. AND SO DID SEVERAL OTHER HUNDRED PEOPLE EVERY, ALMOST EVERY TIME I WENT DOWN THERE, IT WAS PACKED AND THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THERE. IT WAS JUST EMPTY LAND. AND I THINK IF WE PROVIDE A LIKE ON AVALON PARK JUST AN OPPORTUNITY THAT'S A NICE PLACE. CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT. PEOPLE WILL COME TO IT. AND THE SECOND EXAMPLE OF THAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS WHEN MY, MY SON WAS PLAYING BASEBALL. WE'D GO TO THE PARK AND ALAN THE NAME OF IT IT'S NAMED AFTER THE GRASS THAT'S PLANTED THERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME, BUT IT WAS JUST BIG EMPTY PLACE. IT'S WHERE THEY DO THEIR FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR. AND AND YEAH, SO HIS BASEBALL TEAM, THAT'S WHERE WE PRACTICED. WE JUST WENT OUT THERE AND CARVED OUT A BIG SECTION AND WE PRACTICED BASEBALL THERE. AND THERE WAS SOCCER. THERE WAS LACROSSE WAS THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM WAS RUNNING OUT THERE. AND IT'S JUST AN OPEN FIELD. THAT'S IT. AND IT WAS GETTING USED. SO I THINK THAT EVEN IF IF WE CONCENTRATED ON EAST FORK AND THEN PUT AVALON AS A PHASED APPROACH AND, AND CLEANED IT UP A BIT AND MADE IT A NICE OPEN FIELD THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO, TO COME TO, IT WOULD GET USED AND WE COULD CUT THAT COST ON THAT ONE PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY TO DO THAT. THAT'S IT. IT MAY BE MORE SOMETHING AS FAR AS AVALON IN THE CLOSER TO 3 OR 4 WHERE WE DO SOME PARKING, SOME CLEANUP. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE. YEAH, IT NEEDS A ROAD AND IT'S A NICE PARK. IT'S JUST LIKE THE COUNCILMAN SAID. IT JUST NEEDS SOME CLEANUP AND SOME ATTENTION. YEAH. THAT'S IT. JUST GO OUT THERE AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BETTER. A LITTLE MORE PRESENTABLE THAN WHAT IT IS. BUT. AND THEN CONCENTRATE A LITTLE BIT LATER DOWN THE ROAD. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MOVES US DOWN TO FOUNDERS. AND I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT FOUNDERS OR HAVE US TALK ABOUT FOUNDERS AND COMMUNITY, SINCE IT'S THE TWO EXISTING CITY PARKS THAT ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER THERE. I KNOW THERE'S BIG DIFFERENCES. I KNOW THERE'S SOME COLLEAGUES WHO'VE HAD SOME OPINION, PASSIONATE OPINIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE AREAS. SO GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO TURN THAT IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO GIVE SOME THOUGHTS. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY ONE ALWAYS SPEAKING OR SPEAKING FIRST. SO, MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU MAYOR. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PASSION, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME. BUT I THINK WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE BOTH PARKS AND THE WAY THESE PARKS ARE USED BY OUR YOUTH. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLE. I DO THINK THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT EAST FORK AND ABILITY TO HAVE A GIANT POOL AVAILABLE TO OUR CITIZENS WITH SPLASH SPLASH THAT WE HAVE BUILT, I THINK FOR FOUNDERS. I THINK THE SPLASH PAD, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MOVE OUT OF IT, ESPECIALLY WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH EAST FORK COMING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY AND BEING AVAILABLE TO OUR CITIZENS. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE RENTAL CABANAS AND THOSE. [01:40:01] I THINK FOR ME AT LEAST, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE NECESSARY PIECE FOR THE CITIZENS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE PIRATE COVE AND OTHER AREAS AS FAR AS THE FIELDS GOES. MY RECOMMENDATION ON THESE BOTH BOTH FIELDS WOULD BE TO TURF THEM. ARTIFICIAL ARTIFICIAL TURF ON BOTH ON OLD FIELDS IN COMMUNITY AND IN FOUNDERS AND HAVE A LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR FIND A WAY TO, TO HAVE THEM BUDGET NEUTRAL IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD BY THE END OF THE YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE INVEST IN THEM AND WHAT WE GET OUT OF THEM. AND BY THAT MEANS ABILITY TO DO USE BY TURF IN THEM. YOUR AVAILABILITY TO THE FIELDS WOULD BE A LOT LONGER AND HAVE A LOT MORE AVAILABILITY. FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS OUT IN MELISSA AT XYPEX THIS WEEKEND. IT WAS POURING RAIN AND WE WERE STILL PLAYING BASEBALL. SO THE FIELDS DON'T GET OVERUSED AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE USED, YOU KNOW, AT TOURNAMENT TYPE OF STRUCTURES AS WELL. SO IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND IT WOULD DRIVE TRAFFIC TO WILEY AND WOULD DRIVE OTHER FOLKS TO COME IN AND VISIT WILEY AND SEE GREAT THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER IN WILEY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. I'D BE OPEN TO THAT AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AS A WHOLE. I DO AGREE THAT BOTH SIDES NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING. WE HAVE THE FIELDS ON COMMUNITY PARK. THAT NOT THE BASEBALL FIELDS, BUT THE PRACTICE FIELDS. I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT MAKING THEM A TEE BALL FIELDS OR, YOU KNOW, A TEN U AND UNDER, WHICH IS A GROWING GROUP OF YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE AND PLAYING, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REUSE THOSE FOR MAYBE OUR WILY LEAGUE OR OUR SOFTBALL LEAGUES OR WHATNOT, AND HAVE THE MAIN FIELDS BE ABLE TO USE A THIRD PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE SOME INCOME FROM, FROM THOSE SITES. SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IN THESE. AND WHAT I WOULD KIND OF, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A BOND TOGETHER, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WOULD LOOK, PERSONALLY SPEAKING, WHAT I WOULD LOOK TO IT. SO JUST TO RECAPTURE THAT AT FOUNDERS AND COMMUNITY, YOU'RE WANTING SPECIFICALLY ARTIFICIAL TURF PARKING AND LIGHTING. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY THAT'S YOUR TOP PRIORITY, MY TOP PRIORITY. AND I, AND I, I JUST REALIZED I SHOULD HAVE PUT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM AT THE COMMUNITY PARK CENTER UP IN FACILITIES. AND I DID OVERLOOK THAT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD CONSIDER THE FIRE SUPPRESSION? I WOULD I WOULD ADD TO THE LIST IF WE COULD GET A PRICE AT THE SENIOR CENTER. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING I AGREE WITH. OKAY. I AGREE WITH THAT. WE HAVE CITIZENS IN THERE. FIRE SUPPRESSION SHOULD BE A MUST. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, NOT TO MENTION THAT IT OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT FOOLPROOF, BUT I THINK I THINK OUR TEAM FROM WILEY FIRE WOULD TELL YOU IT HELPS HELPS SECURE THAT ASSET IF THERE IS AN ISSUE NOT NOT THAT THEY'RE SLOW. THEY'RE ONE OF THE FASTEST AROUND. BUT IT WOULD HELP PREVENT GOD FORBID THERE WAS EVER AN ISSUE. IT WOULD HELP KEEP THE PEOPLE SAFE BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME LIMITED MOBILITY INDIVIDUALS IN THERE, AND IT'S GOING TO HELP PROTECT THE INVESTMENT TO WHERE IT NEEDS REPAIRS AS OPPOSED TO, YEAH, IT'S IT'S OLDER AND OKAY, SO I'LL PUT IT FORWARD AGAIN, SINCE WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION AND BACKING UP WITH WHAT MR. PARKER CLARIFIED. SO WE WOULD LOOK AT PARKING, THE WORK ON THE FIELDS, LIGHTING AND THE FIRE SUPPRESSION. FOCUS ON THOSE ITEMS FROM THERE AND HAVE THOSE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL AND OR THE BOND COMMITTEE. I'M JUST I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP SAYING BOTH THINGS OVER AND OVER. IS EVERYONE. OKAY. WE'RE GETTING NODS. SO TRAILS PLAYGROUND. I'LL TAKE THE NEXT TWO TOGETHER. I MEAN, I'LL BE HONEST, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME WORK ON THOSE OVER TIME, BUT I HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF ALL OF THE REQUESTS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ALREADY A CHUNK BEING PUT TOWARDS POTENTIALLY EAST FORK AND THE OTHER PARKS. I WOULD PUT THOSE ON HOLD FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LOVE THEM AND FRANKLY, YOU'RE WELL, WELL AWARE THAT I LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT. I, I JUST, IF I'M, IF I'M HAVING TO TALK ABOUT OVERALL IMPACT. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE FOR ME A LITTLE LOWER ON THE PRIORITY LIST. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD PUT THOSE LOWER ON AND THEN TRY TO GET THE PORT IN PLAY OVER TIME AS WE CAN. [01:45:06] OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE AWARE THAT THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE THINGS THAT MAY GIVE US SOME FOUR B MONEY AND MAYBE THOSE WOULD BE THINGS WE DO ONE AT A TIME IN THE FUTURE. SO IT'S NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT. JUST I WOULD PUT THOSE DOWN FURTHER. COUNCIL. OKAY, SO WE AGREE. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM, BUT NOT AS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. SO OR NOT AS HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST. LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD MOVE US TO PARK DEVELOPMENTS. AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE LAKE AND HAVE A NICE BEACH AND SWIM AREA, I KNOW PEOPLE WOULD STILL LOVE TO HAVE A POOL, BUT I THINK I WOULD, AND I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE FEASIBILITY THAT'S PUT HERE. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO ACQUIRE LAND MAYBE WITH OUR FOUR B MONEY. I KNOW, I KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WITH WHAT DEBT ROOM WE HAVE THERE, I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO DO IT THROUGH THAT PORTION AND THE REST OF THAT AGAIN, JUST KIND OF PUTTING ON ON PAUSE FOR A PRIORITY. NOW, MY MY COLLEAGUES MAY DISAGREE. I'M GETTING A LOT OF HEAD NODS. SO. THAT MOVES US TO PUBLIC SAFETY. PAGING GOING DOWN HERE. THERE WE GO. SO PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS KIND OF A I'LL HAVE TO JUST THAT 117 MILLION IS A CULMINATION OF US. SOME OF THOSE ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ANYWAY. YEAH. I THINK BASED ON WHAT'S, IT'S REALLY THE TOP ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, NOT THE, NOT THE BOTTOM THREE ALTERNATES. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED FIRE STATION TWO MOVING. THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. POLICE IS, IS NEARING, IF NOT AT CAPACITY OVER AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. SO THE THOUGHT IS TO MOVE FIRE STATION TWO OVER HERE ON THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX WHICH WOULD BRING DISPATCH FIRE ADMIN TRAINING, ALL THE STUFF LISTED THERE. AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF ESCALATION FEES IN THAT FIRE STATION ONE, WE HAVE PROPERTY AT PLEASANT VALLEY AND SOUTH BALLARD. THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TO RELOCATE THAT FIRE STATION TO KIND OF FILL IN A GAP THAT WE HAVE BASED ON OUR COVERAGE. FIRE STATION FIVE IS OBVIOUSLY A NEW FIRE STATION. WE DO NOT HAVE LAND PURCHASED FOR THAT, WHICH ALONG WITH THAT WOULD COME NEW STAFFING, NEW EQUIPMENT, NEW APPARATUS. THE SECOND OR THE PUBLIC SAFETY GENERATORS. WE HAVE A GENERATOR CURRENTLY AT CITY HALL, BUT IT ONLY RUNS THE SERVER ROOM, WHICH IS KIND OF USELESS IN MY OPINION. AND ACTUALLY WHEN WE WERE RESEARCHING THAT THE GENERATOR THAT WAS IN THE PLANS I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THREE TIMES LARGER THAN WHAT IS PLACED OUT THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT OR NOT. I SHOULDN'T NOD MY HEAD BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE. YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT WITH AN ENGINEER WITH A GENERATOR HERE IS DURING TIMES WHERE WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL WINTER WEATHER WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY REALLY FOR A SHELTER. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS MORE THAN WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US. BUT GENERATORS, ELECTRICITY BECOMES THE ISSUE. SO THE THOUGHT IS WE WOULD ESTABLISH THE REC CENTER AS A, AS A SHELTER, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE LOSS OF POWER. AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY PARKING EXPANSION, THAT WAS THE BIG AREA THAT STARWOOD USES NOW IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. WHENEVER WE REMODELED OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING THAT PARKING EXPANSION WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS WITH TOMMY, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO THAT'S A LARGE PROJECT FOR US TO DO IN HOUSE, [01:50:09] BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO TO DO THAT IN HOUSE. I'M NOT SURE HOW HOW COMFORTABLE HE IS WITH THAT LARGE OF A PROJECT, BUT OUR PARKING LOT OVER THERE IS GETTING FULL BECAUSE OF THE COURT DOCKETS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE OVER THERE FROM TIME TO TIME. AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING REMODEL, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF FIRE STATION TWO WERE TO MOVE, THEN THERE WOULD BE SOME REMODEL WORK OVER THERE TO ACCOMMODATE PD. SO THAT'S THOSE TOP FEW LINES THERE THAT EQUAL THE 117 MILLION FIRE. AND THEN THEY OUGHT TO GO THROUGH THE ALTERNATES OR DO YOU WANT TO. YEAH I THINK, I THINK SO JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT. SO THE FIRST FIRE STATION TWO ALTERNATE THERE IS INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION FACILITY OVER HERE, WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS OVER AT STATION TWO. WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ADDING A BAY. CREATING SEPARATE BEDROOMS SOME ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY PARKING SPACES OVER THERE. THERE'S JUST SOME, SOME OF OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE THAT'S THAT FIRST ALTERNATE THERE. NOW, WOULD IT ADDRESS THE BEDROOMS? IT SAYS IT DOESN'T. IT SAYS IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE CURRENT FIRE STATION ISSUES SUCH AS BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS. OH. SO DOES IT NOT INCLUDE THAT? I THOUGHT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. OH. IT DOESN'T, I GUESS IT DOESN'T. OKAY, SO THAT'S JUST ADDING THE DRAINAGE. SO. AND THEN THE OTHER BIG THING IS, IS RIGHT NOW THE SEWER IS PUMPED TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. AND THIS WOULD TIE IT INTO THE. SEWER SYSTEM. WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUMP IT TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S ALTERNATE ONE. ALTERNATE TWO. IF THE STATION TWO PROJECT STATION TWO WAS MOVED OVER HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T INCORPORATE THE OTHER ITEMS UP THERE. THE TRAINING FACILITY, FIRE STATION TWO WOULD BECOME TRAINING FLEET AND LOGISTICS FOR CITYWIDE LOGISTICS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION. AND THEN IF WE DIDN'T MOVE FIRE STATION ONE, AN ALTERNATE COULD BE. THIS WHICH WOULD ADDRESS SOME ADDITIONAL BASE SPACE AND STORAGE. BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ISSUES SUCH AS THE BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, ETC.. SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF ALTERNATES FOR, FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL. IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE. OKAY, I'LL, I'LL HIT THE ONES THAT, AT LEAST FOR ME, ARE THE EASIER TO DISCUSS UP FRONT. I THINK TO YOUR POINT, FIRE STATION FIVE WHILE IT WOULD BE GREAT. WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO STAFF THAT UP. AND I KNOW THE BUDGETARY PRESSURES AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS BOTH PUBLICLY. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS TRACK IT ABOUT LEGISLATURE POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT I THINK ARE PRETTY CERTAINLY COMING NEXT YEAR. THAT MAY MAKE IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT FROM THAT STANDPOINT. I WOULD HATE TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION AND LIKE, NOT HERE. I'LL MAKE LIKE SOME ISDS HAVE FOUND THEY'VE BUILT NEW SCHOOLS THROUGH A BOND, AND THEN THERE'S NO ONE IN THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO STAFF THEM. WHICH HAS HAPPENED HERE IN DFW IN MULTIPLE DISTRICTS. SO AS, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT ONE ON, I THINK FOR ME, WITH NOT BEING CERTAIN THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FUND THE STAFF TO KEEP THAT OPEN WITH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT FALLS UNDER M AND O. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN WITH THAT ONE. IS THAT A FAIR CONCERN? OKAY. I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT THE STATE LEGISLATORS LOVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND THERE'S ALWAYS A CARVE OUT. FAIR ENOUGH. AND MOST LEGISLATIVE BILLS THAT PASS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THE ONE THAT I GAINED THE MOST TRACTION LAST YEAR ANY TAX INCREASE [01:55:01] THAT WAS TIED TO PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD NOT REQUIRE A VOTE. SO WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO BECOME PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES. AND WE'LL, THE LEGISLATORS ARE NOT THAT SMART TO FIGURE OUT EVERY LOOPHOLE, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT SOME FIREFIGHTERS SITTING AROUND THE COFFEE TABLE OR KITCHEN TABLE WILL FIND A LOOPHOLE FOR US TO GET AROUND. SO. FAIR ENOUGH. BUT I WOULD AGREE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I THINK THERE'S STILL IN STATION FIVE DISTRICT. THERE'S STILL QUITE A BIT OF COUNTY PROPERTY AND, AND DEVELOPMENT THAT, IN MY OPINION, WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THAT'S I'LL HIT THE NEXT TWO AND THEN THE REST ALL KIND OF INTERPLAY. AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES NEXT TO DOWN ON THAT LIST, I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY GENERATORS. I THINK THAT THAT'S A NO BRAINER FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A SHELTER FOR THE, I GUESS IT'S MAYBE EVERY OTHER YEAR, BAD WEATHER THAT WE SEEM TO GET OR BAD, BAD WEATHER MAKING SURE THAT THE STATIONS HAVE POWER. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GETTING CALLS AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, WE HAVE OUR OFFICERS THERE, WE HAVE OUR DISPATCH THERE, WE HAVE A JAIL THERE. I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE STILL FUNCTIONAL IN THOSE EVENTS. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AGAIN, AND, YOU KNOW, PARKING PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO GET THERE. BUT I KNOW THOSE AREN'T BIG TICKET ITEMS, BUT AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK THOSE ARE ONES THAT WOULD BE FOR SURE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TACKLE. COUNCIL. ANY DISAGREEMENT ON THOSE TWO? I KNOW THEY'RE NOT BIG ONES, SO, BUT THEY MAKE AN IMPACT IN, IN PREPAREDNESS FROM THERE. I WANT TO OPEN IT UP BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ITEM ONE, FIRE STATION ONE IS SEPARATE, BUT FIRE STATION TWO IS LINKED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BOTH BE DONE, BUT THEY WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO TOGETHER. AND THEN WE HAVE ALTERNATES BELOW THAT ADJUST THE ADJUSTED OR OR PROVIDE ALTERNATES ON I'LL CALL IT MORE TEMPORARY FIXES. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO PHRASE IT. COUNCIL WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ON THIS PACKAGE IN GENERAL? ON THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE. OKAY. SO I'M NOT GETTING ANY, ANY, ANY JUMPERS HERE. SO OH, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO I MEAN, THIS ISN'T WE'RE NOT MAKING DECISIONS. THIS IS JUST KIND OF PRIORITIES. AND LET'S, LET'S DO THIS. WE DON'T WANT TO YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S NO NO REAL HEAVY DESIRE TO, TO MOVE ON ANY OF THIS AND WE CAN GO ON. AND I THINK WE, I THINK WE'VE TACKLED A COUPLE, I KNOW. DO YOU WANT TO CHEW ON IT SOME AND YEAH, CHEWING ON IT. AND FOR ME, IF YOU'RE NOT HEARING FROM ME A LOT, IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED DEBT AND HOW THE DEBT'S GOING TO FALL OFF AND ALL OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF HOW MUCH COULD BE THERE TO SPEND. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M PULLED BACK AND JUST KIND OF ABSORBING IT ALL UNTIL WE GET. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE SOMEWHERE AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME UP AND KNOCK ME OVER THE HEAD. I THINK IT WAS IF YOU TOOK THE FIRST AND YOU TOOK THE STUFF THAT FALLS OFF A YEAR OR TWO LATER, IT'S AROUND 90 MILLION. I THINK THE FIRST ROUND WAS 75,000,000 IN 28 ISH. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT MORE THAT ENDS UP AROUND 90. THAT COULD BE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT SHEET I SENT Y'ALL. I JUST DON'T I BELIEVE THAT 90 TO 95 BALLPARK IS A 90 MILLION BY 2020. THERE YOU GO SOME SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. SO THAT GIVE YOU AN IDEA WITHOUT CHANGING. OBVIOUSLY, IT KEEPS THE TAX RATE TAX RATE FROM DROPPING WHEN DEBT FALLS OFF, BUT IT WOULDN'T RAISE THE TAX RATE FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS ON AN INS BASIS. THAT GIVES ME SOME INFORMATION. BUT THAT'S I'M JUST GOING TO ABSORB FOR NOW. BUT IF YOU DON'T HEAR A LOT FROM ME, IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT I CAN SHOOT MYSELF. I CAN TUNE IN ON WHAT I THINK ON CERTAIN OPTIONS ABOVE OTHER OPTIONS. BUT IF YOU DON'T HEAR A LOT, IT'S UNTIL WE GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT DOING A BOND. YES OR NO. AND THEN WHAT BUDGET WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT PRIORITIES WE HAVE AND START CHEWING DOWN. THAT'S WHEN I DON'T WANT TO. TOSS AROUND THINGS THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN MATTER. OKAY. COUNCILMAN PICKENS, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MY COMMENTS ARE MORE IN GENERAL TO THE OVERALL PACKAGE THAT'S PRESENTED. [02:00:05] AND IT BOUNCES OFF THE DISCUSSION OF THE CURRENT BONDS FALLING OFF AND REPLACING THEM WITH NEW BONDS THAT DON'T INCREASE THE TAX THAT THE CITIZENS ARE ENCOUNTERING. AND I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE COMMENT I MADE IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL SESSION WERE, YOU KNOW, HEALTH INSURANCE SEEMS TO BE OUT OF CONTROL AND THE PREMIUM PRICES. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. IS IT GOING TO CONTINUE ON THE 25% PER YEAR ANNUAL INCREASE? AND THEN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND SOME OF THE THE, THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE LAST ELECTION COULD IMPACT SOME OF WHAT COMES OUT OF LEGISLATURE AND WHAT CITIES ARE ABLE TO DO WITH THEIR TAXES AND TAX RATES. AND IT'S SOME UNKNOWNS THAT ARE THAT COULD BE REALISTIC IN A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE CITIES. AND SO I WANT TO APPROACH THE BOND ELECTION WITH A GOOD EYE ON THAT THAT THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE THAT THEY'RE IN TUNE WITH SOME OF THE UNKNOWNS THAT WE COULD BE FACING THAT I DON'T WANT US TO DIG OURSELVES INTO A HOLE ON SOME STUFF THAT COULD BE DONE LATER. YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD WAIT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE BRING IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WANTING. SO I THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN AS WE GO INTO THIS IS THAT WE DO IT SMARTLY AND WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE HAVING A DRAW BACK LATER. AND SO, OKAY, SO, SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS OBVIOUSLY WE GOT SOME. WELL, MAYOR PRO TEM GO AHEAD MAYOR. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, OBVIOUSLY THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. I MEAN, I KNOW READING, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK AS WELL ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY. ME PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF CHEW ON IT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHERE MY COLLEAGUE KIND OF SEE WHERE EVERYTHING TOTALS OUT TO. THIS IS Y'ALL'S DEAL. IT AIN'T MINE. I KNOW. I JUST, I JUST, WE, WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC WORKS GENERAL PUBLIC WORKS DOWNTOWN. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO KIND OF GO HOME AFTER AND TALLY UP WHAT EVERYONE KIND OF SAYS. AND SO YOU WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. YEAH, I THINK I THINK IT TELLS US IF I MEAN, IF YOU CAN, IF THERE'S ANY IS YOU SAID INFLATION IS BAKED IN IN ABOUT 18% ON THE BIG PROJECTS HERE IS THAT I THINK YOU SAID 6% A YEAR IN THREE YEARS. IS THAT SOMEWHERE AROUND THEIR BALLPARK NOW? IS THAT BASED ON A NEXT YEAR STARTER? IS THAT BASED ON TODAY, SO TO SPEAK? BUT NO, IT'D BE IF WE CAN START A CONSTRUCTION IN 29 OR 30. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY THREE YEARS OF INFLATION. SO THIS ADJUSTS FOR STARTING IT, THEN BAKE AND THEN TO SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU ROUND LIKE IF WE SAID, YEAH, WE WANT TO DO FIRE STATION ONE. YEAH, WHATEVER THAT IS. AND IT'S 24 MILLION. WOULD IT BE POTENTIALLY LESS IF IT WAS APPROVED AND WE STARTED ON IT SOONER. OH YEAH. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHEN I LOOK AT NUMBERS. YEAH. NO. YEAH, THAT TYPE OF THING. YEAH FOR SURE. I DON'T WANT TO. MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? I DO, SURE. I ALSO DO FEEL THE NEED OF US HAVING TO BE PROACTIVE ON SOME THINGS AND NOT REACTIVE TO WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING. AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I DO WOULD LIKE I DO THINK THAT FIRE STATION, YOU KNOW, FIVE RIGHT NOW MIGHT BE A PROJECT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT BOND JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS. AND I'M SPEAKING PERSONALLY, I'M NOT SPEAKING AS A COUNCIL ON IN TERMS OF EVEN FIRE STATION TWO, I THINK IS FAR FETCHED IN TERMS OF I IN REALITY, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING TO ME, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THEM. I'M SPEAKING TO THE CITIZENS MOSTLY, BUT I WILL YOU KNOW, EVEN FIRE STATION TWO BUILDING A BRAND NEW FIRE STATION TWO AND MOVING IT ALL OUT. I THINK WHERE WE ARE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP AND POTENTIALLY, I THINK IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS DOWN THE LINE, WILL BE BETTER EQUIPPED WITH WHAT WE HAVE COMING INTO THE CITY THAT HOPEFULLY AND POTENTIALLY THAT WILL BE EASIER FOR FOR THIS TO KIND OF HAPPEN. I DO, I WOULD LIKE PERSONALLY TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT FIRE STATION TWO AND FIRE STATION ONE NEED IN TERMS OF RENOVATION ADDING MORE BATHROOMS AND WHATNOT, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES NOT SAY SO. I'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT AND KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT. I AM IN FAVOR OF THE GENERATORS. I DO FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT PARKING EXPANSION BECAUSE YOU MAY MENTION FIVE MORE TIMES THAT IT STARTED. WHAT IS USING IT AND YOU MAY CHARGE ME VERY SOON. [02:05:03] SO I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION THAT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO REVENUE BOND RIGHT. USER FEES. AND I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, IF I'M CORRECT AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING IN TERMS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WERE AT CAPACITY IN TERMS OF THE GROWTH OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO IF WE DO THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT, DOES THAT KIND OF. TAPS IT OFF IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD, OR IS THERE MORE DOWN THE LINE JUST RENOVATING, OR DO WE NEED MORE SPACE OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? BECAUSE IF I'M CORRECT, WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO RENOVATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AND KEEP THAT BUILDING AFTER 2016, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT WAS TOLD THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AND HERE WE ARE NOT EVEN TEN YEARS DOWN THE LINE. WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND WE'RE HAVING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. SO I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT NOW AND THEN MAKE ANOTHER INVESTMENT LATER, AND THEN MAKE A BIG INVESTMENT DOWN THE ROAD IF WE CAN. IF WE HAVE TO DO IT NOW, THEN LET'S BITE THE BULLET NOW VERSUS HAVING TO DO IT DOWN THE LINE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE MENTALITY FOR ME. SO I'D KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WHERE IS THAT $2.5 MILLION BEING INVESTED AND DOWN THE LINE? IS IT GOING TO NEED MORE OR THIS IS KIND OF THE TOP PART. THAT'S MY COMMENTS. AND I DO FEEL LIKE BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THE BOND, I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO START THE PROCESS OF I, I, I UNDERSTAND CHEWING IT AND FEELING IT AND KIND OF READING IT. WE'VE HAD THIS FOR OVER A WEEK NOW. WE JUST NEED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE. SO NEXT TIME WE'RE IN FRONT OF, WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE, WE'RE MOVING THE LINE DOWN THE LINE ONE BY BY ANOTHER LINE, AND THEN START PICKING UP THE BOND COMMITTEES AND START PROCESSING THIS BOND BECAUSE NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE AROUND THE CORNER. THAT'S THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IF WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SOUNDS RIGHT, THEN IT WOULD BE SEEING WHAT ALL WE COULD GET. YOU GUYS HAVE IT AS ALT ONE AND THEN FIRE STATION ONE. ALT. IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO TACK ON SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND WHAT IT WOULD BE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE INTERIOR STUFF, IF INDEED WE'RE NOT GOING TO TACKLE THE TOP PROJECT THERE. SO JUST WHAT THAT WOULD ADD, AND I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY HAVE GENERAL IDEAS, BUT JUST KIND OF GET THAT AND SEND IT OUT AND TIMELINES. MAYOR YOU KNOW, IF WE DO INVEST $1 MILLION TODAY, YOU KNOW, IS THAT GOING TO AND I'M NOT SAYING I'M GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT IS THAT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY TEN YEARS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, UP TO TEN YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD WITH THIS TYPE OF SETUP? OR ARE WE GOING TO SIT HERE AFTER RENOVATING PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING TEN YEARS LATER AND HAVING TO FIGURE OUT TO MOVE SOME PARTS OUT OF IT AND NOW DO A BIGGER INVESTMENT? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIT IN. OKAY, GOOD. AND JUST TO THROW THIS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME WE GET, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY OF FIRE STATION TWO. AND THERE'S NEVER GOING TO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, THAT THE MONEY WE ACQUIRE FROM THAT SALE IS NOT GOING TO PUT A DENT IN WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO, TO, TO RELOCATE THAT FIRE STATION. I THINK THE LAST OFFER WAS A FEW MILLION. SO THERE'S JUST, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO EVEN TECHNICALLY COVER THE RENOVATION. YOU PROBABLY BE ABLE TO MAYBE DESIGN, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S ABOUT IT. SO. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, LET'S SLIDE TO PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH. THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE HERE. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN, IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND WE'VE DISCUSSED CURRENTLY OBVIOUSLY SAXY ROAD FROM THE CITY LIMITS DOWN TO THE BRIDGE. OR THROUGH THE BRIDGE, I GUESS I'D SAY. OVER THE BRIDGE. BUT I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO START SINGING THE SONG TO GRANDMA'S HOUSE. WE GO. THAT WOULD BE IN COORDINATION WITH SAXY SANIN BOULEVARD FROM 78 TO 544. IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE. SPECIFICALLY WITH SAND AND WANTING TO SELL OFF THEIR PROPERTY. THEY'VE ALREADY SOLD OFF ONE PIECE TO Y'ALL. I THINK THERE WAS A ZONING REQUEST FOR ALL THE REST THAT'S WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH. SO THAT THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGER PRIORITIES. ALLEN EAST FROM STATE HIGHWAY 78 TO SOUTH BALLARD WOULD PROBABLY JUST, IN MY OPINION, WOULD BE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE DONE THE REST [02:10:03] OF THESE. YOU KNOW, HOOPER ROAD, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TACKLE DOWN THERE. STEEL ROAD IS SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MISCELLANEOUS STREET AND ALLEY REPAIRS THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE CURRENT BOND THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH STREET STRIPING SIDEWALKS, WE'VE PUT IN A CURRENT BOND. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME SIGNAL LIGHTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THEN THE BOTTOM THERE IS, IS WE'VE DISCUSSED DOWNTOWN FOR SEE, I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS, SO PROBABLY 25 YEARS. WE'VE DISCUSSED DOWNTOWN. RENEE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE 20 AND SHE'S DISCUSSED IT FOR 20 YEARS. SO IT'S BACK ON THE TABLE HERE. WE'VE HAD THE STUDIES DONE. TOMMY MET WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO KIND OF TAKE THE REASONABLE OPTION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO Y'ALL SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHICH IS NOT DETAINING WATER UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT AT THE CROSS CHURCH. THAT WAS NOT THE REASONABLE OPTION. SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TOTAL TO POINT OUT THE THE TWO ALLEYS ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE EAST SIDE THAT'S TO PUT ALL THE POWER LINES UNDERGROUND AND TO WIDEN THOSE AND, AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED DOWN THERE. SO NOW FROM A FIRE PLAN BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT INTO ALL THAT AND THAT'S MORE UP YOUR ALLEY THAN ME. IF WE WERE TO DO ONLY BALLARD WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT THE ALLEYS, CORRECT? OR DOES IT JUST PREVENT THE LIGHTING? WELL, IT'S SPLIT INTO. I'M TAKING THE THREE MIDDLE ONES THERE. IT'S GOT THE BALLARD 78 TO BROWN, AND THEN IT'S GOT THE ALLEYS WEST SIDE AND EAST SIDE. OH, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH ALL THAT. SO WE HAVE A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING. I I'M GETTING SOME INTERESTING LOOKS FROM BEHIND. THAT'S OKAY. BUT THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN IN ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS. DO WHAT? THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN IN ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY, BUT WE HAVE A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING NOW. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN THE 46 MILLION THAT WE'VE GOT. HOW MUCH OF THAT 46 MILLION IS UNSPENT FROM THE 2020? OH NO, NO, THAT'S PROPOSED NEW SPENDING. IT JUST SUMS UP THAT TOTAL ALL THOSE PROJECTS ABOVE IT. SO THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST ALL OF THIS MONEY ADDED TOGETHER. IT'S NOT MONEY THAT EXISTS. SACHSE ROAD. THE 6 MILLION FOR SEXY ROAD. I KNOW WE HAD 3.5 MILLION OR SO SET ASIDE. SO IS THAT 6 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE 3.5 MILLION? SO SEXY ROAD IS REALLY 9.5 MILLION. YES, SIR. AND SO THE 12 MILLION FOR MISCELLANEOUS STREET REPAIRS IS IN ADDITION TO THE 12 MILLION WE HAVE SET ASIDE OR WE'VE SPENT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS IN THE. 21 BOND, BUT YEAH, WE'VE WE WE'LL, WE'LL EITHER SPEND IT OR ARE SPENDING IT. AND IT WAS JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT ON MY YEARS. IT WAS WAS IT WAS 23 WASN'T IT. WAS IT 21. 21. IT WAS 21. OKAY. MAN. IT GOES QUICK, DOESN'T IT? OKAY. SO JUST MAKING SURE. SO THIS IS JUST THAT MONEY IN 21 FOR THE MISCELLANEOUS STREET AND ALLEY REPAIRS AND THE MONEY FOR SIDEWALK. OH, LET ME SEE HERE. OH, IT MAY BE IT'S NOT ALL BROKEN OUT. OH, STREET AND ALLEY REPAIRS THAT 12.5. THAT 12.2 MILLION. THAT'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL MONEY. MONEY ALLOCATED FOR STREET REPAIRS ACROSS. THERE'S. IT'S NOT ALLOCATED IN ONE SPECIFIC PROJECT, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHICH WE'VE I DON'T REMEMBER TOMMY WAS THERE 10 MILLION IN THE CURRENT ONE. SO IN THE 2021 BOND THERE WAS 10 MILLION THAT WE WILL THAT WE BEEN SPENDING ABOUT 2 MILLION A YEAR TO DO VARIOUS ROAD PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH THAT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. AND I KNOW TOMMY'S SITTING BACK THERE SOME OF THOSE STREET ALLEY REPAIRS AND STRIPING. I MEAN. IS THERE. I KNOW WE HAVE A CURRENT CONTRACT. I DON'T REMEMBER THE AMOUNT. I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY TO POTENTIALLY TRY TO TAKE ADD SOME CREW, [02:15:06] DROP A CONTRACT AND TAKE MORE OF THAT ON OURSELVES THROUGH THE GENERAL BUDGET? WE STILL NEED THE MONEY FOR THE MATERIALS, RIGHT. BUT I'M ASSUMING THIS IS PAYING SOMEONE OUTSIDE TO DO IT THOUGH, RIGHT? BOTH. OKAY. IT'S NOT JUST WE CAN'T DO IT ALL IN-HOUSE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE GET THAT BREAKDOWN ON HOW MUCH OF IT WOULD BE SUPPLIES, ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS A WAY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MANPOWER THROUGH THAT KIND OF A SWAP? SURE. JUST AS AN INVESTIGATORY THING. BECAUSE I KNOW TOMMY'S CREW FROM PAST REPORTS DOES ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH FOR THE SAME DOLLAR. SIDEWALKS, NOT SIDEWALKS. WELL, I SAW I SAW THEM ON FACEBOOK WITH THEIR ALLEY REPAIR. THEY MADE SOMEONE REALLY HAPPY. THEY ARE DOING SOME SMALLER PROJECTS, BUT NOT NOT BIGGER. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE ARE ALL OF THESE BIG PROJECTS. AND I DON'T MEAN THE STRIPING, I MEAN THE STREET AND ALLEY, OR MAYBE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF THAT STRIPING THE STRIPING IS. WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO DO STRIPING. DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT RUNS AGAIN, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW IT NOW. JUST OH, I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST RESTRIPED COUNTRY CLUB AND IT COST US $150,000. RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHY I JUST SO TO A COMPANY OR WE DID IT. YES. BUT THE STRIPING MACHINE I THINK WAS 100,000, YOU REMEMBER, FOR THE MACHINE BIG ENOUGH TO DO THIS THAT WE PROBABLY. OKAY, OKAY. AND THAT'S TO USE BECAUSE WHAT THEY THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY HAVE TODAY JUST LAYS DOWN REGULAR PAINT. SO IT COMES UP. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE WHAT'S IT CALLED. TOMMY THERMO. THANK YOU THERMOPLASTIC. IT WAS THERMO SOMETHING. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO PUT THAT DOWN. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE GET IS STRIPE STREET STRIPING AROUND HERE. I MEAN, BUT WE JUST DON'T. WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EQUIPMENT COST JUST BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THAT MIGHT FIX IT, BUT THEY'LL GET WORN OUT AND, AND IT MAY BE CHEAPER TO BUY THE EQUIPMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THE COST OF THE PAINT EITHER. SO. BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO ALL THAT JUST AS A, AS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT JUST. SURE. IS THERE A POTENTIAL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DON'T WANT TO GET STRIPING DONE, BUT 100%. IF WE CAN PASS A, A BOND THAT'S PART OF THAT AND GETS THE EQUIPMENT IN-HOUSE TO WHERE IN THE FUTURE WE STILL HAVE THAT VEHICLE FOR A DECADE AND WE CAN KEEP DOING WELL. AND YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO THE P, FCOS FOR THE STRIPING EQUIPMENT NOW, BECAUSE IT WOULD LAST LONGER THAN TEN YEARS. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S A THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. BUT TO YOUR POINT, IT'S SOMETHING WE HEAR ABOUT. SO IT WOULD POTENTIALLY SET THAT DEPARTMENT UP TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS. I KNOW THERE'D BE A LOT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT YOU TACKLE ONE AT A TIME AND EVENTUALLY THEN THEY CAN KEEP UP WITH IT. INSTEAD OF US HAVING TO GO OUT AND PAY 150. SO I KNOW I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN TOMMY'S DOING HIS PUBLIC WORKS PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS THAT HE'S GOING TO UPDATE ON IS THE CONCRETE. OKAY. THE CREW AND SOME OF THAT, IT'LL BE EITHER. WHEN ARE YOU DOING IT, TOMMY? MAY. MAY. SO THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY, HE'LL PROVIDE ALL THAT UPDATE AND HE CAN INCLUDE ALL THIS IN THERE AS WELL. SO. NO, I'LL I'LL ADD BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR ME ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE, GIVEN THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PUBLIC REALM AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SANDIN HAS TO GET DONE. THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BECOME A VERY, VERY BUSY ROADWAY WITH THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN OFF OF IT. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A QUESTION THAT THAT NEEDS TO, TO HAPPEN. SO I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. BUT MAYOR PRO TEM I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR. I THINK SANDY BOULEVARD HAS TO BE A PRIORITY ON THIS. THE REST OF THE STUFF, I THINK WE CAN WALK IT THROUGH AND TAKE A LOOK. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD SEX. DOES THAT INCLUDE A BRIDGE? YES. BUT SEXY FULL BRIDGE OR HALFWAY THROUGH? NO, IT'S ALL ON OUR. IT'S OUR THAT'S ALL ON OUR SIDE, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S THE. AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO GET THIS DONE. WELL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN DESIGN RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD TRY TO DO IS. PARTNER WITH THEM TO JUST DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME. WITH THAT SAID, WITH THE BRIDGE AND THEN BEING ON DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY POTENTIALLY THEN COMING THROUGH WITH SEXY ROAD, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC ON 78. I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW SOME OF THAT TO HIT BUSCH WITHOUT HITTING 78. [02:20:06] THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A GROUP I MAY TRY TO TALK TO ABOUT THAT AND ENLIST TOMMY BACK THERE TO MAYBE WE CAN TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND PRESENT OVER TO RTC, SINCE THAT IS A TRULY REGIONAL CONNECTION. IF WE HAVE SOME OF THE MONEY FOR NORTH, THEY HAVE SOUTH AND THE BRIDGE IS ON OUR SIDE, BUT IT'S A FUNDING TYPE OF THING. IT MIGHT BE WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME MATCHING SINCE BOTH SIDES ALREADY HAVE SOME MONEY. IF IT'S LOOKED AT AS A SINGLE PROJECT. SO NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I JUST IF I DON'T SAY IT, I'LL FORGET IT. THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT. SO HOPEFULLY MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER ON THAT AND SEE ABOUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE THERE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE QUICK TO LET, WHICH THEY'RE OFTEN LOOKING FOR. SO AND THEN, YEAH, JUST ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE STRIPING AND STREET REPAIR IN GENERAL? FOR ME, I THINK I'LL BE HONEST, NONE OF THE PROJECTS ON HERE ARE BAD PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE MADE SOME MAJOR INVESTMENTS FOR WHAT WE'RE CARRYING OF DEBT INTO A LOT OF MAJOR ROADWAYS. SO I THINK A LOT OF THOSE MAY HAVE TO JUST KIND OF BE LOWER PRIORITY, NOT UNIMPORTANT, JUST LOWER PRIORITY THIS TIME AROUND WITH, I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE PARK THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN BUILT YET THAT WILL BE STARTING UP TOO. SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 THERE. AS FAR AS DOWNTOWN, THAT'S THE OTHER BIG ONE. SORRY. I JUST KIND OF SEPARATED THOSE. I WOULD FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD PROBABLY GET RID OF OR PUT A LOWER PRIORITY ON THE DUAL TURN LANE THERE FOR 78 IN BALLARD, AND WE'LL HAVE IT AS A SINGLE LANE THROUGH DOWNTOWN, I THINK IS WHAT WE ALL SETTLED ON AFTER A LONG CONVERSATION. IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO, BUT WITH THE PRICE TAG AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THERE'S JUST HIGHER PRIORITIES. I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM I MEAN, I'D LOVE, I, I THINK THE REGIONAL DETENTION AND BALLARD FROM 78 TO BROWN WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME TO GET DONE BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THE, THE HEARTBEAT THERE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA CURRENTLY, ESPECIALLY WITH US GETTING BIRMINGHAM DONE ON THE OTHER SIDE AS FAR AS THE ALLEYS, AGAIN, IT COMES DOWN TO MONEY AND HOW MUCH DEBT WE WANT TO TAKE OUT AND WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IT. SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S I'M GOING TO ROUND IT UP ABOUT $15 MILLION FOR THE TWO ALLEYWAYS. THAT WOULD BE TACKED ON. I THINK FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO DO THE 19.5 ISH FOR THE DRAINAGE AND OR THE THE REGIONAL DETENTION AND BALLARD ITSELF. AND I KNOW THE EDC HAS TALKED ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL STRIPING AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO ON SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS TO KIND OF HELP OUT. BUT I JUST, WELL, WHAT WE USE IS CHEAP SO WE CAN DO ALL THAT STRIPING WELL, BUT IT'S, I MEAN. I'D LOVE TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO GET THE ALLEYS DONE, BUT IF I'M PICKING BETWEEN THE ALLEYS AND OTHER PROJECT, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETING THINGS THAT ALL NEED ATTENTION. SO. I'LL ASK FIRST IS EVERYONE WOULD, WOULD, WOULD THE COUNCIL LIKE TO SEE THE TWO ITEMS I PUT FORWARD BALLARD ITSELF AND THE REGIONAL DETENTION FOR DOWNTOWN I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION DURING THE ONE WAY STREET ON BALLARD DURING OUR DISCUSSION. AND MAYBE I'M JUST I'M FORGOT. WE WERE GOING TO USE THE ALLEYWAYS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, IS THAT CORRECT? SOME OF THE ALLEYWAYS WERE GOING TO BE USED FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. AND IF I'M CORRECT, AND AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK AND LISTEN. BUT THE I GUESS THE ELECTRICAL POLES AND SOME OF THE SOME OF THAT STUFF WAS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. AND WE DID NOT NEED TO PUT IT UNDERGROUND. SO THIS IS JUST AN ADDED PIECE TO IT. OR I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. NO, IT'LL ALL HAVE TO BE PUT UNDERGROUND IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUILDINGS. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WIDTH. THIS IS. AND WIDENING THE. WHEN THEY EXPAND THEM, THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE OUT THE POLES. SO IT MIGHT AS WELL GO UNDERGROUND. BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING MR. PARKER ABOUT EARLIER WAS FROM HIS STATEMENT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK OUT HOW THEY COULD POTENTIALLY USE BALLARD. FOR THE ACCESS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE THE ALLEYS, ALLEYWAYS, I THINK LONG AT THE TIME THEY THEY [02:25:02] WEREN'T READY TO COMMIT TO BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEY'VE SINCE HAD MORE CONVERSATIONS. AND THAT WAS WHY I ASKED IF THOSE COULD BE SPLIT OFF GIVEN PRIOR, BUT WITH WHAT MR. PARKER HAS SAID YEAH, THIS IS THE, THE ALLEYS WOULD HAVE TO BE WIDENED TO A FIRE LANE AND THEN THE UNDERGROUND BECAUSE THERE'S OVERHEAD POWER LINES. SO THEY ALL THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT UNDERGROUND. SO INSTEAD THEY WOULD UTILIZE MAIN BALLARD INSTEAD FOR ACCESS. IT MIGHT JUST REQUIRE US TO NOT BE ABLE TO STRING LIGHTS AND SOME STUFF LIKE THAT FOR THE TIME BEING, OR POTENTIALLY REPLACE A STRING OF LIGHTS. GOD FORBID. THERE'S A. WE HAVE A NEW UNDERSTANDING ON THAT AS WELL. MAYOR. OKAY. WE'VE COME TO A MUTUAL AGREEMENT. SO I AGAIN, I'D LOVE TO DO ALL OF IT. I JUST, I JUST KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT DOING THE ALLEYWAYS IS ANOTHER $15 MILLION. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S TONS. I'M ASSUMING THIS WOULD BE STEP ONE OF DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION. STEP TWO, I MEAN, BIRMINGHAM STEP ONE. AND THEN, YEAH, I'M PROPOSING A STEP TWO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE EVERYTHING. AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A STEP THREE DOWN THE ROAD THAT GETS TO THE ALLEYWAYS AND THINGS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE EVEN MAKE A PARTNERSHIP DEAL WITH OUR FRIENDS FROM THE THREE LETTER AGENCY IN THE FUTURE FOR, FOR SOME OF THAT STUFF, DEPENDING ON HOW EVERYTHING SHAKES OUT IN THE AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP HAVING A BOND, I WOULD I WOULD LEAN TOWARD INFRASTRUCTURE ABOVE ALL ELSE IN PRIORITIZING SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS, EVEN THE ONES THAT SEEM TO FALL LOWER DOWN ON THE LIST JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SO LOW ON THE LIST FOR SO LONG. FROM YOUR SIDEWALKS, OF COURSE, THE ALLEY REPAIRS, EVEN STEEL ROAD, VINCENT ROAD. I THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO END UP PLAYING A LONG TERM BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THE SAND AND BOULEVARD BEING UP AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT ALL THAT INCLUDES. OKAY. WITH COUNCILMAN STRING. FOR ME, STAUNTON'S A PRIORITY. YOU KNOW, I'M WITH COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO BE PRIORITIZED. PRIMARILY, THE DOWNTOWN STUFF DOES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LANGUISHING FOR DECADES, PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, AND IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE. DETERIORATE. SO I'M INTERESTED IN THE MIDDLE THREE ITEMS. I DON'T THINK I REALLY CARE ABOUT DUAL LEFT TURN LANE RIGHT NOW. ON THE FIRST ITEM, REGIONAL DETENTION IF WE CAN HANDLE IT. BUT YEAH, AND THEN FOR THE STREET STRIPING, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR HOW MANY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD. MAYBE TOMMY DOES HOW MANY LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY. FOR STRIPING. OH MAN. AT ONE POINT I THINK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LINEAR FEET. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, YEAH, LIKE DRIVING TO HOUSTON BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY LANES WITH ALL THESE THOROUGHFARES. SO THAT'S EVERY STREET IN THE CITY. BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE 544 AND 78, WE DON'T DRIVE BECAUSE THERE'S STATE HIGHWAY. OKAY. SO WE CAN CUT THEM OUT. COUNTRY CLUB, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OF THE MAJOR ARTERIES THAT ARE ASIDE FROM THAT, YOU GOT COUNTRY CLUB AND BROWN AND ART MACMILLAN, STONE EAST 55. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE ARE QUITE A FEW. BIRMINGHAM. THERE'S A LOT. SO IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO EXPLORE THE STRIPING WITH THE THERMOPLASTIC TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT IN-HOUSE BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING BIG. AND YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME DECENT STRIPING, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS REFLECTIVE, REFLECTIVE THERMOPLASTIC STRIPING BECAUSE THE OLDER YOU GET. BUT MAYBE I'M JUST SAYING. BUT WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO MAYBE LOOKING AT THE SPO FOR THAT WHERE, WHERE WE DO THE SHORTER TERM. YEAH. AND LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT AGAIN. SO COMING BACK, WHICH WAY IT GOES IT SWIZZLE ON WHICH FUNDING THING. BUT I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD HELP FREE US UP FOR OTHER STUFF ON HERE ANYWAY WITH THE BONDS. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ON THIS SLIDE HERE IS, IS PRIMARILY THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO SUPPORT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT KEEP DRIVING THROUGH THIS PLACE. I DID WANT TO ADD ONE THING BECAUSE I DID EMAIL IT TO MR. PARKER. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT WE JUST HADN'T GOTTEN THEM. YEAH, I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE A NUMBER, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IS STREET LIGHTING HERE. I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNTRY CLUB BROWN, SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS GOING IN. ET CETERA. THAT OUR RESPONSE BECAUSE I THINK 544 AND 78 FALL STATE RESPONSIBILITY. RIGHT. IT'S A THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS STREET LIGHTS HAVE NEVER BEEN A PART OF THE PROJECT. [02:30:03] THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSIDERED AN ALTERNATE WHEN THEY'VE BEEN BID HERE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EVEN SURE LIKE COUNTRY CLUB IF IT HAS CONDUIT SOME, SOME STREETS HAVE CONDUIT AND BASES, SOME STREETS MAY JUST HAVE CONDUIT EAST. FM 544 THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING. SO TOMMY'S THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE ON WHAT'S TAKEN US TIME TO GET THE NUMBERS BACK. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AT OPPORTUNITIES TO EITHER DO A COMBINATION OF ELECTRIC LIGHTS AND SOLAR OR ALL SOLAR OR JUST KIND OF DEPENDING ON WHAT EXISTS, WHATEVER THE MOST COST EFFICIENT WAY IS TO, TO GET THAT DONE. BUT YEAH, WE'RE WORKING, WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO I, I ASKED THEM TO DO THAT JUST BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS AND FRANKLY, IT'S NOT JUST CITIZENS, BUT IT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR VEHICULAR INCIDENTS TEND TO OCCUR. AND I'M SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY WOULD RATHER BE OUT IN THE LIGHT. I KNOW THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF BLOCKING, BUT IT GETS DARK OUT THERE AT 3 A.M.. I USED TO HAVE AN ARGUMENT WITH THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER ABOUT THAT ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS, SO, BUT I THINK IT WOULD SERVE A GOOD PURPOSE ALL THE WAY AROUND FROM SURE, HELP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INDIVIDUALS WITH LIGHTING. IT WOULD HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF MORE AND MORE NEIGHBORHOODS BEING ABLE TO SEE CARS COMING. BECAUSE IF I HAD A IF I HAD 100 BUCKS FOR EVERY TIME THAT I FIND SOMEONE WITHOUT A LIGHT OR WITHOUT THEIR LIGHTS ON THAT, YEAH, I'D PROBABLY, I'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO AFFORD A REALLY NICE PRESENT TO MYSELF AT THIS POINT. SO AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER OPTION. SO YEAH, SO TO KIND OF JUST WRAP THIS UP AGAIN, I DON'T WELL, I'VE KIND OF GOT YOUR PRIORITIES HERE WITH THE EXCLUSION OF, OF NEEDING MORE INFORMATION ON PUBLIC SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A THRESHOLD AMOUNT THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO TRY TO STAY AROUND. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THAT THIS EVENING, THAT'S FINE. A ROUGH ESTIMATE WITH EXCLUDING THE FIRE STATIONS YOU'RE LOOKING BASED ON KIND OF WHAT I'VE PUT DOWN HERE ON PAPER IS ABOUT 105 MILLION WITH WHAT? THAT'S THE ANIMAL SHELTER PARK. AND AGAIN, SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, IT'LL COME DOWN BECAUSE OF FUNDING SOURCES AND INFLATION. THE ANIMAL SHELTER, PARKS, PUBLIC WORKS, EAST FORK, AVALON FOUNDERS, COMMUNITY TURF, PARKING LIGHTS, PUBLIC SAFETY GENERATORS, SAND AND SACHSE ROAD. AND THEN I PUT 20 MILLION IN DOWNTOWN FOR BALLARD HIGHWAY 78 TO BROWN AND THE, AND THE REGIONAL DETENTION. I DID NOT INCLUDE THE TWO ALLEYS IN THAT 20 MILLION, SO IT'D BE ANOTHER 15 MILLION. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH, WITH WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO DISCUSS THAT AMONGST YOURSELVES. IF NOT, I'LL MOVE ON. I DON'T THINK, I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD HELP AND WE CAN JUST KIND OF, I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL TIGHTEN SOME OF THOSE UP. YES, SIR. FOR US. GIVE US A LITTLE BETTER. AND WE IT AT LEAST KIND OF STREAMLINES SOME OF THE STUFF MOVING FORWARD. SO YOU ALL AREN'T CHASING ALL THE. WELL, WE DON'T WANT THE BOND COMMITTEE TO BE CHASING A BUNCH OF THINGS EITHER. SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOOD TO JUST GOOD TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT. AND WE VALUE THEIR INPUT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE NOT MAKING A FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO A BALLOT THIS EVENING. SO. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THEN I'M SORRY WAS I'M SORRY. NOPE. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO THE ONLY OTHER THING WOULD BE IN ORDER TO GET THIS ON THE NOVEMBER BOND THE BALLOT, WE WILL HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE BOND COMMITTEE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME IN 21. JUST A FEW OF MY NOTES FOR Y'ALL'S CONSIDERATION. EACH COUNCIL MEMBER PROVIDED TWO, TWO MEMBERS TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. I WOULD JUST PERSONALLY, I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND. IN ADDITION TO THOSE. 14 I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THE PNC CHAIR AND EITHER THE EDC PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. AND THEN THE REQUIREMENTS WERE THEY HAD TO BE A REGISTERED VOTER AND A CITIZEN. AND THOSE NAMES WERE. LISTED WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS READ DURING THAT COUNCIL MEETING DURING THE. [02:35:01] 21. SO AND THEN WE PUT IN THERE AS WELL THAT THEY'D MEET A MINIMUM OF FOUR TIMES. THE WAY I KIND OF HAD THIS BROKEN OUT IS IF WE DID KIND OF THE FACILITIES, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, PARKS, ETC., THE PARKS AND REC ANY PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. NO, I THINK I WAS GOING TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY AS FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS AND REC FACILITIES. OH, AND THEN A WRAP UP WITH KIND OF THEM GETTING THEIR THOUGHTS TOGETHER. ONE THING THAT AND THEN THE, THE, WE PUT IN THERE, THE DATE THAT, THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED BACK TO THE COUNCIL, THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND ONE THING I KNOW THE MAYOR MENTIONED LAST TIME, I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. IF, IF SOME OF Y'ALL WERE INVOLVED, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING A QUORUM, BUT I'VE PARTICIPATED IN OTHER BOND COMMITTEES AND I THINK IT GOES A LONG WAY FOR US, THE ELECTED PEOPLE, TO BE THE FACE OF THE BOND INSTEAD OF IT BEING A STAFF PROJECT. THIS IS. THIS IS. Y'ALL'S. PROCESS Y'ALL'S PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD AND WHERE WE'D LIKE TO GO. SO AT THE VERY MINIMUM, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR PRO TEM COULD BE THERE AT THE MEETINGS TO KIND OF FACILITATE THAT. THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE REALLY IS TO PROVIDE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS. SO BUT THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR THIS EVENING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE. SO DO YOU WANT TO BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE? YEAH. WELL, I'M ASSUMING AFTER ALL THE COMMENTS. YES, WE'D LIKE SOMETHING AGAIN. IT DOESN'T ESTABLISH IT DOESN'T ESTABLISH A DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT JUST ESTABLISHES CREATING A COMMITTEE. CORRECT. SO, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU. MAYOR. WHAT DOES OUR CHARTER SAY ABOUT THE BOND COMMITTEE? WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE BOND COMMITTEE? MR.. I'LL ANSWER THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE CHARTER. I DON'T THINK THERE'S SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT THE BOND COMMITTEE. SO THAT'S ESTABLISHED BY AN ORDINANCE EACH TIME IF COUNCIL DESIRES. AND YOU CAN SET PARAMETERS IN THAT ORDINANCE. SO WHEN DID WE WHEN DID WE ESTABLISH THE ORDINANCE FOR IT. SO LAST TIME FOR THE 21 WE PASSED THE ORDINANCE IN ON MARCH 23RD OF. 21 OUTLINING BASICALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, WE NEED TO KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MEMBERS YOU WOULD WANT ON THERE BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF IT AND THE MAKEUP OF THE MEMBERS, BUT THE MEMBERS NAMES ARE NOT LISTED ACTUALLY ON THE ORDINANCE. AND THAT THEY MET A MINIMUM OF FOUR TIMES. AND THEN BROUGHT THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IN JUNE WAS NEXT MEETING THEORETICALLY SHOULD BE GETTING AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHED. SO THE NEXT MEETING WE WOULD BRING THIS ORDINANCE BACK SO THAT THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD CHANGE PROPOSED THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL. AT THE JUNE 23RD, 2026 MEETING, THE COUNCIL WOULD APPOINT 16 MEMBERS TWO MEMBERS DESIGNATED BY THE MAYOR AND EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, PLUS THE PNC CHAIR AND THE EDC PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT. THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS RECOMMENDATION. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW TONIGHT TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE TO BRING BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. EACH MEMBER SHALL BE A CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF WYLIE AND SHALL BE A REGISTERED VOTER. WE CAN ALSO ADD THOSE NEW QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE ABOUT AND NOT AN EMPLOYEE SPOUSE OR THAT WAS NOT IN THERE LAST TIME, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO IN PLAY FOR ALL OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO THEORETICALLY THOSE COVER THIS UNLESS YOU'LL EXCLUDE THEM AND THEN MEET A MINIMUM OF FOUR TIMES. AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW TONIGHT IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR APPROVAL AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN WHEN THE ORDINANCE, IF IT'S APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD EACH MEMBER WOULD LIST OUT THEIR TWO APPOINTEES IN THE MOTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. WE DON'T NEED THE NAMES, SO WE WON'T NEED THE NAMES NEXT MEETING. YES, YOU WILL NEED THE NAMES. YOU'LL NEED THE NAMES. NEXT MEETING. WE DON'T NEED THEM TONIGHT. AND IS THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING WE DIDN'T HAVE NAMES. WE CAME BACK WITH NAMES. THEY'RE NOT IN THE ORDINANCE. BUT WHEN YOU WHEN THE MOTION IS READ TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE IN THAT MOTION, IT LISTED EVERY SINGLE MEMBER'S NAME IN IT, IN THE MOTION. OKAY. OKAY. IT JUST SEEMS CART BEFORE THE HORSE. [02:40:04] AND I UNDERSTAND GETTING THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE IN ORDER TO BE READY FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER THAT QUICKLY WHEN WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND AND WE'VE NOT EVEN GONE OVER THE DEBT YET. I'M I'M AT. JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS THE RIGHT PROCESS. BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT BEFORE, AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE WANT TO DO IT THE WAY WE DID BEFORE, THEN. OKAY, I'LL GO WITH THAT. AND THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THE COMMITTEE WOULD NOT BE TO CLARIFY. COMMITTEE WOULD NOT BE MEETING NEXT MEETING. IT'S JUST APPROVING THE ORDINANCE, ESTABLISHING THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE WOULD SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THAT BOND COMMITTEE AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS APPROVED. RIGHT. BUT NOMINATING THE NAMES FOR THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE NEEDED AT THAT TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, WERE YOU WERE YOU HERE LAST MEETING? I DON'T REMEMBER. I WAS HERE LAST MEETING. OKAY. I'LL SEND YOU THE THE PRESENTATION THAT HAS ALL THAT IN IT. AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION ON THE THE BOND AND STUFF THAT WE WENT OVER LAST MEETING. AND THAT WAS IN LAST MEETING. YEAH. I HAD ALL THE DATES, ALL THE DEBT WHEN IT FALLS OFF. I SENT AN EMAIL EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT HAS A SPREADSHEET. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. HAS THE INDIVIDUAL DEBT THAT FALLS. THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT PULLED UP AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD QUESTIONS ON. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS. THAT'S WHERE I WAS THINKING WE WERE PROBABLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DEBT BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHY WHEN I MENTIONED, WELL, I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT ANY DEBT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT BUT THAT WAS JUST HIGH LEVEL. WE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO SPECIFIC DEBT. THE ONLY DEBT THAT HADN'T BEEN SPENT ON THOSE TWO ON THE ON THE CURRENT OUTSTANDING BONDS ARE PARK. WE'RE FINISHING UP EAST FM 544 AND WELL, I GUESS I GUESS PARKS IN DOWNTOWN PARK SEXY ROAD, BIRMINGHAM. WELL, YEAH, THERE'S ONLY TWO. THERE WAS WHAT'S LEFT OVER ON THE 544 BOND. THAT'S RIGHT AT 308. AND THEN THE 2021 BOND OR THOSE PARK MCMILLAN. BUT THE 2021 BOND ONLY HAS 5 MILLION LEFT OVER ON IT BECAUSE PART OF THAT CAME FROM THE COUNTY'S FUNDING. AND THAT'S THE 5 MILLION WE HAVEN'T ISSUED YET. WE'RE REISSUING SOME THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S THAT MIGHT BE SOME OF MY MISUNDERSTANDING ON THE SPREADSHEET OF HOW IT'S PUT TOGETHER, WHICH IS ON THE, WHEN IT SAYS PROCEEDS UNSPENT. DOES THAT IN, I ASSUME THAT THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW DEBT THAT'S NOT BEEN ISSUED EITHER, THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THE ISSUE THAT, BUT WE'RE ISSUING THE DEBT NOW FOR YOU JUST HAVEN'T PAID THE LAST BILL. WE. WHEN ARE WE ISSUING THAT DEBT? MELISSA. NEXT. PROCEEDS SPENT. YOU WANT TO COME EXPLAIN IT. AND THAT'LL THAT'LL HELP ME. I'M SORRY FOR THE FOR STOPPING THINGS. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT SPREADSHEET YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO THAT'S ONLY FOR THE ONES THAT WE'VE ISSUED SO FAR, NOT NECESSARILY THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO ISSUE, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ISSUING BONDS HERE IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO LOOK AT, IS, WHAT'S THAT AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO, THAT WE'VE NOT ISSUED YET, THAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED STILL WE'RE ISSUING BECAUSE OUTSIDE OF THE FCO'S, WE'RE ISSUING 14 MILLION OF THE ORIGINAL BOND PROGRAM THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S STILL 14 MILLION TO BE ISSUED NEXT YEAR. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. AND THAT'S MY THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE NUT OF WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF, BECAUSE WHEN WE PASS THOSE BONDS OR WHEN I VOTED ON THOSE BONDS, IT WAS KNOWING IN 27, EVERYTHING DROPS OFF AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME RELIEF FOR PEOPLE. SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FUTURE BOND, I'M THINKING, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. WE'RE WE'RE KICKING THAT INTO GEAR WITHOUT GIVING PEOPLE ANY RELIEF IN ANY BREAK IN THAT. SO THAT'S MY LIKE, PULL THE REINS. IF Y'ALL ARE FEELING THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT, OF KNOWING THAT THAT DEBT IS COMING AND THAT THOSE TAX DOLLARS HAVEN'T HIT PEOPLE YET. THOSE THOSE TAX DOLLARS ARE THOSE INCREASES ARE STILL COMING. SO WE IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT, WE NEED STUFF TO DROP OFF AT SOME POINT FOR WHAT'S WHAT'S COMING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO UP. THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE. AND I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING ON THE VOTING ON THE BOND COMMITTEE, BUT THAT'S WHERE I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD ANOTHER SESSION OR TWO BEFORE WE HAD TO HAVE THE NAMES FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE BOND COMMITTEE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, NO, WE NEED THEM NEXT SESSION. SO THAT GIVES ME THE ANSWER. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND IF I MAY ADD, BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS POSED FOR THOSE BOND COMMITTEE MEMBERS AS FOR THE TWO MEMBERS THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS RECOMMENDING, I BELIEVE YOU WOULD NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ABLE AND WILLING TO SERVE AND MEET THE CRITERIA SET SO THEY ARE A REGISTERED VOTER AND ARE LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS. [02:45:06] AND IF YOU NEED OUR OFFICE TO VERIFY THAT, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT WE JUST NEED THAT AHEAD OF TIME WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GATHER CERTAIN INFORMATION TO VERIFY THAT. SO WE WOULD NEED THAT BEFORE WE HAVE TO POST A PACKET THE WEDNESDAY PRIOR TO THE 28TH. SO 21ST. SO WE NEED IT BEFORE THEN. I WANTED TO REQUEST A SLIGHT TWEAK TWO SLIGHT TWEAKS IF WE CAN, FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF PNC AND EDC. JUST BECAUSE TO YOUR, BECAUSE YOU JUST TRIGGERED THIS IN MY THOUGHT, REACHING OUT AND MAKING SURE SOMEONE WANTS TO SERVE, CAN WE PUT IT TO A POINT TO HAVE THEM APPOINT A MEMBER, THE THE PNC COMMISSION AND THE. SURE THAT WAY. THAT WAY THE CHAIR OR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT, THE EDC THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE OR THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SERVE BECAUSE OF OTHER COMMITMENTS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND OUR ORDINANCE. SO JUST GIVING THE FLEXIBILITY OF REQUEST AN APPOINTMENT FROM THEM. NOW, STAFF CAN SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHAIR OR THE VP OR PRESIDENT FROM THOSE. BUT IF THAT INDIVIDUAL SAYS, I DON'T WANT TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND REWRITE IT IF WE'VE PIGEONHOLED OURSELVES ON THE ORDINANCE THERE. AND THE OTHER WOULD BE JUST MAKING SURE AND IT MAY ALREADY BE IN THERE. I, I HAVEN'T READ THE ONE FROM LAST TIME THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF WAY FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO, IF SOMEBODY DROPS OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE SICK, THEY HAVE SOMETHING COME UP, THEY MOVE THEIR BECOME INELIGIBLE FOR US TO REPLACE SOMEONE ON THERE, JUST SOME SORT OF A MECHANISM IN THAT ORDINANCE. SO JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY. IF, IF WE RUN INTO A PROBLEM WITH A MEMBER ALONG THE WAY, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE A GOOD REPRESENTATION THERE. THE ONLY THE ONLY CAVEAT WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER OF A PNC CHAIR IN EDC MEMBER. IF THERE. IF IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THEIR BOARD OR COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT, THERE WON'T BE TIME TO DO THAT FOR THE FIRST MEETING BECAUSE THAT FIRST POTENTIAL BOND COMMITTEE MEETING, THAT AGENDA WILL HAVE TO BE POSTED PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED TO MEET THOSE TIMELINES. SO THAT WOULD IF THOSE COMMISSIONS WOULD HAVE TO MEET TO AGREE TO APPOINT A MEMBER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE DONE IN THAT TIME FRAME. WHEN ARE WE LOOKING TO TRY TO HAVE THE FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING? I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT'S SOMETIME IN MAY OR JUNE. DO YOU HAVE THEM OVER THERE? YES, SIR. JUNE 1ST. WHICH MEANS THE OR. SORRY. MAY 4TH IS THE FIRST IS PROPOSED MAY 4TH. SO THAT AGENDA WOULD HAVE TO BE POSTED REALLY THE NIGHT OF COUNCIL MEETING. ON THE 28TH. BY MIDNIGHT. TO MEET THE THREE BUSINESS DAY REQUIREMENT AND THEN MAYBE MAY 18TH IF WE DO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, JUNE 1ST, JUNE 15TH, THAT'S THE FOUR MEETINGS. AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS A WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS ON JUNE 23RD. OKAY. SO I HAD THIS MEETING IN THIS MONTH. I DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THEIR SCHEDULE. YEAH. YEAH. NEXT WEEK. SO SO P AND Z COULD WORK IT OUT. EDC COULD WORK IT OUT. I ASSUME Y'ALL COULD HAVE A QUICK MEETING IF YOU NEEDED TO. OKAY. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY BOTH HAVE MEETINGS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. SO THAT SHOULD SOLVE THAT. AND THEN THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, I GOT VOLUNTOLD AND THEIR HEART ISN'T IN IT. WELL, I DIDN'T MEAN LIKE, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. I JUST I JUST THAT WAY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE PEOPLE IN PLACE. COUNCILMAN. SORRY. HE'S BEEN VERY PATIENT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. PARKER, I APPRECIATE YOU SUGGESTING COUNCIL BE PRESENT IN, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING AT THE THE MEETINGS. AND I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING JUST TO COUNCIL AND SEE IF THEY AGREE WITH THIS, THAT I THINK WE COULD HAVE THREE THERE WITHOUT VIOLATING A QUORUM ISSUE. AND WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, AS MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM BE TWO REPRESENTATIVES THERE. AND SINCE THERE'S FOUR MEETINGS, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TAKE A MEETING AND BE THE THIRD. AND THAT WAY WE GET FULL REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE COUNCIL. WELL, YOU'LL BE ONE SHORT. NOW, I WILL SAY THIS YOU CAN YOU CAN RUN SHORT. SORRY. WE CAN POST THAT. THERE WILL BE A QUORUM. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE IF ALL OF YOU WANTED TO. I MEAN, IF IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GIVE US. THEN EVERY BOND COMMITTEE MEETING, YOU COULD POST THAT. YEAH, LET'S JUST POST THAT WAY. THAT WAY. THAT WAY. [02:50:03] IF IF IF FOUR PEOPLE WANT TO COME BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, IT WOULD THAT WORK? WOULD THAT SATISFY YOU? JUST ABSOLUTELY MAKE A POSTING THAT THERE MAY BE A QUORUM PRESENT. I WOULD JUST WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO ANY DISCUSSIONS ON. NO, I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SWAY THE BOND COMMITTEE, IS ALL I'M SAYING. FAIR ENOUGH. BY ALL SEVEN OF YOU SHOWING UP. WELL, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS SUGGESTING THAT THERE SHOULD BE THREE. AND WE TAKE TURNS AND. SURE, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. WELL, EVEN IF YOU DID THAT. I MEAN, IF FOUR OF YOU ENDED UP SHOWING UP ONE MEETING, IT WOULDN'T BE ANY BIG DEAL. WE COULD JUST DO THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE I WANTED TO AVOID THE IMAGE OF ALL SEVEN OF US SHOWING UP. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING TO CAUTION YOU ABOUT? YEAH. SO. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I GUESS ONCE WE HAVE THE NAMES, WE'LL SEND IN THE NAMES. SEND MISS STORM, PLEASE. STORM. SO WE DON'T HAVE YOU. NOW. YOU, WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION WILL HAVE TO READ THE NAMES OFF. NO, I MEANT AS SHE STATED. I GUESS BETWEEN US, WE DON'T CALL THE SAME PEOPLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES. SO WE'LL HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY EVERYONE SPEAKS TO THE PERSON AND THEY CAN SAY, GINO ALREADY PICKED ME OR ALREADY. SOMETIMES THEY MAY SAY, BUT SOMETIMES THEY MAY SAY, YEAH, I'LL BE ON THE BOND COMMITTEE. TRUE. LIKE, NOT EVEN NOT THINK THAT ABOUT THAT. SURE. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. AND THEN I GUESS THE LAST POINT THAT I'LL MAKE IS I THINK WE SHOULD POTENTIALLY, ALL OF US SHOULD CAST A WIDE NET OF PEOPLE, ALL TYPES OF, OF DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, DIFFERENT ENTITIES DIFFERENT THAT REALLY HAVE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS SENTIMENT ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE THOUGHT IN 2021 BUT CAN'T PUSH DOWNTOWN ANYMORE. IT'S BEEN PUSHED ALREADY FOR 30 YEARS. IT'S TIME TO I DON'T WANT TO SAY BEAUTIFY, BUT I WANT TO SAY RE REDESIGN THE WAY IN THE FIELD AND THE LOOK OF THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE HAVE COMING IN. WELL, I DON'T WANT US TO I DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DEBATE OVER THAT. I THINK EVERYONE HAS VERY WELL STATED. AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN LOOK AT IT THEN. COUNCILMAN STRING, WE NEED TWO PEOPLE. RIGHT? YES. TWO PEOPLE EACH, PLEASE. I'M WORKING ON THAT ALREADY. HE'S ALREADY THINKING IT THROUGH. HE AIN'T GETTING MINE. SO. BUT ALRIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE OUT OF OUR. [RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION] WILL RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION TO THEN MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.072 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY CLOSED MEETING ES ONE CONSIDER THE [EXECUTIVE SESSION] SALE OR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT BALLARD BROWN, BROWN EUBANKS FM 544, COOPER FM 544 SAND AND FM 1378. BROWN FM 1378 PARK, JACKSON REGENCY STEELE STATE HIGHWAY 78 AND STATE HIGHWAY 78, BROWN STATE HIGHWAY 78, SKYVIEW 551.087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS. ES TWO DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE WDC HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT AND TO DISCUSS THE OFFERINGS OF INCENTIVES FOR PROJECTS. 2022 DASH TEN C 2022 DASH TEN, D2024-2, D2024-5. A 2024-8, D2024-12, C2025-4A2025-9, A 2025 DASH TEN F AND 2026-3E, AND SECTION 551.074 ES THREE CITY MANAGER QUARTERLY EVALUATION. WITH THAT, I WILL RECONVENE US FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION INTO OPEN SESSION WITH NO ACTIONS TO TAKE IN OPEN SESSION. [RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION] WE WILL MOVE TO THE READING OF THE ORDINANCES. [READING OF ORDINANCES] ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-15. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS. ABANDONING, ABANDONING RIGHT OF WAY BEING LOT ONE, BLOCK C OF THE MILL CREEK ESTATES ADDITION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THAT IS ALL. MAYOR. OKAY WITH THAT? THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. WHO DIDN'T VOTE YET? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.