1.Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for a temporary batch plant use located on the southeast corner of Skyview Dr and Forrest Ross Road.

[2.Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Vista Wylie Retail, being Lot 1R, Block A of Woodbridge Crossing, for a commercial use on 2.59 acres, located west of 3440 W FM 544. ]

NUMBER TWO. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A SITE PLAN FOR VISTA WILEY RETAIL BEING LOT ONE R BLOCK A OF WOODBRIDGE CROSSING FOR A COMMERCIAL USE ON 2.59 ACRES LOCATED WEST OF 3440 WEST FM. 544 MOLINA. YES, OUR SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN FOR LOT ONE R BLOCK A OF WOODBRIDGE CROSSING. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST TO THE EAST OR WEST SIDE OF TARGET. I'LL SHOW IT ON THE AERIAL IMAGE. IT'S ACTUALLY A PAD SITE THAT'S UNDEVELOPED. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT'S A SMALL PAD SITE, BUT IT WAS PLANNED THIS WAY. SO WHAT THEIR INTENT IS TO BUILD A BUILDING THAT MEASURES AROUND 11,000FT■!S, AND THEN ANOTHER BUILDING THAT'S JUST UNDER 6400FT■!S. THIS EXISTING PARKING WILL REMAIN. THE ACCESS DRIVE WILL REMAIN. THEY ARE ADDING SOME PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE. AND THAT'S JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE BUSINESS TO HAVE MORE PARKING. AND THEY ARE PROVIDING A LOADING SPACE AS WELL TO NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY FIRE TRUCKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE DUMPSTERS BEING PROPOSED ON THE

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SOUTH SIDE AS WELL. IN GENERAL, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ADD MUCH LANDSCAPING SINCE IT WAS ALL ALREADY PLANTED THERE ALONG MCCREARY ROAD. AND THEN THESE ARE WHAT THE ELEVATIONS LOOK LIKE. SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOES HAVE A WOOD PALLET THAT THEY REQUIRE TO COMPLY WITH, AND THEY ARE SHOWING IT ALONG THE AWNINGS, AND IT DOES COMPLY WITH OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS WELL. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHO ANY OF THE TENANTS ARE. I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO DISCLOSE THAT TONIGHT, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE, ESSENTIALLY. SO WITH THE LANDSCAPING, THEY'RE PROVIDING AROUND 24% LANDSCAPING, WHICH IS IN COMPLIANCE. AND THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THERE'S REALLY IT WAS JUST OCCUPYING THE COMMERCIAL PAD SITES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE. THERE'S NO DRIVE THROUGH, RIGHT? NO, THIS DOESN'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH. OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF ADA SPACES TOO, LIKE HANDICAPPED SPACES. SO. SHARED PARKING. I JUST KIND OF SAID THAT THAT WHOLE PD HAS A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT ANYWAY. SO.

OTHER QUESTIONS. OH, ON THE DIAGRAM HERE, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, IT APPEARS LIKE IT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE TARGET. IS THAT ME JUST NOT SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? OR IS THERE AN INTENTION TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ATTACHED TO THE TARGET BUILDING? SHARES A WALL. OKAY. THE THE NORTH BUILDING DOES. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN THEY PROVIDED THE ELEVATIONS, THEY DON'T SHOW THAT ELEVATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ONE TECHNICALLY. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NOT TAKE A MOTION.

WELL, THERE'S NOT ANY MORE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO. ITEM NUMBER TWO G.

PRESENTED MOTION A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. ON THAT. PASSES FIVE ZERO. OKAY. MOVING

[3.Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light Industrial to Planned Development - Light Industrial (PD LI) on 59.769 acres generally located at 611 Sanden Blvd and 2101 & 2111 W FM 544. ZC 2026-03 ]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PD L I ON 59.769 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 611 STANTON BOULEVARD AND 2101 AND 2111 WEST FM. 544 ZC 2020 6-03.

MR. MOLINA YES, OUR THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2101 211 AND 611 SANDLIN BOULEVARD. WELL THAT'S WHAT IT'S ON WEST END.

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544 AND ON SANDY BOULEVARD. SO THE TWO COMMERCIAL LOTS ALONG FM 544 ARE PROPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, AND THEN THEY'RE PROPOSING AN OFFICE BUSINESS PARK ALONG SANDY BOULEVARD WITH AROUND SIX BUILDINGS THAT RANGE FROM 40,000FT■!S TO 55,000FT■!S. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION, WHICH I WILL LET THEM SHOW RIGHT NOW AS THEY'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT WITH THAT, AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT. ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT WE DID MAIL OUT NOTICES, AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, TO 24 PROPERTY OWNERS, AND DID RECEIVE TWO RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION, AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. I'LL JUST SHOW WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.

JUST JUST STATE LAW THING, BUT. THERE IT GOES. SO IT'S WHERE THE X'S ARE. AND THEN THEY DID PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU COULD SEE ON ON YOUR TABLETS TO SEE WHY IT WAS MOSTLY TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH SAND AND BOULEVARD. WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO LET THE DEVELOPERS PRESENT THEIR CASE RIGHT NOW. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS. YES, SIR. OKAY. MY NAME IS RAFAEL. I WORK WITH SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES. I REPRESENT OUR DALLAS OFFICE HERE. AND GIVE YOUR ADDRESS TO HOME ADDRESS? JUST. OFFICE IS FINE. 7250 DALLAS PARKWAY, PLANO, TEXAS. I'M ALSO JOINED HERE BY BILL DAHLSTROM WITH JACKSON WALKER. TWO OF MY ENGINEERS FROM SPIR'S ARE HERE AS WELL. AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO GET A TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE AS WELL IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T COVER. AND YOU NEED THE ENGINEER DIRECTLY. SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES IS A PRIVATELY HELD COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. WE'RE VERTICALLY INTEGRATED WHERE WE'RE HEADQUARTERED IN MARYLAND, AND PLAN TO DO THAT IN ALL OF THE REGIONAL OFFICES THAT WE BUILD OUT. WE'RE A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND THAT WE DEVELOPED NO MULTIFAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL. OUR BREAD AND BUTTER PRODUCT IS A CLASS A BRICK ON BLOCK BUILT FLEX R&D BUILDING THAT IS BUILT TO LOOK LIKE A BUSINESS PARK THAT HAS LOADING IN THE BACK. THAT'S SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES TRIED AND TRUE PRODUCT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING HERE TO WILEY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR WILEY TECH PARK, THIS IS JUST A BIT OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE WORLD AND WHO WE ARE. AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED, PRIVATELY HELD, WE DON'T SELL OUR ASSETS. THE STORY OF WHAT OUR PORTFOLIO SHOWS TELLS THAT 24,000,000FT■!S OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, WE OWN AND OPERATE.

AND SO THAT'S IN OUR PORTFOLIO THAT'S NOT OWNED BY TERTIARY INVESTORS OF ANY KIND. WE WON NATIONAL DEVELOPER OF THE YEAR IN 2018 BECAUSE OF THE CARE AND ATTENTION THAT WE TAKE TO THE PROJECTS THAT WE BRING TO THE FLEX R&D SPACE, WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO REIMAGINE THAT PRODUCT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE ALSO IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT OUR SISTER PRODUCT IS DOWN THERE, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS UP OUT OF THE GROUND, LEANDER TECH PARK AND LEANDER, TEXAS, AND GEORGETOWN TECH PARK IN GEORGETOWN, TEXAS AS WELL. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO BILL DAHLSTROM. HE'S GOING TO GO OVER THE PARTICULARS OF THE PD, AND I'LL BE BACK TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. MR. CHAIR, COMMISSION. MY NAME IS BILL DAHLSTROM, 2323 ROSS AVENUE IN DALLAS. I'D LIKE TO THANK JASON AND KEVIN FOR THEIR HELP ON THIS. THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL IN HELPING US SHEPHERD THIS PROCESS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE LAND USE ISSUES AND THE PD. BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A CHANGE FROM LEA LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO YOU MAY ASK, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? WELL, THERE ARE CERTAIN USES AND CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS WE NEED TO MODIFY. WE WANT TO MODIFY TO ACCOMMODATE THE TYPE OF HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT SAINT JOHN'S PROPERTIES BRINGS INTO A COMMUNITY. BUT THIS SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS IN YELLOW. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED LI. IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES. THERE'S COMMERCIAL USES, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. WE'RE JUST CONTIGUOUS TO THE SOUTH OF THE SANDIN PROPERTY. THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES GOING OVER TOWARDS 78. SO AGAIN, IT'S COMPATIBLE IN TERMS OF THE LAND USES, THE ZONING, IT'S LI, IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING AS WELL. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S LEA ZONING CONTIGUOUS TO THE NORTH WEST. SOUTH EAST GOT COMMERCIAL ZONING ALL AROUND US. AGAIN WE AREN'T ASKING FOR THAT SIGNIFICANT OF A CHANGE. WE'RE GOING FROM LEA

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TO A PD FOR LEA. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SUBJECTING THE PROPERTY TO A SITE PLAN, WHICH WE WOULDN'T HAVE UNDER THE LEA. SO WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO. THIS ISN'T SPECULATIVE. SO I THINK THAT THAT MEANS A LOT. AND I KNOW THIS IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. YOU AREN'T FOCUSING ON THIS, BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS WELL IN TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT AND IN TERMS OF TAXES TO THE CITY. AND AGAIN, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN WILL BE SUBJECT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT ATTACHED TO IT. AS YOU AS KEVIN SAID EARLIER, AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE TWO RETAIL PAD SITES AND THEN WITHIN THE THE THE BULK OF THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THE FLEX INDUSTRIAL SPACE, FLEX COMMERCIAL SPACE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

IT'S THE TYPE OF USE WHERE YOU'VE GOT A SERIES OF SPACES WITHIN A BUILDING THAT DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, DIFFERENT USES, SCHOOLS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES CAN USE THOSE SPACES WITHIN A FLEX SPACE. IT'S, IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF USE IN TERMS OF IT'S NOT STRICTLY COMMERCIAL, IT'S NOT STRICTLY INDUSTRIAL, IT'S NOT STRICTLY RETAIL. IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO THAT'S LENDS ITSELF TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? WELL, WE'RE CALLING IT FLEX INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT FITS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND WE NEEDED TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING SIX BUILDINGS ON THE THE FLEX SPACE, APPROXIMATELY 280,000FT■!S, GIVE OR TAKE, DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR FINAL DESIGN LOOKS LIKE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SAND AND ROADS OVER TO THE LEFT, WE HAVE A DRIVEWAY GOING THROUGH THE SITE, OPENING UP TO THE OTHER SPACES AS WELL. THE OTHER BUILDINGS. THE LIGHT YELLOW IS OUR FIRST PHASE. THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS, THEN QUEBEC. YOU SEE THE SUBSEQUENT PHASES AT THE BACK. SO AGAIN, IT'S A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT USE OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S NOT A VERY INTENSIVE USE OF THE PROPERTY, GIVEN THAT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ENGINEERING ALSO IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR TIA DID IDENTIFY SOME CHANGES, SOME MODIFICATIONS WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE IN TERMS OF RIGHT TURN LANES IN AND OUT OF THE SITE, BOTH IN TERMS OF OFF OF 544 AND OFF OF SANDIN. BUT AGAIN, GIVEN THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO THERE TODAY, THERE REALLY, THERE REALLY ISN'T A LOT OF A LOT OF CHANGES OR SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU COULD DO THERE TODAY, GIVEN THAT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF ZONING. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE KEY IS WE'RE SUBJECTING THIS TO A SITE PLAN. AND HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOWING THE OPEN SPACE AND THE, THE TREES THAT WE WILL BE PROPOSING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AND YOU CAN SEE THE SERVICE COURTS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. SO YOU'VE GOT TWO, THREE PAIRS OF BUILDINGS IN THE CENTER. YOU'VE GOT SERVICE COURTS, WHICH WOULD BE USED LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CIRCULATION. AND FOR THE VEHICLES ACCESSING THE, THE SPACES IN THE INSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXTERIOR ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WILL BE THE FRONT DOORS, IF YOU WILL, FOR THESE SPACES. AND WE HAVE PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE SIGNAGE PLAN TO TRY TO MAKE SURE ALL THE SIGNS ARE VERY SIMILAR. AND THIS IS ALSO IN YOUR, YOUR MATERIALS AS WELL. SO WE TALKED ABOUT, I TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE WERE WANTING TO MAKE, SOME OF THE USES WE WERE ADDING, SOME USES THAT WE THINK ARE COMPATIBLE AND THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER TYPES OF SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES, FLEX SPACES THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER MARKETS. SO WE'RE ASKING TO ADD DATA CENTERS. AND, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT IT'S A, THE SITE PLAN WE HAVE, WE AND THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, WE THINK THE DATA CENTER MIGHT BE POSSIBLE. LABORATORIES, RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT ARE TESTING AGAIN, TYPE OF USE THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES MAILING AND SHIPPING WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL MAILING AND SHIPPING USE SERVICE, COMMERCIAL PHARMACY, SPECIAL EVENT OR CONFERENCE CENTER, SWIM SCHOOL. AND YOU SEE SOME OF THESE SWIMMING SCHOOLS IN THE, IN INDUSTRIAL PARKS, A TRAINING CENTER. SO THESE ARE THE KINDS OF USES THAT WE HAVE DEFINED. WE ARE ADDING BECAUSE AGAIN, WE THINK THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE'RE PROPOSING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WERE SEVERAL USES IN THE CITY ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR SOME MODIFICATIONS. I REALLY THINK THEY'RE MORE CLARIFICATIONS.

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FOR EXAMPLE, THE EQUIPMENT RENTAL. WE HAVE ADDED LANGUAGE TO ASSURE THAT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT RENTAL. THE DEFINITION TODAY READS A FACILITY RENTING ITEMS INCLUDING LIGHT AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT. WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ALLOWED OTHER TYPES OF EQUIPMENT LIKE TENTS, PARTY SUPPLIES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. SO WE'VE KIND OF CLARIFIED THAT THOSE TYPES OF EQUIPMENT RENTALS ARE ALSO PERMITTED. FOOD AND FOOD PROCESSING. WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT THIS USE INCLUDES KITCHENS USED FOR THE PREPARATION OF FOOD TO BE CATERED. SO CATERING KIND OF SERVICE AT A SECOND LOCATION, WHICH WASN'T NECESSARILY PERFECTLY CLEAR UNDER THE CURRENT DEFINITION, LIGHT ASSEMBLY AND FABRICATION. WE CLARIFIED THIS TO BASICALLY STATE THAT THERE'S A LIST OF OF SUB USES IN THERE THAT WE WANTED SURE THAT THOSE ARE JUST COMPONENTS OF WHAT A ASSEMBLY AND FABRICATION USE COULD BE, THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THEM MEDICAL CLINIC. WE MODIFIED THAT TO STATE OUTPATIENT SURGERY CENTERS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE MEDICAL CLINICS, VEHICLE DISPLAY AND SALES. WE TOOK OUT AIRCRAFT AS A VEHICLE, DISPLAYED SALES AND SERVICE, AND WE ADDED THAT GOLF CARTS ARE PERMITTED AND. AND RENTAL OF THESE TYPES OF OF VEHICLES, WAREHOUSE OR DISTRIBUTION CENTER. WE REMOVED THE THE LIMITATION OF 25,000FT■!S, WHICH IS IN THE CODE. NOT ONLY HAVE WE MADE THESE MODIFICATIONS TO THESE USES AND HAVE WE ADDED USES? WE'VE TAKEN OUT QUITE A FEW USES AS WELL OUT OF THE LI, BECAUSE WE WANTED A LIST OF USES THAT WE FELT IS INDICATIVE OF THE TYPE OF QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT WE'RE PROPOSING. SO AGAIN, WE'VE MODIFIED USES, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES, SUGGESTED CHANGES TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS KIND OF A FACILITY. AND I'M GOING TO ASK RAFAEL TO COME BACK UP AND GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY HAVE DONE. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THESE ARE REALLY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS. THEY'RE BUILT TO LAST. THEY'RE MASONRY, AND THEY FIT VERY WELL WITHIN A COMMUNITY EXPANDING LIKE WILEY.

RAFAEL, THANKS. YES. SO BILL REALLY TOUCHED ON TOUCHED ON THIS. AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ISN'T TO SKIRT OR GET OUTSIDE OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT'S TO PROVIDE EXACTLY THE SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES FLEX PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE'RE SHOWING IN FRONT OF YOU AND CHANGING OR ALTERING ANYTHING IN THE CODE UNDER ALLIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DO IT EXACTLY THE WAY THAT WE TYPICALLY DO. IN SOME CASES, IT'S GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. AS BILL MENTIONED, IN A LOT OF CASES, IT'S TAKING OUT NOXIOUS USES FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAT ARE BY RIGHT THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT IN OUR PARK ANYWAYS AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH AGAIN, THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A MUTUAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS TECH PARK. THIS SLIDE IS TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THE EXTERIOR FLEX BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE. OUR TRADITIONAL FORMAT IS A RED UTILITY BRICK ON CMU BLOCK CONSTRUCTION.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU. AND THEN THE AMENITY AREAS THAT WERE SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL LOOK INDICATIVE OF THAT BOTTOM PHOTO OVER THERE. WE'RE GIVING TENANTS DIRECT ENTRY WITH HIGH RETAIL GLASS LINED THROUGHOUT, BOTH THE FRONT AS WELL AS THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MIDDLE PHOTO THERE, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE'RE EVEN PUTTING WINDOWS ON THE BACKS OF THESE. AND SO THEY ARE TRULY NOT INTENDED TO BE THE TYPE OF HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING. INTERIORS, THE SAME THING. DEPTHS ARE ONLY UP TO 100FT, 16 TO 18 FOOT CLEARS ARE PROVIDING OUR TYPES OF TENANTS WITH THE OUR TYPES OF USERS WITH THE SPACE THAT THEY ARE TYPICALLY NEEDING, AND A SPACE THAT'S NOT TRADITIONALLY GIVEN TO THEM IN THE MARKET WITH THE KIND OF TIES THEY NEED FOR THEIR BUILD OUTS. AGAIN, JUST HIGHLIGHTING THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE PD, AND WE ARE MEMORIALIZING THIS UNDER THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT OUR INTENT IS AND MEMORIALIZE THAT. SO AGAIN, JUST TO BE AS OPEN BOOK ABOUT OUR PROCESS AS POSSIBLE WITH THE CITY, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT OUR INTERIOR SPACES WILL LOOK LIKE, SPEAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE HIGH END TECH USERS THAT LIKE OUR SPACE FOR CLEAN WAREHOUSE, FOR LAB TESTING, ETC. THESE ARE SOME OF OUR KEY PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR EXISTING SPACE. I DO HAVE A TWO MINUTE VIDEO THAT MY MARKETING TEAM HAS DONE, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING FLEX BUILDINGS FOR 50 PLUS YEARS. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. WE'VE PUT THIS TOGETHER. IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED, I'LL PLAY IT. IF NOT, WE CAN MOVE TO QUESTIONS.

SURE, YEAH THAT'S FINE. LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS.

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I THINK WHAT THIS DOES NICELY AS WELL IS IT SHOWCASES THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USERS AND TENANTS THAT YOU TYPICALLY SEE IN OUR SPACE AND HOW DIVERSE THEY REALLY ARE.

AND THAT SHOWCASING OUR FLEXIBILITY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE BUILDING THESE SPECULATIVELY FOR USERS THAT NEED THEM. AND SO WE'LL FILL THEM OUT WITH TENANTS OF VARYING SIZES AND CAN DO SO UP TO 2400FT■!S, INDIVIDUAL TENANT SPACES, ALL THE WAY TO FULL BUILDING USERS THROUGH A RIVIAN SERVICE AND SALES LOCATION, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE.

AND THAT IS, OH, WHERE'S THE. I LOST THE PRESENTATION, BUT THERE'S A THANK YOU SLOT HERE. THERE YOU GO. I WAS LIKE, WOW, DID MY MARKETING TEAM ADD THAT? THAT'S GREAT. JUST PLAYING ANOTHER VIDEO. SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SIX. YOU ONLY HAVE ONE TURN IN COMING INTO THE WHOLE SITE. THAT'S GOING TO PUT ONE BIG TRAFFIC JAM WITH SIX BUILDINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON SAND HERE. LET ME GUESS. YEAH. YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ONLY ONE TURN IN.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S A BOTTLENECK WAITING TO HAPPEN. SO WE RAN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE UNDERSTAND. THE FOLKS TO THE NORTH OF US DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO STUDY. RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A REAL TIME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SAND AND BOULEVARD IS ACTUALLY DOING AND WHAT THE LEVELS OF SERVICE ARE. AND SO WE STUDIED THAT ROAD WITH LAMBETH ENGINEERING TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WHO SUBMITTED A STUDY FOR REVIEW TO THE CITY. AND THAT SHOWS THAT IF WE PROVIDE THE DECELERATION LANE ALONG. 544 ONTO OUR RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT IT'S THIS YELLOW HIGHLIGHT AT THE TOP OF OUR PLAN. BUT IT'S ALSO SHOWN ON THE PD ZONING EXHIBIT, AS WELL AS THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE INTO OUR FLEX SPACE ALONG SANTA BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED DEDICATED LEFT TURN STRIPING THAT WE'VE OFFERED. WE'RE MITIGATING THE

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LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT SANDEN WAS PERFORMING AT BACK TO THE WAY THAT IT WAS, AS IF OUR PROJECT NEVER EXISTED. WELL, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS NOT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC ON IT IS THE FACT YOU HAVE SIX BUILDINGS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO NEED ANOTHER LANE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. SO BECAUSE AND I'M FINE WITH ANOTHER LANE, I JUST THINK IT NEEDS IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THERE, UNLOADING EVERYTHING IN ONE LANE. AND CURRENTLY WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S I'M OKAY WITH IT. I MEAN, BUT WHEN YOU ADD SIX BUILDINGS WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE, YOU'RE SAYING 800 JOBS. THAT'S THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. YEAH. SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO CREATE OVER A THOUSAND TRIPS NEEDS TO BE STUDIED BY A. TIA YEAH. AND THAT TIA, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS APPENDIX SLIDE THAT'S UP NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY IT IS TO SEE. AND I'M GOING TO HAVE CHRISTY COME UP HERE TO GET REALLY INTO THE PARTICULARS BECAUSE SHE'S THE TRAFFIC EXPERT AND SHE RAN THE PROJECT. BUT WE ANALYZED BOTH WHAT THE TRAFFIC WAS DOING AT ALL THE STOPLIGHTS AROUND US AND ITS EXISTING CONDITION. AND THEN WE ANTICIPATED, BASED ON IT, TRAFFIC CODES THAT RELATE TO THE TRAFFIC WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING ON WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO IMPACT TO THOSE INTERSECTIONS. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT WITH THE MITIGATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE OFFERING, WHAT THAT DOES TO THE SERVICE, AND WE ACTUALLY GET IT BACK DOWN TO A A SLIGHTLY BETTER LEVEL THAN IT WAS PERFORMING AT IN TODAY'S CONDITION. WITHOUT OUR PROJECT THERE, WHAT WOULD BE MORE CONCERNING IS THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH OF U.S RUNNING A HEAVY AMOUNT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S IMPACTING, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN THEIR TRAFFIC INTO OUR TIA APPROACH WHEN PROVIDING OUR IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE WERE IMPROVING THEIR STUFF AS WELL. JUST TO SHOW YOU THE TWO COMING OFF, THE ONE COMING OFF OF 544 HAS TWO ENTRANCES AND IT'S A LITTLE BITTY ONE. AND THEN YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT THE BIG ONE. ONLY HAVE ONE. I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT I'M GETTING. MY TRAFFIC EXPERT REALLY GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY BECAUSE I THINK IN SOME CASES, TWO CAN ACTUALLY CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAN ONE. HI, I'M KRISTY LAMBERT, 6301 GASTON AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. AND I DID THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THIS PROJECT. I WILL NOTE WE ALSO INCLUDED THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK. THAT IS NOT PART OF OUR PROJECT, BUT WE DID INCLUDE THAT AS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC TO ACCOUNT FOR BOTH DEVELOPMENTS BEING IN PLACE. AND YES, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC, ABOUT 100 VEHICLES TURNING RIGHT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AND 100 VEHICLES TURNING SOUTH LEFT INTO IT. AND THEREFORE WE DID RECOMMEND THAT SHOWN IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. A NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN DECELERATION LANE, AS WELL AS A SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN DECELERATION LANE IN SANDTON IS PRETTY WIDE. IT CAN ACCOMMODATE FOUR LANES NOW WITH PAVEMENT, SO THERE ONLY WILL NEED TO. WITHIN THE EXISTING PAVEMENT, THEY CAN STRIPE THE SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE, AND THEN THEY'LL ADD THE PAVEMENT FOR THE RIGHT TURN LANE TURNING INTO THE SITE. SO IF THERE WASN'T THE CASE AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AND THERE IS IT'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT, BUT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC. AND THERE WAS ENOUGH THAT WE WEREN'T WE THAT WARRANTED US RECOMMENDING BOTH A RIGHT TURN AND A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE. YEAH. AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO WE ANALYZED ALSO THE LEAVING THAT THE LEFT TURN LANES INTO THE SITE ARE PRIMARILY FOR THE MORNING PEAK PERIOD WHEN VEHICLES ARE ARRIVING AND THEN OUTBOUND. WE ANALYZE THAT AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT WITH MINIMAL DELAYS. WELL, THE QUESTION I HAVE ALSO IS YOU HAVE THIS ONE TURN IN, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE BIG TRUCKS THAT GOT TO GO IN THERE AND MAKE DELIVERIES? THAT'S GOING TO MAKE TRAFFIC BACK UP TOO. SO CAN IS THERE NOT A WAY TO PUT A ONE MORE JUST TO LIKE GET THOSE TRUCKS OUT OF THERE OR SOMETHING? WELL, THANKFULLY MOST OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC COMES OUTSIDE OF THE PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC. THEY'RE USUALLY IN THE MORNING OR MIDDAY. THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE THE TRUCKS WON'T WANT TO BE IN THE MORNING AND PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY ON THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS. SO THE ROAD WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE. THE CIVIL ENGINEER WAS GREAT ABOUT DOING THE TURNING PATHWAYS, AND SAINT JOHN'S HAS A VERY STRICT. I LOVE THEM VERY STRICT AND THOROUGH REVIEWS OF EVERYTHING FOR THEIR SITE TO BE SUCCESSFUL ON THAT. AND THERE IS. WE DIDN'T PUT VERY MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER DRIVEWAY IN THE NORTH THAT THEY COULD USE TO. NO, NO, THAT GOT CUT OFF. NEVER MIND. SORRY. YES. THEY'RE THERE. AND WE ALSO ACCOUNTED FOR THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ON THE NORTH SIDE. GOOD. YEAH, IT'S KIND OF WITH YOU. AND I'M NOT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYZER BY ANY MEANS. I JUST TRY TO THINK OF IN THE VIDEOS AND THE PICTURES. THERE'S 18 WHEELERS COMING IN AND. YEAH, RIGHT NOW MAYBE IT

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COULD SUPPORT FOUR LANES, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S TWO LANE. UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, EVEN WITH THE TURN LANE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE TRUCKS GOING IN THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME BACKING UP. NOT SO MUCH GETTING OUT, GETTING OUT OF THIS SITE. IT'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT I PERSONALLY CARE ABOUT BACKING UP ON THE PROPERTY, BUT THE ROAD IS. NOW KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT WE'RE NOT APPROVING A SITE PLAN HERE, NOT TAKING AWAY FROM ANYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE ARE. WE DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THE TURN LANES GOING INTO THE SITE. OH, I THINK WE DO TOO. WE WERE JUST TALKING MORE OF THAT'LL HAPPEN. THE, THE THE DECEL LANES ARE GOING TO BE A THING. SO I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY WIDEN. WELL, A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT. NO, I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, THE PAVEMENT, I MEAN THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER LANE ADDED IN THERE. I MEAN I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT SANDIN IS ON THE CITY'S RADAR. THE THE THING IS, IS WE WANT TO DO IT ONCE. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT WHAT THE CITY'S PLAN RIGHT NOW IS. TO. WIDEN, IMPROVE SAND AND ALL THE WAY FROM 544 TO 78 AND. THE.

THEY'RE ALREADY. I KNOW THAT ENGINEERING WORK, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WORK IS ALREADY BEING DONE WITH THAT. I'M JUST HAVING THAT DECEL LANE AND LOOKING AT THE THE DIMENSIONS YOU HAVE LIKE I GUESS SPACE FOR TWO TRUCKS, 218 WHEELERS IN THERE. YEAH. MAYBE THERE'S NOT THAT ON THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE. WE'VE ASPIRES ENGINEERING HAS STUDIED THE TURN RADII. AND SO THE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TURN IN OFF THE RIGHT TURN LANE. NO PROBLEM. AND WE WON'T HAVE BACKUP GETTING TRUCKS ENTERING INTO OUR SITE. IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP, IT'D BE THE LEFT TURN OUT OF THE SITE, WHICH THE DECEL LANE DOESN'T AFFECT. BUT THE STUDY SHOWS THAT BASED ON THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, THAT SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN, AND IT CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T BOTTLENECK SANDIN BOULEVARD ANY WORSE THAN THE EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT'S HAPPENING ON SAND. AND IN FACT, WE'D BE ALLEVIATING THAT ISSUE. LET'S SAY THE VEHICLES THAT ARE TURNING INTO THE SITE, THE NORTHBOUND RIGHT TURN MOVEMENT, THAT'LL BE A FREE FLOW MOVEMENT INTO THE SITE. SO IF A TRUCK IS TURNING RIGHT INTO THE SITE, THEY MIGHT SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS THEY TURN BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE THEM TURN AS FAST AS PASSENGER VEHICLES. SAME WITH THE LEFT TURN TRUCK IS RETURNING IN. THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF GAPS IN THE ROAD FOR VEHICLES TO EASILY BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT INTO THE SITE. AND AGAIN, IT WAS CRITICAL. IT WAS A. WHEN WE GET TO 100 VEHICLES PER HOUR, YOU DEFINITELY NEED. AND IT WAS RIGHT UNDER 100. NOT QUITE 100, BUT YOU DEFINITELY NEED TURNING LANES INTO THE SITE. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT TURNS INTO THE SITE. KEVIN, WHAT DID YOU MEAN SLIGHTLY IMPROVE? WE ALL KNOW.

OKAY, WELL, NO, WHAT WHAT STAND IN IS LIKE WHEN THERE'S SPORTS ACTIVITIES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHEN. WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT THE ROAD ITSELF IS ALMOST AS WIDE AS IT'S GOING TO BE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET I MEAN, THE RIGHT OF WAY. THERE IS 110FT. SO IT COULD BE IT COULD BE AS BIG AS BROWN, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BEGINNING THAT DESIGN WORK. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO END UP BEING SIX LANES, LIKE 544.

THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S 110FT WORTH OF RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

AND TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT MEASURES OUT TO BROWN STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF 711, THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS ABOUT 95FT. SO THERE'S ROOM TO MAKE IT THAT BIG. YEAH, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE FOUR LANES. IT WON'T BE FOUR LANES DIVIDED. I'M ALMOST SURE OF THAT. BUT IT COULD BE FOUR LANES. WELL, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER PRESENTERS WANTING TO DO THINGS. ASSOCIATED WITH SAND AND BOULEVARD. WE HAD THIS CONCERN. OF THE TRAFFIC THERE.

I MEAN, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN IS IT THE GARBAGE COMPANY IN THE CITY HAD A COLLECTION? IT WAS HERE, IT WAS ON A SATURDAY, BUT IT WAS BACKED ALL THE WAY UP. SAND DUNE WAS COMPLETELY BACKED UP FROM 544 ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. SOLID TRAFFIC. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND THAT'S WHY MY CONCERN IS, IS THE VOLUME OF

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TRAFFIC THAT THAT ROAD AS IT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED, CAN HOLD NOT ONLY FOR YOURS, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BUT WHAT WE KNOW, HAVING LIVED IN THIS TOWN FOR OVER 20 YEARS, WHAT CAN HAPPEN ON THAT ROAD? SO. MAY I ADD ONE ITEM THAT TO NOTE TO YOUR CONCERN THERE? OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE DO RECOMMEND SOME SIGNAL TIMING MODIFICATIONS AT BOTH SANDOWN AND FM 544 AND STATE HIGHWAY 78, BECAUSE THERE IS BACKUP TODAY AT THOSE SIGNALS. SO WE RECOMMEND SOME SLIGHT TIMING MODIFICATIONS ON BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS TO HELP RELIEVE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC.

AND THEN WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT IS CURRENTLY SHOWING TO OPERATE AT LEVEL SERVICE F IN SOME SCENARIOS. AND WITH THE TIMING MODIFICATIONS, WE'RE BACK TO BETTER LEVEL SERVICE D OR BETTER. YES. SO THAT IS RECOMMENDED IN ADDITION TO THE DECELERATION LANES INTO THE SITE. KEVIN, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MAP REAL QUICK? WHICH. KEVIN. OH, WHICH MAP I CAN, THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE LAYOUT. THIS ONE FOR THIS ONE FROM THE SKY. THERE WE GO. IF YOU LOOK YOU, YOU GUYS, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE YOUR BACK OF YOUR FACILITY AND THERE'S THE ROAD THAT COMES UP. WHAT'S THAT ROAD THERE? THE, THE OTHER ONES ARE ON. IT COMES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. HENSLEY. YOU COULD COME IN. CAN'T YOU JUST PUT A ROAD THERE TO COME IN THE BACK WAY.

THAT'S ALL WETLANDS. THAT'S ALL WETLANDS. OH IS IT. AND FLOODPLAIN. SO WE CAN'T RUN ROADS THROUGH IT. AND SO I WAS JUST THINKING TO CONTINUE THAT ROAD RIGHT IN. BUT IF IT'S WETLANDS AND THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. YEAH. AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I HESITATE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP ANOTHER CAN OF WORMS. BUT EVERY SUBDIVISION IS REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. AND THEY DO HAVE THAT IN THE FACT THAT IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACK, ON THE BACK SIDE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO UP INTO SAND. AND I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT. YEAH. SO THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE PART IS TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THE EMERGENCY. YEAH. RIGHT THERE WHERE HE RAPHAEL HAS THE CURSOR RIGHT NOW. SO THAT PART RIGHT THERE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES ALSO, IS THAT ALSO ACCESSIBLE? IF A TRUCK NEEDED TO COME IN THAT WAY TO TAKE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF OF IT? NO, BECAUSE IF YOU GO UP FAR ENOUGH, YOU KNOW THAT SAND HAS CONTROLLED ACCESS. OH YEAH. YEAH. THEY HAVE THAT GATE THERE. NOW FIRE AND POLICE WILL HAVE ACCESS ACCESS THROUGH THAT GATE, BUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL KNOW IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OF ANY KIND. THOSE WILL BE OPEN TO PUBLIC PEDESTRIANS TO GET OUT. YEAH. AN ALTERNATE. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE DEVIL THAT YOU KNOW IS SOMETIMES BETTER THAN THE DEVIL THAT YOU DON'T. WE'VE SAT HERE AND STUDIED THE INTERSECTION WITH A PROFESSIONAL, GONE THROUGH THE GONE THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF MITIGATING FOR OUR TRAFFIC IN A WORSE CONDITION. SANDY COULD DECIDE TO SELL THESE INDIVIDUALLY, PIECEMEAL. MAYBE YOU GET MORE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY DON'T HIT THE THRESHOLD TO REQUIRE THE TIA, AND THEN BY RIGHT, YOU'RE ALLOWING A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPER WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO DO A TIA TO PUT EVEN MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC ON. WHEREAS WE'RE KIND OF TAKING IT ALL DOWN. WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ANY MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'LL ALL BE A FULLY DEVELOPED BLOCK AND WE'RE TAKING ON THE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE. I'M ONLY ASKING THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M, I, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET BUSY. OKAY. I MEAN, YOU GUYS GOT SIX BIG BUILDINGS THAT'S GOING TO GET VERY BUSY AND, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROBLEM. MY CONCERN IS IF WE'RE PUTTING ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL PARK LIKE THIS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE ONE THAT'S ON 75 NORTH OF THERE. I'D LIKE TO WIDE OPEN ON 75 AND UP IN KRAMER 78, KRAMER UP IN THAT AREA, THOSE BIG MONOLITHIC THINGS THAT SIT ON THE LONG SIDE OF 78. WE ARE THE LOVETT BUILDING. YEAH. THOSE WERE BUILT BECAUSE OF THE TRAINS. WE ARE WE. YEAH. THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT YEAH, VERY DIFFERENT USE CASE. AND WE'RE NOT TAKING THE SAME TENANTS AS THOSE THAT THAT BUILDING IS LOOKING FOR TENANTS THAT WOULD BE LARGER THAN OUR ENTIRE BUILDING. THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING FOR 80 VOLT POWER TO MANUFACTURING USERS. WE DON'T ALLOW YOU WOULD HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE T SIDE TO STEP OUR POWER UP TO 480 IN ORDER TO OPERATE SOMETHING HEAVIER. WE HAVE OFFICE POWER BEING BROUGHT INTO OUR TENANT SUITES ON PURPOSE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF USE. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND WE'RE A DIFFERENT VALUE PROPOSITION ALTOGETHER. I THINK

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A LOT OF THIS STUFF IS ALREADY IT'S ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT'S ALREADY PERMITTED FOR THAT.

BUT IT IS NICE WHEN Y'ALL COME AND WE CAN AT LEAST WORK THROUGH SOME STUFF. SO WE'RE HERE TO, WE, WE AGAIN, WE DON'T SELL OUR ASSETS. YEAH. AND IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 50 PLUS YEARS, I'M GOING TO BE REPRESENTING OUR PROJECTS OUT HERE. WE'RE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HIRE A LOCAL PERSON TO DO OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. SO WE WANT THE CITY ON BOARD. WE DON'T WANT WE'LL FIND OTHER PLACES TO DO DEVELOPMENTS IF THIS ISN'T WANTED HERE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FORCE THIS ISSUE DOWN. PNC YEAH, AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT COMMENTS TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND WE ALL LIVE HERE AND THERE'S THAT POSSIBILITY. I UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT CORRECT BY ANY MEANS. IT'S JUST WE'RE TRYING TO THINK OF KIND OF. WE, WE GET PRESENTED WITH SOMETHING. AND OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL ARE PEOPLE WHO DEVELOP THESE THINGS AND DO TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SOMETIMES YOU GO BY PLACES AND THERE'S VEHICLES QUEUING UP TO GET IN AND THEY PROBABLY SAID THE SAME THING.

AND SAND IN ITSELF. YEAH, I CAN HAVE TRAFFIC ON IT AT VARIOUS TIMES OF DAYS WITH BACKING UP AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PUTTING IN A USE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF VEHICLES IS JUST SOMETHING WE GOT TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT. AND OBVIOUSLY NOT MAYBE A NORMAL SCENARIO, BUT THE KIND OF WHAT IF SCENARIO, A LOGICAL ONE OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THERE IS A BACKUP OR THOSE TRUCKS GOING TO GO, AND HOW'S THAT GOING TO AFFECT TRAFFIC? SO. I, I DON'T I'M NOT TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT PART. MY I HAD A QUESTION MORE ABOUT THE USES. AND AGAIN, THEY, MOST OF THEM APPEAR TO BE USES ALREADY EITHER PERMITTED IN COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE ONLY ONES I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH, AND YOU ALL HAVE IT ONLY ALLOWED ON LOTS 1R2 AND 1R3, BUT THERE'S NO S P REQUIREMENT. AND THEN SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS SHOP FOR 1 OR 2 AND ONE R3, BUT NO S U P FOR ANYWHERE ELSE. WAS THAT JUST WAS THAT JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, WE DON'T WE DON'T FIND A LOT OF PAD USERS THAT ARE LIKE CIGAR CLUBS, BUT WE DO GET CIGAR CLUBS THAT LIKE OUR FLEX SPACE BECAUSE THE HIGH CEILINGS AND THEY CAN INSTALL HEAVY HVAC EQUIPMENT TO CIRCULATE THAT AIR. AND SO IT DOES BECOME A DESTINATION FOR PRIVATE CIGAR CLUB TYPE USES. AND WE LIKE THE ABILITY TO LEASE TO SOMEONE LIKE THAT IF, IF AVAILABLE. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S LISTED AS JUST IN THE FLEX PARK. OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK BOTH OF THOSE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY WERE EITHER TRYING TO OR WENT TOWARDS THE S U P. I MENTIONED TO THE APPLICANT THAT THOSE WOULD PROBABLY COME UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT THEY CHOSE TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I MEAN, IS THAT A DEAL KILLER? OKAY, THAT WOULD BE MY OTHER USES ARE IN THERE EITHER ALREADY AUTHORIZED OR NOT. THAT WAS A BIG STICKING POINT IN THE HISTORICAL COMMITTEE WHEN WE WERE DOING THAT, THAT TRYING TO DO THAT DOWNTOWN. YEAH, WE HAVE 2700 TENANTS IN OUR PORTFOLIO AND THEY'RE TWO CIGAR CLUBS IN THE WHOLE 25,000,000FT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO NOT DO THIS DEAL. IF I CAN DO THAT BY. RIGHT. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I DIDN'T. EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMED TO FIT THE EXISTING EITHER COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THOUGHT, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT. IS THE CONCEPT SOMETHING? COMFORTABLE? YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THIS FROM A STANDPOINT OF YOU JUST AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPT IT, BUT IT'S ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT. SO. AND THEN THE OTHER THING TOO IS IT'S FOR THE ZONING, NOT THE SITE PLAN.

SO. THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT IS WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE SITE PLAN. WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE ZONING, WHICH AGAIN, MOST OF IT SEEMS TO ALREADY BE THERE EXISTING.

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SO I'M KIND OF SPEAKING OUT LOUD, BUT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT DOWN. I KNOW. HE WANTS TO SPEAK. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR A CHANCE TO INTERJECT WITH THE QUESTION, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT USES THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR BUILDINGS AND POTENTIAL CLIENTS THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE OR WOULD HAVE. YOU MENTIONED DATA CENTERS? WHAT KIND OF DATA CENTERS SPECIFICALLY? REALLY GOOD QUESTION. YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. SO WE ONLY ADD A DATA CENTER BECAUSE WE HAVE A CLIENT WHO'S IN A COUPLE OF OUR REGIONAL OFFICES CALLED CENTER POINT, AND THEY'RE A SMALLER DATA CENTER PROVIDER. THEY'RE NOT LIKE A BIG GUY. AND SO THEY ACTUALLY FIT WITHIN OUR FLEX. THEY HAVE TO JUICE UP THEIR POWER A LITTLE BIT. AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S A BIT OF A MATH GAME TO MAKE SURE THE OTHER TENANTS WILL HAVE ENOUGH POWER, BUT THEY HAVE TAKEN FULL BUILDINGS BEFORE AND RETROFITTED A DATA CENTER INTO ONE OF OUR SHELF FLEXES. AND SO WE WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT USER IF IT CAME BY. BUT IT'S A RARE CASE. AND IN A PLACE LIKE TEXAS WHERE DATA CENTER DEVELOPMENT IS SO PREVALENT, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO RUN INTO SOMEONE LIKE THAT. BUT IF I DO, I'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM IN. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT SAID, DO YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE A CAP ON THEIR MEGAWATT USAGE, LIKE HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONSUMING WITHIN THE SPACE? YEAH. WE WOULDN'T LET THEM CAPITALIZE ON MORE THAN WHAT THE BUILDING'S ALREADY PROVIDING. AND IF THEY HAD TO GO GET ACCESS, EXTRA POWER, THEN WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO FIND A DIFFERENT SITE. OKAY. SORRY, I NEED TO MOVE DOWN. THE BUILDING IS BASICALLY NOT BIG ENOUGH. IT'S. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO SAY THE CITY COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY ASK ABOUT THAT TURN LANE TOO. YES. YEAH I UNDERSTOOD. YEAH.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTING THE SITE PLAN HERE, BUT I DO JUST MY CIVIL ENGINEERS ARE IN THE ROOM, MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS IN THE ROOM. I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME AND CARE AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ENGINEERING THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING AS TRANSPARENT UPFRONT AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PURSUE MORE TIME, MORE MONEY AND MORE ON THE CONTRACT ON THIS PROJECT. AND SO IF TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE A DEAL KILLER FOR THIS PROJECT, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT NOW VERSUS WHEN WE GET THERE FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SO REST ASSURED, THE DISCUSSION ON SPECIAL USE PERMITS WILL NOT GO AWAY. UNDERSTOOD. SO HERE'S THE THING. I KNOW CHAIRMAN BUTLER MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS ZONING, BUT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, NOW IS THE TIME WITH THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE ON A SITE PLAN, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, BUT IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, YOU KNOW, SO IF THERE IS A DEAL, KILLER CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, NOW, NOW IS THE TIME. I, I LIKE THIS. I'M JUST WISH THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY TO PUT ANOTHER TURN LANE IN OR ANOTHER ENTRANCE. YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT SO I'M GOING TO SAY TWO THINGS ABOUT THAT. ONE, I, AND I CAN ONLY SAY SO MUCH JUST BECAUSE I, I ONLY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED RIGHT NOW. SANDIN IS GOING TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT THAT WILL HELP HOW AND, AND WHEN AND WHY. I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. IT'S BEEN ON THE, THE CITY'S RADAR FOR YEARS. I WOULD ALMOST SAY THAT IN A WEIRD, WEIRD SORT OF WAY THAT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO ACTUALLY SPEED THAT UP. I WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT, IT MOST LIKELY WILL BECAUSE THE NEED IS NOW THERE. AND THEN THE OTHER PART ABOUT IT IS, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO SOUND, HOWEVER IT'S GOING TO SOUND. BUT. IF THEY DESIGN THEIR ENTRANCE AND EXIT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IS A HUGE PAIN IN THE REAR TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR, THEIR TENANTS ARE GOING TO TELL THEM THAT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEASE IT OUT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WHAT THE CITY, WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IS, YEAH, HOW THIS AFFECTS SANDIN AND CAN PEOPLE GET IN OR GET OFF OF SANDIN, YOU KNOW, AND CAN THEY GET BACK ON THE ON THE SAND AND FOR SURE FROM THE PROPERTY. BUT IF THEY BACK UP, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE, THEY'VE SHOWN THEY'VE GOT PLENTY OF OF, OF ROOM THERE. AND IF THEY HAVE

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EIGHT, NINE, TEN PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT. THAT'S KIND OF ON THEM. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T CARE. YOU KNOW THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO CARE ABOUT THAT. BUT THEIR TENANTS ARE GOING TO TELL THEM THAT. AND AND NO, THEY WON'T LEASE OUT. YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD FAITH IN THAT. THEIR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. IS SOLID FROM THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT SIDE. AGAIN, WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS THE PUBLIC SIDE. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF OF IT SAFE AND TO BE ABLE TO GET IT BACK ON SAFE. AND THEY'VE THEY'VE SHOWN THAT THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE. AND TO YOUR POINT, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO KRAMER UNTIL THE SCHOOLS WERE MADE. AND THAT'S. YEAH, EXACTLY. YES. AND KRAMER'S BEEN SITTING THERE SINCE I WAS YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, BOOM, YOU KNOW, NOW THEY HAVE THAT EXTRA ONE AND.

YEAH. AND SO YES. AND NOW KRAMER'S GOING TO GET IMPROVED. SO I, LIKE I SAID, I, I CAN'T GUARANTEE ANYTHING, BUT I, MY GUT TELLS ME THAT THIS IS GOING TO SPEED UP THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPROVEMENTS OF SAND AND TO BRING IT FULL CIRCLE TO THAT POINT, LIKE I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WE ARE LONG TERM HOLDERS. WE DON'T SELL OUR ASSETS. SO IT IS ON ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN LEASE THIS UP TO TENANTS WHO WANT TO ACCESS AND OPERATE THE PARK. THAT'S WHY WE DO SO MUCH TIME ENGINEERING THESE PROJECTS UPFRONT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO RUN INTO THOSE ISSUES FOR OUR LEASE UP SAKE. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WHEN MY BOSS DROVE THE SITE, EDWARD SAINT JOHN OF SAINT JOHN PROPERTIES, HE SAID, WHY CAN'T WE EXPAND THIS? SO I'M SURE I WILL GET PRESSURE TO TRY AND REACH OUT TO TEXDOT TO SEE IF I CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS AS WELL, TO WIDEN IT OR WORK WITH THE CITY IN ANY CAPACITY TO ALIGN STANDARDS. SO WE'LL BE ON A WE'LL BE ON THE SAME TEAM TRYING TO ADD IN SAND. AND ONCE WE'RE IN. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT THEY BROUGHT UP AND IT'S JUST, I THINK JUST FOR AN UNDERSTANDING EVERYBODY. THEY DID TALK ABOUT A. TO USE VERY LAYMAN'S TERMS, CHANGING THE TIMING OF THE LIGHTS. DOES THAT TYPICALLY IF THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THEY'RE OKAY, IS IT TEX DOT THING? YEAH. SO HERE'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IF THE ZONING GETS APPROVED WHEN IT GETS THROUGH COUNCIL, I WILL. TEX DOT ALREADY HAS A COPY OF THIS. TIA SO THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S REQUIRED. SO IF THE ZONING GOES FORWARD, THEN ONCE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING ASPECT STARTS OF IT, TEX DOT IS GOING TO GET ROPED IN INTO THAT DISCUSSION. AND AS THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PLANS ARE, ARE APPROVED, THEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL HAPPEN AND WE'LL TRY EVERYTHING WE CAN, OBVIOUSLY TO MAKE TEX DOT UNDERSTAND. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S YEAH, YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY IT'S TEX DOT SO WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO IT. BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW TODAY, YOU KNOW I DON'T DRIVE SAN A TON, BUT I FEEL TODAY THAT SOME TIMING ISSUES COULD BE FIXED THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT DOES FEEL LIKE ESPECIALLY LIKE AROUND THE 4 TO 6:00 AT NIGHT, HEADING NORTH ON SAND AND ON TO 544. THAT LIGHT SHOULD DEFINITELY STAY GREEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN IT DOES, YOU KNOW. BUT YOU HAVE TO TIME THOSE ALONG. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE THAT WITH THE IDEA THAT THOSE LIGHTS ARE TIMED ALL THE WAY. YOU KNOW, 544 IS TIMED ALL THE WAY FROM WHEN IT'S 14TH STREET, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY TILL IT TURNS TO STONE, YOU KNOW, AND SO ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE REWORKED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU DO THAT. SO BUT YES, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY MURPHY DOESN'T DO A GOOD JOB. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY, SO POINT BEING IS THAT TEX DOT ALREADY HAS A COPY OF THE TIA AND WILL BE PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS SHOULD THE ZONING GET APPROVED.

WE ALSO HAVE CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL FROM TEX DOT FOR THAT DSL LINK. SO WE'VE EVEN REACHED OUT TO TEX DOT AND STARTED THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE FEASIBILITY IS IN LINE. OKAY.

AND THEN MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION AS FAR AS THE WIDTH OF THE ENTRANCE, IS IT WAS IT 30 FOOT OR SOMETHING? IT'S 40FT. OKAY. AND THAT'S A NORMAL THAT'S ALLOWS FOR A BIG 18 WHEELER TO DO THEIR THING. WE'VE RUN, WE'VE RUN THOSE AUTO TURN ANALYZES WITH WB 67 TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ABLE TO MAKE THAT TURN. NO PROBLEM. GOTCHA. OKAY. WELL IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. WE CAN CALL YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE DO THAT? OKAY. WELL, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. AND SINCE NOBODY IS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. OKAY? I MEAN. I CONCUR

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WITH THE ENTRANCE PART. I DON'T KNOW HOW I. I MEAN, WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER SPOT THAT IF THEY HAD TO, THEY COULD PUT AN OUTLET ON THERE AND GET THEM OUT, WHICH IS RIGHT UP FROM IT.

SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT NOW. I JUST SAW IT RIGHT THERE ABOVE WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS. THEY COULD STICK ANOTHER TURN LANE OUT TO THE ROAD FOR TENANTS. WELL, IF THEY HAD TO, AS JASON WAS SAYING. IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DISCUSS NOW? IF WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE FINE WITH IT, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TENANTS TELL THEM THEY NEED ANOTHER WAY OUT. I GOT YOU, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S ROOM.

YEAH. AND I WILL ALSO ADD THAT YOU CAN TURN OUT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH WHEN FIRE AND ENGINEERING, WHEN YOU KNOW, IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED AND IT GOES TO SITE PLAN AND CIVILS, FIRE AND ENGINEERING ARE GOING TO BE DOING A MORE IN-DEPTH REVIEW. AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY COME BACK AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT ENTRANCE IS GOING TO NEED TO BE WIDENED. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A MEDIAN IN THERE FOR US TO BE HAPPY. YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S TWO LANES AND TWO LANES OUT THAT JUST MAYBE END UP AND BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW. AND SO THAT'S WHY AT THE ZONING IN PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE NOT OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, STACKING AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. BUT LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED MADE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, OR ENGINEERING APPROVAL. OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST HAVE THOSE. SO ARE YOU WANTING THE SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS TO BE BY S U P ONLY AND EVERYWHERE AND YEAH. AND THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AND DRIVE THROUGH. OKAY. AND AREN'T WE DOING THAT WITH FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TOO? NOT AS OF YET, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS. YES. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN THE PD. IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, I GOT YOU ON THAT ONE. I CAN TALK TO MR. DAHLSTROM AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS, THAT MY COMMENTS DO YOU NEED TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE MOTION AS A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THEN? OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, IDEAS, THOUGHTS? WAS THAT OKAY? SORRY, THE CHAIRMAN IS PROPOSING THAT WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, THE MOTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE WOULD DISALLOW SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS AND RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THRUS UNLESS IT HAD UNLESS IT HAS AN S, U, P. YES.

THE INTENTION FOR THE TWO PADS AT THE TOP ARE TO BE PADS. RIGHT. AND SO WE ARE WE ARE PULLING OUT OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WOULD BE BY RIGHT OR WITHOUT S U P THAT YOU GUYS ARE PARTICULARLY ADVERSE TO C-STORE GAS. WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING FOR, WE'RE NOT PUSHING FOR IT. WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. BUT THESE ARE PAD SITES. SO MOST OF THE TYPES OF USERS ARE EITHER GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT DRIVE THROUGH OR A, I DON'T KNOW ANY BANK PAD SITE USER THAT DOESN'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH IN TEXAS. RIGHT. AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO BE FORTHRIGHT WITH THE PD, THESE ARE USES WE WANT BY RIGHT FOR THOSE PADS, WE'RE STUDYING THEM AS WE. THE T I A HAD THEM AS 5000 SQUARE FOOT HIGH DENSITY, QUICK SERVICE, FAST FOOD. SO WE'RE PROVING THAT WE CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC UP THERE. WE'RE DOING A FLEX DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND TAKING OUT A LOT OF NOXIOUS USES FROM THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL YOU GUYS DON'T WANT. WE'RE TAKING OUT A LOT OF THE PAD USERS THAT YOU GUYS DON'T WANT, BUT WE NEED CERTAIN ONES BY RIGHT AND DRIVE THROUGH. SORRY, QSR DRIVE THROUGH AND BANK DRIVE THROUGH WOULD BE TWO. WE'D EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO DO BY. RIGHT. WE'RE. YEAH. AND THESE ARE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I THOUGHT Y'ALL WERE OKAY WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S NOT SO MUCH OF HAVING A.

THAT USE THERE. IT JUST GIVES US MORE CONTROL OF WHAT GOES THERE. AND SO WE HAVE MORE OF A REVIEW ON IT AND. RIGHT. BUT I THE VALUATION FOR THOSE PADS ARE PREDICATED ON THE ABILITY TO LEASE TO USERS THAT WOULD FIT THE MOLD FOR A PAD. AND SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME, WELL, YOU

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CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT USER, WE JUST HAVE TO APPROVE WHICH ONE IT IS. THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT VALUE PROPOSITION FOR WHAT THOSE PADS CAN BE. AND CANDIDLY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PAD USERS. THEY'RE ONE AND A HALF ACRES EACH. THAT'S WHAT'S INTENDED TO BE ON THERE. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO GO THROUGH CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL USERS AFTER I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND SO WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A HUGE RESERVATION FOR C-STORE WITH GAS. THAT'S WHY WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE PD. BUT THAT WAS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE KIND OF TRIED AND TRUE PAD USERS THAT YOU SEE ALL UP AND DOWN. 544 TODAY WOULDN'T BE KIND OF ISSUE CASE HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO, WE WOULD IF WE CAN'T GET THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT AS A BY RIGHT. AND THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH A DRIVE THROUGH IS A BY RIGHT WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, REASSESS WITH SAND AND SYSTEM. CAN'T WE MAKE IT SPECIFIC ON THAT CORNER ON THE MOTION VERSUS THE REST OF IT? THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. THEY'RE ALREADY. CERTAIN USES ARE ONLY ALLOWED ON THOSE PADS. YEAH. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN OUR MOTION, CAN WE SAY THE DRIVE THROUGH OR WHATEVER IS OKAY ON THAT CORNER, BUT NOT DOWN IN THE MAIN PART. IT'S ALREADY IT'S ALREADY LIKE THAT. OKAY. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY. YEAH. THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE DRIVE THRUS ON THOSE TWO PADS. YEAH. THE REST OF THAT FLEX SPACE TO THE SOUTH IS ALL DOES NOT A SUGGESTION I HAVE IS DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE HOW BIG THE RESTAURANTS ARE FOR Y'ALL? LIKE IF THERE WAS A, A MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD THAT MAKE IT ANY DIFFERENCE TO ALLOW IT BY RIGHT IF HOW BIG THEY WERE? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YEAH. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE PROPOSING 5000FT■!S IF YOU REQUIRE IT TO E 5000FT■!S AND IT CAN'T BE ANY SMALLER, THAT LIMITS THE TYPE OF DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT. IT COULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A COFFEE SHOP TYPICALLY ASKS FOR SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE, SO AT LEAST YOU WOULD LIMIT THAT FROM BEING THERE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YOU STILL WOULDN'T KNOW WHO THE USER IS? YEAH, I MEAN, I'M JUST THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS. AND SO I GUESS MAYBE I'M GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF IT, BUT I, I THOUGHT LIKE I SAID, MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR, I THOUGHT WHEN I MENTIONED IT. YEAH, WE'RE OKAY WITH IT, BUT MAYBE WE WERE MORE FOCUSED ON THE SMOKING PART.

AND SO MAYBE THAT WAS JUST I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT. IT'S ON, IT'S ON ME. ALSO THE 5000 THAT'S WE AGAIN TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE T I A WE MAXED OUT WHAT WE COULD PARK AND FIT ON THOSE PADS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE IN ITS BUSIEST, MOST DENSE SCENARIO, WE'RE PROVIDING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO GET THE TRAFFIC THROUGH. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THOSE USERS WILL 100% BE 5000FT■!S, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE BIGGEST SIZE PAD YOU CAN FIT WHILE GETTING THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE PARKING, THE FLOW. AND THEN PART OF THE EXISTING EXCEPTIONS TO DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL REQUIRES THE ADEQUATE SPACING FOR THE QUEUING. AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING MET IN OUR PD ZONING. AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY OF THOSE TO COME OUT. I'M JUST ONE PERSON. SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN OPINION ON IT? ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WANTED TO PUT IN DRIVE THRUS, AND WE FORCED THEM INTO AN S, U, P. ALL OF THEM.

YEAH. NOW, IF WE DON'T HEAR. EVERY ZONING CASE AND EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY STANDS ON ITS OWN MERIT. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I CAN HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY. TRUE MONEY TALKS.

WELL, I DON'T I'M JUST. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN. YOU SAID Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LINED UP THOUGH. OR EVERYTHING. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO SELL. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

ACTUALLY, WE'RE NOT LOOKING. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN MIND. WE BUILD EVERYTHING TO SPEC AND WE ARE LONG TERM HOLDERS. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO GROUND LEASE, NOT SELL THOSE PADS. AND IN OUR IDEAL WORLD, THEY WILL BE OUR CLIENT, OUR TENANT, NOT A INDIVIDUAL OWNER ON THE HARD CORNER. THE ONLY REASON WE WILL SELL IS IF THE MARKET DOESN'T WANT TO DO GROUND LEASES HERE.

AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THERE'S NOT A LOT AVAILABLE LEFT ON. 544 IT'S A MASSIVE GROWING CORRIDOR, SO I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE GROUND LEASE IN OUR GROUND LEASE PROVISIONS. WE REQUIRE NO BLACKOUT, MEANING IF THEY DON'T KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS PER OUR GROUND LEASE, THEY EITHER HAVE TO CURE OR WE CAN GO IN THERE

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AND FIND A REPLACEMENT TENANT. SO WE DON'T WANT THE BLIGHT ON OUR HARD CORNER ANY MORE THAN YOU WANT TO DRIVE DOWN 544 AND SEE SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PROJECT.

IT'S OUR FRONT DOOR OF OUR PROJECT. WE WANT SIGNAGE OUT THERE. SO I WANT THAT TO BE A HIGH OPERATING TENANT. HIGH QUALITY TENANT. EXCUSE ME. MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. AGAIN, BILL DAHLSTROM, IT IT SEEMS LIKE THE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS THAT I'VE REPRESENTED OVER THE 39, 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, THE ISSUE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE CIRCULATION, QUEUING AND MAKING SURE CARS ARE OFF OF THE HIGHWAY, OFF OF THE ROADS AND THAT THERE'S AN EFFICIENT WAY IN AND OUT OF THE SITE, THAT THERE'S THE PASS THROUGH LANE. I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL THAT, JASON, BUT THE PASS THROUGH LANE IN OUR ZONING EXHIBIT, WE'VE ALREADY PROVIDED MORE THAN ENOUGH QUEUING SPACE FOR CARS TO QUEUE IN LINE, PLENTY OF ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE SITE WITHOUT A MAJOR IMPACT ON. ON. 544, WE ACTUALLY WE'RE PROVIDING A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE FROM. 544. SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN A FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH SITUATION, WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THOSE IN THIS SITE PLAN AND THE ZONING EXHIBIT. I MEAN, SO THE LAST THING IT WOULD BE PLUS WE'VE GOT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS. THE ONLY THING WE'D BE ADDRESSING AT THIS POINT WITH THE CP IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE ADDRESSING BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE EVALUATING WHO IT IS. IT'S, IT'S HAVE WE ADDRESSED THESE LAND USE ISSUES AND MITIGATE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS? AND YES, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WITH THIS ZONING EXHIBIT. SO I'M GOING TO ADD TO MR. DAHLSTROM COMMENT ON THAT. ONE OF THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE CONCERNS OF WHY WE MADE DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. CPS WAS BLIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE ALL REMEMBER HOW THE BUILDING NEXT TO BURGER KING STOOD VACANT FOR LIKE TEN YEARS BEFORE FUZZY'S HAD TO BASICALLY REBUILD IT IN ORDER TO MOVE IN. WHY? WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT SAINT JOHN'S, YOU KNOW, WILL OWN THE PROPERTY FOREVER. YOU KNOW, THEIR INTENT IS TO GROUND LEASE IT. SO THE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD LET IT SIT VACANT FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME AND CREATE THAT KIND OF BLIGHT IS A NEGATIVE TO THEM. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, BUT I'M JUST STATING THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE REQUIRED CPS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WAS IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE SPACE AND WE HAVE DONE THIS IN OTHER PLACES AND I HAVEN'T YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS, BUT HAVING MINIMUMS ON THE THE SIZES, IF YOU KNOW, IS A CONCERN THAT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THE MINIMUM BUILDING SIZES. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I THINK 5000 IS A LOT. BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO JUST KEEP IT FROM WHERE IT'S JUST A LITTLE COFFEE SHOP, THEN THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY. BUT I'LL ALSO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE THEY DO GROUND LEASES, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE BUILDING SPACE IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE RENT. SO AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER IS CONCERNED THAT EVERY PROPERTY AND EVERY ZONING CASE STANDS ON ITS OWN MERIT. IF THEY WERE JUST COMING IN AND SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO REZONE THESE TWO CORNERS TO COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S IT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SELL THEM OFF BY ALL MEANS. I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO DEFINITELY HAVE THEM AS S U P. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE. I'M JUST SAYING GIVING YOU REASONS WHY IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AT LEAST WORTH A CONSIDERATION THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SEPARATE SUVS. THEY'RE JUST PART OF THIS PD, IF THAT. YEAH, I JUST IT'S NICE TO OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHICH WE DON'T. IT'S IT'S VERY EARLY STAGES. WHAT'S GOING IN THERE. I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN THAT A LOT OF CITIZENS HAVE IS WHAT ARE WE GETTING. AND I THINK THERE'S A PORTION THERE NOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY WE CAN'T CONTROL THE END USER ANYWAY. OH THAT'S TRUE.

THE ONLY WAY WE CAN KIND OF CONTROL THAT IS BY HAVING A MINIMUM BUILDING SIZE. AND IF YOU HAVE A MINIMUM BUILDING SIZE, THEN THERE'S OBVIOUSLY CERTAIN DRIVE THRUS THAT JUST AREN'T GOING TO LEASE THAT KIND OF SPACE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FEASIBLE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST IS, DO WE WANT TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE OR NOT? BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU'RE THINKING YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO DRIVE THRUS, PERIOD, THEN YES, THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE GENTLEMAN NOW. BUT IF DRIVE THRUS ARE GENERALLY OKAY, THEN I DON'T THINK ADDING AN S U P REQUIREMENT TO THIS MAKES IT ANY. THERE'S NO VALUE IN IT.

THE VALUE IS JUST WHETHER DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED AT ALL. GOTCHA. WELL, MY COMMENT IS TO NO ONE, FROM WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK BAD

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BECAUSE IT WOULD LOOK BAD ON THEM. SO WE CAN KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK GOOD AND BE A NICE DRIVE THROUGH VERSUS A STANDALONE BUILDING THAT SOMEBODY JUST BUILT TO BUILD A DRIVE THROUGH. THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT GOT DISCUSSED. YES, SIR. SO THAT SOMEONE CAN'T COME TO US AND SAY, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. SURE. YOU MADE ME DO IT RIGHT. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. I WANT IT ON THE RECORD THAT THAT IS, IN FACT, SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT AND MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION ABOUT. YES, SIR. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND. THAT'S FINE. SOUNDS LIKE I I'LL RETRACT THAT ONE. OKAY. SO SMOKING, I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS JUST NEED TO GO AWAY PERIOD. UNLESS IT'S AN S U P YEAH. WHICH IS JUST THE STANDARD ZONING STANDARDS THE WAY WE HAVE IT NOW. OKAY. SO I GUESS I CAN GO AHEAD. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE JUST DISCUSSED WITH US ABOUT THE S U P ISSUE. YES, SIR. WORD IT UP FOR US. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND A MOTION. A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. PASS FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. LOOK

[4.Consider and act upon adoption of amended Rules and Procedures for the Planning and Zoning Commission to reflect changes to State Law, City Ordinances, and other matters.]

FORWARD TO WORKING. OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON ADOPTION OF AMENDED RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO REFLECT CHANGES TO STATE LAW, CITY ORDINANCES, AND OTHER MATTERS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YES. SO THE OTHER MATTERS. WE'LL GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. APPARENTLY I CAN'T SPELL COMMISSION VERY WELL.

THERE'S ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT PLACES IN HERE WHERE IT WAS MISSPELLED. THERE WAS ONLY ONE S OR ONE M OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE. SO NOW THAT THAT'S DONE, THE OTHER RECOMMENDED EDITS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS REWORDING FOR WHEN THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTED TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT THE PNC COMMISSION NO LONGER IS REQUIRED TO MEET ONCE A MONTH, THAT USED TO BE IN THE CHARTER, NOW IT'S ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. SO WE REORDERED THAT THAT THE AGENDAS ARE POSTED TO ALIGN WITH THE VERBIAGE FOR COUNCIL AND THAT. THE OTHER BIG CHANGE IS THAT THE AMENDS THE ABSTENTION PARAGRAPH TO VOTE, CHANGE THE VOTE FROM AFFIRMATIVE TO NEGATIVE. IF NO DECLARED CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ANOTHER CHANGE THAT CAME THROUGH WITH THE CHARTER. SO IN ORDER TO BE IN LINE WITH THE CHARTER, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THOSE FEW LITTLE CHANGES. FOR SOME OF YOU, THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEEING OR KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, NO, I ALWAYS PASS THESE OUT EVERY YEAR. I KNOW YOU ALL GET THEM. I'M JUST MAKING A JOKE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE READ THEM BEFORE. BUT THAT BEING SAID. IT'S JUST A SMALL LITTLE UPDATE. COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED ALL OF THESE CHANGES IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, BYLAWS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO THIS WAS A DIRECTION WE GOT FROM THE CITY SECRETARY THAT WE THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM TO MATCH UP. SO THAT'S WHY THESE ARE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING. YOU DO HAVE TO APPROVE THEM. AND THEN I'LL TAKE THEM TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL. OKAY. SO THEN WE WERE WE BASICALLY NEED TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ARE WE ACCEPT THE APPROVAL. YES. OKAY. YEAH.

I'M NOT MAKING THAT MOTION. I'M ASKING. THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION. WELL, IT'S JUST A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED BECAUSE THEY ULTIMATELY WILL GO FOR THIS. YEAH. GO AHEAD. MAXIMUM 15 MINUTE PRESENTATION. I'VE NEVER SEEN A TIMER ON THAT IS IN THERE TO ALLOW THE CHAIR OF ANY PARTICULAR. I KNOW YOU'RE TO STOP THEM. YES. AND WE DO THAT ON YOU KNOW IT'S I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD A 15 MINUTE ONE. NO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE JUST BEING, YOU KNOW, FACETIOUS, KIND OF FUNNY ON IT. BUT THAT BEING SAID, KEVIN AND I DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SHRINK THOSE DOWN. WE HAVE GOTTEN 30, 40 SLIDE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE AND WE'RE LIKE, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT ONE. I DON'T WANT TO SIT THROUGH THAT. AND I KNOW DARN WELL THAT MY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS DO NOT WANT TO SIT THROUGH THAT. SO OUR GENERAL GUIDANCE, OUR GENERAL GUIDANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN 1015 IF YOU'VE GOT AN APPENDIX, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT LONG, BUT YOU KNOW, WE GOT IT A LITTLE BIT LATER. SO WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'LL ROLL WITH IT. WELL, I'M ALL FOR YOU HAVE THAT RULE. BUT YES, WE HAVE THAT RULE IN THERE TO GIVE THE CHAIRPERSON SOME BACKBONE.

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IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND IS, IS TRYING TO GO THROUGH AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOUR TIME IS UP.

SO. YES, SIR, WHAT WE HAVE. ON THOSE TWO LADIES CAME DOWN FROM CANADA. OH YES, YES, YES, YEP.

OKAY. SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THAT RULE THEN. WELL YOU GET THIS EVERY YEAR. NO, I, I THAT WAS A JOKE. ANYWAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THAT. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. I WILL SECOND APPROVAL AND A SECOND OR A MOTION A SECOND. SORRY. PLEASE VOTE. YES. WE HAVE A CHOICE. ANY TIME. FIVE ZERO PASSES.

GREAT. OKAY. NO MORE ITEMS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MEETING, DO WE? WE DO.

OKAY, OKAY. IN TWO WEEKS. GOTCHA. YES, IN TWO WEEKS, IT'S BRIAN ROGERS. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY, WELL, YOU MAY WANT TO RECOMMEND ADJOURNMENT. I RECOMMEND WE ADJOURN. I SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY. LET'S VOTE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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