[CALL TO ORDER]
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CALL TO ORDER THE WILEY PLAN. ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MARCH 17TH, 2026. FIRST UP, WE HAVE THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER GOOGE AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COMMISSIONER BLACK. PLEASE RISE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY YOU GIVE TO US TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF WILEY IN THIS COMMISSION MEETING. PLEASE BE WITH EACH OF US TONIGHT WHEN WE EVALUATE THE PROPOSAL REQUEST PROPERLY FOR US. FOR HIS WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO HAVE. WE ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AND FOR ME, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, UP NEXT IS COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO STEP UP AND TALK ABOUT OR SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GET UP. AND
[CONSENT AGENDA]
SINCE NOBODY'S GETTING UP, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS ARE A NEED TO PULL ONE OFF. OR IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. I MOVE WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION TO A SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THOSE ITEMS PASS FIVE ZERO. NEXT UP, REGULAR[1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2003-01 (PD 2003-01) to Planned Development (PD) on approximately 34.6 acres. Property generally located on the southwest corner of FM 544 and Woodbridge Pkwy. (ZC 2026-02).]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT.2000 AND 3-01. PD 2000 AND 3-01 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT. PD ON APPROXIMATELY 34.6 ACRES.
PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF FM 544 AND WOODBRIDGE PARKWAY. ZC 2020 6-02. MR. MOLINA. YES. GOOD EVENING. SO THE ITEM WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT, IT'S A CITY INITIATED ZONING CHANGE. TYPICALLY CITY INITIATED ZONING CHANGES ARE DONE TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE LAND USE PLAN TO ADJUST OUTDATED ZONING USES AND CORRECT INCONSISTENCY INCONSISTENCIES WITH HOW DEVELOPMENT IS DONE NOW VERSUS WHEN THE ORIGINAL ZONING WAS DONE. THIS PROPERTY, IT MEASURES AROUND 35 ACRES ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF FM 544 AND WOODBRIDGE PARKWAY, AND IT WAS INITIALLY ZONED IN JANUARY OF 2003. SO IT USES THE ZONING ORDINANCE STANDARDS OF THE 2002 ZONING ORDINANCE. AND WHAT STAFF HAS DONE IS THEY'VE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THAT EXISTING PD ONLY FOR THAT THE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THE MAP RIGHT NOW. SO THAT IT'S AMENDED TO OUR UPDATED CODES THAT WERE DONE IN 2023. THERE'S ALSO A STATEMENT WITHIN THE PD THAT SAYS, AS AMENDED. SO IF ANY FUTURE ZONING CHANGES ARE DONE, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE COVERED WITH WITH THIS PD. AND IT'S NOT JUST TO CORRECT THE USES. IT'S ALSO BECAUSE A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL ACREAGE OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN SPLIT OFF INTO THEIR OWN PD'S. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF IT USED TO INCLUDE MUCH MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO THE SOUTH. THE WOODBRIDGE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT ALL IS GOING TO REMAIN THE SAME. LIKE THIS IS WHAT IT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON THE BOTTOM. THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL. IT'S REALLY WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING TRACK C ONE THAT'S UP HERE. BUT THEY'LL HAVE SEPARATE PDS ESSENTIALLY. WE DID MAIL 35 NOTICES AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING BACK. ANYTHING IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. SO AT THIS TIME, THERE ISN'T REALLY ANYTHING TO SEE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT. IT'S REALLY JUST CHANGING WHAT'S IN THE EXISTING PD. RIGHT. SO THAT'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO I THINK IT'S LIKE
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WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FEW MINUTES AGO. THIS IS BASICALLY JUST BRINGING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT SECTION UP TO DATE. CORRECT. 2003 TO 2023. CORRECT. BASICALLY ALL THAT'S CORRECT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOLINA? IF NOT, I'LL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. LET YOU KNOW WE NEED YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE ITEM, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. AND SINCE NOBODY IS, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. OKAY? OH, COMMISSIONER, I THINK SAID IT BEST. OTHER THAN KEVIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATES. NOTHING CRAZY, BUT OBVIOUSLY ANYBODY ELSE. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? IF NOT. WE CAN MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE. WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.RECOMMEND APPROVAL. EXCUSE ME. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION OF THIS ITEM. ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. AND THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. OKAY. NEXT UP, WORK SESSION ONE. HOLD
[WS1. Hold a work session to discuss Section 5.1, Land Use Charts, of the City of Wylie Zoning Ordinance.]
WORK SESSION DISCUSSED. SECTION 5.1. LAND USE CHARTS. CHARTS OF THE CITY OF WYLIE. ZONING ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE JUST WANTED TO UPDATE, MAYBE CLEAN UP A LITTLE BIT AND WE ARE OPEN TO. AT THE SAME TIME, WE JUST WANT TO WORK SESSION BEFORE WE JUST THROW SOME THINGS AT YOU TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ONE, WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING, AND TWO, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'VE SEEN WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT YOU DON'T WITHIN JUST THE LAND USE PART, THAT'S ALL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN MAKING ANY AMENDMENTS TO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS REMOVE OUTDATED USES. THE BIG ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE MINING IS STILL LISTED AS AN ALLOWABLE USE WITHIN WILEY.IF ANYBODY EVER WANTS TO DIG A MINE IN WILEY, THEY CAN COME THROUGH THE PD PROCESS AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST REMOVE THAT LINE. WE ALSO WANTED TO ADD SPECIAL USE PERMITS. WE BASICALLY WANT TO TAKE. WE'VE GOT LIKE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH BANK WITH DRIVE THROUGH AND 1 OR 2 OTHERS. AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE IT VERY SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT THE SMOKE SHOPS OR THE ALCOHOL, YOU KNOW, THE BEER AND WINE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE DRIVE THROUGH FROM THE USE AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT A SPECIAL PROVISION. AND SO THEY WOULD JUST THE IF APPLICANT HAS ANY BUSINESS AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH WITH IT, IT JUST AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES AN S, U, P AND WE DO THAT FOR, YOU KNOW, HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE REASONS. MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN, THE SITE'S DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEDESTRIAN AND FOOT VEHICLE TRAFFIC ARE AS SAFE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN BE. AND THEN SORRY I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE. USES. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? SORRY, KEVIN, DO YOU REMEMBER? YEAH, THE EVENT CENTER, WE WANTED TO ADD AN EVENT CENTER. KEVIN REMEMBERED THAT ONE BECAUSE HE'S DEALT WITH THAT. HE'S GOTTEN 3 OR 4 CALLS EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO ONE. SO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT AS A ALLOWABLE USE. WE'RE THINKING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND THEN COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND THEN SAY MAYBE DOWNTOWN WOULD BE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT ONLY AND AN EVENT CENTER. IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING, THE GENERAL DEFINITION, WE DON'T HAVE ONE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, BUT
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THE GENERAL DEFINITION THAT WE WILL WORK UP IS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, BAR MITZVAHS, THE BABY SHOWERS, WEDDINGS. YEAH. YEAH, SURE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY COULD DO THAT TOO, BUT IT'S ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE A GATHERING, YOU KNOW, 25, 30, 50, 100 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER. OF COURSE, THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, AND THE AREA WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOISE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATION. WE WANT TO MAKE IT A ZONING CASE WHERE ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING, EXCEPT POSSIBLY LIKE IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THOSE AREAS ARE PRETTY WIDE OPEN. USUALLY WHEN EVENTS ARE GOING ON, THE, YOU KNOW, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREAS ARE USUALLY BUSINESS HOURS TYPE OF PLACES. SO SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT BUSY ANYWAY. SO WE DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, IF I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND ALL THE APPROPRIATE PARKING IS IN PLACE. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN ONES, IS GETTING RID OF A COUPLE OF THE USES LIKE MINING, MAKING ALL DRIVE THROUGH SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND THEN ADDING EVENT CENTERS AND ALLOWED USE. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD GET THE COMMISSION'S THOUGHTS ON THOSE AND THEN IF THERE IS ANY OTHER THING THAT YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OR WE'RE HERE. OKAY. YEAH. AND IT'S JUST ADDING REMOVING. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND WHAT YOUR GOAL FOR THIS IS JUST ADDING AND REMOVING, NOT SO MUCH LOOKING AT SPECIFIC ZONING. IF YOU. YES, BY ALL MEANS, IF THE COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE SHOULD BRING THIS BACK, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, I THINK EVENT CENTERS SHOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN PARTICULAR AREAS, THEN YES, BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU'RE OPEN TO STAFF'S GENERAL SUGGESTION AND US DOING A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH THIS PROCESS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHERE EVERYBODY'S AT. BUT BY ALL MEANS, IF YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SAY THE EVENT CENTER, STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON WHERE THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE OR, OR THAT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT. OKAY. I THINK WE CAN MANAGE THAT. SO. WITH THE EVENT CENTER, IF WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO SAY 500FT WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, SURE. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. I MEAN, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY A CERTAIN DISTANCE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY WANT SEPARATION WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BETTER WAY FOR US TO START WITH THAT. AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU ALL WITH A NUMBER ONCE WE DO SOME MORE RESEARCH, OKAY? AND GET INVOLVED IN THAT BY ALL MEANS. YES, WE COULD DO THAT.
QUESTION I HAVE AFTER YOU'VE GOT THE INTERPRETATION OF LAND USE CHART DISTRICT ABBREVIATIONS AND THEN THE ENSUING 1012 PAGES BEYOND THAT, IS THAT YOUR FIRST CUT OR IS THAT WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS? THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. OKAY. THIS IS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. THIS DOESN'T DOESN'T INCLUDE THE OTHER. THESE CHANGES YOU'VE BEEN. NO, IT DOES NOT. SO YOU'LL BRING IT BACK TO US ONCE YOU MAKE ALL THOSE CHANGES? YES. THEY'LL BE VERY SPECIFIC LINE ITEMS. I DON'T ANTICIPATE BRINGING THE ENTIRE THING BACK BECAUSE IT CAN GET KIND OF CONFUSING, BUT WE'LL SAY LIKE, WE'RE ADDING THIS LINE, WE'RE GOING TO SUBTRACT THIS LINE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT SORT OF THING, AND WE'LL MAKE IT VERY CLEAR WHERE WE'RE TAKING IT OUT AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. BUT YEAH, RIGHT NOW I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE WHOLE. SECTION. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCUSS ANY AND ALL THINGS THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING. WHAT IS Y'ALL'S TIME FRAME LOOKING LIKE ASAP.
OKAY. WE JUST KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET SO AS KEVIN MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE HASN'T REALLY HAD ANY KIND OF UPDATES SINCE 2023. YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF IT HASN'T BEEN REALLY UPDATED SINCE. WELL, I CAN'T SAY IT THAT WAY. THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS ALL BUILT ON THE BONES OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2002. THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS CHANGES, YOU KNOW, THAT MISS ALI DID BEFORE. AND THEN I'VE DONE SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST 25 YEARS THAT THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE. AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'D EVENTUALLY LIKE TO GET A WHOLESALE REWRITE OF IT, BUT THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE THING TO DO, AND WE'RE NOT SURE THAT THAT'S NEEDED ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER IT COMPETES WITH OTHER NEEDS WITH THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY. YEAH. OTHER PRIORITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, UP TO DATE AND VERY USEFUL AND RELEVANT AND ALL THAT. BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO,
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TO MAKE SOME UPDATES TO IT. SO YEAH, WE'RE THREE YEARS SINCE WE'VE MADE LIKE ANY KIND OF MAJOR CHANGES TO IT. OKAY, WE CAN JUST EMAIL YOU. NO, WE NEED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT IN AN OPEN SETTING. OKAY. I MEAN, AT LEAST GET STARTED BY ALL MEANS. IF, IF ANYBODY HAS AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EMAIL ME THAT THE THE KEY HERE IS THAT WHATEVER I ASK YOU TO, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU PROPOSE, I WOULD ASK THAT WE KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE REAL QUICK AND JUST GET A YES OR NO SHAKE OF HEADS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, COMMISSIONER SCRUGGS SAID THAT HE THINKS THAT HAVING AN EVENT CENTER A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, WE JUST IF YOU WOULD JUST IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL VOTE, BUT IF YOU JUST GO DOWN THE LINE REAL QUICK. YEAH. YES, YES.NO, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT TO BRING. THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS BRING THE ORDINANCE, HAVE IT BE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE DISCUSSION STARTS, YOU KNOW, ON SPECIFICS. OH, 100%. SO THEN I GUESS THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW? I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IF YOU'RE READY.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SENT THIS OUT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU I MEAN, IF YOU WANT THAT, THAT'S YOUR CALL. YOU KNOW, AS A CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, JUST DISCUSS A FEW THINGS AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT. DEPENDING ON OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, I JUST HAVE THIS FEELING THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP THAT MAYBE GET JUST GET MORE THOUGHTS GET ADDED. BUT NO, DEFINITELY. I MEAN, WE CAN GO DOWN THE LIST AND START TALKING ABOUT SOME IF WE WANT TO. I MEAN, EVERYBODY GENERALLY ON BOARD WITH THE EVENT CENTER IDEA, THE DISTANCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WELL, JUST THE WELL, YEAH, THE USE THE USE, YES I WOULD. SO I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. YOU MENTIONED EVENT CENTER AND THEN HE BROUGHT UP 500FT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER DESIGNATIONS FOR PROPERTIES IN HERE THAT CAN ALSO HOST EVENTS. SO WOULD THEY HAVE TO IF THEY WANT TO START HOSTING EVENTS THAT THEY MAY NOT ALREADY BE LICENSED TO DO, DO THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING EVENT OF A CERTAIN SIZE OR SO? GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE. SO YOU HAVE CLUBS, LODGES, WE HAVE GLEN ECHO BREWER, OTHER PLACES THAT ARE HOSTING EVENTS THAT HAVE 100 PLUS PEOPLE AT THEM. HOW DO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATION? WE WOULD CONSIDER LIKE I'LL SAY, OKAY, SO I'LL PICK ON GLEN ECHO.
OKAY. AND THEY HAVE A SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT'S SAINT PATRICK'S DAY. I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INTERESTING OVER THERE TONIGHT. THAT IS JUST AN ACCESSORY THAT IS PART OF THEM DOING THEIR BUSINESS. OKAY. IT'S WHEN YOUR SOUL, NOT SOUL. YOUR PRIMARY USE IS TO HOSTING EVENTS IS HOSTING EVENTS. OKAY. THAT'S WHEN THIS WOULD FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHY I WANTED CLARIFICATION BECAUSE YES, BUT IF IT'S ANCILLARY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE EVENTS BECAUSE YOU DO OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LAND AND WINERY WILL PICK ON THE OTHER ALCOHOL SERVING PLACE DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, THEY HOST CHAMBER COMMERCE MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. ALL AND DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION WEDDINGS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THEIR PRIMARY BUSINESS. IT MAY BE A BIG PART OF BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE OPEN AS A WINERY FIRST, A DISTILLERY OR A BREWERY FIRST. SO DOES THAT CLARIFY IT FOR YOU, SIR? IT DOES. OKAY, THAT'S ENOUGH CLARITY FOR ME, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH SOMETHING NEW THAT THEY DON'T ALSO NEED TO DO SPECIAL USE CASES FOR EVENTS THAT THEY MAY WANT TO HOST THERE. IT'S PART OF THEIR FUNCTION, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. WHAT COMMISSIONER SCRUGGS BROUGHT UP, I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF A DISTANCE FROM SINGLE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCE AT LEAST. OKAY. YEAH, I GUESS IF THAT'S WHAT IS A LARGE GROUP THERE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD. OKAY, SO I'M HEARING DISTANCE. AND THEN WHAT COMMISSIONER BLACK SAID DEFINITION WILL WILL WRITE THE DEFINITION SUCH A WAY THAT IT EXCLUDES. IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IT EXCLUDES THE PLACES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. ACCESSORY. YEAH.
ACCESSORY STYLE. ANY INPUT ON YOUR SIDE? OTHER THAN SUPPORT MAYBE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER USES BESIDES MINING THAT YOU THAT STOOD OUT LIKE LANDFILL? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO COME UP WITH TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP. I DON'T. OKAY, I'LL LOOK AT THAT ONE. AND I ONLY SAY LOOK AT BECAUSE WE STILL WE DON'T HAVE AN OPERATING LANDFILL IN WILEY, BUT WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING. IT'S A CLOSED LANDFILL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. IT'S
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THE PROPERTY ON THAT'S ON ALANIS WHERE KIND OF WHERE THE CURVE IS. ON ONE SIDE IS THE OLD WATER TREATMENT PLANT. ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE BIG OPEN AREA THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN A LOT OF BRUSH GETS PUT IN AFTER WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR DECADE HAILSTORM OR, YOU KNOW, WINDSTORM OR WHATEVER, THAT CITY CLEANUP THING THAT IS ACTUALLY AN OLD LANDFILL IT'S BEEN CLOSED FOR. I MEAN, IT WAS CLOSED WHEN I MOVED HERE 26, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS. SO BUT I BELIEVE DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, BUT I THINK T-C-E-Q RULES ARE IT'S GOT TO BE CLOSED 30 BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN DO ANYTHING ON IT. SO. BUT I'LL TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHETHER IF WE CAN GET RID OF THAT, BY ALL MEANS, I'LL GET RID OF IT. EVEN THOUGH WE TECHNICALLY KIND OF HAVE A CLOSED ONE HERE. YEAH. MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS KIND OF THE SAME THING WITH THE MINING.LIKE THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOMEBODY COMING IN ASKING FOR A NEW ONE, ASKING FOR ONE IS SLIM. YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD PUT IT, BUT OKAY. THAT ONE HAD STUCK OUT TO ME. OKAY. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE. IT WAS JUST THERE WAS A COUPLE THAT, LIKE I SAID, REALLY STOOD OUT. AND IF KEVIN AND I IN OUR RESEARCH, FIND OTHER THINGS THAT CAN OR SHOULD GO AWAY, WE'LL DEFINITELY MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT IN THE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT SEPARATING DRIVE THRUS? JUST PERIOD? LIKE IF YOU HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THAT WAY THEY'VE GOT TO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO THAT. IT GETS MORE SCRUTINY, OKAY. AND VISIBILITY WITH WITH US AND WITH THE CITY, WITH THE WITH THE WE WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. STAFF THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA ON SEVERAL LEVELS.
ONE'S KIND OF MINOR. YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE PEDESTRIAN AND, AND VEHICLE INTEGRATION TO A CERTAIN POINT, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY MUCH AN AUTO CENTRIC COMMUNITY. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER PART THOUGH IS AUTO DRIVE THRUS JUST DO GENERATE A LOT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S A DRIVE THROUGH QUITE A LOT. IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS. AND THE OTHER THING IS, IS BECAUSE IT'S VEHICLE CENTERED AND I'M GOING TO PICK ON STARBUCKS AND DUTCH BROS, LIKE DUTCH BROTHERS LITERALLY USED A ACRE AND A HALF. NOW IT'S WHAT'S IT'S BETTER AND IT GENERATES A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SALES TAX REVENUE THAN WHAT WAS SITTING THERE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN IN WILEY FOR A LONG TIME, IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT USED TO BE THERE. BUT THAT BEING SAID, BECAUSE IT'S A AUTO CENTRIC TYPE OF USE, YOU END UP WITH A REALLY SMALL BUILDING ON A REALLY LARGE LOT, YOU KNOW, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE FREE MARKET, THEY'RE MAKING THEIR MONEY AND THEY PAID FOR IT AND THEY BUILT IT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE FEEL THAT NOT JUST THE PEDESTRIAN AUTO, BUT ALSO AUTO TRAFFIC AND HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH. THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND BY MAKING THEM SOME PIECE THAT GIVES BOTH PNC COUNCIL AND COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL OVER THE ZONING EXHIBIT.
BECAUSE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF A SITE PLAN COMES IN AND IT IS TECHNICALLY CORRECT, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO APPROVE IT. BUT IF IT'S A ZONING CASE, THEN THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERSIGHT AND INSIGHT THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR CERTAIN AREAS. AND NOT ALL OF THEM NEED THAT. YOU KNOW, IT COULD JUST BE A QUICK REVIEW. BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER PLACES WHERE IT'S MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE, YOU KNOW, AND IT MIGHT NEED THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING IT AND RECOMMENDING IT. BUT BY ALL MEANS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS, THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH, I THINK SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY THAT ONE IS. YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH THAT ONE. OKAY. I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I DO LIKE THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT TRAVELING SHOW CARNIVAL OR CIRCUS. I SAW THAT AT THE VERY END. OKAY, SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE STILL HAVE THAT EVERY YEAR. AND SEVERAL OF THEM. AND THE ONE THAT I'LL POINT TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST VISIBLE ONE IS THE CROSS CHURCH. YEP. HAS THEIR LITTLE, I WAS GOING TO SAY SHINDIG, BUT I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY. BUT YEAH, THEIR CARNIVAL EVERY YEAR. AND YEAH, SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN LEFT IN THEIRS BECAUSE WE STILL DO HAVE THOSE ON OCCASION WE COULD USE GO THROUGH WITH A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT KIND OF THING. BUT IT, IF WE TAKE IT OUT, WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE IT WHEN IT DOES GO AWAY, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO THAT USE, THEN IT DOES BECOME EITHER A PD OR IT BECOMES A ZONING CASE AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I AGREE THAT MINING AND LANDFILLS PROBABLY SHOULD BE ZONING CASES.
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YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE STATES, ESPECIALLY WITH AS MUCH RESIDENTS AS WE HAVE OTHER THINGS, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TEMPORARY ONE OR FOR THE TRAVELING SHOW? YEAH.YEAH. THEY ALREADY HAVE TO GET TEMPORARY. YEAH. THEY DO HAVE TO GET A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT EVERY YEAR. YEAH. I'M FINE LEAVING IT AS TEMPORARY. IT'S JUST KIND OF CALLING OUT THAT WE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT IN THE ORDINANCE LIST ITSELF. WHAT WAS THAT? I'M SORRY. I WAS SAYING WE JUST CALL IT OUT. I LIKE THAT WE CALL IT OUT AS SPECIFICALLY IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF THAT YOU NEED A TEMPORARY PERMIT FOR THAT IF YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY HOST IT.
OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M KIND OF MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. NO. YEAH. I'M SAYING KEEP IT. YES. YEAH.
I ENJOY CARNIVALS. SO. GOING THROUGH THIS ONE, THE ONLY ONE THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS E NINE.
YOU TOOK MINE. YEAH. I WAS IN THE. YES. THAT'S WHY I WAS WAITING. NO, THE SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, IT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN HIGH INDUSTRIAL. YES, YES. SO YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT EXCLUDING CERTAIN BUSINESSES FROM BEING ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, EVEN BY. RIGHT. AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED IN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE'S A LITTLE ASTERISK. SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF. CONDITIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH ALL OF THAT. I WILL SAY AS A LITTLE ADDED THING, THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY TWO OWNERS OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY INSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF WILEY ARE THE NORTH TEXAS MINIMAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE RAILROAD. THERE IS NO OTHER HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONE DISTRICTS.
SO THEORETICALLY, IF ANYBODY WANTED TO HAVE A SOB, THEY WOULD NEED TO REZONE A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. ANYWAY, AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW. THIS JUST CAUGHT MY EYE. YEAH.
NO, THAT'S I WAS JUST MORE NOT EVEN SO MUCH KNOCKING IT OUT OF INSTEAD OF PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITH CONDITIONS DO AN S U P OKAY. BUT I DON'T I MEAN I'LL, I'LL LOOK AT THAT. THE THE ISSUE CAN BE. THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE. CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED. AND SO SAYING THAT YOU'VE GOT NOWHERE IN TOWN THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IS CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. BUT YOU CAN PUT RESTRICTIONS ON. YES YOU CAN. NOW THAT BEING SAID, THOSE RESTRICTIONS CAN BE CHALLENGED. AND AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN CHALLENGED ON ON THAT. SO WE LIKE TO KEEP THOSE TO A MINIMUM SPECIAL USE PERMIT. MY ONLY QUESTION, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT LIKE THERE'S TWO AREAS THAT ARE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. IF THEY WERE TO SELL OFF A PIECE, I WOULD STILL BE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. OKAY, LET ME LOOK AND SEE. IF I JUST IMAGINE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE YELLED AT IF SUV OKAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED.
WE'LL DO SOME RESEARCH AND SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO SGP ONLY. AND WE MAY. IF WE DO THAT, WE MAY HAVE TO. I MAY GET SOME ADVICE THAT SAYS SOMETHING ALONG AND I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT WE MIGHT GET SOME ADVICE THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD IT TO THE LI DISTRICT ALSO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEN STILL KEEP IT AN S U P, YOU KNOW, AND THAT. SO BUT LET ME CHECK. I'M SURE LEGAL WOULD LOVE THIS. YEAH, THAT I AM DEFINITELY. THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL HAVE TO GET SOME ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON BEFORE I DECIDE TO MAKE TOO MANY CHANGES. WHAT ABOUT MANUFACTURED HOME PARKS? THOSE ALSO FALL INTO THAT SAME KIND OF CATEGORY IN THAT TEXAS HAS AN ENTIRE SECTION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH MOBILE HOME PARKS. AND SO I DEFINITELY CAN LOOK
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INTO IT. BUT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WORKS. SO I'M HESITANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ADDED. I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER HAVE ANY ADDED. YOU KNOW, THERE'S IN FACT, THEY ACTUALLY THE ONES WE HAVE, THEY'RE FINDING OTHER USES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE MURPHY OIL, YOU KNOW, AND THE CAR WASH THAT'S COMING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF A MOBILE HOME PARK, YOU KNOW, AND WE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO JUST DISPLACE PEOPLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN THE LAND BECOMES MORE AND MORE VALUABLE THAN OTHER PEOPLE FIND OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET DECIDES THAT THERE'S OTHER USES FOR IT. SO, BUT IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT, BY ALL MEANS, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. STILL HAVE THE MANUFACTURED HOMES. YES.ANYBODY, ANYBODY. IF THEY MEET THE, THE, THE, THE BASE ZONING REQUIREMENTS CAN PUT A MOBILE HOME PRETTY MUCH ON ANY LOT. I MEAN, IN THAT STATE LAW, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MEETING THE BUILDING CODES, YOU KNOW, WHICH CAN BE DONE. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF HAVE THE TWO USES. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A MOBILE HOME AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MOBILE HOME PARK. BECAUSE THE OTHER THING WITH. THE MOBILE HOME PARKS, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE REGULATIONS FOR IS I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ONES THAT HAVE THE EXISTING ONES ARE VERY DIFFICULT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO MANEUVER THROUGH, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT TO OLDER STANDARDS. YOU KNOW, FIRE TRUCKS HAVE GOTTEN BIGGER AND WIDER. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO, ESPECIALLY AS YOUR CITY GROWS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL SEEN WHERE FIRE STATION TWO, THEY HAD TO SPEND SOME MONEY TO MAKE THE GARAGE EIGHT FEET LONGER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A TALLER LADDER BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TALLER BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF WYLIE NOW. AND BUT THE THING IS, THOSE SAME FIRE TRUCKS RESPOND TO ALL EMERGENCIES. AND GETTING THEM IN AND OUT OF THOSE OLDER ONES, YOU KNOW, CAN BE DIFFICULT. BUT WE DO HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY ARE BUILT, THEY'RE BUILT TO, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S STANDARDS. BUT YEAH, I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. ANYTHING ELSE STAND OUT TO ANYBODY THAT. THOSE ARE MINE.
OKAY. TWO OF THEM ARE STOLEN FROM ME, BUT THAT'S OKAY. WELL, THAT MEANS EVERYBODY'S THINKING, OH, THAT'S A GOOD THING. I'M THINKING THE SAME THING. THE LAST THING I WANT TO HAVE IS EVERY COMMISSIONER HAS THEIR ONE THING AND NOBODY ELSE AGREES WITH IT. THEN THAT MAKES MY LIFE. OH IT'S GREAT. NONE OF US ARE A LOT OF FUN ARGUING ABOUT ANYTHING. THAT'S GOOD. WE GOT A GOOD COMMISSION. YEAH, THAT'S. I MEAN, WE'LL DO THAT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR. BUT I PREFER NOT TO. NO. IT'S AWESOME. ONE QUESTION I HAVE HERE THAT I JUST GOING THROUGH THIS, DO WE HAVE TO DO ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS FOR SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS OR PLACES THAT ALLOW SMOKING. NO, WE'VE GOT THAT PRETTY MUCH LOCKED DOWN I THINK. OKAY. WHEN I SAY LOCKED DOWN, I MEAN THAT ALL OF OUR RULES GIVE WHOEVER IS INTERESTED IN DOING THOSE THINGS A VERY CLEAR SET OF REGULATIONS TO KNOW WHEN AND WHERE THEY CAN'T DO IT. WE HAVE HAD SOME INTEREST IN ANOTHER HOOKAH LOUNGE IN TOWN, YOU KNOW, IN THAT SORT OF THING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE CIGAR SHOP OPEN UP DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING. SO IT'S WE FEEL THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PLACES OPEN SINCE WE REDESIGNED THE AND IMPLEMENTED THE NEW REGULATIONS THAT IT'S FLOWED VERY WELL, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IS WHEN SOMEBODY DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE HERE AND WE WANT IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM, YOU KNOW, SO AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING PRETTY WELL. SO I DON'T THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ANYTHING ELSE.
UNLESS WE. I GUESS, I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. SO OKAY, WE WOULD, I GUESS Y'ALL MAKE SOME CHANGES, WRITE THEM UP AND THEN NEXT MEETING OR SO AT SOME POINT, I THINK IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, WE'VE GOT GOOD ENOUGH DIRECTION ON THESE THAT
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I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'LL ONCE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE KNOW WE'RE FAR ENOUGH ALONG.WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE IT AS A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SO WE CAN GET THESE TO YOU AND WE CAN YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES AT THAT TIME. YEAH, YOU DEFINITELY CAN MAKE CHANGES.
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S WRITTEN IN STONE. AND THEN THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TO COUNCIL. BUT I KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN A COUPLE OF THESE ALSO. SO THE SOONER THE BETTER. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IT'LL BE A MONTH. WE CAN'T IT WON'T BE NEXT MEETING. IT'LL BE AT LEAST I GUESS. WELL ACTUALLY FIVE WEEKS BECAUSE THIS MONTH HAS 4 OR 5 TUESDAYS IN IT. SO FIVE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING THIS TO YOU. WITH ALL THE CHANGES SET IN PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. COOL. THANK YOU SIR. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE A MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I GUESS WE CAN CLOSE UP. I MOVE, WE ADJOURN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND TO ADJOURN. PLEASE VOTE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.