[Zoning Board of Adjustment on February 16, 2026.]
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TO CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 16TH MEETING. REGULAR MEETING FOR THE WILEY ZONE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND THAT IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 15TH, 2025. MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. CHAIR, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU CAN CAST YOUR VOTE FOR THAT MOTION. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST BY DAVID KLYCE FOR THE VARIANCE OF SECTION 5.18 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR A REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM PARKING FOR SAND AND INTERNATIONAL. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 601 SAND AND BOULEVARD. ZBA NUMBER 20 2517. KEVIN. YES. GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS A SAND AND INTERNATIONAL, IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO THEIR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 601 SAND AND BOULEVARD. ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THEY'RE PLANNING ON SELLING A PORTION OF THEIR LAND, WHICH WOULD PUT THEM UNDERNEATH THE MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING, WHICH IS 315 PARKING SPACES. OR THEY'RE ASKING FOR 315 PARKING SPACES IN LIEU OF WHAT'S REQUIRED, WHICH IS 409 PARKING SPACES. THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LETTER STATING THAT REALLY ALL THEY NEED ARE 200 SPACES, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE 315 THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE REMAINING. THEY ALSO HAVE STATED THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THEIR TRAFFIC FLOW, AND THAT WITH THIS CHANGE, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS AND FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. AND HERE ARE EXAMPLES ALSO OF AREAS WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING IF IT'S NEEDED. SO THIS WOULD GO ON WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY GREEN SPACE. AND THAT'S THE THE PARKING THAT'S IN BOLD RIGHT. AND SO THIS IS ONE POSSIBILITY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THESE AREAS THAT ARE SHADED IN RED WHERE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY ADD MORE PARKING TO THE SITE.
IF I CAN ALSO PROVIDE AN AERIAL IMAGE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THAT SPLIT IS HAPPENING. YOU SEE WHERE THIS YELLOW LINE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS? THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE REMOVED, BECAUSE THAT LAND IS GOING TO BE SOLD TO DIFFERENT DEVELOPER. AND THAT NEW DEVELOPER WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. SO WE DID MAIL 27 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING BACK, ANYTHING IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION. SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND ALSO KNOW THAT SAND AND INTERNATIONAL WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A SITE PLAN IN THE FUTURE FOR THEIR MODIFIED PARKING WHERE THAT SPLITS HAPPENING. SO IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKED AT MORE THAN THIS. SO KEVIN, HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE WILL BE REQUIRED TO RESUBMIT OR TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN ONCE THEY MAKE THIS SALE, IS THIS REQUESTING SORT OF PREMATURE, THEN? NO, NO IT'S NOT BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY COULDN'T SELL THE LAND. THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE CREATING A NONCONFORMITY BY SELLING THE LAND AND LIMITING THEIR PARKING. THAT'S WHY IT'S NEEDED AT THIS TIME BEFORE THE SALE IS DONE.
THE SITE PLAN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE APPROVED BY PNC BECAUSE THE PARKING WOULDN'T BE ADEQUATE WITHOUT THIS VARIANCE. SO THIS HAS TO COME FIRST. AND THIS VARIANCE IS NECESSITATED BECAUSE OF THE CONTEMPLATED SALE OF A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT? AND AS THEY
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SHOWED, LIKE KEVIN SHOWED, AN EXHIBIT, WE'VE RELIED. SO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY, PROBABLY ABOUT 12 OR 13 YEARS AGO STAFF SUBMITTED A. AN A ZONING ADJUSTMENT AMENDMENT ADJUSTMENT TO FOR PARKING BECAUSE SO MANY PLACES WERE OVER PARKED. AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, SAND IS WAY OVER PARKED. SO WE'VE RELIED MORE ON THE APPLICANTS OF LARGER BUSINESSES TO KIND OF TELL US HOW MUCH PARKING THEY NEED. WE DO GUIDE WE. THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE FOR LIKE MOM AND POP SHOPS OR, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIALS WHERE FOLKS JUST DON'T REALLY KIND OF REALIZE, YOU KNOW HOW OR YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THEY NEED. SO SAND IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 400 AND SOME PARKING SPACES WE WANT TO REDUCE TO 315, WHICH IS STILL AND THEN WE ONLY NEED 200. AND JUST IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. YEAH, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM ON THE PROPERTY TO GO AHEAD AND ADD PARKING BACK. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF I FINISHED MY STORY. I GOT SIDETRACKED, BUT THE ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO WE CHANGED THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO TRY TO HELP REDUCE PARKING. INDUSTRIAL WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T TOUCH JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY 1 TO 1000 AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T ADEQUATELY ADDRESS SOME OF THE LARGER BUILDINGS. YOU KNOW, SAND IS AN EXCEPTION IN TOWN JUST BECAUSE OF HOW LARGE THAT BUILDING IS. I DON'T THERE'S MAYBE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS IN ALL OF WILEY THAT ARE THAT LARGE, YOU KNOW. OKAY. SO. PUT BACK UP THE LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE. OKAY.I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE THIS LETTER. AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT THE FACTUAL REPRESENTATIONS IN THE LETTER ARE CORRECT IN THAT STAFF IS VERIFIED. WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTING HERE IN THE LETTER. OKAY. YEAH. WE'VE LOOKED AT. THE BEST I CAN SAY. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE GONE TO IF YOU LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KIND OF GO BACK DIFFERENT DATES. AND EVERY DAY THEY'VE SHOT IT. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT WE HAVE A PROGRAM AT THE CITY OF WILEY CALLED NEARMAP, WHICH BASICALLY OVERFLIES THE CITY OF WILEY ABOUT EVERY FOUR MONTHS. AND MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S DURING THE WEEK, DURING THE DAY, BUT NOT ALWAYS. AND WE'VE WENT BACK AND LOOKED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS JUST LOOKING AT OVERHEADS. AND WE'VE NEVER SEEN THAT PARKING LOT EVEN REMOTELY. SO I CAN'T SAY, HAVE WE GONE THERE AND ACTUALLY COUNTED CARS EVERY DAY? NO, THAT WOULD BE WRONG. BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE, YOU KNOW, DONE SOME DUE SOME, SOME DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO CONFIRM WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED. OKAY. AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THE. SO THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, THE PARAGRAPH WITH THE HEADING OF BACKGROUND AND CURRENT CONDITIONS. SO THERE THERE'S AND LET ME ASK THE REPRESENTATIONS HERE IN THE LETTER IS AS THE LAND SITS TODAY. WITHOUT FACTORING IN THE CONTEMPLATED SALE. IS THAT CORRECT. YEAH OKAY. THIS IS 100 SURPLUS PARKING SPACES. OKAY.
SO SO GIVEN THE CURRENT USE OF THE THE LAND AND OR THE PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE 217 SPACES APPROXIMATELY. IS THAT. AND I'M GOING WITH THAT THAT PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS RECENT CHANGES IN FUTURE CONDITIONS WHERE THEY SAID THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 317, WHICH IS STILL 100 EXTRA. SO I'M ASSUMING FACTUALLY THAT ALL THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IS 217 OR SO SPACES. THERE'S STILL OVER PARKED FOR, FOR THEIR BUSINESS. RIGHT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE 217 NEEDED SPACES WHEN THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING 317. RIGHT. SO THAT'S OKAY. I SAY OVER PARKED. THAT MEANS WHAT FOR THE RECORD. BUT IT'S OVER PARKED IN THIS CONTEXT. THEY DON'T THEY HAVE EXCESS PARKING OKAY. ESSENTIALLY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO, MR. MOLINA, THE APPLICANT IS HERE. YES. WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? YES, SIR. CHOICE. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. DANIEL KLEISS, FACILITY MANAGER AT CNN INTERNATIONAL. VERY GOOD.
ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO KNOW ABOUT THIS REQUEST, DANIEL? YEAH. SO AS OF TODAY, PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, WE HAVE 213 IS OUR HEAD COUNT. AND THAT'S BETWEEN TWO SHIFTS. OKAY. SO AS I STATED, 317 JUST GAVE US A LITTLE BUFFER. AND THAT ALSO DIDN'T INCLUDE OUR UNDERGROUND PARKING WHICH IS EIGHT ADDITIONAL SPOTS. SO WE'RE PROJECTED TO CLOSE ON THIS
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PROPERTY COME AUGUST SEPTEMBER TIME FRAME. AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL NEED THIS WHILE WE WORK ON OUR SITE PLANS. AND WITH THE POTENTIAL BUYER OF THOSE OTHER LOTS TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONSTRUCT THINGS IN THE FUTURE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME PLANS FOR OUR PARKING AND WE WILL ADD THEM. WE'RE JUST ASKING NOT TO DO IT NOW, ESPECIALLY IF THE SALE ENDS UP NOT GOING THROUGH.THEN WE'RE WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY NEEDED. SO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. VERY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KLEISS. YES. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS BUSINESS IS IN TERMS OF WHAT SERVICE IS PROVIDED BY THE BUSINESS. BUT READING THE PARAGRAPH IT TALKS ABOUT RECENT CHANGES IN FUTURE CONDITIONS. IT TALKS ABOUT SPACES FOR EMPLOYEES, VISITORS AND SERVICE VEHICLES. SO SO I TRY TO ASSUME FROM THAT THEN THIS IS NOT A BUSINESS WHERE CUSTOMERS WILL COME IN. CORRECT. CLOSE FACILITY. OH, SO WE'RE A MANUFACTURING FACILITY. CHANGE THIS. SO LIKE EVEN THAT THAT FRONT BUILDING THAT'S KIND OF HALF HALF MOON SHAPE. IT'S 78,000 SQUARE FOOT. THERE'S ONLY 30 PEOPLE INSIDE THAT BUILDING. MOST OF IT IS TEST BENCHES. PART OF IT'S UNOCCUPIED. AND THEN OUR MANUFACTURING, WHICH IS SQUARE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE HOUSED. AND THAT'S 470,000 SQUARE FOOT. BUT MOST OF IT'S ALL PRODUCTION. SO IT'S IN BETWEEN MULTIPLE SHIFTS.
YEAH. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU SIR. ONE OTHER QUESTION. YES. YOU HAVE ACCESS CONTROL ON YOUR PARKING SO NO ONE COMES IN AND OUT EXCEPT CORRECT STAFF. YEP, YEP. WE HAVE SECURITY 24 OVER SEVEN. EVERYONE HAS THEIR PARKING PASSES. WE HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FTC AND C-TPAT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL MOVE TO BOARD DISCUSSION. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS OR WE CAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION AS WELL. MR. CHAIR, ASSUMING THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOARD MEMBERS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MATTER AS SUBMITTED BY STAFF. WE HAVE A MOTION AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MR. CHAIR? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO CASTING VOTES ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. THAT MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM.
OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM OF THE EVENING IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST BY SHAWN ROBLE FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION THREE, DASH FOUR OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR A FRONT SETBACK OF 17FT EIGHT INCHES IN LIEU OF THE 25FT FOR A DETACHED CARPORT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1103 CEDAR LAKE COURT. THE ZBA NUMBER IS 2025 DASH 18, MR. MOLINA. YES, SIR. SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE FRONT SETBACKS OF A HOME. THIS IS LOCATED AT 1103 CEDAR LAKE COURT. AND ESSENTIALLY THE 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACK IS FOR THE FRONT OF A HOME. BUT SINCE THEY'RE ASKING FOR A CARPORT THAT'S ATTACHED, IT BECOMES PART OF THE PRIMARY HOME AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 17FT, EIGHT INCHES IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED 25FT. THE CARPORT MEASURES ARE APPROXIMATELY 420FT■!S, AND THIS SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF IT. WITH THE SURVEY. AND SO THIS JUST SHOWS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE POST WOULD BE. BUT THEN, THEN THIS IS A AN ELEVATION OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THE ROOF LINE DOES TIE IN WITH THE EXISTING HOMES, AND SO IT WILL MATCH THE LOOK OF THE HOME. AND THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF WHAT THE HOUSE CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. IT'S AT 1103. SO THE ONE CLOSER TOWARDS THE MIDDLE. ESSENTIALLY THE PURPOSE OF SETBACKS IS REALLY TO PROVIDE SEPARATION FROM THE ROADWAY AND TO ALLOW FOR A SUFFICIENT PARKING AREA. WITH THIS BEING A CARPORT, VEHICLES COULD STILL PARK UNDERNEATH. THE APPLICANT DOES BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A HARDSHIP SINCE THERE ISN'T AN IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE THIS ENDS IN A CUL DE SAC. THERE IS NOT MUCH TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE STREET, AND IT ISN'T ENCROACHING ON THE ACTUAL RIGHT OF WAY. WITH IT STILL BEING 17FT AWAY. THEY DID PROVIDE A LETTER AS WELL, AND
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WE DID MAIL 20 NOTICES AND RECEIVED ONE IN OPPOSITION ACROSS THE STREET OR A STREET OVER FROM FROM WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS. AND WE DID GET FIVE IN FAVOR. SO THE CHECK MARKS ARE IN FAVOR THE X IS AGAINST. SO THAT HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET WAS IN FAVOR, CORRECT? YES. THIS ONE. ALL THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET EXCEPT 1105 WAS THE ONLY ONE. WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING SO GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOLINA AND THE. I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE X REPRESENT AGAIN ON THE THE CUL DE SAC DRAWING YOU HAD THERE A SECOND AGO TO SHOW THE LOTS. THIS IMAGE OF X, X THE X THAT'S ON DEER LAKE COURT. LET ME SEE IF THEY PROVIDED. IT MEANS THAT THEY WERE AGAINST THE REQUEST. YEAH, THEY WERE AGAINST THE REQUEST. BUT. BUT THEY'RE ON THE STREET OVER. WELL IS IT. WELL OKAY. IS HE EVEN IN THE ZONE THAT REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED. YEAH. IF YOU NOTICE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, IT'S JUST BARELY CROSSES THEIR PROPERTY. SO THEY HAVE TO GET A LETTER. SO YEAH IT BARELY TOUCHES IT. BUT IT'S WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. IS IT. 11 1103 YES. OKAY. THE ONE WITH THE OKAY HASH MARKS. THANK YOU. KEVIN. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION TOO, I GUESS ON IS THIS SO WOULD THIS BE CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR IT'S PERMANENTLY ADDED TO IT BECAUSE IT'S ATTACHED IT BECOMES PART OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. SO OKAY, IF IT WASN'T ATTACHED, IT WOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BE IN FRONT. IN FRONT OF THE FRONT WALL. YES. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. YEAH. WE DON'T ALLOW ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN FRONT YARDS. PERIOD. YEAH OKAY. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS IT HAS TO BE ATTACHED. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT CAN'T JUST BE LIKE ONE OF THOSE FLAT CARPORTS THAT SOMETIMES GETS OLD. IT'S MORE STRUCTURAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU CERTAINLY CAN IF YOU WANT TO.OKAY. COME ON. YOU STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU COME. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. MY NAME IS SEAN ROBLE. I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 1103 CEDAR LAKE COURT. I'M HERE TO REQUEST A SETBACK VARIANCE TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF RESIDENTIAL CARPORT. THE REASON FOR THE CARPORT IS TO PROVIDE VEHICLE PROTECTION. AS MANY AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE DEVASTATION OF TWO SEPARATE HAILSTORMS THAT RESULTED IN OUR VEHICLES BEING TOTALED. BOTH OF THEM. SO. AND THE CARPORT WOULD HELP PREVENT FUTURE DAMAGE WHILE MAINTAINING AN OPEN RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. MY PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE END OF A CUL DE SAC WHICH YOU SAW, WHICH GIVES IT A CURVED FRONTAGE AND AN IRREGULAR LOT SHAPE. THESE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TO BUILDABLE AREA. THE BUILDABLE AREA COMPARED TO STANDARD INTERIOR LOTS WHEN STANDARD FRONT AND SIDE YARD SETBACKS ARE APPLIED, THE SETBACK LINES CONVERGE, LIMITING REASONABLE PLACEMENT OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. AND HERE'S WHAT I AM REQUESTING FOR THE FOLLOWING MINIMUM VARIANCES. AS KEVIN MENTIONED, THE FRONT RIGHT SIDE SETBACK WOULD BE REDUCED FROM 25 TO 18 FOOT THREE, AND THE LEFT SIDE WOULD BE REDUCED FROM 17. PARDON ME, REDUCED DOWN TO 17 FOOT EIGHT INCHES. THE HARDSHIP PROMPTING THIS REQUEST IS DUE SOLELY TO THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LOT AND WAS NOT SELF-CREATED AT ALL. THE EXISTING HOME AND DRIVEWAY PLACEMENT, COMBINED WITH THE CUL DE SAC CONFIGURATION, RESTRICT THE PLACEMENT. UNDER CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS. THE PROPOSED CARPORT IS SHOWN ON THE SURVEY AND ALIGNS THE WITH THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. IT IS GOING TO BE A MODEST, OPEN SIDED AND RESIDENTIAL IN SCALE, AND THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL NOT OBSTRUCT VISIBILITY. IT WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH TRAFFIC, IT WILL NOT AFFECT DRAINAGE, NOR WILL IT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE. THE SURVEY SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED CARPORT IS FULLY CONTAINED WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES AND DOES NOT AFFECT NEIGHBORING LOTS AT ALL. IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE, WHICH WILL ALLOW REASONABLE USE OF MY UNIQUELY SHAPED PROPERTY WHILE MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED CARPORT WILL PROVIDE VEHICLE PROTECTION AND ADD VALUE TO MY HOME AS WELL, WITHOUT ALTERING THE NATURE OF THE PROPERTY. APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST UPHOLDS THE INTENT OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND DOES
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NOT GRANT A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO A PUBLIC HEARING. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MOVE TO BOARD DISCUSSION. ALSO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF ANYONE IS READY. ANY COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE NO COMMENTS ON THE BOARD. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS SUBMITTED BY STAFF AND THE AGENDA. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO A VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR THIRD AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING. THIS IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST BY KIRBY DELANO FOR A VARIANCE OF SECTION 8.3 OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT, 1999 DASH 39, PD NUMBER 99 DASH 39 TO ALLOW A FENCE HEIGHT OF EIGHT FEET AND TO ALLOW A FENCE EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3600 BARBERRY DRIVE, ZBA NUMBER 20 2519. MR. MERLINO YES, OUR THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW FOR A FENCE THAT'S EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT IN LIEU OF THE REQUIRED SIX FEET. THE SIX FOOT REQUIREMENT COMES FROM THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ORDINANCE 1999 DASH 39. THE.THIS IS A GENERAL LOOK OF WHERE THE FENCE WOULD BE LOCATED. THE APPLICANT DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE HOA STATING THAT THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE FENCE BEING EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT. IF THIS WERE AN APPLICATION THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED WITH STRAIGHT ZONING, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. THEY WOULDN'T NEED THE VARIANCE WITH THAT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DID MAIL 27 NOTICES AND DIDN'T RECEIVE, OR WE GOT ONE IN FAVOR FROM THE APPLICANT AND NONE IN OPPOSITION. SO THAT'S THE CHECK MARK. GOOD THAT I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SHE IS OKAY. YEAH. YOU YOU SAID YOU MAILED IT 27 NOTICES AND RECEIVED EXCEPT THE ONE FROM THE APPLICANT. NO. NONE IN OPPOSITION OR OPPOSITION? NO. AND THAT THE HOA HAS ISSUED A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL CONDITIONAL UPON US APPROVING OR ACTING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. CORRECT. AND THIS IS THE LETTER FROM THE HOA. OKAY. GREAT. AND AND YOU SAID KEVIN, FOR THE RECORD, BUT FOR THIS PROPERTY BEING IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, IF IT WERE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCES, THIS WOULD BE A MATTER OF RIGHT FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. MOLINA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
OKAY. VERY, VERY GOOD. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL MOVE TO BOARD DISCUSSION. ALSO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MR. CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM AS SUBMITTED.
I SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO A VOTE. THIS MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE FLYING RIGHT ALONG. WE HAVE ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM REMAINING.
THE FOURTH AND FINAL AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING IS TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A REQUEST BY CHRIS DAY FOR A VARIANCE TO SECTION 20 2-4 47 447 NINE AND AND SECTION 20 2-4 50 F OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THREE PAINTED WALL SIGNS OVER THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED. WALL SIGNAGE. SQUARE FOOTAGE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 2201 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD. THE ZBA NUMBER IS 2025 DASH 20 MR. MOLINA. YES, OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE FOR SIGNAGE. THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2201
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COUNTRY CLUB ROAD. THIS IS A GATEWAY COMMUNITY CHURCH WHICH IS RECENTLY HAS RECENTLY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REBRANDING TO HARVEST CITY CHURCH. AND WITH THAT, THEY NEEDED NEW SIGNAGE. AND RIGHT TODAY, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE THREE PAINTED WALL SIGNS.THE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE BEING NEEDED IS TO THE DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PAINTED. THE SIGN ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW PAINTED SIGNS. SO THAT'S ONE OF ONE OF THE REASONS THIS IS NEEDED. AND THEN IT'S ALSO THE SIZE, RIGHT.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED. SO IF YOU SEE THE THE CIRCLE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THEM. AND SO THIS IS THIS WOULD BE THE SIGN THAT'S FACING COUNTRY CLUB. AND THEN THESE TWO SIGNS IT TECHNICALLY WRAPS AROUND TWO FACES. SO THAT'S WHY IT COUNTS AS TWO SIDES TWO SIGNS WHEN IT'S REALLY ONE IT JUST WRAPS AROUND RIGHT. AND AND THEN THIS IS A STREET VIEW IMAGE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM FROM THE STREET. RIGHT. IT LOOKS THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A MODIFIED MONUMENT SIGN THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS VARIANCE.
THAT'S THAT'S A SEPARATE PERMIT. THIS IS A LETTER THAT THEY PROVIDED. I CAN GO BACK TO IT IN CASE Y'ALL HAVEN'T READ IT, BUT WE DID RECEIVE TWO THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. AND THERE WAS TWO IN FAVOR. AND THAT WAS OF 16 NOTICES THAT WE SENT OUT. YEAH.
SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SIGNAGE, THE SIGNS, THEY AREN'T PLANNED TO BE ILLUMINATED. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIT UP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE JUST PAINTED SIGNS. SO. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION KEVIN. SO THESE WILL NOT BE WITH LIGHTS IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND AM I CORRECT? I THOUGHT YOU HAD A PICTURE THERE THAT SHOWED THE DISTANCE FROM THE STREET TO WHERE THE THE SIGN IS IN THE BUILDING, 650FT. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IMAGE SHOWS.
IT'S 650FT. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. YOU SHOULD. THIS THE STREET. THE ACTUAL STREET RIGHT HERE.
OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WHEN WE DID THIS REVIEW, WE ALSO TOOK IN MIND THE RESIDENCE TO THE SOUTH. RIGHT. SO THEY ALSO PROVIDED THAT MEASUREMENT AS WELL. OKAY. WHICH IS AROUND 165FT. YOU CAN SEE IT I'M POINTING TO IT RIGHT NOW. SO OKAY. AND YOU SAID THAT THE COST OF THAT APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY NOTICES THE PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS.
THERE'S 16 NOTICES THAT WERE MAILED, TWO IN OPPOSITION, TWO IN FAVOR. OKAY. WHAT IS EDUCATORS. WHAT IS THE REASON THAT WE, THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOW, AS YOU SAID, FOR FOR THESE KIND OF SIGNS, FOR WHAT THE PAINTED OR IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT IS IT THAT NECESSITATES THE REQUEST OF THIS VARIANCE. SO REALLY IT'S JUST TO MAINTAIN A CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTIES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BIGGEST ONE IS SIGNS NOWADAYS HAVE BECOME WAYFINDING. THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT IN TO YOUR YOUR PHONE. EVERYBODY HAS A YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE DO. AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME PLACE, THAT'S HOW YOU GET THERE. AND THE CITY ASSUMES THAT, YES, YOU WANT A LITTLE BIT OF ADVERTISING, YOU KNOW, FOR A BUSINESS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE FINAL SIGN IS JUST TO GET YOU TO, TO, TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE IN A STRIP MALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU WANT TO SEE, OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF I'M LOOKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW IT IS. AND SO OUR OUR GOAL IS TO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION FROM PEOPLE WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF A SIGN, WHICH IS WHY WE, YOU KNOW, DO OUR BEST TO ENFORCE MOVING SIGNS. YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE SOME FLAGS, SIGNS. SOMEBODY PUT THEM OUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, A LITTLE. WE TRY TO GET THEM TO TAKE DOWN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF ILLUMINATED SIGNS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN AROUND THAT BY DOING A LITTLE WINDOW THINGS YOU'LL SEE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AROUND TOWN, BUT YOU DO NOT SEE FLASHING SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST HAVE TO BE ONE ILLUMINATED ILLUMINATED SIGN WITH A PARTICULAR THING. SO THE BIG THING IS, IS THAT IT'S NOT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE BUSINESS ITSELF FROM THE MOTORISTS, BECAUSE THAT'S DISTRACTING AND CAUSES A SAFETY ISSUE. THAT'S THAT'S OUR BIGGEST CONCERN. AND THEN THE OTHER PART ABOUT IT IS, IS JUST GENERAL ESTHETICS AND PROPERTY VALUE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BIG SIGNS ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN IN SOME CITIES WHERE THEY ALLOW THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND WHEN THEY'RE
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ALL OVER THE PLACE, IT JUST DISTRACTS FROM THE ESTHETIC OF THE CITY IN GENERAL. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE SIGNS THAT THE ORDINANCES THAT WE DO. OKAY. AND FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS GOING TO BE BOTH. IT'S A NON-INTRUSIVE AS WELL AS A NON ILLUMINATED SIGN. CORRECT? YES.THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. KEVIN, CAN I ASK MAYBE CAN YOU SPEAK TO MURALS.
AND THIS STATEMENT ABOUT MURALS BEING ALLOWED. SO WE CAN'T DO PAINTED SIGN BUT WE CAN DO MURALS. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN. SO A MURAL IS A LEGITIMATE PIECE OF ARTWORK, NOT A AND A. THAT IS. ESSENTIALLY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SPLITTING HAIRS PER SE, BUT. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A JUDGMENT CALL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S MORE OF A, A PIECE OF ART THAT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY ADVERTISE ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT IS PROVIDED IN A PARTICULAR BUILDING, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE OR, OR OR GOOD THAT IS. WELL, I'M GOING TO REPEAT MYSELF AND SAY PROVIDE IT AGAIN. YEAH. SORRY. SO SO MAYBE THE WORDS ON THIS SIGN. WELL AND ALSO THE LOGO BECAUSE IT IS A LOGO THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A IT'S BASICALLY A, YOU KNOW, AN ARGUMENT CAN BE MADE THAT THAT'S A, A STALK OF WHEAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE DOCTOR SWITZER WILL COME UP AND, YOU KNOW, HE'LL GIVE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY. BUT FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IS THAT YOU'RE ADVERTISING WHAT THIS IS AND YOU HAVE A LOGO. AND THAT'S WHY THE SIZE OF IT IS NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT IF ALL THERE WAS WAS, SAY, ACROSS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD STILL BE A THING, BUT IT COULD STILL BE A PIECE OF ARTWORK, YOU KNOW, OR IF IT WAS A WHEAT FIELD AND THAT'S ALL IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THEN MAYBE THAT MAYBE THAT'S A PIECE OF ARTWORK, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS, IN OUR OPINION, IS VERY OBVIOUSLY A A SIGN TO TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT TAKES PLACE HERE AND THE LOGO OF THAT PARTICULAR SERVICE. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. KEVIN, THIS MAY NOT BE INCREDIBLY RELEVANT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY CURIOUS. SO I KNOW ONE OF THE HARDSHIPS FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY STATED WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS SO FAR AWAY FROM COUNTRY CLUB ROAD AND JUST VISIBILITY. IT'S A GREAT PICTURE THAT YOU SAW THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT 650 THROW. WHAT IS THERE ANY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY DO WE KNOW? IS THAT RELEVANT TO THIS CONVERSATION? IS IT'S OWNED BY THEM. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S STILL OWNED BY THE CHURCH. THE CHURCH THEORETICALLY COULD BUILD MORE BUILDINGS THERE. BUT THIS PARTICULAR VARIANCE WOULD BE FOR THAT FOR THAT THESE SIGNS ON THAT BUILDING ONLY. OKAY. IF THE IF THE BOARD WERE TO GRANT A VARIANCE, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY CAN BUILD A NEW BUILDING AND PAINT THAT SIGN RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE IT JUST IS ON THAT BUILDING ITSELF. THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. AND BUT SO THE CHURCH OWNS ALL THIS PROPERTY. YES. PERFECT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. I'M CURIOUS. AND THIS IS A LETTER HERE FROM A. IT'S SIGNED BY A CHRIS. YEAH. CHRIS IS HERE THE AG OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT HE SAID HERE. IT SAYS THAT THERE ARE NO LIGHTS. OH HERE WE GO. UNDER MINIMAL IMPACT AND COMPATIBILITY. PARAGRAPH NON ILLUMINATED. NO INTERNAL LIGHTING, EXTERNAL LIGHTING, DIGITAL COMPONENTS. THAT SAYS NIGHTTIME. SOMEONE WANTS TO FIND THIS. HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU LOCATE THIS THING. IF THE SIGN IS THAT YOU SHOW TWO SIGNS ONE IS IN THE BUILDING, ONE IS IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LIKE A BOX. IS THAT ONE GOING TO BE ILLUMINATED? THAT'S THEIR MONUMENT SIGN. SO YEAH, IT CAN BE ILLUMINATED. AND IS THIS VARIANCE ASKING FOR BOTH THE FACADE ON THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THIS SMALL THIS THE MONUMENT SIDE ISN'T RELEVANT TO THIS VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE MONUMENT SIGN. THE ONE THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE MONUMENT SIGNS, THE ONE THAT'S FREESTANDING. THAT'S ALLOWED. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT ONE IS NOT PART OF THIS VARIANCE THAT IS BUILT COMPLETELY TO STANDARD. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST THE ONE IN THE BUILDING THERE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW. YES. YEAH. CHRIS WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP. AND JUST IF ANYBODY HAS ANY MORE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO THIS, TO THIS AGENDA ITEM, CERTAINLY STATE YOUR NAME. ABSOLUTELY. MY NAME IS CHRIS DAY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT HARVEST CITY CHURCH. AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING OUR REQUEST. I HAVE PASTOR BLAKE HERE AS WELL. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR PASTOR BLAKE WITH REGARDS TO THE VISION AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT FOR WITH REGARDS TO THE SPECIFICS HERE, THE 650 FOOT OFFSET IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST COMPONENT TO WHY WE WANT THE SIZE OF THE SIGN THAT WE DO.
AND AND TWO THINGS I KNOW. BACK TO THE MURAL QUESTION. THIS ISN'T TRYING TO ADVERTISE. WE
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ARE HARVEST CITY CHURCH. ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE A SIGN THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE THAT SAYS ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE OF THAT BUILDING THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE, THAT SAYS HARVEST CITY CHURCH. SO THAT'S WHO WE ARE. THIS TO US IS A STATEMENT OF OF WHAT WE BELIEVE AND AND WHAT WE FEEL. AND TO US IT IS ARTWORK. BUT I'LL LET YOU SPLIT THE HAIRS ON THAT. OOPS. PARDON ME THE BUT THE 650 FOOT OFFSET. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS FROM COUNTRY CLUB ROAD BACK TO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DISCUSSION POINTS IN THE IN THE STATEMENT. BUT DRIVING THROUGH AS A WAYFINDING PIECE HERE THAT SITTING 650FT AWAY FROM THE ROAD IS GOING TO ACTUALLY DRAW MORE PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND THAT, THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS VERSUS. AND WE HAVE THE MONUMENT THAT'S ON THERE AS WELL. BUT WE SIT BACK A LONG WAYS AND WE ARE OFTENTIMES CONFUSED WITH THE SCHOOL THAT'S SITS RIGHT BEHIND US, SMITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IN CASE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE HERE. AND SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF OF THE SIGNAGE BEING LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO BE SEEN. 100. AND I THINK WE WOULD BE AUTHORIZED SOMEWHERE AROUND 160, 170FT■!S, WHICH FROM COUNTRY CLUB WOULD LOOK LIKE A POSTAGE STAMP ON THE UPPER SIDE OF UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF A AN ENVELOPE. I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THE, FROM THE, FROM COUNTRY CLUB BECAUSE WE SET OFF SO FAR. BUT. I DO APPRECIATE LIKE WHAT YOU SAID THERE IN THE LETTER, UNDER THE PARAGRAPH OF THE HARDSHIPS AND PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I LIKE WHAT THE STATEMENT SAYS, THAT THE HARDSHIP SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST IS CREATED BY THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT OF THE SITE, NOT BY THE SELF-IMPOSED CONDITIONS. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR JUST FOR THE RECORD. SO THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. I HEARD THE SLIP THERE. THAT WAS AWESOME. THANK YOU RICHARD. FORGIVE ME. ANY CHRISTIANS. NO, HE WAS JUST RAISING HIM I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. WELL, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU CAN SPEAK FOR SURE. YEAH. JUST WAIT FOR IT. ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD FOR THE APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ABOUT THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM. COME FORWARD. YOU GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD. AND DO THEY NEED TO FILL OUT A REQUEST. HAS YOU ALREADY DONE THAT. HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A REQUEST? NO. YOU'LL DO IT AFTER OKAY. SO YOU'LL NEED TO FILL OUT A REQUEST. BUT YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER YOU MAKE YOUR REMARKS. SO RIGHT NOW JUST GO AHEAD AND COME TO THE PODIUM. STATE YOUR NAME UNDER THREE MINUTES. TELL US YOUR TELL US YOUR NAME. GIVE US YOUR REMARKS, AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO MOVE OVER HERE AND FILL OUT A REQUEST. NO, NO BIG DEAL. I'M ROD WILLIAMSON AND I'VE BEEN WITH THEM ON THIS PROJECT, BUT I, I JUST HAD A WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I WAS REALIZING THAT TOO MUCH GRAPHICS, TOO MUCH MOVEMENT, TOO MUCH LIGHT IS A DRIVING HAZARD. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT. BUT A SIGN THAT'S TOO SMALL IS ACTUALLY A DRIVING HAZARD TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT JUST GLANCING AT LOOK AT THE GREAT BIG ORANGE SIGN THAT SAYS, THAT'S THE CHURCH I JUST MISSED. YOU KNOW? AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A TINY LITTLE STAMP, THEY'RE SWERVING AND IT'S IT'S JUST AN ARGUMENT FOR THERE MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATENESS TO THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. BESIDES THE SIZE, THERE'S ALSO READABILITY. AND THAT'S ALL THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A LOGIC TO IT. AND THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SIR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER APPLICANTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE TO BOARD DISCUSSION. AND KEVIN, I THINK I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU. IF FOR SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE THEY DECIDED THEY DON'T, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY REBRAND, RIGHT. AND OR THEY THEIR, THEIR COLOR SCHEMES CHANGE WITH THIS VARIANCE. CAN THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THIS SIGN OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE. NO, IT BE TIED TO THIS VARIANCE, THE THE LOOK OF IT. SO IF THEY WERE GOING TO CHANGE IT IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. AT LEAST THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION.SO THIS IS JUST FOR THIS LOOK AND FOR THIS SIGN SPECIFICALLY OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS. NO. MISTER CHAIR. YES, SIR. NO QUESTIONS. IS THAT ONE OF THE APPLICANTS HAS A. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS WANTED TO TALK, BUT WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE HEARING. CAN THEY COME BACK HERE? I WILL SAY THIS MOST OF THE TIME. ANYBODY TALKING? YEAH, YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND IT. YEAH, WE'LL CALL
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THEM BACK. PART OF THE APPLICANT. BLAKE, IF YOU WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? I SAW YOUR HAND UP. ASK THE QUESTION. OH, YEAH. PLEASE JUST COME FORWARD. TELL US YOUR NAME.YOU'RE PART OF THE APPLICANT POOL, SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT NOW. MY NAME IS CHRIS STAGE. I JUST WANTED TO ASK ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. SO WE DO HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING ON OUR BUILDING. THERE WILL BE LIGHTS ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SAY IT'S A NON ILLUMINATED SIGN, THE SIGNS ITSELF ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE LIGHTS IN THEM. IN THEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR CLARITY, I WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE AWAY THAT THERE WILL BE NO LIGHT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THERE WILL BE LIGHT ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THERE ARE SECURITY LIGHTING. SO WHEN YOU SAY SECURITY, BUT THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING, IT DOES A SIGN OR NOT. CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. IT ALREADY EXISTS TODAY. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO WALK OUT OF HERE FEELING LIKE WE DIDN'T GIVE FULL DISCLOSURE. YEP. GREAT. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS I CLEARLY UNDERSTAND AND SEE THE HARDSHIP THAT THEY HAVE BEING THAT FAR FROM THE ROAD. SO. AND MR. CHAIR, I LIKE WHAT THE I THINK IT WAS THE PASTOR SAID A SMALL SIGN ALSO CREATE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE SQUINTING TRYING TO SEE WHAT IS THAT BUILDING OVER THERE. I'M GOING TO SLOW DOWN. BUT THERE'S BEEN SO LARGE AND SO FAR AWAY FROM THE ROAD, YOU KNOW. SO YEAH. SO, MISTER CHAIR, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BOARD DISCUSSION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS SUBMITTED BY STAFF. AND THE AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. SURE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE VOTE. AND THAT MOTION CARRIES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE END OF OUR ITEMS THIS EVENING. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO COVER AND THAT IS THE ADJOURNMENT. BUT BEFORE THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH? WE WILL HAVE A MEETING NEXT MONTH. WE'LL HAVE A MEETING FOR NEXT MONTH. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST THING THAT WE WILL ENTERTAIN IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN. AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION. WE ADJOURN. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND THAT MOTION
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