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THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE JANUARY 13TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AT THE WILEY MUNICIPAL CENTER.THE TIME IS 6:03 PM WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAS EITHER BEEN TURNED OFF OR IS SET TO VIBRATE SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS.
IF YOU DO GET A CALL, WHICH YOU NEED TO TAKE, WE ASK YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR, MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER.
COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. LET US KNOW HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING.
COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER, PRESENT MAYOR PRO TEM GINO MALECHI.
PRESENT WE HAVE A QUORUM MAYOR.
AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, WHICH I WILL LEAD, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, LED BY COUNCILMAN HOOVER.
DEAR LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON ALL OF US HERE.
WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO ELECT OUR LEADERS, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT AND WHERE WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND ARE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER THOSE WHO SERVE US AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO SACRIFICE SO MUCH FOR US AND PUT THEMSELVES ON THE LINE.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THOSE WHO SERVE IN OUR MILITARY AND KEEP US FREE TO ENJOY THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN AMERICA.
WE ASK THAT THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.
OUR PLEASURE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ALL.
[PR1. Shining the Wylie Way Students - Term 2.]
OF BUSINESS TODAY ARE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE LOOKING OUT A LOT OF YOU ARE HERE FOR THIS EVENING.SO WE WILL GET STARTED, OF COURSE, WITH OUR SHINING THE WILEY WAY STUDENTS AND I WILL ASK.
WE HAVE FROM OUR WILEY ISD SCHOOL BOARD, MS. KYLIE RISING HERE TO ASSIST ME THIS EVENING AS WELL AS SUPERINTENDENT DR. KIM SPICER.
SOMEHOW COUNCILMAN THIS GOT HIS COMPUTER TO TALK TO HIM OVER THERE, SO I DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD EVEN DO THAT.
SO IF YOU HEAR AN ODD VOICE IN THE BACKGROUND, JUST BLAME HIM.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL CALL EVERYONE DOWN ONE AT A TIME AND I WILL READ BOTH THEM THEIR SCHOOL THEY'RE COMING TO US FROM AND WHAT WAS SAID BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO NOMINATED THEM FOR THIS AWARD.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
WE HAVE A MEDAL AND CHALLENGE COINS TO PRESENT TO EACH STUDENT AND THEN WE'LL STEP OVER AND TAKE INDIVIDUAL PICTURES.
IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET A PICTURE, DON'T WORRY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THEY ALL GET POSTED ONLINE ALONG WITH A CAPTION OF WHAT WAS SAID SO THAT YOU ALL CAN GO AND FIND THOSE.
EASIEST PLACE TO DO THAT IS ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE FOR THE CITY.
SO YOU CAN GO THERE, FIND THAT PICTURE THAT THEY TAKE AS WELL AS EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID BY THE INDIVIDUAL OR INDIVIDUALS WHO NOMINATED THEM.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE AS WELL, I'M HUMAN, I DO MY BEST.
IF I MISPRONOUNCE ANYONE'S NAME, PLEASE CORRECT ME WHEN YOU COME UP SO THAT I CAN PUT IT, UH, CORRECTLY PRONOUNCE IT FOR YOU, FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING OUT THEIR FAMILY OR FRIENDS WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS EVENING.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OUR FIRST STUDENT THIS EVENING IS LUKE DURAN, COMING FROM AIKEN ELEMENTARY IN THIRD GRADE, AND THIS IS FROM MRS. MOORE.
LUKE IS THOUGHTFUL AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SHOW OTHERS
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THAT HE CARES.HE IS VERY AWARE OF THE EMOTIONAL CLIMATE IN OUR CLASSROOM AND IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO OFFER A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT, A HIGH FIVE OR A PAT ON THE BACK TO A FRIEND IN NEED.
CONGRATULATIONS RIGHT WHERE THAT TAPE CROSSES THERE ON THE FLOOR.
NEXT THIS EVENING, WE HAVE ARTY PATEL.
SHE'S COMING TO US FROM BIRMINGHAM ELEMENTARY, A KINDERGARTNER, AND THIS IS FROM MS. PFEIFFER PFEIFFER RV'S GOAL IS ALWAYS TO SPREAD THAT JOY AND POSITIVITY THAT SHE RADIATES.
A FEW EXAMPLES OF THIS INCLUDE BRINGING FUN PENCILS AND ERASERS FOR HER CLASSMATES TO ENJOY, MAKING SURE THAT NOBODY IS EVER ALONE DURING RECESS OR LUNCH, AND ENCOURAGING HER CLASSMATES WHEN THEY ARE STRUGGLING.
NEXT THIS EVENING IS AMELIA FISHER COMING FROM BUSH ELEMENTARY IN THIRD GRADE.
THIS IS FROM MS. CHO AND MRS. COX.
AMELIA IS QUICK TO OFFER HELP, WHETHER IT'S SUPPORTING A CLASSMATE WHO IS STRUGGLING OR STEPPING UP WITHOUT BEING ASKED WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AMELIA LISTENS WITH EMPATHY AND ALWAYS MAKES OTHERS FEEL VALUED AND INCLUDED HER THOUGHTFUL ACTIONS, BIG AND SMALL SHOW A GENUINE DESIRE TO MAKE THE BUSH ELEMENTARY COMMUNITY BETTER EACH DAY.
NEXT IS RYDER ELDRIDGE COMING FROM COX ELEMENTARY, FOURTH GRADE.
THIS IS FROM MRS. WALKER, MRS. ZOLES AND MRS. TAYLOR.
RYDER IS QUICK TO OFFER HELP TO CLASSMATES WHETHER THEY'RE STUCK ON A PROBLEM OR JUST NEED A FRIEND.
RYDER ALSO TAKES TIME TO LOOK OUT FOR YOUNGER STUDENTS OFFERING GENTLE GUIDANCE AND ENCOURAGEMENT.
HE IS AN ABSOLUTE JOY TO HAVE IN CLASS AND HE HAS SOME COOL DANCE MOVES TOO.
NEXT THIS EVENING WE HAVE JOANNA HUN COMING FROM DOD ELEMENTARY IN SECOND GRADE.
JOANNA MAKES EVERYONE FEEL SEEN AND VALUED HER KIND SPIRIT AND ACTIONS MAKE OTHERS FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE.
SHE ALWAYS STOPS TO CARE AND OFFERS COMPASSION TO A FRIEND IN NEED.
HER KINDNESS CONSTANTLY BRINGS JOY TO THOSE AROUND
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HER.NEXT THIS EVENING WE HAVE HEIDI HAAS.
WHAT? HEIDI HAAS FROM GROVES ELEMENTARY IN FIRST GRADE, AND THIS IS FROM MS. SHAW.
HEIDI IS AN AMAZING AND HARDWORKING STUDENT EVERY DAY.
SHE EXEMPLIFIES THE QUALITIES OF CARING AND GIVING.
ONE DAY ONE OF MY SMALL POTS BROKE.
HEIDI TOOK THE TIME TO MAKE ME A NEW ONE.
SHE TRULY IS SUCH A SWEET AND KIND PERSON.
OKAY, SO SHE IS IN SECOND GRADE AND WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
THEY HAD YOU LISTED AS FIRST GRADE HERE, SO I THOUGHT SHE WAS PRETTY TALL FOR A FIRST GRADER, BUT MOM AND DAD WOULDN'T COMPLAIN.
THAT DOES WELL FOR SPORTS SCHOLARSHIPS ONE DAY.
NEXT THIS EVENING, ARIANA MUSTAFA COMING TO US FROM KRAMER ELEMENTARY IN THIRD GRADE.
AND THIS IS FROM MRS. ASH AND MRS. REJO.
OSH AND REJO ARIANA'S KINDNESS AND WILLINGNESS TO HELP OTHERS SHINE THROUGH IN EVERYTHING SHE DOES AND HER THOUGHTFUL CONTRIBUTIONS HELP OUR CLASSROOM RUN SMOOTHLY AND CREATE A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE.
ARIANA'S NATURAL LEADERSHIP AND GENUINE CARE FOR OTHERS MAKE HER TRULY DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION.
WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU, ARIANA.
NEXT THIS EVENING IS CHARLOTTE BOYER COMING FROM SMITH ELEMENTARY.
IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY, FOURTH GRADE, THIS IS FROM MS. HATHORNE AND MRS. SC.
CHARLOTTE'S SWEET ATTITUDE AND THOUGHTFUL ACTIONS MEAN MORE TO OTHERS THAN SHE MAY EVER KNOW.
HER KINDNESS, HONESTY, AND BIG HEART MAKE HER TRULY SPECIAL AND SO DESERVING OF THIS RECOGNITION.
WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU, CHARLOTTE, AND SO THANKFUL TO HAVE YOU HERE AT SMITH ELEMENTARY.
SHE'S COMING FROM TIBBLES ELEMENTARY IN THIRD GRADE.
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THIS IS FROM MS. PRUITT AND MS. BARB ROSALYN IS ALWAYS WILLING TO LEND A HELPING HAND TO BOTH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS LEADING WITH KINDNESS AND COMPASSION.HER BRIGHT SMILE LIGHTS UP OUR HALLWAYS AND MAKES OTHERS FEEL WELCOME AND VALUED.
IF SOMEONE NEEDS A HUG, A SMILE, OR A MOMENT OF ENCOURAGEMENT, ROSALYN IS ALWAYS THERE SHINING THE WAY FOR OTHERS EVERY DAY.
SHE IS COMING FROM WATKINS ELEMENTARY IN SECOND GRADE.
THIS IS FROM KRISTEN RAY AND SIDNEY TURK.
I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR BEING SUCH A CARING AND GIVING STUDENT.
YOUR KINDNESS, EMPATHY, AND GENUINE CONCERN FOR OTHERS ARE EVIDENT IN THE WAY THAT YOU TREAT YOUR CLASSMATES AND APPROACH.
EACH DAY YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND GENEROSITY CREATE A WELCOMING AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT AND IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.
SHE'S COMING FROM WIT ELEMENTARY IN SECOND GRADE.
SHE'S ALWAYS KIND AND CARING TO HER TEACHERS AND CLASSMATES.
IF SOMEONE NEEDS A LITTLE HELP, SHE IS READY TO JUMP IN AND LEND A HAND.
NORA WORKS HARD IN CLASS TO DO HER BEST AND BE HER BEST.
NORA EXEMPLIFIES THE WILEY WAY EVERY DAY.
NEXT THIS EVENING WE HAVE REESE MARBLE COMING FROM DAVIS INTERMEDIATE IN SIXTH GRADE, AND THIS IS FROM MRS. NORRIS.
REESE GOES OUT OF HER WAY TO INCLUDE AND HELP OTHERS.
SHE IS VERY KIND AND CARING TO ALL SHE IS GIVING OF HER TIME IN CLASS AS SHE HELPS OTHERS, BUT ALSO THROUGH VOLUNTEERING WITH THE STUDENT COUNCIL.
THIS EVENING IS WILLIAM RIVAS NUNEZ COMING TO US FROM DRAPER INTERMEDIATE IN FIFTH GRADE.
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AND THIS IS FROM ALL THE DUAL LANGUAGE TEACHERS AND MS. M LOPEZ.WILLIAM IS ALWAYS MAKING SURE WE ARE ALL OKAY.
HE IS A TRUE EXAMPLE OF CARING AND GIVING TO OTHERS.
I LOVE HAVING HIM IN MY MATH CLASS.
WILLIAM, YOU ARE THE WILEY WAY.
NEXT UP IS KAYLIN WOOD COMING TO US FROM HARRISON INTERMEDIATE IN SIXTH GRADE.
KAYLIN CONSISTENTLY EXEMPLIFIES, CARING AND GIVING IN OUR CLASSROOM.
SHE GOES OUT OF HER WAY TO CHECK ON CLASSMATES.
OFFER HELP WHEN SOMEONE SEEMS UPSET OR CONFUSED AND MAKE SURE NO ONE FEELS LEFT OUT.
HER WILLINGNESS TO INCLUDE OTHERS AND CREATE A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT TRULY MAKES A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR CLASS.
NEDA COMING TO US FROM BURNETT JUNIOR HIGH SEVENTH GRADE.
CARLOS TAKES THE TIME TO LEARN THE NAMES OF ALL THE STUDENTS HE ENCOUNTERS ON HALLOWEEN.
HE MADE IT A POINT TO GIVE RING POPS TO HIS ENTIRE EIGHTH PERIOD CLASS TO CELEBRATE THE DAY ALL HIS PEERS LOVE CARLOS AND APPRECIATE HIM FOR WHO HE IS.
IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO BE HIS TEACHER AND SEE HIM GROW.
NEXT WE HAVE DIANA RAZOV FROM COOPER JUNIOR HIGH AND EIGHTH GRADER, ALMOST HIGH SCHOOL TIME.
DIANA EXEMPLIFIES CARING BY CONSISTENTLY SHOWING EMPATHY AND KINDNESS TOWARDS OTHERS.
TAKING TIME TO ENSURE CLASSMATES FEEL SUPPORTED AND INCLUDED.
SHE LISTENS ATTENTIVELY AND OFFERS HELP WITHOUT BEING ASKED, DEMONSTRATING GENUINE CONCERN FOR OTHERS' WELLBEING.
SHE ALSO DEMONSTRATES GIVING BY SHARING HER TIME, EFFORT, AND RESOURCES TO ASSIST PEERS AND CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT.
DIANA'S ACTIONS REFLECT A GENEROUS SPIRIT AND A COMMITMENT TO MAKING THAT ENVIRONMENT BETTER FOR EVERYONE.
AND NEXT WE HAVE LINLEY KATE BROKA.
SHE COMES TO US FROM MCMILLAN JUNIOR HIGH IN SEVENTH GRADE, AND
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THIS IS FROM MR. JUSTIN DUBROW.SHE CONSISTENTLY OFFERS HER HELP TO OTHERS AROUND HER.
SHE HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED TO COME TO MY ADVISORY AND WORK WITH MY STUDENTS WHO NEED EXTRA SUPPORT.
LINLEY IS A SUPER KIND STUDENT WHO CARES ABOUT OTHERS AROUND HER.
NEXT IS EVANGELINE WILLIAMS. EVANGELINE.
SHE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE SHE CAN COME TO ANOTHER MEETING OR GET THAT FROM US.
WE'LL MOVE TO MR. MICHAEL ROBEL.
SEE, THE MORE YOU YELL THE AND THE OLDER THEY ARE, THE BIGGER THAT GRIN GETS.
AND HE COMES TO US FROM WILEY EAST HIGH SCHOOL AND HE IS A SENIOR.
THIS IS FROM MRS. PATTY MAXWELL, COACH BJ SMITH AND MS. MARIAN WRIGHT.
I HAVE NEVER MET A STUDENT WITH SUCH A GREAT HEART AS HIS.
HE VOLUNTEERS WITH THE FASC STUDENTS TO BE A MENTOR AND LEADER AND HE IS CONSTANTLY OFFERING HIS TIME TO HELP IN ANY WAY HE CAN FOR STUDENTS, STAFF, AND HIS FAMILY.
OFTEN HE BRINGS TREATS AND GIFTS TO HIS TEACHERS AS WELL.
MICHAEL IS A GENUINELY CARING AND GIVING PERSON.
NEXT WE HAVE SAVANNAH PAGE COMING FROM WILEY HIGH SCHOOL, ALSO A SENIOR.
WITHOUT QUESTION, SAVANNAH IS THE MOST CARING AND GIVING STUDENT IN WILEY HIGH SCHOOL.
IF ANYONE NEEDS AN ENCOURAGING WORD, SAVANNAH HAS IT FOR THEM.
SHE PROVIDES WORDS, FIST BUMPS, SMILES, CLASSROOM ASSISTANCE, AND HIGH FIVES TO PEERS, TEACHERS, AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
SHE IS THE EXEMPLAR OF THE WILEY WAY, PRIMARILY THROUGH HER CARING AND GIVING CONGRATULATIONS.
NEXT THIS EVENING IS LINCOLN ACKLES.
HE MAY HAVE HAD SOME OTHER THINGS HE HAD GOING BASED ON SOME OF THE EXTRACURRICULARS THAT I SEE LISTED HERE.
AND OUR LAST, BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST STUDENT THIS EVENING IS GRACE BUNTON.
I KNOW IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.
IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE I WAS THERE OR ANY OF THE REST OF US PARENTS FOR THE MOST PART.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MINUTE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO COULD COME.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AS WELL AND SUPPORTING YOUR STUDENTS.
UH, THIS IS AN AWARD THAT THE ISD GIVES OUT THAT WE ARE SO PROUD TO PARTNER ON.
STUDENTS REGULARLY GET RECOGNIZED FOR ACADEMIC SUCCESS, FOR EXTRACURRICULAR SUCCESS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHILE THOSE THINGS CAN HELP, THOSE
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AREN'T THE CHARACTER.THEY DON'T, THOSE AREN'T CHARACTER TRAITS.
THE CHARACTER TRAITS THAT WE WANT OUR FUTURE LEADERS AND IN THIS COMMUNITY TO SHARE ARE THOSE THAT THE WILEY WAY HELPS EMBRACE CARING AND GIVING, WHICH IS FOR THIS SEMESTER OR QUARTER.
THOSE ARE TRAITS THAT WE HOPE TO SEE IN ALL OF OUR STUDENTS.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THAT NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS.
'CAUSE ONE DAY YOU'LL BE GONE.
AND THAT NEXT GENERATION WILL TAKE OVER AND CELEBRATING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THERE WERE OTHERS NOMINATED WHO ARE GREAT AS WELL, BUT HAVING THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND CELEBRATING THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS CREATING THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANT AS FUTURE LEADERS WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME FOR COMING THIS EVENING.
I WILL GIVE EVERYONE A BRIEF BREAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STEP OUT.
OUR MEETINGS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND TRANSPARENT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S A SCHOOL NIGHT.
IF YOU WISH TO STAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK TO ALLOW THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE TO GO AHEAD AND HEAD HOME.
WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS OUR COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNSEL REGARDING AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE DO ASK YOU COMPLETE A FORM PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
DURING THIS TIME, WE DO REQUEST COMMENTS BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SIX MINUTES.
IF REPRESENTING A GROUP, WE DO REMIND EVERYONE THAT UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT COUNSEL IS NOT ALLOWED TO CONVERSE, DELIBERATE, OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY MATTERS THAT ARE PRESENTED DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MS. STORM, I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE FORM TURNED IN TO SPEAK DURING NON AGENDA.
UH, AND SO I WILL ASK MS. JENNIFER WAKEFIELD I OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK DURING NON OKAY.
I'LL MAKE THAT NOTATION OR I'LL ASK YOU TO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN WE'RE DONE SPEAKING.
SO MS. WAKEFIELD, IF YOU'LL TURN THAT ON FOR US, HIT THE LITTLE HEAD THERE.
AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE JUST SPEAKING AS YOURSELF DURING THIS TIME, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS COUNSEL AND IF YOU'LL START WITH NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER WAKEFIELD.
I LIVE AT NINE EAST CREEK PLACE 7 5 0 7 4.
AND, UM, I WANTED TO, UH, THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE WORK SESSION LAST MONTH.
AND I FELT LIKE THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR AND GIVE FEEDBACK.
AND MAYOR PORTER, I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, INVITING THE COMMUNITY TO WATCH THAT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL.
UM, UM, I I ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TURN THE HOUSE OVER TO THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, YOUR OWN ORDINANCE.
15 20 15 DASH 11 AND AFFIRMED IN 2017 DASH OH FOUR SAYS THAT THE HOUSE WOULD BE MOVED TO A PLACE ON THE PARK LAND AND THAT THE PARK LAND, IT DIDN'T, IT COULD BE AN ACCESSORY UNIT TO THE SUBDIVISION AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY AND THAT THE HISTORIC SOCIETY WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAPPENED EXCEPT THAT THE HISTORIC SOCIETY WAS NOT RECOGNIZED IN ACTIONS AS OWNING THE HOUSE.
WE ASK YOU TO HONOR THAT AND NOT GIVE OUR HOUSE TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
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UP HERE A FEW TIMES AND I DON'T WANT TO BE REDUNDANT.I JUST WANT TO HIT SOME BULLET POINTS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE.
I'VE BEEN, UM, IN COMMUNICATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND, UM, JUST WANNA HONOR THAT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, 11 YEARS AGO, THE STONE FAMILY DONATED STONEHAVEN HOUSE TO THE WALLY HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE CONTENTS WITHIN THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY PAID 37 5 TO HAVE THE HOUSE MOVE 400 FEET.
ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY, PER THE CITY MANAGER'S INSTRUCTIONS, WE REMOVED ITEMS FROM THE HOUSE AND PUT THEM IN STORAGE FOR WHICH WE ARE STILL PAYING.
THE CITY MET WITH THE WALLY HISTORICAL SOCIETY MANY TIMES OVER THE PAST 11 YEARS TO DISCUSS HOW THE HOUSE WOULD BE RENOVATED.
THEY HIRED EXPERTS, UH, JENNIFER WAKEFIELD AND JOHN LEWIS.
THE PRESIDENT WORKED WITH ROBERT DIAZ OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, TOWARDS THAT, THAT PLAN, THE PLAN WAS VERY HEFTY PRICE TAG AND THE CITY DIDN'T GO WITH THAT PLAN.
BUT THE CITY HAD PASSED THOSE ORDINANCES.
MS. WAKEFIELD MENTIONED EARLIER, AND I READ THEM NOW.
THE WALLY HISTORICAL SOCIETY RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE MAINTAINING THE STONE HOUSE, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE STONE HOUSE, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE SECURITY OF THE STONE HOUSE, AND PAYING FOR THE ELECTRICITY OF THE STONE HOUSE.
THE WALLY HISTORICAL SOCIETY CONTINUED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE CITY UNTIL WE WERE TOLD TO STAY OUT OF THE HOUSE.
BECAUSE OF THE CITY NEEDING TO ACQUIRE, UM, LIABILITY INSURANCE, WHICH NEVER HAPPENED.
MS. MANSON SAID THAT SHE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE HOUSE READY IN TWO YEARS FOR THE THINGS THAT THE CITY, THE BIG ITEMS, THE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT THE CITY WAS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHEN THE, WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS, THE CITY OFFICIALS HAVE MET WITH US MULTIPLE TIMES TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS TRANSITION IS GOING TO OCCUR.
AND IT CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE WHEN THE CITY ALLOWED THE HOUSE TO BE PLACED ON PARKLAND, AND ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THAT 2015 MEETING SAID, LET'S CHISEL OUT A PIECE OF LAND UNDER THE HOUSE, THAT PIECE OF LAND STILL REMAINED IN PARKLAND, WHICH IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE JUST LAND NOT PARKLAND.
IN SEEKING A RESOLUTION, THE CITY NOW HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE THIS SITUATION ONCE AND FOR ALL BY BUYING.
AND THIS WAS AT THE SUGGESTION OF CITY STAFF BUYING
[COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS ]
A CITY, UM, DOWNTOWN PLOT AND MOVING THE HOUSE TO IT AND TURNING IT OVER TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNERS.THIS MOVE IS GOOD FOR THE CITY OF WILEY, THE CITIZENS OF WILEY, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE HOUSE, THE STONE FAMILY.
THIS WAS THE INTENTIONS OF THAT FAMILY.
I'M GOING TO READ YOU OUR CITY, OUR WHS SECRETARY SENT Y'ALL A LETTER TODAY AND HER ENDING WAS, IF WE THOUGHT WE WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE STEWARDS OF THE HOUSE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE PAID FOR THE STORAGE OF THE CONTENTS AND MATERIALS.
I WOULD IMPLORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND TO CARRY OUT THE WISHES OF THE STONE FAMILY TO DO OTHERWISE WOULD APPEAR LIKE THE CITY IS TAKING A PROPERTY THAT WAS MEANT FOR WHS AND SELLING IT OUT FROM UNDER THEM TO SOMEONE WE DON'T KNOW.
AND TO SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT CARRY OUT THE WISHES OF THE STONE FAMILY, THAT WOULD BE SO OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE WAY I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THE CITY OF WILEY DOES BUSINESS.
AND IT'S MY HOPE THAT YOU AGREE AND THAT IS SIGNED BY TAYLOR, CATHERINE VON THOMAS, OUR SECRETARY, AND A CITIZEN OF WILEY SINCE I THINK 2006.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I DO BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO ASKED TO SPEAK DURING THE NON-AG AGENDA PORTION.
[CONSENT AGENDA ]
WILL THEN MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, COUNSEL AND STAFF, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WHICH YOU WOULD LIKE POLLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR QUESTIONS? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.UH, COUNCILMAN HOOVER, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS, UH, PRESENTED.
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WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DUKE, MR. MAYOR I SECOND.
MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
I MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
[1. Tabled from 12-09-2025 Remove from table and consider Consider, and act upon, the award of contract W2026-02 for City Engineering Firm Plan Review Services to Cobb Fendley in the estimated amount of $150,000.00 and authorizing the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents. ]
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING.ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE AWARD OF CONTRACT W 2026 DASH ZERO TWO FOR CITY ENGINEERING FIRM PLAN REVIEW SERVICES TO COBB FINLEY IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $150,000, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.
NOW, COUNSEL, THIS WAS TABLED AT OUR DECEMBER 9TH MEETING.
IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED, IT MUST BE REMOVED FROM TABLE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE? MAYOR PROTE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE TABLE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM TABLE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DUKE? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH THE SECOND TO REMOVE THE ITEM FROM TABLE COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO.
THE ITEM IS REMOVED FROM TABLE AND NOW ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED.
WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. WEIR.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.
UH, WE JUST KIND OF WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS, THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THIS ITEM IS TO CONSIDER CONTRACT W 2026 DASH OH TWO FOR A CITY ENGINEERING FIRM PLAN REVIEW SERVICES TO COBB FINLEY IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT FOR $150,000.
UM, IN TWO, IN 2025, THE CITY ISSUED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND RECEIVED, UH, 14 SUBMITTALS OF QUAL FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS. REP REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY WERE THEN ASKED TO EVALUATE THESE FIRMS BASED ON THEIR SUBMIT SUBMISSIONS AND SET THROUGH SET CATEGORIES.
UM, FROM THE EVALUATION PROCESS, THE CITY RANKED COBB FINLEY AS THEIR NUMBER ONE FIRM.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COBB FINLEY AND POSSIBLY WHY WE, UM, GOT TO THAT CONCLUSION.
SO COBB FINLEY, UM, HAS BEEN AROUND JUST OVER 45 YEARS.
UM, THEY DO HAVE 15 OFFICES, OFFICES IN TEXAS.
UH, OUR MAIN CONTACT WILL COME OUT OF THE FRISCO OFFICE.
THEY DO HAVE A, THEIR FRISCO OFFICE, A SUPPORT OFFICE, WHICH WILL BE IN FORT WORTH, AND THEN THEIR HEADQUARTERS IN HOUSTON.
UH, THE TEAM WILL CONSIST OF A PROJECT PRINCIPAL, UH, CITY ENGINEER, UH, UH, QA, QC MANAGER.
AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES TO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS.
A STANDARDS TASK TASK LEADER, A CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, A TRAFFIC REVIEWER, AND A GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS, UH, PERSON.
SO THIS TEAM MAKEUP IS, IS ALL PROF? WELL, IT'S PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.
THERE IS ONE ENGINEERING TRAINING THAT IS ON, UH, ON THEIR TEAM.
UM, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS, IS A PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER EXCEPT FOR THE, LIKE I SAID, THE ENGINEERING TRAINING AND A GIS PROFESSIONAL.
UH, THEY DO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ENGINEER AND A CERTIFIED FLOOD PLAY MANAGER THAT WILL HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
UM, AND A YEARS OF SERVICE RANGE, ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 38 YEARS OF BEING IN THE FIELD.
UM, THE FIRM IS LARGE ENOUGH THAT IF ONE MEMBER OF THE TEAM WAS TO LEAVE THE FIRM, HE OR SHE CAN BE REPLACED SEAMLESSLY.
THE PROJECT PRINCIPLE WILL COORDINATE IMMEDIATELY WITH THE CITY, WITH THE CITY AND PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE TEAM MEMBER.
UM, AT THAT POINT, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS.
THE CITY WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THEM TO BE ON THE TEAM, UH, BEFORE THEY CAN JUST BE PLACED ON IT.
UM, THIS TEAM WILL REVIEW PLATS, REVIEW PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, CIVIL PLANS, UH, REVIEW ANY FLOODPLAIN REPORTS THAT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND FROM THIS RFQ, THEY DID PROVIDE SOME CLIENT HISTORY.
SO THEY, THEY DO PROVIDE A SIMILAR SERVICE FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON, CITY OF GUNTER, UH, LITTLE ELM AND GRANBURY.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE PROVIDED SPECIALTY SERVICES FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS IN HEATH AND NEW BRAUNFELS.
SO WE DID REACH OUT ONCE WE WENT THROUGH THE, THE RFQ PROCESS AND THEY WERE SELECTED AS A NUMBER ONE.
WE DID REACH OUT TO THOSE, TO THOSE CITIES.
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GOT BACK FROM THOSE CITIES WAS THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIVE.THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL, THEY HAVE USED CO ONE CITY'S USE COBB FINLEY SINCE 2012.
THEY HAVE A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF DESIGN.
THEY'RE THOROUGH, THEY HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATION.
UM, THEY HAVE WORKED, UH, ONE CITY HAS WORKED WITH THESE WITH OTHER FIRMS IN THE PAST.
UM, A THIRD CITY SAID THEY ARE, THEY ARE A GREAT FIRM, HAS USED THEM IN THE PAST FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.
THEY'RE VERY HELPFUL, HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THE TEAM MEMBERS FROM A VARIETY OF SPECIALTIES, AND THEY PRODUCE REALLY GOOD WORK AND PROVIDE IN-DEPTH REVIEWS REGARDING REGARDING DRAINAGE, UM, AND ALSO REGARDING TRAFFIC.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.
UH, I WOULD ASK, WOULD YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE TERM I I KNOW THE OPTOUT TERMS, THE TERMS FOR RENEWAL ARE, I BELIEVE I GIMME ONE SECOND BECAUSE I, I, IF I REMEMBER, IT'S NOT EVERGREEN.
SO IT'D BE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT AND WE'LL RENEW IT UNTIL YEAR AFTER THAT.
UM, THE TERM, I DON'T DUNNO WHAT THE AGENDA READS, BUT UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, IT'S ANNUAL CONTRACT SO IT WOULDN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
IT'S, LET'S SAY IT'S A THREE YEAR WITH ANNUALS.
WELL, IT'S A ONE YEAR WITH ANNUALS.
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL UNTIL AFTER OUR THIRD YEAR IF WE WANNA DO A MODIFICATION.
UM, TOMMY AND CHRIS, THANKS FOR GOING BACK AND TAKING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED LAST SESSION AND KIND OF PROVIDING US SOME DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHY THIS FIRM, IT'S GOING TO SUFFICE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY.
UM, SELECTING AN ENGINEERING FIRM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A, A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY OR WHATEVER, UH, PERSPECTIVE CLIENT OR INVESTOR WANTS TO INVEST IN THE CITY KIND OF GIVES US THAT PLATFORM OF THEY SEE IT ALL.
WILL THERE BE A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS OR PRE PRE CITY MEETING? ALMOST IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD.
SO COBB CAN SEE, 'CAUSE THE DRAINAGE ISSUE FOR EXAMPLE, HE WAS NOT GONNA BE JUST ON THAT PLOT.
WHEN, WHEN A DEVELOPER WANTS TO DEVELOP THAT PLOT, THERE COULD BE DRAINAGES THAT'S COMING ALL THE WAY FROM DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW OUR CITY WORKS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN GOING IN OUR CITY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT IT AS ONE INSTEAD OF LOOKING AS A HOLISTIC PART OF WHERE IS IT COMING FROM, WHY IS IT COMING FROM, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL ISSUE FROM ALL SIDES VERSUS JUST THE PROVING A PROJECT FROM AN OFFICE COMPUTER AND NOT SEEING THE FIELD IN A SENSE.
IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THIS FIRM? SO WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT, UM, THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO EITHER MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF, TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, TO TALK THROUGH ANY ISSUES, UM, IN A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING BEFORE ANYTHING EVEN GETS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR PLANS.
SO WE'LL TRY TO CATCH AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THE FRONT END.
SO AS WE'RE NOT DELAYING A PROJECT, UM, GOING THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF WE TAKE A, A DESIGN REVIEW IN IN-HOUSE AND WE LOOK AT IT AND WE MARK IT UP AND THEN WE SAY THAT, HEY, THERE'S, THERE'S 15 THINGS WRONG WITH THIS THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK.
WE WANNA TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT AS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE WILL HAVE COBB FINLEY AT OUR DISPOSAL TO BE AT THOSE PRE UH, DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.
AND WILL, WILL THERE BE ANY MEETINGS PRIOR TO EVEN ANY SUBMISSIONS OF ANY PLANS IN TERMS OF JUST COBB KNOWING A LITTLE BIT OF HOW OUR CITY FUNCTIONS AT ALL, WHERE SOME OF THE CREEKS ARE, WHERE SOME OF THE DRAINAGES ARE, WHERE SOME OF THE WATER PIPES ARE, WHERE SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS ARE, WHERE SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL OVERHEAD IS, SO THEY UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IF GINO SUBMITS A PLAN FOR A CERTAIN AREA, THEN THEY UNDERSTAND, ALL RIGHT, THAT AREA MAY HAVE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES OR MAY HAVE THIS ISSUES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT.
OUR GOAL IS TO MEET WITH THEM, UM, ONCE THIS GETS EXECUTED TO HAVE A, A STARTUP MEETING, UM, TO START THOSE, THOSE DISCUSSIONS SO THAT THEY WERE KIND OF AWARE OF SOME OF OUR ISSUES AROUND TOWN.
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN ON THIS.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR PROTO QUESTION OR MOTION? MOTION? YEAH, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN PICKENS? YEAH.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND ITEM IS APPROVED.
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THANK YOU.[2. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the request to withdraw the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural (AG) to Community Retail - Special Use Permit (CR-SUP) on 1.85 acres to allow for Office Showroom/Warehouse. Property located at 308 W. Alanis Drive (ZC 2025-09). ]
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL AG COMMUNITY RETAIL SPECIAL USE PERMIT, C-R-S-U-P ON 1.85 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE ON A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 0 8 WEST ALLEN EAST DRIVE, ZONING CASE 2025 DASH NINE.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UM, AS STATED IN THE SUBJECT LINE, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO, UH, UH, COUNSEL TO APPROVE THE WITHDRAWAL OF THIS ITEM.
UM, THEY HAD, UH, UH, UNFAVORABLE RESULT AT, AT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS SOME, UH, OBVIOUS HOLES IN THE, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, UH, BASICALLY FIRED THEIR OLD ARCHITECT, HIRED SOMEBODY THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH WI, UM, SOMEBODY LOCAL WHO'S WORKED WITH THE CITY OF WILEY, UM, ON A, UH, UH, A LONGER BASIS, I GUESS.
UM, AND IS, UH, WANTS TO START FROM START FROM SCRATCH.
SAME GENERAL IDEA, UM, BUT, UH, WITH A MORE, UH, UH, PRESENTABLE APPLICATION.
UM, THEY BOTH, THE APPLICANT, THE LANDOWNER, AND THE, UH, LOCAL, THE NEW, UH, UH, SITE PLANNER ARE HERE.
CASE COUNSEL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UM, BUT THEY WERE ASKING TO JUST WITHDRAW AND THEN BASICALLY START OVER.
SO I DO KNOW NO MATTER WHAT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON THIS, SO BEFORE WE CAN TAKE ANY CONSIDERATION OF MOTIONS OR OTHERWISE, UH, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, MS. DORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND, AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING, BUT ASK THAT YOU DO.
SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL START, I HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO ASKED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
I'LL GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY FIRST.
UH, SO MR. LARRY HEATH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK STILL? SURE.
IF THIS, UH, IS BEING WITHDRAWN, THEN I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO, WELL COUNSEL, COUNSEL CAN'T HAVE A MOTION OR MAKE A DETERMINATION UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US, EVEN IF IT'S BRIEF, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.
UH, AT THIS TIME, MY NAME IS LARRY HEATH.
I LIVE AT 5 0 7 VIRGINIA LANE WILEY, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
THAT'S, UH, THAT THEY'RE WITHDRAWING.
AND, UH, I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
WE JUST WANTED THE PROPERTY TO BE CHANGED IN ZONING THAT WOULD ENHANCE, UH, THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND OUR PROPERTY, NOT JUST OUR PROPERTY, BUT STONE RANCH, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS AFFECTED BY REALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE.
ONE OF OUR ENTRANCES THAT GOES INTO, UH, ALANISE IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT SAME LOCATION.
SO IF THERE'S VERY MUCH ACTIVITY THAT COMES AND GOES OUT OF THAT ESE, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, NARROWS FROM TWO LANES TO THREE LANES TO TWO LANES ALL IN THAT SECTION.
AND IT'S NOT THE EASIEST FOR PEOPLE TO NAVIGATE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ON ESE BEFORE.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION OF WHATEVER'S PUT IN THERE THAT IT'S MINIMAL ACTIVITY SO THAT WE DON'T INCUR MORE POTENTIAL ACCIDENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, UH, THAT'S ALL, UH, THAT'S ALWAYS ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION.
I WILL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNSEL, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MR. HASKINS HERE.
THERE IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW, OF COURSE, AS IT STATES COUNSEL CAN APPROVE, DENY, OR CAN ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL FOR APPLICANT OR FOR MR. HASKINS? MAYOR PROTO? MAYOR, I DO NOT HAVE A QUESTION.
I'M READY FOR A MOTION IF THERE IS NO QUESTIONS.
LET ME MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILMAN STRANG DOESN'T HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT.
YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
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I'M NOT GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK IT UP RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE IT TAKES A FEW MINUTES, BUT WHAT'S ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT? UH, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS, UM, SORRY, JUST MAKING SURE I GET THIS RIGHT.I SEE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT, AND IT'S RIGHT.
THAT BEING SAID, IT'S RIGHT ON THE DIVIDING LINE WITH, UM, A COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS THE REST OF THE WAY DOWN ALLEN EAST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY.
AND THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM.
MAYOR PROTO, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT A WITHDRAWAL.
DO WE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN STRING? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH THE SECOND TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE ITEM.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
[3. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change of zoning to amend Planned Development 2024-10 to a Planned Development (PD) with single family detached, commercial development and open space on 25.037 acres, generally located at 605 Country Club Road (ZC 2025-16). ]
THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM THREE THIS EVENING, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT.2024 DASH 10 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN SPACE ON 25.037 ACRES.
GENERALLY LOCATED AT 6 0 5 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 16.
UM, SO IF YOU REMEMBER, UH, WE HAD A WORK SESSION, UM, WITH TOLL BROTHERS, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
I CAN, I GUESS I CAN SAFELY SAY LAST YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, THEY'VE NOW, UM, WENT THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS OF REQUESTING REZONING.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS TO ELIMINATE THE, UH, TOWN HOMES FROM THE PROPERTY AND ADD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, WITH A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE STIPULATIONS IN THERE.
AND, UH, INSTEAD OF REITERATING WHAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SAY HERE IN THEIR PRESENTATION, UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO THEM, MAYOR, IF THAT'S OKAY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR APPLICATION, UM, UH, UH, ENTAILS.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE P AND Z COMMISSION, AFTER SEEING THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, WHAT THEY HAD TO OFFER DID VOTE SIX ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THAT WAY IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO MAY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HELP ANSWER THOSE.
GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR ESTEEMED, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON THE, MY NAME IS MOHAMMAD KASIM WITH MADEWELL COMPANIES.
I'M AT 4 5 3 2 WHITEROCK LANE, PLANO, TEXAS 7 5 0 2 4.
UM, I WOULD FIRST OF ALL, LIKE TO START WITH, UH, CONGRATULATING YOU ON JUST THE CEREMONY WE WITNESSED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE STUDENTS.
I THINK IT WAS A VERY, VERY WELL DONE AND, UH, GREAT, UH, BACKDROP TO START WITH HAVING THAT INFLUENCE OF THE WILEY WAY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, WE ARE, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE A QUICK INTRODUCTION ABOUT MADEWELL COMPANIES FIRST, AND WE'LL PROVIDE THE CONTEXT INTO SORT OF WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SO MADEWELL COMPANIES IS A DEVELOPER HERE IN DFW AND WE ARE ACTUALLY STEPPING INTO, UH, ACQUIRE THE COLLEGE PARK, UM, DEVELOPMENT FROM THE DEVELOPERS WHO HAD ACTUALLY, UH, COME IN TO GET THIS, UM, ZONING APPROVED, UH, UH, PREVIOUSLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE ARE STEPPING INTO, UM, BASICALLY TAKE OVER THE VISION THAT WAS INITIALLY PUT TOGETHER.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS AND, UM, PARTNERS, UH, INTO GETTING THIS TEAM COMPLETING WITH TOLL BROTHERS.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE WITH THE CITY STAFF AND WITH, UH, SOME OF THE WORKING SESSIONS THAT IS IN, IN THE PAST.
UM, SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT, AND YOU'LL, I THINK THE PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL SEE IS, IS THAT, UM, AS A, AS A DEVELOPER, WE'RE LOOKING TO NOW BASICALLY TRANSITION FROM A RELATIVELY HIGHER DENSITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT TO A, UM, SLIGHTLY LOWER DENSITY, WHICH IS MOSTLY, UH, MOSTLY CONCENTRATED TOWARDS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, UH, MORE ON THE LUXURY PRODUCTS VERSUS HAVING TOWN HOMES, UM, UH, AND, UH, SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF HOMES, UH, CREATED.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO CARRY WITH THE, UM, COMMERCIAL TRACK THAT WAS ALREADY, UM, UM, ADAPTED AS, AS PART OF THE ZONING.
UH, SO THAT CONTINUES TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE, INTO THE NEW PLAN.
AND, UM, WITH, UH, WITH WORKING WITH TOLL BROTHERS IN TERMS OF KIND OF WHAT WORKS WELL IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY DESIGN, YOU'LL HEAR MUCH MORE ABOUT WHY THIS TRANSITION AND, UH, THE NEW CONCEPT PLAN IS BEING INTRODUCED.
BUT FROM A, UM, UH, DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, UM, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING OUR FIRST PROJECT COME IN INTO WILEY.
WE ARE JUST IN, AT THE HEELS OF COMPLETING A PROJECT VERY NOT TOO FAR AWAY IN, UH, IN MURPHY, TEXAS, WHERE
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WE, UH, PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF, UH, MURPHY, UH, TO, UH, COMPLETE, UH, 104 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS, UM, COMMUNITY THERE, WHICH, UM, HAS BEEN TRANSITIONED TO DR. HORTON.SO VERY WELL, WORKING WITH A LARGER NATIONAL BUILDER THERE AND WORKING VERY WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE ACTUALLY PARTNERED TO GIVE PART OF OUR LAND OVER TO NOW, WHICH IS BECOMING THE HEB CENTER AND A TRUE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ORCHESTRATED WITH THE MAYOR, UH, IN MURPHY.
SO IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THAT WE WERE ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH TOLL BROTHERS WHO HAD COMPLETED A PROJECT OVER THERE SINCE WE HAD VERY CLOSE COMMUNITY BUILD OUTS, UH, BEING COMPLETED OVER THERE.
SO WE SEE THAT THAT VISION THAT TO BROTHERS HAD COMPLETED IN MURPHY, BRINGING THAT OVER INTO CITY OF WILEY, UM, AND KIND OF BRINGING THAT STRENGTH OF GETTING THAT WHOLE DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, KIND OF GETTING, UM, REALLY BREAK GROUND AS SOON AS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE THROUGH WITH KIND OF THE FORMALITIES OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A GREEN LIGHT TO EMBARK ON THIS MISSION.
UH, AND JUST ON THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED.
THESE ARE 74, UM, SINGLE FAMILY, UM, UH, PATIO HOMES AND TOWN HOMES HAD BEEN COMPLETED IN MCKINNEY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A FULLY COMPLETED BUILT OUT COMMUNITY NOW.
UH, AND AGAIN, THERE WAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF US WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF MCKINNEY TO BRING THAT, UH, LUXURY PRODUCT ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
SO, HAD IT NOT BEEN TOLD BROTHERS, WE COULD HAVE, UM, CONTINUED THE MISSION, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL PD, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE A, UH, A NEW MODEL TO BRING IN, WHICH IS, I THINK WORKS VERY WELL WITH THE, UM, COMMUNITY AND DESIGN AS WELL AS BRINGING IN THAT, UH, LUXURY PRODUCT WITH TOLL BROTHERS.
AND, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE, THIS IS JUST ILLUSTRATIVE VIEW THAT, UM, OUR GOAL AS A DEVELOPER AND WE'RE MAKING THE INVESTMENT IS RIGHT AWAY GO INTO A FULL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE ENTIRE 25 ACRES, INCLUDING THE SINGLE FAMILY TRACK AND THE COMMERCIAL TRACK.
SO THEY WILL WORK IN PARALLEL IN TERMS OF GETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE LINED UP, AND WE WILL CONCENTRATE ON WORKING WITH, ON THE COMMERCIAL TRACK WHERE WE'LL TRANSITION THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT OVER TO TOLL BROTHERS.
SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT KIND OF, UH, WHAT THE VISION WAS PUT TOGETHER, ORIGINALLY WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT REALLY KIND OF TAKING IT UP A NOTCH AND, UH, AND BRINGING THAT, UM, WONDERFUL COMPONENT TO THIS, UH, THIS CORRIDOR OF, OF WILEY, UH, WHICH IS RIGHT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AS WELL.
SO, WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE OVER, UM, TO BROTHERS TO TAKE YOU DOWN IN, INTO THE VISION OF WHAT THAT COMMUNITY IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL GIMME JUST A SECOND, PLEASE BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOR, FOR OTHERS WHO MAY BE FOLLOWING, UH, OR MAY WATCH THIS LATER, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MADEWELL COMPANIES, TOLL BROTHERS, AND KIND OF WHO'S DOING WHAT SO THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE PEOPLE WILL HEAR DIFFERENT NAMES, DIFFERENT COMPANIES, AND NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS ARE.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST BRIEFLY KIND IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHAT IS MADEWELL COMPANIES GOING TO HANDLE, AND THEN WHAT WILL, AND THEN WHAT WILL TOLL BROTHERS AND THEN THEY CAN KIND OF GET INTO THEIR PRESENTATION.
UM, AMIR, SO MADEWELL COMPANIES WILL BE THE DEVELOPER ACROSS THE 25 ACREAGE.
SO WE WILL DEVELOP IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES IN FOR THE COMPLETE ACREAGE, UM, THE WE UTILITIES AND GETTING IT THROUGH THE, UH, HORIZONTAL UTILITIES PUT IN PLACE.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, THEN WE HAVE, UH, WE'LL BE TRANSITIONING THE LOTS, THE, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH WILL BE THEN VERTICALLY BUILT BY TOLL BROTHERS.
WE WILL THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE COMMERCIAL TRACK, WHICH WILL BE OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WILL COMPLETE FROM VERTICAL STANDPOINT.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL, HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE.
ADDISON ROGERS, 2 5 5 5 SOUTHWEST GRAPEVINE PARKWAY, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS 7 6 0 5 1.
UH, AS I SAID THE LAST COUPLE TIMES I'VE HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE AT THIS PODIUM.
UH, IT'S SPECIAL FOR ME, UH, AS A PARENT OF A FUTURE WILEY EAST RAIDER.
UH, MY FAMILY AND I ARE BLESSED TO CONSIDER WILEY HOME FOR US.
SO IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
UM, MY GOAL IS THIS EVENING ARE QUITE SIMPLE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF REMIND, UH, THE COUNCIL OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR WORKSHOP SESSION.
UH, GO BACK OVER SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED THROUGH AT THAT POINT.
UM, I WILL ALSO STATE AT THIS TIME THAT, UM, WHEN WE WERE IN THAT WORK SESSION, OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WAS TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHETHER THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN APPROVAL OR A TEMPERATURE, IF YOU WILL, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, ONCE WE RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE WORK SESSION, WE THEN DID GO BACK, DIVE THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES IN DEVELOPMENT
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CODES, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER OBSTACLES OR HURDLES OR ISSUES THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM BEING ABLE TO DELIVER A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY.UH, WITH THAT WE DID FIND A FEW ITEMS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH WITH STAFF.
UM, GOT A COUPLE POSITIVE SOLUTIONS THAT, UH, I THINK WILL BENEFIT, UH, BOTH WILEY AND ALLOW US TO COME IN AND DELIVER AN EXCEPTIONAL COMMUNITY, UM, ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT.
BACKING UP ONE SECOND, I DO WANT TO, UH, EXPRESS THAT I AM, UH, TOLL BROTHERS ALSO ESPECIALLY, UH, EXCITED TO HAVE MADEWELL ON BOARD.
UM, TO THE MAYOR'S POINTED QUESTION ABOUT WHO ROLE IS LANDING, WHERE, UM, QUESTION NATURALLY SHOULD ARISE, YOU KNOW, TOLL BROTHERS DOES HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT ARM.
WHY WOULD TOLL BROTHERS NOT BE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING ALL OF THIS PROPERTY IN ONE FOLD? UM, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS QUITE SIMPLE.
WE'RE A RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDER.
YES, WE WILL DEVELOP PROPERTY, SORRY, BUT OUR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IS FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF THIS PIECE IS WHY THE PARTNERSHIP WITH MADEWELL IS ESPECIALLY BENEFICIAL FOR BOTH SIDES.
UM, 'CAUSE IT DOES GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY WITH THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE.
IT ALLOWS US TO COME IN AND DO WHAT WE DO BEST, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
NOTHING'S CHANGED ABOUT TOLL AS A COMPANY FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.
24 STATES 10TH LARGEST BY VOLUME IN THE COUNTRY.
FOURTH LARGEST BY REVENUE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, MULTIPLE AWARDS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE COMPANY.
UM, FIRST THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME IS THAT WE WOULD BE HOLDING COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS.
UH, WE DID HOLD TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS.
WHILE I WILL SAY THAT NEITHER ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS WAS EXCEPTIONALLY WELL ATTENDED, UM, WHAT WE DID GET IS FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS PRIMARILY IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES, UH, THAT DID ATTEND, WAS THAT THE REASON THEY WEREN'T WELL ATTENDED WAS THAT THE FEEDBACK THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD WAS ALL POSITIVE.
THAT THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE HAD PRESENTED HERE, UH, WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO BRING TO, UH, COLLEGE PARK WOULD BE TO THE BENEFIT OF PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES.
AND REALLY THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME WERE THERE JUST TO CARRY THE MESSAGE FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AND OWNERS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND THEY ALL WALKED AWAY FEELING LIKE THINGS WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT AND THAT THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THEM IN THEIR COMMUNITY ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME.
SO AS, UH, MOHAMMAD MENTIONED, UH, WE ARE REMOVING THE TOWN HOMES TO THE AMENITY CENTER, AN OVERALL DECREASE IN THE TOTAL DENSITY.
UH, WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, WE WERE LOOKING AT 68 TOTAL HOMES, A REDUCTION FROM THE 42 OR EXCUSE 82 IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
UM, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO ELIMINATE THAT RESTRICTION, TYING THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE QUESTION THE MAYOR ASKING ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHERE WE AS THE VERTICAL HOME BUILDING ENTITY NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BUILD OUR HOMES, BUILD OUR ROOFTOPS.
I ALSO LOOK AT THAT AS A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN OF WILEY BECAUSE THOSE ROOFTOPS ARE GONNA DRIVE THE COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE IT TO A BETTER OVERALL, UH, END RESULT FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN GOING FORWARD.
WE TALKED BRIEFLY ON THE REAR FACING WINDOWS.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE SLIDES THAT I'LL SHOW HERE IN A MOMENT THAT DID END UP AS PART OF OUR, UH, EX ZONING EXHIBITS.
JUST TO FURTHER ILLUSTRATE, MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY CONFUSION QUESTION OR ISSUE, UH, WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THERE AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE, UH, REDUCTION IN THE FENCE HEIGHT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT JUST ALIGNS BETTER TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE ARE PLANNING TO LAY THIS OUT.
UH, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE ALREADY ONCE, JUST WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE ARE.
THIS IS THE EXHIBIT THAT WE PUSHED TOGETHER FOR, UH, THE REAR WINDOWS.
UM, SO THIS DOES SHOW FROM THE INSIDE OF THE HOME LOOKING OUT, UH, WHERE ALL OF THOSE ARE.
IT SHOWS THE 10 FOOT MEASUREMENT, WHICH WAS THE PREVIOUS RESTRICTION SHOWS WHERE KIND OF IT IS AN EXAMPLE, UH, WHERE WE WOULD PROPOSE THOSE WINDOWS.
BUT AS IS CLEAR AND BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, IT'S ALSO WORDED THIS WAY, UH, IN THE ACTUAL, UH, ZONING AMENDMENT THAT THERE IS NO INHABITABLE OR LIVABLE SPACE IN THAT AREA.
SOMEBODY WANTED TO GRAB A LADDER.
SURE, YOU COULD GET UP AND LOOK OUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UTILITY OF THAT WOULD BE, BUT IT IS OBVIOUSLY THERE, BUT IT SHOWS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THEN SAME THING HERE, UH, JUST ANOTHER SIMILAR EXHIBIT SHOWING THE SAME VIEW FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT IT HELPS, HELPS MAINTAIN THE PRIVACY.
YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE'S BEDROOM OVERLOOKING THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, SO TO SPEAK.
SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT STILL MEETS THE PURPOSE, BUT I KNOW THE GOAL IS AMBIENT LIGHT.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE SECOND OF THE TWO IMAGES.
THIS IS THE SAME HOUSE FACING OUTWARD LOOKING IN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE WINDOWS SPECIFICALLY ARE UNDER A DEEP ROOF.
UM, SO BACK TO THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UTILITY WOULD BE OF STANDING ON A LADDER.
YOU REALLY COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING EVEN IF YOU DID.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND EXACTLY AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, IT IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF LIGHT INTO THE, UH, LIVING AREA OF THE HOME.
AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT, UH, AS WE DUG THROUGH SOME OF THE ORDINANCES, WE, UH, HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT JUST SMALL HANGUPS THAT WE CAME UP ALONG THE WAY.
THINGS THAT WE ARE, UH, HOPING TO IMPLEMENT HERE TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE SUCCESS ACROSS THE PROJECT.
UM, AS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE WORKSHOP,
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UH, WE WERE ASKED TO AMENITIZE, UH, THE, UH, HOA LOT THERE AT THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY.GET TO A SLIDE IN A MINUTE THAT KIND OF SHOWS HOW WE WERE ABLE TO LAY THAT OUT.
UH, IN THE SAME PROCESS WE DISCUSSED NEEDING TO MAINTAIN THE CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
WHATEVER ENDS UP HAPPENING WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AS SUCH, THE LOT COUNT HAS DECREASED FROM 68 TOTAL LOTS DOWN TO 67 LOTS.
SO AGAIN, A FURTHER REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL DENSITY OF THE PROPERTY REPETITION STANDARDS.
SO, UH, WE'VE TALKED PREVIOUSLY ABOUT OUR SUCCESS IN MURPHY AT OUR CRESCENT HILL PROJECT.
UM, THAT PROJECT WE WENT TO MARKET.
PART OF WHAT HELPED US BE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR BUSINESS IS THAT WE LIMITED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OPTIONS TO OUR BUYERS.
AS A BUILDER, WE ARE A BUILDER OF CHOICE.
WE WANT OUR BUYERS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SELECTIONS, CHOOSE THEIR HOME, CHOOSE THEIR FLOOR PLAN, CHOOSE THEIR ELEVATION.
UM, THAT'S A, A BUZZWORD IN IN OUR TIED TO OUR BRAND AND WHERE THE SPACE WE OCCUPY IN THE HOME BUILDING INDUSTRY.
AT THE SAME TIME, TOO MUCH CHOICE CAN BE A PARALYSIS.
UM, IN GENERAL, UM, IN THE IN WE LIKE TO LIMIT OUR COMMUNITIES TO A TOTAL OF 24 PLAN AND ELEVATION COM, UH, COMBINATIONS, GENERALLY SIX PLANS, FOUR ELEVATION STYLES, UM, THAT WE LIKE TO DELIVER IN THAT.
AS WE WERE DIGGING THROUGH KIND OF THE REPETITION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, YOU CAN TELL THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS VERY MUCH INTENDED TO ENSURE, UH, DIVERSITY AND UH, A WELL-BALANCED APPEARANCE ACROSS THE COMMUNITIES IN WILEY.
UM, AND AS WE LOOK AT TOLL BROTHERS PRODUCT IN COMPARISON TO THAT, UM, DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST OF THE OTHER BUILDERS IN NORTH TEXAS, EVEN IF SOME OF OUR ARCHITECTURE IS THE SAME QUOTE UNQUOTE STYLE, WHICH IS A WORD WE USE A SLIDE, I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE.
UM, THEY GENERALLY DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK ALL THAT SIMILAR.
UM, AS SUCH, WE WERE JUST ASKING FOR A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE REPETITIONS TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO GO TO MARKET WITH THAT SIX PLAN FOUR ELEVATION COMBINATION THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH.
I'LL GET TO A COUPLE SLIDES HERE IN A MINUTE THAT'LL HELP EXPLAIN THAT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BETTER VISUALLY SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, TAGLINE TO THAT, WE ALSO DID ADD IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ITSELF SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE JUST EXPLAINING WHAT DEFINES DIFFERENCES IN ELEVATIONS.
UM, ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE CAME UP TO, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM TOTAL SQUARE, UH, COVERED SQUARE, UH, COVERED PORCH SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, THAT STEMMED FROM, UH, JUST FULL TRANSPARENCY.
THE WAY THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN IS THAT SOME OF THE HOMES HAD A REQUIREMENT OF A MINIMUM FRONT PORCH IN A MINIMUM REAR PORCH.
UH, I'LL SHOW YOU ARCHITECTURALLY WHY THAT BECAME A PROBLEM FOR US.
SO OUR SOLUTION TO THAT IN WORKING WITH STAFF WAS TO INCREASE THE TOTAL, BUT TO ELIMINATE THE RESTRICTION BASED ON FRONT OR REAR.
THAT IN TOTAL YOU'LL END UP WITH THAT SAME AMOUNT OR GREATER OF COVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE PORCH AREAS.
UM, WE DID GO BACK THROUGH THE ZONING ON WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE.
AGAIN, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT 67 ROOFTOPS BEHIND THAT COMMERCIAL, IT'S IMPACTFUL TO US AND OUR BUSINESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THERE, UH, FITS BOTH FOR WILEY AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT WILL LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS ARE GONNA BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, AND THE LAST THING, UH, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SALES VELOCITY AND THE IDEA OF GETTING THIS PROJECT MOVING IN A FORWARD DIRECTION.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BREAK GROUND AND START CONSTRUCTION ON OUR MODEL HOME, UH, JUST AHEAD OF THE FULL SUB SUBDIVISION RELEASE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, WHICH IS GONNA BE CRITICAL FOR OUR PURPOSES TO GET TO THE POINT OF OPENING FOR SALE, UH, SELLING AND DELIVERING AND BRINGING THOSE HOMES INTO WILEY.
WITH THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IZING THE HOA LOT.
UM, THIS IS A CONCEPT OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THAT SPACE.
I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE THIS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, IT KIND OF OUTLINES THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
WE ENVISION THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS THE SPACE FOR ONE, THE BUS PICKUP FOR SCHOOL.
IT WOULD BE THE HANGOUT AREA FOR THE MOMS FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.
UM, JUST TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND HAVE AN AREA TO, UH, EXERCISE TO GET OUT OF THE HOME, UH, ESPECIALLY AT A YOUNGER AGE.
OVERALL, THE COMMUNITY ALIGNS STILL WITH WHAT WE KIND OF PRESENTED LAST TIME, WHICH IS THAT THIS IS GONNA BE IN A AMENITIZED ON YOUR LOT TYPE OF BUYER.
UM, TALKING ABOUT POOLS, TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR LIVING SPACES, THOSE WOULD BE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT OUR BUYERS TO INSTALL.
SIMILARLY, UH, WITHIN OUR CRESCENT HILL COMMUNITY, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY, MULTIPLE OWNERS ALREADY SUBMIT FOR, UH, POOLS THAT ARE STARTING CONSTRUCTION NOW BASED ON HAVING JUST CLOSED ON THEIR HOME.
SO I EXPECT THAT BUYER PROFILE WOULD FOLLOW HERE AND THAT THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD LAND.
SHIFTING OVER TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OR REPETITION, UH, ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU, FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES IN OUR WORLD, ALL FOUR OF THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST BASED ON THE DIFFERENCES IN FRONT OF YOU, BE THAT ROOF LINES BE THAT WHERE THE MATERIALS LAND ON THE EXTERIOR FACADE, DOOR PLACEMENT, UH, FRONT PORCH PLACEMENT.
THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE OUR SAME STYLE.
UM, WHICH WE WOULD CALL THIS A TRANSITIONAL ELEVATION.
UH, IF YOU CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THE HOUSE TO THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, AS I GO THROUGH MY NEXT TWO SLIDES AS WELL.
AGAIN, FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES, FOUR
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DIFFERENT, VERY DIFFERENT LOOK OF ELEVATION, SAME STYLE TO TOLL BROTHERS.UM, SO THEY DO, UH, HAVE A VERY DIFFERENCE OF OPINION OF APPEARANCE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME CLASSIC ELEVATION STYLE IN OUR WORLD.
AND LAST SLIDE, UH, THIS WAS WHAT WE CONSIDER THE MODERN FARMHOUSE.
THIS DOES REPRESENT CLOSELY OUR MODEL HOME IN MURPHY.
UM, AND IF YOU WATCH THE SLIDES AS I WAS GOING THROUGH, AND FOR THE TOP RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THAT WAS THE SAME FLOOR PLAN ACROSS ALL THREE DIFFERENT ELEVATION STYLES PRESENTED HERE.
UH, EVEN THOSE THREE ELEVATION STYLES OF THE SAME FLOOR PLAN HAVE A VARIANCE BOTH IN ROOF LINE, ROOF PITCH, MASSING ELEVATION.
YOU CAN SEE THOSE DIFFERENCES.
THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED IN THIS REQUEST ON THIS ADJUSTMENT TO THE REPETITION CLAUSE IS TO BE ABLE TO AGAIN, GO TO MARKET, DELIVER SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL, UH, AND GIVE OUR BUYERS WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE CHOICES AND GET OUR COMMUNITY COMPLETE AND DEVELOPED.
THIS JUST THE PICTURE TO SHOW.
AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, THIS IS OUR MODEL THERE AT CRESCENT HILL.
UH, I WILL SAY IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY TO SEE IT, THIS IS KIND OF YOUR LAST CHANCE.
UH, IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEPOSIT WITH A PURCHASER, UH, THROUGH OUR SALES TEAM.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BY NOW IS THE TIME.
UM, BY THE END OF, UH, NEXT WEEK, I DO EXPECT THAT IT WILL BE UNDER FULL CONTRACT AND WITH A CLOSING DATE IN THE, UH, NEXT COMING MONTHS.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GET BY THERE, UM, THIS ISN'T, UH, SAME AGAIN, KITCHEN SHOT INSIDE OF THAT SAME HOME.
UM, AS YOU CAN TELL, THIS IS KIND OF THE LEVEL OF, OF QUALITY OF PRODUCT THAT WE WOULD INTEND TO BRING AND WHAT WE WOULD PRESENT, UH, HERE IN WILEY.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL GLADLY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ITEM, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT.
THAT WAY IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, WE CAN HAVE THOSE ADDRESSED AS WELL.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO SO AT THIS TIME, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, COUNCILMAN STRAIN QUESTION.
NO, I'M WAITING FOR YOU TO OPEN OR WE'RE BACK INTO OUR COMMENTS.
WE ARE LET GIMME ONE SECOND TO SAY ONE THING.
UH, I JUST DON'T NEED TO STEP FORWARD.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL.
I KNOW IT REQUIRED A MONETIZING THE FRONT LOT, WHICH IS A COST TO YOU GUYS.
UM, AND YOU WENT OUT AND FOUND A PARTNER FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND LISTENED TO THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PORTION IT, YOU KNOW, IT CURRENT OWNER COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL, WITH THE PROJECT THAT THAT DIDN'T GET LEFT BEHIND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT FEEDBACK AND ALSO FOR KEEPING THE PRIVACY RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN PLACE FOR THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WHICH WAS PART OF AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS COUNCIL WORK THROUGH WITH THE PRIOR APPLICANT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, COUNCILMAN STRANG.
UH, THIS IS MUCH IMPROVED OVER WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PITCHED TO US.
I THINK, GOSH, WHAT? IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS NOW, YEAR AND A HALF.
AND I DO LIKE, UH, HOW IT'S ALL KIND OF COME TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CUTTING OF THE COMMERCIAL BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY IN HALF.
I ALMOST KIND OF FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST MAKE IT ALL HOMES.
IT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE MORE SENSE.
BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I LIKE IT.
UM, I WANNA ECHO THE SENTIMENT OF MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN STR ABOUT PUTTING THE TIME AND THE EFFORT.
I KNOW WE'VE MET MULTIPLE TIMES WITH BOTH OF YOU.
BOTH PARTIES HAVE REQUESTED MEETINGS JUST ABOUT OVERALL AND WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE TIME AND THE EFFORT ON THIS AND MAKING IT THIS TO A POINT WHERE HOPEFULLY WE'VE SEEN SOME LIGHT, UH, AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL HERE.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS TIMELINE FROM, UH, MOHAMMAD'S STANDPOINT, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING TOLD BROTHERS PUT A HOUSE ON START BUILDING THE HOUSE OR BUILDING THE MODEL HOME? WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE DELIVERING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND THE SPACE FORWARD SO THEY CAN START BUILDING? ABSOLUTELY.
WE WOULD LOVE TO INVITE THE COUNCIL TO HELP GO, COME TO OUR GROUNDBREAKING IF WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE.
HOPEFULLY, UH, END OF FIRST QUARTER EARLY, UH, SECOND QUARTER.
AND THEN, UH, HOPEFULLY WITHIN, UH, 12 TO 14 MONTHS WE SHOULD BE IN, IN THE, UH, SCHEDULE TO GET OUR MODEL, UH, TIMELINE SET UP 12 TO 14 MONTHS FROM THE, FROM GROUNDBREAKING.
AND THEN, UM, SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY BEING IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL PART OF IT BY MYSELF, UM, WE'VE SEEN MANY PROJECTS, A LOT OF PROJECTS COME IN FRONT OF US AND THEN MID PROJECTS, THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WELL, MARKET IS NOT LOOKING SO GREAT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS LOOKING THIS, THIS IS LOOKING THAT THE PRICE OF THE DIRT IS
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VERY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL.'CAUSE YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH IN TERMS OF RENT VALUE ON THAT.
MY FEAR AND WHAT WE HAVE, COUNCILMAN STRANG MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THAT WE'RE CUTTING COMMERCIAL IN HALF.
MY FEAR IS THAT IN 24 TO 48 MONTHS, YOU'RE GONNA COME TO BACK TO US AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE SO MUCH IN DIRT FOR THIS COMMERCIAL PROJECT AND WE COULDN'T FIND A SPECIFIC DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DEVELOP THIS OR BRING IN THE USERS FOR THIS.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE GO.
HAVE YOU GONE, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU'RE IN BUSINESS FOR A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THOSE? HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT WHAT THE MARKET BRINGS IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL VALUE TO THE WILEY? HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE USERS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD COME AND WHAT THOSE LEASES COULD LOOK LIKE? AND ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? ARE YOU, I DON'T WANNA SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT 'CAUSE NOTHING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY OF MOVING FORWARD THAT A COMMERCIAL WILL DEVELOP ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME THAT TOBO WOULD EXIT THIS BUILT OUT? ABSOLUTELY.
AM MAYOR PORTER, GREAT QUESTIONS.
AND UH, I KNOW IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, SO AS A DEVELOPER, SO MADEWELL COMPANIES, JUST TO GIVE A CONTEXT, IS BOTH A RESIDENTIAL LOT DEVELOPER AND HOME DEVELOPER AS WELL AS WE HAVE A, UH, FULL COMMERCIAL, UM, ARM.
SO WE ARE INTO COMMERCIAL VERTICAL.
WE, UH, CURRENTLY, UM, DO A LOT OF BIG BOX CONVERSIONS AND RETAIL, UH, GROUND UP AS WELL.
SO WE ARE IN THE ACTUAL BUSINESS FOR DOING THE GROUND UP ON THE SPECULATIVE AS WELL AS, UH, BUILD TO SUIT PRODUCT.
SO, UM, YES, WE HAVE, UM, GONE IN AND DONE OUR ANALYSIS AND WE ARE PAYING A PREMIUM TO SORT OF TAKING THIS DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE, THE FINISH LINE.
UH, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY CRITICAL FOR US TO HAVE A PARTNER LIKE TOLL BROTHERS TO ENSURE THE MARKETABILITY OF THAT COMMERCIAL, UM, REALLY STRETCHES OUT.
WE ALSO WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON IN ENSURING THOSE INTENDED USES IS ALSO, UH, WORKS WITH THE MARKET CONDITIONS OF WHAT'S, UH, DOABLE AND NOT DOABLE.
SO WE RUN OUR MODELS, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE MARKETING THIS, UM, AS WE BREAK GROUND.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE WAITING FOR HOMES TO BE COMPLETED FOR THIS TO BE MARKETED.
IN FACT, WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME GOOD, UM, CONSULTATIONS WITH SOME OF OUR RETAIL PARTNERS TO HAVE EARLY INTEREST INTO KIND OF GO IN.
OUR MODEL USUALLY IS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ALL PRE-SOLD OR LEA BEFORE WE EVEN KIND OF GO INTO THAT.
SO I WILL ATTEST TO THAT, THAT WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD CORRIDOR AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLLEGE AND WITH THE ACTIVATION THAT'S ALREADY DONE ON THE RETAIL, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, UH, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY, UH, UM, POSITED ABOUT KIND OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO WE'RE TAKING A BET AND UH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD FOR THIS TO BE A GREAT CORRIDOR FOR COMMERCIAL.
FIRST IS, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A PARTNERSHIP LEVEL THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND, AND YOU KNOW, EVEN TODAY, PUBLICLY YOU GUYS SAID IT, UH, THE MARKET, IT'S A MARKET.
IT'S SOME DAYS GOOD, SOME DAYS BAD, SOME DAYS GOES UP, SOME DAYS GOES DOWN.
UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF I'M CORRECT, THERE IS NO HAZARDS GONNA BE PUT ON THE GROUND PER SE IN 2027 OR FIRST QUARTER, 2027, GIVE OR TAKE, COME TO THE FINAL PART OF IT.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH NO MATTER HOW THE MARKET SWINGS OR LEVELS OR OR GO IN THAT MOVING FORWARD THAT THIS PROJECT WILL DEVELOP AND DEVELOP IT AT RAPID PACE, UM, IN TERMS OF BOTH SIDES AND, AND THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WORKING.
YEAH, I MEAN I UH, OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DEPTH OF KIND OF CORRECT THE CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UH, ON THE SURFACE I WOULD SAY IS THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE EXTREMELY ECONOMICALLY VESTED ALREADY INTO THE DIRT TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, UH, WITH EVEN THE MARKET CONDITIONS, I KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY TOLL BROTHERS BRING THAT, UH, CREDIBILITY WITHIN, UH, ALL SORTS OF MARKETS THAT SORT OF HAS PERFORMED.
AND WITH THE SERIOUSNESS OF KIND OF HOW WE BUILT THIS STRUCTURE THAT, UM, I SEE VERY, VERY FEW CHANCES OF US NOT PERFORMING GOING FORWARD REGARDLESS OF, OBVIOUSLY NOBODY CAN ATTEST TO THAT, BUT THE PROJECT THAT I SHOWED ABOUT ON MCKINNEY REALLY ACTUALLY WENT IN THROUGH COVID TIMEFRAME.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEEN THOSE TOUGH TIMES AND WE HAVE SORT OF MUSCLED UP AS TO KIND OF MAKE SURE IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WAY.
UH, SO I FEEL STRONG ABOUT KIND OF THE MARKET SENTIMENT WE'RE GETTING INTO WITH THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I THINK THOSE WINS ARE COMING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US AND I'LL LET TOLL BROTHERS YEAH.
AND ABSOLUTELY ON THE, ON THE TOLL BROTHERS SIDE, AS A PUBLICLY TRADED HOME BUILDER WITH SHAREHOLDERS TO ANSWER TO UM, OUR, UM, INTERNAL AND UH, CORPORATE MANAGEMENT WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE SITTING WITHOUT, UH, FORWARD VELOCITY, ASSUMING A WORST CASE MARKET SCENARIO THAT VELOCITY WILL OBVIOUSLY SLOW, UH, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIT AND JUST HAVE NO ACTIVITY.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, I SAW THAT ON THE FAR SIDE ON THE BACK END OF THE HOMES, UH, TOWARDS MUDDY
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CREEK LAKE, YOU GUYS PUT AN EASEMENT, A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT IT WASN'T THERE BEFORE ON THE PREVIOUS ITERATIONS THAT'S SHOWN.IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC REASONS FOR THAT? UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THERE, THERE WE GO.
RIGHT ON ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE FIRST PLAT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER.
SO JUST KIND OF WANNA KNOW THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF THAT AND ABSOLUTELY.
SO YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PROPERTY THAT BOUNDS LAKE RANCH, CORRECT? YES, CORRECT.
YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO, DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK? YOU CAN.
UM, SO WHAT THAT'S ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT EASEMENT EXISTS CURRENTLY.
AND WE ARE VACATING THE EASEMENT AND SHIFTING THAT PERIOD OF DRAINAGE TO UNDERNEATH THE CENTER OF THE STREET GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
AND THEN THAT WOULD DISCHARGE INTO THE DETENTION POND THERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
AGAIN, IT SHOWS OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN AND THE THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN.
SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM.
MAYOR PROTON, UH, MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
A MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DUKE? YES, MR. MAYOR, I SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
[4. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of two ordinances for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2020-27 (PD 2020-27) to Commercial Corridor and Planned Development - Townhouse District (CC and PD-TH) on 20.381 acres to allow for commercial and townhome development. Property located at 2535 and 2701 S. State Highway 78 (ZC 2025-19). ]
WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THANK Y'ALL, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF TWO ORDINANCES FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2020 DASH 27 PD 2020 DASH 27 TO COMMERCIAL QUARTER AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT CC AND PDTH ON 20.381 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AND TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25 35 AND 27 0 1 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 78, ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 19.MR. HASKINS, GIMME JUST A SECOND HERE.
THE, UH, SOMETHING IS, ALRIGHT, THERE WE GO.
UM, SO THIS IS OUR LEAST COMPLICATED ZONING CASE OF THE EVENING.
I SAY THAT, JUST TRY TO BEAR WITH ME HERE.
'CAUSE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SPLITTING A PD INTO A PD AND STRAIGHT ZONING.
UM, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, UM, A COMPANY CALLED DRA LONG TIME, UH, SHOULD SAY IT FEELS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO NOW, UM, 2020 GOT APPROVED.
IT, YEAH, IT PREDATES ME SITTING IN THIS CHAIR, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, DA DRE GOT APPROVED FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS A, A LARGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD TOWN HOMES AND APARTMENTS AND, AND, AND COMMERCIAL AND ALL THAT.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, THAT NEVER MATERIALIZED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS STRUCTURED.
THEY NOW, THERE'S TWO DISTINCT PROPERTIES OUT THERE, UM, THAT HAVE BOTH BEEN FORECLOSED ON AND THEY HAVE TWO DISTINCT DIFFERENT OWNERS.
UM, THE MAIN PROPERTY, UH, IS, UH, CRESTLINE HAS TAKEN OVER, UM, AND THOUGH THAT APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING, THAT IS THE LARGE PROPERTY THEY'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS WITH COUNCIL LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, WORK SESSIONS WITH COUNCIL AND DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, THEY'VE DECIDED TO JUST ASK FOR STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT MATCHES THE, UH, THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, AND THAT GIVES THEM OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PRODUCE OR PURSUE JUST COMMERCIAL TYPE DEVELOPMENT.
THAT BEING SAID, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE SOUTHWEST, UM, IS WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE.
THAT OWNER IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING.
THAT OWNER IS AWARE OF WHAT IS IS HAPPENING, UM, AND HAS BASICALLY PROVIDED LITTLE INPUT JUST YEAH, THAT'S FINE, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
WHAT THIS REQUEST WOULD DO IS THE LARGER PROPERTY, THE 16 ACRES WOULD GO TO STRAIGHT CC.
THE SMALLER PROPERTY WITH THE TOWN HOMES WOULD BE DISCONNECTED FROM.
THAT WOULD BE A NEW PD TO ALLOW THE TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT TO STAY AS IT CURRENTLY IS IN THE OVERALL PD.
UM, AND THEN THAT WAY THE APPLICANT THAT, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE, THE NON APPLICANT, BUT THEY'RE AFFECTED BY THIS.
IT REMOVES ANY CONCURRENCY, YOU KNOW, FROM ANY DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE NO IN, IN NO WAY AFFILIATED.
UM, IT ALLOWS THAT PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE FOR THOSE TOWN HOMES SHOULD THEY WISH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
OR THEY CAN COME BACK TO COUNSEL AND, AND, AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE IF THEY WISH.
BUT THE MAIN EMPHASIS WOULD BE CREST LINE AND THEY'RE HERE THIS EVENING IF THEY HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO JUST TURN THAT 16, UM, 0.2 ACRES INTO STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
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WITH THAT I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.UM, P AND Z DID RECOMMEND A APPROVAL FIVE ZERO AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC FROM ANY OF THE, UM, THE NOTICES WE SENT OUT.
WELL I WILL START US WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON IT THEN, IN CASE ANYONE IS HERE THIS EVENING AND DOES WISH TO SPEAK.
SO, MS. DORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I'M OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE PRESENT AND WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL WOULD ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SO MS. DORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE STEP FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'RE COUPLED WITH ANOTHER COMPANY THAT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THEM MOVING FORWARD.
AND I'M AWARE THAT THE PD WAS, WE'LL JUST SAY IT WAS SINGULARLY UNIQUE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO BUILD EXACTLY WHAT WAS PUT FORWARD THERE.
UH, AND WITH STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL FITTING OUR ZONING PLAN FOR IT, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND WITH THE CREEK IN BETWEEN, THERE'S NO WAY TO CONNECT THOSE PROPERTIES AND EXTEND COMMERCIAL OVER THERE.
AND IT PROVIDES KIND OF A BARRIER BETWEEN THE APARTMENTS AS WELL, UH, THAT ARE IN SAXE THERE.
COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MAYOR, PRO TEM.
WAS THAT A, WAS THIS IN ONE PLAT OR THE WHOLE PROJECT WAS ONE PLAT OR WAS IT TWO DIFFERENT PLATS? UM, IT WOULD'VE ACTUALLY BEEN SEPARATE PLATS.
SO THAT FAR LEFT CORNER PD, THE TRIANGLE TRIANGLE TYPE OF THING, THAT'S GONNA BE SEPARATED FROM THIS? YES SIR.
THIS PART COMMERCIAL? YES SIR.
THEY WILL BE TWO DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
HOW BIG IS THAT PIECE LEFT OUT? ABOUT FOUR ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE, MAYBE FIVE.
AND THAT WILL BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL OR STRAIGHT? UH, IT'S GONNA STAY, IT'S, IT WOULD BE TOWN HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS.
BUT CURRENTLY IS MIXED, MIXED DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING? NO.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE I WASN'T PART OF THAT EVENT.
PART OF THE APPROVAL AT THE TIME, E ESSENTIALLY THEY, THEY BOUGHT BOTH PIECES AND ASKED FOR A ZONING THAT WOULD COVER BOTH, BUT THAT TRIANGLE ONLY EVER HAD TOWN HOMES ON IT.
SO THEY WERE GONNA DO LIKE A WALKABLE BRIDGE ACROSS TO THE COMMERCIAL AND THEN THEY WERE APARTMENTS MIXED IN AND GROCERY STORES AND DIFFERENT, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.
YEAH, THEY WERE, IT WAS A
THEY HAD ALL SORTS OF THINGS PUT ON THERE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THE PD, THAT TRIANGLE THAT'S ACROSS WAS ALWAYS TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN THERE WERE NO TOWN HOMES IN THE PIECE THAT IS NOW CRESTLINE.
THAT WAS A MIXTURE OF COMMERCIAL AND APARTMENTS.
AND THAT'S THE 16.2, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUGGESTING TO DROP THE PD, SEPARATE THE PIECES AND TURN THEIRS INTO JUST STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN THE OTHER APPLICANT WHO OWNS THE PART THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN TOWN HOMES JUST KEEPS THEM TOWN HOMES ESSENTIALLY.
AND THAT'S NOT ON A FLOOD PLAIN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT 4.2 ACRES, IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED, CAN'T BE DEVELOPED, TOWN OWNS FOR, FOR IT.
CAN I HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT'S ASKING TO TURN THIS INTO A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR? SURE.
THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND, AND WHAT'S THE ACHIEVABLE GOAL HERE? GOOD EVENING.
UH, JAMES DELAN, 53 19 QUAIL RUN STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS 7 6 1 0 7.
WOULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WIFE TURNED THIS INTO A FULL COMMERCIAL, YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN THERE DEVELOPED AND WHAT YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE OVERALL AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF DROPPING THAT FROM, OBVIOUSLY IT BEING A DIFFERENT OWNER, I'M ASSUMING NO AGREEMENT WAS REACHED.
SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, WAS REALLY LISTENING TO, TO YOU ALL MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
WE CAME BACK LAST YEAR IF YOU DON'T, SO WE, WE FINANCED THE DEVELOPER, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER WHO DEFAULTED ON THE LOAN.
FORTUNATELY WE HAD TO FORECLOSE ON THE ASSET.
UM, WE STARTED LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
HOW DO WE DEVELOP THIS? UH, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD FROM THE MARKET WITH RESPECT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE WAS THAT IT WASN'T ENOUGH DENSITY TO REALLY BRING SOMEONE INTO DEVELOP.
SO WE CAME BACK LAST YEAR FOR A, TO INCREASE DENSITY REQUESTS, WHICH WAS DENIED.
I THINK A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL WAS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO THIS WAS NOT WHAT COUNCIL WANTED, I THINK IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.
UM, SO WE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK TO HEART.
WE WENT BACK AND THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH JUST A CONVERTING TO THIS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR PROPOSAL.
HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND THOUGHT PROCESS OF WHAT
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YOU THINK THIS IS GONNA COME IN? OR ARE YOU JUST TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVED AS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND THEN MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT LEVEL? I THINK THE, THE, THE LATTER IS CORRECT.JUST I THINK WE'RE, WE, WE HAD ONE, UH, GROUP LAST YEAR ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE THAT WE BROUGHT, WE TALKED TO, UH, JASON AND HIS TEAM ON IT.
I THINK THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT IT WASN'T GONNA WORK.
I THINK, UH, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT EARLIER, DEVELOPING INTO THIS PD IS PROBABLY EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT.
SO I THINK FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT A DEVELOPER.
UM, AND I THINK OUR THOUGHT PROCESS HERE IS GET SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS AND LET THE MARKET DICTATE WHAT THIS ENDS UP BEING.
BUT WHAT, LIKE TO, BUT TO YOUR POINT, SIR, WE, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT A DEVELOPER.
WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AROUND THIS ASSET.
SO YOU, HERE'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THAT.
AND OBVIOUSLY I'M ONE OF SEVEN, SO EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT THOUGHT PROCESS.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS PROJECT AND OBVIOUSLY NOW YOU GUYS ARE STUCK WITH IT IN THE SENSE OF THE WORD.
UM, FOR A LONG TIME IT WAS APPROVED AS A WHOLE AT ONE TIME AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU BROUGHT A PROJECT BACK TO US IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY.
I I AGREE IT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL.
WHAT I AM CONCERNED IS THAT BECAUSE THE MARKET HAS NOT SPOKEN OR YOU GUYS HAVE NOT GONE TO THE MARKET AND KIND OF SAY, HEY, IF WE GET THIS APPROVED THIS, WHAT IS THE FEASIBILITY OF DEVELOPING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THE ABILITY TO PUT COMMERCIAL VIABILITY ON THE WHOLE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE ASKING 16 ACRES AND DEVELOPING IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL VIABILITY.
I'M AFRAID THAT NOW YOU GO TO MARKET WITH THIS APPROVAL, WE'RE APPROVING SOMETHING TONIGHT, 12 MONTHS FROM NOW, YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK AND SAY, WELL THE MARKET HAS SPOKEN, WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE.
LET'S GO BACK TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO OUR GOAL, AT LEAST MY GOAL IS TO DEVELOP THIS PIECE TO THE BEST OF THE ABILITY THAT'S GONNA SERVE THE WIRELESS CITIZENS IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OR WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.
IT'S NOT FAVORING ANYBODY IN OUR CITY.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S PUTTING THE TAX BURDEN TO OUR CITIZENS.
SO DEVELOPING THIS, IT'S AN, A BIG, BIG PROPONENT OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF LIKE, ALRIGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD AT LEAST SOME SORT OF AN INTERESTED PARTY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A CHANGE AND DROP.
'CAUSE NOW WE'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT AND SCRAMBLE.
THE OTHER PARTY MAY COME TO US AND THEY MAY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.
I JUST DON'T SEE HOW, AND WE'RE WHERE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY PART.
WELL I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UH, COMING FORWARD.
AS I SAID THIS, I I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD DEVELOP THE PD AND I DO UNDERSTAND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS A LENDER NOT BEING A DEVELOPER, YOU REALLY CAN'T MARKET SOMETHING THAT'S A PD LIKE THAT'S WRITTEN IN THAT WAY BECAUSE NO ONE'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET SOMEONE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE OF WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T BUILD UNLESS THEY BUILD EXACTLY TO THOSE SPECIFICATIONS.
SO, UM, I I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, OF TRYING TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE MARKET ESSENTIALLY WITH THE ENCUMBRANCES CLEARLY SPELLED OUT AS OPPOSED TO THE DOCUMENT THAT CURRENTLY CURRENTLY EXISTS SO THAT Y'ALL CAN TRY TO GET SOME INTEREST THERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND AND, AND IT MAY HAVE TO COME BACK.
THERE MAY BE SOME REQUESTS THAT COME THROUGH FOR AN SUP OR SOMETHING, BUT, UH, I THINK Y'ALL WILL HAVE A MUCH EASIER TIME FINDING SOMEONE TO TAKE THAT ON WITH A UNDERLYING ZONING THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
SO I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S PROBABLY DRIVING THE REQUEST.
SO, UH, WE DID THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT.
UM, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM? AND IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN PICKENS.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THE ITEM IS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
[5. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light Industrial (LI) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LI-SUP) on 0.88 acres to allow for Vehicle Display, Sales, or Service. Property located at 114 Regency Drive (ZC 2025-17). ]
MOVE TO NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS ALSO TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LI TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT.L-I-S-U-P ON 0.88 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES OR SERVICE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 1 4 REGENCY DRIVE ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 17.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS ASKING, THERE'S A, A, A BUILDING, UM, OBVIOUSLY
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1 1 14, UH, REGENCY.UM, IT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, BUT ANY AUTO SALES AT ALL REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THE CITY, WILEY.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS FOR THE SUP.
UM, THIS IS AN INTERNET BASED COMPANY.
UM, ALL OF THE CARS WILL BE STORED INSIDE SALES WILL BE TAKING PLACE INSIDE.
THEY GENERALLY DO BUSINESS, UM, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, NINE TO FIVE.
UM, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IT DOES REQUIRE AN SUP.
UM, THE P AND Z UM, ASKED ABOUT THE INTERNET BASED SALES.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS THAT IF COUNSEL WANTS.
UM, THEIR GENERAL BUSINESS HOURS, LIKE I MENTIONED IS NINE TO FIVE, BUT THAT'S NOT WRITTEN INTO THE SUP 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WITH INTERNET SALES, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO STOP BY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UM, TO, TO PICK UP THE CAR OR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
UM, THE P AND Z COMMISSION DID VOTE SIX ZERO.
UM, WE DID SEND OUT, UH, 20 RES, UH, APP, I'M SORRY, TWO 20, NO OR 20 NOTIFICATIONS.
WE DID GET THREE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LIMB.
I HATE PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLE'S MOUTHS, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD, UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING.
'CAUSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT NOISE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL NOISE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I'M SURE BEING RIGHT ALONG REGENCY YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT LIVE RIGHT BEHIND TARGET OR, OR FLOOR AND DECOR.
UM, I'M SURE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN, UM, UNFORTUNATELY OUTSIDE OF MAYBE NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS THAT THEY'VE HEARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S STAFF'S OPINION AND P AND Z AFTER HEARING IT THAT THIS PARTICULAR KIND OF BUSINESS, UM, BEING WHAT IT IS, IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL, UM, FROM THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
OKAY, WELL, I THINK I WILL START US OUT THE SAME WAY I DID LAST TIME.
SO WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
SO MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, I'D ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
OKAY, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UM, COULD YOU HELP ME, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
I CAN'T QUITE TELL WHICH WAY THE BUILDING FACES 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I CAN SEE SPRING, WELL, SPRING WELL WOULD BE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAPER.
SPRING WELL WOULD BE AREA TWO OR AREA ONE.
UH, IF YOU'RE SEEING, UH, SPRING WOULD BE CLOSER TO AREA TWO.
SO WHERE'S THE RED? IS THE RED AGAINST SPRING? WELL, NO.
OR IS IT AGAINST? IT'S AGAINST RE REGENCY DRIVE.
YEAH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT THERE.
IT'S WRITTEN, UH, VERTICALLY SAYS REGENCY DRIVE.
I, YEAH, THE FAINTNESS IN THE, THE SIDEWAYS THERE GOT ME ON THAT ONE.
AND WHERE'S IT LOOKS LIKE, AGAIN, I'M NOT GREAT AT READING PLANS.
IS THAT AN ENTRANCE ONTO SPRING? WELL, NO SIR, THERE ARE NO ENTRANCES.
WELL, IT ONLY COME FROM REGENCY.
I COULDN'T TELL WHAT THE LITTLE CUTOUT GOING ON THAT SIDE IS, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, DRIVING DOWN IN MY HEAD.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS ANYTHING IN REGENCY BUSINESS PARK THAT EXITS ONTO SPRING.
WELL, I DON'T THINK SO UNTIL YOU GET TO, UM, WILD FORK.
BUT I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M YES, SIR.
THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY.
THOSE WERE MY FIRST QUESTIONS.
I WANNA SEE IF COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? I GUESS I'LL ASK AS WELL.
OBVIOUSLY THE SUP STATES DISPLAY SALE SERVICES, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE REPAIR, CORRECT? NO, IT, IT WOULD, ALL THE REASON THAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN THAT WAY IS BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY BRINGS A CAR AND LIKE OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE AN INTER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE TIRES AND CHANGE, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND CLEAN IT UP, UM, BEFORE THEY SELL IT, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
UM, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT IS EPA, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A PAINT BOOTH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THERE.
UM, BUT THEY CAN DO LIKE MINOR TYPE OF THINGS IF NEED BE.
AND IS THAT REQUIRED TO BE DONE INSIDE AS WELL? YES, SIR.
BASED ON THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, SIR? YES, SIR.
JUST MAKING SURE THERE WON'T BE VEHICLES IN VARIOUS STATES OF THAT.
UPDATE, FIX UP, UH, JUST SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT THERE EITHER, SO, YEAH.
THIS BUILDING, THERE'S THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
WHAT'S ON THAT BUILDING? UH, WHAT'S ON THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING? I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CURRENT LEASE IS.
UM, AND THE, THE, THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE BUILDING'S NOT HERE THIS EVENING, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT THERE'S A ANOTHER SPACE FOR LEASE.
ON THE BACK END, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
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BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT SPACES.I, I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW MANY, UH, THAT BUILDING ONE, HOW MANY SPACES ARE, HOW IT'S DIVIDED OUT.
AND IF I'M LOOKING CORRECTLY ACROSS FROM, THIS IS THE SMITH TOOL MANUFACTURING, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT NEXT TO IT ON THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING STRAIGHT TO IT, 1 1 6, YOU'LL BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
I DON'T HAVE THE USES LISTED IN FRONT OF ME, SIR.
IS THIS BUSINESS OPERATING SOMEWHERE HERE IN WILEY OR, OR NO.
ANY SURROUNDING AREAS OR DOES A BRAND BUSINESS CURRENTLY YOUR GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYORS AND CITY COUNCIL? UH, MY NAME IS ZHA CATO, UH, 68 0 8 EAST VIEW DRIVE, UH, SAXE, TEXAS.
AND, UH, I'M THE OWNER OF TEXAS.
AUTOBI IS THE NAME OF THE DEALERSHIP.
UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO YOU OPERATE THIS BUSINESS SOMEWHERE WITHIN WYLAND OR IN SURROUNDING AREAS, OR THIS IS A BRAND NEW BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE OPENING? NO, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION IN DALLAS, UH, RIGHT OFF OF 6 35 AND 75 AREA.
HOW MANY APPROXIMATE VEHICLES YOU CAN FIT INSIDE IN THIS PLACE? 20 TO 25 CARS.
AND I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE GONNA BE USED CARS? YEAH, WE SPECIALIZE IN USED CARS, UH, SPECIFICALLY LUXURY TO MID, YOU KNOW, OR RIGHT BEFORE EXOTIC CARS.
UM, AND, UH, THE REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE A WAREHOUSE IS IT'S, YOU KNOW, SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR CARS.
UM, I, I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO WILEY.
UM, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, WILEY'S A VERY SAFE CITY FOR CAR BUSINESS.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S THE REASON WHY.
WILL THERE BE SOMEBODY WORKING THERE NINE TO FIVE EVERY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY? WILL THEY BE EMPLOYEES AT ALL OR? YEAH, WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN EMPLOYEES ALL, ALL THE TIME THERE.
COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPER OR APPLICANT? UH, OR FOR MR. HASKINS ON THIS? OKAY.
I'M JUST NOTICING HERE AS I'M LOOKING ON GOOGLE MAPS, I MEAN, THIS SEEMS TO FIT IN VERY NICELY WITH WHAT'S ALREADY ALONG REGENCY, UM, AS IT STANDS NOW, SO LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
ANY COUNCILMAN PICKENS? UM, SO I'VE BEEN LOOKING OVER THE INCLUDED DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE REDLINED.
UH, I'M NOT REAL SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY I'M LOOKING AT THAT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE RED LINES.
UH, SO THAT IS, UH, THE FRONT IS AN OFFICE SPACE AND THE BACK OR, SO THE LEFT OF THE, OF THE RED, UH, LINING IS THE ACTUAL WAREHOUSE.
UM, SO ON THE FRONT WE HAVE THE RECEPTION AND OFFICES IN THE BACK, UM, IS WHERE WE STORE ALL THE WAREHOUSES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE REGENCY, UM, FRONT.
SO IN HINDSIGHT, COUNCILMAN PICKENS IS PROBABLY INFORMATION OVERLOAD.
UM, THIS FIRST PAGE PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN HOPEFULLY ENOUGH TO MAKE, HAVE COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKE, BE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT.
UM, BUT WE LEFT IT IN BECAUSE WE SENT IT TO P AND Z ALSO MM-HMM
UM, FOR EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S TO SHOW LIKE HOW THEY'RE GONNA REMODEL THE INTERIOR AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS A ZONING EXHIBIT GOES, THIS FIRST PAGE THAT, UM, YOU SEE ON THE MAIN SCREEN IS THE ONE THAT'S OF UTMOST CONCERN IN THAT IT FOLLOWS THE P THE SUP CONDITIONS, THAT THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED 5,400 SQUARE FEET AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING OKAY.
SO IF I TAKE IT, IF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS RIGHT, Y'ALL PULLED THESE DRAWINGS AND Y'ALL RED LINE MARKS ON IT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DONE ANY DESIGN WORK OR ENGINEERING WORK ON THE BUILDING, IS THAT RIGHT? HELLO, MY NAME IS LA PRI SING 6 6 0 4 JUPITER ROAD, PLANO, TEXAS.
UM, SO THESE DRAWINGS ARE ACTUALLY ONLY THERE BECAUSE THE PACKET REQUESTED IT.
NO REHABBING OF THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING HAPPENED WHATSOEVER, AND WE HAVE NO PLANS TO DO SO AT THIS POINT.
UH, THE ONLY KIND OF REHAB THAT'S HAPPENED IS WALL REPAIR, UH, PAINT FLOORING ON THE INTERIOR.
UH, BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENING.
UH, THE RED LINE IS JUST THERE TO, TO SHOWCASE THE 5,400 SQUARE, 5,400 SQUARE FEET THAT ARE GONNA BE UTILIZED FOR MR. ZA HARRIS'S BUSINESS.
UH, TO THE LEFT, THERE'S ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.
AND, UH, I THINK YOU GUYS HAD SOME QUESTIONS.
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WHERE THAT BEE IS, IS WHERE THE FRONT OFFICE IS NOW, THE, THE HOMES ARE ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT SIDE.UM, I FORGET THE NAME OF THAT STREET ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT, UM, HE'S COMPLETELY AWAY FROM ALL THOSE HOMES AND THERE'S NO REMODELING HAPPENING ON THE EXTERIOR.
PROTON, MAY I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION? SURE.
WHAT'S ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING? WHAT BUSINESSES DO YOU HAVE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING? BECAUSE I TEND TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS BUSINESS.
IF WE HAVE A HIGH TRAFFIC BACK THERE AND HE HAS 20, 30, 40 CARS AND MULTIPLE CARS GO IN AND OUT EVERY DAY.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU.
THERE IS ABOUT 16 CARS IN ONE PICTURE THAT I JUST SAW ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU, PARKING WISE.
SO IF A CUSTOMER COMES TO BUY A CAR WITH TWO CARS AND PARKS IT THERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TRAFFIC JAM.
SO ANYWAY, BUT JUST ASKING FOR THE BACKEND PART OF IT, THE, THE BACKEND PART, EX ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SEPARATE BUILDING BEHIND IT OR WHAT'S S ONE? S ONE.
SO THERE'S A CABINET SHOP, UH, AND ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A, A GYM ON THE BACK END.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR MR. HASKINS IN RESPONSE TO ANY OF THE QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST APOLOGIZE.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS HERE THIS EVENING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL COUNSEL, WELL, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN STRANG HAS A MOTION OR IF COUNCILMAN STR HAS A QUESTION.
SO, COUNCILMAN, I THINK YOU, MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DO.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE ONE WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM AGAINST.
[6. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light Industrial (LI) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LI-SUP) on 5.578 acres to allow for a warehouse use. Property located at 603 Sanden Blvd. (ZC 2025-18). ]
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING.FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON 5.578 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A WAREHOUSE USE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 0 3 SAN BOULEVARD ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 18.
MR. HASKIN, SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS READING THE WRONG ONE, BUT IT'S THE
SO THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY SANDIN.
YOU KNOW, AS, UH, MANY PEOPLE ARE AWARE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SANDINS, UH, UM, DIVESTING A FEW AREA, UH, PRO, UM, PARTS OF THEIR PROPERTY, UM, AND RACK INDUSTRIES HAS COME IN AND THEY WOULD LI OR THEY'RE REQUESTING TO BUILD A, UH, 63,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, NORMALLY THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT OR A WAREHOUSE UP TO 25,000 SQUARE FEET IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITHIN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS, THIS WHOLE AREA IS ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SUP APPROVAL.
UM, RACK INDUSTRIES HAS WENT AHEAD AND DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AHEAD OF TIME AND, UM, PART OF THE SUP REQUEST IS TO HAVE THE SITE PLAN BE REQUESTS, UM, UM, BE PART OF IT.
SO APPROVAL OF THE ZONING WOULD BE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN ALSO, SO THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO, UH, P AND Z FOR, UM, THAT PARTICULAR APPROVAL.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS. UM, YOU'VE GOT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, AND THEN THERE'S ELEVATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
UM, RACK GENERALLY THEIR TENANTS, UM, ARE, UH, PLUMBERS, UM, ELECTRICIANS, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT P AND Z, YOU KNOW, THEY USE LIKE MILESTONE ELECTRIC FOR EXAMPLE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DFW WIDE, BUT THEY MAY HAVE A, A AREA HERE WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME PLUMBERS AND SOME OF THE BASIC MATERIALS THAT THEY WOULD NEED HERE SO THEY CAN RESPOND A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
HVAC COMPANY, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT WAS OPPOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, SPOKE ABOUT LTL TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION AND THAT'S NOT THE TENANTS THAT THEY GO AFTER, UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING AND IT'S NOT REALLY SET UP FOR THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, THE PNZ COMMISSION DID VOTE FOR ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THE DISDAIN, UH, THE, UH, COMMISSIONER THAT WAS AGAINST IT WAS JUST WORRIED ABOUT SAND AND, UM, BEING ABLE TO HANDLE EVEN LIGHT TRUCK TRAFFIC BOX TRUCKS, WHICH IS NORMALLY WHAT RACK INDUSTRY MOSTLY DEALS.
THERE'S A LITTLE 18 WHEEL TRAFFIC BASED ON WHAT THEY DO.
UM, SO THAT WAS THEIR GENERAL CONCERN.
UM, AND JASON GRINER FROM THE EDC DID, UH, SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, BASICALLY DISCUSS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE EDC MAY GET INVOLVED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S
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GOTTA GO THROUGH THE BOARD AND, AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, BUT THEY, UH, MAY BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE HELPING GETTING THE ENGINEERING AT LEAST FOR SAND AND, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WAY IT CAN BE READY TO BE EXPANDED BECAUSE IT IS ON OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CIP, THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, SORRY, UM, FOR IMPROVEMENTS.UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING.
I THINK I'LL START THE SAME WAY.
THAT WAY I, I CAN'T FORGET TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I'M OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND ADDRESS COUNSEL, BUT ASK THAT YOU DO SO, SO AT THIS TIME, OKAY, SO MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK.
SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNSEL, WHAT QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE FOR MR. HASKINS OR FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM? MAYOR, PRETEND THANKS, MAYOR.
CAN WE HAVE THE APPLICANT JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF, UM, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF THE TENANTS AND THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS? YOU MENTIONED VERY LIGHT 18 WHEELERS.
I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HIGH IMPACT TRAFFIC IN TERMS OF BIG BOX TRUCKS AND WHATNOT.
ZACH RASON, 6 1 1 2 MARTEL AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 4.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR, UH, HAVING US.
I'VE BEEN, UH, TRYING TO GET IN AND BUILD THIS PRODUCT AND WILEY FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND, UH, WHEN WE GOT THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WHEN I SAY WE, THIS IS A MOM AND POP SHOP, THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS JUST ME AND MY DAD, AND WE BUILD THESE, WHAT I CALL SMALL SUPER SHALLOW BAY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS FOR THE, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY MODERN INDUSTRIAL AMENITIES FOR THE VERY SMALL USER, AND WE BUILD THEM IN LEWISVILLE AND CORINTH.
WE'VE DONE ONE OUT, UH, IN ALLIANCE CLOSE TO JUSTIN, AND WE THINK IT WOULD GO REALLY WELL, UH, HERE.
SO, UH, I DID SEE, UH, UM, THE, THE, THE TWO COMMENTS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO BE GREAT NEIGHBORS TO, TO EVERYBODY.
WHAT THIS BUILDING IS SPECIFICALLY, AGAIN, IT IS, IT IS GOING TO BE A MODERN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING FOR TENANTS THAT RANGE IN THE 7,000 SQUARE FEET TO 14,000 TO POSSIBLY 20,000 FEET.
BUT IT, AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE A SLIDE IN HERE WHICH SHOWS OUR ELEVATIONS.
AND I'M ACTUALLY INSTALLING FIVE DIFFERENT STOREFRONTS.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE, UH, A, UH, A MIX OF DIFFERENT SUITE SIZES AND KIND OF WHAT WE DO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN, THAN WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO IS I'M GONNA BUILD OUT A, UH, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SPEC SUITES SO THAT I HAVE AN EASY LEASE AND A KEY WHEN I'M DONE AND I GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO, UH, MAINLY IN A 7,000 FOOT SUITE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A 1400 FOOT BEAUTIFUL SPEC OFFICE AND YOU MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT FEELS LIKE 5,500 FEET OF WAREHOUSE.
THAT'S A VERY SMALL INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT.
UH, AGAIN, 14, IF YOU HAD A, A DOUBLE SUITE, 14,000 FEET IN INDUSTRIAL TERMS, VERY SMALL.
THESE ARE NOT TENANTS THAT ARE GETTING OR ARE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
IN FACT, IF, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE WAY WE'VE SET UP THIS BUILDING, IT'S ONLY GOT 115 FOOT TRUCK COURT.
IT'S, IT'S A SMALL LOT FOR, FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE.
UH, A TYPICAL BULK INDUSTRIAL PRODUCT WOULD BE 130 FOOT DEEP TRUCK COURT, AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 55 OR 60 FEET OF TRAILER PARKING.
SO WHAT THIS IS, IS, IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES WITH A DISTRIBUTION CENTER PER SE.
WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR ARE LITERALLY THE GUYS THAT ARE OVER OFF OF STEEL ROAD, UH, NEW HENSLEY AND THAT KIND OF AREA THAT THEY GO FROM.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'LL HAVE A, A, A METAL BUILDING AND THEN, OR THERE'S SOME BRICK AND MORTAR 5,000 SQUARE FOOT GRADE LEVEL BUILDINGS OVER THERE.
AND THEN THE NEXT STEP UP AS THEY GROW THEIR BUSINESS IS WHAT WE'RE OFFERING.
AND THERE'S JUST NONE OF THIS PRODUCT HERE IN TOWN.
UM, AND SO THOSE, UH, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ARE TAKING THEIR BUSINESSES TO YOUR NEIGHBORING, UH, TOWNSHIPS, UH, PLANO OR, OR OR SAXE OR, OR ROCK WALL WHERE THEY CAN GET SOME REAL DOCK HIGH PRODUCT.
AND, UH, AND, AND SO OUR GOAL HERE IS TO GO AFTER, AGAIN, CONTRACTORS, HVACS ELECTRICIANS, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE A MODERN NOW INDUSTRIAL FRONT AND NOT HAVE THE METAL BUILDING THAT THEY'RE GROWING OUT OF, WHICH THEY'RE STORING ALL THEIR THINGS OUTSIDE.
THEY WANT KIND OF THAT, THAT NEXT ELEVATION OF, OF WHAT THAT IS.
WHAT THIS IS NOT IS THE 300,000 FOOT DISTRIBUTION CENTER THAT LOVET BUILT THAT'S OVER AT THE, THE INTERMODAL.
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IT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.UH, A THERE'S A, A TON OF NEW PRODUCT IN, UH, SAXY THAT'S GOING UP RIGHT THERE ON GEORGE BUSH.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS WHAT WE'RE GOING AFTER AND I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE A, A WIN-WIN FOR WILEY.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILEY NEEDS AND, UH, AND IT'LL BRING BACK, UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE LOSING.
TYPICALLY WHEN WE BUILD THESE BUILDINGS, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THIS IS GONNA FILL UP WITH, UH, FOUR OR FIVE MOMS AND DADS THAT LIVE WITHIN A MILE AWAY THAT ARE GOING, OH, MY BUSINESS IS 20 MINUTE DRIVE NOW.
I FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S IN MY BACKYARD THAT I CAN GO MOVE TO.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT DETAILED EXPLANATION.
WHICH LEADS ME TO WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LOVE AND BIG SPACE IN TERMS OF, YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE BUILT THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IN MULTIPLE AREAS.
HAS IT BEEN THIS BIG IN TERMS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BIGGER OR SMALLER OR SIMILAR SIZES? YEAH, SO THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY SMALLER.
I JUST FINISHED ONE IN THE CITY OF CORINTH.
IT IS 66,570 SQUARE FEET FOR ALL INTENDED PURPOSES.
AND, UH, AND WE GOT A EDC AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CORINTH FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS WHY, UH, UH, JASON AND, AND, AND SEEMS LIKE THE WARM RECEPTION WE'VE GOT FROM THE CITY PLANNERS TO BUILD THIS HERE, WHICH IS, UH, THERE'S JUST NONE OF THIS PRODUCT AROUND.
SO, UH, I BUILT THE ONE IN LEWISVILLE THAT WAS 40,000 FEET AND THEN THE ONE THAT WE BUILT IN ALLIANCE WAS 60,000.
SO, AND THEY'RE ALL FULL BASICALLY.
UH, I HAVE ONE VACANCY RIGHT NOW THAT'S 12,000 FEET AND SINCE WE JUST FINISHED THE CORINTH BUILDING, WE'RE GOING THROUGH LEASE UP RIGHT NOW.
I JUST GOT A CO ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, 25% LEASED.
AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS PROCESS OF PUTTING THIS ON THE GROUND AND BUILDING IT UP AND LEASING IT? OH, IF WE, UH, GET APPROVAL TODAY, I'M GONNA RELEASE THE BALANCE OF MY CIVIL, UH, TOMORROW AND, UH, WE WILL BE, UH, SUBMITTING FOR FIRST ROUND CIVIL COMMENTS IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS FROM NOW.
GO THROUGH THAT CIVIL PROCESS, GO THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL, HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BREAKING GROUND IN, UH, JUNE.
IT'LL BE AN EIGHT MONTH BUILD.
AND THEN AT THE END OF IT, UH, AGAIN, I'LL HAVE FOUR OR FIVE SUITES READY TO GO.
THIS IS NOT, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT FOR THE, THE LARGE INDUSTRIAL BASE THAT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PEPSI AND WE NEED 200,000 FEET, AND BY THE WAY, I NEED MY OFFICE TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
HERE'S, I'M GONNA PRE-BUILD A BEAUTIFUL OFFICE AND SAY TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
THIS KIND OF WORKS FOR EVERYBODY IN THE SMALLER SORT OF BROAD TERMS. THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I ACTUALLY, BEFORE I GO TO YOU, COUNCILMAN, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HASKINS.
JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE CONSIDERING THE SITE PLAN AS WELL AS THE ZONING.
DOES THIS ACCOUNT FOR THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF SANDON AS FAR AS DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY AS FAR AS LIKE OTHER AREAS THAT SANDON MAY SELL OFF OR SOMETHING? NO, NO, NO.
GOES FROM TWO TO FOUR LANES YES, SIR.
AS THE CIP CALLS FOR ESSENTIALLY YES.
DOES THE SITE PLAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT? YES, SIR.
I'M NOT A, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO YES, NO, IT DOES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT, BUT I, I DIDN'T, YEAH, THERE'S A HUNDRED FEET, THERE'S A HUNDRED FEET OF RIGHT OF AWAY THERE, WHICH JUST FOR VISUALIZATION SAKE IS THE SAME RIGHT OF WAY THAT BROWN IS RIGHT, RIGHT UP, RIGHT, RIGHT HERE BEFORE OBVIOUSLY ONCE YOU GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WESTGATE, IT KIND OF NARROWS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE FOUR LANES WITH THE MEDIAN IS WHAT SAYING IT COULD BECOME.
DOES, SINCE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS ON SITE PLANS, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW.
THEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION AFTER SOMEBODY BUILDS SOMETHING.
UM, WE'VE DONE THAT BOTH WAYS BEFORE WITH STREETS, SO YES, SIR.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ON THAT.
AND THEN, UH, I'LL, I'LL ACTUALLY LET YOU GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN.
I THINK, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS IS THAT I HAD ON THIS, UH, THE 24 BAYS ACROSS THERE THROUGH ME.
I WASN'T REAL SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING.
UH, BASED ON WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, UM, THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR OR AN HVAC OR PLUMBING OR SOME SORT OF, UH, COMPANY THAT DOES THEIR WORK OUTSIDE OF THIS BUSINESS TO HANDLE LOGISTICS AND MATERIAL MOVEMENT FOR THE OPERATION OF THEIR BUSINESS.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND, UM, THE, THE NUMBER OF BAYS IS THAT INDICATIVE OF THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT YOU'D HAVE THERE? EACH BUSINESS WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BAYS TO BE WORKING FROM? UH, I THINK WHAT WE'LL ULTIMATELY END UP DOING AND UH, IS PROBABLY WE'LL HAVE A MIX OF, WE MIGHT HAVE TWO OR THREE SINGLE BAYS, WHICH IN THIS INSTANCE IS PROBABLY GONNA END UP BEING 50 FEET WIDE BY 135
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FEET DEEP.SO LET'S CALL THAT SIXTY SEVEN FIFTY, UH, PER BAY.
WE MIGHT HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE.
I MIGHT HAVE TWO BAYS THAT ARE DOUBLE BAYS, UH, AND THEN MAYBE ONE TRIPLE, WHICH MIGHT BE A, SO LET'S JUST SAY FOR ALL INTENDED PURPOSES, I HAVE A 22 FOURTEENS AND TWO SEVENS OR TWO THREES.
BUT, UH, IT'S ALL GONNA BE SMALL.
I THINK YOU WERE, WERE YOU REFERRING TO THE NUMBER OF DOORS? I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE DOCK BAYS ELEVATION? YEAH.
THE NUMBER ON THE BACK, THE DOCK HIDE DOORS.
THE, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MORE A QUESTION OF THE NUMBER OF DOCK DOORS FOR FIVE TENANTS.
SO, UH, ALSO GREAT QUESTION, AND I KNOW THAT THAT GOT BROUGHT UP BY OUR NEIGHBOR MM-HMM
AND I, I GUESS IF WHEN TO THE, TO THE UNTRAINED INDUSTRIAL EYE, YOU MIGHT SEE ALL THESE DOCKS AND GO, WELL WHAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY GONNA GO HERE? MM-HMM
AND THE, THE, THE QUICK ANSWER IS, IS THAT, LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I'M GONNA PUT IN 20 DOCS HERE AND, UH, AND THOSE 20 DOCS, LET'S SAY ARE GONNA COST A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO THAT.
NOW I COULD, I KNOW I'M NOT GONNA USE ALL THESE DOCS, SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE, WE PROBABLY ONLY USE 12 OR 13 DOCS.
HOWEVER, IF I GO PUT IN, IF I TRY TO PICK AND GUESS WHERE THESE FUTURE COMPANIES THAT, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SETUP'S GONNA BE, AND THEY MAY COME IN ON AN END CAP SUITE AND THEY MAY SAY, HEY, THIS END CAP SUITE, I'VE GOT, UH, THREE DOCKS HERE, BUT I REALLY ONLY NEED THE RIGHT SIDE DOCK.
OR I REALLY ONLY NEED THE LEFT SIDE DOCK.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GUESS WHICH ONE THEY HAVE.
BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE AN EASY LEASE AND A KEY AND A MOVE IN READY SUITE SO I CAN GO BUY 20 DOCK DOORS FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR I COULD PUT IN KNOCKOUTS, PAY SOMEBODY TO HAVE TO REMOVE THAT CONCRETE WHEN THOSE GUYS ARE READY TO MOVE IN, IT COST ME A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEN BUY THEM ONE OR TWO AT A TIME.
AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M PAYING $8,000 FOR A DOCK OR, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE ECONOMIES, IT'S KIND OF A WASH MM-HMM
AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE IT READY TO GO SINCE IT'S GONNA COST ME THE SAME AMOUNT.
AND IT'S JUST KINDA LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF I GO INTO LEASE ANYTHING, IF ALL OF IT LOOKS GOOD EXCEPT THERE'S THIS ONE AREA THAT MAY NOT BE DONE, I'M GONNA LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY.
SO JUST FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, I THINK IT WORKS OUT WELL, BUT GUARANTEE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ALL THESE DOCS IN GETTING.
UH, YOU'VE PRETTY WELL DESCRIBED MY SITUATION IN MY LATE TWENTIES AND EARLY THIRTIES WHEN I OWNED MY OWN TELECOMMUNICATIONS BUSINESS WHERE WE HAD FIVE CREWS THAT WERE RUNNING UP TO OKLAHOMA TO DO THE INSTALLATION JOBS AND WE OPERATED OUT A LITTLE SMALL WAREHOUSE OFFICE AREA AND WE OUTGREW IT.
WE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING A PLACE TO GO WHERE WE COULD CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS IN A LITTLE BIT LARGER SCALE.
AND IT'S, IF THIS WAS AVAILABLE TO ME, THEN WE WOULD'VE BID ON THIS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION BECAUSE IT REALLY CLEARED THE, THE AIR TO ME ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS NOW THAT I'LL FINISH UP WITH MR. HASKINS.
SO OBVIOUSLY EVEN THOUGH THE COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE THEM THAT THIS IS NOT A SEMI-TRUCK HEAVY TRAFFIC LOCATION.
WE DON'T ALLOW THOSE TO BE PARKED ON OUR STREETS ANYWAY.
IS THAT CORRECT, MR. PARKER? THEY CAN'T BE STANDING AND IDLING ON CITY STREETS BLOCKING TRAFFIC, TOMMY FOR EXTENDED PERIODS.
I WOULD ASK, AND I'M ONLY ASKING BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS POINTED OUT BY ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE, UH, WITH THEIR QUESTIONS, STATE YOUR NAME AND AFTER
WE, UM, WE DO NOT ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING.
YOU CAN'T RESTRICT LIKE THE, THE TEMPORARY.
SO AS LONG AS THEY PUT THEIR TRIANGLES OUT AND THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING TOO MUCH OF THE ROADWAY, THEN THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO.
BUT THEY ARE LIMITED IN TIME AND WE DO, UH, A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO GET THEM MOVED BECAUSE THEY DO BLOCK UP SO MUCH ROADWAY.
AND THAT WOULD BE, I, I ASSUME IF FOR ANY REASON THERE WAS A PROBLEM, WE CAN ALWAYS ADDRESS THAT AS WE'VE DONE WITH SCHOOL PARKING ISSUES AND OTHER THINGS AROUND TOWN.
I MEAN, COUNCIL HAS FULL AUTHORITY TO, WE CAN PUT NO PARKING SIGNS UP ON ONE SIDE OF SAND OR THE OTHER, UM, THROUGH A CITY ORDINANCE IF WE HAD TO.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT ARISES, WE CAN, CAN, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BEYOND CAN WE CAN ADDRESS IT.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION, UM, THAT I HAD FOR YOU ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY HERE WAS OBVIOUSLY SANDIN HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY AND HAS, I'LL JUST CALL 'EM SOME UNIQUE TAX SITUATIONS AND ALL
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SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT DOES NOT APPLY ANY LONGER WHEN IT SELLS.IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY UNIQUE TAX SITUATIONS? I'M, I'M THAT JASON GRINDER MIGHT KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE SOME, NO, IT DOES.
I ASSUMED THAT, BUT I WANTED TO CHECK.
SO AS A PLANNER, I TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE FINANCIAL
I APPRECIATE MR. PARKER KNOWING THAT ONE.
SO, UM, THERE, THERE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT NUANCES THERE AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT TO EXPECT THERE.
THANK YOU THAT THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, SO, ALRIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE? AND IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
COUNCILMAN PICKENS? UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNT? COUNCILMAN HOOVER? I SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR COMING AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS FOR US THIS EVENING.
UH, WITH THAT, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE WAITING FOR A WHILE, BUT I AM GOING TO TAKE A QUICK FIVE MINUTE BREAK, UH, AND WE WILL PICK BACK UP IN JUST A FEW.
WITH THAT, I'LL CALL US BACK INTO SESSION.
WE ARE STILL IN OUR REGULAR AGENDA
[7. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2022-51 (PD 2022-51) to Commercial Corridor - Special Use Permit (CC-SUP) on 2.02 acres to allow for a landscaping contractor’s maintenance yard. Property located at 703 N. Highway 78 (ZC 2025-14). ]
ON ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2022 DASH FIVE ONE PD 2022 DASH FIVE ONE TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, C-C-S-U-P ON 2.02 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A LANDSCAPING CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 0 3 NORTH HIGHWAY 78, ZONING CASE 2025 DASH 14.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, THIS IS MY LAST ONE FOR THE EVENING.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT, THIS, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR AREA WAS UNDER A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A DISTILLERY AND EVENT CENTER.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, KIND OF RESTRICTED THE USES TO THAT.
UM, SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR IS TO GO DO STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ZONING, BUT ALSO ALLOW AN SUP FOR A, A LANDSCAPING CONTRACTOR'S, UH, MAINTENANCE YARD.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS HAD A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
UM, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY THERE, YOU NOTICE IT'S, IT'S LIKE ALREADY UP AND RUNNING.
UM, AND THAT WAS BASICALLY, UH, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THINGS.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS OLDER.
UM, IT'S 1994, THEY STILL WANTED TO MAKE USE OF THAT AREA.
UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S BACK A LITTLE WAYS, UM, OFF OF, UH, 78.
UM, BUT YET TRAFFIC FROM THIS PARTICULAR KIND OF USE WOULD STILL HAVE TO TRAVEL THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH.
UM, WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST IDEA WAS TO HAVE A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, UM, BECAUSE ALL THEY'RE DOING IS PUTTING UP SOME FENCING AND HAVING SOME TRUCKS AND STUFF THERE BECAUSE THEIR MAIN FACILITY IS STILL OUT OF TOWN.
UM, JUST TO SEE WHETHER THIS IS A, A VIABLE SOLUTION OR NOT.
UM, AND WITH THAT THOUGH, WE, WE GAVE THEM UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY SO THEY COULD GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO GET FINAL, UM, A, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION FROM P AND Z AND, UH, FROM, UH, AN ULTIMATE DECISION FROM COUNSEL.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE ON THE, THE, UH, THE ZONING EXHIBIT, THIS IS JUST AN EXHIBIT.
A SITE PLAN WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE DONE IF THIS, UM, SITE PLAN OR IF THIS, UH, UH, ZONING CASE WHERE CRUSH WAS APPROVED.
UM, THERE'S THREE AREAS, UM, THEY'RE USING TWO OF THESE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY FENCING IN, UM, VEHICLES AND, AND SOME EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THEY'RE NOT USING, UM, AND THEY HOPE TO ACTUALLY LEASE THAT OUT TO SOME KIND OF USER, UM, IN THE FUTURE, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH ANYTHING WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL CO OF ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS.
UM, WE DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO 25 PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY RESPONSES IN EITHER DIRECTION.
UM, THE, UM, P AND Z COMMISSION, UM, DID ASK ABOUT WHETHER STAFF HAD RECEIVED ANY INPUT FROM ANYBODY, UH, NEIGHBORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE SAID AT THAT TIME WE HADN'T.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY THEY VOTED FIVE ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING, UM, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I AM ALSO OBVIOUSLY AVAILABLE.
I WILL START US OUT WITH A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
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OKAY, MS. STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.SO I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COUNCILMAN ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE ON, UH, THIS ITEM.
ONE OF MY LARGEST CONCERNS WITH THIS IS HOW CLOSE THE SINGLE TRUE EXIT IS TO THE LIGHT AT 78 AND BROWN.
78 AND BROWN IS THE WORST INTERSECTION A LOT OF TIMES FOR STACKING RIGHT NOW IN TOWN.
UM, AND THAT MAKES IT, THERE'S NO LEFT TURN IN AND THERE'S ONLY A RIGHT TURN OUT.
AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME WELL NOT GO, I I WON'T EVEN SAY ASSUME BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE UNFAIR.
I'VE BEEN OVER THERE AND SEEN, AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE LARGE TRUCK, THEY HAVE LARGE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I'M SAYING SEMIS YES SIR, SIR.
BUT THEY DO HAUL TRAILERS WITH BOBCATS AND DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT ON THEM.
MY CONCERN IS THAT INTERSECTION IS ALREADY TERRIBLE, FRANKLY.
AND I THINK YOU COULD, I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN COMMENTS ONLINE IF YOU'VE BEEN ONLINE AT ALL, BUT IT IS A VERY TOUGH INTERSECTION.
I KNOW TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE MYSELF CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES IF TRAFFIC IS BUSY IN JUST A PASSENGER VEHICLE, LET ALONE WITH A TRAILER.
UM, I ALSO, FRANKLY, AM AM CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING CONTRACTOR MAINTENANCE AT THE VERY END PAST A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
UH, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, THERE ARE I THINK THREE OR FOUR RESTAURANTS TOTAL IN THERE.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE CUTTING ACROSS, YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU HAVE, UH, IT'S A BEAUTY STORE.
THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE OTHER USES THERE.
AND SOME OF THOSE ARE HEAVILY UTILIZED DURING THE DAY.
SOME OF THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE NOT OPEN, UH, IN THE EVENINGS OR LIMITED HOURS.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THOSE ARE LARGE VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
UH, AND I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT A BUDDING, UH, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE.
UH, AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN WHAT TRAFFIC WILL HAPPEN.
'CAUSE THERE'S, I GUESS, AN UNOFFICIAL CUT THROUGH AND APARTMENTS THAT HAVE NO ONE LIVING IN THEM YET.
AND THAT'S GOING TO ADD A LOT OF ADDITIONAL VEHICLES IN THOSE APARTMENTS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY FILL UP.
UM, AND SO THOSE, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, UH, THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
WE STAFF EXPRESSED THOSE PRETTY MUCH VERBATIM, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE TELLING THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH TRAILERS, UM, IF YOUR FOLKS ARE GOING SOUTH ON 78, THEY'VE GOT A WIDE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO A MILE OUTTA THEIR WAY TO TO, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT AND GO RIGHT, GO RIGHT AGAIN ON BROWN AND, YOU KNOW, GET DOWN TO EUBANKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND COME AROUND.
THERE WAS ALMOST NO WAY TO GET, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ACROSS IN A SINGLE VEHICLE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTERPLAYS WITH BROWN DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO VEHICLES WITH THE ESSENTIALLY BLIND HILL ENTRANCE.
AND, UH, THAT PREDATES PROBABLY ALL OF US SITTING UP HERE IN ALL OF OUR POSITIONS, INCLUDING YOURSELF, BUT PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT OF THAT ON THE BACKSIDE OF A HILL EVEN.
AND THAT'S, IF YOU'RE DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT, YOU'RE GOING 30.
UH, AND, AND EUBANKS IS ON THE CIP, UH, BUT IT IS A NARROW, I'LL CALL IT MODERATE CONDITION ROAD.
IT'S NOT TERRIBLE, BUT YES, SIR.
UM, UH, AND, AND EUBANKS IN 78 HAS ALREADY HAD MANY, MANY ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AT IT AND HAS THE WATER TRUCK TRAFFIC, UH, WITH TRUE SEMI TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THERE.
I HAVE, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND, AND OBVIOUSLY FROM WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROPOSING A MORE INTENSIVE USAGE WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT, PLUS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER COMMERCIAL USER BECAUSE, UH, THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP IS NOT UTILIZING THAT BUILDING FOR ANYTHING.
BUT THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, MAYOR PRO TEM.
WELL, I LIVE THROUGH IT EVERY DAY, MAYBE A COUPLE TIMES A DAY THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT AND THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO, UM, I, I KNOW THAT AREA PRETTY WELL.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE BUILDING, THE WAY THEY HAVE FENCED IT AND DISGUISED THE PARKING OF THE CARS DURING THE DAY.
UM, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITHOUT ANYTHING IN THERE.
UM, THE WAY THAT THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED AND HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN THERE FOR,
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FOR I BELIEVE IS 1960, SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS, THE WAY IT IS THE ROAD RIGHT NOW ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHERE MY RESTAURANT IS, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE LAUNDRY AND THE AUTO SHOP IS, WE HAVE POTHOLES AND WE HAVE HOLES AND WE HAVE A REBAR COMING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT ON THE BACK END.THERE WAS REBARS AND, AND PARKING LOT COMING IN.
IT, IT'S SO MUCH TO DO WITH THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEMI OR OR TRAILERS THAT ARE BEING PUSHED OR CAR OR TRUCKS THAT ARE PUSHING THEIR EQUIPMENT WITH THEM AND THEY PARK HORIZONTALLY, UH, ON A SENSE OF THE WORD, AND THEY TAKE HALF OF THE PARKING LOT.
IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO RUN A BUSINESS IN THAT AREA IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WITH THAT TYPE OF USE ON THE BACKEND.
AND IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR A TRAFFIC USER, UM, OR, OR SOMEONE DRIVING WITH A CAR BETWEEN THEM COMING OUT AND THEN COMING IN WITH 78, 78 AND BROWN.
THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT IS BUSY AT ALL TIMES.
YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE AUTO SHOP TO COME OUT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GO UP NORTH BROWN, YOU HAVE TO COME AND MAKE A U-TURN AT THE GAS STATION, THEN COME OUT FOR ME.
I, WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THEIR BUSINESS AND WANTING TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS HERE IN WILEY, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT LOCATION IS THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THEM.
AND FROM VERY LITTLE THAT I'VE SEEN SINCE Y'ALL CITY DECIDED TO GIVE THEM A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO BE, TO SEE WHAT IT IS, IT'S BECOME A NIGHTMARE NOT ONLY FOR EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED WITH THE RESTAURANT, N AS MAYOR MENTIONED, WE HAVE KIDS AND YOU KNOW, EVEN THE HANDICAPPED SPACES, THE WAY THEY'RE DESIGNED, THEY'RE ACROSS FROM THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BE NEXT TO THE RAMP.
SO THE HANDICAPPED PERSON HAS TO COME OUT OF THE CAR AND THEN COME THROUGH THE RAMP INSTEAD OF PARKING IT NEXT TO IT.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR EVEN A HANDICAP PERSON.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN, HOPEFULLY NEVER HAPPENS ANYTHING.
BUT WITH THAT TYPE OF USAGE ON THE BACK END, IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE.
SO I, I, I HAVE REALLY LARGE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT AND EVERYBODY ELSE WANTING THEIR BUSINESS HERE.
OKAY, COUNSEL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN PICKENS? UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.
UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST MIRROR YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL.
I, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT GINO HAS, HAS SAID.
UH, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXISTING TENANTS AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA ENDURE, UH, WITH THIS COMING IN.
UH, I FREQUENT THAT AREA REGULARLY.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH HIM ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE, THE ROAD AND THE PARKWAY.
I HAVE TO KIND OF STEER MY TRUCK IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO AVOID THE OBSTACLES THAT ARE STICKING OUT THROUGH THE CONCRETE AND, AND, UH, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, UH, A VIABLE SITUATION FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
CAN YOU GIMME JUST ONE SECOND? YES.
THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF HE CAN.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, I KNOW COUNCILMAN STRING HAS SOME QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW, WOULD YOU, OKAY.
I WAS TRYING TO, TRYING TO LET YOU HEAR ALL THE FEEDBACK SO THAT YOU COULD YEAH.
COME FORWARD AND RESPOND TO, TO IT.
IF YOU'LL STATE NAME AND ADDRESS AND IT CAN BE BUSINESS ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US AND SURE.
UH, 4 0 0 7 TRAVIS STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.
THAT'S, UH, MY PERSONAL ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR HAVING US.
UH, IT'S NOT GOING AS WELL AS I THOUGHT, UH, ALREADY BY THE TIME I GOT UP HERE, BUT JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY.
I REPRESENT BOTH THE OWNERSHIP OF THE BUSINESS, THE APPLICANT, THE LANDSCAPING BUSINESS, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO WE'VE HAD THIS PROPERTY ON THE MARKET FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
UH, IT'S BEEN 10 MONTHS OR SO.
SIX MONTHS INTO THAT 10 MONTHS, WE, UH, LOOKED UP AND SAID, HEY, WE'VE GOT A LANDSCAPING BUSINESS THAT RUNS QUITE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE WILEY AREA.
WHY DON'T WE UTILIZE THE SPACE THAT WAY? UM, IF WE WERE SMARTER, WE THOUGHT WOULD'VE THOUGHT OF IT SIX MONTHS EARLIER.
SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.
UM, FOR US IT SAVES DRIVE TIME.
PRIMARILY, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE WILEY JUNIOR HIGH AND INTERMEDIATE PROJECT IN THE AREA AND A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, UH, IN AND AROUND WILEY.
UM, FROM THE TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, I TELL YOU, WE'RE ALWAYS OFF PEAK, SO I GET IT.
BUT IN THE SUMMER WE'RE GETTING THERE AT FIVE 30, WE'RE OUT BY SIX IN THE WINTER, WE'RE LEAVING LATEST SEVEN O'CLOCK AND WE'RE GETTING BACK BETWEEN THREE 30 AND FOUR.
THAT'S OFF PEAK TRAFFIC, THAT'S OFF PEAK FOR RETAIL.
I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE CONCERN.
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UM, BUT WE DO WHAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS THAT RELATIVE TO WHEN WE'RE COMING IN, WHEN WE'RE COMING OUT, OUR GUYS ARE LEAVING OFF 78 AND WHEN THEY'RE COMING BACK, THEY'RE COMING ON COMING BACK THROUGH MARBLE.TO THE EXTENT THAT UH, ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS, DO I REALLY NEED ALL THREE OF THOSE FENCED AREAS? NOT REALLY.
WE'RE RUNNING FIVE OR SIX CREWS, SO THAT'S FIVE OR SIX F TWO FIFTIES WITH TRAILERS.
MOST OF THE TIME THE SKID STEERERS ARE STAYING ON JOB SITES.
SO THOSE ARE NOT TRAILERED MOST OF THE TIME COMING BACK.
UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I WANNA ADDRESS.
I THINK JUST FROM A, I GET WE'RE WE'RE PURSUING AN SUP FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE, THE PROPERTY'S REALLY CHALLENGING, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A BURIED IN A RETAIL STRIP.
UM, THERE'S NOT A TON OF VISIBILITY.
SO WHAT COULD GO THERE? I KNOW STAFF HAS EXPRESSED THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF, UH, DESTINATION.
I'M NOT, WELL, I'LL I'LL SAY THIS.
IN THE EIGHT OR 10 MONTHS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THE MARKET, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED INTEREST FROM ANYBODY INTERESTED IN THE USE LIKE THAT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MAYOR PRO TEM.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND, AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, THOUGHT PROCESS IN GETTING UP HERE AND SPEAKING.
DO YOU INTEND TO USE THIS? ARE YOU INTENDING TO USE A TWO? ARE YOU REQUESTING CHANGING AN SUP FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME? AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU HAVE THIS BUILDING STILL ON THE MARKET, EVEN NECESSARILY WE SIT TODAY.
UM, ARE YOU ASKING FOR A TEMPORARY, UH, PART OF IT? I'LL USE IT FOR AS LONG AS YOU GUYS LET ME USE IT.
SO IF I COULD GET, IF YOU DENY THE SUP, I'LL ASK FOR A TUP, BUT I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MORE SPECIFICALLY, YEAH, WE WOULD TAKE A LIMITED DO YOU WANNA ACTING LIKE YOU WANNA TALK, BUT WE WOULD TAKE A LIMITED SUP BECAUSE IF I'M CORRECT, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS IN WILEY FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE LARGER BUSINESSES YEAH.
SO I'M ASSUMING THE TRAFFIC JAM IS NOT GONNA BE AS HARD ONCE YOUR CREW IS NOT WORKING IN LEY PROJECTS 12 TO 14 MONTHS FROM NOW.
'CAUSE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW A HEAVY CONCENTRATION OF PROJECTS IN THIS AREA.
TWO YEARS FROM NOW, ARE WE GONNA, OUR PROJECTS TYPICALLY RUN SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, SO THEY'RE LONGER PROJECTS.
AND THEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, DO WE STILL HAVE A HEAVY CONCENTRATION LEY? I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, ARE YOU PLANNING ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN AND AROUND THE BUILDING IN TERMS OF THE FRONT PARKING, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE IS DRAINAGE ISSUES YEAH.
EVEN WHERE YOU PARK IN THE VEHICLES RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU HAVE DISGUISED IT, YOU KNOW, A BIG RAIN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN YET, BUT I HAVE.
UM, I MEAN THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY LIMITED SITE PLAN.
WE'RE HOPING TO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS.
ALL THIS ADDRESSES IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA FENCE IT.
BUT ABSOLUTELY, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA SEE, WE'D DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S A FUNCTION OF COST, RIGHT.
TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY IF YOU'RE GONNA GIMME A TEMPORARY.
AND I JUST WANNA WALK YOU BACK ONE, ONE POINT 'CAUSE SINCE, SINCE YOU'RE REPRESENTING BOTH WHILE I'VE BEEN SITTING IN THIS COUNCIL AND I THINK WHILE THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CURRENT OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY AND WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DESTINATION FOR MM-HMM
COUNCIL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF WILEY HAVE SPENT NUMEROUS HOURS AND TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THAT A DESTINATION.
SO WE HAVE PUT IN OUR TIME AND OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE THAT PART A BIGGER PROJECT THAN, AND A DESTINATION FOR WILEY AND WHAT WILEY WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR AND INSINUATING THAT WE, WE NEED IN WILEY.
SO WE'VE PUT IN OUR TIME AND OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE THAT DESTINATION HAPPEN NOW FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER AND WHY IT DIDN'T WORK THAT LEAVE THAT TO THE OWNERS.
BUT I THINK FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT AND FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE'VE PUT IN OUR TIME AND OUR DOLLARS BEHIND THAT PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AS WELL.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE CITY'S TIME, YOUR TIME, UM, ET CETERA.
ALL I'M SPEAKING TO WHEN I ADDRESS THAT RELATIVE TO INTEREST IS WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED GOING THROUGH OUR MARKETING PROCESS.
I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING FORWARD AND GIVING THE ANSWERS.
I I WILL SAY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME, THE ANSWER THAT YOU'RE COMING BACK ON MARBLE DOESN'T HELP.
UM, THAT IS, THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT HAS THREE, FOUR STORY APARTMENT THAT HASN'T OPENED THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OUT AND ABOUT THAT AREA DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS, UNFORTUNATELY.
UH, IT'S STILL JUST KIND OF THE BAR DITCH
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IS THE WAY THAT THAT'S SET UP.SO THERE'S NO WAY TO, UH, TO CHANGE THAT.
AND, AND SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, THAT CONCERN JUST ISN'T A DELAYED FOR ME.
UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF EXPLAINING SOME OF THE PEAK TIMES AND OFF PEAK TIMES FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF IT CUTTING IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
DO YOU MIND IF I ASK YOU A QUESTION OR, SURE.
COUNSEL THE QUESTION, WOULD YOU BE OPEN, AND MAYBE I'M DOING THIS OUTTA ORDER, BUT WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING A SHORTER TERM SUP LIKE LIMITED TO A YEAR AND MIGHT SCALE BACK SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE SUGGESTING? I DON'T, MR. HASKINS, I'M GONNA, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LEGALLY SET A, AN EXPIRATION DATE ON AN SUP TO BEGIN WITH.
WHAT WE HAVE IN THE, IN THE SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS IS JUST THAT IF IT'S NOT A LANDSCAPING, LIKE IF THEY MOVE OUT, THEN IT REVERTS TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
WE CAN'T DO THAT UNFORTUNATELY.
AND, AND, UM, I KNOW THAT MIGHT WORK FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE NEW JOBS AT THAT POINT AND NOT NEED TO HAVE THE SUB LOCATION OR HOWEVER YOU'D REFER TO IT HERE IN WILEY.
UM, BUT COUNCILMAN STRING'S BEEN VERY PATIENT.
THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, SO THIS PARKING LOT'S A MESS KINDA LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN CARPET BOMBED BY THE US AIR FORCE.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING THAT THING UP AND FIXING IT AND REMOVING THOSE SAFETY HA HAZARDS AND WHY HAS IT BEEN IN SUCH A STATED DECAY PROPERTY SO LONG THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR, AND THERE'S A MIX OF PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE, THE CAD.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT THERE.
FOUR OF THEM, THERE'S FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS.
SOUNDS LIKE THEY NEED TO FIX UP THEIR STUFF.
YEAH, WE CAN SAYING, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS, BUT ONE OTHER THING I BELIEVE, UM, WHETHER CITY STAFF, I'M NOT SURE WHICH DEPARTMENT, UM, BUT WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT IS, UM, IF IT'S, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN THE FIRE LANE, UM, THEN IT BECOMES A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION WITH THAT.
I KNOW YOU GOT REBARS STICKING OUT, IT'S ALSO JUST A TRIPPING HAZARD NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES THERE AS WELL.
YOU EVER SEE ONE GO THROUGH SOMEBODY'S ANKLE? IT'S CHARMING.
OKAY, COUNSEL, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD BACK FROM THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.
UH, AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION.
MAYOR, I'M READY FOR A MOTION.
A MOTION TO DENY THE PRO THE, UH, ITEM AS PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? COUNCILMAN DUKE? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO DENY THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
UH, COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
AND THE MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO AND IT IS DENIED.
[8. Consider, and act upon, Resolution No. 2026-01(R) establishing a public newspaper of general circulation to be the “Official Newspaper” for the City of Wylie. ]
WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AN ACT UPON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026 DASH ZERO ONE R, ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION TO BE THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE CITY OF WILEY.MS. STORM? YES, MAYOR, THE COUNCIL HAS TO DESIGNATE, UM, AN OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE CITY ANNUALLY.
AND SO BEFORE YOU AND THE PACKET IS THE PRICING, UM, UM, AND THE UPDATED PUBLICATION NUMBERS FOR THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND THE WILEY NEWS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, I WILL ASK THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, THIS IS A SPECIFIC MOTION TO BE READ, UH, SELECTING WHICH NEWSPAPER OF CIRCULATION FOR THIS CITY.
COUNSEL, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE INFORMATION LOCATED WITHIN.
UM, IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS, THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FOLLOW MS. STORMS IN MAKING YOUR MOTION.
UH, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THE PRICING BETWEEN WILEY NEWS AND, AND DALLAS NEWS, UH, WAS WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE CITY AS FAR AS TOTAL COST BETWEEN THE TWO PAPERS COMPARING, YOU KNOW, WILEY TO DALLAS? IS THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS LIKE THAT? NO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
IT, AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PRICE OUT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF ADS OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF NUM OR DIFFERENT AMOUNTS.
AND THEN, UM, WHETHER IT'S A FULL PAGE OR, UH, IN THE, UM, CLASSIFIEDS AND IT'S DIFFERENT PRICING.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO GET THE COM ACTUAL COMPARISON.
UH, JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT, IT, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE DALLAS
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NEWS ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE TO, TO DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO THROUGH THAT NOTIFICATIONS THAN WHAT THE WILEY PAPER IS.BUT THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ME LOOKING AT THE BASE NUMBERS AND NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING CALCULATIONS TO IT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, NOT SEEING ANY, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN, I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2 0 6, I'M SORRY, 2 0 2 6 DASH ZERO ONE R SAYING THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE CITY OF WILEY.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED TO ESTABLISH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER, THE CITY OF WILEY.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN STRAIN.
SO WITH THAT BEING STATED, UH, MOTION AS STATED IS TO ESTABLISH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER COUNCIL.
THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO TWO WITH MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN PICKENS AGAINST APOLOGIES.
MAYOR PROTO, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DID PRESS NO, BUT MIGHT HAVE MADE A MISTAKE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOES.
SO SINCE YOU HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST, I APOLOGIZE AS YOU'RE ON THE WINNING SIDE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT SINCE YOU'RE STATING THERE WAS AN ERROR IN INTENTION THERE, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE PARLIAMENTARY CORRECT? IT HAS TO BE FROM SOMEONE ON THE WINNING SIDE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I BELIEVE IT'S SOMEONE ON THE WHO VOTED AGAINST IT.
SORRY, WE'VE NOT ENCOUNTERED THAT, BUT SINCE IT WAS IMMEDIATE, I WILL, WELL, I ALLOW US TO LOOK, LET HER LOOK UP THE PARLIAMENTARY THING SIDE ON THIS.
I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON, ON ALL OF THE CORRECT WAYS TO APPROACH THE CERTAIN MOTIONS.
SO, MS. STORM, UH, I GOOGLED REAL QUICK AND WHAT I'M SEEING IS IT'S A MEMBER WHO VOTED WITH THE PREVAILING SIDE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE FINDING AS WELL? DOING A QUICK GOOGLE.
UM, IF I CAN GO GRAB THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER BOOK REALLY QUICK JUST TO VERIFY.
CAN YOU GIMME A SECOND? LET ME, LET ME GIVE US, UH, WE WILL, WE WILL MOVE INTO RECESS FOR JUST A MINUTE TO LET HER, TO LET MS. STORM GO AND VERIFY THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE ON THAT.
WITH THAT, I'LL CALL, I'LL MOVE US BACK INTO ORDER.
BUT I MISS, I BELIEVE MS. STORM HAS AN ANSWER FOR US.
SO, UM, IT DOES SAY THAT, UM, IT IS SOMEONE THAT MAKES THE PREVAILING, UM, SORRY, NOW I LOST MY SPOT AGAIN.
BUT IT WAS THE, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER CAN BE MADE ONLY BY A MEMBER WHO VOTED WITH THE PREVAILING SIDE.
IN OTHER WORDS, A RECONSIDERATION CAN BE MOVED ONLY BY ONE WHO VOTED.
AYE IF THE MOTION INVOLVED WAS ADOPTED OR NO, IF THE MOTION WAS LOST.
UM, AND SO WHOEVER VOTED I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND THEN THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SECONDED TO RECONSIDER.
UM, AND THEN DEBATED AND THEN VOTED ON.
AND THEN IF THAT MOTION IS PASSED, THEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS BROUGHT BACK AND REVOLTED ON.
SO YOU'RE GONNA TAKE A MOTION.
SO FIRST WE VOTE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL RECONSIDER IT.
SO MAYOR PRO TEM, IS THAT THE MOTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? YES, SIR.
I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I WOULD BE OPEN TO SECONDING THAT.
I BELIEVE IT'S ANYONE CAN SECOND IT.
UH, SINCE YOU'RE STATING YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOU, THERE WAS AN ERROR PUSHING WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE.
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HAVE DEBATE ON THE TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE TO ACTUALLY CARRYING IT OUT.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON RECONSIDERATION OF THE MOTION? OKAY.
WELL, IF THERE'S NO, NO THOUGHTS, THAT'S ALL THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
SO THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO BE ABLE TO RECONSIDER, UH, COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST A VOTE YES.
AS TO OPEN DEBATE AND RECONSIDER A VOTE NO, OBVIOUSLY IS OPPOSITE.
SO COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER CARRIE'S FIVE TO ONE.
AND WITH THAT, THAT REOPENS US TO DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM.
IS THAT CORRECT, MS. STORM? MM-HMM
SO WHAT I'LL ASK IS, OBVIOUSLY WITH AT CURRENT STANCE, THE MAYOR PRO TEM STATED HE VOTED OPPOSITE OF HOW HE INTENDED.
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS THAT WOULD LEAVE US PRETTY WELL SPLIT.
UH, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME DISCUSSION ON WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE ON, UH, OUR PO THE POSITIONS WE'RE TAKING ON THE DIFFERENT CHOICES IN FRONT OF US.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF GIVE THEIR STATEMENT THERE.
WELL, SINCE I FLIP FLOPPED, I'LL GO FIRST.
UM, MY INTENT WAS NOT, UH, MY INTENT WAS TO VOTE AGAINST PURELY BECAUSE WILDLY NEWS HAS MORE ACTIVITY AROUND OUR CITY THAN DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
AND FOR THAT REASON, THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN REACH, THE BETTER IT IS.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'LL LEAVE IT AT.
MY, MY ONLY GOAL IS TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN WHEN WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
COUNCILMAN DUKE? THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
MY LOGIC AND THANKING WAS THAT THE WILEY NEWS, ONE OF THEIR GREAT LOCAL NEWS COMPANY HERE IN WILEY, THE SERVICE TO WILEY AREA, THEY HAVE, UH, I GUESS, UH, THE REPORTING ON COUNCIL AND CITY ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY BIASED OR JADED.
AND, UM, I'M, I JUST, UH, DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS RIGHT.
REPORTING, SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION LIKE I DID.
COUNCILMAN PICKENS? UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UM, MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS PURELY FINANCIAL.
JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WILEY NEWS WOULD BE A, A BETTER VALUE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
DALLAS MORNING NEWS, UH, LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE, SO I WAS JUST THINKING OF, UH, SAVING THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY ON MY VOTE.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN? OKAY, SO MS. STORM, DO WE TAKE UP THE SAME MOTION AS ORIGINAL? WOULD THAT BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT? OR, SINCE WE'VE RECONSIDERED OPEN, SHOULD I JUST OPEN THE FLOOR? I KNOW WE DON'T, DON'T, 'CAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T FOLLOW IT.
WE'RE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, SO THIS IS IF PASSED.
SO IF, IF THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER WAS APPROVED, WHICH IT WAS, THEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS BROUGHT BACK FOR DISCUSSION IN A NEW VOTE.
SO THE MOTION THAT WOULD STILL BE ON THE TABLE WOULD BE THE MOTION TO SELECT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AS THE PAPER OF RECORD, AS IT WAS STATED IN, UH, AS IT WAS SO STATED.
SO I BELIEVE WITH THAT WE WOULD JUST CALL FOR A VOTE, CORRECT.
MS. DORM, JUST FOR CLARITY, CAN WE JUST STATE WHO'S MADE? OKAY.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL REDO THAT, BUT I WILL GIVE THE DEFERENCE TO MAKE THE MOTION, UH, TO COUNCILMAN DUKE.
IF HE WOULD STILL LIKE TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU READ IT AS STATED.
IF YOU DON'T, YOU CAN STATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
WOULD THAT BE FAIR, MS. STORM? OKAY.
MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2 0 2 6 0 1 R.
ESTABLISHING THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER FOR THE CITY OF WALLY.
WE DO HAVE A MOTION AS STATED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STR.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE MOTION WITH A SECOND, UH, TO APPOINT THE DALLAS, ESTABLISHING THE DALLAS WARNING NEWS COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
AND THE MOTION FAILS IN A THREE THREE TIE.
SO THAT REOPENS DEBATE ON THE SUBJECT AGAIN, SINCE WE ARE IN A THREE, THREE POSITION, I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR JUST
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A SECOND.COUNCILMAN STRANG? YEAH, MY COMMENT IS THAT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN DUKE.
UM, IN FACT, WE NEVER SEE HIM HERE ANYMORE.
I MEAN, IS IT REALLY WILEY NEWS? IT'S LIKE ONE COMPANY THAT OWNS LIKE THREE OR FOUR LOCAL NEWSPAPERS OR SOMETHING.
SO DALLAS MORNING NEWS IST GOING ANYWHERE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER LOCAL REACH, BUT THESE DAYS, THE PEOPLE THAT READ NEWSPAPERS, WE ALL AGING OUT AND NOBODY READS PAPER ANYMORE.
THE FACT, IF YOU BELIEVE THE ARTICLE FROM PEPPERDINE UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR, PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN READ A SENTENCE ANYMORE.
SO I'M INCLINED TO GO AHEAD WITH DALLAS, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T REALLY LIKE ANYTHING DALLAS, SIMPLY FOR THOSE REASONS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE FROM COUNSEL? AND YES, IF WE, IF WE END UP WITH ANOTHER THREE THREE, THEN I'LL SUGGEST WE TABLE.
SO, UM, GOT A LITTLE MORE INPUT FROM COUNCILMAN STRAIN.
ANY INPUT FROM COUNCILMAN HOOVER? WOULD YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER THAT? UH, THE MOTION'S JUST FAILED AT THIS POINT.
DID YOU, ANY COMMENTS? NOT REALLY.
I'M JUST WANTED TO OPEN IT UP SINCE EVERYONE ELSE IS.
NO, SIR, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD TAKE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE ITEM.
CAN CAN IT BE THE SAME MOTION MS. DORM IF IT HAS FAILED? YEAH, I'M, SO I'M OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM.
WE'VE HEARD FROM ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON IF WE CONTINUE TO BE DEADLOCKED, THEN AT THAT POINT I WILL CALL FOR US TO CONSIDER TABLING.
UM, SO MAYOR PRO TEM MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WILEY NEWSPAPER AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF CITY OF WILEY.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MO UM, I APOLOGIZE.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? ID MY MOTION TO THE WORDING? OKAY.
SO WE'VE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2026 DASH OH ONE R, ESTABLISHING THE WILEY NEWSPAPER AS THE OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER OF THE CITY OF WILEY.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND COUNCIL.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AND THAT MOTION WILL CARRY FOUR TO TWO WITH COUNCILMAN STR AND COUNCILMAN DUKE AGAINST.
[9. Consider, and act upon, Council input and approval to send a letter, thanking Spiritual Wildlife Rescue & Rehabilitation Sanctuary, Inc., for their assistance with wildlife rehabilitation services. ]
WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER NINE, CONSIDERING AND ACTING UPON COUNCIL INPUT AND APPROVAL TO SEND A LETTER THANKING SPIRITUAL WILDLIFE RESCUE AND REHABILITATION SANCTUARY INCORPORATED FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE WITH WILDLIFE REHABILITATION SERVICES.UH, COUNSEL, AS IT STATES IN THE DISCUSSION, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT I REQUESTED TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
UH, I RECEIVED A, AN OFFICIAL REQUEST, UH, FROM THE HEAD OF THIS ORGANIZATION ASKING IF I WOULD PROVIDE A LETTER OF THANKS, RECOGNIZING THAT THEY'VE TAKEN IN SEVERAL WILDLIFE FROM ME, UH, SAVING THE CITY OR POTENTIALLY ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, YOUNG BABY BOBCATS THAT WERE MISIDENTIFIED ORIGINALLY AS KITTENS, SO MM-HMM
UM, SO, UH, THEY JUST ASKED IF I WOULD DO THAT AS THEY ASKED FOR IT TO BE OFFICIAL AND USING LETTERHEAD.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF COUNSEL.
I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME.
COUNCILMAN PICKENS? WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, BUT BARRING NONE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM PRESENTED.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRING? I'LL SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA FINALLY THIS EVENING.
IT WAS A LONG, REGULAR AGENDA FOR US TONIGHT COMING FROM THE HOLIDAYS.
[WS1. Discuss and provide direction to staff on Contracts, Request for Proposals (RFP), and Request for Quotes (RFQ). ]
WITH THAT, THAT DOES MOVE US INTO OUR WORK SESSION.WE HAVE ONE WORK SESSION, ONE DISCUSSING AND PROVIDING DIRECTION TO STAFF ON CONTRACTS, REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, RFPS, AND REQUEST FOR QUOTES.
R RQS, UH, I PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
UH, I'M NOT LOOKING TO HAVE A SUPER, SUPER LONG CONVERSATION, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING REGARDING THE ORIGINAL ENGINEERING, UM, PROPOSAL THAT CAME FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN AND GIVE DIRECTION AS A MAJORITY OF THE BODY ON WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO PROVIDE US WHEN THESE COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'M GONNA JUST OPEN THE FLOOR WITH THAT AND I JUST, I DID NOT ASK STAFF TO PREPARE ANYTHING.
I'M JUST ASKING MY COLLEAGUES AND I TO
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GIVE THEM DIRECTION SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US, WE HAVE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO TAKE ACTION AT THAT TIME.UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, I KNOW CONTRACTS CAN'T ALWAYS BE PUBLISHED BECAUSE OF COMPETITIVE REASONS.
I WOULD ASK THAT EVEN IF THEY'RE DONE IN A, UH, EMAIL MARKED CONFIDENTIAL OR, OR WHATEVER THE PROPER TERMINOLOGY IS, UH, THAT THE CONTRACTS BE SENT OUT, UM, WHEN THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED.
SO ON THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE MEETING, WOULD THAT BE REASONABLE TIMING MR. PARKER TO BE ABLE TO, TO SEND OUT THE CONTRACT THAT'S BEING REQUESTED? UM, YES, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
THERE'S A WAY WE CAN ALSO DO IT, UM, TO WHERE COUNSEL GETS A PRIVATE PACKAGE AS WELL.
A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT ARE IN THE CONTRACTS ARE CAN CONSIDERED PROPRIETARY MM-HMM
AND ARE NOT, UM, RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, WE OFTEN RECEIVE OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS FOR DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND GET AN AG RULING ON ALL THOSE, UH, REQUESTS SO THAT, UM, WE DON'T RELEASE THINGS, UM, THAT AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE RELEASED.
SO WE, WE CAN, WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION TO MAKE A A PACKET PRIVATE FOR, FOR COUNCIL VIEWING THAT INCLUDES THOSE CONTRACTS AND, AND THAT WOULD BE FINE.
WHATEVER DELIVERY METHOD, UH, IS EASIEST FOR STAFF OR PREFERENTIAL IN THAT CASE.
UM, COUNSEL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING ABOUT ASKING TO BE STANDARDLY INCLUDED? COUNCILMAN STRING? YEAH, SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH A LOT OF RFPS, NOT MY FAVORITE THING BECAUSE I'M THE GUY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE PROFESSIONALLY SPEAKING.
UM, WHAT I'VE NOTICED IN A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS, WHICH ARE HUGE, UM, IS TYPICALLY WHEN THINGS GO UP TO THE C LEVEL, THEY USUALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF A COMPARE AND CONTRAST.
NO NAMES, NO NEC, NOT NECESSARILY AMOUNTS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST SOME KIND OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE, WELL HOW ARE THEY THE SIMILAR, HOW ARE THEY DIFFERENT AND WHY THIS PARTICULAR ONE HAS BEEN CHOSEN.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE SOME EXHAUSTIVE DETAIL, BUT JUST A GENERAL SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, SERVICE LEVELS ARE BETTER HERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROS AND CONS, THAT KIND OF A THING.
THAT'S USUALLY WHAT I SEE OUT THERE.
AND UM, SO SOME KIND OF GENERAL STATEMENT ON WHAT LED TO THEM BEING THE HIGHEST SCORING.
COUNSEL, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD REQUEST BE PROVIDED? MAYOR PROTO? YES MA'AM.
I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THE, I MEAN WE HAD ONE OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT IN FRONT OF US AND MOST OF IT IS SIMILAR QUESTIONING, LINE OF QUESTIONING OR WHAT INFORMATION WE PERSONALLY I'M LOOKING FOR IS FROM THE LINE OF QUESTIONING WHEN WE HAD IN OUR LAST MEETING ON IN REGARDS TO THE LAST CONTRACT, JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT, THE SCOPE OF THE WORK.
ARE THEY USING THIRD PARTIES? ARE THEY NOT USING THIRD PARTIES? YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE GOOD TO WILEY, YOU KNOW, HOW'S THIS GONNA BENEFIT? DO THEY KNOW THE CITY OF WILEY AS A WHOLE OR ARE THEY GONNA SIT BEHIND A COMPUTER IN CALIFORNIA AND MAKE A DECISION FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE NEVER BEEN OR SEEN OR, AND I GET IT, A LOT OF THIS IS DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, SO I DON'T WANT TO GENERALIZE IT, BUT WHEN WE'RE PUTTING THESE TOGETHER, KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME OF THOSE TOUCHES TO IT.
COULD YOU HELP ME SUMMARIZE THAT PLEASE? NO, NO, NOT ME.
COULD YOU, YOU WANT ME TO? YEAH, TRY TO, I WANNA, I WANNA MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK COUNSEL TO GIVE DIRECTION ON EACH ITEM ONE AT A TIME.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TAKING NOTES, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE IT HAS A MAJORITY.
SO WE'RE GIVING, UH, ONE VOICE TO STAFF, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M SUMMARIZING THAT CORRECTLY.
UH, FOR ME IT'S THE LINE OF QUESTION THAT I HAD THE LAST MEETING, MAYOR.
MOSTLY IT'S ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY HAVE WORK IN, UH, WHAT TRADES OR WHAT OTHER ARE THERE, SO, SO DETAILS ON THE COMPETENCIES AND, AND MAKEUP OF THE COMPANY SELECTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR, OR THAT TYPE OF THING? CORRECT.
SO A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU, UM, ON THE CONTRACT.
IF WE PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION, OUR GRADING CRITERIA, UM, WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION IN IT THAT WILL ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS,
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I THINK.WOULD THAT BE EASIEST TO SEND THAT SEND WHAT'S ALLOWABLE FROM THAT THEN? YES SIR.
THAT SEEMS TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT I HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IN DECEMBER, BUT COUNCILMAN PICKENS.
UM, YEAH, I'D, I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE GETTING DETAILS TO HOW DECISIONS WERE MADE, UM, IN, IN THE WAY THAT THE CITY STAFF IS GONNA PROCEED.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I MIGHT HAVE IS THAT IF WE RECEIVE THIS ONLY WHEN THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED, IT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO HAVE SOME BACK AND FORTH ON QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
AND IF THE, IF THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE WELL AHEAD OF THE AGENDA ITEM COMING OUT, THAT THAT INFORMATION BE PROVIDED TO COUNSEL, UM, IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT GIVES US SOME COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH TO ASKING FOR AS MUCH TIME AS, AS IS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW FOR QUESTION AND FEEDBACK.
SORRY, I'M MAKING SURE I'M SUMMARIZING WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING.
I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE WEIGHING IN.
SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THESE ONE AT A TIME.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE, THIS IS NOT ANY SORT OF A VOTE SO TO SPEAK, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE DIRECTION FROM THE MAJORITY SO THAT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH 'EM ONE AT A TIME AND JUST ASK COUNCIL, ARE WE IN AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THE, IN A CONFIDENTIAL MANNER CONTRACTS THAT ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW IN ADVANCE? I'LL JUST ASK, IS THERE ANYONE WHO, WHO COUNCILMAN? I'LL JUST SAY MAYOR PROTE.
JUST ASK IF ANYBODY DOES ANY, DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO THAT OR I'LL JUST READ 'EM OUT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SAVED TIME OR A STATEMENT ON THE TOP CHOICE GRADING CRITERIA AND THEN JUST TO RECEIVE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF THAT IS IN FACT BEFORE WHEN THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT'S OPPOSED TO THOSE? I'M NOT SEEING ANY INDICATIONS.
SO, UM, THAT HELPS AND THAT WAY STAFF CAN MAKE SURE THEY GET ANY OF THAT TO US SO THAT WE CAN, UH, ASK QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE AND BE PREPARED TO HOPEFULLY NOT HAVE ANY FOR FUTURE DELAYS ON CONTRACTS WHEN THEY COME FORWARD.
JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE WE COULD ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT ONE AFTER OUR ENGINEERING CONTRACT GOT TABLED AND PUSHED BACK BY ABOUT A MONTH.
ALRIGHT, THAT COMPLETES OUR WORK SESSIONS.
[RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION ]
SESSION AND THEN[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 2 DELIBERATION REGARDING REAL PROPERTY.ES ONE IS DISCUSSED WITH THE RELOCATION OF THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE.
CONSIDER THE SAILOR ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT BALLARD BROWN, BROWN EUBANK 7 5 44 COOPER FM 5 44 SAN IN JACKSON OAK REGENCY STEEL STATE HIGHWAY 78 ALLEN EAST STATE HIGHWAY 78.
BROWN STATE HIGHWAY 78 BROWN, BIRMINGHAM, STATE HIGHWAY 78 AND STATE HIGHWAY 78 SKYVIEW AND SECTION 5 5 1 0 8 7 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
DS THREE DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE WDC HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECTING TO DISCUSS THE OFFER OF INCENTIVES FOR PROJECTS 2022 DASH ONE B 22, 22 DASH 10 D 2023 DASH ONE C 2024 DASH FIVE A 2024 DASH 12 C 2025 DASH FOUR A 2025 DASH FOUR D 2025 DASH EIGHT I 2025 DASH NINE B 2025 DASH NINE D 2025 DASH 10 C 2025 DASH 10 F 2025 DASH 11 G 2025 DASH 11 H 2025 DASH 11 J 2025 DASH 12 B 2025 DASH 12 E 2025 DASH 12 F 2025 DASH 12 G 2025 DASH 12 H 2025 DASH 12 I 2025 DASH 12 J 2025 DASH 12 K 2026 DASH ONE A 26 26 DASH ONE B 2026 DASH ONE C AND SECTION 5 51 0 7 4 THE PERSONNEL MEETINGS MATTERS.
ES FOUR CITY MANAGER QUARTERLY EVALUATION.
[RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION ]
WITH THAT I WILL RECONVENE US INTO REGULAR SESSION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SOME ACTION TO TAKE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES.
MAYOR COUNCIL PICKENS, UH, MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE WILEY EDC TO ENTER INTO A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT 2025 DASH FOUR D IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND COUNCILMAN STRANG SECONDS COUNCIL PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION MAYOR PRO TEM? YES.
MAYOR, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE YUDC TO ENTER INTO A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROJECT 2025 DASH EIGHT I IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000.
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WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATE.DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE OR AS STATED COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THE MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ONE WITH COUNCILMAN DUKE AGAINST.
WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE TO, UH, I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
[READING OF ORDINANCES ]
WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCES AND THEN YES.READING OF THE ORDINANCES NOW, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH OH ONE AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 32, WHICH ESTABLISHED A BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026 REPEALING ALL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026 DASH OH TWO.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 DASH 32, WHICH ESTABLISHED A BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026 REPEALING ALL CONFLICTING ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UH, WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR TOTAL AGENDA THIS EVENING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILMAN STRAIN? YES, I MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN.
COUNSEL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES.
ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN, PLEASE VOTE TO ADJOURN.
IF YOU HAVE NOT VOTED YET, WE'RE MISSING A COUPLE, PUSH YOUR BUTTON.