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[CALL TO ORDER]

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I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IT'S NOW 613. GO AHEAD AND START THE WILY PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR DECEMBER 16TH, 2025. FIRST UP IS THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER GOOCH AND THE PLEDGE BY MYSELF. PLEASE RISE. FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY YOU GIVE TO US TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF WYLIE IN THIS PNC COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT.

PLEASE BE WITH EACH OF US TONIGHT AS WE EVALUATE THE PROPOSAL REQUESTS BROUGHT BEFORE US. GIVE US WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING IN ALL THAT WE DO TONIGHT. WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY, NEXT UP IS COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. AND SINCE NO ONE IS GETTING UP, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS, THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS ANYONE NEED ANYTHING PULLED OFF? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOVE. WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, I SECOND, I HAVE A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

[1. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Lot 1, Block A of BizSpace Wylie for the development of an office/warehouse development on 5.274 acres. Property located at 2800 Hensley Lane.]

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. OKAY. FIRST ITEM ON REGULAR AGENDA. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A SITE PLAN FOR LOT ONE. BLOCK A OF BID SPACE WIDELY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT ON 5.274 ACRES. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2800 HENSLEY LANE, MR. MOLINA. YES.

OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO 800 HENSLEY LANE. IT'S AROUND 5.1274 ACRES. THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP EIGHT OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, ALL TO BE PLOTTED ON ONE SINGLE LOT. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE ADDING AN ACCESS DRIVE THAT CONNECTS TO EXCHANGE STREET, AND THEN IT HAS TWO ADDITIONAL FIRE LANES THAT HAVE ACCESS OFF OF HENSLEY LANE. MOST OF THE PARKING IS PROVIDED ALONG THAT DRIVE, AS THAT IS ALSO AN EASEMENT. IT'S A 60 FOOT ACCESS AND DRAINAGE UTILITY EASEMENT. THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THIS PROJECT WAS ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY DID HAVE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SCREENING. THEY'RE PROVIDING AN AN IRON FENCE WITH MASONRY COLUMNS WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. AND MOST OF THEIR LANDSCAPING IS ALONG THAT BUFFER, SINCE THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PUT LANDSCAPING ON THAT EASEMENT ALONG THAT DRIVE, THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

ALL OF THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE SHARED. PARKING. THEIR DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES ARE IN THE BACK, LIKE WHERE MY MOUSE IS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ENCLOSURES AS WELL. THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER 6000FT■S ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE SPRINKLED. THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER WON'T. AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS. AND THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE AND I CAN ZOOM IN ON THE SITE PLAN IF Y'ALL NEED ME TO, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S PRETTY ZOOMED OUT.

THE DUMPSTERS ARE IN THE NORTH END AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL. YES. AND THEN WE ALSO REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE CROSSWALKS ALL THROUGHOUT THE SITE. SINCE IT'S GOING TO HAVE SHARED PARKING, SOMEONE PARKED FAR AWAY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BUILDINGS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOLINA? YOU SAID THE

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APPLICANT WAS HERE. THEY HAD ANY.

IF NOT, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW MANY MORE OF THESE FLEX SPACE WAREHOUSES ARE WE GOING TO BE PRESENTED? WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW OF THEM RECENTLY. I THINK THE ZONING IS IS JUST FOR THE SITE PLANS. YEAH I KNOW, YEAH, THE ZONING ALLOWS FOR IT. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WITH THESE KIND OF SPACES, THEY CAN BE REHABILITATED IF NEED BE, YOU KNOW, SO TO SPEAK. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THE ONE THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED, IS ALREADY LIKE HASN'T EVEN BROKEN GROUND YET AND THEY'VE GOT SPACE LEASED OUT READY TO GO. SO THERE'S THERE'S A DEMAND FOR IT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH DEMAND, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN BACK THERE THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FILL US IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT BUT THAT BEING SAID, YEAH, IT'S ZONED FOR IT. AND BECAUSE OF THE STYLE OF THE BUILDING, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO TO MOVE THINGS AROUND AS FAR AS THE KIND OF USES THAT CAN GO IN THERE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. GOOD LUCK. OKAY, MOVING

[2. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Lot 2, Block A of Summit Private School Addition for the development of a daycare center on 1.847 acres. Property located at 701 W Brown.]

ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. CONSIDERING ACT UPON A SITE PLAN FOR LOT TWO, BLOCK A OF SUMMIT PRIVATE SCHOOL ADDITION FOR THE DEVELOPER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DAYCARE CENTER ON 1.847 ACRES. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 701 WEST BROWN. MR. MOLINA. YES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SITE PLAN FOR A DAYCARE LOCATED AT 701 WEST BROWN STREET. IT'S JUST UNDER TWO ACRES. THE BUILDING MEASURES JUST A LITTLE OVER 11,000FT■!S. THE WAY THE BUILDIG HAD TO BE PLACED IS THEY HAD TO KEEP IN MIND THE ZONING ORDINANCES, RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STANDARDS, WHICH MEANT THEY HAD TO KEEP A CERTAIN SETBACK DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE. THAT'S WHY THE BUILDING'S PLACED WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT'S 78FT AWAY FROM ANY RESIDENTS. AND THAT'S JUST DONE. WHENEVER THERE'S A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY ALSO HAD TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THEY HAD THE EASEMENT, THE EXISTING EASEMENT IN THE BACK NEAR RUSTIC CIRCLE. SO REALLY, THE WAY IT'S PLACED THERE, IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WITHOUT NEEDING ANY VARIANCES, THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING AND HAVE PROVIDED THE TWO ADA SPACES. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE PLANNING ON CONNECTING THE SIDEWALK FROM AND THEN HAVING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM THAT PARKING AREA WHERE MY MOUSE IS, AND THEN THEIR DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES WHERE MY MOUSE IS, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A PLAY AREA AS WELL. OH, AND THEN SO BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING A SIX FOOT TALL BOARD ON BOARD WOODEN FENCE AS ADDITIONAL SCREENING FOR THAT. YEAH, THAT'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE. THESE THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS TO. I'M SORRY IT'S HARD TO READ THAT THOSE PLANS. IT'S JUST THREE SIDES TO THE FENCE ON THE FRONT FOR THE FENCE. YEAH. IT'S YEAH IT'S ON THE IT'S ONLY WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL IS AT. RIGHT. OKAY. TWO SIDES. THERE YOU GO. YEAH I WAS GOING TO ASK KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE A SITE MAP OF THIS AREA. YES, THEY HAVE THE SIDEWALK. IS THAT NO SITE MAP LIKE A GOOGLE. OH YEAH. RESIDENTIAL. YEAH, I CAN ZOOM INTO THAT. YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

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SO THIS IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED. THERE IS AN ALLEY WAY. AND THEN RUSTIC CIRCLE, IT ENDS IN A CUL DE SAC BACK HERE. YEAH. SO THEIR DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE WOULD BE RIGHT OVER HERE. SO I KNOW THAT THE LAND WAS ALREADY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, AND. SO IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITH THE ZONING. ONE THING WE MADE SURE WAS WE MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH FIRE ACCESS. SO THERE IS A FIRE LANE. THEY ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO AN AMENDED PLAT FOR THAT FIRE LANE IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S PRIOR TO THE COE BEING ISSUED THAT'S NEEDED. CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YEAH. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. Y'ALL CAN COME UP I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I DON'T ASSUME. YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. LEWIS HARTMAN 6245 RAVENDALE DALLAS, TEXAS. SO PRIVATE SCHOOL IS THERE. PARENTS DROP OFF? IS THERE LIKE OTHER VEHICLES PICK UP, DROP OFF, NO DROP OFF OR PICKUP. OKAY. PARENTS WILL PARK AND WALK THEIR CHILD INSIDE. OKAY. YEP. THAT WAS IT. OKAY. SO SIMPLE ONE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE BUSSES OR ANYTHING, BUT. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD THING TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE MOVING IN TO THE AREA, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN. AND UNLESS WE STIFLE OURSELVES AND THE LOCATION OF THE SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, REALLY GOOD PROXIMITY TO. WELL, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, I WAS JUST GOING TO I WOULD GO FOR IT. OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER TWO OF THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND IT. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. THAT PASSES

[3. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2022-51 (PD 2022-51) to Commercial Corridor - Special Use Permit (CC-SUP) on 2.02 acre to allow for a landscaping contractor’s maintenance yard. Property located at 703 N Highway 78 (ZC 2025-14).]

FIVE ZERO. OKAY. MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER. ITEM NUMBER THREE. WHOLE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 20 2251 PD 2022 DASH 51 TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT CC ON 2.02 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPING CONTRACTORS. MAINTENANCE YARD PROPERTY LOCATED AT 703 NORTH HIGHWAY 78 CC 20 2514 MR. MOLINA. YES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 703 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 78. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED WITHIN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS MEANT FOR AN EVENT CENTER DISTILLERY USE. THE APPLICANT IS NOW ASKING FOR IT TO GO BACK TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPING, CONTRACTORS.

MAINTENANCE YARD. THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IS BEING ASKED FOR MARKETING PURPOSES, AS THERE IS A BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WANT TO LEASE A 6000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND THEN ON THE ZONING EXHIBIT, THEY'RE SHOWING THE FENCED IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPING, CONSTRUCTION YARD. THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION, BUT WE DID MAIL 25 NOTICES AND DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING IN OPPOSITION OR IN

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FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. AND THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLAN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AS IT'S IN THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SECTOR. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WE CAN DO THE PRESENTATION FIRST. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD REAL QUICK IS THEY DO. THEY ARE OPERATING AS A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE YARD AS OF RIGHT THIS SECOND. THEY DO OWN THE CURRENTLY OWN THE PROPERTY. THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.

AND THE REASONING BEHIND THAT WAS ONE TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THE PROPERTY TOWARDS SOMETHING.

AND TWO, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES POSSIBLY WITH WITH THE SP, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SEE HOW THEY WOULD OPERATE UNDER A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, WHICH THAT WILL EXPIRE AT THE END OF JANUARY IF THE SP WASN'T APPROVED. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, AND WE WERE TRYING TO SEE WHETHER WE WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THAT SORT OF THING, JUST BECAUSE OF THE KIND OF BUSINESS IT WAS. AND THIS IS KIND OF A COMMERCIAL AREA, AND CONTRACTORS ARE JUST KIND OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, BUT WE'VE DRIVEN BY THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT'S PRETTY CLEAN, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AS THIS, BUT IT'S UNDER A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT THAT WILL EXPIRE AT THE END OF JANUARY. YOU SAID THAT YOU DID IT WITH THE IDEA IN MIND OF SEEING WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THE COMMUNITY. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY? NO. BESIDES, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK TO ME, BUT THEY WERE IT WAS GENERALLY LIKE, OKAY, YEAH, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. AND THEN WHEN THEY IT GETS TO THEM JANUARY 13TH, OBVIOUSLY THAT COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING LIKE HUGELY NOTHING NEGATIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS MORE OF JUST A OKAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEN SEE HOW IT GOES. SO NO ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC GOING WITH THE BUSINESSES RIGHT THERE.

NOT THAT I'VE HEARD OF. NO. I SAID I LIVE OVER THERE AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT. SO. THEY HAVE THEY ENLIST ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS. THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THEIR PRESENTATION. YEAH.

TURN ON THE MIC. IS IT ON? YEAH. IT'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. MICHAEL THOMAS, 4007 TRAVIS STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. WE'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT BROUGHT A PRESENTATION. I FEEL OVER PREPARED, BUT THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME. JASON AND KEVIN, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU IN PERSON. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP SO FAR. SO KEVIN DID A GREAT JOB KIND OF EXPLAINING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TO GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. AND THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE I, MICHAEL THOMAS, REPRESENT BOTH THE APPLICANT, THE OPERATING BUSINESS AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER HAPPENED TO BE ONE IN THE SAME IN THE SENSE THAT THEIR SHARED OWNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. ALSO IN ATTENDANCE IS JAKE BLEDSOE, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE LANDSCAPING COMPANY, AND JEFF FINK, WHO'S GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR. AS JASON MENTIONED, WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING OUT OF THE FACILITY JUST IN THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FENCE YARD AREA IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING. SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED THE PROPERTY AS WE PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION.

IT'S WORKING GREAT FOR US NOW TO THE EXTENT WE COULD RUN MORE CREWS OUT OF THAT EXPAND OPERATIONS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WHY DO WE WANT TO OPERATE OUT OF THIS FACILITY? OUR HEADQUARTERS IS IN LEWISVILLE. IT'S A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON ROUGHLY TWO ACRES.

IT'S A LONG DRIVE FROM LEWISVILLE TO WYLIE, WHERE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, INCLUDING WYLIE JUNIOR HIGH AND INTERMEDIATE, AND IN THE PAST HAVE WORKED ON FIVE OTHER PROJECTS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. JUST THE WYLIE SCHOOL DISTRICT. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THERE ARE FOUR OTHER ACTIVE PROJECTS IN THE AREA. WE SAVE A LOT ON DRIVE TIME. IT'S GOOD FOR OUR BUSINESS, SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM STAFF RELATIVE TO TRAFFIC FLOW. WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT IN OUR PLAN. BASICALLY, WE OUR GUYS GET IN EARLY, THEY LEAVE BEFORE PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES OUT 78, AND WE GET BACK IN THE AFTERNOONS 330 TO 4:00. WE'RE COMING BACK ALONG. MARBLE HOPEFULLY HELPS ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. I DON'T WANT TO TALK FOR LONGER THAN I NEED TO, BUT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT IN THE CP CONDITIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WHEN WE TALKED IT WAS MORE OF LIKE YOUR OUT, YOUR STORAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS IRRIGATION EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, NOT LIKE ROCK AND SAND AND THAT SORT OF THING. IS THAT STILL CORRECT? THANK YOU, JASON, FOR THE PROMPT. I'M NOT GOING THROUGH MY PRESENTATION. SO I'M SPEAKING FROM MEMORY. YEAH.

REALLY ALL WE'RE DOING IS PARKING TRUCKS AND TRAILERS. SO A TYPICAL CREW HAS AN F-250, A

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TRAILER AND A SKID STEER. THE SKID STEERS ARE PRETTY MUCH STAYING ON THE JOB SITE, SO THEY'RE REALLY NOT THERE, EXCEPT ON RARE OCCASIONS OVERNIGHT AT THE WYLIE FACILITY AT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. MOST OF THE TIME IT IS JUST 4 OR 5 F-250 AND THE TRAILERS, AND THAT'S IT. ANY RAW MATERIAL STORAGE IS EITHER GOING TO GO IN THE CONNECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE SITE OR INSIDE, AND THERE'S VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF THAT. COULD WE HAVE PLANT MATERIAL STORED ON SITE? POTENTIALLY. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY LIMITED AND TRANSIENT.

IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR A DAY AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO A JOB SITE. SO THERE'S REALLY NOT AN INTENT OF USING THE FACILITY IN TERMS OF SIGNIFICANT MATERIAL STORAGE.

MAINTENANCE. IS THERE MAINTENANCE GOING ON THERE LIKE FOR EQUIPMENT OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? NO. IN TERMS OF ANY EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE TWO ON STAFF MECHANICS AT OUR HEADQUARTERS IN LEWISVILLE. IF MACHINES WERE DOWN, WE'D TAKE THEM UP TO LEWISVILLE. SO NO, NO MAINTENANCE DONE THERE. YEAH. IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE. YES. YEAH. YES.

IT'S NOT OR I'M SORRY. NO IT IS NOT DONE THERE. YEAH. SORRY. MAINTENANCE. AND I START THINKING ABOUT MOWING GRASS SO I GET CONFUSED. YEAH. NO SORRY I FIGURED THERE WAS A DIFFERING DEFINITION. YEAH. BUT OKAY. SO JUST PARKING SOME MATERIAL THERE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF NOISE. I KNOW THERE'S NOT. AND AND ANOTHER THING, JUST TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND IF THE ZONING WERE APPROVED BY OR, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY PNC GOES TO COUNCIL GETS APPROVED, THEY STILL HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN. AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CLEANING THE SITE UP. YOU KNOW, ABOUT THERE'S SOME CERTAIN THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE HAPPEN. RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE OPERATING OFF OF TUP. SO LIKE THE CONEX BOXES AND STUFF ARE THERE AND THEY'VE GOT A CHAIN LINK FENCE UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S GOT SOME SCREENING ON IT. WE'LL ASK THEM TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. IF THE ZONING WITH THE TIP YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE, ASK THEM TO DROP A TON OF MONEY INTO THINGS. BUT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SITE PLAN WILL COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD. IF THE IF THE SNP DOES GET APPROVED. SO SCREENING AND STUFF CAN BE DEALT WITH AT THAT POINT. YES SIR. OKAY. OKAY. IF NOBODY ELSE HAS A A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF, WE CAN OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.

IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE IT. AND SINCE NOBODY IS GETTING UP OR MOVING, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. OKAY. THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS GETTING USED I LIVE OVER THERE. I LIKE I SAID I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER HEARD IT OR SEEN ANYTHING. IT HASN'T IMPACTED ME. SO. AND IF WE CAN, LIKE JASON SAID, DEAL WITH SOME OF THE MORE ESTHETIC PART OF IT AT THE SITE PLAN.

WHEN WOULD THE SITE PLAN COME FORWARD? THIS GOES TO COUNCIL ON THE 13TH OF JANUARY, SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THEIR SITE PLAN ON THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE TECHNICALLY ON THE 14TH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT MONDAY OR THEY WOULDN'T BE THE 14TH, BUT THE FOLLOWING MONDAY. SO AND THEN THERE'S USUALLY A 3 TO 4 WEEK REVIEW PROCESS. SO SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY WOULD BE REALISTIC OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. SECOND MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

[4. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light Industrial (LI) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LISUP) on 5.578 acres to allow for a warehouse use. Property located at 603 Sanden Blvd (ZC 2025-18).]

THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO. OKAY. UP NEXT, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALLEY TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT LCP ON 5.578 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A WAREHOUSE USE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 603 SAND AND BOULEVARD, ZC 20 2518. MR. MOLINA. YES, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE.

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ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SINCE THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS NEEDED DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. PRETTY MUCH ANY BUILDING OVER 25,000FT■!S THAT'S CONSIDERED INDUSTRIAL WOULD NEED THIS UP JUST DUE TO THE TYPE OF USERS THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE. THIS BUILDING MEASURES JUST UNDER 63,000FT■!S, AND IT'S LOCATED ON SAND IN. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE TWO ENTRANCES OR ONE ENTRANCE OFF OF SAND IN. AND THEN IT CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING ACCESS DRIVE THAT HAS AN ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINT OFF OF SAND IN AND THEN SO TOWARDS FM 544. SO THAT'S LOCATED TO THE NORTH. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE ALL THE TRUCK PARKING NEAR THE BACK AND MOST OF THE PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES AND CLIENTS ALONG SAND AND BOULEVARD. THEY DO HAVE A FIRE LANE THAT LOOPS AROUND THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TILT WALL CONSTRUCTION AS WELL. AND THAT'S THEIR LANDSCAPING PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE IT MOSTLY ALONG THE PARKING AREAS. AND THEY DO HAVE THE PROPOSAL FOR A DETENTION POND AS WELL.

THEN THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS. SO THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS IT ALLOWS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USE INSIDE OFFICE SHOWROOM LIGHT ASSEMBLY AND FABRICATION AND WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION. I REACHED OUT TO THE DEVELOPER AND SINCE THIS IS SHELL SPACE, I KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE TYPE OF USER THEY HAD IN MIND. THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A MAX OF 4 TO 6 TENANTS, SO EACH TENANT WOULD BE AROUND 10,000 TO 20,000FT■!S FOR THE OCCUPIED SPACE. AND THEY'RE REALLY WANTING A SMALL LOCAL USE USERS THAT ONLY USE LIKE BOX TRUCKS. MOSTLY THERE MIGHT BE THE OCCASIONAL 18 WHEELER, BUT IT'S MOSTLY SUPPOSED TO BE FOR BOX TRUCKS. THIS IS IN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, SO THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLAN. WE MAILED TEN NOTICES AND RECEIVED TWO IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST. AND THAT'S WHERE THE X'S ARE. MOST OF THOSE IN OPPOSITION HAD CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC. SAND AND BOULEVARD IS LISTED AS A SECONDARY THOROUGHFARE AND OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, SO IT IS EXPECTED TO BE WIDENED TO FOUR LANES. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WHERE IT'S AT ON THE PRIORITY LIST. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT IT NEEDS, RIGHT? SO THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. HERE'S THE LETTER THAT THAT WASN'T IN THE PACKET SO YOU CAN READ IT. BUT ESSENTIALLY HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS TO THE ORIGINAL. THE FIRST PERSON THAT HAD THE PROTEST. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THIS REVIEW IS ALSO THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, SO YOU WON'T SEE THIS AGAIN SINCE IT'S PART OF THE SOUP. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOLINA OR THE THE APPLICANT? YOU SAID THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

YES. OKAY. I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. IF YOU CAN CALL THE APPLICANT.

YEAH, OKAY. TAYLOR. STELL, 10410 CHESTERTON. DALLAS, TEXAS. AND I AM THE DEVELOPERS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, BUT I WOULD BE THE ONE LEASING THE PROJECT, SO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'LL HAVE LEASING THE BUILDING. OKAY, BUT Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A USE. IT'S GOING TO BE SPLIT UP I'M ASSUMING. OR IT WOULD BE CASE BY CASE BASIS. BUT AS KEVIN HAD MENTIONED, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 4 TO 6 TENANTS, 10 TO 15,000FT. AND REALISTICALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THE GROUPS THAT HAVE LEFT WILEY IN THE PAST OVER ON STEEL ROAD, CAPITAL REGENCY, THAT DON'T HAVE KIND OF A CLASS A PRODUCT TO GO TO THAT'S A TAD BIT BIGGER THAN THEIR METAL BUILDINGS OVER THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE THE GROUPS. AND AS WELL, WITH ALL THE ROOFTOPS COMING IN HERE, I BET THERE'D BE A LOT OF CONTRACTORS THAT SERVICE THE THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS HVAC, PLUMBERS, ROOFERS. TYPICALLY WE SEE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, THOSE ARE THE GROUPS ALSO THAT THAT LIKE THE SPACE. BUT NO ONE SIGNS ON HAS SIGNED ON THE

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DOTTED LINE YET FOR THIS. YES. NO. OKAY. YEAH. NO. SORRY ABOUT THAT OKAY. YEAH. AS FAR AS I MEAN I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TENANTS YET, BUT. FOR ME SOME OF IT IS A LITTLE BIT TRAFFIC.

AND I KNOW WE TALKED TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION OR WIDENING OF SANDY BOULEVARD, BUT IS IT DESIGNED FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC. IS THAT KIND OF WHAT THE PLAN IS? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAYBE.

YEAH. IT'S DESIGNED IT'S 135 DEEP ON THE BACK. SO IT IT IS DESIGNED FOR 18 WHEELERS. BUT AS KEVIN MENTIONED, IT'S MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE MAJORITY BOX TRUCKS. AND I DO THINK THE, THE TWO GROUPS THAT HAD A LITTLE BIT OF ISSUE WITH THE PROJECT, ONE OF THEM REFERENCED IT BEING CROSSTALK. IT'S NOT. IT'S ONLY A REAR LOAD. AND I THINK THE OTHER 1ST MAY HAVE MENTIONED THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A TRUCK TERMINAL. IT'S EVEN IF THIS DEVELOPER WANTED IT TO BE A TRUCK TERMINAL, IT'S NOT DEEP ENOUGH. IT'S IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. THOSE 18 WHEELERS ARE 72FT. AND WITH THIS ONLY BEING 135, IT'S IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T WORK. SO YEAH, IT'S IT'S DESIGNED FOR LOCAL TENANTS THAT HAVE EITHER HISTORICALLY LEFT WHYALLA BECAUSE THERE WASN'T MORE SPACE OR THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN PLANO THAT HAVE SPACE IN PLANO THAT, HEY, NOW YOU CAN YOU LIVE IN WILEY, COME, COME DO BUSINESS IN WILEY. IS THE IDEA BEHIND IT? THAT'S MY QUESTION. ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY. I KNOW A FEW TIMES I'VE GONE DOWN FROM 78 OVER TO 544.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT. AND ADDING MORE TRUCK TRAFFIC TO A TWO LANE. AND THAT ROAD IS NOT REALLY THAT I DON'T THINK IS THAT STURDY. IT NEEDS TO BE REBUILT BEFORE OR AT LEAST BE ON THE SCHEDULE AND PLANNED, I THINK. BEFORE WE START CONSIDERING THIS KIND OF STUFF. SO I WILL SAY IT'S ON THE PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE SCHEDULE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

I MEAN, IT IS ON THE CIP PLAN, BUT WE AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN TOWN. AND I CAN I CAN SAY THIS, THAT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF EXTERNAL ASSISTANCE, THE CITY'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING. I MEAN, LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO WHETHER IT'S A BOND ELECTION OR THE EDC. JASON, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS AT ALL? THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE IT, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE CITY ITSELF, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WIDEN IT. SOON. BELIEVE ME, I'VE BEEN WRITING OUT ROUND THROUGH WILEY, EAST EAST WILEY AND ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON THERE. AND HERE WE'RE GETTING MCMILLAN PUSHED THROUGH. WE WANT ALL THIS STUFF GOING. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A FORESEEABLE FUTURE THAT IT'LL EVER HIT THE SCHEDULE. OH, YEAH. YEAH, JUST JASON GREINER WHILE EDC. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I'VE KNOWN TAYLOR FOR EIGHT YEARS. NINE YEARS? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY ALMOST THE WHOLE TEN YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE IN TOWN. SO I'M JOKING WITH KEVIN EARLIER, AND KEVIN AND I ARE MAYBE HASKINS UP HERE OR TAYLOR DON'T KNOW THAT NO ONE IN THIS MARKET KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES. HE'S DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF COMING IN AND UNDERSTANDING OUR INDUSTRIAL MARKET. THE ONE THING THAT LEE AND ASSOCIATES DID AND WHAT TAYLOR DID, WORKING WITH US, IS ALMOST IN TANDEM IN PARTNERSHIP, IN TRYING TO DRIVE SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL GROWTH AND SOME OF THE OFFICE WAREHOUSE FLEX SPACE, EVEN WE SAW WHAT WAS WHAT WE WERE LOSING. AND THEN WE ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN.

THERE'S NO OTHER LIKE DOCK DOOR LOADING CAPABILITY THAT'S FOR LEASE IN THIS MARKET. AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE IN LIKE OTHER MARKETS LIKE SALTBOX AND SOME OF THE OTHERS. IT'S ALMOST LIKE CO-WORKING SPACE, THE ABILITY FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPER TO COME IN. AND I WISH HE WAS HERE TODAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND HE'S HE'S IN WHAT, FRANCE OR SOMETHING. SO I DON'T BLAME HIM THERE. THE ABILITY THAT WE HAVE AND TO TRY AND HELP KEEP SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES IN OUR MARKET AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT HE'S ACTUALLY REPRESENTED OVER THERE OFF REGENCY WERE ACTUALLY BRAD EMERSON WAS ONE OF THEM, I THINK WAS SITTING UP HERE ON PLANNING AND ZONING PREVIOUSLY, TOO. WE LOST THEIR BUSINESS TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY, AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GROW IN THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE IN, IN METAL DOORS, AND YOU CAN PULL A TRUCK OR FORKLIFT OUT OF YOUR YARD INTO YOUR BUILDING. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO COMPETE AT THAT LEVEL TO ACTUALLY GET THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE TRYING TO COME INTO OUR MARKET. AND WE DON'T HAVE SPACE LIKE THIS. SO RACK EQUITY IS ACTUALLY STARTED WORKING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. FUNNY ENOUGH, THE SPACE LOT THAT WAS OVER THERE OFF OF HENSLEY WAS

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ACTUALLY ONE THAT THEY HAD LOOKED AT A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR THIS EXACT SAME CONCEPT.

AND THE CONCEPT ON THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THE SAME EXACT THING. COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE, RETAIL OR OFFICE PRODUCT OUT FRONT. IT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE BACK OF IT. YOU WOULD HAVE DELIVERY CAPABILITY AND SAME THING. THE WHOLE OVERALL CONCEPT WAS STILL TO JUST BE ABLE TO HAVE BOX DELIVERIES AND MAYBE AN OCCASIONAL SEMI. BUT THIS THOUGHT CAME UP AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LARGER, AND THEY JUMPED ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND GET AHOLD OF SOME OF THE PROPERTIES AND, AND CARVED IT OFF. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A LONG TIME TO TRY AND HELP WITH SOME OF THIS SAND IN ITSELF. AS FAR AS CIP PLAN, WE'VE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT WITH MR. WE'RE IN THE CITY, SIMILAR TO HOW WE WORK WITH THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL. OUR FUNDING IS HAS TO BE TIED TO PROJECTS. AND SO FOR US TO TAKE ON CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE THIS, WE CAN'T JUST FIX SAND IN UNLESS WE WERE BUILDING A BUSINESS PARK ORIGINALLY AND WE WANTED TO PUNCH A ROAD THROUGH THERE. TYPICALLY WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL TRY AND HELP OFFSET THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST OR ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES OR CONCERNS AS THOSE PROJECTS ARE COMING THROUGH. MR. HASKINS IS WHERE MR. MOLINA'S WHERE THERE'S THERE'S ADDITIONAL LAND THAT'S BEING CARVED OFF OVER HERE ON SAND. AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD WARRANT US. I THINK OUR BOARD AND COUNCIL'S HERE. SO LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S ON THE CIP PLAN. BUT TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS OR PARTNER WITH SOME OF THIS INDUSTRY, IT WOULDN'T BE RACK EQUITIES IN THE SITUATION TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT MAYBE EXPLORE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS TO MITIGATE THAT COST OR SPEED UP THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO INSTEAD OF WAITING ON THE CIP PLAN AND HOPING THAT THE CITY MAYBE HAS THE FUNDS TO DO THIS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE GOT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA THAT WOULD WARRANT US AT LEAST GETTING THE BALL ROLLING, AND WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR SOME ENGINEERING DOLLARS WE COULD ALLOCATE TO DESIGN THE ROAD TO SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS SO IT WOULDN'T BE SITTING AROUND WAITING ON THE CITY TO FUND THE ENGINEERING FOR THIS ROAD AND GET STARTED ON IT. AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE HYDROLOGY ALREADY AND FLOOD STUDIES IN THE REGION, SO WE CAN GET STARTED ON THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND I'LL, I'LL EXPRESS THAT TO OUR BOARD AND COUNCIL AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS. SO JASON, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH THE LIKE? I KNOW THEY'VE RENTED OUT PART OF THE BUILDING TO THE FRONT. WHAT'S WITH ALL THE 18 WHEELER ACCESS IN THE BACK OF IT? MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SAND AND STILL WANTS TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE FACILITY IN THE BACK, AND THE ROUGHLY 70 SOME ODD THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, THEY HAVE ONLY 40,000FTS FOR LEASE, AND SOME OF IT'S FILLED WITH OTHER TENANTS, BUT THEIR TESTING FACILITIES IS IN THAT FRONT OFFICE BUILDING AS WELL, SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO VACATE THAT SPACE. THEY WON'T LEASE OUT ALL OF IT. THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP IT IN THE PRODUCTION SPACE. SOMEBODY WE STILL WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY DID THAT BIG EXPANSION A COUPLE YEARS AGO, OVER $30 MILLION.

THEY INVESTED IN THAT EQUIPMENT LINE. AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT LOT NEXT DOOR AND GOING, YOU KNOW, JOB CREATION AND TAXABLE VALUE. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PROBABLY ADD THREE, 4 OR 5 MORE OF THOSE LINES RIGHT OVER THERE AND BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING TO PUT THEM IN SO THAT ONGOING CONVERSATION IS WITH THEM TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND RETOOL THAT FACILITY. THE OPPORTUNITY REALLY COMES UP WITH PARTNERSHIPS, BECAUSE WHEN SAND AND CORPORATE DECIDED TO COME AND REPLANT SOME OF THOSE LOTS, YOU'VE GOT THE COMMERCIAL CAPABILITY OF THE 544 FRONTAGE.

AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE SAND AND FRONTAGE? AND IT REALLY BECAME MORE OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT COMMERCIALIZED COMMERCIAL IN THE FRONT, MAYBE INDUSTRIAL, THAT KIND OF FACES THE SAND AND PROPERTY, BUT THEN ALSO DRIVE THAT DAYTIME POPULATION TAXABLE VALUE. AND ULTIMATELY THE DAYTIME POPULATION IS WHAT IS KEEPING US FROM SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE. AND THIS THIS IS A FUEL FOR THAT FIRE AS THEY START TO COME IN. SO. I GOT A QUESTION FOR THIS, JASON. SO WHEN IT COMES TO CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN APPLY TO THIS AROUND ROAD CONSTRUCTION, IT'S REALLY ABOUT TURN LANES, MAKING SURE THOSE ARE AVAILABLE OR ANYTHING. WE CAN'T ACTUALLY PUT A CONDITION THAT YOU HAVE TO REDO THIS ENTIRE ROAD OR NO WE CANNOT DO THAT. OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. RIGHT. JASON, ONE MORE QUESTION. YES, SIR. ON THE PLAN, CAN WE REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE LANDSCAPE IN THE FRONT? IT IS AN SUV, SO YES. YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF HIDE IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WITH THOSE HOTELS OVER THERE. TRUE. IN THE, IN THE OTHER ONES, I JUST THINK IT BEAUTIFIED A LITTLE BIT. SORRY.

NO PROBLEM. SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN DO ONE OF TWO THINGS. YOU CAN EITHER MAKE IT PART OF THE MOTION OR KNOWING THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY. BUT AS JUST ONE MEMBER. BUT IF THE REST OF THE

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COMMISSION ALSO LIKE THAT, WE CAN TALK TO THEM BEFORE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS AND EVERYTHING, WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY WANT. IF THEY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AS A HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSION WAS LOOKING FOR AND I CAN PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T PART OF THE MOTION, BUT WE WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ARE YOU ASKING FOR SCREENING OR LANDSCAPING? JUST A LITTLE TREE KIND OF HIDE IT. JUST A LITTLE BIT LIKE A TREE SCAPE. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN TALK. WE CAN TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT. IF THE REST OF THE COMMISSION AGREES WITH THAT. YOU SAY THAT WE CAN'T HAVE A STIPULATION IN FOR THEM TO IMPROVE THE ROAD. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S OFF SITE. AND THERE'S A DEVELOPER, I BELIEVE INCENTIVE. I CAN'T THINK OF THE TERM, BUT WE'RE DEVELOPERS IMPROVED PORTIONS OF THE ROAD. WELL, WHAT WHAT WE DO WITH WILEY IS WE HAVE A ROADWAY IMPACT FEE. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF THAT GOES TOWARDS THAT.

BUT WHEN THOSE ROADS GET IMPROVED DEPENDS ON JUST A PRIORITY THAT IS SET THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHETHER THAT ROAD IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE PAID. SO WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS ON A TWO LANE ROAD, LIKE SANDRA, I THINK IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE IMPORTANT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE PRECEDENT. I AM PROBABLY OVERSTEPPING MY BOUNDS HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT IF THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE INITIAL STAGES CONTINUE TO USING WHAT MR. GREINER SAID, THAT THE THE EDC AND THE CITY WILL FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT MORE OF A PRIORITY. BUT WITH THIS PROJECT, ALSO, WHO'S TO SAY THAT 18 WHEELERS MORTON WHEELERS WON'T BE COMING TO THIS SITE? YEAH, WE THAT'S THE APPLICANT. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONDITIONS AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY WAY TO ENFORCE THAT ANYWAY.

SO THEY'RE SAYING BOX TRUCKS AND AND THE WAY THE BUILDING AND THE SITE IS SET UP, IT'S NOT REALLY SET UP FOR 18 WHEELERS. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE AN OCCASIONAL 18 WHEELER, BUT WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT YOU WON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE AN LTL TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION CENTER WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SEEING ALL OF THAT SORT OF ACTIVITY, WHERE THEY'RE DROPPING OFF STUFF, SEPARATING THE CARGO, AND THE 18 WHEELERS ARE SPREADING OUT AND THEN TAKING OFF FROM THERE. MY CONCERN IS ALSO I SEE A LOT OF KNOCKOUT PANELS, NINE BY TEN AND SOME THE INCREASE IN THE 12 BY 14. SO IT MAKES ME THINK THAT THEY MAY HAVE TENANTS WITH 18 WHEELERS OR THAT'S MORE TRAFFIC. I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT IF THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. PERFECT. WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE LTL AS WELL, IF YOU'RE A MAJORITY OF YOUR USE IS DISTRIBUTOR, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE LINED UP RIGHT NEXT TO 78. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON A 635, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. SO EVEN IF THIS BUILDING WAS DESIGNED FOR THAT, THE COMPANIES WE WORK WITH, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO BE TURNING ON TO 78 VERSUS A SIX, 35, 35 OTHER HIGHWAYS. AND THEN THE DESIGN ON THAT IS IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL COMES DOWN TO COST. SO THERE IS ALREADY A BUILT IN A FEW I BELIEVE IT'S TWO RAMPS FOR THAT PROJECT. AND WHAT WE SEE A LOT OF THE TIMES IS YOU'LL HAVE A TENANT SAY, HEY, INSTEAD OF ONE RAMP, I NEED TWO RAMPS, OR I NEED THREE RAMPS TO DRIVE THOSE TRUCKS IN. IT'S JUST THEY WOULDN'T PROACTIVELY DO THAT JUST IN CASE A GROUP DOESN'T NEED IT. JUST THE SAME AS, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD OUT A 5000 FOOT OFFICE SPACE DAY ONE, IN CASE YOU COME IN AND TELL US, HEY, WE REALLY ONLY NEED 3000FT OF OFFICE, AND THEN WE JUST WASTED A LOT OF MONEY ON A 2000FT OF OFFICE THAT NO ONE'S GOING TO USE. THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 36FT TO THE TALLEST. YEAH, YEAH, THEY'RE USUALLY I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW, 36FT, TOP OF PANEL. USUALLY IT'S 32 TO 36. I DON'T SEE IT.

THIS ONE IS 36. WHY I GUESS WHY THE ELEVATION IS SO HIGH FOR THIS BUILDING. THAT'S TYPICAL IN AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING BECAUSE SOMETIMES GROUPS DO LIKE TO STACK. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD A LOCAL HVAC VENDOR LEASE OUT 15,000FT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THEIR PRODUCT STACKED IN THE SPACE, HVAC UNITS AND SUCH. AND SO THE TALLER THE BUILDING, THE MORE

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CAPABILITY THEY HAVE TO TO KEEP THEIR PRODUCT IN THE WAREHOUSE. BUT IF THEY WERE STACKING THE STYROFOAM COLUMN, LINE B AND GO BACK TO D, RIGHT? YES. AND THERE WOULD BE TO BE CLEAR, THERE WILL BE OFFICE IN EVERY TENANT WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF OFFICE. IT'S USUALLY 1,520%. I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED AS WELL FOR A LOT OF THE LOCAL GROUPS CATERING TO ALL THE ROOFTOPS. I WOULDN'T BE SHOCKED IF THERE'S A SHOWROOM COMPONENT ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR PRODUCT. SO.

BUT THERE WILL BE. YEAH, OFFICE AND THEN FROM OFFICE BACK WILL BE WOULD BE WAREHOUSE WITH THE DEMISING WALL. AND JUST ON CURIOSITY I SEE KNOCKOUT PANELS ON THE SIDE ELEVATION. WHAT ARE THESE FOR? THAT'S FOR STOREFRONTS IN THE FUTURE OR. YEAH. SORRY. WHICH WHERE ARE YOU? THIS IS THE. ELEVATIONS. YEAH. I NEED A BETTER. I NEED BETTER GLASSES. OH. RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, THOSE WOULD BE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. THOSE WOULD BE STOREFRONTS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A CLASS A 2000, 20, 26 OR 27 BY THE TIME IT'S BUILT BUILDING. SO IT'S IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE KIND OF HISTORICALLY THOUGHT OF AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. IT'S GOING TO BE NEW, NICE AND SHINY.

I'LL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN MIXED UP. SO WE PROBABLY. YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK IF WE NEED YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS. AGAIN. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. SINCE NOBODY IS, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. ANY.

THOUGHTS I, I KNOW SOMETIMES I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING AND PEOPLE SAY SOMETIMES WE DO THIS TO OUR DEMISE, BUT I DON'T DESIGN THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES. BUT IT DOES SEEM PRETTY SMALL TO TRY TO HAVE A BUNCH OF 18 WHEELERS IN THE BACK. SO I TEND TO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT BEING SOMEWHAT OF A TERMINAL IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I ALSO AGREE IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. SANDY BOULEVARD, TWO LANE. IT'S SMALL. AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE EXPANDED, BUT. I YOU KNOW, THEY THAT AREA IS BEING USED FOR THESE SAME THINGS RIGHT NOW EVEN ACROSS THE STREET. SO. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. ANYBODY ELSE CAN CHIME IN OBVIOUSLY. OR MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE. WE ACCEPT ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PRESENTED. MOTION A SECOND, SECOND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES 4 TO 1. AND JUST I KNOW I'VE ALREADY MOVED ON, BUT COMMISSIONER CHANDLER, IS THAT COMMENT GOING TO I GUESS, BE TALKED ABOUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, OR DID WE NEED TO HAVE PUT THAT IN SOMEWHERE? I'LL. WELL, THIS IS YOUR ROLE, BUT IF YOU'LL TAKE A QUICK, JUST A QUICK POLL OF ALL THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND IF THEY WANT ME TO CHAT WITH THE

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APPLICANT, I'LL DO THAT LIKE A FORMAL VOTE. NOPE, NOPE. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE, OKAY? YES OR NO? COMMISSIONER CHANDLER, IT'S A YES. YES, IT'S FINE WITH ME. I'M. YEAH. YES, YES OKAY, I WILL I WILL TALK TO HIM. I'LL WORK WITH HIM. OKAY. LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT. HOLD A PUBLIC

[5. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of two ordinances for a change in zoning from Planned Development 2020-27 (PD 2020-27) to Commercial Corridor & Planned Development - Townhouse District (CC & PD-TH) on 20.381 acres to allow for commercial and townhome development. Property located at 2535 & 2701 S State Highway 78 (ZC 2025- 19).]

HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF TWO ORDINANCES FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT 20 2227 PD 20 2227 TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT, TOWNHOME, TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT CC AND PD ON 20.381 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL AND TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 25, 35 AND 2701 SOUTH STATE HIGHWAY 78 ZC 2025 DASH 19 MR. MOLINA. OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST TO REZONE AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2020 AND WAS PLANNED TO BE A MIXED USE APARTMENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH A TOWNHOUSE COMPONENT. THAT DEVELOPMENT WAS NEVER COMPLETED AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD TO FORECLOSE THE PROPERTY, AND NOW IT HAS TWO PROPERTY OWNERS. SO ONE OF THE PROPERTIES IS WAS WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO BE. THAT'S THE APPLICANT THAT HAS APPLIED FOR THE ZONING REQUEST. WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO GET RID OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE SITE, AND JUST HAVE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ZONING SO THAT FUTURE MARKETING CAN SHOW IT AS THAT. AND IT'S NOT TIED TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF THE 20 2020. SO THE TOWNHOUSE PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAD TO BE PART OF THE ZONING CASE SINCE IT WAS CONCURRENT, IT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY HAD SOME CONCURRENT REQUIREMENTS WITH DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO TO JUST BE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND THE TOWNHOUSE PORTION TO TO HAVE A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS ALL THOSE PREEXISTING ALLOWANCES FROM 2020. SO THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. THEY EVEN HAVE AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT. YOU AREN'T GOING TO SEE A COMMERCIAL PLAN YET, BECAUSE THIS IS ALL THE INTENTION OF IT IS JUST FOR, FOR FOR MARKETING PURPOSES. SO YOU'LL SEE SITE PLANS COME IN LATER ON IF THIS IS APPROVED. WE DID MAIL OF FOUR NOTICE REQUESTS AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING BACK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION. AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PLAN AS IT'S IN THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SECTOR. THESE ARE JUST RENDERINGS OF THE TOWNHOUSE PORTION, BUT JUST KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT ISN'T PART OF THIS TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE MOSTLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT, RIGHT. SO YEAH. AND THEN THE THE PD, ALL IT IS IS WE GOT RID OF ALL THE TEXT AND LANGUAGE THAT MENTIONED THE COMMERCIAL TRACT, AND IT JUST KEEPS THE TOWNHOUSE ALLOWANCES. SO IF THIS IS APPROVED YOU'LL SEE TWO SEPARATE ZONINGS ONE WILL BE CC, THE OTHER ONE WILL BE THE PD ON THE BOTTOM PORTION. AND THEN THE APPLICANT'S HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY HAD A WORK SESSION WITH PNC. YEAH THEY DID. YES. SO YEAH. I'M THIS IS EASY TO DO A LITTLE CONFUSED. YEAH. SO YEAH. WHICH PART IS COMMERCIAL OKAY. SO YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S 2535. THAT'S COMMERCIAL. SO IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN HAD MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACK WITH COMMERCIAL PADS ALONG.

YEAH. THIS IS THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT FROM WAY BACK IN THE DAY THAT IT'S TURNED INTO THE MOUNTAINS OF WILEY. SO THE GROUP THAT INHERITED THROUGH FORECLOSURE, THE COMMERCIAL MULTI-TENANT PART IS JUST ASKING FOR STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ANYTHING THAT'S NORMALLY ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL. AND BECAUSE OF THE FORECLOSURE, THE TOWNHOME SECTION IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT OWNER, AND WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T REQUESTED IT. SO WE'RE JUST STRIPPING OUT THE MULTIFAMILY AND, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE COMPONENT TO GET THEM WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THEN LEAVING THE OTHER PART FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER THROUGH THAT ALSO INHERITED THROUGH

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FORECLOSURE THE ABILITY TO STILL DO WHAT THEY THE PROPERTY ALLOWS. AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS CLEAR AS MUD. MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE GO AHEAD, JOSHUA. WHAT'S THAT? MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE APPROVAL OF THIS IS THAT GETS US CLOSER, ONE STEP CLOSER TO DEALING WITH THE AMOUNT OF WILEY. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. ONE STEP CLOSER TO DEALING WITH THE WILEY. SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE SO THE WHOLE SPACE DEVELOPED THE TOWNHOME THING OKAY. YEAH. THE TOWNHOME THING. WE'RE JUST SPLITTING IT. WE'RE NOT VOTING TO APPROVE TOWNHOMES. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. YES. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS VOTING TO LEAVE IT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2020. OKAY. AND TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE VOTING TO UNDO A CHANGE THAT HAPPENED BEFORE. YES. OKAY. WE WE TRIED TO GET THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE SITUATION, BUT THEY JUST WEREN'T WILLING AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE HAD IN CONTACT WITH THEM. THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY JUST AREN'T INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST JUST LEAVING IT AS IS.

BRINGS BACK A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. WE GOTTA DO A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? IF I UNDERSTAND IT, I KNOW EVERYONE ELSE DOES. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT. THANK YOU, MR. MOLINA.

OKAY, NOW MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM AGAIN. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, THE MORE WELCOME TO. AND SINCE NO ONE'S GETTING UP, WE'LL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND IT NOW. WE'RE JUST SPLITTING THE ZONING. NOTHING'S CHANGING. CORRECT? OKAY. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

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OKAY. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON FIFTH, SIXTH. SIXTH. FIRST TUESDAY SIXTH. YES. THERE WILL BE A MEETING. AND THAT STARTS AT SIX. YES. CENTRAL STANDARD TIME. YES OKAY. THANK YOU. JOSH? YEAH. JANUARY 6TH. YEAH. JANUARY 2622. OKAY. SO AND JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE 20TH YET. YEAH THAT'S A TUESDAY. THANK YOU. TUESDAY I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT.

THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU THIS YEAR AND LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR. AND EVERYBODY HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. SAME TO YOU. I THOUGHT YOU WERE QUITTING OR SOMETHING. OH, GOD. NO. OKAY. WELL, WE CLOSE THE MEETING. I'LL SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE. GABRIELA, GO.

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