Dec 09, 2025 City Council & Work Session

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CALL TO ORDER THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6:01 P.M. WE DO ASK IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE ENSURE THAT IT IS EITHER SET TO VIBRATE OR TURNED OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL WHICH YOU NEED TO TAKE, WE'D ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE OUR JUNIOR MAYOR UP HERE WITH US TODAY. SEE, LOOK YOU GET YOU GET SO MUCH MORE CHEERING THAN I DO. SO WE WILL BE HAVING HER ASSIST US STARTING OFF TODAY. AND WITH THAT, MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL? YES, MAYOR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER, PRESENT. JUNIOR MAYOR MACY LAY PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN DAVID R DUKE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN TODD PICKENS, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. PRESENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM GINO MILICI PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM.

AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, WHICH I WILL LEAD. FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE LED BY OUR JUNIOR MAYOR. LET ME START WITH THIS PLEDGE. OKAY. DEAR LORD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE BESTOWED UPON US. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO SERVE OUR CITY DAY IN AND DAY OUT, IN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHO TAKE TIME OUT FROM THEIR FAMILY DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF US ARE SAFE. WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR HAND OF PROTECTION UPON THEM, AND ALSO ASK FOR THAT HAND OF PROTECTION UPON THOSE WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY TO GIVE US THE FREEDOM TO HAVE GATHERINGS SUCH AS THIS AND TO HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR WISDOM TO THIS COUNCIL, AS WE DO OUR BEST TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY OF WYLIE. LORD. FINALLY, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THOSE DURING THIS SEASON WHO MAY BE IN NEED. ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO HAVE PLENTY TO REACH OUT AND FIND A WAY TO HELP THOSE WHO MAY BE IN NEED. AND LET US NEVER FORGET THE TRUE REASON FOR THE SEASON AND THE BIGGEST GIFT OF ALL YOUR SON, CHRIST. IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AND NOW. NOW, IF YOU'LL TURN, YOU CAN START THE PLEDGE FOR US. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE BE SEATED. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR FIRST SECTION OF THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH

[PR1. Junior Mayor for the Day - Emily Lay. ]

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OKAY. WHEREAS MACY LAY HAS THE PRIVILEGE TO BE HONORARY MAYOR FOR THE DAY IN THE CITY OF WYLIE AND EXPERIENCE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR BY JOINING MAYOR PORTER AND THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE DAIS FOR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND WHEREAS MACY LAY EARNED THE RIGHT TO BE MAYOR FOR THE DAY THROUGH HER SUPPORT OF THE WYLIE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, DODD ELEMENTARY PARENT TEACHER ASSOCIATION. AND WHEREAS, MACY LAY IS A PROUD DODD DINO SECOND GRADER WHO ENJOYS HER CLASSES AND FELLOW STUDENTS. AND WHEREAS MACY LAY LOVES PLAYING SOCCER, ROLLER SKATING WITH FRIENDS, AND PLAYING WITH HER SISTERS. AND WHEREAS MACY LAY IS A STUDENT TODAY AND A LEADER OF TOMORROW IN RECOGNITION, THEREFORE, I, MATTHEW O. PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS. ON THIS THE NINTH DAY OF DECEMBER 2025, AM HONORED TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION IN RECOGNITION OF BEING MAYOR FOR THE DAY TO MACY LAY. CONGRATULATIONS! I HOLD THAT UP. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. YES, GREAT.

[PR2. Eagle Scouts - Ronan Herrick and Jacob Crabtrey. ]

WE HAD A WORK TEAM OF ABOUT, I THINK IT WAS 12 SCOUTS AND TOOK US ABOUT EIGHT HOURS. IT'S VERY FUN. OKAY, OKAY. AND WHAT DID YOU DO IN ORDER TO GET THE SUPPLIES THAT YOU NEEDED? WE WENT TO HOME DEPOT AND BOUGHT THEM. DID YOU RAISE MONEY? YES, YES WE DID. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT IS RAISING THE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. SO YES, WE WENT TO HOME DEPOT, BUT HE HAD TO SPEND THE TIME RAISING THE FUNDS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE PROJECT IN MOTION. SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SOMEONE HANDING YOU SOME SUPPLIES AND VOLUNTEERING FOR A FEW HOURS. YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO BE PLUGGED IN. YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO FUNDRAISE. YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS OF THE PROJECT, WHICH I KNOW IS ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT IS DESIRED WHENEVER YOU ARE COMPLETING A PROJECT TO BECOME ELIGIBLE TO BE AN EAGLE SCOUT. AND I KNOW IN LOOKING OUT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND ONE IN PARTICULAR WHO WILL PROBABLY BE PICKING YOUR BRAIN OR SUGGESTING MAYBE SOME OTHER SCOUTS IN THE FUTURE HELP WITH A DIFFERENT LOCATION HERE IN TOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW OF

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AND WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU. SO I'LL ASK YOU TO TO BOTH STEP OUT. I'LL HAVE YOU HOLD THE BACK END. AND IF YOU'LL HOLD THE SIDE THERE AND I'LL READ. I JUST GOT TO GET WHERE I CAN SEE IT IN THE LIGHT. WHEREAS RONIN K HERRICK HAS EARNED THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT BY SCOUTING AMERICA. AND WHEREAS THE CONFERRING OF AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST HONORS BESTOWED UPON A SCOUT. AND WHEREAS LESS THAN 5% OF ALL SCOUTS ATTAIN THIS GOAL, AND WHEREAS, THIS ACHIEVEMENT CARRIES WITH IT GREAT HONOR AND A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND TO SERVE AS A GUIDE AND A ROLE MODEL FOR BOTH COMMUNITY AND NATION. AND WHEREAS SUCH AN AWARD IS EARNED IN THAT THE RECIPIENT MUST PERFORM AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE AND PASS RIGID REQUIREMENTS EXACTED TO ACHIEVE THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD.

AND WHEREAS RONIN K HERRICK'S EAGLE SCOUT SERVICE PROJECT WAS TO REVITALIZE AND BEAUTIFY THE FLOWER BEDS AT THE DECATUR MAXWELL MURPHY CEMETERY, HONORING ALL THAT HAVE BEEN LAID TO REST SINCE 1853. IN RECOGNITION, THEREFORE, I. MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, HEREBY CONGRATULATE RONIN K HERRICK FOR HAVING AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD CONFERRED UPON HIM BY SCOUTING AMERICA, AND PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO RONIN K HERRICK ON THIS, THE NINTH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2025. IN HONOR OF THIS ACHIEVEMENT OF ATTAINING THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT, CONGRATULATIONS.

MOM AND DAD. IT'S ONLY A COUPLE HOUR MEETING. YOU'LL BE OKAY, RIGHT? OH, NO.

SHE WANTED TO STAY. YEAH. TAKE CARE. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR PRESENTATION AND RECOGNITIONS. WE DID HAVE ANOTHER LISTED ON THE AGENDA. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WEREN'T

[COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS ]

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[CONSENT AGENDA ]

MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO PULL FOR CONSIDERATION OF DISCUSSION ITEM. BEAR WITH ME. IT'S GOING TO BE ITEM D OKAY. ITEM D YES, THE EDC CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE SO UNDER CONSENT WE HAVE ASKED TO PULL ITEM D COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER ITEMS. WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS ON. AND IF THERE ARE NONE I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE REMAINING ITEMS OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS A THROUGH C AND E F G H I J OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF D. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCIL COUNCILMAN? DUKE, YOU'RE STILL BUZZED IN FOR COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND. AS STATED. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION

[D. Consider, and place on file, the monthly Revenue and Expenditure Report for the Wylie Economic Development Corporation as of October 31, 2025. ]

I JUST WANTED TO GET IT ON RECORD. FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING. THE DEFICIT THAT IS LISTED OF THE 1.9 MILLION. I KNOW WHAT THAT IS PROBABLY CONNECTED TO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT. JUST SO IF SOMEONE LOOKS AT IT AT A GLANCE, THEY'VE GOT AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THAT WOULD BE THAT WAY. SO THE DEFICIT OF 1.9 MILLION WITH REGARD TO WHAT EXACTLY? I'M SORRY, SIR. IT'S OKAY. IN REGARDS TO THE TOTAL BUDGET. SO YOU'RE TALKING REVENUE OVER 8.3 TEN. REVENUE OVER EXPENSES. HE'S HE'S LOOKING AT THE VERY BOTTOM LINE FOR YOU ON THAT. SO HE'S JUST ASKING IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO. THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE. SO I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS. BUT I WE HAVE THE 8.3 IN REVENUE AND 10 IN 10 POINT THREE IN EXPENSES THIS YEAR. SO HE WAS JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD POINT TO THAT. I MEAN, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THAT'S THAT THE CUT OFF DATE FOR THE FOR THE BOOKS, THAT THE FUNDING WAS AFTER THAT. OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THAT SPECIFICALLY WITHOUT ME LOOKING AT THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. BUT THE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REVENUE EXPENSES IS GOING TO BE JUST OUR ENDING FUND BALANCE. CORRECT. IS THAT THE VARIANCE BETWEEN I MEAN, I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AT ORIGINAL VERSUS CURRENT. SO.

MR. GREINER, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SENDING THIS TO YOU. EARLIER TODAY. I WAS RUNNING RUNNING TIGHT REVIEWING THINGS. SO I KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK AT IT HAD I SENT IT TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME. SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THAT IT'S STILL MATCHING WHAT THE BUDGET ORIGINALLY PLANNED. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE THIS IS THROUGH THIS IS OCTOBER, RIGHT. AND SO THAT WAS THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST. WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT IT ENDED UP BEING IS THE FUNDING MECHANISM THAT WAS USED ROLLED IN AFTER

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WHEN I SAY THIS LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE. THAT'S JUST THE PROJECTED BUDGET FOR ALL 12 MONTHS. THE THIRD COLUMN PERIOD ACTIVITY IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAS HAPPENED SO FAR. THAT'S HIS TOTAL BUDGET THROUGH THE END OF 26. THAT'S THE ISSUE. I'M SORRY I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS 2526. I WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS 2425. AND I WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS LAST OCTOBER'S CLOSING REPORT BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE FISCAL YEAR, SO I APOLOGIZE.

THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEIR FISCAL YEAR ENDS THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO THAT WAS JUST THE FIRST MONTH OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. SOME OF THE SAME QUESTION WE HAD DURING BUDGET AND SAME SAME THING. SO OUR PROJECTED REVENUE EXPENSES, WE HAD CASH BALANCE OF THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND I WAS THINKING THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. BUT I WAS THINKING THAT THIS WAS THE ACTUAL RATHER THAN THE BUDGET, AND THAT THE VARIANCE ENDED UP BEING AN ACTUAL. AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING, HEY, WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TO GET THE CITY GOING AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. AND IT'S AND YOU'RE CORRECT, IT'S A CARRYOVER FROM LAST YEAR OF UNSPENT CASH THAT THEY HAVE ON HAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NOW USE THIS YEAR. YOU'RE CORRECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. IF NO ONE ELSE HAS A QUESTION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION NOW. SURE. I'D BE OPEN TO THAT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM D AS PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN PICKENS? SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. BEFORE WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE THIS EVENING AND GET INTO DISCUSSIONS ON OUR POTENTIAL CITY ENGINEERING FIRM CONTRACT. MISS JUNIOR MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO STEP DOWN AND HEAD HOME? I THINK THEY'RE READY FOR YOU. GOOD JOB. SHE NEEDS A RAISE. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY. DO I GET TO LEAVE AS WELL? I THINK SHE WOULD HAVE STAYED. I THINK MOM AND DAD ARE READY TO GET HER HOME. YEAH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE THIS

[1. Consider, and act upon, the award of contract W2026-02 for City Engineering Firm Plan Review Services to Cobb Fendley in the estimated amount of $150,000.00 and authorizing the City Manager to execute any and all necessary documents.]

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THIS AWARD WILL ESTABLISH AN ANNUAL CONTRACT WITH RENEWAL'S THAT WILL NOT EXCEED $150,000 A YEAR, AND WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. OKAY, I KNOW THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS ONE, BUT BEFORE HE DOES, I HAD SOMETHING POP UP. JUST FROM WHAT YOU HAD SAID THAT I WANTED TO ASK. IT MAY BE YOU, IT MAY BE MR. PARKER FOR THE ANNUAL RENEWALS, WILL THOSE JUST COME THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE THOSE COMING TO COUNCIL? ARE THEY OPT OUT OR ARE THEY NEW CONTRACTS? I GUESS SO, YEAH. SO IT'S A ONE YEAR IT'S A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. THIS THIS YEAR'S CONTRACT WOULD BE ROUGHLY NINE MONTHS. IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED ON NEXT BUDGET THEN WE HAVE A 30 DAY OUT. OKAY. BUT IT WOULD BE BUDGET. THEN IT'S IT'S MORE OF AN EVERGREEN WHERE SOMEONE HAS TO OPT OUT. IT'S NOT AN EVERGREEN. SO IT'S NOT AUTO RENEWED. OKAY. SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEND A CONTRACT AMENDMENT TO GO TO THE NEXT YEAR. OKAY. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL REQUIRE, SO TO SPEAK, COUNCIL APPROVAL ONCE YOU APPROVE IT. NOW I THINK THE AGENDA SAYS ONE YEAR AND WITH THREE ADDITIONAL RENEWALS. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL. BUT IT WOULD IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY LET US GET A FIRM FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WHEREAS IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WHAT IS THE OUT CLAUSE. YOU SAID 30 DAYS I BELIEVE. YEAH 30 DAYS. SO WE CAN WE CAN CANCEL FOR CALLS AT ANY POINT OKAY. JUST GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE OKAY. SO THAT HELPS APPRECIATE THAT.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR TOMMY AND CHRIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS OVER TO US. I THINK IT'S OVERDUE WITH OUR ENGINEERING AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF QUALIFYING THE FIRMS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED PLANS ARE THE RFP BACK AND WHY COBB WAS THE TOP CHOICE? WHAT KIND OF SEPARATED THEM FROM THE PACK FROM WHAT WE RECEIVED. SO WE ONCE WE GO OUT TO RFQ, WE HAVE SET QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE THE PROPOSAL PACKET. I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

BUT EVERYBODY STARTS AT THE SAME I GUESS IT'S THE SAME START. AND ONCE THEY QUALIFY THEY USUALLY START. LET'S SAY EVERYBODY STARTS LIKE IT'S 30% FOR REFERENCES. THEY START IN THE MIDDLE, THEY GO UP AND DOWN FROM THERE. SO LET'S SAY TOMMY LIKES THE REFERENCES. HE SCORED HIGHER BASED ON WHAT THEY PROVIDED. THE OTHER ONES ALSO SCORES. SO THERE'S THREE THERE'S THREE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SO THERE WAS TOMMY AND TWO ADDITIONAL. SO THEY SCORE THEM BASED ON THE WEIGHT OF THE POINTS THAT THEY WERE PROVIDED WITHIN THE QUALIFICATION. OKAY.

THAT MADE SENSE. BUT SO WE HAVE A TEAM THAT LOOKS AT THREE A TEAM OF THREE OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN DO YOU SCORE THEM BASED ON THE REFERENCES THEY REFERENCES QUALIFICATIONS. AND I THINK PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE OKAY. WHAT STOOD OUT FOR COBB FROM PREVIOUS FROM THE OTHER FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED RFP. I WOULD SAY I CAN GO BACK AND GET YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE I, I HAVE IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN IN THE IN THE REVIEW PACKET. OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I MEAN, THE TOP THREE WERE WITHIN A POINT, TOP TWO POINT. SO THERE WAS REALLY THREE THAT REALLY STUCK OUT.

OKAY. OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHY I CHOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER. OKAY.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO CONTINUE MY LINE OF QUESTIONING AND THEN I'LL HAND OUT THE TIME. SO YOU SAID TEN DAYS. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S TEN BUSINESS DAYS. YEAH. I'M SORRY. YES, TEN, TEN BUSINESS DAYS. OKAY. IF A PLAN IS REVIEWED AND AND FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS IS COMING BACK, DO THEY HAVE TEN DAYS ON TOP OF THE FIRST TEN DAYS TO GET BACK TO THE FIRST COMMENTS? SO YES.

SO THEY DO HAVE EVERY TIME WE TURN SOMETHING OVER TO THEM, THEY DO HAVE A TEN DAY, TEN WORKING DAY. WELL THE SAME ENGINEER WORK ON IF I'M SUBMITTING A PLAN TO THE CITY AND THE CITY SENDING IT TO THEM FOR ENGINEERING APPROVAL AND FEEDBACK AND WHATNOT. IS THE SAME PROJECT MANAGER WORKING ON THE SAME PROJECT OR WILL IT BE FIRST AVAILABLE ASSIGNED PROJECT MANAGER WITHIN NOT PROJECT MANAGER? I APOLOGIZE ENGINEER WITHIN THAT FIRM THAT

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UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT STARTS OUT AS WHAT WE FEEL AS A, AS A NORMAL REVIEW AND IT TURNS INTO THAT, IT'S EXTENSIVE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS. IT MIGHT BE HANDED OFF TO SOMEBODY ON THEIR TEAM THAT THAT HANDLES DRAINAGE. THAT'S THAT THAT'S THEIR SPECIALTY OKAY. BUT MEANING THAT THE FIRST PERSON THAT HAS REVIEWED THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE FIRST QUESTIONS ARE ARE COMING BACK NOW WE'RE GOING GOING BACK AND GETTING REVIEWED.

SOMEONE ELSE IS NOT TAKING OVER THAT PROJECT PROJECT AND KIND OF CREATING NEW COMMENTS FOR WHATEVER THEY THINK. NOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE FIRST ENGINEER LOOKED AT IT. CORRECT.

IT'LL GO IT'LL GO BACK TO THAT SAME PERSON. OKAY. AND THEN HOW BIG IS THIS FIRM AND WHAT CITIES DO THEY WORK WITH? I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. DO YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING? AND SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE SENT MAYBE THESE QUESTIONS, BUT.

HAVE WE CHECKED WITH ANY OF THE CITIES THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH AND DONE WORK WITH? HAVE WE CHECKED THEIR REFERENCES ABOUT HOW FAST THEIR TURNAROUND IS, THE TYPE OF WORK AND ALL THAT? I KNOW ONE CITY, ONE TOWN THAT THEY DO HAVE, THAT THEY DO WORK WITH. WE HAVE CHECKED, WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR TURNAROUND TIME. THEY THEY MEET OR BEAT IT EVERY TIME, OKAY. AND THEY DO WORK FOR SOME TOWNS AROUND. THEY WORK WITH THE TOWN OF ADDISON. SO THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO US. WE HAVE USED THEM PREVIOUSLY ON THE MAPS CONTRACT. WE USED THEM PREVIOUSLY. YOU SAID, WELL, I DON'T KNOW. THEY'VE BEEN PRE-QUALIFIED PRIOR ON A CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE USED THEM PREVIOUSLY, BUT THEY WERE PRE-QUALIFIED ON THE PREVIOUS MAPS CONTRACT, WHICH WAS A IT WAS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE POOL THAT WE ACTUALLY TAP INTO AND SEND PRE-QUALIFICATION OUT TO, SAY, A FIRM THAT'S PRE AWARDED IN THE CATEGORY, BUT THEY WERE PRE-QUALIFIED ON CERTAIN AREAS OF THAT CONTRACT. OKAY. AND I KNOW WHEN BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED. YOU KNOW THEY WHAT THEY WOULD COVER. SO DO THEY HAVE THE IN-HOUSE ENGINEERS FOR ALL THESE TRADES MEANING FLOODPLAIN TRAFFIC STUDIES ALL THAT. DO THEY HAVE THE IN-HOUSE WORK OR DO THEY HAVE TO SEND IT OUTSIDE TO A DIFFERENT FIRM AND THEN GET IT BACK? NO, THIS IS ALL ALL IN-HOUSE, TOO CONFIDENTLY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MAYOR. OKAY. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS WOULD SEND AN EMAIL THROUGH BRANT FOLLOW UPS. OKAY? OKAY. SO I THINK I THINK THAT COVERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. AND I SENT SOME TO MR. PARKER IN ADVANCE. AND SAME ANSWERS AS FAR AS TURNAROUND TIME THINGS AND POINTS OF CONTACT GOING BACK AND FORTH, BECAUSE I KNOW FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT UP, WAS ONE OF THE BIG ONES, WAS SENDING A PROJECT OVER, GETTING COMMENTS, AND THEN IT GOES BACK TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO PUTS DIFFERENT COMMENTS THAT WEREN'T IDENTIFIED THE FIRST TIME. SO YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND GET A WHOLE NEW SET OF COMMENTS BACK, RATHER THAN FEELING YOU'RE GETTING ACROSS THE LINE. SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. IT WOULD BE A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, AND I UNDERSTAND CERTAIN PROJECTS MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE LOOKING AT STUFF, BUT IT WON'T BE THREE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE ENGINEERS. EVERY TIME THAT YOU SEND A RESPONSE AND THINK YOU FIXED IT, THEN YOU GET SOMEONE WITH DIFFERENT WHO LOOKS AT IT DIFFERENTLY AND GOES, WELL, ACTUALLY, I'D RATHER YOU LOOK AT THIS INSTEAD OF THAT. AND IT DELAYS PROJECTS EXTENSIVELY THEN. SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN ONES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMAN PICKENS QUESTIONS. YEAH, I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. WHO WROTE THE CONTRACT.

WHAT'S THAT? WHO WROTE THE CONTRACT? THE CONTRACT THAT THE CONTRACT TEMPLATE THAT WAS SENT TO CONTRACT DRAFT. THAT WAS WRITTEN BY ABERNATHY. NOW THE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, SCOPE OF WORK TYPE OF DEAL THAT WE SEND OUT TO THE VENDORS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED ON THE LAST RFQ WE SENT OUT FOR THIS SAME SERVICE. OKAY. SO THIS CONTRACT THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO THEM IS A DRAFT WAS WRITTEN BY ABERNATHY. WHEN WAS IT WRITTEN? I WANT TO SAY 2019 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT WAS LAST USED. AND I SENT ABERNATHY CONTRACT TO REVIEW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL SUFFICIENT WITHIN THE SAME CONTRACT. I SENT IT TO

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SO YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT ALL THE WORK WILL BE DONE COMPLETELY IN-HOUSE. THE CONTRACT STATES THAT THEY CAN HIRE SUBS IN MULTIPLE OTHER ENTITIES TO DO THE WORK. DO WE WANT THAT IN THE CONTRACT? IF WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO DO IT ALL IN-HOUSE? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO BECAUSE IF THEY USE SUBS, OF COURSE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SUBS ARE ABLE TO DO THE WORK WELL. DO YOU WANT SUBS OR DO YOU WANT IT ALL DONE IN-HOUSE? SO WE WOULD WE WOULD PREFER EVERYTHING TO BE DONE IN-HOUSE. AND YOU NEED THE SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT IN THE CONTRACT I WOULD THINK I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND IF WE NEED TO REMOVE THAT, I GET WITH ABERNATHY TO SEE IF WE CAN REMOVE IT. OKAY. THAT WAS JUST STANDARD LANGUAGE WITHIN THAT CONTRACT. OKAY. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO LATER THAN TEN DAYS FOR ANY JOB THAT IS SUBMITTED TO THEM TO BE RETURNED. I DIDN'T SEE THAT WORDING ANYWHERE IN THE CONTRACT OR ANY TYPE OF LIMITATION ON HOW LONG THEY CAN TAKE TO RESPOND. SO WITHIN ABERNATHY SENT THEIR STATEMENT OF WORK AND WITHIN THEIR STATEMENT OF WORK IT STATES TEN DAYS. SO THAT STATEMENT OF WORK WILL BE IT WILL BE WITHIN THE CONTRACT DOCUMENT. SO WHATEVER'S LET'S SAY IT WAS EXHIBIT B, JUST FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME EXHIBIT B WOULD BE PART OF THE CONTRACT. SO WHAT DO THEY SEND US? THE STATES TEN DAYS. THAT WOULD NOW BE PART OF THE CONTRACT OKAY. SO THAT WILL BE PLACED IN THE CONTRACT THAT'S UNDER DRAFT. CORRECT OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE EXHIBITS. SO ONCE THAT CONTRACT IS FULLY EXECUTED ALL THE EXHIBITS ARE WITH THAT CONTRACT OKAY. YEAH. AND THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO IT. AND Y'ALL ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLING THAT A STATEMENT OF WORK. OR IS THAT JUST CALL IT A STATEMENT OF WORK. BUT THEY CALLED IT IT CAN BE A STATEMENT OF WORK. IT'D BE, IT COULD BE. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT STATEMENTS OF WORK ARE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNED ME WAS THE TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THE CONTRACT. WE ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS NOTICE, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE TO GIVE US 2 TO 5 DAYS. OKAY. THAT SEEMS TO FAVOR THE ENGINEERING COMPANY MORE THAN THE CITY WHERE THE STATE 2 TO 5 DAYS WITHIN OUR CONTRACT DOCS. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. YEAH, IN MY OPINION, THAT SHOULD BE EQUAL. OKAY.

ESPECIALLY FROM OUR STANDPOINT, IF THEY TERMINATED THEIR CONTRACT WITH US, THEN WE'RE STUCK. WE DON'T HAVE 30 DAYS OF CUSHION TO GO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO DO THE WORK. OKAY, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND I'LL MAKE SURE WE OKAY. YEAH. SO WHAT? I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT THIS WAS JUST ME BRIEFLY LOOKING THROUGH THE CONTRACT AND FINDING THREE RED FLAGS, IN MY OPINION, THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS CONTRACT IN GREAT DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THERE NOW FROM 2019 IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING FROM THAT ENGINEERING FIRM, THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT GIVES THEM WIGGLE ROOM TO. TO OPERATE IN A WAY WE DON'T WANT THEM TO. OKAY.

BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT JUST THIS BEING LEFT IN THAT CONTRACT, THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. THAT PUTS US IN A HOLE. OKAY, I'LL I'LL ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL SEND IT BACK TO ABERNATHY. OKAY. AND HIGHLIGHT THOSE CONCERNS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN GET BACK FROM THEM. YEAH. AND IF YOU DO HAVE A STATEMENT OF WORK TYPE DOCUMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M USED TO FROM MY ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE IS WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT WE GO OUT AND HIRE AN ENGINEERING FIRM. AND THEN THE STATEMENT OF WORK THAT USUALLY I'VE WRITTEN THAT GOES ALONG WITH, THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT FROM YOU AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO BUSINESS. AND, AND ONE OTHER THING THAT JUST CAME TO MIND, THE CAD SECTION SAID, WHATEVER IS INDUSTRY STANDARD, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT READS CERTAIN FILES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THEM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SYSTEMS THAT WE PAID FOR AND CAN READ THOSE. IF NOT, AND THEY DELIVER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T READ. IT'S IT'S NOT ON THEM. THEY THEY DID INDUSTRY STANDARD. OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST A FEW THINGS. THANK YOU. OKAY. MISTER PARKER, BEFORE I KNOW COUNCILMAN STRAIN HAS SOME MAY HAVE A QUESTION, BUT MISTER PARKER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK FOR THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AND NOT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE MAJORITY TO LOOK INTO THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT CHASING SEVEN DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS. OKAY. I'LL TAKE I THINK I'VE GOT EVERYTHING CAPTURED HERE AS WELL AS THE GENERAL SENTIMENT. SO I'LL LET EVERYONE MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO WEIGH IN WITH QUESTIONS, CONCERNS OR ANY CHANGES. AND THEN I'LL PUT THOSE FORWARD TO

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AND THEN I THINK YOU, COUNCILMAN PICKENS AND STRING, BOTH ESSENTIALLY BROUGHT UP MAKING SURE THAT THE FILE DELIVERY SYSTEM THAT THEY USE IS ONE THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WILEY ALREADY HAS IN PLACE. AND I'LL JUST I'LL JUST START DOWN HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THOSE? DO YOU WANT ANY OF THOSE NOT INCLUDED. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION? THOSE ARE FINE WITH ME, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO MY LINE OF QUESTIONING IN TERMS OF REFERENCES, IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S THEY WORK WITH? HOW BIG IS THE COMPANY KIND OF GET THAT? YEAH, I JUST WASN'T GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME ONES, SO. OH, YOU WERE I ASSUME. YES. OKAY. I ASSUME THAT YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME OPINION ON THOSE SINCE YOU STATED. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, IF I MAY. HOW DID WE GET TO THE $150,000 NUMBER? IS THAT BASED ON THE EXPECTED WORK THAT WE EXPECT TO DO WITH THE WITH THE FIRM, OR HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? THAT'S I DON'T KNOW. SO I'M ASKING I APOLOGIZE. SO I BELIEVE THE LAST CONTRACT WAS 100,000 AS WE WENT INTO 2019, THE ONE FROM 2019 TO THROUGH SEPTEMBER. AS THIS YEAR WE'VE WE LOST OUR THE PE THAT WE HAD ON STAFF HAD MOVED ON. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE MAY BE UTILIZE THIS A FIRM A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S WHY WE WE HAD IT UP AT 150,000. OKAY. AND ARE THE CHARGES IN TERMS OF WHAT THE FIRMS CHARGE THE CITY? I GUESS PER PROJECT, I'M ASSUMING IT IS. ARE THEY VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER FIRMS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED OR ARE THEY MOSTLY I THINK HE'S ASKING IS THE PRICING MODEL COMPETITIVE BETWEEN THEM? AND I THINK THE PRICING MODEL IS ACTUALLY I BELIEVE IT'S CHEAPER THAN OUR LAST CONTRACT. OKAY. WHEN WE GO TO THE RFQ, IT'S BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS. SO WE KIND OF ASK FOR PRICING FROM THE OTHER FIRMS. SO WE HAVE TO START WITH THE TOP FIRM. IF WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE A FAIR AND REASONABLE PRICE, THEN WE STOP IT, THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT. THEN WE ASK FOR SCOPE AND PRICING AGAIN. SO THERE'S THERE'S A COUPLE OF STEPS YOU HAVE TO DO BEFORE YOU GET TO PRICING OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN HOOVER YOU GET EXTRA QUESTIONS. SO THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAD ASKED ABOUT GETTING I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CONTRACT AS WELL AS WELL AS THE STATEMENT. SO IT'S THE CONTRACT GETTING A COPY OF THE CONTRACT STATEMENT OF WORK SENT OUT THAT'S BEEN ASKED. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WERE ASKING AS WELL ABOUT WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ASK THE DIFFERENCE FROM THIS FIRM TO THE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE WHAT THEY CAN LEGALLY GIVE US ON ON THE WHATEVER? YEAH, WHATEVER WHAT BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT THEY DEVELOPED AND WHAT SEPARATED THIS FIRM FROM THE OTHER, AND THEN REFERENCES ON THE FIRM AS FAR AND AS WELL AS THE CITIES THAT THIS FIRM WORKED AND HOW BIG IS THE FIRM? OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE'S LISTENING. SO WE HAVE IT'S JUST A LOT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT ALL.

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COUNCILMAN STRING, I KNOW YOU HAD WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION SO I WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT AT THIS TIME. NO, NO, THIS IS THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. NO. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. HOW LONG WOULD THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THE FIRST MEETING OF JANUARY BE ENOUGH TIME OR WOULD IT TAKE A LITTLE LONGER? I SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THEREFORE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL OUR JANUARY 13TH MEETING IN 2026.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL THE JANUARY 13TH, 2026 MEETING. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN DUKE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO TABLE UNTIL JANUARY 13TH, 2026. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE AND THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SO WE'LL REVISIT WITH THIS WITH YOU ALL IN JANUARY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR REGULAR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING.

[WS1. Discuss the relocation and restoration of the Historic Stonehaven House. ]

THERE YOU GO. SO I'LL TURN IT TO YOU. OKAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'M ABOUT TO MAKE THIS BIGGER.

SO FIRST, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN KIND OF BRING YOU TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND HOW WE GOT HERE. SO THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE, THE PERIOD OF PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE HOUSE IS 1912 TO 1931. IT WAS BUILT AND OCCUPIED BY WILLIAM AND CHARLOTTE STONE. NO SIGNIFICANT WORK HAS BEEN DONE TO THE HOUSE SINCE IT WAS RELOCATED JUST ROUGHLY 400FT NORTH, AND THAT WAS DONE IN 2017 TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE WIDENING OF ALLEN'S.

SINCE 2015, THE CITY HAS HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WYLIE HISTORIC SOCIETY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP OF THE HOUSE. HOWEVER, STATE LAW PROHIBITS A MUNICIPALITY FROM SELLING OR DONATING A PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT SITS ON DEDICATED PARKLAND. SO WHEN STONE RANCH SUBDIVISION WAS DEVELOPED, THE PROPERTY WHERE THE HOUSE SITS WAS DEDICATED TO THE CITY AS PUBLIC PARK. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST DONATING OR SELLING THE PROPERTY TO THE HISTORIC SOCIETY. FAST FORWARD MAY 9TH. WE WERE CONTACTED BY PRESERVATION TEXAS TO DISCUSS THEIR DESIRE TO NOMINATE THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE FOR INCLUSION INTO THEIR 2025 MOST ENDANGERED PLACES LIST. THAT LIST WAS ANNOUNCED ON MAY 15TH, AND THE HOUSE WAS INCLUDED IN THAT LIST. AND THE OBJECTIVE FOR THAT LIST IS TO SHOWCASE THE PROPERTY AND INCREASE VISIBILITY TO FACILITATE A SOLUTION TO SAVE AND REUSE THE PROPERTY. ON MAY 19TH, WE WERE CONTACTED BY MR. JAMES PRIVET, ASKING IF THERE WERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO GET INVOLVED AND TO SUPPORT THE PRESERVATION AND LONG TERM USE OF THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE. SO IT IS MY BELIEF THAT WITH PRESERVATION TEXAS REACHING OUT TO US AND LISTING THE HOUSE, IT INDEED ACCOMPLISHED THAT GOAL AND THAT OBJECTIVE TO GET MORE EYES, MORE VISIBILITY FOR THE PROPERTY. SO HERE WE ARE, TWO ENTITIES THAT WILL PRESENT TO YOU THEIR VISION ON RESTORING THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE TO ITS HISTORIC GRANDEUR. THE HISTORIC SOCIETY, THE WYLIE HISTORIC SOCIETY AND PRESERVATIONIST JAMES PRIVETT. SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, OR WE CAN GO RIGHT INTO THE FIRST PRESENTATION BY THE WYLIE HISTORIC SOCIETY. I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE

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I'M ALEXIS TAPP WITH THE WYLIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, FORMED IN 2011. I LIVE AT 3713 CAREY LANE 75 098. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE STONEHAVEN PROJECT. YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH A FEW OF OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS. JOHN LEWIS WAS FORMER PRESIDENT DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY, RACHEL OROZCO AS SECRETARY, AND OUR DEARLY DEPARTED VP WAS BOB HEATH, SENIOR MISS RENEE ALLEY AND BILL LEWIS OF THE BIRMINGHAM TRUST WERE AMONG OUR FIRST DIRECTORS. SO IT WAS PROMINENT PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAVING THE HOUSE.

THIS PROJECT MAY BE NEW TO SOME ON COUNCIL, BUT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A LONG JOURNEY AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC LISTENING AND THOSE WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR, I'LL OFFER SOME INSIGHT. THE STONE HOUSE RECEIVED ITS MARKER IN 1992, WAS PERCHED ON ACREAGE AT ALLEN, EASON, BALLARD AND MR. STONE PROVIDED EASEMENTS TO THE CITY FOR BOTH STREETS. WILLIAM AND CHARLOTTE STONE'S FAMILY HAD OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE THE 1850S, AND WILLIAM PAINSTAKINGLY DESIGNED AND BUILT HIS INNOVATIVE HOME IN 1912. AMONG OTHER THINGS, HE BROUGHT WATER FROM DOWNTOWN AT THE WELL, AT MARBLE AND BALLARD, AND GENEROUSLY OFFERED IT TO HIS NEIGHBORS, WHO COULD TAP INTO HIS WATER LINES AS A FORWARD THINKER. HE ALSO BROUGHT ELECTRICITY IN WITH A DELCO BATTERY AND A GENERATOR HOUSED IN HIS BASEMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THE STONE HOUSE WAS MOVED 400FT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE CITY'S NEED TO WIDEN ALLEN'S AND THE FORMER'S DESIRE AND THE DEVELOPER'S DESIRE TO HAVE THE HOUSE MOVED TO A MORE SUITABLE LOCATION, THE BASEMENT HAD TO BE SACRIFICED DURING A TIME WHEN THERE WERE FEW AMENITIES, AND MANY TOOK HARDSHIPS FOR GRANTED. MR. STONE WAS A FORWARD THINKER. HE WAS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WE WANT OUR YOUNGER GENERATIONS TO EMULATE.

SO A STONEHAVEN AS A MUSEUM WOULD OFFER A POSITIVE LOOK INTO THE PAST AND WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE IN WYLIE, TEXAS. AND THOSE DAYS PRIOR TO OUR INVOLVEMENT, THE STONE FAMILY HAD REFUSED TO DEAL WITH THE VARIOUS DEVELOPERS WHO'D APPROACHED THE FAMILY OVER TIME FOR FEAR THAT THEIR HOME WOULD BE SACRIFICED. IN 2015, THE WYLIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY STEPPED IN AND WON THE CONFIDENCE OF THE FAMILY. WITH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, JIM DOUGLAS, AND TO HELP THE FAMILY GET WHAT THEY WANTED, WHICH THEY SAID WAS FOR WYLIE TO OWN, FOR TO OWN THE HOUSE AND BE ENTRUSTED WITH THE FUTURE CARE OF THEIR HOME. TO ENSURE THE TEXAS MARKER WOULD REMAIN, AND FOR THEIR MEMORY AND HERITAGE TO LIVE ON. ONCE NEGOTIATIONS WERE COMPLETE, THE STONE FAMILY WROTE THE WYLIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY A CHECK FOR $37,500, WHICH WE THEN WROTE, A CHECK FOR THE HOUSE TO BE MOVED AND STONE RANCH PHASE ONE BEGAN. I WAS AT SOME OF THOSE EARLY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO PROVIDE NAMED REPAIRS AND BRING AMENITIES TO THE HOUSE ONCE IT WAS MOVED, AND THE STONE RANCH DEVELOPMENT HAS SINCE EXPANDED THROUGH PHASE TWO, PROVIDING WYLIE WITH SIGNIFICANT REVENUE. SINCE 2016, AND THE PHASE ONE HAS APPROXIMATELY 139 HOMES.

WITH THIS UNDERSTANDING, THE STONE FAMILY, THE DEVELOPER, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THE CITY OF WYLIE, AND THE WYLIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY SUCCESSFULLY AGREED UPON A PLAN TO CREATE STONE RANCH SUBDIVISION, REALIGN ALLEN'S ROAD, AND SAVE, RELOCATE AND RESTORE THE STONE FAMILY HOME, PRESERVING ITS HISTORIC MARKER. THAT'S WHAT THE TEXAS HISTORIC MARKER COMMISSION AGREED TO, IF IT ONLY IF IT STAYED ON THAT LAND. THIS WAS A VERY COMPLEX AND UNIQUE SITUATION AND A VITAL KEY IN MAKING IT POSSIBLE WAS THE DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT OF THE MEMBERS OF THE WYLIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. JOHN LEWIS, A FEW YEARS BACK, SHARED SOME MEMORIES WITH ME THAT SHORTLY AFTER THE HOUSE WAS MOVED, CITY MANAGER MINDY MANSON INSTRUCTED THE HISTORIC SOCIETY TO EMPTY THE HOUSE OF ITS CONTENTS, TAKE THE INVENTORY, SELL WHAT THEY DIDN'T NEED, AND STORE WHAT THEY FOUND TO BE IMPORTANT. SHE TOLD JOHN THAT SHE'D SEARCH

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AS A MEMBER OF THE SOCIETY. IN THOSE DAYS, A YOUNG ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNER AND LEE WATERMAN HAD PROVIDED THE CITY MANAGER WITH A PROFESSIONAL DESIGN, ALONG WITH DETAILED STEPS TO COMPLETE THE RENOVATION OF STONEHAVEN. OTHER MEMBERS WENT ABOUT THE TASK OF GETTING BIDS FOR THE JOBS LISTED. SADLY, AFTER THAT, WITHOUT NOTICE, MISS MANSON SENT AN EMAIL TO INFORM THE SOCIETY THAT WE SHOULD DESIST FROM THE WORK UNTIL INSURANCE COULD BE OBTAINED. FROM THERE, THE SOCIETY WAS ONLY CALLED UPON FOR EMERGENCY NEEDS SUCH AS WELL CHECKS, OR JUST TO GIVE A EYEBALLS ON THE HOUSE. BUT WE HAVE CONTINUED WITH OUR MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH IS TO PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING OF WYLIE'S HISTORY THROUGH EDUCATION, COLLECTION AND PRESERVATION OF LOCAL ARTIFACTS AND STORIES, PROTECT HISTORIC SITES, AND SERVE AS A RESOURCE FOR OTHERS HISTORY FOCUSED GROUPS, ALL TO HONOR THE PAST FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. WE CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE THIS THROUGH EXHIBITS, GUEST SPEAKERS, ORAL HISTORY PROJECTS, AND PRESERVING HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND LANDMARKS. A PAST COUNCILMAN ONCE ASKED, WHY WAS THERE AN OLD HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD? WHO DID THAT? OBVIOUSLY, HE WAS NOT AWARE OF HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME TO BE. HEARING THIS, WE KNEW THAT WE COULDN'T WAIT ANY LONGER. WE NEEDED TO STEP IN AND ASK MISS OLLEY FOR A MEETING. SHE PROVIDED THAT MEETING IN ABOUT 20 PLUS MEETINGS, 20 PLUS PEOPLE WERE THERE AND WE DISCUSSED IT, AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT EVER SINCE. SHE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAD DISAPPEARED, BUT WE HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF COMMUNITY PROJECTS, AND ONE NOTABLE ONE WAS THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION ASKED US TO TO HOST THE COUNTY PRESERVATION CELEBRATION. I'M SORRY, THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. AND SHE SHE RECEIVED AN AWARD THERE.

OUR FORMER MAYOR WAS THERE, OUR NEW MAYOR WAS THERE. SOME DEARLY DEPARTED RAYMOND COOPER AND BILL LEWIS WERE SOME THAT ATTENDED, AND IT WAS COORDINATED TO INCLUDE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET TO MY HOUSE. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE A HISTORIC HOUSE THERE, AND I BELIEVE THE ADDRESS MAY BE WRONG ON SOME OF YOUR PAPERWORK. IT IS 415 NORTH BALLARD, AND WE HAD AN UNVEILING THERE THAT DAY, AND A TOUR OF THE HOUSE, WHICH I WOULD REALLY, REALLY LIKE FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON COUNCIL AND MAYOR AND CITY STAFF TO HAVE A TOUR WITH ME SOMETIME OF THE HOUSE, SO I CAN TELL YOU SOME THINGS ABOUT HOW THAT HOUSE, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME PICTURES TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS WALKING THROUGH IT. SO NOW I WILL SHARE A BRIEF POWERPOINT FORMER WORK ACCOMPLISHED BY THOSE WHO WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE NEXT MOVE AND RESTORATION OF STONEHAVEN. WHILE A HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS A DEDICATED CORE MEMBERSHIP WITH EXTENSIVE EXPERTISE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND EACH OF US IS COMMITTED TO SEEING THIS PROJECT THROUGH, WE'VE INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF OUR TIME AND MONEY TOWARD THIS GOAL, WHICH CONTINUES TO BENEFIT THE CITY THROUGH TAXATION OF THE STONE RANCH, WHICH IS THERE IN GREAT PART DUE TO OUR SUPPORT OF THE NEGOTIATIONS. SO I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN OPERATE THIS THING. I'M GOING TO GO UP HERE TO STONE HOUSE AND WE'LL CLICK IT. WELL. IT. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? SHE SAID CLICK THAT. BUT OH WRONG THING OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. AND THEN I'M SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING OVER HERE. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO BE FULL SCREEN. YES, MA'AM. PLEASE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, I THINK.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND YOU. THAT ONE. OH, OKAY, I WAS WRONG. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. OKAY.

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AND IT HAD A BASEMENT. AND THAT'S THE BACK SIDE YOU CAN SEE UNDERNEATH THERE. THIS IS THE SIDE WE WE DO WE DO CONSIDER OURSELVES AN EXPERIENCED, QUALIFIED TEAM.

AND THAT'S WHO WE'LL BE LEADING OUR. ACQUIRING. WHO'S GOING TO MOVE THE HOUSE FOLLOWING THE MOVE AND RESTORING THE HOUSE. THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE MOVE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 60 TO $70,000, WHICH INCLUDES EXPENSES FOR SAFELY LOCATING ITEMS IN THE HOUSE. THE RESTORATION COSTS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 275 TO 325,000. TO COVER ALL THE ACTIVITIES TO RESTORE EVERYTHING ON SITE. PRETTY GOOD DEAL. OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. PHOTOS SHOWCASE OF FORMER HOUSE RELOCATIONS. THIS IS. SNOW MOVING AND HE LIFTED IT AND CARRIED IT 400FT AND TRIED TO KEEP THE HOUSE FACED THE SAME WAY AND EVERYTHING. OKAY, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OLD HOUSES. AND WE STARTED MOVING HOUSES. MY HUSBAND AND I STARTED MOVING HOUSES OVER 40 YEARS AGO. AND THEY DON'T LOOK REAL GOOD IN THESE PICTURES, OKAY. BUT THEY ARE NICE LITTLE HOMES NOW. AND THIS ONE, I BELIEVE, CAME FROM AROUND SKILLMAN AND ABRAMS AND MOVED OVER HERE AND WE TURNED IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE. THIS ONE LOOKS SMALL, BUT IT WAS LONG. THIS ONE CAME FROM IRVING. THAT'S IT. GETTING ON THE WHEELS AND IRVING. AND IT HAD TO BE, I BELIEVE IT HAD TO BE CUT IN HALF OR PART OF IT CUT OFF.

YEAH. THERE IT IS. SO IF IT GETS CUT IN HALF AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PUT IT EVERY PUT EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER. AND WE DID. AND THAT'S THE HOUSE. THIS ONE, I'M DOING THEM IN THE ORDER OF OUR MOVES OVER THE YEARS. THIS ONE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF WE HAD WE HAD TO PUT A VERY BIG FOUNDATION ON THIS ONE, AND IT WAS A LITTLE TOUGHER THAN SOME OF THEM. AND THIS ONE SITS ON FIVE ACRES. IT WAS A LITTLE HORSE RANCH, AND THE CITY REQUIRED US TO PUT IN A ROAD AND A CULVERT FOR THIS HOUSE. AND THIS ONE WAS ON SAXY ROAD. THAT IS MR. SNOW AGAIN.

WE HIRED HIM TO MOVE THIS ONE FOR US, AND THE HOUSE HAD TO BE CUT IN HALF. AND THEN THE ROOF HAD TO BE TAKEN APART BECAUSE IT WAS TOO HIGH TO GO UNDER THE LIGHTS. AND SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE A PATHWAY TO GET THE HOUSE THERE. THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE IS THAT IT PROBABLY ONLY HAS A MILE AND A HALF AT TOPS TO GO, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY MAYBE TO GO DOWN BIRMINGHAM AND ACROSS 78 WITHOUT EVER EVEN GOING UNDER A LIGHT, WHICH ELIMINATES SOME PERMITS. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIFTING THE LIGHT AND WIRING. AND THAT'S MR. SNOW AND MY SON, AND THAT'S THE HOUSE LANDED ON A HOUSE IN LAVON. PROPERTY IN LAVON. THE WORK ON THE FOUNDATION. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT TURNED INTO A LOVELY LITTLE HOUSE. WITH A VERY LONG DRIVEWAY AND A CULVERT, WHICH THE CITY REQUIRED US TO PUT IN.

AND I THOUGHT IT TURNED OUT PRETTY NICE. AND THEN WE HAVE JOHN LEWIS, JOHN, THE THE BROWN

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AND THEY TRIED TO BRING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL LOOK. AND THEN THERE'S MY HUSBAND AND MY HOUSE.

SO CUTE. AND THEN IT IS. IT'S A CRAFTSMAN. FOURSQUARE. AND WHEN WHEN WE PURCHASED IT IN 2015, IT HAD SOME WOOD OVER THE TOP OF THE WINDOW, THE TOP WINDOW. AND WHEN HE REMOVED IT TO PAINT, HE FOUND THE LETTERS THAT THEY HAD EMBOSSED IN THE CONCRETE FOR THE YEAR THAT IT WAS BUILT.

AND IT HAS RECEIVED ITS HISTORICAL MARKER. AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO BEGIN WITH. AND IT WAS ON THE RADAR TO BE TORN DOWN, BUT IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED TO BE TORN DOWN BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PAINT ON IT. AND IT LOOKED BAD. BUT INSIDE THE MAN HAD GREEN SHAG CARPET AND GOLD SHAG CARPET ALL THROUGH THE HOUSE, AND THE FLOORS HAD NEVER BEEN STEPPED ON AND THE WOOD WAS BEAUTIFUL. IT HAD NEVER BEEN PAINTED OR SCRATCHED UP OR ANYTHING SO. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WAS COMPLETELY ROTTING OFF, THE DOORS WERE HANGING AND EVERYTHING. IT'S IT WAS A I WILL BE HONEST, WHEN I WALKED IN, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SEE THE VISION. BUT MY HUSBAND DID. AND THIS IS HIS PRIZE TEARDROP CHANDELIER THAT HE REWIRED. AND THE FLOORS TURNED OUT BEAUTIFULLY BECAUSE OF THE NICE MAN LEAVING HIS CARPET DOWN. THIS ROOM ENDED BEFORE YOU GOT TO THOSE CABINETS ON THE RIGHT, AND WE BUMPED IT OUT AND MADE IT BIGGER AND ADDED A LAUNDRY ROOM AND A BATHROOM BACK THERE.

AND SO THE ROOM WASN'T ROTTEN ANYMORE. AND THAT ROOM, WHEN YOU WALKED FROM THE MASTER BEDROOM INTO THE BATHROOM THAT EXISTED THERE, WAS ABOUT A 2.5FT, THREE FOOT HOLE THAT YOU WOULD JUST FALL INTO ON THE GROUND BECAUSE IT WAS THAT ROTTEN, AND WE TURNED IT INTO A HISTORICAL BATHROOM. AND THERE'S THE MEN COMING FROM THE COUNTY PUTTING UP THE MARKER, AND THERE'S MISS HOLLY GETTING HER AWARD, AND THERE'S MARY ANNE WELLS OF THE COLLIN COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION, AND THE TAPS PROUDLY DISPLAYING THEIR MARKER. AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE AFTER AND BEFORE. THIS IS COLONEL WILEY'S PIANO. I BELIEVE THAT HE MAY. HIS FAMILY MAY HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY. IT WAS FORWARDED TO US. AND JENNIFER AND I WENT AND PICKED IT UP AND PUT IT IN STORAGE. AND WE CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR IT TO BE IN THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER NICE ARTIFACTS THAT WE HAVE. AND THE THE FAMILY CAME TO MY HOUSE AND WE HONORED THEM. AND THEY ARE SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR THAT PIANO TO SHOW UP. AND THERE'S SOME OF OUR CREW FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THERE ARE OTHERS THAT WERE NOT PRESENT THAT DAY. WE HAVE FUNDRAISERS FOR OUR BUDGETING SUSTAINABILITY. WE WILL USE

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SO YOU HAVE A PLACE FOR IT AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A PLAN. I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO SOME OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR, CAN WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AND THEN START ASKING THE QUESTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY? YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD BE AGREEABLE BY THE COUNCIL. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. SO. THANK YOU, MISS TAPP. THANK YOU. AND THE WILEY HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. WE WILL ASK NOW, MR. JAMES PRIVETT, IF YOU WILL STEP FORWARD, GIVE US YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. WE MIGHT LET THEM SPEAK AFTER THE SECOND PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE, BECAUSE I DO HAVE. AT LEAST ONE I KNOW, MISS TAPP, YOU ALREADY SPOKE, OBVIOUSLY. I'M SORRY YOU ALREADY SPOKE, OBVIOUSLY. YES, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO TURNED TO FORM IN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. BUT WE'LL HEAR BOTH PRESENTATIONS SO THAT IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ARISE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN ASK THEM AS WELL. SO, MR. PRIVETT, FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, MY NAME IS JAMES. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. SO I DID SUBMIT A PROPOSAL THAT I, I UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN KIND OF REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED. AND I WAS ASKED TO ADDRESS SEVEN SPECIFIC THINGS.

AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO DISCUSS THOSE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THAT AS WELL.

SO THE AGENDA ARE THESE SEVEN ITEMS THAT I WAS ASKED TO DIRECTLY DISCUSS. SO RESTORATION TIMELINE MOVE LOGISTICS AND COORDINATION COSTS, RECENT WORK, RECENT GRANTS, PROJECT TEAM. AND THEN OVERALL HOW WOULD YOU GET NOTIFICATION OF HOW THE RESTORATION PROGRESS WOULD GO AFTER EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE? SO WE'LL START WITH FIRST THINGS FIRST, THE RESTORATION TIMELINE. SO FROM RELOCATION TO ACTUALLY OPENING THE HOUSE. AND I GUESS THIS IS I THINK EVERYONE HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AS I UNDERSTAND. BUT ON THE IDEA FROM THE USE CASE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CITY OF WYLIE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, MOST WOULD BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH WE HAVE EXPERIENCE IN DOING, AND BETWEEN THE FINISHING OF RELOCATION TO OPENING THAT

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SO I DO HAVE PHASES HERE. THEY GET MORE FUN AS YOU GO ALONG. PHASE ONE IS THE LEAST FUN, BUT IT'S MOST IMPORTANT. IT'S THE STABILIZATION, WEATHERPROOFING AND COMPLIANCE. SO THIS IS STUFF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ROOFING, SIDING, MAKE SURE IT'S WATERTIGHT. NO CRITTERS AND ANIMALS ARE COMING IN ANYMORE. AND THEN THE KEY THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING UTILITIES TO THE HOUSE ON WHEREVER IT GETS LOCATED. AND THEN ALSO GOING THROUGH THE PROCEDURAL GUIDELINES, GUIDELINES WITH THE THC AND THEN ALSO THE CITY PERMITTING, WHEN WE GET TO PHASE TWO, THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MAJOR SYSTEMS WITHIN THE HOUSE.

SO ACTUALLY NOW WE HAVE UTILITIES TO THE HOUSE, BUT THEN PLUMBING THEM ALL THROUGHOUT AND HVAC AND ELECTRICAL AND THEN THE MAJOR RESTORATION. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PORCHES, SIDING TRIM, INTERIOR FRAMING AND THEN WALL TREATMENTS AND THEN PHASE THREE.

THAT ONE IS ALL YOUR INTERIOR FURNISHINGS AND FURNISHINGS. SO THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY PAINTING THE WALLS AND FLOORING, BRINGING IN APPLIANCES. AND THEN THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO THE FINAL INSPECTIONS AND APPROVALS. AND THEN LASTLY B GRADING AND FOR SITE WORK AND LANDSCAPING AND MAKING THE OUTSIDE LOOK BEAUTIFUL AS WELL. NUMBER TWO OF SEVEN. SO THE ACTUAL MOVE LOGISTICS AND COORDINATION HOW WOULD THAT WORK. HOW WOULD I DO THAT.

ULTIMATELY MY ROLE WOULD BE THAT I WOULD OVERSEE AND COORDINATE THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

THIS IS TOTALLY OPEN TO. HOWEVER, THE CITY WOULD PREFER WHATEVER LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT YOU WOULD LIKE. I'M 100% FLEXIBLE WITH ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD MANAGE ALL THE LOGISTICS AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE MOVERS, ENGINEERS, UTILITIES, AGENCIES, YOU NAME IT, AND THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE CLEAR, ORGANIZED, DECISION READY INFORMATION AT EVERY SINGLE STEP ALONG THE WAY. WHO I COORDINATE WITH. SO IT'D BE LARGELY AGAIN UP TO YOU, BUT LARGELY BE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, YOUR LEGAL AND PERMITTING TO VERIFY EVERYTHING AS WE GO ALONG WITH CONTRACTS, A LICENSED HOUSE MOVER THAT WE WOULD PICK THROUGH AN RFP, AND THEN FOUNDATION CONTRACTOR WHO I HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL DEFINITELY BE CROSSING ROADS AND THEN POLICE FOR WHEN WE GET TO ACTUAL MOVE DATES. WE WILL NEED TO GET SOME OF THEIR SUPPORT FOR CROSSING ROADS AND UTILITIES IS DEPENDING ON THE ROUTE AND WHERE THE FINAL LOCATION ENDS UP BEING THE ROUTE THAT'S CHOSEN BY THE MOVER. WE MIGHT RUN INTO UTILITY LINES AND THINGS THAT MAY HAVE TO COME DOWN TEMPORARILY, TEMPORARILY LIFTED. WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM. AND THE BIG ONE IS THC, WHICH IS NOT NOT THE FUN KIND, BUT THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WHAT I PROVIDE TO THE CITY. SO ULTIMATELY, I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A CLEAR OUTLINE OF ALL PROCEDURAL STEPS ALONG THE WAY. I HAVE ALL THE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND DONE THIS RECENTLY WITHIN THE COUNTY. SO I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT POSSIBLY BE NEEDED, AND I BE PREPARED TO PREPARE OR TO PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU. AND EVERYTHING FROM RFP IS CONTRACTS, WAIVERS. AND THEN YOU COULD SEND IT TO YOUR LEGAL AND TELL ME TO MAKE ANY EDITS THAT YOU NEED, OR RUN WITH IT HOWEVER YOU PREFER. COMPLETE CONTRACTOR PACKAGES SO I CAN CONDUCT FULL INTERVIEWS, ESTIMATES, REPORTS, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EVERY SINGLE CONTRACTOR. IF ONCE THE MOVE PLAN IS READY TO PROCEED, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL OF THAT. THE TIMELINE, THE ROUTE, UTILITY CLEARANCES, AND THEN THE SAFETY AND PRESERVATION MEASURES. WHAT PRESERVATION MEASURES? YOU MAY SAY WHEN YOU MOVE A HOUSE, IT'S LIKE BEST PRACTICE TO CRACK

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TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION WITH LIVE PROGRESS AND COST TRACKERS WITH LIVE LINKS. SO YOU CAN ALWAYS JUST SEE LIKE WHAT IS WHERE'S JAMES AT WITH THIS? AND THEN SIMPLE WELL-DEFINED DECISION POINTS WITH RECOMMENDED ACTIONS FOR THE CITY AT EVERY SINGLE POINT. SO THE OUTCOME IS A SMOOTH, WELL COORDINATED MOVE WITH MINIMAL WORKLOAD ON CITY STAFF BECAUSE IT IS LIKE A PART TIME JOB TO MOVE A HOUSE. THREE OF SEVEN. SO THESE ARE THE UPFRONT COSTS AND READINESS. DO WE HAVE THE FUNDS UPFRONT ALREADY FOR? RENOVATE STONEHAVEN HOUSE? YES WE DO. WE ESTIMATE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, PROBABLY AROUND 350, UP TO 500 DEPENDING ON SOME OF THE STATUS OF THE FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH AND ATTIC SPACE, WHICH I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY INVESTIGATE THOSE YET, BUT WE HAVE ALL THE COSTS COVERED AND INCLUDING UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES TO DO THAT. THE PREVIOUS HOUSE WE MOVED IS SCOTT BARKER, AND THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, AND WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT ALLOCATED. SO IT'S NOT IN ANY KIND OF COMPETITION, AND WE HAVE AMPLE FUNDING REMAINING FOR STONEHAVEN HOUSE. AND ALSO BECAUSE WE ARE DOING SCOTT BARKER HOUSE, WHICH IS 1870S HOUSE, WHICH ACTUALLY IS IN IT'S IN WORSE CONDITION THAN STONEHAVEN HOUSE. WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW. I ACTUALLY HAVE ALL THE EXTRA MATERIALS, I HAVE ALL THE MATERIALS THAT WE'LL NEED, ALL THE PEX FOR PLUMBING AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. WE HAVE THE CONTRACTORS AND WE UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINES AND COST EXPECTATIONS NEEDED TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY. SO ULTIMATELY, ONCE THE HOUSE IS PLACED, WE WILL BE IMMEDIATELY ABLE TO HAVE PERMITS IN HAND SECURED LIKE WE HAVE WITH SCOTT BARKER. HOUSE UTILITIES AVAILABLE, STRUCTURAL STABILIZATION, WEATHERPROOFING AND CONTRACTORS ALL READY TO BEGIN AS SOON AS THE HOUSE IS PUT DOWN ONTO THE FOUNDATION. SO OVERALL, THERE'S GONNA BE NO DELAY BETWEEN THE PLACEMENT OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE START OF THE RESTORATION FOR SOME RECENT WORK. SO WE HAVE DONE ABOUT FOUR HOUSES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST RELEVANT FOR YOU, AND IT IS ALSO THE MOST RECENT, WHICH IS THE SCOTT BARKER HOUSE AND MELISSA, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF. IT IS PROBABLY THE ALMOST EXACT SAME SCENARIO, WHICH IS, I THINK STONEHAVEN HOUSE IS FACED WITH TODAY. AND TO BE HONEST, IS WHY I'M STANDING HERE. BECAUSE ANYTIME I DID SOMETHING, THIS HOUSE, EVERYONE SAID TO ME, HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT STONEHAVEN HOUSE? YOU SHOULD GO TALK TO THEM ABOUT STONEHAVEN HOUSE. IT WAS ON PARKLAND CITY OWNED IT.

TRYING TO FIND A USE FOR IT AND VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. THEY EVEN TRIED TO DO. THEY DID A BOND ELECTION FOR IT WHICH, WHICH FAILED TO RESTORE THE HOUSE TO PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT, TO USE IT AS OFFICES. AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY WAS REALLY STRUGGLING AFTER THAT, FAILED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT TO DO WITH IT. MY PARENTS LIVED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, SO I KEPT DRIVING BY AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DO REAL ESTATE AND I HAVE A HISTORY IN PRESERVATION. AND SO MAYBE LET ME ASK HIM ABOUT IT. AND ULTIMATELY, WE CAME INTO THE SAME EXACT SCENARIO WHERE I COULDN'T BUY IT THERE, THEY COULDN'T SUBDIVIDE IT, WE HAD TO RELOCATE IT. SO WE RELOCATED JUST 800FT INTO THEIR DOWNTOWN, WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY REVITALIZING AND BUILT NEW FOUNDATION. AND WE'VE BEGUN STABILIZATION AND RESTORATION, RESTORATION, RESTORATION OF THAT HOUSE. AND IN DOING SO, HE SUCCESSFULLY COORDINATED WITH CITY STAFF MOVERS, ENGINEERS AND PRESERVATION AGENCIES. THE BIGGEST SUCCESS, I HAVE TO SAY IS GETTING I PUT CHAMPIONING ALIGNMENT ACROSS ALL PARTNERS, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE WAY TO SAY GETTING EVERYBODY ON BOARD, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND WE HAD A HISTORICAL SITE THAT HAD DIFFERENT VIEWS OF WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE HOUSE, AND THEY'VE BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. AND I ULTIMATELY CAME IN AND WAS ABLE TO COME IN AND GET.

EVERYONE TO FEEL GOOD THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE WANT TO SAVE THE HOUSE. WE WANT IT TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND BE RESTORED AUTHENTICALLY, INSIDE AND OUT, AND ALSO FOR THE CITY AS WELL, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN THEY TRIED TO PASS THAT BOND ELECTION, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGATIVE ABOUT IT. EVEN MY EVEN MY OWN DAD, HE SAID, I DON'T WANT TO PAY $30 EXTRA A MONTH ON MY TAXES, YOU KNOW, JUST TO FOR WHAT? ARE THEY GOING TO USE IT? HOW AM I GOING TO USE THIS HOUSE? SO. AND SO ULTIMATELY, ONCE WE GOT THIS PROCESS GOING, WE MOVED THE HOUSE. PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD WHO WAS WHO WAS GOING TO BE RESTORING IT. WHAT

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SO BEING ABLE TO KNOW ALL THE PIECES, ALL THE PLAYERS AND HOW TO COORDINATE ALL THAT IS KEY.

AND THE OTHER THING IS TO TAKE IT ON FULLY AS, AS THE OWNERS OF THE HOUSE. SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF MOVERS, WHEN YOU GO TO HIRE THEM, WHEN THEY DO THE RFP, THEY WILL SAY THAT THEY WILL DO IT. AND THAT'S PART OF THEIR THEIR JOB. BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, YOU WANT TO TAKE IT ON FULLY BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT MOVING HOUSES. THEY'RE THEY'RE THE GUYS OUT DIGGING THE HOLES AND MOVING THEM. BUT THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS THE BEST AT HAVING A, YOU KNOW, BIG MULTI-TAP SPREADSHEET AND CALLING AND CONFIRMING DATES AND TIMES WITH MANY VARIOUS PEOPLE. AND SO I LEARNED, AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS RECENT PROCESS, I JUST ENDED UP TAKING ON ALL THE COORDINATION. EVEN IF THE MOVER SAID THAT THEY WOULD, I WOULD VERIFY. AND THEN ALSO KNOWING HOW TO RESTORE A UNIQUE HISTORIC HOMES, BECAUSE EVERYONE IS UNIQUE AND THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A HISTORIC HOME CONTRACTOR. SO BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S JUST NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MARKET FOR IT. SO TYPICALLY YOUR CONTRACTORS DO VARIOUS THINGS.

YOU MIGHT GET SOMETHING THAT SAY THAT THEY DO. BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE I HAVE VARIOUS CONTRACTORS, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU, BUT I HAVE SOME THAT ONLY DO CERTAIN THINGS. AND THEY COME IN THE HOUSE AND I HAVE A GUY WHO DOES, FOR EXAMPLE, HVAC.

SO HE INSTALLS HVAC, AND HE ASKED ME, SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE INSULATION ON THIS SCOTT BARKER HOUSE? AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT DO YOU WHAT WOULD YOU DO? AND HE SAID, WELL, I SPRAY FOAM IT. BUT IF AND I DIDN'T, I SAID, OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BUT IF YOU SPRAY FOAM A HOUSE LIKE THAT, YOU WILL DESTROY IT, BECAUSE THESE HOUSES WERE NOT MEANT TO.

THEY WEREN'T BUILT WITH INSULATION. THEY WERE BUILT TO BREATHE. AND IF YOU PUT IN SPRAY FOAM, WHICH IS THE STANDARD, IF YOU WERE BUILDING A REGULAR HOUSE TODAY, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT YOU WOULD DO. BUT YOU WOULD SPRAY FOAM IN FIVE, FIVE YEARS, YOU'D GO, SHOOT, WHAT DID WE DO? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO TRAP MOISTURE IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S STILL GOING TO GET IN THERE, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE TRAPPED AND IT'S GOING TO START MOLDING ALL THROUGHOUT. SO ANYWAYS, IT'S HAVING TO KNOW THAT THE YOU CAN'T JUST TRUST PAY CONTRACTORS TO DO EVERYTHING. YOU HAVE TO KNOW EVERY SINGLE PIECE, AND YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHO YOU'RE HIRING AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO THE OUTCOME OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE ARE FULLY PREPARED FOR STONEHAVEN, KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT TO AVOID. SO MOST RECENT GRANTS FOR SCOTT BARKER, WE HAVE PRESERVATION TEXAS STABILIZATION GRANT, AS WELL AS THE THC EMERGENCY STABILIZATION GRANT. AND THEN I HAVE INITIATED APPLICATIONS FOR THE FEDERAL AND THC TAX CREDITS. THOSE CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL THE HOUSE IS COMPLETELY FINISHED. BUT THOSE ARE IN PLACE, AND THOSE ARE BIG PIECES. BEFORE THAT, I HELPED OUT WITH THE GIBSON GRANT HOUSE IN FLOWER MOUND, WHICH IS DENTON COUNTY, AND IT WAS AN 1860S LOG CABIN THEY DISCOVERED WHEN THEY WERE TEARING DOWN AN OLD HOUSE. AND I HELPED THEM TO SET UP A TEXAS PRESERVATION TRUST FUND, WHICH IS FOR THE OVERALL THE INITIAL PLANNING AND STABILIZATION OF THE HOUSE, WHICH THEY NEEDED ASAP. BASICALLY, IT'S LIKE A PUBLIC MATCHING TYPE GRANT FOR STONEHAVEN. I THINK WE WOULD MIMIC ALL THAT WE'VE DONE WITH SCOTT BARKER, THE TEEPEE IS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE, BUT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH SINCE IT IS GOING TO THE DOWNTOWN. THERE'S A TEXAS TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, AS WELL AS SOME

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BEFORE THIS, I WORKED FOR A NEIGHBOR SETTLEMENT. IT'S IN NAPERVILLE, ILLINOIS, WHICH IS WHERE I'M ORIGINALLY FROM, SUBURB OF CHICAGO, AND IT'S BASICALLY LIKE CHESTNUT SQUARE THAT THEY HAVE IN MCKINNEY. THEY MOVED A BUNCH OF HISTORIC HOUSES, AND THEY USE IT AS A LIVING HISTORY MUSEUM. I DO GRANT WRITING FOR THEM, EVERYTHING FROM CAPITAL GRANTS FOR RESTORATION OF HOMES TO I DID ONE FOR HUD, ADA TO ADA, A RAMP TO ONE OF THE 1880S MANSIONS. AND WE ACTUALLY DID A LOT OF CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL GRANTS BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, THINGS FOR SIGNAGE AND FOR EXHIBITS FOR THE MUSEUM. AND THEN WE HAD A LOT OF SCHOOLS COME IN, SO WE GOT A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL GRANTS. I WROTE A LOT OF THOSE. AND. FUN FACT SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE, I WAS ACTUALLY A NEUROSCIENCE RESEARCHER, AND I HAVE DONE A LOT OF GRANT WRITING THROUGH THAT, INCLUDING A $9 MILLION GRANT AND GRANTS THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL AND USDA GRANTS. I STUDIED LEARNING AND MEMORY, AND THEN I GOT POACHED INTO MY BUSINESS CAREER THAT I'M IN NOW. SO I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. BUT I KNOW A LOT OF CREATIVE WAYS TO TO FIND TO FIND GRANT FUNDING. THE OUTCOME IS THAT ALTHOUGH THAT GRANT FUNDING IS ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY FOR US, WE DON'T BANK ON GETTING THAT, BUT WE ARE POISED TO BRING IT IN. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING IN OUTSIDE DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT WHAT IT DOES IS NOBODY JUST GIVES MONEY AND DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING. THEY'D LIKE TO GIVE MONEY AND SAY, HEY, LOOK WHAT WE CONTRIBUTED TO. I THINK IT GIVES EYES TO THE PROJECT AND VISIBILITY ON THE CITY, AND I THINK IT WILL HELP GET A VESTED INTEREST AND SUCCESS IN IT. PROJECT TEAM. SO THERE'S ME AS THE LEAD. I'M A PRESERVATION SPECIALIST WITH DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH RELOCATING AND RESTORING HISTORIC HOMES. I HAVE HANDS ON SKILLS IN REMODELING AND CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T JUST HIRE PEOPLE AND NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. I HAVE BEST DEGREE I EVER GOT WAS FROM YOUTUBE UNIVERSITY. I KNOW HOW TO DO EVERYTHING FROM FLOORING TO ELECTRICAL TO PLUMBING. I'VE DONE IT ALL AND I'M VERY EXPERIENCED WITH CONTRACTOR MANAGEMENT, WORKED WITH GOOD ONES, MEDIOCRE AND NOT TOO MANY VERY BAD ONES BECAUSE I HAD GOOD MENTORS, BUT SOME BAD ONES. AND THEN PROPERTY AND RENTAL MANAGEMENT. AND I'VE PROVEN ABILITY TO COORDINATE WITH CITIES, AGENCIES, MOVERS, ENGINEERS AND PRESERVATION BODIES. AND I THINK YOU CAN SPEAK TO CITY, MELISSA, I THINK AND TO TO VOUCH FOR THAT WHO I WOULD ENVISION A SPECIALIZED PARTNER FOR THIS PROJECT. THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE IF NEEDED.

HOUSE MOVER. SO ALEXIS BROUGHT UP THE SNOW FAMILY, WHO THEY ARE THE KNOWN AS THE BEST MOVER WERE KNOWN AS THE BEST MOVERS IN TEXAS. THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH RETIRED AT THIS POINT AND SO I COULD NOT GET THEM FOR SCOTT PARKER HOUSE. I SINCE INTERVIEWED EVERY SINGLE MOVER IN TEXAS AND EVERYONE POINTED TO OWNING HOUSE MOVERS, AND THEY WERE BY FAR THE MOST COMMUNICATIVE OUT OF ALL OF THEM. THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 80 PLUS YEARS. SNOW FAMILY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THEM AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB FOR US. AND THEY'RE REALLY WELL KNOWN FOR REMOVING OR FOR MOVING HISTORIC STRUCTURES FOR FOUNDATION ENGINEERING. I HAVE SOMEONE, MIKE BARRETT, THROUGH GENE'S CONSTRUCTION, WHO'S DONE ALL THE WORK FOR THE DENTON HISTORICAL SOCIETY. THEY'VE MOVED A LOT OF HOUSES IN DENTON INTO LIKE A LITTLE LIVING HISTORY MUSEUM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY NICHE THING TO MAKE A FOUNDATION FOR A HOUSE THAT'S BEING MOVED. THERE'S NOT YOU CAN'T JUST CALL YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOUNDATION COMPANY.

YOU HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY. IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ART. AND THEN FOR ENGINEERING AND SOME PLANNING, I HAVE A FRIEND, TYLER HOSKINS, WHO HELPED ME WITH THAT. UTILITIES. I ALREADY HAVE DIRECT CONTACTS SINCE HAVING DONE THIS RECENTLY WITHIN THE COUNTY FOR IF WE HAVE TO, DEPENDING ON THE ROUTE, IF WE HAVE ANYTHING WITH ONCOR, AT&T, LOCAL CABLE PROVIDERS, I HAVE CELL PHONE NUMBERS, DIRECT CONTACTS WHO TO GET TO, WHICH OTHERWISE WOULD TAKE IT WOULD TAKE YOU A MONTH, MAYBE TO GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON. LANDSCAPING AND SITE WORK I HAVE. I HAVE A GREAT GUY FOR THAT. AND THEN FOR CONTRACTORS I HAVE SEVERAL. STEVE, BRADLEY AND AARON ARE MY MY KEY CONTRACTORS THAT I WORK WITH, BUT GENERALLY I HAVE SPECIALIZED PEOPLE FOR VARIOUS THINGS BECAUSE IF YOU HIRE ONE CONTRACTOR, GENERALLY YOU'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE. SO I HAVE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND THEY'VE ALL WORKED WITH ME BEFORE AND ON HISTORIC HOMES BEFORE. AND I ALSO HAVE HISTORICAL HISTORICAL SUPPORT ADVISORS. ASIDE FROM MYSELF, MY GOOD FRIEND BRIAN OGG, ACTUALLY, HE'S A HISTORIAN, CAME DOWN HERE. HE'S A FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT EXPERT. HE'S AN EXPERT ON ROOKWOOD. HE'S ACTUALLY WAS HE ACTUALLY LAST

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LAST JANUARY, WE BEGAN. WE WE HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT A POSSIBLE LEASE BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF DONATING, AND THE SOCIETY DIDN'T HAVE THE CASH ON HAND TO PURCHASE THE HOUSE. AND EVEN IF WE DID, IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS.

BUT AS OF JANUARY OF 25, WE TOLD THE CITY WE WERE GOOD WITH THE LEASE, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THE INSURANCE, WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. AND FROM LAST WINTER UNTIL MAY, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THE CITY. AND THEN NOW WE FIND OUT. OF THIS OTHER PERSON. AND I'M I'M GLAD. I'M GLAD THAT THAT. JAMES IS, IS OFFERING TO DO SUCH GOOD WORK. SO THERE'S SOME GOOD OPTIONS FOR THE CITY, BUT I THINK YOU CAN APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE SOME TIME INVESTED AND SOME GOOD FAITH INVESTED, AND SO I DON'T REALLY FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND. I DON'T KNOW, I WASN'T PREPARED TO SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID TODAY. I'M NOT A BIG PUBLIC SPEAKER. THIS THIS FEELS LIKE WHIPLASH. AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW YOUR MIND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SOCIETY VERSUS MR. PRUITT. OR OR JUST DO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. BUT THE EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING. WE ALL KNOW IN BUSINESS AND IN LIFE, YOU DON'T ALWAYS LIKE WHO YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH, AND YOU DO THE BEST YOU CAN OR YOU SHOULD. I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WE WERE ASKED, WITH VERY LIMITED TIMELINES, TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT APPARENTLY MR. PRUITT CAME TO THE CITY PREPARED WITH. AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE UP AGAINST. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FOR NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. SO I'M GOING TO CALL ON MISS SANDRA STONE. HERE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC SESSION. I'M FROM STONE RANCH ITSELF. I'M A PREVIOUS HOA PRESIDENT, BUT I HAVE A CHANCE TO. MAYBE I WILL, AS IT'S A WORK SESSION, I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR AFTER I'VE COMPLETED THOSE WHO SIGNED A FORM. THANK YOU, MISS STONE. GOOD EVENING WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SANDRA STONE. I LIVE AT 211 NORTH KIEFER DRIVE, WYLIE,

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SO I HAD THOSE TO MOVE BACK TO THE HOUSE WHEN IT WAS TIME. AS FAR AS FUTURE USE OF THE HOUSE, I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO LOOK AT HISTORIC EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THE HOUSE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND QUITE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL USE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT I FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HISTORICAL PURPOSES, EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES USED FOR THE HOUSE, WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. MOST OF YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS LOST A LOT OF ITS RESOURCES, HISTORICAL RESOURCES.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT IS A FEATHER IN THEIR CAP MOVING FORWARD, IF DONE PROPERLY, TO KIND OF JUMP START THAT AGAIN FOR THE FUTURE. SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND, SARAH, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SPEAK, SO IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD, WHAT I'LL ASK IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, I WILL ASK YOU TO KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEMBERS FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. WHEN YOU'RE DONE, IF YOU WOULD MISS STORM CAN HAND YOU A FORM. IT'S JUST SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD. WHO SPOKE. BUT FOR NOW, WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. MY NAME IS LARRY HEATH AND THE ADDRESS IS 507 VIRGINIA LANE HERE IN WYLIE. ACTUALLY, WE BOUGHT INTO THE STONE RANCH COMMUNITY IN 2017. SO WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW. AND DURING

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PERFECT. AND IF YOU WILL TAKE THAT FORM FROM MISS STORM HERE. YES. AND COMPLETE THAT FOR US.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY, SO WITH THAT I DO I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE LISTENED TO A COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS, HEARD SEVERAL SPEAKERS. THIS IS A WORK SESSION. SO I'LL REMIND EVERYONE NO FINAL DECISIONS. NO VOTES ARE TAKEN THIS EVENING THAT WILL BE AT A FUTURE MEETING. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT BOTH PARTIES ARE AWARE OF WHEN THAT IS. I WANT TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO THE COUNCIL. WE DID HEAR THE QUESTION I'LL START WITH FROM MISS STONE. I KNOW THAT THE HISTORIC SOCIETY, HISTORICAL SOCIETY, I APOLOGIZE, I ALWAYS SHORTEN IT HAS ALREADY STATED THEY HAVE A PLACE IDENTIFIED IN THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN PROVIDE EXACT ADDRESS YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY OF WHERE YOU WOULD PLAN TO LOCATE THAT WITH MISS ALLEY. IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND HOW REAL ESTATE WORKS. DO YOU, SIR, MR. PRIVETT? AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE US AN EXACT LOCATION, BUT DO YOU HAVE A LOCATION IDENTIFIED? YES, I I'LL HAVE TO ASK YOU TO COME UP, AND I KNOW YOU'VE SENT IT IN, BUT SINCE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. I'M NOT ASKING FOR EXACT ADDRESSES, BUT WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE CONFIRMATION THAT THERE IS A PLACE LOCATED THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. YES. I ANALYZED THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, AND BASED ON THE LOT SIZES AND THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE, IDENTIFIED SEVERAL AREAS, I THINK ABOUT NINE DIFFERENT AREAS IN WHICH IT COULD GO POTENTIALLY, AND I ITEMIZE THEM BASED ON

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YES. SO THAT WAS SO MISS ALLEY. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ON THAT. I JUST I WOULD RATHER WE NOT REALLY PINPOINT A LOCATION OTHER THAN SIMPLY WE ARE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN BECAUSE MAYBE AT ANY RATE, WHATEVER LOT IT IS IT'S GOING TO INITIALLY THE CITY HAS TO PURCHASE IT. SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE HISTORIC SOCIETY PROPOSED. IT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK THE SAME WITH MR. PRIVET. THAT LOT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. SO, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE IT ON A LOT WITHIN DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. I THINK THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. SO, MAYOR PRO TEM, I'LL LET YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND AGAIN TURN IT TO YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR BOTH TO HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND TO MR. PRIVET FOR THEIR PRESENTATION AND GIVING US A, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF US THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE, IT'S GREAT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF IT AND HOW TO GET TO BE WHERE IT IS AND HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD. AND I I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE CITY STAFF STANDPOINT AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WE FINALLY, WE'RE PUSHING TOWARDS A RESOLUTION AND GETTING THIS HOUSE RESTORED IS THE NUMBER ONE GOAL IN PARTICULAR FOR ME AS COUNCIL INDIVIDUAL. MR. PRIVET, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE USING THE HOUSE FOR AFTER IT'S RESTORED? WHAT IS THE HOUSE BEING USED FOR? HOW DO YOU FORESEE THE FUTURE OF THE HOUSE? HOW MUCH ACCESS DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE TO THE HOUSE? HOW MUCH ACCESS DOES THE SCHOOLS AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS TO THE HOUSE? AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP? YOU MENTIONED WITH MELISSA'S HISTORIC SOCIETY, IF I'M CORRECT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW DID YOU COME ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WERE THEY PART OF THE RESTORATION AND HOW MUCH INPUT DO THEY HAVE IN THAT HOUSE CURRENTLY? I'M TO ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION. SO FOR SCOTT BARKER HOUSE, MY PARENTS LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS OUR PERSONAL RESIDENCE. BUT WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY THERE, WE'VE OPENED IT UP TO THEM FOR MEETINGS AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS THEY WOULD WISH, OR IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME AND VIEW THE HOUSE OR UTILIZE IT FOR EVENTS. WE DO PLAN TO HAVE AN ANNUAL HERITAGE DAY IN. MELISSA IS GOING TO BE DOWNTOWN AND OPEN UP THERE, AND WE ALSO MELISSA HAS TWO FESTIVALS A YEAR THAT WILL ALSO OPEN UP THE HOUSE AND GIVE TOURS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE HOUSE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE HISTORY, MELISSA, WHICH HAS BEEN KIND OF LOST. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP THEN THERE AS WELL FOR THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE. WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY OF WYLIE, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO I KIND OF TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE AND ASKED WHAT WOULD BE A USE CASE THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE.

SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO IF WE IF. BECAUSE TO ME, I, I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS HOA PRESIDENT. IT'S A WEIRD LOCATION THAT IT'S IN NOW, AND OBVIOUSLY THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN JUST SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE. I THINK EVERYONE CAN BE ON BOARD WITH THAT. THEY MENTIONED SEVERAL THINGS, BUT I THINK THE ONE THAT WAS MOST INTERESTED WAS LIKE A HISTORIC HERITAGE IN.

SO LIKE BASICALLY THINK ABOUT A AIRBNB THAT PATRONS WHO COME TO THE CITY, MAYBE THEY COME FOR THE FESTIVALS, THEY COME TO THE RESTAURANTS. THEY, YOU KNOW, AS THE DOWNTOWN IS GROWING, THEY SOMEPLACE TO STAY AND WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF BREWERIES AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING. AND I THINK THAT IT'S FITTING FOR THE HOUSE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THE HOUSE IS BUILT AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND IF YOU'VE BEEN INSIDE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE HOUSE. I HAVE A FRIEND OF MINE WHO SAYS, YEAH, HE SAYS THAT IF YOU GO INTO ONE ONE HISTORIC HOUSE AND YOU SEE ONE PARLOR AND DINING ROOM, YOU'VE SEEN THEM ALL. THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE. IT'S VERY UNIQUE THE WAY THAT IT WAS DESIGNED. THE IT'S REALLY KIND OF MIND BLOWING IN A WAY. AND A LOT OF THE HISTORIC FEATURES HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN PRESERVED AND ARE STILL THERE. AND I THINK THE HOUSE SHOULD BE UTILIZED AS IT IS, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE CUT UP AND TURNED INTO SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK TO USE IT AS IN ITS IN ITS TRUE FORM AS INTENDED, WOULD BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY, I THINK, AN IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME TO. AND THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY UNLIKE ANYTHING. BECAUSE EVEN FOR SCOTT BARKER, HOUSE AND MELISSA, I LOVE IT. BUT IT'S BEEN RENOVATED SO MANY TIMES, IT'S HARD TO TELL WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S NOT. BUT WHEN YOU GO INTO THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE, YOU SEE HIS VISION AND IT'S VERY IT'S VERY UNIQUE. I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF HISTORIC HOMES. MY FRIEND BRIAN, WHO CAME HERE, HE WAS BLOWN AWAY. AND I THINK PEOPLE WHO GO TO VISIT THE HOUSE WOULD BE AS WELL. AND I THINK WE WOULD LOVE TO SHOWCASE THAT AND SHOWCASE

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I'M NO I'M NO HISTORICAL PRESERVATION PRESERVATIONIST. SO YOU YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING FROM ME. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WOOD WOULD BE USED. BUT MY MY THOUGHT IS, CAN THIS HOUSE BE FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSES? WHILE WE WE MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY AND LONGEVITY OF THE HOUSE? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? ONE THING WE I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD AND EVERYTHING, BUT ONE. ONE THING IS THAT WE HAVE TWO STORAGE FACILITIES FULL OF THINGS THAT CAME FROM THE HOUSE, PLUS THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED THAT WERE HISTORICAL OBJECTS THAT WERE SIGNIFICANT TO WILEY. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF IN IN HIS LOVE FOR THE HOUSE AND AND SHARING IT AS AN AIRBNB, IF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO FIT INTO THE HOUSE. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE MAKE IT A HISTORICAL. YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO MAKE IT AN IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, IS MAKE AN IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE. BUT OUR IDEA WAS TO HAVE IT BE SET UP PRETTY MUCH LIKE IT WAS WHEN PEOPLE LIVED THERE BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE KINDS OF CITIES AND THINGS. I HAVE AN AIRBNB. I KNOW WHAT GETS IT.

THEY GET USED AND THEY GET USED HARD SOMETIMES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE OBJECTS WOULD SURVIVE THAT. BUT I MEAN, YEAH, HE SEEMS LIKE A NICE MAN. I MEAN, I MET HIM AT THE HISTORICAL TOURS. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HAD NEVER DONE A RENOVATION. WHEN HE WAS TALKING TO ME, HE HE SAID HE MIGHT PICK MY BRAIN. AND SO I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HIS WORK.

BUT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SANDRA SAID WHILE AGO WAS THAT SHE WANTED IT TO BE ABOUT EDUCATION AND NOT AN AIRBNB. WELL, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH. I DON'T I MEAN, MAYBE YOU CAN HAVE BOTH, BUT I, I DIDN'T WHEN SHE SAID THAT, I WAS THINKING, WELL, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH.

BECAUSE I KNOW I RUN AN AIRBNB. IT'S, IT'S AND YOU AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO MAKE MONEY AND WEEKENDS ARE IMPORTANT. AND WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A WEEKEND EVENTS. I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE SOME WEEKDAY EVENTS, BUT WE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO HAVE LIKE A TWO DAY SOMETHING IN THE WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT REAL QUICK, MY HUSBAND DID 80% OF THE WORK ON THE OLD HOUSE. THE CONTRACTORS WERE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. HE HE WORKS AT THE SPEED OF TAP. THAT'S OUR SAYING. AND HE IS GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES. HE DOESN'T LIKE FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT HIM, SO HE'S PROBABLY FROWNING RIGHT THIS SECOND, BUT HE'S CLOSING HIS EYES. BUT HE DID 100% OF THOSE OTHER OLD LITTLE HOUSES THAT WE DID. AND AND I POURED CONCRETE AND I'VE, I'VE RUN A BACKHOE AND STUFF. I MEAN, WE ARE HANDS ON PEOPLE AND THIS FELLOW HAS TEAMS. SO I CAN SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S GREAT STUFF HE'S GOT THERE. BUT WE GET STUFF DONE.

MAYOR I'LL MAKE THE LAST POINT. AND THEN FOR ME, I WANT TO SEE THIS HOUSE RESTORED. I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE INTENT USE OF THIS HOUSE IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EVENTS AND HAVE STUDENTS GO THROUGH IT AND PRESERVE THE HISTORY. I ALSO DO WANT TO FIND A LONG TERM JEVITY FOR THE PROPERTY, AND THAT PROPERTY NEEDS TO SUSTAIN AND HOWEVER THAT MAY BE COMING. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW HOW GRANTS WORK. THEY'RE THERE TODAY. THEY'RE NOT THERE TOMORROW. HOW DO WE KNOW HE DOESN'T SELL IT LATER, THOUGH. AND AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW.

AND I CAN'T SAY THAT'S FOR ALL OF US TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND AND HOW THAT WORKS. SO I DO SEE A LOT OF SYNERGY. MAYBE YOU GUYS NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND FIGURE OUT

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AND THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE. MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT COUNCILMAN STRING.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'LL HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS FOR YOU BOTH. BUT WE'LL START WITH YOU SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU. ON SLIDE 62. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S FUNDING SOURCES AND BUDGETING. THERE'S SO A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANTS THAT I HAVE. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE YOU SECURING THE GRANTS. IS THERE ANY KIND OF OBLIGATIONS OR ANYTHING TO THE CITY AS A RESULT OF THOSE? ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN OR PROVIDE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? I DON'T. MORE THAN SHE'S THE GRANT THAT WORKS. IT IS, IF MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE ONCE THE ONCE THE HOUSE IS TRANSFERRED TO THE SOCIETY, ASSUMING THAT THAT'S THE ROUTE Y'ALL AGREE WITH, THEN THE GRANTS THAT WE SEEK THAT WE ARE AWARDED ARE NOT OBLIGATING THE CITY TO FURTHER THINGS. IS THAT SPEAKING TO YES. YES. THERE'S NO MATCHING FUNDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, THERE THERE COULD BE SOME THAT WE COULD PURSUE IF WE HAD MATCHING FUNDS. BUT BUT THE MATCHING FUNDS WOULDN'T. WELL, SO THAT KIND OF TAKES YOU TO THE NEXT QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE IS ONE THING WHERE IT MENTIONS CITY GOVERNMENT BACK AND ENSURES STEADY FUNDING. AND I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STEADY FUNDING MEANS, BECAUSE IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE IT COMES FROM US. THAT WOULD BE AMBITIOUSLY HOPEFUL THAT THE CITY MIGHT. SO YES. OKAY. THAT THAT IS HOPEFUL. THAT'S NOT ASSUMPTIVE. OKAY. THE IF THE CITY SAYS, HEY, WE'RE WE'RE ONCE WE'RE DONE WE'RE DONE, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL WORK WITH. OKAY. BUT WE PUT IN THERE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ASK. AND THEN IF THE CITY SAYS NO, THEN, OKAY, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NO. OKAY, NOW I UNDERSTAND.

DON'T ASK, DON'T GET RIGHT. BUT THEN I WANT TO ALSO ENSURE TOO, THAT IF IF WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE MATCHING FUNDS OR STEADY FUNDING, YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY AND ABSOLUTELY MAINTAIN. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

WELL, I'VE GOT TO ASK MR. PRIVETT HERE THE SAME QUESTIONS, MAYBE SOME SLIGHT NUANCES, BUT THIS QUESTIONS ARE STILL BASICALLY THE SAME, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH SECURING SOME OF THESE GRANTS, OUR CITY'S OBLIGATED IN ANY WAY TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, ASSIST, MAYBE BE ON THE HOOK, ETCETERA. FINANCIALLY. YES. NO. OKAY. ANY OTHER KIND OF LIKE MATERIAL WORK SUPPORT, ETC. BESIDES FUNDING. OKAY. AND ARE YOU SEEKING OR PLANNING TO SEEK ANY SORT OF ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY ONCE THE THE IF AND WHEN THE HOME WAS BE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO YOU, ANY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE? NO. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS THANK YOU. MAYOR, HI.

MISS TAP FOR YOU FIRST. AND I THINK MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REGARDING THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY JUST BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR SO LONG. AND FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMMITTING TO THE CITY OF WYLIE. YOUR TIME, ENERGY, EFFORT, RESOURCES, CARE AND ALL OF THAT. IT'S APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. SO BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN COMPETITION RIGHT NOW, WHICH I THINK THAT ONLY CAME FROM HIM FINDING IT ON THE ENDANGERED SPECIES LIST, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD THAT, YOU KNOW. AND SO WE INSTIGATED OUR PROBLEM.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AT THAT POINT HE BECAME INTERESTED AND AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE, IS WHAT I THINK. BUT MOST OF MY QUESTIONS I WANT TO GET TO HELP KIND OF BRING CONTEXT TO HOW WE GOT HERE. AND I THINK IT'LL HELP. AND IT'S HELPED A WHOLE LOT TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING FOR MYSELF. OKAY. SO DON'T FEEL BEAT UP IF YOU'VE GOT MORE QUESTIONS. IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MORE HISTORY THERE. SURE. AND THEN I'LL GET HIM AFTERWARDS ON JUST A FEW THAT I HAVE, AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE EXACT SAME. I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY. WELL, AND I WILL TELL Y'ALL I WENT AND VISITED THE HOUSE. IT IS AN AMAZING HOUSE AND I, I DID THE SASSY HISTORICAL SOCIETY BACK IN THE EARLY 2000, AND I'VE DONE HISTORIC HOUSES AND REPAIR AND THE GRASSCLOTH WALLPAPER WITH THE SHIPLAP WALLS. THE THING IS, IS BUILT LIKE A YOU

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AND SO I CAN SEE HOW Y'ALL BOTH WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PRESERVED, ITS HISTORY IS PRESERVED, AND THAT IT'S ABLE TO TURN OUT LOOKING AS GOOD AS IT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AND BE USED AS MUCH AS IT COULD POSSIBLY BE USED. AND SO I THINK Y'ALL ARE COMING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT I THINK Y'ALL HAVE THE SAME END GOAL, JUST DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTIONS OF IT. WHAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT HOW THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY HAS OPERATED FROM WHAT I GOT FROM MY NOTES, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE HISTORIC SOCIETY GOT INVOLVED IN IT IN 2015 WHEN IT GOT MOVED. ACTUALLY, IT WAS 2011 WHEN THE 2011. OKAY, THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY STARTED TRYING TO PUT THEIR IDEAS TOGETHER. OKAY. IT WAS KIND OF ON THE RADAR.

THERE WAS ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE RADAR. OKAY. AND WE WERE INCORPORATED IN 2012. AND THEN, YEAH, IN 2015 WAS WHEN IT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED AND IT GOT MOVED AND THEN IT GOT MOVED IN 2015. YEAH. AND SO THE OVER 30,000 THAT THE HISTORIC SOCIETY COMMITTED IN 2015 TO GET IT MOVED IS THAT THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. RIGHT. 37 FIVE SO HOW DID THAT FUNDRAISING HAPPEN? IT WAS A GIFT FROM THE FAMILY. THIS IS THIS IS THE POINT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE. THE FAMILY REALLY WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEIR HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THEY TOOK ENOUGH MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSE GOT SO THEY PAID TO MOVE IT. OKAY. THEY WILL. THEY GAVE IT TO US.

I, I ASSUME IT WAS MORE TAX SOMETHING FOR IT TO GO THROUGH US. I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I WASN'T THERE, BUT IT WENT INTO OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT AND WE WROTE THE CHECK TO THE PERSON TO PAY THE MOVER. OKAY, THAT THAT HELPS. AND B PARDON ME IF I TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST SKIM PAST IT. I THINK THE TIME IS DEFINITELY WORTH SPENDING. SO SINCE 2015, SINCE IT'S BEEN MOVED, WHAT GRANTS HAVE Y'ALL APPLIED FROM? I THINK SHE'S BEEN JENNIFER. MISS, AM I SAYING IT RIGHT? WHAT? SORRY. WAKEMAN. WAKEFIELD I'M SORRY, MISS WAKEFIELD. SO YOU'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2018? YES, BUT IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE 2015. SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK MISS TAPP, IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD DURING THAT TIME, FROM 2015 TO 18, WHAT GRANTS WERE APPLIED FOR BETWEEN 2018 AND 2025? WHAT GRANTS HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR? THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT GRANT WRITING. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE THE PLAN IN PLACE IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT TO PAY FOR THE PLAN, AND YOU CAN'T WRITE THE GRANT UNTIL THE PLAN IS IN PLACE. AND IN 20. WHAT WAS IT, 2016, 2015, 2015? THE THE CITY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. Y'ALL STEP BACK. SO WE DID. AND THEN TIME WENT ON. THE HAILSTORM HAPPENED. THAT THREW EVERYBODY OFF. SURE. AND YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T ANYBODY'S FAULT. SO THE CITY WAS GOING TO DO THE GRANT WRITING. THEY WERE GOING TO PULL FROM THE TAX FOR THE HOTEL TAX. I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE GENERAL THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD. OKAY. OKAY.

SO IN Y'ALL'S OPINION, IT WAS STOPPED IN 2015. Y'ALL NOT TO DO ANYTHING. WE HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS DESIST GOING INTO THE BECAUSE WE WERE DOING THE GUNG HO AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHOA, WHOA WHOA OKAY. HOLD IT. AND THE LETTER I THINK IF I'M IF I GOT THE NOTES RIGHT ON WHAT YOU SAID, IS THAT THE LETTER THAT WAS ABOUT INSURANCE, I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE ON IT. WE NEED INSURANCE. I THINK IT WAS SOME WORDING LIKE THAT I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT LIABILITY, HAVING VOLUNTEERS DOING WORK ON THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT WAS ON A PARK LAND. AND.

RIGHT. SO WHEN DID Y'ALL GET THE INSURANCE? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET. WE DON'T WE DIDN'T. IT WASN'T EVER OUR HOUSE TO GET INSURANCE FOR BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY SENT US A LETTER. WE WE GOT THE HOUSE EMPTY. WE WERE GIVEN THE ORDERS TO EMPTY THE HOUSE TO SAVE WHAT WE WANTED AND PUT THE REST IN STORAGE. AND THEN THE NEXT THING WE KNEW, WE GOT AN ANNA LEE WATERMAN, MADE ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL PLANS, PRESENTED THEM TO THE CITY, AND THE NEXT THING WE KNEW, WE GOT AN EMAIL SAYING DESIST AND DON'T GO IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE UNTIL YOU HAVE INSURANCE AND THEY GET INSURANCE WANTED INSURANCE ON THE HOUSE, THEY WANTED TO GET INSURANCE. THEY DIDN'T ASK US TO GET INSURANCE, ESSENTIALLY, SINCE THE BUILDING AND I WASN'T

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THE HAILSTORM HAPPENED, THREW EVERYBODY OFF. THAT WAS IN 2016. THERE WERE TWO HAILSTORMS, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THE HOUSE WAS MOVED. BARELY GOT IT WAS STILL ON. THE TEMPORARY BLOCK.

TEMPORARY BLOCKS. THE HAILSTORM HAPPENED AND THEY GOT A NEW ROOF AND AND, YOU KNOW, 85% OF THE CITY WAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. AND SO THE STONEHAVEN HOUSE TOOK A BACK SEAT, WHICH WAS UNDERSTANDABLE. AT THE TIME. WE DIDN'T EVEN ASK BECAUSE WE WERE ALL JUST LIKE IN THE SAME SHOCK THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS. AND WE KNEW THAT THE CITY WAS OVERWHELMED. SO WE WERE TRYING TO BE WE WERE JUST BEING SO IN 2018. SO FAST FORWARDING PAST THAT IN 2018, WHAT HAPPENED OR WHEN DID THE BALL GET PICKED UP OR HOW DID THINGS MOVE FORWARD AS FAR AS THE CITY DECIDED TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH ARCHITECTS, AND WE PARTICIPATED WITH THE PARKS DIRECTOR AT THE TIME, ROBERT DIAZ, HELPING THEM KIND OF FORM THE. THE VISION WITH ARCHITECTS. BUT BASICALLY FROM THE POINT IN WHICH THAT PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN TO COUNCIL, WE WEREN'T INVITED TO THAT. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I DIDN'T FIND OUT UNTIL LIKE AN HOUR BEFORE THAT WAS WHAT YEAR THAT WAS 1919. OKAY. OR WAS THAT 19? IS THAT 20 SOMEWHERE IN THERE? OKAY. SOME OF IT'S JUST HELPING GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE. YEAH, IT WAS WE WERE GETTING WE WERE GETTING LEFT OUT A LOT. AND AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I CALLED AND ASKED FOR A MEETING AT THE CITY. AND RENEE SET THAT UP AND SET THAT UP AND, AND WE HAD ABOUT 20 PLUS PEOPLE THERE.

AND IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING REIGNITED THAT WE'RE OUT HERE AND WE WANT THE HOUSE. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. AND SO MISS HOLLY AND I MET MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES. THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT EMAILS AND STUFF, ABOUT CREATING A LEASE. AT FIRST, JENNIFER DIDN'T WANT TO LEASE IT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY RIGHTFULLY SUPPOSED TO BE OURS, BUT I WAS FINALLY, I WAS JUST LIKE, WE JUST WE JUST GOT TO GET OUR FEET IN THE DOOR. AND THE LEASE WAS SET UP. WHEN WE WERE FORMING IT, SO THAT

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WE DON'T HAVE A LEASE. LEASE WE DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE OWNERSHIP. WE DON'T HAVE A LEASE. WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO GIVE US $20,000 FOR SOMETHING OR $100,000 TO GIVE THEM A DEFINITIVE PLAN, NOT JUST WE HOPE TO WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE CITY. OKAY, WE HAVE PLANS, BUT THEY WEREN'T SOLIDIFIED BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THE LEASE, WHICH IS WHY BACK IN JANUARY, WE'RE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. AND. WE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THINGS DIDN'T HAPPEN. I THINK THAT PUTS THINGS IN MORE PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS. THE QUESTIONS I HAD ON THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE WITHOUT SOME OF IT WAS I WAS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, HOW DO WE HAVE TEN YEARS OF NOTHING HAPPENING? YEAH, ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. I HATE TO SAY IT. JUST BE REAL WITH IT. YOU HAVE TEN YEARS OF NOTHING HAPPENING. WELL, SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED, BUT KIND OF WHEN AND WHERE AND I THINK I CAN I CAN SEE SOME OF THAT. THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND IT. AT LEAST THOSE WERE THE THOSE ARE THE MAIN QUESTIONS I HAD FOR Y'ALL. SO I WILL GO TO MR. PRIVET ON HIS FEET. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, MR. PRIVET. I YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT FUNDING IN PLACE. THE. YOU DO HAVE FUNDING IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO FIX IT, RESTORE IT. THE IF IT TAKES 3 TO 500,000, YOU'VE GOT THE ABILITY IN THAT SET ASIDE. YES, SIR. AND IN PERPETUITY TO MAINTAIN THAT AND THAT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT WITH A BUSINESS MODEL THAT HAS A BUSINESS PLAN ATTACHED TO IT THAT YES, YOU CAN USE. SO HOW MANY HOUSES HAVE YOU MOVED? SO PERSONALLY I'VE MOVED THIS ONE IN MELISSA. OKAY. AND I NOTICED WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PHOTOS OF THE PROJECT COMPLETED OR IN PROCESS. THE ONE IN MELISSA DID I MISS IT IN THE OF THE HOUSE OF THE ONE MELISSA MOVED, RIGHT? YEAH, I SAW I SAW ONE PHOTO OF IT BEING MOVED OF. YEAH, IN KIND IN PROCESS, BUT NOTHING ELSE. IS IT FINISHED OR IS IT CLOSE TO FINISHED? WHERE IS IT? IT'S WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE FOUNDATION AND THEN WE'VE STARTED THE RESTORATION PROCESS NOW. AND STABILIZATION OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S AT THE BEGINNING. IT IT'S NOT OKAY. IT'S NOT THAT FAR ALONG. WELL YEAH. BEGINNING OF THE RESTORATION. RESTORATION.

YES. YEAH. THE MOVE AND ALL THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN WHICH OBVIOUSLY. HAVE YOU DONE ANY OTHER RENOVATIONS. YES. WHAT ARE THOSE. SO I PROVIDED I THINK SOME OF MY PROPOSAL BUT SO RENOVATIONS MY WIFE AND I, WE HAVE SEVERAL HOMES THROUGHOUT DFW THAT WE RENT OUT.

SO WE'VE DONE PROBABLY ABOUT 5 TO 7 RENOVATIONS. AND THEN BEFORE THAT I WORKED AT THE MUSEUM IN ILLINOIS AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER GLESSNER HOUSE IN CHICAGO, AND HAVE DONE RESTORATIONS AND RENOVATIONS OF VARIOUS HOUSES THERE AS WELL. WOULD WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO SENDING STAFF SOME PHOTOS OF THOSE RENOVATIONS? NO, AND ACTUALLY THAT WAS DONE. I HAVE THEM IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I SENT STEPHANIE SOME OF THOSE IN THERE, AND I'LL SEND YOU SOME. THE ONE WE JUST WENT THROUGH HAD SOME. NO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS IN THE I HAD AS HIDDEN SLIDES, IN CASE YOU ASKED THEM LATER THEN. YES. I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEM AND LOOK. YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN ON ANY OF THE HOUSES THAT YOU HAVE RENOVATED, HAVE ANY OBTAINED A HISTORICAL MARKER? JUST. NO, JUST THIS ONE.

THIS ONE. OKAY. AND THE SCOTT BARKER'S HISTORICAL AND YOU'RE MOVING IT. YES. IT'S NOT SO. IT ALREADY HAS IT. YOU'RE TRYING TO YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT. IT IT HAD A RED ALREADY ALREADY.

AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP IT, WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO DO. BUT IN TERMS OF THE HOUSES THAT

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I DON'T MIND SAYING IT AGAIN. IF WE'VE GOT IT, WE'LL GET IT. AND THAT THAT THAT THAT HELPS.

THANK YOU. ADD SOMETHING. MAY I ADD SOMETHING, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ASKED ME IF HOW MANY HOUSES THAT WE HAD RENOVATED AND WE HAVE BOUGHT. I DIDN'T ASK BECAUSE I COULD SEE, BUT I'M SORRY. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO YOU. 82 HOW MANY HOUSES HAVE YOU? 82 ABSOLUTELY. AND WE'VE ONLY MOVED THAT. I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET. BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNTING. AND WE ALSO SPOKE WITH MR. BRINKMAN ABOUT MAINTAINING THE MARKER. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. WELL I HAD I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT AFTER MY COLLEAGUES, I THINK THEY'VE COVERED THE THE GAMBIT PRETTY WELL AT THIS POINT. AND I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SEVEN OF US THAT SIT UP HERE. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY FINAL DETERMINATIONS THIS EVENING. AS YOU SEE FROM OUR QUESTIONS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY WANT TO REVIEW AND GO THROUGH. THERE'S SOME SPECIFICS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE WANT TO REVIEW AS WELL. MISS ALLEY HAS SOME OF THOSE AS FAR AS LOT RELOCATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS EVENING. OH, WELL, BEFORE I DO THAT, MR. PICKENS, COUNCILMAN PICKENS MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO, COUNCILMAN. YEAH, MY QUESTION MAY BE FOR MISS ALLEY. THIS HAS BEEN A LEARNING PROCESS FOR ME. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS HOUSE BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME DISCUSSIONS, AND I THINK THAT WE DISCUSSED DEED RESTRICTIONS IN ONE OF THE. AND THOSE A COMMENT MADE ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY SOLD IT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT? BUT COULD YOU GO OVER THE PLAN FOR DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THE HOUSE ONCE IT REACHES ITS FINAL DESTINATION? WHOEVER PUTS IT THERE? SO DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE A CONVERSATION WITH WITH WHOEVER OR IF THERE'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH, HOW THAT AGREEMENT IS SET UP FOR THE SALE. THERE CAN BE DEED RESTRICTIONS TO IF WHATEVER THE ENTITY USES THE PROPERTY FOR DOESN'T WORK OUT, THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT. THE DEED RESTRICTIONS COULD BE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE CITY TO GET THAT APPROVAL. THERE WILL ALSO NEED TO BE LANGUAGE IN THERE BECAUSE IT WILL BE LOCATED IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO SOME OVERSIGHT BY THE HISTORIC SOCIETY. SOME OF THAT WOULD JUST SIMPLY BE COVERED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. BUT I THINK THAT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS SHOULD SPELL THAT OUT AS WELL. OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT THE ENTITY CAN NO LONGER TAKE CARE OF IT, DOES IT REVERT BACK TO THE CITY? DOES THE CITY HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL OR APPROVAL? I'M NOT SURE WHICH WORD TO USE, BUT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE IN THERE.

WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL OF HOW THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD WORK, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT THE CITY WANTS, BUT THE ENTITY IS NOT WILLING TO DO OR VICE VERSA. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO BE BEFORE

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OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. 20S OKAY, I WILL, I WILL. I HAVE ALLOWED OTHERS, SO I WILL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK. YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND MISS STORM, I'M EUGENE HARTMAN, 1742 OAK STREET, WYLIE, TEXAS. CITY OF WYLIE, STATE OF TEXAS, GULF, COLORADO. SANTA FE RAILROAD I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL HOW PROUD I AM OF HOW CONSIDERATE YOU ARE TO MY HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE COUNCIL THAT WAS HERE IN THE MAYOR THAT WAS HERE IN 1960 LET THE DEPOT.

THE COLONEL WYLIE CAME IN ON AND FOUNDED BE MOVED 3 OR 4 BLOCKS OVER ON 78, AND NOW IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX YOU GO BY THERE. IT'S MOST BEAUTIFUL DEPOT IN THE WORLD. WE LOST BOTH OUR DEPOTS, WE LOST OUR COTTON BELT DEPOT, AND WE LOST OUR SANTA FE DEPOT. SO I'M REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING A WAY TO KEEP THIS, THIS BEAUTIFUL HOME TURNED IN TO JUST JUST JUST JUST A RENTAL AND KEEP IT IN THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. AND IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO BRING IT TOGETHER, I'M ALL FOR IT. BUT I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT SOME GOOD QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SIR. DON'T FORGET TO PLEASE GRAB YOUR FORM FROM MISS STORM IF YOU WOULD RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO TALK. I TRY TO BE FAIR. IF I ALLOW. IF I ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK, I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY. AND PEOPLE HAVE WAITED AND SPENT TIME. YOU KNOW, I'VE LET YOU SPEAK WITHOUT A FORM BEFORE TOO. SO I BELIEVE THAT CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK, ESPECIALLY IN SOMETHING LIKE A WORK SESSION. SO WITH THAT, I DO BELIEVE I'M GOING TO CHECK FOR LIGHTS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES A SECOND TO SHOW UP IN FRONT OF ME. ALL RIGHT. I THINK EVERYONE HAS ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT HAS COME THIS EVENING. THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WAS PUT IN BY BOTH PARTIES IN GIVING US A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION AND ANSWERING A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR US. AGAIN, THERE'S NO FINAL DECISIONS BEING MADE THIS EVENING. THIS WAS SO THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN AN OPEN SESSION TO SEE THE VISIONS, THOUGHTS, PLANS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND BE ABLE TO ASK YOU ALL QUESTIONS AS WELL, DIRECTLY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS EVENING. WE WILL GET WITH STAFF AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS GO, AND BE SURE TO LET BOTH OF YOU KNOW. AND THAT COULD INCLUDE US SENDING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OVER THAT.

WE, YOU KNOW, SLEEP ON AND COME UP WITH OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION TO YOU ALL AND GIVE EVERYONE PLENTY OF NOTICE WHEN WE WILL NEXT DISCUSS THIS AS A COUNCIL. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS EVENING AND FOR ALL THE TIME PUT IN. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR WORK SESSIONS THIS EVENING. WE WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO REGULAR SESSION AND THEN CONVENE OUT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SECTION FIVE. FIVE ONE MAYOR DO. OH, WE HAVE A SECOND WORK SESSION. I'M WRONG. I'LL MOVE US BACK INTO OUR WORK SESSIONS. BUT I AM GOING TO GIVE US JUST A FIVE MINUTE BREAK HERE BETWEEN. WE

[WS2. Discuss the development process within the City of Wylie. ]

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OKAY. AND THEN THE THIRD THING, THE THIRD SET OF REGULATIONS THAT WE ADOPT ARE THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. AND THAT COVERS THINGS LIKE LOT LINES, ENGINEERING RELATED ITEMS SUCH AS STREETS, EASEMENTS, UTILITIES. BASICALLY THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT'S IN A PLAT. THOSE ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS ARE INITIATED BY STAFF PRNS COUNCIL. ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT KEEPS APPROVING CERTAIN PARTICULAR THINGS BECAUSE OF, OVER TIME, THE THE WISHES OF THE CITIZENS AND THE COUNCIL CHANGE. THEN WE WE TRY TO CHANGE THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF AND WE BRING THAT TO PNC AND COUNCIL AS AS POTENTIAL CHANGES. A GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE USED TO HAVE WHERE YOUR BACK PORCH COULDN'T EXTEND INTO THE BACK PAST THE REAR LOT LINE. SO MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING, WELL,

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HOWEVER, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A NEW PLACE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR IT, WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THEY CAN BUILD DRIVE THRUS OR HOW MANY. YES, SIR. WE JUST CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT BUSINESS THEY THEN SELL THAT TO FOR DOING BUSINESS. SO THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, A LOT OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE ON CAR WASHES, DRIVE THRUS AND SEVERAL OTHER CATEGORIES LIKE THAT THAT HAVE COME INTO BEING IN THE LAST 3 TO 5 YEARS. AND SO PROPERTIES THAT ALREADY HAD APPROVAL IN THE PAST RETAIN THAT APPROVAL AS LONG AS THEY KEEP THAT USE. THAT IS CORRECT. SO IN MANY CASES, RECENT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT WERE APPROVED MANY YEARS AGO AND HAVE JUST NOW BEEN FINISHED. YES, SIR. BUT WE HAVE PUT THOSE IN PLACE AS A COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR FUTURE. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS IN HERE. IS PROPERTY VESTED PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THERE ARE SOME PLACES IN TOWN THAT FOLKS HAVE THINGS THAT THEY CAN BUILD BY, RIGHT, THAT WE COUNCIL. THEY DON'T NEED TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY 2000 AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHTFULLY SO. IF A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY GET A PLAN DEVELOPMENT SET, YOU KNOW, IF IT TAKES THEM A LITTLE LONGER THAN MAYBE THEY HAD PLANNED, THEY SHOULD STILL HAVE THAT ABILITY TO BUILD WHAT WAS APPROVED AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR FEET SWEPT OUT FROM UNDER THEM, SO TO SPEAK. AS LONG AS THEY STICK TO THE PLAN. COUNCILMAN STRANG? YEAH. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ON ZONING, IS SO IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE STATE, THE COUNTY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVEN WANTS TO COME IN AND BUILD CERTAIN THINGS, HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO OUR DECISIONS IN ZONING? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF USE AND WHO IT IS FOR, FOR WHAT IT IS, SO TO SPEAK. I COULD USE THE COLLEGE AS AN EXAMPLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO LET THE COLLEGE BUILD THERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ANOTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITY. IT WAS GOOD FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO. IF THE FAA DECIDES THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD AN AIRPORT HERE, OR IF THE RAILROAD, YOU KNOW, WHICH ISN'T EVEN AN ACTUAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY, DECIDES THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEY HAVE VESTED RIGHTS TO GO BACK TO THE 1800S FOR CERTAIN THINGS. SO WE HAVE CONTROL OVER CERTAIN ITEMS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT STATE LAW IS. SO IT DEPENDS. YEAH. IT DEPENDS. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANKS FOR FOR THOSE ZONING PURPOSES, THE RAILROAD MIGHT AS WELL BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YES. THEY I THINK HAVE MORE POWER THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SEEMS LIKE IT. SO FROM MY FROM FROM OUR INTERACTIONS, THEY CAN IGNORE FEDERAL LAW AS WELL AS ANY STATE OR LOCAL ZONING. ALL RIGHT. SO SOMEBODY GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OR, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES KIND OF INFORMATION. SO LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES IN OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S PLANNING ON DOING SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF WYLIE, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A PREDEVELOPMENT PROCESS. YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM A 2000 SQUARE FOOT DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE TO JUST A CITIZEN WANTING TO PUT A SHED IN THEIR BACKYARD. WE HANDLE ALL OF THAT AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. YOU KNOW, THEY COME INTO PLANNING WILL THEY'LL CONTACT US, WHETHER IT'S A DEVELOPER, PROPERTY OWNER, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALREADY KIND OF GONE THROUGH THE EDC PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND AND THEN THEY'LL COME TO PLANNING AND TRY TO MOVE THAT, THAT FURTHER ALONG. A VAST MAJORITY OF THESE THIS CONTACT IS ONE AND DONE. THE MAYOR KIND OF ALLUDED TO THAT WHEN WE HAD OUR PLANNING PROCLAMATION A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND FINDS OUT THAT THE ZONING IS NOT RIGHT. I GET PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS ALL THE TIME FROM IT FEELS LIKE SOMEBODY JUST WAS ZOOMING AROUND ON A MAP, YOU KNOW, THE GOOGLE MAPS, AND THEY SAW AN AERIAL AND THEY SAW AN EMPTY PIECE OF LAND, AND THEY DECIDED TO MAKE A PHONE CALL BECAUSE THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DONE THEIR HOMEWORK YET, AND THAT'S FINE. THEN WE GET MANY MORE PROJECTS, DIE AT THE DUE DILIGENCE. THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOING THEIR HOMEWORK, THEY GET TO A CERTAIN POINT THEY'LL CAN DIE AT THE PROPERTY ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE, UTILITIES, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS WE GET. WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT COME IN FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE THE UTILITIES LIKE ON THIS? OR WHERE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE ON THIS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE PROCESS THOSE AND HELP FOLKS DETERMINE WHETHER SOMETHING CAN MOVE FORWARD OR NOT. DOES IT PENCIL THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE TALK FOR CAN THEY MAKE IT PROFITABLE AT THE END OF THE DAY SOMETIMES WITHOUT EITHER EDC HELP OR SOME OTHER KIND OF SITUATIONS, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK OUT FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND THEN WHAT THEY'LL TALK ABOUT, WHETHER THEY GET STAFF SUPPORT OR NOT. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF DEVELOPERS THAT MOVE ON. WE HAVE THE GOOD PROJECTS THAT MEET WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET BETTER AND BETTER AND

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AND SO WE TRY TO TALK THEM OUT OF IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL CAN. WHICH LEADS US TO THIS, OUR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. GO TO LINE TWO RIGHT AWAY REVIEWED BY PLANNING FOR COMPLETENESS. AND IF IT'S COMPLETE STATE LAW SAYS I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT. SO WHETHER I TELL THEM, HEY, I DON'T THINK COUNCIL AND PNC ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS VERY MUCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A COMPLETE APPLICATION BASED ON WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS IS A COMPLETE APPLICATION, I HAVE TO TAKE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT LAST YEAR, ONE OF OUR PROUD ACCOMPLISHMENTS WAS NOT ONLY DID WE AUTOMATE OUR PROCESS FOR INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY AND EFFICIENCY, BUT THAT PIECE OF SOFTWARE IS NOW BEING USED BY FIRE AND ENGINEERING AND OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT, SO EVERYTHING'S PRETTY WELL INTEGRATED. WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH A FEW HICCUPS HERE AND THERE TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A LOT BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE WHERE WE WERE JUST SHOOTING EMAILS BACK AND FORTH AND PDFS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GETTING THE JOB DONE, BUT WE'RE GETTING IT DONE FASTER AND A LOT BETTER. I FEEL LIKE. SO IF AN APPLICATION DOES COME IN ONCE PLANNING HAS SAID IT'S COMPLETE, THEN WE SEND IT OUT TO PLANNING OR WELL, YOU KNOW, PLANNING OBVIOUSLY USES IT, BUT FIRE ENGINEERING AND BUILDING FOR COMPLIANCE. SO THAT BASICALLY MEANS DOES THIS MEET WHAT OUR ORDINANCE SAYS. YOU KNOW, PLANNING AND ENGINEERING ARE LOOKING AT THE SUBDIVISION REGS, THE DESIGN MANUALS, THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND BUILDING OR FIRE AND BUILDING ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE AND THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S ALSO SENT TO OTHER AGENCIES IF REQUIRED. IF IT'S ON 78, FOR EXAMPLE, 544 BROWN STREET, WE MAKE SURE THAT NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT GETS A HOLD OF IT SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY NEED BECAUSE THEY GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME MAJOR WATER LINES THAT RUN THROUGH HERE OR IF ESPECIALLY IF IT'S HOUSING, WE MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS SEEN IT. ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE REVIEWING PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR THING IS STILL A WAYS OUT. THE BEST PROGRAM THAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW BASICALLY CAN CHECK THE APPLICATION FOR COMPLIANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A DOCUMENT UPLOADED IN EVERY SPOT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOCUMENT AND UPLOADED? AND DO THOSE DOCUMENTS HAVE THE GENERAL THINGS LIKE A NORTH ARROW, OR IS THERE A GRAPHIC IN THE MIDDLE? BUT EVERY CITY HAS DIFFERENT ZONING ORDINANCES AND DIFFERENT SUBDIVISION REGS. SO THE SPECIFICS OF THOSE, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR IT. I MEAN, WE'VE PROBABLY GOT FIVE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO I SHOULDN'T PROBABLY EVEN SAY A NUMBER. BUT WE GOT A LOT OF YEARS LEFT BEFORE AI IS ABLE TO DO THIS AT THIS LEVEL. FOR THIS, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENCES, I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE BIG CITIES WILL BE ABLE TO ADOPT IT QUICKER THAN SOME OF THE SMALLER CITIES, JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE SCALE, YOU KNOW, OF FINANCE SCALE THERE, COUNCILMAN STRAIN. YES, SIR.

THAT'S FINE WITH ME. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL THAT'S GOOD. IT MEANS MY AND MY STAFF HAVE JOB SECURITY THEN. SO WHAT KIND OF ZONING CHANGES? ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WILL COME THROUGH TO COUNCIL IS ZONING CHANGES. AFTER WE GO THROUGH THAT PREDEVELOPMENT PROCESS, STRAIGHT ZONING, SPECIAL USE PERMITS AND PLAN DEVELOPMENTS. STRAIGHT ZONING IS OBVIOUSLY JUST STRAIGHT ZONING. THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING SPECIFIC. THEY JUST WANT TO GO SAY IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND THEY WANT TO GO TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WANT A LITTLE MORE OF AN INTENSIVE USE OR THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MARKET IT MAYBE. AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN JANUARY. WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT SOMEBODY WHO HAD A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THEY WANT TO STRIP THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND JUST GO TO STRAIGHT ZONING, BECAUSE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE BY SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S NO LONGER RELEVANT TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS JUST ONE PARTICULAR USE THAT REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL ON ONE PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. YOU KNOW THAT DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS, GAS STATIONS, CAR WASHES, ALL THE THINGS WE KIND OF JUST TALKED ABOUT. PLAN DEVELOPMENTS ARE MUCH MORE INTRICATE. USUALLY IT HAS TO DO WITH GETTING MULTIPLE LOTS TOGETHER WITH MULTIPLE USES AND MAYBE BREAKING SOME OF THE RULES FOR THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. IT'S JUST THE ZONING ORDINANCE CAN'T ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO, ESPECIALLY OURS. YOU KNOW, IT STARTED IN 2003. THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES AND THE FOLKS THAT AND HOW THINGS ARE BUILT AND

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THAT WON'T REQUIRE IT. SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ZONING CHANGES. LOOKING AT ME LIKE YOU HAD A QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.

OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I MOVE ON. SO PLATS. OH. GO BACK. ZONING CHANGES ARE LEGISLATIVE. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S THE THAT IS THE TIME THOUGH FOR THE BIG PICTURE STUFF LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T WANT THIS PARTICULAR USE ALLOWED AND COUNCIL'S DONE THAT ON MANY A TIMES AND RIGHTFULLY SO. YOU KNOW THAT'S FINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ZONE THIS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR WE'RE GOING TO DO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THESE USES, BUT WE WANT TO EXCLUDE THESE OTHER USES JUST FROM EVER BEING POSSIBLE FROM THOSE AREAS. AND A LOT OF IT MIGHT HAVE TO DO WITH RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. YOU'RE DOING A COMMERCIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. I JUST DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO INTO ANYTHING THAT MAY BE BE HARMFUL TO THE PROPERTY VALUES FOR THE RESIDENTS. OKAY. PLATS, THOSE ARE GOVERNED BY THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, COVERS LOT SIZES, AS IT SAYS, STREET FRONTAGES, ACCESS EASEMENTS, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PNC MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. THOSE ARE GENERALLY MINISTERIAL. THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF LEGISLATIVE. THAT PARTICULAR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE RIGHT THERE SAYS THAT IF A IF A PLAT IS CORRECT BY THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, IT MUST BE APPROVED. IF COUNCIL WERE TO WANT TO DENY IT, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO THIS AT THE STAFF LEVEL MOST OF THE TIME BEFORE Y'ALL EVER SEE IT. WE TELL FOLKS LIKE, LOOK, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, IT'S GOING TO BE DENIED. AND HERE'S THE AND WE HAVE TO POINT TO THE EXACT REGULATION IN THE SUBDIVISION REGS THAT SAY WHY IT'S GOING TO BE DENIED IF THEY CAN'T FIX IT IN TIME. WE'RE USUALLY PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING THEM WITHDRAW THAT ITEM. AND SO THAT WAY WE DON'T PUT COUNCIL IN AN AWKWARD POSITION OF HAVING TO TO DENY IT. THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE ME COME UP FORWARD SOMETIMES AND SAY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTED TO WITHDRAW. IF WE DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE POINT TO SPECIFICALLY FOR DENIAL OR FOR, IT'S ALSO CALLED A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. THEN IF THAT ITEM ONLY GETS FIXED, THEN THE ENTIRE PLAT HAS TO BE APPROVED.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE DO GO THAT ROUTE, WHICH IS WHY I USUALLY ASK THEM TO WITHDRAW IS. SO THAT WAY WE DON'T END UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. POSSIBLY THAT'S IN THE PLAT THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE FIXED. I THINK WE ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN ONE COMMENT. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENGINEERING THING, WE GET ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND COMMENTS. WE GOT TO HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMENTS TOGETHER AND WE GOT TO BE ALL ON, YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND HAVE THE EVERYTHING WE WOULD USE TO DENY THAT PLAT, BECAUSE IF WE SAY WE'RE THIS, THERE'S ONLY TWO THINGS WRONG WITH IT.

AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT WITH ONLY THOSE TWO THINGS WRONG WITH IT, AND THEN WE FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO LATER IT BY STATE LAW. TOO BAD. YEAH. SO PRELIMINARY PLATS, THOSE ARE THE FIRST. YOU KNOW, THE LAND'S PRETTY VACANT. IT JUST ESTABLISHES THE BOUNDARY LINES AND THE PROPOSED STREETS, UTILITIES, ALL THOSE SORT OF THINGS. AND IT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE DURING CIVIL REVIEW AND DURING CONSTRUCTION. THEY GO OUT AND FIND OUT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T PUT THAT LINE, THAT WATER LINE HERE. WE HAVE TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. THEN IT IS ALLOWED. STAFF HAS THE AUTHORITY BASED ON THE SUBDIVISION REGS TO ALLOW CERTAIN CHANGES. THAT BEING SAID, THOSE CHANGES ARE PRESENTED WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINAL PLAT. THE FINAL PLAT CREATES THOSE BOUNDARIES. IT'S BASICALLY AN AS BUILT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PLAT. THIS IS WHERE THE EASEMENTS ARE. THIS IS WHERE THE STREETS ARE. THIS IS WHERE THE LOT LINES ARE. AND THAT IS RECORDED AT THE COUNTY AS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT SITE PLANS. COUNCIL ONLY SEES THOSE IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO AN SP AND INCLUDES THEIR SITE PLAN AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. SOME FOLKS ARE JUST IN A HURRY.

THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT IN ALL THAT WORK AHEAD OF TIME. IT'S GOVERNED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND PNC HAS APPROVAL, I'M SORRY, APPROVAL AUTHORITY THAT COVERS ALL THE BULK REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHTS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AND THAT IS ALSO

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AND IF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE FIXED, THEN THAT PLAT OR THAT SITE PLAN HAS TO BE APPROVED.

ONE THING I CAN SAY, THOUGH, IS THAT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY IN HERE BECAUSE IN OUR, OUR IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE 13 CONDITIONS THAT PNC CAN USE IN ORDER TO APPROVE OR DENY AND LIKE ONE OF THEM IS ENHANCES OR IS DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. WELL, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF GRAY, I DON'T SAY GRAY AREA, A LITTLE BIT OF JUDGMENT THAT CAN BE USED THERE LIKE A PLAT. IT'S EITHER RIGHT OR IT'S WRONG. SO WITH THE SITE PLANS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN USE IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET THE DEVELOPER TO DO THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE VISION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS. ONCE ALL THE APPROVALS ARE IN PLACE, IF IT'S ZONING, WE DO A ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE. YES, SIR. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IF IT'S PLATTING, THEN THE MAYOR AND THE PNC COMMISSIONER HAVE TO SIGN THEM. AND THEN THEY GO TO THE COUNTY FOR FILING. IF IT'S A SITE PLAN, IT GOES TO CIVIL PLANS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING.

ENGINEERING IS RESPONSIBLE IS RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE GUIDED, THOUGH BY THE DESIGN MANUAL AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. I MEAN, YOU SEE EVERYTHING THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND THEN BEFORE THEY ACCEPT IT, IT DOES GO TO PLANNING, FIRE ENGINEERING AND SOMETIMES PARKS FOR STAFF DIRECTOR LEVEL SIGNATURES THAT YES, THIS WAS BUILT THE WAY COUNCIL DIRECTED OR THE ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS THE PD DEVELOPMENT THIS THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WHATEVER. AND THEN ONCE THE SITE IS IN PLACE, THEN THERE'S BUILDING PLANS THAT GOES TO MY BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE. AND IT'S GUIDED BY THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE. AND ALL THOSE CODES AND REGULATIONS ARE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED OTHER PLACES BY EXPERTS IN THOSE FIELDS, BUT THEY ALL ARE ULTIMATELY PRESENTED BY STAFF TO COUNCIL FOR AND THEY BECOME ORDINANCES. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING FROM WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, FIRE CODE, BUILDING CODE IS ALL AN ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED. WE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE SITE PLAN, ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS, AND THEN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY GOES OUT AND THAT GOES OUT. ALSO BUILDING FIRE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING. AND ALL FOUR OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT SEAL BEFORE SOMEBODY CAN OCCUPY THAT BUILDING. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STIRRING. YEAH. SO SO I THINK SOMETIMES THIS IS WHERE IT SEEMS CONFUSING, EVEN TO MYSELF, BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT SITE PLANS. WE DENY THINGS, OR RATHER, WE MAKE WE CRAFT MOTIONS BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, FACING AND ALL THAT KIND OF SCREENING, ETC. YES, SIR. SO IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE STILL BUT IT LOOKED LIKE ON YOUR SLIDE THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT IT'S REALLY PNC THAT'S APPROVING IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL COMES TO US. AND WE'VE BEEN KNOWN TO MAKE CHANGES. WHEN YOU SEE A SITE PLAN, IT IS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. OKAY. AND THE APPLICANT HAS SAID, I AM GOING TO DO ALL OF THAT ENGINEERING WORK AHEAD OF TIME AND GET YOU A DOCUMENT THAT YOU COULD USE AS A SITE PLAN, BECAUSE I'M THAT CONFIDENT THAT COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS. WE DON'T RECOMMEND DOING IT, BUT SOME FOLKS HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO IT. AND THOSE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SOMETIMES WE AND THEN YOU. YES, BECAUSE IT BECOMES IT BECOMES LEGISLATIVE AT THAT POINT. AND YOU CAN OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. YES, SIR. AND THEN THAT GIVES COUNCIL MUCH MORE OF AN OPTION IN THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT. OKAY. COOL. THANK YOU. YEAH. OTHERWISE IF IT'S SOMEBODY GOES TO THAT SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS AND THEN THEY DO THE SITE PLAN SEPARATELY, YOU ALL NEVER SEE THAT SITE PLAN TO VOTE ON. YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN THE AGENDA OR THE AGENDA OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL THE POST APPROVALS. AND THEN TWO THINGS I KIND OF WANTED TO COVER WAS PRE-MEETING QUESTIONS. I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHEN I DO GET THOSE.

IT JUST ALLOWS STAFF TO PROVIDE BETTER ANSWERS. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW IT ALL, BUT I YOU KNOW, I KNOW I DON'T. AND YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST AND WE CAN PROVIDE COUNSEL BETTER DIRECTION SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE BETTER DECISIONS WHEN WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE MEETING. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT, BUT THERE ARE ONCE A YEAR THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE DFW AREA THAT PROVIDE PLANNING AND ZONING SPECIFIC TRAINING FOR COMMISSIONERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, ONES PUT ON BY THE COG. AND THE OTHER ONE IS PUT ON BY, I BELIEVE IT'S CNU, THE CONGRESS FOR NEW URBANISM. AND SO IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ATTEND THAT, PLEASE GET WITH MR. PARKER AND HE'LL GET WITH ME AND I'LL FIGURE OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, I'LL GET YOU THE DATES AND ALL THE THINGS. AND THEN THIS IS MY MY STAFF. I DO WANT

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COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS RECOMMENDATION. YES, SIR. CAN I ASK OKAY, SO MR. PARKER WANTED ME TO TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS REAL QUICK. SO ON PLATS AND ZONING CASES, PLANNING AND ZONING, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION SEES THOSE FIRST. THEY DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO COUNCIL. IF THEY DO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, IT DOES TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO OVERRIDE THAT ON ZONING CASES ONLY, NOT ON PLATS, BECAUSE PLATS ARE MINISTERIAL AT THAT POINT. BUT THE LEGISLATIVE PARTS. THEY ALSO CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR ZONING CASE OR DENIAL BASED ON CERTAIN CONDITIONS. AND THEN COUNCIL CAN TAKE THOSE CONDITIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO AS THEY SEE FIT. AND ABOUT. THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE AGENDA REPORT IS NOT OURS. OH YES.

THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS STAFF. WELL I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I DID WANT TO POINT THIS OUT AND I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT. STAFF MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO PNC. WHEN YOU SEE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE REPORT THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOT MY NAME AS HAVING WRITTEN THAT REPORT THAT IS WRITTEN BASED ON CONVERSATIONS DURING THE PNC MEETING, AND THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU GET IN YOUR REPORT IS PA'S RECOMMENDATION, NOT NECESSARILY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCILMAN, ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? WELL, YOU WERE ON STAFF. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, OUT OF CURIOSITY, DOES PNC STAFF, DO THEY DO ANY TRAINING IN BPI, WHICH I THINK IS THE BUILDING PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTE, ONE THAT IS AT UTA. DOES PLANNING STAFF WE HAVE. WELL, OKAY. I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REQUIRED BECAUSE I'M A CERTIFIED. I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO ONGOING EDUCATION. BUT ALL OF MY STAFF DOES SOME KIND OF CONTINUING EDUCATION. OKAY, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF Y'ALL EVER DID THAT ONE, JUST HAVING BEEN THERE AND HOW BIG IT IS AND ALL IT IS, I, I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE THAT SPECIFIC ONE. I'LL SEND YOU A LINK TO IT JUST TO LOOK AT IT. YEAH, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO WALKING THROUGH THIS WITH SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT YOU HIT, MAYBE AT A SLIGHTLY LESS TECHNICAL LEVEL, AND KIND OF MAKING IT POSTED VIDEO THAT COULD BE SHARED PUBLICLY? PEOPLE CAN GO AND LOOK AT THIS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THERE'S OFTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS AROUND IT. I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT OFTEN CAUSES A LOT OF CONSTERNATION AND DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. IF THERE WAS A WAY TO CONDENSE DOWN TO 5 OR 10 MINUTE, MAYBE A FIVE MINUTE LITTLE SHORT VIDEO OF UNDERSTANDING HOW ZONING AND HOW BUSINESSES COMING IN WORK OR HOW DEVELOPMENTS WORK. YES, SIR. AND JUST HIGHLIGHTING THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN PICK. THIS IS WHAT THE LAW SAYS. YOU CAN'T PICK GENERIC, SPECIFIC, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE I THINK TO THE POINT YOU MADE AT THE BEGINNING, THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING AT TIMES. YES, SIR. AND I THINK IF THERE WAS AN EASY PLACE TO REFER, AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE TRYING TO COMMENT BACK AND FORTH ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IF THERE WAS A VIDEO PUT OUT THAT SAID STATE LAW, THIS SAYS THAT THIS IS THIS IS LEGISLATIVE, WHICH MEANS IT'S DISCRETIONARY AND A DECISION CAN BE MADE. THIS IS NOT ONCE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR IS IN PLACE. ANYTHING UNDER THAT IS ALLOWED, NO MATTER WHETHER WE HAVE 20 OF THEM OR NOT. YES, SIR. IT SOUNDS SILLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE OR WHATEVER, WHERE SOMEONE CAN JUST LINK THEM TO OR TURN THEM TO IT, THEN THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO TAKE SOME OTHER PERSON'S WORD FOR IT. THEY CAN GO. AND IF THEY TRULY HAVE QUESTIONS, AS LONG AS IT HAS LITTLE REFERENCES WRITTEN IN ON THE SLIDES OR BOTTOM OF THE VIDEO. I KNOW CRAIG AND CHRISTINA. THEY'RE NOT HERE SO WE CAN VOLUNTEER THEM. THEY'RE GREAT. THEY'RE GREAT. I MEAN, THEY DO IT FOR US ON FACEBOOK WITH THE LITTLE LINKS OR THE,

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OKAY. YES, SIR. WE DO. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH. I TRY TO HIT MOST OF THE COMMUNITY LEADERS AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR WITH A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ROTARY CLUB OR THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION OR LEADERSHIP WILEY OR CAREER DAY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN THOSE FOLKS SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT.

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. BUT I DO LIKE THE VIDEO IDEA, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT DONE. YEAH. AND AGAIN, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DO A GOOD JOB WITH OUTREACH. IT'S JUST FOR THE YES, SIR. THE PEOPLE WHO KIND OF DO A A QUICK STOP BY WHEN SOMETHING IS HAPPENING TO LET THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU GO HERE, IT'LL EXPLAIN THIS IN BETTER DETAIL THAN I CAN. YES, SIR. FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE AS INVOLVED, BUT TRULY, AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR, I'M THE WORST CITY PLANNER THAT EVER EXISTED, ACCORDING TO FACEBOOK.

SO? SO. BUT IT'S JUST A THOUGHT OF SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT DOING THAT AGAIN. THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO RECREATE THE WHEEL EVERY TIME WITH AN EXPLANATION.

YOU CAN JUST GO, HEY, IT'S ALL EXPLAINED HERE. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT CARE, BUT THERE WILL BE PLENTY. I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE IN THE PAST WHO GO, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. OKAY, SO IT MIGHT JUST BE USEFUL. ALL RIGHT. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. COUNCILMAN STRANG. YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TERM LEGISLATIVE, BUT IF I CAN JUST KIND OF. AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, IF I CAN KIND OF SUMMARIZE MINISTERIAL ESSENTIALLY, AND TO USE A TERRIBLE COLLOQUIAL COLLOQUIALISM, THAT'S A RUBBER STAMP IN. YES, SIR. IN ESSENCE.

RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COOL. I REALLY LIKE THIS PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY. IT WAS REALLY NICE.

THANK YOU. VERY ACCESSIBLE. THANK YOU, MR. PARKER. HE'S THE ONE THAT ASKED ME TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE USEFUL. THANK YOU, MR. PARKER. ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO JOIN COUNCILMAN STRANG IN SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS MUCH NEEDED JUST EXPLAINING SOME OF THE FORMATS AND SOME THINGS. FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, THOUGH, IF I'M PUTTING MY DEVELOPER HAND, THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ZONING, THE SITE PLAN, THE PLAT IN ALL THREE SEPARATE MEETINGS, GETTING IT DONE, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET IT THROUGH BETWEEN PNC COUNCIL AND ALL THAT. IT'S A DRAG OUT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS UNTIL YOU GET TO THE ENGINEERING. SO WHY ARE WE NOT SHORTENING THAT? I KNOW OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, WHERE ZONING ORDINANCE, SITE PLAN AND PLAT ARE BACK TO, BACK TO BACK IN TERMS OF A PROJECT, AND I GET THE NUANCES OF IT, THAT ZONING MAY NOT GET APPROVED. SO THEN YOU HAVE NO SITE PLAN AND NO PLAT PER SE, BUT THAT TAKES THREE MINUTES.

IF ZONING IS NOT APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD FROM IT VERSUS TAKING ABOUT A MONTH OR SIX WEEKS, POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER FOR ZONING TO GET APPROVED, SITE PLAN TO GET APPROVED AND THEN PLAT. SO THE FIRST THING I CAN SAY IS, AS FAR AS THE ZONING GOES, OUR OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS THAT I AM NOT ALLOWED BY LAW TO TAKE A SITE PLAN UNTIL THE ZONING IS CORRECT AND IN PLACE. CORRECT. BUT SO I CAN'T I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT IT. THEORETICALLY, I CANNOT TAKE THAT APPLICATION UNTIL THAT ZONING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN AND PLAT GOES, STATE LAW SAYS THAT A LOT HAS TO EXIST BEFORE A SITE PLAN CAN BE APPROVED. SO I CANNOT. NOW WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS WE WILL TAKE THEM. WE WILL RUN THEM CONCURRENTLY IN ORDER TO SAVE TIME WITH A SITE PLAN AND PLAT. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A A PRELIMINARY PLAT AND A SITE PLAN WILL GO TO PNC. AND ASSUMING THAT PNC RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THE PLAT AND ACCEPTS ACCEPTS THE SITE PLAN. AND ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES THAT PLAT, THEN I CAN TAKE THE CIVIL PLANS THAT ARE BASED ON THAT SITE. SO DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO CHANGE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT THE DEVELOPERS CAN PROCESS, OR ZONING CHANGE SITE PLAN, AND A PLAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I WILL BE BRINGING BEFORE COUNCIL THIS NEXT YEAR IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN. BECAUSE IF I'M CORRECT, SOME OF THE CITIES DO HAVE THAT ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THAT SPEEDS UP THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A FEW WEEKS. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT APPEARS TO BE IT. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND GIVING THIS PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT I KNOW FOR BOTH COUNCIL AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY WATCH IT LATER, I THINK IT WILL BE VERY USEFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR WORK SESSIONS NOW. AND SO WE'LL

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OAK. REGENCY STEEL. STATE HIGHWAY 78. STATE HWY 78 BIRMINGHAM. STATE HIGHWAY 78, BROWN. STATE HIGHWAY 78, KRAMER AND STATE HIGHWAY 78 SKYVIEW AND UNDER SECTION 551.087.

DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS IS TWO. DELIBERATION REGARDING COMMERCIAL OR FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT THE WEDC HAS RECEIVED FROM A BUSINESS PROSPECT, AND TO DISCUSS THE OFFER OF INCENTIVES FOR PROJECTS. 2020 2-1B 2022 DASH 20 2020 31C 2020 45A 2020 4-7, G 20 2412 C 2020 5-4A 20 2540 2020 5-5, G 2020 55H 2020 5-8I 2020 5-9B 2020 5-9D 2025 TEN C 2025 TEN E 2025 TEN. F 2025. DASH 11 A 20 2511 E 20 2511 F 2025 DASH 11, G 20 2511 H 20 2511 I 2025 DASH 11, J 2025 DASH 12 A, 2025 DASH 12 B

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MINOR USE. PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025 4445. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE AS HERE TWO FOR AMENDED SO AS TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ZONING CASE NUMBER 2025 DASH 13 FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2022 DASH 38, PD 2022 DASH 38 TO ALLOW FOR A MODIFIED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ZONING CASE 20 2513 PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILMAN STRING? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILMAN PERKINS? SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARR

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