[00:00:02] READY? ALL RIGHT, SIR? WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. OKAY. OKAY. THE TIME IS NOW. 601 DECEMBER 2ND, [CALL TO ORDER] 2025. CALL TO ORDER. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. FIRST UP IS THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER GOOCH AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MYSELF. PLEASE RISE. FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY YOU GIVE US TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF WYLIE AND THIS COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT. PLEASE BE WITH EACH OF US TONIGHT WHILE EVALUATING THE PROPOSALS. REQUESTS BROUGHT BEFORE US. GIVE US WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING IN ALL WE DO TONIGHT. WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OKAY. NEXT UP IS COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO TALK OR SPEAK ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME UP AND DO [CONSENT AGENDA] SO AT THE DAIS. OTHERWISE, SINCE NOBODY'S STANDING UP, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S THREE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE PULLED OFF TO DISCUSS? IF NOT, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED. I SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES 6 TO 1. NOT VOTING. OKAY. NEXT UP, REGULAR AGENDA ITEM [1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change of zoning to amend Planned Development 2024-10 to a Planned Development (PD) with single family detached, commercial development and open space on 25.037 acres, generally located at 605 Country Club Road (ZC2025-16) ] NUMBER ONE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE OF ZONING TO AMEND PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2024 DASH TEN TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD WITH SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN SPACE ON 25.037 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED AT 605 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, ZC 20 2516 MR. MOLINA YES, GOOD EVENING. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT. THIS IS FOR A COLLEGE PARK LOCATED NEAR 605 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD. THIS IS JUST NORTH OF FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO. ESSENTIALLY, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO REMOVE THE TOWNHOME ASPECT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND INCREASE THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO 67 LOTS. THOSE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE 10,000FT■!, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR SF 1024 REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE ALSO AMENDING THE FRONTAGE TO BE A 20,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. I DO HAVE THE OLD PLAN SO Y'ALL CAN COMPARE IT. AND BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO VISUALLY SEE WHAT THE CHANGES ARE. SO THIS IS THE OLDER PLAN ON THE SOUTH SIDE. YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY HAVE THE TOWNHOMES WITH THIS. AND THEN THEY DID HAVE AN AMENITY CENTER ALONG THE FRONTAGE TO THIS NEW PLAN. GETS RID OF THE AMENITY CENTER, GETS RID OF THE TOWNHOMES AND STILL HAS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT ALONG COUNTRY CLUB. SO THOSE REALLY WERE THE CHANGES THAT THE PD CONDITIONS HAVE. THEY ARE ALSO ASKING FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF WINDOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FURTHER NORTH NORTH RESIDENCES. WITH THE PREVIOUS PD, THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE WINDOWS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH THE PRIVACY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH, BUT THIS DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR WINDOWS TO BE ALLOWED AS LONG AS THEY'RE ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND AS THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY NOT GOING TO BE USED TO TO SEE OUT LIKE FROM A SECOND STORY, IT'S MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT FOR LIGHTING, FOR VISUAL LIGHTING. THE DEVELOPER ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION WHERE THEY CAN KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT MORE DETAILED, BUT THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE DID MAIL 47 NOTICES AND RECEIVED TWO IN OPPOSITION. AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE X'S ARE LISTED ON THE MAP. THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SHOULD LET THE APPLICANT PRESENT THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEN GO FROM THERE. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THE APPLICANT'S HERE. [00:05:13] OKAY OKAY. IT'S A LITTLE. GIVE IT A LITTLE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE SLOW OKAY. AWESOME. WELL HEY GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION AGAIN ADDISON RODGERS, TOLL BROTHERS DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY PLANNING. IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE. AS I SAID LAST TIME, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M A PROUD PARENT OF A FUTURE WILEY EAST RAIDER. SO IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE AND GOOD TO BE HOME. YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS? ABSOLUTELY SORRY. ADDISON RODGERS, 255 SOUTHWEST GRAPEVINE PARKWAY, GRAPEVINE, TEXAS. WITH THAT GOAL TONIGHT, GUYS, IS JUST TO GO THROUGH. OBVIOUSLY WE DID OUR WORKSHOP A COUPLE MONTHS BACK. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF. WE'LL GO THROUGH JUST KIND OF RECAP WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT TIME. AND THEN ALSO KIND OF TALK THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE WORKED ON SINCE WITH YOUR STAFF AND HOPEFULLY BRING THIS HOME IN A GOOD PLACE FOR YOU GUYS. SLIDE WAS IN THE PRESENTATION FOR OUR WORKSHOP AS WELL. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED IN 1967, ORIGINALLY IN BUCKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA. FORTUNE 500 HOME BUILDER. WE ARE THE 10TH LARGEST BUILDER IN THE NATION BY VOLUME, FOURTH LARGEST BY REVENUE. IF YOU TALK TO OUR CEO, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THINGS TERMS THROWN AROUND LIKE DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURE. WE'LL TALK ON THAT HERE IN JUST A SECOND UNRIVALED CHOICE, EXEMPLARY CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PRESTIGIOUS LOCATIONS, LOCATIONS LIKE WYLIE, TEXAS, AS THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AS A COMPANY AND IMPORTANT TO US AS WE LOOK AT NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND NEW DIRECTION AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR FOOTPRINT. WE DID HOLD TWO COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS JUST DOWN AT THE LIBRARY. I WILL SAY NEITHER ONE OF THEM WAS BROADLY OR WIDELY ATTENDED. WE ONLY HAD A COUPLE ATTENDEES AT EACH OF THOSE TWO MEETINGS, BUT IN THOSE WE DID COVER THE PROJECT EXTENSIVELY. THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, AT LEAST ONE OF THE TWO MEETINGS WAS AN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKING KIND OF ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES FELT VERY POSITIVE WITH THE ESPECIALLY THE ELIMINATION OF THAT AMENITY CENTER ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ELIMINATION OF THE TOWNHOUSE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A LOWER DENSITY ACROSS THE BOARD. THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT FROM PRESIDENTIAL STATES WAS WAS POSITIVE IN TOTAL, GOING BACK TO WHERE WE WERE DURING WORKSHOP, STAFF ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT A LITTLE BIT. BIGGEST PIECES ELIMINATION OF THE TOWNHOUSES, TOTAL REDUCTION FROM 82 TO WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS 68 LOTS. WE WERE LOOKING TO ELIMINATE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. AGAIN. REASON THERE WAS SIMPLE WE ARE HERE TO BUILD HOMES, AND WE FEEL LIKE OUR SECTION OF THIS WILL DRIVE THAT COMMERCIAL SECTION AS WELL. BEFORE I FINISH UP TONIGHT, I DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE OWNERSHIP FROM DOCTOR COMM WHO CAN SPEAK TO KIND OF THAT COMMERCIAL IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THAT AS WELL. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE WINDOWS HERE IN A MINUTE. ONE OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT'S IN THIS DECK WAS ALREADY PRESENTED ON THE SCREEN. I'VE GOT A COUPLE MORE I'LL SHOW YOU TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THERE. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE WAS JUST THAT ENTRY FENCING WAY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, OF LOWERING THAT FROM AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE DOWN TO A SIX FOOT FENCE. THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ON THE SCREEN. SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WAS PREVIOUSLY. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT. I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AS FAR AS WINDOWS GO. I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. SO THIS IS STANDING IN THE GREAT ROOM OF ONE OF OUR MODEL HOMES, OF A FLOOR PLAN THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO BUILD IN THIS COMMUNITY. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MEASUREMENTS ON THE SCREEN, THE BOTTOM OF THOSE WINDOWS ARE AT JUST OVER 14.5FT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO WAY TO LOOK OUT THOSE WINDOWS UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING AT A LADDER. WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE IN THIS PHOTO IS THERE IS A COVERED EXTENSION OF ROOF LINE ABOVE THAT AS WELL. I'LL SHOW ANOTHER PHOTO OF THAT ONE THAT'S THERE, BUT IT DOES IN GENERAL. THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROOF LINE OVER THESE, AND THEY'RE NOT MEANT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO BE A VISUAL WINDOW FROM STANDING ON THE INSIDE LOOKING OUT. THEY'RE THERE TO LET LIGHT INTO A VAULTED TWO STORY GREAT ROOM. ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR MODEL HOME AT OUR PROJECT IN MURPHY AT CRESCENT HILL, AND I'LL SHOW THIS ONE FROM THE REAR AS WELL AS YOU CAN SEE. SO THERE'S THAT ROOF LINE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENTION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, OBVIOUSLY VERY MINDFUL OF THE PRIVACY CONCERN, RESIDENTIAL ESTATES. WE'RE NOT LOOKING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO TO CHANGE THAT OR TO MAKE THAT ANY LESS THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED UNDER THE PD. WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT NATURAL LIGHT FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, INTO THE GREAT ROOM OF OUR HOMES. MOVING ON, THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH WITH STAFF ON TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH OUR PROCESS OF THE TWO WORKSHOPS THAT WE DID, ONE WITH YOU GUYS AND THEN ONE WITH CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE DID AMENITIZED THE HOA LOT. IN THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THERE. REALLY JUST A SMALL PLAY AREA FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. AS I SAID LAST TIME, THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY FOR US GENERALLY REPRESENTS AN [00:10:02] OWNER THAT'S GOING TO AMENITIZED ON THEIR LOT. SO IT'S GOING TO PUT A POOL IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND AS THE FAMILY AGES IN THE HOME, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THAT AMENITY OF THE OWN LOT MIGHT INCREASE A LITTLE BIT. KIDS GET OLDER, THEY TEND TO WANT TO HANG OUT MORE KIND OF IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD VERSUS IN A COMMUNITY AMENITY CENTER. BUT WE DID AMENITIZED THAT LOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE YOUNGER FAMILIES TO HAVE A PLACE TO TAKE THEIR YOUNGER CHILDREN, TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND PLAY. AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE HERE IN JUST A SECOND. STAFF ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT. 68 LOTS WAS REDUCED DOWN. ADDITIONALLY, THAT WAS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. SO WE DID LOWER LOT COUNT AS THERE AS WELL. ANOTHER BIG ITEM FOR US THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE REPETITION STANDARDS. I'M GOING TO REFERENCE OUR COMMUNITY IN MURPHY CRESCENT HILL A LITTLE BIT AS WE KIND OF TALK THROUGH THIS CHOICES OF FANTASTIC THING. IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPECCABLE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AS I SAID EARLIER, ABOUT WHAT STANDS OUT ABOUT TOLL BROTHERS IS THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE. AT THE SAME TIME, IT CAN CREATE A BUYER'S DILEMMA, IF YOU WILL, IF CHOICE IS TO SUBSTANTIAL OR TO SIGNIFICANT. ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF WHAT MAKES TOLL A FANTASTIC BUILDER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS KEY TO OUR SUCCESS IN OUR PROJECT IN MURPHY, A PROJECT WITHIN WHICH WE OPENED THE COMMUNITY IN JANUARY, SOLD OUR LAST HOUSE OUTSIDE OF OUR MODEL IN OUR ONE CONSTRUCTION TRAILER LOT IN OCTOBER. SO 35 HOUSES IN JUST OVER JUST UNDER TEN MONTHS WAS THE FACT THAT WE WENT IN WITH A LITTLE BIT LIMITED OFFERING THAT WAS A SMALLER LOT COUNT COMMUNITY. SO THE OFFERING THERE WAS LESS THAN WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE OFFERING HERE. BUT WITH THAT, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO OFFER 24 DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF PLANS AND ELEVATIONS. AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT SOMETHING THAT WHERE WE COULD BUILD OUT THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR, AGAIN, A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT TO WHAT THE REPETITION STANDARD WOULD NORMALLY BE HERE. IN JUST A MINUTE, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE SLIDES. IN OUR WORLD WE TALK ABOUT ELEVATIONS AS ELEVATION STYLES. EACH OF THE SLIDES IS GOING TO SHOW YOU ONE OF THOSE UNIQUE STYLES. AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE VERY QUICKLY IS EVEN WITHIN THE SAME STYLE, OUR HOUSES DON'T LOOK VERY SIMILAR. THAT'S PART OF THE DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURE THAT MAKES TOLL BROTHERS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE THAN MOST OF THE MAJOR PRODUCTION HOME BUILDERS, AND WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT, AS YOU KNOW, IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT'S PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY AT BUILD OUT THAT LOOKS ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC AND MONOTONY WILL NOT BE A CONCERN. EVEN WITH THIS SLIGHTLY REDUCED REDUCTION IN STANDARD. AGAIN, I WILL ALSO REFERENCE CRESCENT HILL. IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, GO BY AND DRIVE THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY. IT'S 35 LOTS, EITHER FULLY COMPLETED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION, FIVE PLANS, THREE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. SO 15 ELEVATION COMBINATIONS. AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE VERY QUICKLY. MONOTONY IS NOT AN ISSUE IN THAT PRODUCT. PART OF THAT WE DID ALSO ADD ELEVATION DIFFERENTIATION CRITERIA JUST TO AVOID ANY AMBIGUITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO FOLLOWING THAT ARCHITECTURAL VARIETY. BIG OTHER ONE. WE DID INCREASE THE MINIMUM COVERED PORCH REQUIREMENT FROM 140 TO 150FT■!. A PART OF THAT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MEET THE TOTAL MINIMUMS. SO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO THOSE ARCHITECTURAL FRONT FACING FACADE ELEVATIONS IS THE DIFFERENCES IN PORCHES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S WITHIN THE ORDINANCE FOR WILEY IS A MINIMUM FRONT AND MINIMUM REAR. OUR PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THE TOTAL REQUIRED PORCH SPACE, BUT TO ADJUST WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN THE FRONT AND THE BACK FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE OF ELEVATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, WE WENT BACK THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL USES. I'VE SAID EARLIER THAT OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT THIS AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND THAT WILL DRIVE A HIGHER VALUE OR HIGHER END COMMERCIAL USE. SO WE DID GO BACK THROUGH AND JUST KIND OF PLAY SOME ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS WITHIN THAT TO HELP BENEFIT THAT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS LANGUAGE IN THE ACTUAL PD ORDINANCE RELATIVE TO SOME EARLIER RELEASE OF MODEL HOME TWO MODEL HOME PERMITS, THAT GOES BACK TO, AGAIN, THE SAME IDEA OF WHAT WE SAW AS SUCCESS IN OUR MURPHY PROJECT. BEING ABLE TO GET OUT THERE IN FRONT OF OUR PRODUCTION LOTS, GET THE MODEL DONE SO THAT AS THE COMMUNITY IS COMPLETING ITS SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, WE CAN TURN IT AROUND, HAVE A MODEL COMPLETED, DECORATE IT OPEN FOR SALE AND KICK THE PROJECT OFF AND GET IT UP AND ROLLING TO GET THESE HOMES BUILT AND DELIVERED FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS. SLIDE. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN. HERE'S JUST A ZOOMED IN VIEW OF THAT SITE PLAN. AGAIN, IT WAS ALREADY UP, BUT IF YOU LOOK BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL SIDE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THE LOT 68 USED TO BE AND HAS NOW GONE AWAY TO CREATE ACCESS FOR THE SOUTH. THIS IS WHAT OUR KIND OF CONCEPT VISION LOOKS LIKE FOR BEING ABLE TO AMENITIZED THAT HOA LOT. AGAIN, JUST A SMALL PART FEATURE, BUT SOMETHING WORTHWHILE FOR A FAMILY WITH YOUNG CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO COME AND MEET AND CONGREGATE. ALSO AN AREA THAT WOULD FUNCTION AS A DE FACTO ABILITY FOR A BUS STOP OR A PLACE FOR STUDENTS TO HANG OUT AHEAD OF A BUS PICKUP IN THE MORNING. YOU CAN SEE ITEM SIX IS A COVERED AREA. I COULD SEE THAT EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A PLACE FOR SAID STUDENTS, BUT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT. BUT IN TOTAL, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LOOK TO, TO KIND [00:15:05] OF DELIVER. AND THAT WAS A DIRECT REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP WAS TO TO ADD SOMETHING IN THAT AREA. TO REPETITION. THIS IS WHAT I WAS REFERENCING EARLIER. AS I SAID BEFORE, WE TEND TO DEFINE ELEVATIONS AS STYLES. SO ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES IN OUR WORLD WOULD BE THE SAME ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. AS YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE, I HOPE YOU CAN NOTICE QUICKLY THAT NONE OF THOSE HOUSES REALLY LOOK ALL THAT SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER, WHETHER THAT'S DIFFERENT ROOF FORMS WITH A SIDE GABLE THERE AS THE FAR PICTURE ON THE LEFT TO A MORE OF A HIP ROOF ON THE THREE ON THE RIGHT. YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY SINGLE STORY VERSUS TWO STORY PLAIN STONE LOCATIONS ON THE FRONT FACADE VERSUS PORCHES WITH COVERED METAL ROOF. THERE'S A TON OF VARIETY IN EACH OF THESE, BUT IN MY WORLD THAT IS A SINGLE TYPE OF ELEVATION. HENCE THE REQUEST FOR THE REDUCTION. BECAUSE OF THAT 24 PLAN AND ELEVATION COMBINATIONS. AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. ALL THREE, ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES IN OUR WORLD WOULD BE IDENTIFIED UNDER THE SAME STYLE, BUT ARE VERY UNIQUE IN EACH OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL ASPECTS. THIS IS ALSO A GOOD EXAMPLE OF KIND OF THE PORCH REQUIREMENTS. ALL FOUR OF THOSE HOUSES ARE SLIGHTLY UNDER WHAT WOULD BE THAT 40 FOOT MINIMUM FRONT PORCH, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ALL DO HAVE A COVERED ENTRY PORCH, PORTICO, OR STOOP OF SOME KIND. AND EACH OF THOSE DOES FEATURE A REAR COVERED PORCH THAT WOULD, IN TOTAL, MAKE AT LEAST 150FT■!S. GENERAL, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER. MOST OF OUR HOMES WERE AVERAGING SUBSTANTIALLY BEYOND THAT. THE 150 WAS WHERE WE WERE ABSOLUTELY COMFORTABLE IN OUR SMALLEST PLAN, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT ACROSS THE BOARD. LASTLY, ANOTHER AGAIN FOR FOUR DIFFERENT HOMES, ALL FOR THE SAME ELEVATION STYLE, EACH WITH INDIVIDUAL UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WOULD NOT BE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER. AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD BUILD THESE FOUR HOUSES ON LOTS NEXT TO EACH OTHER. IN FACT, THE VERBIAGE OF THE PD WOULD ACTUALLY PREVENT THAT DIRECTLY TO LOTS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET FOR THE SAME PLAN AND ELEVATION, AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME PLAN IN ELEVATION. SO WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF THE CHARACTERISTICS. ONE OF THE THINGS OUR CEO LOVES TO TALK ABOUT IS WE BUILD COMMUNITIES. WE DON'T BUILD IN PROJECTS, WE DON'T BUILD ON LOTS, WE BUILD HOMES AND COMMUNITIES. PART OF THAT IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT ARCHITECTURAL VARIETY ACROSS THE BOARD, AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. ONE OF THE ITEMS FROM COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OF CONCERN AS MUCH FOR YOU GUYS, BUT WE WERE ASKED TO KIND OF JUST OVERLAY AGAIN, THE SUCCESS IN THE CRESCENT HILL PROJECT. I'VE ALREADY KIND OF COVERED MOST OF THAT. SO AGAIN, 37 TOTAL LOTS, 35 THAT HAVE BEEN SOLD TO DATE, OPEN FOR SALES. IN JANUARY OF 25, WE SOLD OUR LAST HOME IN EXCUSE ME, OCTOBER 8TH OF 2025. AVERAGE SALE PRICE IN THAT COMMUNITY WAS RIGHT AROUND 945,000, WITH A CAP OF JUST UNDER 1.55 MILLION. PLAN LINEUP IN THAT COMMUNITY WAS 26 50FT■!S TO ABOUT 3750 FOR COLLEE PARK. WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD ON THE LARGER END. SO WE'D BE KIND OF MATCHING THAT 2650 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM, UP TO ABOUT 4500 SQUARE FOOT AS FAR AS THE MINIMUM GOES. THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK. WE'VE GOT MOHAMMED HERE, WHO IS REPRESENTING THE OWNERSHIP GROUP, AND HE CAN GIVE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, AS WELL AS ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE OWNERSHIP SIDE. RESPECTED COMMISSION. MY NAME IS MOHAMMED QASIM AT 4532 WHITE ROCK LANE, PLANO, TEXAS. SO I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS MEADVILLE COMPANIES. WE ARE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER. WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE WORKING CLOSELY HERE IN MURPHY AS WELL. JUST COMPLETED A DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE, WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH D.R. HORTON AND RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROJECT THAT TOLL BROTHERS IS COMPLETED IN MURPHY AS WELL. AND WE'RE EXCITED ON KIND OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THIS NEW DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TAKING WITH TOLL ON THIS PROJECT, HENCE THE SORT OF REQUEST TO BRING THE DENSITY DOWN, AS WELL AS KEEPING THE COMMERCIAL IN LINE WITH BOTH. WHAT HOW THE CITY HAS REALLY WANTED THE FRONTAGE OF THAT PROPERTY TO HAVE THE COMMERCIAL IN PLACE, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH TOLL ON WHAT THE SPECIFIC USE OF THE RESIDENTS AND WHAT KIND OF AMENITIES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA. SO WE'RE PLANNING IT TO BE A VERY FAMILY RETAIL ORIENTED STRIP DESIGNED TO BE THERE WITH AN END CAP. SO A USE LIKE A PHARMACY, A DRY CLEANING STORE, A SMALL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION IF THEY WANT TO PUT A BRANCH IN THERE. SO SMALLER ACTIVITY WHICH ARE PREDOMINANTLY USED FOR EVERYDAY USE, PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDING IN THE COMMUNITIES BOTH IN TOLL AND IN THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES, AND ALSO COMPLIMENTARY USE FOR THE RETAIL MIX THAT'S ALONG THE CORRIDOR AREA. SO WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT KIND OF JUST KEEPING IT MINIMAL AND WITHIN THE STANDARD PARAMETERS OF DESIGN THAT IS ALREADY IN WYLIE CODES. AND AS MENTIONED IN THE [00:20:06] PRESENTATION, MORE RESTRICTIONS ADDED TO THE USE. SO KEEPING IT VERY, VERY SOLIDIFIED TO WHAT IS BENEFICIAL BOTH FOR THE COMMUNITY IN USE OVER THERE AS WELL AS THE PRODUCT THAT'S BEING BUILT BY TOLL AS WELL. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF ANY SPECIFIC COME UP FROM THAT REGARD, BUT APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE NEW DESIGN THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO ON THE FENCES THAT'S GOING TO DIVIDE THE TWO. THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH. IS THAT GOING TO BE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE SIX OKAY. AND WE HAD TALKED THE LAST TIME THAT ENTRANCE TO THE PRESIDENT WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT EMERGENCY ENTRANCE ONLY. ARE WE OKAY. I KNOW WE HAD THAT WORK SESSION. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. DO WE WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR REDUCING THE FENCE? JUST JUST BECAUSE THE AMENITY CENTER IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE WAS TO SEPARATE THE HOMES FROM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT AND A PICKLEBALL COURT AND SOME STUFF AND JUST NOISE AND VISUALIZATION AND EVERYTHING. SO NOW IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HOMES. IT ONLY NEEDS TO BE SIX. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP. OKAY I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND FROM THE AUDIENCE AND SPEAK ON ITEM, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO JUST COME UP TO THE. MICROPHONE UP THERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. SINCE NO ONE IS GETTING UP, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. OKAY. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ALL THE ABOVE. I KNOW IT'S NOT MUCH OF A CHANGE, AT LEAST ON MY END. THE REDUCING APPEARS THERE, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND GETTING RID OF THE TOWNHOMES. AND SO AND WE KEEP THE COMMERCIAL WITH IT. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG DEAL. NOT JUST US, BUT THE COUNCIL WANTED. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND WE'RE ALSO MAINTAINING THE TEN ZERO ZERO ZERO FOOT REQUIREMENT. CORRECT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL. RECOMMEND WHAT? APPROVAL OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE FOR THE ORDINANCE CHANGE. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND PLEASE VOTE. AND THAT PASSES SIX ZERO OKAY. [2. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light Industrial (LI) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LI SUP) on 0.88 acres to allow for Vehicle Display, Sales or Service. Property located at 114 Regency Drive (ZC 2025-17). ] MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON 0.88 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES OR SERVICE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 114 REGENCY DRIVE, ZC 20 2517. MR. MOLINA YES, OUR SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 114 REGENCY DRIVE. THEY'RE ASKING TO USE A PORTION OF THE BUILDING FOR VEHICLE SALES. IT'S 5400FT■!S. THEY'RE WANTING FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF VEHICLE SALES ONLY INSIDE, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH GOING TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 20 VEHICLES JUST BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF SPACE. THERE ARE ALSO ASKING FOR IT TO BE PARKED AT A RATIO OF ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 750FT, SO THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF EIGHT PARKING SPACES. AND ESSENTIALLY THE REQUEST TODAY IS FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF VEHICLE SALES. SO IT IS IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND THERE ARE SOME VEHICLE SALES NEAR THE AREA. BUT THEY'RE THOSE ARE [00:25:02] USES THAT HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. WE DID MAIL 20 NOTICES AND RECEIVED TWO IN OPPOSITION. AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE THAT'S AT. ONE OF THEM WAS INSIDE THE NOTIFICATION MAP AREA. THE OTHER ONE IS FURTHER OUTSIDE OF IT, AND THERE IS A COMMENT ON THERE AS WELL. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF SITE CHANGES. THEY'RE NOT MAKING ANY EXTERIOR SITE CHANGES. IT'S ALL INTERIOR. SO THE PLANS THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED ARE ARE THE FLOOR PLANS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH VEHICLE SALES THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A STATE LICENSE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE TO BE LICENSED BY THE STATE TO, TO OPERATE THEIR VEHICLE SALES. SO. KEVIN, THESE ARE THE PART OF THE BUILDING IS THE PARK TO THE EAST END. SO LIKE AT THE BUILDINGS FACING NORTH, THE EAST END. YES. THE RIGHT. SO THE HOUSES ARE OVER HERE TO THE CORRECT. SO RIGHT HERE THIS IS REGENCY DRIVE. SO OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. THE PINK AREA THAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE WANTING THE SALES. AND SO YOU STILL HAVE SPRINGWELL PARKWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE. RIGHT. SO. YEAH. YOU SAID THE APPLICANT WAS HERE. YEAH. YES. Y'ALL ARE HERE. DO YOU MIND COMING UP? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. OH, OKAY. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MIND STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST. ZUHAIR KETO ADDRESS IS 6808 EASTVIEW DRIVE, SAXY, OKAY. AND SO. I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION PREPARED BY STAFF, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO ALL THE. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY VEHICLES OUTSIDE? I KNOW IT SAYS ONLY ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF VEHICLES INSIDE. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO ALL THE VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE STORED INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE OKAY. AND SO PEOPLE JUST COME THERE, CHECK OUT THE VEHICLE AND YEAH, MOST OF OUR SALES ARE ALL ONLINE. WE SPECIALIZE IN LUXURY VEHICLES, 20 TO $25,000 CARS. AND WE WANT, YOU KNOW, SAFE AREA. WE KEEP THEM INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, NICE AND CLEAN. THEY'RE REALLY WELL TAKEN CARE OF VEHICLES. SO WE KEEP THEM STORED IN AND CUSTOMERS, MOST OF OUR SALES ARE GOING TO BE ONLINE, SO THEY'RE OUT OF STATE CUSTOMERS. SOMETIMES THEY DO COME IN. BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED A WAREHOUSE. WE SPECIALIZE IN VERY SELECTIVE VEHICLES. SO. GOTCHA. YEAH. SO WHAT? AND JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE COMMENTS. WHAT IS Y'ALL'S NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION 9 TO 6 OKAY. HOW MANY OF THESE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS ACTUALLY WENT OUT. SORRY. 20 OKAY. WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION? I'M SORRY. HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS DID WE MAIL? OKAY. THE COMMENT THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING RIGHT ABOUT THE NOISE. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT BASICALLY RESPONDED. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE WENT OUT, GAVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. AND WE ONLY GOT ONE. SO. HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9 TO 6. I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT TOO BIG OF A DEAL. I DOUBT IT. YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE CP. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, WE COULD DEFINITELY MAKE A SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION LIKE THAT. I MEAN, IS THAT Y'ALL SAID 9 TO 6 AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT NIGHTTIME. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR Y'ALL. BECAUSE IF IT GOES INTO THE THE. SPECIAL USE PERMIT, THEN IT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOCKED IN AT. SO YEAH, THAT'S [00:30:03] FOR SURE. OKAY. YEAH. WILL THERE BE ANY REPAIR. NO. NO REPAIRS ON VEHICLES. SALES ONLY. YES. SO JASON ON THE SGP CONDITIONS WHERE IT SAYS ALLOW FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES OR SERVICE, IF THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO REPAIR. BUT WOULD AUTHORIZING THIS ALLOW THEM TO DO REPAIR. NO. THAT THAT'S THE USE THAT CATEGORY THAT WE HAVE. WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS FOR A SERVICE CAN BE JUST CLEANING THE VEHICLE UP OR CHANGING THE TIRES. YOU KNOW, THEY THEY BUY A VEHICLE AT AUCTION. I'M ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, THE TIRES ARE IFFY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT NEW TIRES ON IT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF THEY DO THAT THEY'RE THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN DO IT AT THAT FACILITY. BUT IT ALLOWS FOR THAT SORT OF THING. ANYTHING WHICH YOU WOULD CONSIDER DEALER PREP, I GUESS, IS PROBABLY BE A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO SAY THAT I MAY. MY NAME IS LOVEPREET SINGH, 6604 JUPITER ROAD. I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. JUST WANT TO BRING UP THE THE FACT THAT IN THE SAME STREET WE HAVE MULTIPLE CAR DEALERS. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE DETAILING VEHICLES FROM EARLIER THAN 9 A.M. TO LATER THAN 8 P.M. ALREADY THAT ARE NOT IN THE BUILDING, AND IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE ZUHAIR THERE. YEAH OF COURSE, MAN, HE'S NOT A NOISY TENANT. HE'S NOT BEEN A MESSY TENANT. HE'S BEEN VERY CLEAN, VISITED HIS OTHER BUSINESSES AND THEY'RE ALL IN PROPER SHAPE. I DON'T THINK NOISE COMPLAINTS OR TIMES ARE GOING TO BE OF ANY RELEVANCE OR ANY NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM AGAIN, JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE A COMMENT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HELLO. I'M I'M THE RESIDENT OF 201 STERLING HEIGHTS. I'M THE ONE WHO VOTED AGAINST IT. MY CONCERN MAINLY WAS THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL EXPECT ON ON THE SPRINGVALE ROAD BECAUSE IT IS UNLIT AND IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, ROAD LINES LIKE THE YELLOW AND THE WHITE LINES. IT'S ALREADY VERY DIFFICULT TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD. AND ALSO LIKE, YES, AS THE APPLICANTS WERE SAYING, THE OTHER TENANTS THERE, THEY MAKE A LOT OF NOISE. AND MY CONCERN WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT INCREASES FURTHER, THEN IT WILL BE A BIG PROBLEM FOR US LOOKING AT THE PLAN. AND IF THEY ARE RESTRICTING IT TO 20 VEHICLES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER MY CONCERN REMAINS VALID. I ONLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE MAINLY AWAY FROM SPRINGVALE AND ONTO THE REGENCY ROAD, I HOPE, AND I THINK IF THAT IS THE CASE, PROBABLY IT SHOULD BE OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU SIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT GARY. I SHOULD HAVE REMINDED HIM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MY NAME IS KHALID JALIL AND I LIVE ON 205 SPRINGVILLE, STERLING HEIGHTS, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SPRINGVILLE PARKWAY. SAME CONCERNS. THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER HAD. MORE SO FROM THE NOISE POINT OF VIEW. BUSINESSES THERE, THEY START OPERATING VERY, VERY EARLY, SOMETIMES EVEN THREE, 4:00 IN THE MORNING. SO FROM A NOISE POINT OF VIEW, THE LOADING AND UNLOADING OF VEHICLES, WILL THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9 TO 6 OR EARLIER OR LATER? SO DEFINITELY THAT'S A CONCERN I SHARE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. AND ALSO FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AWESOME. THANK [00:35:01] YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES WE CAN. YEAH. I MEAN WELL YEAH I'LL TRY THIS. SO ONE. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN. IT MAY CLOSE IF NOBODY ELSE GETS UP AND YOU'LL STILL GET A CHANCE. THANK YOU. SO OKAY ANY MORE COMMENTS. BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION THEN. OKAY. Y'ALL WANT TO COME BACK UP. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC CAUSED FROM OUR BUSINESS, WE'RE VERY MINIMAL ON TRAFFIC. LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALL APPOINTMENT ONLY BASED. WE'RE VERY YOU KNOW, OUR CARS KIND OF BRING IN QUALITY CLIENTS WHEN IT COMES TO UNLOADING VEHICLES EITHER IF THEY COME FROM AUCTIONS, WE DO PURCHASE CARS FROM OWNERS. ALSO, IT'S 99% OF THE TIME IT'S DURING BUSINESS HOURS. THAT'S WHEN WE'RE THERE. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LATE DROP OFFS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO. AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT SPRINGVILLE WILL NOT BE UTILIZED AS A LOADING OR UNLOADING AREA, EITHER. IT WOULD REMAIN DIRECTLY ONTO REGENCY. SO. WHEN Y'ALL BRING THEM IN, IT'S LIKE ONE CAR. OR IS IT LIKE A LOAD OF CARS OR HOW IS THAT. NO, NO, THEY THEY COME IN ONCE EVERY PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TRUCK THAT COMES IN ON REGENCY EITHER DROPS IT OFF OR WE HAVE ACTUAL LIKE DRIVERS JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY DRIVE IN THE CAR AND THEY PARK IT INSIDE THE WAREHOUSE. GOT IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE THEY GO SIT BACK DOWN AND HAVE TO GET BACK UP? OKAY. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. COMMENTS. QUESTIONS. ANYTHING? MY THOUGHT IS IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND IT'S ALL GOING TO BE INSIDE. SEEMS PRETTY SMALL. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE HOURS I. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A NEED IN IT. I MEAN, I'M ONLY ONE OF THE MEMBERS HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF NO ONE ELSE IN THAT AREA HAS THAT. I KNOW OF RESTRICTED HOURS. YEAH, THAT THAT WAS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFUL OF THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE THERE AND UNDERSTAND IF THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES. I CAN TALK TO THEM AND WE CAN ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS HOW THEY CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY AND WE CAN RECTIFY THE OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE MAYBE RUNNING BUSINESSES A LITTLE EARLY BECAUSE THE CITY DOES HAVE CERTAIN RULES ON NOISE REQUIREMENTS, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHILE WE WERE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THIS IN, YOU KNOW, HOURS OF OPERATION, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN, IT'LL BE DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE ON A, ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS ON JUST ONE BUSINESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, WE'LL DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN THE CIP AND TAKE IT TO COUNCIL THAT WAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION I MOVE. WE ACCEPT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO AS PRESENTED. EXCUSE ME, I RECOMMEND MOVE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO AS PRESENTED TONIGHT. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. AND THAT PASSES SIX ZERO. GOOD LUCK. [3. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural (AG) to Community Retail - Special Use Permit (CR SUP) on 1.85 acre to allow for Office Showroom /Warehouse. Property located at 308 W Alanis Drive. (ZC 2025-09). ] OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER THREE. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR [00:40:03] CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL AG TO COMMUNITY RETAIL, COMMUNITY RETAIL SPECIAL USE PERMIT, CRSP ON 1.85 ACRE TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 308 WEST ALANIS DRIVE, ZC. 20 5-09 MR. MOLINA. YES, OUR LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 308 WEST ALANIS. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL. THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME HISTORY OF THE SITE. IT CURRENTLY HAS TWO HOMES ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND A STABLE IN THE BACK. BASED ON AERIAL IMAGES, YOU CAN TELL THAT A BUSINESS WAS RUN BACK THERE, BUT NO OFFICIAL BUSINESS WAS RUN WITH A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, SO ANY NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE TO GET A CO AND THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER CAN'T. HE CAN'T USE THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE IN THE BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT BUILT UP TO CITY CODE. SO THE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO REDEVELOP THE SITE. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSE. NOW HE'S ASKING FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT WITH FIVE BUILDINGS, AND THEY'RE ALL UNDER 6000FT■!S. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE SPRINKLED. KEEP IN MIND THIS DESIGN, IT'S IT'S CONCEPTUAL. WE'RE STILL GOING TO SEE A SITE PLAN COME IN LATER ON. THE DEVELOPER MOSTLY WANTED TO KNOW IF THE CONCEPT OF IT IS SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD APPROVE WITH THE SUP. IN TERMS OF ACCESS, THOUGH IT DOES MEET FIRE CODE. IT HAS ONE LANE RUNNING THROUGH THE SITE WITH A HAMMERHEAD TURNAROUND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION AS WELL TO DESCRIBE THE TYPE OF USERS HE'S HOPING TO HAVE. AS THIS IS SHELL SPACE, WE DID MAIL NOTICES TO 13 PROPERTY OWNERS. KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT NOTIFICATION AREA, THAT'S THE AREA THAT'S SHADED WITHIN THE THIS CIRCLE, THE BUFFER. WITHIN THAT BUFFER, THERE WAS THREE THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION. BUT OVERALL WE RECEIVED 41 FORMS THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION AND THREE THAT WERE OR TWO THAT WERE IN FAVOR. AND THAT MOSTLY CAME FROM THE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH. AND THEN Y'ALL RECEIVED SOME OF THE NOTICES IN THE PACKET. BUT SINCE THEN WE RECEIVED A LOT MORE SO. BUT AFTER FOR NOW, I'LL LET Y'ALL HEAR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU, MR. MOLINA. SURE, Y'ALL MAY HAVE HEARD ME SAY IT, BUT JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, OKAY? GREETINGS, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROY KINDRED. I'M AN ARCHITECT WORKING ON THE PROJECT. MY ADDRESS IS 7500 BISHOP ROAD IN PLANO, TEXAS. AND I'D LIKE TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY BE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT. HOW DO WE. OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, COMMUNITY RETAIL AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS NEARBY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL SPACES AS WELL. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE SOME COMMUNITY RETAIL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO OUR PROPERTY. THERE'S ALSO A GREAT DEAL OF COMMERCIAL THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT IT'S STILL FLANKS OUR PROPERTY. YOU CAN ONLY ACCESS OUR PROPERTY THROUGH ATLANTIS DRIVE, SO PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DRIVING THROUGH OR CUTTING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL STREETS TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY. AND HERE'S SOME MORE. BUSINESSES ON ATLANTIS DRIVE LANDSCAPE SUPPLY, FLOORING, TRANSFORMER SERVICE. I THINK ALL OF THESE BUSINESSES HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS OF OPERATION. SOME COMPANIES START AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING AND GO [00:45:04] TO THREE IN THE AFTERNOON. SOME START AT 8 OR 10 AND GO MUCH LATER. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR HOURS OF OPERATION MIGHT BE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT TENANTS MAY COME IN THERE. BUT. HERE'S ANOTHER SIMILAR MAP. THE ON THE BOTTOM ROW, WE'RE SHOWING TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY DOCHI STORAGE. THESE ARE GRADE LEVEL UNITS. YOU CAN'T GET AN 18 WHEELER INTO THE PROPERTY. WE'RE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY LOADING AND UNLOADING OF PRODUCT BECAUSE NONE OF THESE UNITS ARE SET UP FOR MANUFACTURING. NOBODY'S GOING TO BE BUILDING THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOAD UP ON A TRUCK AND MOVE OUT. THESE ARE JUST. LET ME GO TO THAT PART. GIVE ME A SECOND HERE. SO THIS IS A FLEX SPACE. IT'S TYPICALLY USED FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, SERVICE PROVIDERS, OFFICES AND LIGHT STORAGE CLINICS, BARBERS TUTOR CENTERS. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BIG TRUCKS OR 18 WHEELERS COMING IN AND DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO YEAH, MY NAME IS JASON AWADALLAH. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN 308 ALLENS DRIVE. I'M ALSO RESIDENT IN 1310 GREENSBORO DRIVE IN WILEY AS WELL. SO AS THE ARCHITECT MENTIONED, I MEAN, THE ALLEN STREET HAS MULTIPLE BUSINESS, IT HAS INDUSTRIAL, IT HAS COMMERCIAL, AND IT HAS ALSO A COMMUNITY RETAIL IN THE SAME STREET. SO WE ARE NOT MAKING NEW BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL AREA. I MEAN THIS IF YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER FOUR, FIVE, SIX, THOSE ARE COMMUNITY. I MEAN THEY ARE ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY AND THE ONE BEHIND THEM. NUMBER SEVEN, IT'S OUT OF THE CITY LIMITS. ITS COMMERCIAL, THEY ARE RUNNING COMMERCIAL AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMIT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER EIGHT AND MY PROPERTY, BOTH, THEY MOVED FROM OUT TO THE CITY TO THE CITY. AND THE DEFAULT ZONE FOR THAT IS AGRICULTURE. SO HAVEN'T BEEN ZONED BEFORE. AND THIS IS BIG LOTS. I MEAN, 1.85 ACRE. SO YOU SEE IN THESE PHOTOS I MEAN THESE FOR EXAMPLE, THE BUSINESS ON THE NEIGHBOR BUSINESS AROUND THE LOTS. RIGHT. AND HERE. YEAH, HERE. YOU SEE I MEAN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE IN THE LOT. SO THOSE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN 1982, VERY OLD. THERE'S THERE'S WORKSHOP AS YOU CAN SEE IS VERY I MEAN BIG LOT WITH I MEAN BUSINESS WAS RUNNING IN THE PAST SINCE I THINK 1982 AND SOMETHING 1990 AND THE BUILDING IN VERY BAD SHAPE. THEY'LL NEED A LOT OF WORK. SO WHEN I TRY TO OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO KEEP THE BUSINESS RUNNING, I MEAN, I WAS ASKED TO MEET THE FIRE CODE, RIGHT? SO TO TO MEET THE FIRE CODE IS BETTER TO JUST DEMOLISH THESE TWO BUILDINGS AND THE, THE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK AND MAKE IT IN THE THE WAY THAT CITY WANTS IT TO BE. SO THIS IS HOW I MEAN THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE. SO ONCE WE DEMOLISH THESE BUILDINGS, THE FINAL PRODUCT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS. AND WE WILL HAVE FIVE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE TWO AXIS, THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE THAT WE HAVE IN THE DESIGN. THIS IS A FIRE LANE WITH I MEAN HAMMERHEAD. AND WE ALSO THE ISMET GOLD ROAD. THIS IS ISMET FROM MY LAND AND FROM MY NEIGHBOR LAND. AND THIS IS ANOTHER ALSO AXIS TO THE PROPERTY. SO WE ACTUALLY TRANSFORMING THE STRUCTURE FROM THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE WILL LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THE ONE ON THE RIGHT SIDE. SO JUST, I MEAN, TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR FLEX [00:50:01] SPACE, WE ARE NOT DOING SOMETHING INDUSTRIAL. I MEAN WE ARE NOT HAVING FOR EXAMPLE, VEHICLE WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING IN THIS. IT'S JUST OFFICES, SMALL BUSINESS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUSINESS LIVING. WHILE THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIR BUSINESS CLOSED, THEY CAN'T HAVE OFFICE AND SMALL STORAGE WITHIN THE AREA. AND WE ALSO WOULD BE I MEAN, HAVING THE COMMUNITY RETAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME PEOPLE MAYBE HAVE CLINIC OR BARBER SHOP OR JUST SMALL OFFICES. IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL. SO TYPE OF THIS BUSINESS DOESN'T ATTRACT HEAVY DUTY VEHICLE, JUST MEDIUM OR SMALL VEHICLE TRUCKS OR MAYBE JUST PASSENGER CARS, WHICH IS, I MEAN, EVEN BETTER THAN THE OTHER BUSINESS ON THE SAME STREET. RIGHT? SAME INDUSTRIAL. THIS IS NOT INDUSTRIAL. SO BENEFITS THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THE COMMUNITY OF THIS FLEX SPACE DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS WILL KEEP THE I MEAN THE BUSINESS IN WILEY, PEOPLE WILL NOT THEY DON'T NEED TO TRAVEL TO SAXY OR GARLAND TO HAVE THEIR BUSINESS THERE. WHILE SMILING. THEY WILL BE TAXED. WILEY WITH LOW INFRASTRUCTURE. I MEAN THESE PEOPLE, THIS BUSINESS PEOPLE DON'T GO TO SCHOOL, THEY DON'T NEED SERVICE, RIGHT? AND THIS IS WHAT REDUCED I MEAN, TRAVEL TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO GO TO I MEAN ADJACENT CITIES AND COMPARING WITH ANY OTHER ZONING FOR THIS, I MEAN ALMOST TWO ACRE LOT. I MEAN. I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC WILL NOT BE I MEAN, HIGHER THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE APARTMENTS OR INDUSTRIAL ZONING, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE MORE THAN WHAT WE WILL HAVE IN COMMUNITY RETAIL. AND FINALLY, THE LOCK. RIGHT. THE VIEW WILL BE MUCH BETTER THAN THE EXISTING ONE WITH THESE TWO OLD BUILDINGS ON THE STREET WILL BE, I MEAN, ACCORDING TO THE WILEY STANDARD AND CODE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO ADD ONE THING. YOU KNOW, THE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LEASE THESE SPACES, THEY'RE PROBABLY YOUR NEIGHBORS. THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ACROSS THE STREET, THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, LIVING NEXT DOOR. THEY MAY WANT TO BRANCH OUT. MAYBE A BEAUTICIAN IS WORKING FOR A BEAUTY SHOP AND WANTS TO OPEN UP THEIR OWN PLACE. WELL, THERE'S ONE. THERE WILL BE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THEM. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD Y'ALL STAY UP HERE. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM? YEAH I DO OKAY I THINK MY MAIN QUESTION I GUESS I'LL CALL IT A QUESTION. SO. IN THE SPECIAL CONDITIONS ALL BY RIGHT USE IS ALLOWED IN COMMUNITY RETAIL IS. BUT WHEN Y'ALL DESCRIBE IT, YOU KIND OF SEEM TO NARROW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE, THE USE TABLE AND OUR ZONING CODE FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL, IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF THINGS AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT ME PERSONALLY OR AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION, I WOULDN'T WANT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND SO I OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL ARE EXPLAINING THIS AS I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL OR ARE YOU TRYING TO KEEP OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP THEIR OPTIONS OPEN. AND SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO US TO USE THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, OKAY, ZONING AND THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH GOTCHA. OKAY. WE JUST AVOID THEM IN INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT I MEAN MAYBE OF WORK OVER THERE. SO WE JUST LIMITED TO COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH SUB FOR FLEX SPACE I UNDERSTAND I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I'LL HAVE YOU'RE LAYING OUT A PLAN AND IT SEEMS TO BE ALSO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE THESE BUILDINGS LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AN EYESORE. WE ALSO HAVE A ROW OF TREES UP FRONT THAT SORT OF OBSCURE THE VIEW TO THE PROPERTY. I THINK MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE DRIVEN BY THERE CAN'T EVEN SEE WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A BUNCH OF REALLY DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND KEEP AS MUCH SCREENING UP FRONT AS POSSIBLE, BUT STILL, IT MAKES THEM ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS FOR [00:55:03] PEOPLE TO, TO OCCUPY. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE LIKE FLEX SPACES AND MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A HAIR SALON OR SOMETHING. ARE YOU ARE YOU GOING TO LIKE, REDESIGN THIS LOOK MORE LIKE A STOREFRONT BECAUSE NOW IT LOOK LIKE A WAREHOUSE. YEAH. WITH THE SO ACTUALLY, YEAH, IT HAS HAIR DOORS AND STUFF. I, I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL MAKE IT LOOK MORE LIKE STOREFRONT BECAUSE FRANKLY, THIS TYPE OF BUILDING HERE ESPECIALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK IN FRONT OF IT. IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PLUMBERS OR SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE IN AND OUT WITH UTILITY TRUCKS, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE INTENT. SO IT WILL LOOK NICER. BUT I BELIEVE PEOPLE NEED A DOCTOR. I THINK IT'S JUST NICE TO HAVE ANYBODY BRINGING IN ANY SUPPLIES AT ALL. I THINK WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DOCTOR. THEY MAY WANT TO PULL A CAR IN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO STAY FOR A WHILE OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S HAILING OUTSIDE OR SOMETHING. SO I THINK WE DO WANT TO KEEP THE DOCTOR LOOK. BUT IF THE CITY IS ASKING FOR A, YOU KNOW, A BETTER LOOKING FACADE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL WILL CERTAINLY COMPLY WITH THAT. YEAH. FOR THE DOORS ACTUALLY THIS PHOTO OF SIMILAR BUSINESS IN WILEY AND FOR THE DOORS, AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE THEM IN THE WALK IN DOOR AND WE HAVE THE BIG GATE. SO BIG GATE WILL BE OPTIONAL, CAN BE GLASSED WITH A MINERAL OVER THE DOOR. OR WE CAN LIKE THIS. IT DEPENDS ON THE BUSINESS THAT WILL BE RUN ON THAT STORE. YEAH WE CAN MAKE GARAGE DOORS VERY ATTRACTIVE. THIS JUST LOOKS MORE INDUSTRIAL THAN RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL. THAT BUILDING TYPE DOES LOOK MORE INDUSTRIAL. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT THROW YOU FROM THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED. YEAH, WELL, TO BE HONEST, IT'S KIND OF WHAT IT'S DOING IS THROWING ME OFF. IT'S MAKING ME SAY, LIKE, YOU THINK IT'S A PLUMBER OR ELECTRICIAN STORAGE WAREHOUSE OR. YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE YEAH, THIS IS FOR A SMALL BUSINESS. SO PEOPLE HAVE I MEAN, THEY NEED STORAGE WITH THE BUSINESS WILL BE SMALL STORAGE. I MEAN, THE BIGGEST ONE WITH LESS THAN 1500 SQUARE FOOT. SO THAT'S NOT A BIG WAREHOUSE, MORE STORAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUSINESS. AND THEY NEED TO KEEP STUFF WITH THEM CLOSE BY. TRYING TO FIND A SLIDE THAT MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE MORE LIKE WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. IT'S NOT, WELL, ONE OF THESE WHERE IT SAYS ATLANTIS SEVEN BE. THAT'S GOT A LOT OF WINDOW SPACE THERE, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO THAT. I DON'T THINK A BARBERSHOP OR HAIR SALON OR SMALL BUSINESS WOULD WANT TO BE CLOSED UP WITH NO WINDOWS AT ALL, SO MAYBE THESE ARE NOT BEST EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO PUT THEIR BARBERSHOP OR HAIR SALON WOULD WANT TO MOVE INTO ONE OF THOSE SPACES THAT JUST HAS A GARAGE DOOR AND A MAN DOOR, YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO. SO WE WE'RE GOING TO DO ARCHITECTURALLY WHAT WOULD ATTRACT CLIENTS TO BE THERE. AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY YOU ANYWAY, BY SOMEBODY IN BUILDING OR PLANNING, PROBABLY BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT. SO. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST RUN SOMETHING THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE FOR THE BEST. WE WANT TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A A PROPERTY OWNER WHO LIVES IN WYLIE. YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT COMING HERE FROM WEATHERFORD OR, YOU KNOW. OKLAHOMA CITY. YOU KNOW, HE'S VESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND IN THE CITY AND HAS CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL HERE. SO I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE [01:00:06] PUBLIC HEARING? OH, JASON, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WE'LL STILL HAVE MORE LOOKS AT THIS AS IT COMES DOWN THE ROAD WITH SITE PLANS, RIGHT? YEAH. IF ZONING WERE TO BE APPROVED, WE'D HAVE TO DO SITE PLAN. ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IS JUST SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE HERE AND UNDERSTANDS STATE LAW, SAYS THAT THE CITY IS NO LONGER ALLOWED. I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN FOR SIX YEARS NOW. WE CANNOT DICTATE BUILDING MATERIALS AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE THE BUILDING CODE. WE CAN'T EVEN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE WILL OF THE APPLICANT TO ASSURE THE CITY THAT IT WILL BE JUST A METAL BUILDING, THEN WE THERE IS A THING WHERE WE CAN ENTER INTO WHAT'S CALLED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT HAS TO BE VOLUNTARILY ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT. BUT WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT. THAT'S JUST STATE LAW. SO JUST JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. AS WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. THANK YOU. MAY BE CALLED BACK UP OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE FIRST. YEAH OKAY OKAY I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME COMMENT FORMS. SO WE'LL PROBABLY START WITH THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THOSE. BUT IF YOU WOULD IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT IN A COMMENT FORM YOU WANT TO COME SPEAK. GO TALK TO MISS GABBY DOWN THERE AND SHE CAN GET YOU ON THE LIST. BUT FIRST UP. MR. VU. AND JUST COME UP LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AS YOU START. SO MY NAME IS VAN VU, 813 FAIRFIELD DRIVE, PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY. ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERN I HAVE IS THE TRAFFIC AROUND THE AREA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I KNOW THERE'S TWO MORE BUILDINGS THAT'S ALREADY DONE BY ATLANTIS AND ALSO THE LAND ADJACENT TO IT. IT'S ALSO COMMERCIAL, AND EVEN WITHOUT THAT, TWO BUILDINGS ACCOUNT FOR TRAFFIC. RIGHT NOW IS A LOT DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. SO WITH THE NEW BUSINESS, IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC TO TURN INTO MY HOUSE, WHICH BY FAIRFIELD DRIVE. AND ALSO ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS WOULD THE NEW BUSINESS HAVE LIKE CBD OR LIKE THOSE TYPE OF STORES ALLOWED THERE? BECAUSE IF THE CBD ARE ALLOWED TO BE HERE, THEN, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BRING BAD STUFF TO IT. SO NO. OKAY, SO THE CITY HAS AN ORDINANCE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S SMOKE SHOP CBD RELATED IS A SEPARATE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BY. RIGHT. ANYWHERE IN THE CITY GOING FORWARD. OKAY OKAY. AND YEAH MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST GOING TO BE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. UP NEXT, JUSTIN FLOYD. JUSTIN FLOYD, 703 PROVIDENCE DRIVE, WILEY. PART OF THE STONE RANCH COMMUNITY. LIKE THE REST OF THEM BEHIND US, JASON RECOGNIZES ME. SO I HAD A FEW CONCERNS AND A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD OR COMMISSION, BUT I'LL START WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS. MAIN ONE BEING TRAVIS OR EXCUSE ME, TRAFFIC ON ATLANTIS ROAD. IT'S ALREADY EXTREMELY CONGESTED IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE AFTERNOONS COMING HOME, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE EIGHT BUILDINGS FOR EACH, 32 BUILDINGS, PLUS AMOUNT OF CARS IN AND OUT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC AROUND THE HOUSE. BUT SO IN THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY SHOWED US BUILDINGS THAT LOOK LIKE BARNS AND THEN SAID THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLINICS AND OFFICES AND SALONS. AND KEITH AND FRANKLIN PROMPTLY CALLED IT OUT AND SAID, HEY, THERE'S NO GLASS. WHY WOULD ANYBODY EVER WANT TO DO THIS? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS IN THERE. I SEE THEM DOING THE PLUMBING WAREHOUSE, ELECTRICIANS WAREHOUSE, WHICH I REALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THOSE, EXCEPT FOR THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING. SOME OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS TYPE OF BUILDING ON THE PROPOSAL AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN WHEN THESE TWO GENTLEMEN CALLED THEM OUT, OH, NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO STOREFRONT GLASS. BUT WE JUST TOLD YOU THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I JUST I [01:05:02] MEAN, I KNOW IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF LATER ON, BUT THAT JUST RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY. THEY ALSO SHOWED A SECOND PICTURE THAT WAS NOTHING BUT OVERHEAD DOORS. NOTHING LIKE THE FIRST ONE WITH THE F-250 OUT FRONT. THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY SORT OF BUSINESS. THAT'S A CLINIC, A SALON, A KUMON, YOU KNOW, READING CENTER. THEY DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF AND WE DON'T WANT IT EITHER. BUT THEN MY LAST COMMENT WAS, JASON SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU CAN'T DICTATE THE BUILDING MATERIAL, BUT YOU CAN DICTATE HOW IT LOOKS. YEAH. SO YEAH, TO BE FAIR, WE CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THOSE WOULD BE OFFSETS. YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE IT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ENTRANCES ARE EITHER INTO THE BUILDING OR OUTSIDE THE BUILDING. THE, THE. BALCONIES, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, OR THE PORCHES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SET OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ALLOWS US TO AVOID A SQUARE METAL BOX, BUT I CAN'T NOT HAVE IT NOT BE METAL. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T ENFORCE THAT. ALL I CAN ENFORCE IS WHAT ARE CALLED ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. CORRECT. A GREAT EXAMPLE ON ALANIZ OF WHAT YOU COULD END UP WITH IS LIKE WHERE CROSSFIT WYLIE IS DOWN THERE. THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BRICK BUILDING WITH THE AND YOU SEE THE HOW THE THE DOORS GO INTERIOR AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE, THE COVER ON THEM AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT'S ABOUT OUR MINIMAL ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. SO YES, WE CAN ENFORCE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. WE JUST CAN'T DO BUILDING MATERIALS. CORRECT. YEAH. AND THEN THE LAST STATEMENT I'LL MAKE IS IS ALSO IN THEIR PRESENTATION, THEY POINTED OUT QUITE A FEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE AROUND THE AREA, LIKE THE TRANSFORMER COMPANY, THE THE OLD WATER MUNICIPALITY TREATMENT PLANT. IF WE HAD OUR SAY WE WOULD GET RID OF THOSE AS WELL. SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S HELPING THEIR CASE PUTTING THEM UP THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. LAST ONE I GOT IS LARRY HEATH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING US PRESENT TONIGHT. MY NAME IS LARRY HEATH. I LIVE AT 507 VIRGINIA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS FACILITY. SO WE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACTED OF ANYBODY IN THE STONE RANCH COMMUNITY. AND I COME HERE KIND OF IN A DUAL ROLE. ONE IS PERSONAL FROM JUST LIVING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. OUR BACKYARD BACKS UP SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE BUILDINGS FROM OUR BACKYARD AND OUR INSIDE OF OUR HOUSE AS WELL. SO I'VE COME FROM THAT CAPACITY TO ALSO, I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR STONE RANCH PREVIOUS YEAR, AND I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND THEY'VE ALLOWED ME TO KIND OF SPEAK FOR THEM IN THAT REGARD, THAT SOME OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT AREA, BUT SOME ARE NOT. IN FACT, SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WITH ME ARE WITHIN THAT AREA AS WELL. SO ANYWAY, I SEE THREE DIFFERENT ISSUES FOR US. ONE OF THEM IS PERSONAL. WE BACK RIGHT UP TO IT SO THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO AFFECT US FOR FOR ANY ADDITIONAL NOISE, ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND IF THEY PUT UP LIGHTS IN THE PARKING AREA, THOSE LIGHTS ARE DIRECTLY GOING TO COME RIGHT INTO OUR BACKYARD, INTO OUR, INTO OUR BEDROOM, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE OUR BEDROOM BACKS UP TO IT. SO IT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THAT. SO I ALSO WENT OUT TO TALK WITH A COUPLE OF REALTORS BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT SELLING OUR HOME PRIOR TO THIS, AND BOTH REALTORS SAID BACKING UP TO A ROAD IS ONE THING, BUT BACKING UP TO A ROAD WITH COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER AT LEAST 15 TO $20,000 DISCOUNT OFF OF A NORMAL PROPERTY VALUES. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTED. SO IF THE GENTLEMAN WOULD LIKE TO REIMBURSE ME FOR 15 TO $20,000 WHEN I GET READY TO SELL MY HOME, WELL, HEY, THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT IF HE DOESN'T, I MEAN, THAT'S A BIG IMPACT. SO THE OTHER ISSUE IS ALANIS IS NOT A STANDARD TWO LANE ROAD. IT COMES IN FROM THE EAST AS A FOUR LANE ROAD NARROWS DOWN REAL CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY, TO A THREE LANE ROAD, AND FROM THE EAST IT'S TWO LANES. TO THE WEST. NO, I'M SORRY, IT'S ONE LANE TO THE WEST, TWO LANES TO THE EAST. AS YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND CURVE AROUND THROUGH SOME BARRIERS, THOSE LANES CHANGE. AND SO FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T NORMALLY DRIVE ON ATLANTIS. ATLANTIS IS A [01:10:04] CONFUSING DRIVE BECAUSE DOWN THERE WHERE CURVES AROUND, WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT MAYBE 500FT DOWN, IT CHANGES THE OTHER WAY. SO YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES COMING FROM THE WEST AND ONE LANE GOING TO THE EAST. DRIVING ATLANTIS IS TAKES A LOT OF ATTENTION. SO ANYWAY, TRAFFIC AND PERSONAL AND MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU LIVED ACROSS THE STREET I'M JUST ASKING HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THIS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. ONE MORE, TOM NICKLAUS. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TOM NICKLAUS AND I LIVE AT 1550 SOUTH BALLARD AVENUE IN WYLIE. AND MY PROPERTY AND MY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY DAD AS WELL. THERE'S 13 ACRES TO THE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT 13 ACRES IS GOT HORSES ON IT. IT'S GOT MY DAD'S HOUSE AND HIS PROPERTY THERE, AND I LIVE DOWN THE ROAD FROM HIM, DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE FIELD FROM HIM. AND THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT THAT ARE BOTHERSOME HERE. HE'S LIVED THERE FOR 40 PLUS YEARS. I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 26. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE KIDS THAT WALK THROUGH THE BACK FIELD THERE THAT GO DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE ANIMALS DOWN THERE AT HIS HOUSE AND IT'S IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE TO ME. THIS WAS THIS WAS A THESE WERE HOMES WHEN THAT WAS FIRST BOUGHT. AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH GOLD ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. IF YOU SAW IT ON THE MAP, THERE'S A ALANIS, THEN THERE'S GOLD ROAD THAT COMES TO HIS HOUSE AND EVERYTHING TO THE EAST OF THAT IS HOMES. EVERYTHING. TO THE WEST OF THAT IS THE BUSINESSES LIKE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S A NATURAL BREAK FROM THAT. IT IS HOUSES THAT FRONT ALANIS. SO THAT'S A TOTAL CHANGE IN VENUE. IF YOU MAKE SOME OF THAT A BUSINESS OKAY. AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WAS. THE STREET THAT GOES IN GOLD ROAD, RIGHT THERE IS A ONE WAY YOU CAN'T GET TWO CARS DOWN IT. THAT IS A ONE WAY STREET. AND SO HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK I HAVE NO IDEA. OKAY. AND AND THE TERMS OF GETTING 18 WHEELERS IN THERE, WE'VE HAD EVERY KIND OF VEHICLE IMAGINABLE, INCLUDING AN 18 WHEELER, GET TO OUR PLACE AND WONDER, HOW AM I GOING TO TURN AROUND? AND THEN THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TURN AROUND. IT'S A PROBLEM FOR US. OKAY, THERE'S ANIMALS THERE. THERE'S HORSES. THEY DON'T DO WELL WITH LOTS OF TRAFFIC AND LOTS OF PEOPLE. THEY DON'T. THE TRAFFIC. I WANT TO REITERATE ON ALANIS, THAT IS A FAST MOVING ROAD. AND WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING INTO BUSINESSES STOPPING, SLOWING DOWN, GOING INTO BUSINESSES ON THAT ROAD, THAT THAT CONCERNS ME RIGHT THERE. THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEM. OKAY? IT'S A FAST ROAD. I AGREE, OF COURSE, WITH THE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDINGS AND ALL THAT. BUT THAT'S THE MAIN THING FOR ME IS THIS WAS A THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR MY PEOPLE IS WHAT IT IS. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. SO THAT THOSE ARE ALL THE FORMS I HAVE. IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. MY NAME IS VICKI HEATH AND I LIVE AT 507 VIRGINIA LANE. THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUILDINGS FROM YOUR HOMES. I CAN STAND IN OUR BREAKFAST ROOM AND SEE THE METAL BUILDING BEHIND US, AND THE ROOF IS RUSTING. IT'S VERY DISTASTEFUL. AND HIM SAYING THAT HE LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK HE LIVES CLOSE ENOUGH TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL HAVE ANY BEARING ON HIM, BUT IT HAS A LOT OF BEARING ON THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE WORKED HARD TO BUILD THESE HOMES AND LIVE IN THESE HOMES. AND NOW WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE OR LEAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOSS ON OUR HOMES BECAUSE OF THIS. SO WHAT THEY SAY IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER IF YOU LIVED OVER WHERE WE LIVE, WOULD YOU WANT IT? WOULD YOU WANT IT TO BE THERE EVERY DAY WHEN YOU LOOK UP? WE USED TO SIT ON OUR BACK PORCH. THE FIRST THING THAT [01:15:04] THIS GENTLEMAN DID IT WAS A GROVE OF TREES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OVER THERE, BUT DURING THE FALL, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. WITH THE SHOW OF ALL THE FALL LEAVES, HE CUT THEM ALL DOWN. AND SO NOW IT'S BARE. YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING ON THAT COMMUNITY. THERE ARE TWO HOUSES THERE. HE ORIGINALLY SAID TO MY HUSBAND THAT HE WAS GOING TO REBUILD AND BUILD A NEWER HOME, A NICE HOME THERE. SO I DON'T TRUST HIM. I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T TRUST HIM. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. JOSHUA, CAN I MAKE JUST ONE COMMENT? THERE WAS ONE COMMENT. CAN YOU COME UP AND TALK? JUST FORMALITIES. YES. LARRY HEATH AGAIN AT 507 VIRGINIA. THERE WAS THE ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF AN ENTRY INTO THAT PROPERTY. SO SOME ADDITIONAL WAY TO TURN IN AND TURN OUT. WHEN I LOOKED AT THOSE BUILDINGS, I DIDN'T SEE BARBERSHOPS, I SAW PLUMBERS, AND I SAW OTHER TYPES OF ELECTRICIANS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE PULLING NOT ONLY TRUCKS, LIGHT TRUCKS, PERHAPS, BUT IT ALSO TRAILERS. AND WHEN YOU PULL OUT ONTO ATLANTIS, LIKE I SAID, ATLANTIS IS A FAST MOVING, CONFUSING THREE LANE TO TWO LANE, FOUR LANE TO THREE LANE. IT'S CONFUSING. SOMEBODY PULLS OUT AND OUR EXIT AND ENTRANCE IS WITHIN PROBABLY 50 TO 75FT OF WHERE THAT ENTRANCE IS GOING TO BE. SO WHEN YOU PULL OUT A TRUCK WITH A TRAILER ON IT, ONTO PEOPLE WHO ARE CONVERTING FROM FOUR LANES TO THREE LANES, NOT SHARING THE WHICH LANES GO WHICH DIRECTION AND OTHER TRAILERS PULLING OUT, AND OUR OUR COMMUNITY ENTRANCE IS ALSO RIGHT THERE. WE MOVED IN EIGHT YEARS AGO AND IT WASN'T SO BAD AT THAT TIME. BUT NOW WHEN WE TRY TO EXIT AND ENTER THAT AREA, IT'S MUCH MORE RISKY. AND WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER ENTRANCE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION MIGHT BE PRETTY RISKY. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME FOR THAT. OKAY. I'LL TURN. OKAY. I'M DENISE HALSEY I LIVE ON FAIRFIELD IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION. AND IF ANYBODY'S BEEN ON ATLANTIS, IF YOU EVEN KNOW, COMING FROM 78, 18 WHEELERS CANNOT EVEN MAKE IT ONTO ATLANTIS WITHOUT TAKING OUT THE SIDE ROAD OR ALMOST HITTING A CAR. I'VE ALMOST BEEN HIT THREE TIMES THERE AND HAD TO BACK UP TWICE TO AVOID GETTING MY CAR RUN OVER BY AN 18 WHEELER. IT'S NOT A SAFE AREA, IT'S DEVALUATING OUR PROPERTIES. WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS AND I WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY A QUIET COMMUNITY. IT'S A BUSY STREET THERE. YOU CANNOT TELL. YOU CANNOT SEE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE LINES THAT THE ROAD CHANGES TO TWO LANES TO ONE LANE, ONE LANE TO TWO LANE. THEY TOOK THE STOP SIGNS OUT. SO THERE'S NO STOP. AND IT DOES GO FAST. AND PEOPLE THAT AREN'T AWARE OF THAT, THEY DON'T KNOW. AND IT'S IT'S JUST A DANGER AND IT'S NOT I'M SORRY TO BE DISRESPECTFUL, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS A RESPECTFUL BUSINESS TO BE PUT ACROSS FROM A HOMEOWNERS COMMUNITY. IT DOESN'T LOOK NICE. HE TOLD TWO DIFFERENT STORIES OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE, WHAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE. IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THIS IDEA, SO WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO THIS IDEA. I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A BEAUTY SALON THAT GOES IN THERE. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A NAIL SALON THAT GOES IN, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT THAT GOES IN THERE. IT'S NOT VIEWABLE FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S THERE. IT'S NOT SEEN. IT'S IT'S AN EYESORE RIGHT NOW, SINCE THEY DID TEAR DOWN ALL THE TREES, WHICH WERE VERY NICE, I JUST WOULD HOPEFULLY RESPECT THAT. THE CITY OF WYLIE RESPECTS THE HOMEOWNERS THAT DO LIVE HERE, DO PAY OUR TAXES, AND BUILT OUR HOMES THINKING THAT WE WOULD RETAIN OUR VALUES. I'LL JUST SAY I LIVED IN COPPELL. MY HUSBAND WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THERE AND THE PNC, AND THEY FOUGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEY FOUGHT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO DO THE SAME. THANKS. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF NOBODY ELSE [01:20:05] HAS A COMMENT. OKAY. AM I COMMENTS? I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE WAY TO SAY THIS. I KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP ON THE QUESTIONS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE USE TABLE AND JASON, YOU CAN INTERJECT IF I'M MISINTERPRETING ANYTHING. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE USE TABLE FOR. SORRY FOR CR CR, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED. AND I'M SAYING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANTS COME HERE AND TOLD US WHAT THEY THEY WANT TO DO. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THINGS CAN CHANGE, BUT WE WE'RE NOT APPROVING A SITE PLAN. WE'RE IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY COME BACK LATER, BUT THE ZONING WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN DONE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE USE TABLE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, LIKE I SAID, THAT I WOULDN'T I MEAN, MULTIFAMILY DWELLING. JUST OTHER LITTLE USES THAT WOULD HAVE A PRETTY HIGH IMPACT FROM A TRAFFIC HOSPITAL OR SANATORIUM. AND AGAIN, I'M SAYING SOME OF THESE THINGS. I KNOW THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE COMPARED TO US TALKING ABOUT UP HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO FOR SOMETHING TO CHANGE, AND OTHER THAN THE SITE PLAN, WE WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE TO ME. I THINK THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS IT KIND OF TIES INTO IT. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF. UNCERTAINTY. LIKE I SAID, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT THE Y'ALL'S PLAN, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED HERE THAT I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH OF THE PICTURES DIDN'T NECESSARILY MATCH THE DESCRIPTION. SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. I'M ONE PERSON. I DON'T DICTATE ANYTHING NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. SO IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I DO AT THIS POINT, DO WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL? IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ADDRESS SOME OF THIS STUFF, IT MORE THAN WELCOME TO. I HAVE THIS BACK HERE. OKAY. SO TWO MAIN CONCERNS, RIGHT? THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC AND THAT SECOND. YEAH. SO BUSINESS ALREADY IN THE STREET RIGHT. AND THIS STREET ALLEN STREET IS TWO. IT'S FOUR LANE ACTUALLY FROM HERE. BUT HERE IT BECAME ONE ONE LANE RIGHT. AND STILL HAVE SPACE. I BELIEVE THAT IN THE PLAN IT HAS I MEAN THIS WILL BE EXPANDED AND THIS IS THE SPEED IN THIS STREET, 40, 40 MILE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAS MULTIPLE EXIT, NOT ONLY THE ONE IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY, IT HAS EXIT HERE. IT HAS EXISTED EVEN IN THE OTHER STREET AND ONE IN FRONT OF ME, RIGHT. FOR MY PROPERTY. IT HAS. I MEAN, THE ROAD IS ALREADY THERE AND I WILL HAVE I HAVE ENTRANCE HERE. I WILL JUST MOVE IT TO THE MIDDLE TO MAKE IT A FIRE LANE. SO THE ONE THAT HAS THE PROPERTY, THAT HAS THE HORSES AND THIS STUFF, IT'S ACTUALLY OUT OF THE CITY. I MEAN, BEHIND ME HERE, IT'S NOT PART OF THE CITY. SO THE ONE THAT HAS THE HORSES AND THESE BUILDINGS, ALL THESE BUILDINGS, THESE ARE AREAS OF THE CITY FOR LARRY, CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. YEAH. FOR FOR THE I MEAN, HAVING I MEAN CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING COMMERCIAL BEHIND THE HOUSE. I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS ALREADY. I MEAN COMMUNITY RETAIL NUMBER SIX, FIVE AND FOUR, WE ARE JUST CONTINUING WHAT IS IN THERE. SO I MEAN, WE ARE NOT ADDING A NEW COMMERCIAL TO THE STREET. STREET ALREADY HAS COMMERCIAL. EVEN THE ONE IS ADJACENT TO ME. RIGHT. AND THIS ONE IN MY RIGHT IS VACANT LAND. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS VACANT LAND AS AGRICULTURE WASN'T ZONED BEFORE, AND IN FRONT DRIVE, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOUR LANE, NOW IT'S ONE LANE AND I HAVE GOOGLE STREET. YEAH. THIS IS FROM MY MY PROPERTY AND MY NEIGHBOR PROPERTY. THOSE ALL ARE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER LANDS HERE. [01:25:01] THESE ARE OUT OF THE CITY. SO WE ARE NOT ADDING ANYTHING NEW. AND FOR THE BUILDING IT WILL BE A METAL BUILDING, BUT WE'LL TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK GOOD BECAUSE WE NEED TO RENT IT, RIGHT. AND FOR THE TYPE OF BUSINESS WE WILL, WE ARE LIMITED TO THAT. WHAT IS ALLOWED IN COMMUNITY RETAIL? IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, IT'S NOT INDUSTRIAL. WE ARE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, A WORKSHOP OR CAR WORKSHOP. WE HAVE. IF YOU HAVE A ZONING RIGHT, AND WE WILL AVOID THE ZONING. THIS IS WHY I JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING AS WELL. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE DID ADJUST TO ATLANTIS ROAD. THEY SEEM TO BE ASSUMING THAT SOMEONE ELSE THAT MOVES INTO A PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IS GOING TO BE TERRIBLY CONFUSED ABOUT ATLANTIS. AND THERE'S ALSO AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE HEAVY TRUCKS WITH TRAILERS, AND THAT'S THEY'RE ASSUMING THERE'S GOING TO BE A BAIT AND SWITCH GOING ON HERE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY KIND OF BAIT AND SWITCH. WE'RE JUST USING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED US FOR THE BUILDINGS THAT WE DREW UP ON THE PROPERTY. AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO BELIEVE THAT OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE USING ATLANTIS ROAD ARE GOING TO BE SO CONFUSED THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO TO USE THE ROAD WITHOUT RUNNING INTO A CAR OR RUNNING OVER CHILDREN. I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO I'M NOT TOO SURE THAT MORE CARS ON A LAND IS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE. YOU KNOW, SOONER OR LATER THE CITY OF WALLY'S GOING TO BE GROWING. YOU'RE GOING TO GROW SOMEWHERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS, OH, WE USED TO BE ABLE TO SEE FOR MILES, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, AND NOW WE CAN'T BECAUSE THERE'S A CHURCH THERE, OR THERE'S A NEW BUILDING OR A THEATER. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP A COMMUNITY EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS, BECAUSE IT'S IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO MOVE IN SOMEWHERE DOWN THE STREET. I MEAN, HOW FAR DOWN THE STREET WOULD THESE PEOPLE BE WILLING TO SAY, OH, THAT'S OKAY. YOU CAN PUT IN ANYTHING YOU WANT, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT US. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE GETTING THINGS ADDRESSED. SO. I JUST HAVE TO WONDER THAT THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT IN 1982. RIGHT. THOSE ARE 1882. AND THOSE BUILDINGS ARE I MEAN, THE RUSTY BUILDING, THOSE ARE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THOSE SHOULD BE REMOVED. YEAH. AND I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE WORDS TO SAY WHAT I SAID. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ASSUMING ANY TYPE OF BAIT AND SWITCH. IT'S JUST THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT COULD HAPPEN. THAT'S ALL IT IS. YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S NOT LIMITED AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO GENERALLY, BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN AND THIS IS A LOGICAL STEP IS IT GETS IT GETS ZONED LIKE THIS. AND YOU DECIDE NOT TO DEVELOP IT AND IT GETS SOLD TO SOMEBODY ELSE. AND THEN THEY HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WON'T HAVE ANY INPUT ON. WE CAN WE CAN GET THE SITE PLAN AND IT'LL COME FORWARD, BUT WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO THERE. AND SO THAT IS MY CONCERN. AND I THINK IT MAY I MAY SHARE THAT WITH THEM. AND SO I'M CONVEYING THAT AND I'M NOT. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO. IT JUST OPENS UP A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES. SO FOR THIS WAY WE I MEAN THE COMMUNITY RETAIL NOT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR OR SOMETHING ELSE. YEAH. I MEAN, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, IS I KNOW THERE'S STUFF THERE AND I, I'VE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE AND MADE THAT ARGUMENT. IT'S JUST I THINK IN GENERAL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. AND IT MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NECESSARILY IF IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE, IT WOULD PROBABLY GO MORE TO A RESIDENTIAL SIDE. SO AND AGAIN I'M JUST SPEAKING TELLING, TELLING YOU ALL THAT. SO BUT I'LL, I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS COMMENTS. MIKE EXCUSE ME. MY BIG BASIC CONCERN IS I SPENT OVER 20 YEARS IN DEVELOPING PLANS AND PROCEDURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY, IT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE THERE WAS ENOUGH FORETHOUGHT PUT INTO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US [01:30:07] TO DO. WE USED TO USE A TERM IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY THAT DEVELOPED ON THE BACK OF A, OF A NAPKIN. THAT'S WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME. AND I THINK IF FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WANT ME TO BE VOTING FOR THIS, I'VE GOT TO SEE MUCH MORE DETAIL AND MORE THOUGHT PUT INTO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO, RATHER THAN GENERALITIES, AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING TIES TOGETHER, THAT THERE'S NO LOOSE ENDS HANGING OUT THE PICTURES. THE WORDS YOU'RE SAYING ALL HAVE TO MESH. OTHERWISE, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S HAPHAZARD. AND THAT'S THAT'S MY OPINION ON THIS. AND I'VE GOT PLENTY OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AT LOOKING AT THIS KIND OF STUFF COMING FROM COMING FROM CONTRACTORS. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WELL, THEN WE GO AHEAD AND SAY, OKAY. AND THEN THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND AND WE'RE LIKE, JOSH SAID, WE'RE STUCK. I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POSITION. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT GOING TO. I MEAN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ADD MORE DETAILS, MAYBE IF YOU WANT AND ADD MAYBE WHAT WHATEVER RESTRICTION YOU WANT US TO ADD. AND WE CAN ADD MORE DETAILS TO THE PROJECT TO SHOW YOU HOW I MEAN, THE FINAL PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ONLY CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. IF WE GET IT APPROVED, WE STILL HAVE THE PAYMENTS AND THIS STUFF WILL FOLLOW THE CITY CODE TO MAKE SURE THAT. AND I'LL TELL YOU, KNOWING THE MEN, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU GO FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN TO THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO CUT IT TO PIECES IN MY ESTIMATION. OKAY. AND AS FAR AS WHY IT GOES, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF LAND. WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY, VERY JUDICIOUS IN WHAT WE LOOK AT AND WHAT WE APPROVE FOR LAND USE WITHIN THE JURISDICTIONAL AREA OF WHAT WILEY CONTROLS. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY PICKY ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO SEE VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLANS PUT TOGETHER. I THINK WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO A DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORY IF THAT'S GOING TO HELP US IN THAT RESPECT. BUT THIS IS THE CATEGORY THAT WAS WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT, PLANNING, AND THIS IS WHAT THE CONSENSUS WAS. SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH CR WITH THE SUP. BUT WE'LL UNDERSTAND. WE CAN WE CAN RESTRICT US IN SUP. SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT POSITION WHERE WE START ARGUING ABOUT HOW WE'RE RESTRICTING CP FOR SURE. BRING SOMETHING SOLID AND CONCRETE TO US TO LOOK AT, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WHAT WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO DO. FOR THE CITY OF WILEY, APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, THAT'S MY THAT'S MY $0.02. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO I WAS ON THE 20 YEAR PLAN. WE WERE VERY STRICT ON WHERE EVERYTHING GOES AND OUR PLANNING AND OUR ZONING. AND THERE'S A LINE OF DELINEATION FOR GALL ROAD TO BALLARD. AND WE SAID LET'S KEEP THAT AGRICULTURE JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. SO TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THIS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO MAKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO MESS UP THAT SITE PLAN ANYMORE. WE ONLY HAVE 10% LAND LEFT, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. SO TO CHANGE THAT FOR ME TO DO IT, IT'S GOING TO JUST LIKE HIM. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SPECIAL BECAUSE THAT CONSIDERED PART OF THE AGRICULTURE. SO I MEAN PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW I'D LEAVE IT AS IT IS AS IN AS IT'S ZONED. LIKE I SAID, THAT IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT WE KEPT IT THAT WAY FOR RIGHT NOW. SO BUT TO CHANGE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT. SO IF I CAN INTERJECT FOR JUST A SECOND. YES, YOU ARE MOSTLY CORRECT, SIR. IT'S LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, NOT NECESSARILY AGRICULTURE, WHICH CAN BE ROUGHLY THE SAME THING, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE, NOT ZONING. RIGHT. I GUESS I HAD A SUGGESTION SINCE THE CHAIRMAN'S KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE USES ALLOWED IN CR, IT IS AN OPTION TO DO AGRICULTURAL WITH AN SUP FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE, BUT IT WOULD LIMIT IT TO JUST OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND THEN IT WOULD BE TIED TO THAT USE OR AG USES. THAT'S ALL YOU WOULD GET. BUT THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE PERSONAL SERVICE USES. [01:35:06] YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BARBERSHOPS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I THINK I THOUGHT ABOUT I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO US THAT WE CAN, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, PASS FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT'S READY AND WILLING TO DO WHAT WE NEED DONE IN THE CITY OF WYLIE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MOTIONS? I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE AS PRESENTED NOT BE APPROVED. A MOTION A SECOND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. TO BE CLEAR, A YES VOTE IS FOR DENIAL. OKAY. AND THE MOTION WAS CARRIED. SO. AND THEN IT'LL STILL GO TO COUNCIL CORRECT? YES. IT'LL GO TO COUNCIL ON JANUARY 13TH AND IT WILL TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT. BECAUSE PNC HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL. THIS MORNING. OKAY. AND THAT IS ALL THE ITEMS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON THE 16TH. SO YOU GET TO SEE US ONE MORE TIME BEFORE CHRISTMAS. LUCKY YOU. I KNOW. I GOTTA SEE THAT. THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO Y'ALL. OH, GOSH. THAT'S NICE. OKAY. ANYBODY WANT TO JOIN US? THIS. ALL RIGHT, I MOVE, WE ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.