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AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MARCH 11TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6:01 P.M. WE DO ASK IF YOU'RE HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EITHER SET TO VIBRATE OR TURNED OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL YOU NEED TO TAKE, WE ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVID DUKE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG. MAYOR PRO TEM JEFF FORRESTER. THE MAYOR PRO TEM INFORMED ME THAT HE WOULD BE OUT OF TOWN AND UNABLE TO ATTEND. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN GINO MILICI. PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION TO BE LED BY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE LED BY MYSELF. PLEASE PRAY WITH ME.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO COME TOGETHER IN THIS FREE COUNTRY. WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY SO WELL AS TO PROVIDE THOSE FREEDOMS. WE LIFT UP OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. WE ASK THAT YOU WALK WITH THEM DAILY, BRING THEM HOME SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES. HELP THEIR FAMILIES TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICES THEY GIVE ON A DAILY BASIS. LORD, WE ASK AS WE TRY TO LEAD THE CITY, THAT YOU WILL HELP US TO LEAD WITH YOUR INTEGRITY, WITH YOUR LIGHT, TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS, AND TO MAKE THEM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR ENTIRE CITY. I ASK ALL THIS IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME, AMEN. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE BE SEATED. MISTER MAYOR, CAN I MAKE
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ONE ANNOUNCEMENT? SURE. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. DECORUM. I DIDN'T GET TO MENTION IT WHEN SAYING THE PRAYER THERE THAT I JUST WANTED TO KEEP MISTER BOB HEATH IN OUR PRAYERS. HE WAS A PILLAR OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND HIS PASSED AWAY THIS WEEKEND AND JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT TO EVERYONE TO MAKE[PR1. Eagle Scout Lillian Goodrich.]
SURE THAT THEY KEEP HIM IN THEIR PRAYERS. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS THIS EVENING. OUR FIRST IS HONORING EAGLE SCOUT LILLIAN GOODRICH. SO YOU'LL JOIN ME DOWN FRONT.SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BE HONORING ANOTHER EAGLE SCOUT HERE IN WILEY. AND I FOUND OUT THAT LILLIAN ACTUALLY ACHIEVED HER EAGLE SCOUT IN EIGHTH GRADE, IF I'M TOLD CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT? SO SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH AT SUCH A RAPID ENDEAVOR. I KNOW MOST PEOPLE ARE LUCKY TO ACHIEVE THAT BY THE TIME THAT THEY FINISH HIGH SCHOOL. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAD JUST AN AMAZING AND TOUCHING SERVICE PROJECT IN ORDER TO EARN THAT RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE EXCELLENCE IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON A PROJECT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT BETTERS THAT COMMUNITY. SO I WILL LET YOU TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT YOU UNDERTOOK. AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PICTURES AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO MY PROJECT WAS FOR GROVES ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS A LOCAL SCHOOL HERE IN WILEY. I BUILT A SENSORY PATH, WHICH IS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TEXTURES ON THE GROUND SO THAT THE KIDS WITH SENSORY ISSUES OR SPECIAL NEEDS CAN GO AND FEEL IT SO THAT THEY CAN HELP BATTLE OVER STIMULATION AND OTHER BATTLES. YEAH. SO YOU WANT TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU WENT ABOUT. SO BASICALLY YOU CAN SEE THERE IT'S LIKE A BIG WOODEN FRAME WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TEXTURES.
THERE'S LIKE TURF, THERE'S RIVER ROCK, PVC PIPE, LIKE ALL THAT STUFF. SO IT TOOK A LOT OF PLANNING, A LOT OF MATH TO GET ALL THE RIGHT. LIKE, OH MY GOD, WHERE'S THE WORD MEASUREMENTS? AND TO RESEARCH LIKE WHAT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THEM. I HAD A MEETING WITH THE SCHOOL TEACHERS THAT TEACH THAT CLASS SO THAT I CAN FIGURE OUT IS MY PLAN WORTH IT AND IS IT THERE IS ANYTHING I COULD CHANGE, OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I COULD DO TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE EFFICIENT? SO HOW
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DID YOU GO ABOUT GETTING ALL OF YOUR SUPPLIES? SO GETTING MY SUPPLIES, I WROTE TWO LETTERS TO HOME DEPOT AND TO LOWE'S SO THAT I COULD SEE IF I COULD BENEFIT AND USE LESS OF MY FUNDRAISING MONEY SO THAT I COULD DONATE MORE TO THE SCHOOL. AND I ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF A LOT OF DONATIONS FROM BOTH STORES. SO THAT HELPED MY FUNDRAISING A LOT, AND I WAS ABLE TO GIVE BACK SO MUCH MORE TO THE SCHOOL. THAT'S AMAZING WORK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO AS YOU CAN TELL FROM HER EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECT, IT'S NOT SIMPLY GOING AND SPENDING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER, FINDING A COOKIE CUTTER SOLUTION ONLINE. SHE COMPLETED THE FUNDRAISING, REACHED OUT TO GET DONATIONS, AND THEN GOES AND DOES THE WORK HERSELF. LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD A COUPLE OF HELPERS THERE, BUT IT REALLY IS A FULL LABOR OF LOVE AND JUST ENJOY SEEING THIS AMONG THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN A WORLD THAT IS OVERLY FOCUSED ON SELF, TAKING THE TIME TO BECOME A LEADER AND PROVIDE SERVANT LEADERSHIP IS SO IMPORTANT, AND IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE IN THOSE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO WILL BE THE NEXT GENERATION, BECAUSE ONE DAY ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM, EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME YOUNGER, YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS HERE THIS EVENING, BUT ALL OF US WILL MOVE ON. WE'LL TRANSITION AND HAND THE REINS OFF TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS. AND SEEING THOSE QUALITIES AND THOSE TRAITS BEING DEVELOPED THAT MAKE GOOD LEADERS IN THE FUTURE. AGAIN, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE LOVE TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR HERE IN THE CITY. AND SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. LET'S GIVE HER A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THIS PROJECT. AND I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ FOR YOU THIS EVENING. WHEREAS LILLIAN GOODRICH HAS EARNED THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT BY SCOUTING AMERICA.AND WHEREAS THE CONFERRING OF AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST HONORS BESTOWED UPON A SCOUT, WHEREAS LESS THAN 5% OF ALL SCOUTS ATTAIN THIS GOAL. AND WHEREAS THIS ACHIEVEMENT CARRIES WITH IT GREAT HONOR AND A COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND TO SERVE AS A GUIDE AND ROLE MODEL FOR BOTH COMMUNITY AND NATION. AND WHEREAS SUCH AN AWARD IS EARNED IN THAT THE RECIPIENT MUST PERFORM AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE AND PASS THE RIGID REQUIREMENTS EXACTED TO ACHIEVE THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD. AND WHEREAS LILLIAN GOODRICH'S EAGLE SCOUT SERVICE PROJECT WAS TO BUILD A SENSORY PATH AT GROVES ELEMENTARY TO HELP STUDENTS WITH SENSORY PROCESSING CHALLENGES BY PROVIDING A STRUCTURED, PREDICTABLE ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO MODULATE THEIR SENSORY INPUT, IMPROVE SELF-REGULATION, AND MANAGE SENSORY OVERLOAD IN RECOGNITION. THEREFORE, I. MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, HEREBY CONGRATULATE LILLIAN GOODRICH FOR HAVING AN EAGLE SCOUT AWARD CONFERRED UPON HER BY SCOUTING AMERICA AND PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO LILLIAN GOODRICH ON THIS, THE 11TH DAY OF MARCH, 2025, IN HONOR OF HER ACHIEVEMENT OF ATTAINING THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT. CONGRATULATIONS.
[PR2. Women's History Month.]
SO THIS EVENING, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, THROUGHOUT OUR NATION AND AROUND OUR WORLD, CONTRIBUTE IN WAYS THAT ARE.I'LL JUST PUT IT AS IT'S HARD TO PUT INTO WORDS. I KNOW FROM BOTH MY FAMILY, MY WORKPLACE, AND FROM MY ROLE WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR AMAZING INDIVIDUALS HERE WITHIN THE CITY THAT WOMEN REALLY DO TAKE A LEAD IN MANY, MANY AREAS. THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SECOND TO NONE. WE APPRECIATE THEM HERE AT THE CITY. WE APPRECIATE OUR BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE MOMS MOTHER, ALL THE MOMS, THE GRANDMOTHERS, DAUGHTERS AND
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EVERYONE ELSE HERE WITHIN WILEY AND JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS EVENING. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS BY ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE DO ASK YOU TO COMPLETE A FORM PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN ORDER TO SPEAK. COUNCIL DOES REQUEST COMMENTS BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL? SIX IF REPRESENTING A GROUP, WE DO REMIND EVERYONE UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT COUNCIL CANNOT CONVERSE, DELIBERATE OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY MATTER PRESENTED DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. MISS STORM, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAD ANY FORMS TURNED IN. IS THAT CORRECT?[CONSENT AGENDA]
THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, WITH NO FORMS TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL THEN MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL AND STAFF. DO WE HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT WOULD BE REQUESTED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION OR QUESTIONS? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO WITH WITH MAYOR[1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Downtown Historic District (DTH) to Downtown Historic District - Special Use Permit (DTH-SUP) on 0.23 acres to allow for a Smoking Establishment. Property located at 308 N Ballard Avenue (ZC 2025-02). ]
PRO TEM FORRESTER ABSENT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. SPECIAL USE PERMIT TH SUP EN 0.23 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 308 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE. ZONING CASE 2020 502. MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO HAVE A CIGAR LOUNGE AT 308 NORTH BALLARD. THE SUP REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET REQUIRE THAT THIS WILL ONLY BE FOR CIGARS FOR THE MANUFACTURER AND SELLING AND ACTUAL USE OF ENJOYMENT OF CIGARS. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY OTHER SMOKING OR RELATED TYPE PRODUCTS ALLOWED FOR SALE ON THE PREMISES. EXCUSE ME. THERE'S A REQUEST WITHIN THE SUP TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT. THAT WOULD BE FRIDAYS AND SATURDAY, FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS WITH A LIMIT TO 9 P.M. TO BE CUT OFF AT THAT TIME. DURING THE P AND Z MEETING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION LIKE THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL HOME THAT'S JUST TO THE NORTH AND IT'S RENTED OUT AS AN AIRBNB.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE P AND Z COMMISSION HAD. SO THAT'S ALSO A REQUEST WITHIN THE SUP. WE MAILED OUT 14 NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS. WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR AND TWO IN OPPOSITION. BUT YOU WERE EMAILED BY THE CITY SECRETARY THIS AFTERNOON, I BELIEVE SEVEN MORE THAT WE'VE GOT IN FAVOR. NONE OF THOSE ARE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA, BUT THEY ALL ARE MINUS ONE. THEY ARE ALL CITIZENS OR COME FROM ADDRESSES WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE. AND THEN AFTER THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE LIMITATIONS OF THE ENTERTAINMENT AND ALL THAT, AS I MENTIONED AT THE P AND Z COMMISSION MEETING, THE COMMISSION DID VOTE FIVE ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT MAYOR, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A QUICK PRESENTATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF IT WORKS.
THANK YOU. HELLO. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. HELLO AGAIN. AND THIS TIME I FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND TODAY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION. IT'S A FREESTANDING BUILDING. I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT FOR, FOR THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, TO NOT AFFECT THE TENANTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL ANY ALCOHOL THIS TIME. JUST THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO SELL CIGARS, AS I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT. AT THIS TIME. AND ALSO WHILE WE HAVE THESE TIMES, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE A
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LITTLE LIKE A ENTERTAINMENT, LIKE A LIVE MUSIC OUT FRONT, THE PROPERTY WE WANT TO BUILD, LIKE A LITTLE DECKS SO THE PEOPLE CAN GO THERE. HAVE A SEAT. RELAX. SO LIVE MUSIC WITH CIGARS, AND ALSO THEY CAN BRING OR DON'T DRINK WHATEVER THEY CAN FIRST GO TO ANY RESTAURANT AND AFTER THAT THEY CAN GO THERE, HAVE A SEAT AND SMOKE CIGARS AND WIFE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PLANNING. AND SO FOR THIS TIME, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL ALCOHOL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO OFFER LIKE ANY FOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST CIGARS AND, AND THE REST, THE HISTORY. THAT'S WHAT I DO. MAKE MY OWN CIGARS. I GOT MY OWN COMPANY. I WANT TO SELL ALL MY PRODUCTS. I DON'T WANT TO SELL ANY EXTRA PRODUCTS OR BOUTIQUE CIGARS.IT'S GOING TO BE JUST CRAFT MY CIGARS. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN, I CAN, I CAN WE CAN DISCUSS RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU.
OKAY. AND I WOULD ASSUME OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW OTHER SLIDES THAT YOU DIDN'T WALK US THROUGH, BUT I ASSUME THAT THE AIR FILTRATION AND ALL THAT IS STILL PLANNED FOR THE BUILDING, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME. ALSO, IT'S A HOME LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TENANTS RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S MORE IT'S EASY TO TAKE THE SMOKE AND PUT A BLOW OUT, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIT ANY TENANTS AT THIS TIME OKAY. WELL I WILL SEE COUNCILMAN MALIKI, BUT. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOSE. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. MR. HERNANDEZ, FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING OUR ADVICE AND OUR THOUGHT PROCESS DURING YOUR LAST APPLICATION FOR THIS AND TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SAID IN KIND OF TRYING TO FIND A NEW LOCATION, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD SPOT FOR WHAT YOU WHAT ARE YOU DOING? THE ONLY QUESTION IS THE OUTSIDE PURPOSES YOU ASKING FOR A VARIANCE? I GUESS UNTIL NINE I HEARD IT CORRECT NINE 10:00 ON THE WEEKENDS. PRETTY PRETTY MUCH. IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND, HE SAY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. BUT YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE TONIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO STAND LIKE A LATE HOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE. WILL YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF FILTRATION OR ANYTHING THAT WILL? I KNOW IT'S VERY HARD TO GET THE AIR FROM THE OUTSIDE PATIO OR WHATNOT, BUT WILL THERE BE ANY FANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, WE CAN PUT IT LIKE A LITTLE LIKE A FAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND PUT IT LIKE FOR THE STREET, BUT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR BEING THAT IT'S A RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S CORRECT. SPOT. OKAY.
THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WHAT I WILL DO IS ASK YOU GUYS TO STEP ASIDE AND I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS WE HAVE. WAS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD FIRST? MAYOR, CAN I JUST GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION? SURE, SURE. IF YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL LET YOU DO THAT. THANK YOU. HELLO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM. SO I'M ROBERT ALVAREZ. MY ADDRESS IS 1404 PAULA LANE, MESQUITE, TEXAS, AS A REALTOR. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE WORKING TOGETHER. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THIS IS OUR THIRD. THIS WILL BE OUR THIRD LOCATION. SO JUST GO THROUGH KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA.
THIS IS 308 NORTH BALLARD FREESTANDING. THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE AIRBNB CAME TO THE PNC.
WE SPOKE. THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG ATTRACTION FOR US. WE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT THAT. THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE PENETRATING THEM, ETC. BUT ONCE THEY SAW WHAT IT WAS, THEY WERE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. SO OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO DO THE HAND-ROLLED CIGARS, THE ARTISANAL. THAT'S AN IDEA OF WHAT HIS CIGAR LOUNGE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. THAT'S IN THE ROYSE CITY LOCATION. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT HIS LEGACY. I THINK Y'ALL ALL RECALL THAT AND HIS OPPORTUNITY AND TO GET TO AMERICA. SO HERE'S SOME OF HIS PRODUCTS. THEY'RE HAND-ROLLED CIGARS. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN EVEN SEE HIM AT CREED. CREED ACTUALLY HIRED HIM TO GO IN AND DO A SPECIAL EVENT IN NORTH PARK. AND THAT'S ONE OF HIS SHOWROOMS OR ROLLING TABLE ON EITHER SIDE.
LET'S SEE. SO HERE ARE THE HIS NAME AND THEY GIVE WRITE TO ME AS IF I WASN'T THERE. SHE IS MY WIFE. SINGING. FROM. IN RESPONSE. SO THAT'S JUST A TASTE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT THEY
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BRING. IT'S IN SPANISH. THEY DO. BUT SHE ALSO DOES ENGLISH ETC. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT THAT INVITES. IT'S NOT A HUGE CROWD, IT'S NOT LOUD, IT'S NOT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT, BECAUSE P AND Z WASN'T QUITE SURE HOW LOUD THE MUSIC WOULD BE, AND WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH SOME PARAMETERS, ETC. THE AIR FILTRATION IS INSIDE THE INSIDE OF IT. AND THEN LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED ABOUT OUTDOORS, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT SOME SOMETHING TO MOVE, CIRCULATE THE AIR. SOME OF HIS PRESS. IT'S, YOU KNOW LIKE WFAA EAST DALLAS HAND-ROLLED CIGAR SHOP. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN AMAZING STORY THAT THEY ACTUALLY PRODUCED. AND YOU CAN READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS THERE. WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC FOR A MOMENT. LANDLORD RECOMMENDATION LETTER FROM DAVID LOWERY, THE ONE IN ROYSE CITY. AND THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR THING. THIS IS WHY WE WANT YOU TO APPROVE IT. ECONOMIC GROWTH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. THERE'S NOT. WE'LL HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHER. WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED THERE. ALSO CULTURAL ENRICHMENT OF DOWNTOWN. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE QUITE A THING TO ADD. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE WE NEED YOU ALL TO APPROVE THE SUP AND TRUST IN OUR COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT JOB. SO JUST JOIN US MAKING A POSITIVE IMPACT ON WILEY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. WE'LL HAVE A SEAT NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. SO WITH THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME THAT YOU MAY DO SO. I DID HAVE ONE FORM TURNED IN TO SPEAK, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT INDIVIDUAL TO COME FORWARD FIRST AND I APOLOGIZE. IS IT JENNA JOHNSON? JANA. JANA RODRIGUEZ YES. AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. OKAY. HI.I'M JONAH RODRIGUEZ, AND I OWN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR, 310 NORTH BALLARD. AND WE ARE THE AIRBNB OWNERS. AND REALLY, WE JUST CAME TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE CIGAR SHOP AFTER LEARNING, JUST AS HE MENTIONED, AFTER LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT AND RESEARCHING, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I THINK IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT OUR GUESTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY AND BENEFIT FROM, AS WELL AS THE LOCAL RESIDENTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND JUST SHARE THAT WE'RE IN SUPPORT, AND WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THIS. THE HOUSE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THERE THAT'S CARING FOR IT AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REOPEN IT. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD TO ADDRESS COUNCIL? OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT. NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HASKINS OR FOR THE APPLICANT, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? THANK YOU, MAYOR, I'VE GOT A FEW QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY GLAD Y'ALL CAME BACK. I WANTED TO CATCH YOU AT THE END WHEN YOU WENT OUT. AND I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT YOU DO THIS, COME BACK WITH A STANDALONE BUILDING, BECAUSE I LOVE THE IDEA OF YOU BEING ABLE TO OFFER YOUR CRAFT IN WILEY. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT HOW WE GOT TO SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE, BECAUSE THEY SEEM A LITTLE LOOSE AS FAR AS WHAT THE STAGE. THERE'S NO SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING, DO WE, IS THAT WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING FOR THAT. THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO HRC BECAUSE THIS IS DOWNTOWN, RIGHT.
SO IF COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVES P AND Z RECOMMENDATION, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH WHATEVER ADDITIONS OR ALTERATIONS THEY WANT TO DO TO THE PROPERTY. THAT GOES TO HRC FOR RECOMMENDATION AND COMES BACK TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. SO THEY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH TO HRC. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. OKAY. THE 80DB AT THE PROPERTY LINE. I KNOW I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT. JUST KNOWING WHAT 80DB IS AND. WHAT. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST SAY WE LANDED ON THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT IT'S LESS THAN WHAT BALLARD STREET GENERATES JUST WITH CARS DRIVING BY. YEAH. SO IT STAYS UNDER THAT. AND MY CONCERN WITH IT IS NOT IT. IT'S THE IT BEING OPEN TO THAT ALL THE TIME MORE THAN ANYTHING BECAUSE I WANT THEM I WANT Y'ALL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MUSIC, I WANT THAT. BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS RIGHT AROUND THERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT BEING A. LOUD ENOUGH AT 80DB, BECAUSE 69 IS NORMALLY YOUR THRESHOLD FOR CROSSING OVER INTO, YOU
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KNOW, I WANT TO SAY NOISE POLLUTION, BUT NOISE POLLUTION. SO ANYTHING OVER 69, AS I UNDERSTAND IT CROSSES OVER INTO NOISE POLLUTION. SO IF IT'S AT THE IT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE AT THAT, THAT THAT MEANS THAT THE COFFEE STORE NEXT DOOR IS NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY REPRIEVE IF THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT AND IT IF IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO AN ISSUE OF HOW OFTEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, SO IS IT EVERY WEEKEND. IS IT EVERY NIGHT WHEN WE PASS SOME OF THE LAST ONES, I THINK WE SET TIME LIMITS AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF DAYS PER YEAR THEY COULD THEY COULD HAVE LIVE MUSIC. SOME OF THAT, I THINK, WAS TO ALLOW THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THINGS AS WELL, BECAUSE THE WAY MUSIC CARRIES, IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE THAT YOU KNOW OF? NO, WE WHAT WE, WE SETTLED ON WAS JUST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS AND THEN CUT OFF AT NINE. SO IT BASICALLY JUST BE WEEKEND NIGHTS, OKAY. AND THEN CUT OFF AT 9 P.M. AND THE QUESTION I HAVE WITH PUTTING IT IN THE ZONING, THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING BECAUSE MY FEELING AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS IF WE PUT IT IN THE ZONING, THERE'S NO RECOURSE FOR THAT. THE CITY OR RESIDENTS AROUND HAVE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ZONING. IF THEY STAY UNDER THOSE TWO THINGS, THEN YES, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THOSE AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THOSE TWO RULES FRIDAY, SATURDAY UNTIL NINE AND THEN STAY UNDER 80. SO WHAT SAFEGUARD COULD WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD TO GET A RELATIVE. WHAT IS THE 80DB LOOK LIKE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THE ZONING THAT WOULD GIVE SOME RECOURSE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TO REASSESS OR REASSESSMENT? CAN WE HAVE IT AS A REOCCURRING, YOU KNOW, SUP OR A TEMPORARY PERMIT REQUIREMENT? IS THERE? I'M THINKING THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, IS TO LOWER THAT THRESHOLD, IF THAT'S YOUR CONCERN, BECAUSE HAVING HAVING A REOCCURRING SUP THAT THAT PUTS A HUGE BURDEN ON THEM. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. RIGHT. AS MUCH AS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOMETHING AROUND THE FACT THAT AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE ZONING BECAUSE NOTHING I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT IN THE ZONING. SO AS FAR AS ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE PASSED FOR, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT ZONING, I WOULD SAY HERMAN MARSHALL, WE DID THAT. HERMAN MARSHALL WAS THE ONE THAT HAD A DECIBEL LEVEL AT THE PROPERTY LINE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE FOLKS THAT LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THAT. IT'S OVER BY NAPOLI'S, BUT NOT THAT NOT THE HERMAN MARSHALL DOWNTOWN, BUT THE HERMAN MARSHALL, BECAUSE WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY WERE PLANNING IT OUT, THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE AN EVENT SPACE. THEY WERE GOING TO DO. YES. AND SO WE LIMITED THAT TO WEEKENDS. AND THERE WAS A TIME I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS. AND THEN THERE WAS A DECIBEL LIMIT ALSO THAT WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY ALLOW, BECAUSE WHAT WE NORMALLY ALLOW IS I THINK IT'S 54, 56DB AT NIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE, I THINK. AND MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS IT'S IN DOWNTOWN, IN CONFINED AREAS, WITH CONFINED SPACE, WITH SMALL LOTS WITH, YOU KNOW, AND THE ONE ON HERMAN MARSHALL'S HADN'T HAD ANY TIME TO KIND OF TEST IT OUT TO SEE, HEY, HOW DOES IT WORK? AND IT'S A GREAT BIG, HUGE OPEN AREA THAT BACKED UP TO A FENCE THAT THEN HAD A WHOLE BUILD LINE OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THAT AND THE HOUSE. RIGHT. SO THE DISTANCE IS MY CONCERN THERE.SURE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN HERE, BUT IT WAS BASICALLY ONE SINGER AND POSSIBLY AN ACOUSTIC GUITAR. WE COULD KIND OF JUST SEE WHERE THAT FALLS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO TO LIMIT IT, UNLESS WE JUST STICK WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD ALMOST NOT ALLOW IT. OKAY.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. THAT'S NOT MY GOAL. MY GOAL IS NOT MY GOAL. YEAH. WE WERE JUST TRYING TO RAISE IT UP A LITTLE BIT WHERE, HEY, THIS IS THE THING THAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND I AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST FIND A WAY TO LOWER THAT NUMBER TO THE 69 AND, AND THEN SEE, HEY, IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, WE CAN THEN CROSS THAT BRIDGE. AND THE REASON WHY I'M PICKING 69, I COULD BE WRONG IN THAT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT THAT'S THE LINE IF IT'S CHANGED OR THAT'S NOT IT, WE CAN IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE CAN WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH ON THAT NUMBER AND THEN COME TO AN AGREEMENT WHEN WE COME BACK, BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T THINK IF IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN IF IT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT AT THE POINT THAT THEY COMPLAIN AND THERE REALLY IS A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEACE DOES DOES MATTER. YES, SIR. SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, I'M GOOD. THE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS JUST TO SEE IF ON THE AIR QUALITY, SOME OF THAT FROM THE CONCERN ABOUT NOT JUST THE AIR FILTRATION THAT'S THERE, BUT THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE EVENT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT ENSURES THAT THAT THE AIR QUALITY THAT'S ALL IN THE
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BUILDING CODE, SIR. THEY WILL NOT GET A CO WITHOUT FOLLOWING WHAT THE BUILDING CODE SAYS TO DO FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE PART OF THE ZONING IN ORDER TO BE ENFORCED. OKAY. SO THE BUILDING ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THE AIR QUALITY FOR. YES SIR. SURE DOES. OKAY. IF IT ADDRESSES IT I'M GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TWO THINGS REAL QUICK. FIRST, IN REGARDS TO THE DECIBELS, WE HOST EVENTS DOWNTOWN, THE CITY OF WILEY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO START REQUIRING BUSINESSES TO STAY AT A CERTAIN DECIBEL, WE PROBABLY SHOULD FOLLOW THOSE SAME RULES. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BECAUSE BLUEGRASS ON BALLARD PROBABLY DOES NOT FOLLOW THOSE SAME RULES. AND THAT GOES ON UNTIL, I BELIEVE, 10:00.CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. BOO ON BALLARD PROBABLY IS THE SAME THING. SO I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT. THE SECOND THING IS, IS WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO. AT LEAST FOUR OF YOU AGREEING TO SOMETHING. WE CAN'T HAVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SAYING, I WANT THIS, I WANT THIS, I WANT THAT, I WANT THIS, I WANT. SO IF THE DECIBEL THING IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT CONSIDERED, THEN THREE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO BE IN AGREEMENT. WELL, THEN LET'S LET'S JUST REMOVE THE DECIBEL REQUIREMENT AND THEN IT FALLS ON PEACE, DISTURBING THE PEACE. AND IF THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE, THEN IT JUST BECOMES THE ISSUE. SAME ISSUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE NOW IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT THAT WAS AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT, SINCE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT STATES 80DB, IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT, THEN THREE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO AGREE TO THAT IN A MOTION. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON IT. CORRECT. I HEAR YOU. OKAY. SO, COUNCILMAN STRANG, I SEE YOU HAVE A YES. THANK YOU. YOUR COMMENT, JUST LOOKING THROUGH THE CITY ORDINANCES, I DON'T SEE ANY SPECIFIED DECIBEL THING. I FOUND SOMETHING ON W.H.O, BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR OPINION.
BUT I DO SEE IN OUR ORDINANCES. IS THAT PLAINTIFF? PHONOGRAPH, TELEVISION, RADIO, ETC, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 P.M. AND 7 A.M. AND SINCE THIS IS OCCURRING IN ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, AND I PRESUME IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EVERY DAY AND IT'S NOT ON A SUNDAY, I'M NOT TOO TERRIBLY CONCERNED. I DO KNOW THAT ALL THE EVENTS DOWNTOWN, LIKE THE CAR SHOW AND AS CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THEY'RE PRETTY FAR ABOVE 80DB. SO LIKE I SAID, NOT PARTICULARLY CONCERNED. I THINK THAT THE RIGHT NOW I'M SATISFIED TO PASS THIS AS IS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'RE READY FOR ONE. IF WE DON'T HAVE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WHICH I DIDN'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN, BE OPEN TO IT. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM AS PRESENTED. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. COUNCILMAN STRANG, I WILL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH A SECOND COUNCIL CAST. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. SO THE MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 1. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AGAINST.
WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ONE. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND
[2. Consider, and act upon, authorizing the City Manager to sign a Development Agreement, pending zoning, between the City of Wylie and Skorburg Retail Corporation for the development of a single family development generally located north and west of Country Club Road and McMillen Road.]
ACT UPON AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PENDING ZONING BETWEEN THE CITY OF WYLIE AND SCHAUBERG RETAIL CORPORATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH AND WEST OF COUNTRY CLUB ROAD AND MCMILLAN ROAD. MR. HASKINS, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER FOR SOME OF OUR NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS. A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS BASICALLY A WAY TO SET SOME STANDARDS FOR A PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT DOING A PLAN, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAY WHEN A DEVELOPER GOES IN, THEY'RE SAYING, YES, WE AGREE TO THESE CERTAIN THINGS, EVEN THOUGH THE ZONING IS WHAT WE CALL BASE ZONING. SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ACTUAL ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT BEING SAID, WHEN WE TALKED LAST AND COUNCIL APPROVED STAFF, THE WRITING OF THIS ORDINANCE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ACTUAL ZONING ITSELF, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED. THE ONE ITEM THAT THE APPLICANT VOLUNTARILY ENTERED INTO WAS A BUILDING MATERIALS AGREEMENT, WHICH STATES THAT THEY WILL FOLLOW THE CITY OF WILEY'S BUILDING MATERIALS FOR EXTERIOR AND THOSE TYPE OF MATERIALS BRICK, STUCCO, STONE ROOF, SLOPES, ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, WHICH STATE LAW DOES NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE THEM TO DO. THEY ALSO AGREED TO DO AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH BOARD ON BOARD CAPPED FENCE ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE NORTH AND AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT OR[00:35:08]
ADDRESSES REMOVING THE EXISTING RADIO TOWERS WITH THE PROPER PERMITS THAT WILL BE DONE BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION IS DONE. IT'LL BE PART OF THE DEMOLITION AND OR CLEANUP OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO UTILITY WORK OR ROAD WORK OR ANY OF THAT SORT OF THING. AND THEN LASTLY, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWS CITY STAFF WHICH WILL BE PLANNING, ENGINEERING AND FIRE WILL GET TOGETHER WITH THE HOA AND THE DEVELOPER AND EITHER PROVIDE A PUNCH THROUGH STREET SWEET GUM DRIVE OR A INLET THAT WILL HOPEFULLY SOLVE, BUT DEFINITELY ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING TO THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH. WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS JUST TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR IT IN HERE. BUT THE IF IT IS A PUNCH THROUGH STREET, THAT WOULD BE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY WITH A KNOX BOX, CORRECT? YES. AND I HESITATE BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AN AUTOMATIC GATE NOW. WELL, I SHOULD SAY THE KNOX BOX. I SHOULD SAY IT SHOULD BE. IT WILL BE. THE STREET WOULD NOT BE FOR PUBLIC USE. IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR EMERGENCY USE WITH WHATEVER, WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY IS IN PLACE. THAT IS CORRECT. I APPRECIATE THE POINT THERE. YES, SIR. BUT BUT IT WOULD NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. JUST MAKING SURE THAT'S WHAT IT CALLS FOR, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME FORWARD AS IF THE STREET CAME THROUGH. THEY DIDN'T WANT GENERIC TRAFFIC TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH. YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION. COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN. MALIK. THANKS, MAYOR. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION AND I GUESS MORE OF A COMMENT REALLY, IN A SENSE, REMOVING OF THE RADIO TOWERS FROM AFTER THE MEETING. THE MORE I DIG INTO IT AND TALK TO SOME PEOPLE THAT KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS, I GUESS FAA AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE THOSE RADIO TOWERS IN THEIR, I GUESS, IN THEIR PLATFORMS OR PROGRAMS OR WHATNOT. SO I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROPER CHANNELS AND NOTIFYING THAT BEFORE ANY WORK STARTS AND BEFORE THEY EVEN START TAKING THEM DOWN. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS THERE. YES, SIR, I UNDERSTAND.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL AND IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN STRANG THANK YOU MAYOR. I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DUKE? I THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO
[3. Consider, and act upon, Ordinance No. 2025-11 for a change in zoning from Agricultural District (AG/30) to Single Family - 10 District (SF 10/24) on 59.755 acres to allow for a single-family detached development. Property generally located at 1755 FM 1378 and 1813 and 2241 McMillen Road (ZC 2024-14). ]
ITEM THREE, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025. DASH ONE ONE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AG 30 TO SINGLE FAMILY TEN. DISTRICT SF 1024 ON 59.755 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1755, FM 1378 AND 1813 AND 2241 MCMILLAN ROAD ZONING CASE 2024 DASH 14. MR. HASKINS THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THIS IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE FOR THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YOU NOTICE IN YOUR PACKET THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY THE APPLICANT, AND NOW WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM BEING APPROVED, THE CITY MANAGER CAN SIGN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT PENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY, I KNOW WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION LAST TIME, AND MOST OF THE POINTS AND REQUESTS WERE PUT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SO THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE ON CONSENT EXCEPT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.CORRECT. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. IF THERE ARE NONE, I'D BE OPEN TO A MOTION. COUNCILMAN STRANG MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM IS PRESENTED PLEASE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE ITEM IS PRESENTED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN MALIKAI? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. WITH THAT. THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
[WS1. Discuss Five Year Financial Plan.]
WE DO HAVE ONE WORK SESSION WHICH WE WILL MOVE INTO WORK. SESSION ONE IS DISCUSSING OUR FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN. I ASSUME THIS WILL BE MR. MISTER PARKER AND MISS BROWN. AFTER EIGHT STRAIGHT ITEMS I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE TALK ABOUT. COME BACK WITH OUR QUESTION FOR. HI.WELL, HE DID EIGHT IN A ROW. WE WANT TO GIVE HIM A SHOT AT THE FINANCE SIDE OF THINGS. LET'S DO
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IT. COME ON. HASKINS, HE'S HE'S RUNNING FASTER UP THE STAIRS NOW. NOTHING TO IT. LET'S SEE HERE.AND I'M NOT DOING A CIGAR. MR. HANSON, YOU'RE BACK I. OKAY. SO THE FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN IS TO ROLL CIGARS. LET'S DO IT. THAT'S AN INTERESTING CHANGE. YEAH, THIS IS GETTING LOCKED UP.
THERE WE GO. YEAH, THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN TO START OUR BUDGET PROCESS. WE'LL FOLLOW THE SAME FORMAT THAT WE DID LAST YEAR. THIS EVENING, WE'LL TALK ABOUT A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.
CAPITAL PROJECTS. AND THEN PROBABLY THE NEXT. I THINK IT'S THE NEXT FOUR MEETINGS. WE DO SOME DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS AND THEN WE SLOWLY GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACTUAL BUDGET PROCESS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME. THIS IS GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. FIRST WE'LL START WITH FOUR B WHICH.
I'M GOING TO PROBABLY EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I KNOW OUR TWO COUNCIL CANDIDATES ARE HERE THIS EVENING, SO I MAY SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME DOWN IN THE WEEDS THAN I WOULD NORMALLY, BUT SO FOUR B AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS FUNDED BY SALES TAX. AND OUR PORTION OF FOUR B SALES TAX FUNDS. PORTIONS OF PARKS AND REC. THIS SLIDE HERE IS THE REQUEST FOR FOUR B OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT FUNDED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS SIMPLY MOVED FORWARD TO 2026. SO YOU MAY SEE SEE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FUNDS, I'M NOT GOING TO GET DOWN INTO A LOT OF THESE SPECIFICS. I'M SURE CARMEN WILL, ONCE SHE DOES HER PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE FOUR B PERSONAL FUNDS. AND I'M SORRY, PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND CAPITAL REQUEST. YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ON THE BOTTOM, THE TOTAL BOND FUNDED REQUESTS. THAT VERY BOTTOM LINE IS ABOUT 17 MILLION. AND THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. A DEBT PAYMENT FOR THE 17 MILLION IS ROUGHLY 1.4 MILLION. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT PROJECTS. MOST RECENTLY THE LAKE PARKS THAT WE MAY BE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS. THESE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN IS BASED ON A 8% GROWTH IN SALES TAX, SERVICE FEE INCREASE OF 3%. AND THEN OUR STANDARD 4%
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INCREASE IN PERSONNEL EXPENSES, 5% INCREASE FOR MARKET ADJUSTMENTS, 3% INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES. THESE THESE HAVE NOT CHANGED. ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS. THIS WE ARE TYPICALLY VERY CONSERVATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ESTIMATING SALES TAX. I AM A LITTLE HESITANT TO RECOMMEND 8%, SO THAT MAY BE ADJUSTED. WE ARE REACHING A POINT WHERE. I THINK SALES TAX WILL BEGIN TO FLATTEN OUT SOME, SO WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND ADJUST THAT AS NECESSARY. ONE MORE THING TO NOTE IS LAST YEAR, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE DID TRANSFER 750,000 IN PERSONNEL FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO THE FOR BE. SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AS YOU WILL SEE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH THE FY 2526 BUDGET THERE. AND THEN Y'ALL CAN REVIEW THE OTHER FOUR YEARS. THE. I GUESS THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE OVER THE 25% IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE. AND NOW I WILL SAY THIS IS IF WE ISSUE THE 17 MILLION IN DEBT. THAT'S SO. YES SIR. GO AHEAD. SO KEEP THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT FUND BALANCE. AS YOU NOTICE IT GETS DOWN THERE TO FY 2930. AND THERE'S A NEGATIVE AMOUNT. AND THE EXCESS FUND BALANCE THERE ON THE BOTTOM LINE BECOMES A NEGATIVE AMOUNT IN 2728. NOW THAT IS IF WE ISSUED THE 17 MILLION IN DEBT. SO AND I WAS GOING TO SAY AND THAT ALL OF THIS IS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS ARE STILL PENDING, WHAT ACTUALLY GETS FINAL APPROVAL FROM.ABSOLUTELY. THESE ARE ALL REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING IN. BUT AS WE KNOW, WHAT'S RECOMMENDED AFTER DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO US WILL BE DIFFERENT. SO THAT WILL ALSO IMPACT. YES. WE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW NUMBER. YEAH. WE HADN'T EVEN STARTED STARTED ANY OF THAT. SO THAT'S FOR B FUND. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL. I WAS JUST GOING TO CLARIFY THE 1.4 MILLION DEBT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. AS FAR AS THE DEBT SERVICE. THAT'S ACTUALLY IF IT'S IF ALL 17 MILLION IS FUNDED AND THAT'S THE NUMBER ON THE 20, 2923. RIGHT. SO THIS NUMBER ON THE BOTTOM HERE, THE 320 IS WHAT IT IS NOW THE. YEAH. SO IF WE ISSUED THIS OVER THESE FIVE YEARS, THOSE NUMBERS IN THE VERY BOTTOM ROW, THAT'S WHAT THAT WOULD BE. JUST MAKING SURE I KNEW WHERE THAT WAS. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT CORBY OKAY. SO THE UTILITY FUND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WE, WE I GUESS IS RELATIVELY EASY SPEAKING. THIS IS OUR WATER AND SEWER RATES OR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENTS AND OUR WATER AND SEWER RATES PAY FOR THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS. THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE REQUESTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. NOT TOO MANY PERSONNEL REQUESTS, SOME EQUIPMENT. AND THIS DOES ASSUME THAT BASED ON THE STUDY THAT WE CAN COMPLETED IN 21 WAS THAT 21? 20 2020, THAT STUDY DID CALL FOR A 5% INCREASE IN WATER RATES AND A 5.5% INCREASE EACH YEAR IN SEWER RATES. THIS DOES PAY FOR, AS YOU'LL SEE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM TWO OR THE NEXT TO THE LAST TWO BULLETS THERE. THE BIG EXPANSION AT THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHERE ALL OF OUR SEWER GOES, THEY PROCESS ALL OF OUR SEWER. THEY'RE DOING AN EXPANSION. AND OUR PORTION OF THAT. WE PARTNER WITH MURPHY ON THAT, BUT OUR PORTION IS $102 MILLION. SO THE DEBT PAYMENT IS INCLUDED IN THAT, AS WELL AS THE WATER LINE REPLACEMENTS FOR DOGWOOD HILLTOP BRIER. WOULD WE DO STILL HAVE SOME CLAY PIPE
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WATER LINES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IDENTIFYING AND REPLACING? AND AGAIN, WHENEVER WE GET INTO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST HERE IN A MINUTE, THOSE THINGS ARE OUTLINED IN THERE. THE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ANOTHER RATE STUDY THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE WE ADOPT ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET. SO THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU TO HAVE YOUR INPUT SO THAT WE CAN CAN FINALIZE THAT. ONCE THAT STUDY IS COMPLETED. ONE THING TO NOTE IS THE THIS SLIDE HERE, THE SEWER FUND AND THE SEWER WATER UTILITY FUND IS A CAN SUPPORT A DEBT PAYMENT. SO AGAIN KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PROJECTS IDENTIFIED. IF WE WERE NEED TO ISSUE DEBT. THIS FUND IS DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT A DEBT PAYMENT. CLARIFY I ASSUME THAT STILL HAS TO FALL UNDER WHAT IS COVERED UNDER THE UTILITY FUND. OH YES. YEAH IT WOULD STILL IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WATER SEWER LINE. YES, SIR. OKAY. WE CAN'T JUST MAKE IT. WE CAN'T GO BUILD A PARK. YEAH, WELL WE CAN'T USE IT TO BUILD A ROAD OR WE CAN'T BUILD A ROAD. THAT'S CORRECT. SOME PEOPLE, IT'S STILL PUBLIC USE, BUT JUST MAKING SURE. ABSOLUTELY. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T GO USE IT FOR THAT. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON A COUNCIL WATER SEWER, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I WAS JUST GOING TO CHECK ON THE PERSONNEL REQUEST AS FAR AS WHY THEY TAPER OFF. OR ARE WE ARE WE MOVING THOSE REQUESTS OR DID I WAS THE THERE BUILT OUT. WE'RE JUST BUILT THE CITIES THE THOSE DEPARTMENTS OKAY. SO THOSE THAT STAFF WON'T BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE YEARS OR AM I MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT IT'S THOSE ARE JUST NEW. SO HE'S IN 28, 29, 30. THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S NO NEW ONES. GOTCHA.THOSE ARE INCREASES. NOT. THAT'S WHERE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. YEAH. ARE WE GETTING RID OF THEM OR ARE WE. NO, NO, THESE ARE JUST THOSE YEARS ARE THE RESPECTIVE YEARS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THOSE JUST INCREASES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OKAY. THANK YOU. EMPLOYEES. YES, SIR. GOOD POINT. THE NEXT IS THE GENERAL FUND WHICH. IS A MAJORITY OF THE. THAT'S HOW THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY IS FUNDED THROUGH PROPERTY TAX AND A PORTION THROUGH SALES TAX. SO WE TRIED TO PUT SOME COLORFUL PICTURES IN HERE. IT HELPS ME ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HELPS ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IT PAINTS A DIFFERENT PICTURE FOR ME SO THAT IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I'M NOT. NECESSARILY THE FINANCE DIRECTOR LIKE MELISSA. SO THIS SLIDE HERE BASICALLY, AGAIN, IT KIND OF GOES TO WHAT THE MAYOR HAD ASKED EARLIER ABOUT. AND I SENT YOU AN EMAIL ABOUT WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH OUR FUND BALANCE. THIS SLIDE JUST DEPICTS THAT OVERALL, ABOUT 2% WAS GIVEN BACK OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.
NOW, WE DO ACCOUNT FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD IN THE GENERAL FUND AS PART OF OUR, I GUESS, REVENUE, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT THIS JUST BREAKS DOWN KIND OF HOW MUCH WAS UNSPENT IN EACH IN EACH DEPARTMENT. WHICH IN A BUDGET THE SIZE OF OURS TO BE WITHIN 1 MILLION OR 2 IS PRETTY DADGUM GOOD. SO I THINK I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT'S LESS THAN 2%. YEAH, $1 MILLION SOUNDS LIKE A LOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL HOME BUDGET. BUT YEAH, WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN, YOU'RE WITHIN 2%. SO THIS THIS SLIDE HERE LOOKS AT OUR OUR TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUE BY TYPE AND TAX RATE. YOU KNOW OFTENTIMES I KNOW Y'ALL GET QUESTIONS. WE GET QUESTIONS AS WELL. YOU KNOW WE'RE PRIMARILY A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. AND THIS REALLY I THINK SHOWS THAT AS YOU WILL SEE EVEN THOUGH COMMERCIAL HAS GROWN IT'S STILL. HEAVILY RELIED UPON RESIDENTIAL. YOU CAN SEE THERE WITH THE LINE OUR TAX RATE FROM TEN YEARS AGO AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. RESIDENTIAL
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IN 2015. LET'S SEE HERE WAS ABOUT 75% AND TODAY IT'S ABOUT 78%. COMMERCIAL WAS ABOUT 17% IN 2015. AND TODAY IT'S ABOUT 14%. MULTI-FAMILY WAS ABOUT 3%, AND IT'S INCREASED TO 5.5. AND THEN INDUSTRIAL WAS ABOUT 5%. AND IT EQUATES TO ABOUT 2.5% TODAY. OOPS, SORRY. ONE THING WE'VE DONE, I GUESS THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS IS, IS TRY TO TRACK COMMERCIAL PROPERTY VALUE, WHICH IS THIS SLIDE HERE. THE BLUE IS THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE GREEN IS THE NEW. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED COMMERCIALS. CURRENTLY ABOUT 14% OF OUR TOTAL VALUE COMMERCIAL HAS GROWN FROM 2014 TO ABOUT 138%. BUT THE REVENUE HAS ONLY GROWN ABOUT 70%. THERE'S A LOT OF. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ANTICIPATION THAT COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO PROVIDE THIS BIG RELIEF. AND THAT'S JUST. IT'S JUST THE BALANCE OF OUR MIX UP OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT JUST DOESN'T FALL OUT THAT WAY. THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS THE GROWTH OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND FUNDS. OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC SAFETY HAS GROWN WITH THE ADDITION OF A FIRE STATION AND BRINGING ON THE EMS PROGRAM. THE IN 22 AND 23 THERE THAT TOP TURQUOISE COLOR, IF YOU WILL, GRAY. I DON'T KNOW I'M COLORBLIND SO YEP. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S ONE OF THE TWO.WE'LL CALL IT LIGHT BLUE TURQUOISE. THAT THAT IS THAT IS THE USE OF FUND FUNDS FOR ONE TIME EXPENSES. THIS IS THE AGAIN, THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. AND NONE OF THIS IS THESE ARE JUST THE REQUESTS THAT WERE PUT IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. WE HAVEN'T DOVE INTO THIS AT ALL, BUT THESE ARE JUST WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS FEEL THAT THEY ARE NEEDING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY OPERATE TODAY. BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR ON, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS HAD A QUESTION. I DIDN'T HAVE A YEAH, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION AS MUCH AS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING OR WATCHING OR LOOKING AT THE SLIDESHOW THAT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT SLIDE IS FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS ONLY. SO THE AMOUNT THAT SAYS STREETS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE BOND FUNDS. IS THAT CORRECT? SAY THAT AGAIN, LIKE THE STREETS INCLUDE THE BOND DEBT THAT WE HAVE ISSUED AND SPENT FOR ROADWAY PROJECTS. OH, THIS IS JUST OUR OPERATING COST. AND I KNOW IT'S I KNOW IT'S NOT. I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THOSE LISTENING, JUST SO THEY REALIZE IF SOMEONE LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, WHY DO WE ONLY SPEND THAT MUCH ON STREETS? WELL, WE DON'T, WE SPEND A LOT MORE. IT'S JUST THIS IS ONLY WHAT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS KIND OF SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE AND NOT NECESSARILY OR NOT THE FUND, DEBT FUND AND BONDS AND STUFF.
GOOD POINT. YEAH. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEBT SIDE OF THE TAX RATE. THIS IS ONLY THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT BECAUSE OF THE HOW LITTLE THAT STREETS LOOKS COMPARED TO EVERYTHING ELSE. JUST SO THEY DIDN'T GET THE WRONG IDEA. WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT, IT'D BE VERY DIFFERENT IF IT INCLUDED THE YEAH OUTPUT THAT WE'VE PLACED ON STREETS. THANK YOU. SURE THING. SO AGAIN THESE ARE JUST THE POSITIONS THAT THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. AND AS MENTIONED, WILL AS WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THE BUDGET AND GO DEEPER AND DEEPER. AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE ONCE WE START BUILDING OUR BUDGET. AGAIN. THESE ARE JUST SOME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL REQUESTS. ALL OF THIS IS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. YOU'LL NOTICE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE TOTAL TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PERSONNEL. AND AGAIN TO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS QUESTION EARLIER, THESE ARE NEW POSITIONS. SO AS YOU SEE IT
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TAPERS OFF THERE AT 2030 THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILT OUT. HERE'S ONE TIME EQUIPMENT PURCHASES VEHICLES. YOU KNOW THIS CONTINUES TO BE A BIG, BIG ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FUND BALANCE FOR. AND I'LL GET INTO SOME OTHER OPTIONS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT TO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. BUT THESE ARE THESE ARE JUST THE A SUMMARY OF THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE REQUESTED. MOVING FORWARD. SO CAN I ASK REAL QUICK. YES. THE FIRE INCLUDE REPLACEMENT IN THOSE NUMBERS OKAY. IT DOES. YES I KNOW THEY'RE BIG TICKETS. I WANTED TO SEE IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY PART OF THOSE NUMBERS. CORRECT. AND AMBULANCES. YEAH.WELL THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS THEY'RE NOT AS PRICEY. CORRECT. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. OH. HE'S ONE SLIDE. SORRY. I'M SLOW. YOU'RE GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM ON THE 2 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, 2026 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THE I SEE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. WE'VE GOT SIX. SO THAT'S SIX AT 57. NO IT'S. YES BUT IT'S THROUGHOUT THE FIVE YEARS. IT'S 11211211. WELL AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE MATH ADD UP. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE 2 MILLION AT THE BOTTOM. AND I KNOW IT'S COMING DOWN TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TWO. WELL IT INCLUDES THE SLIDE PRIOR. YEAH. OH THAT'S WHAT I WAS MISSING I SORRY, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT ONE AND GOING, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT MATH I'M MISSING SOMETHING. I'M JUST NOT LOOKING AT IT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THANK YOU. SURE THING. SO HERE'S THE SUMMARY SLIDE OF THE REQUESTS. THE BASE EXPENDITURES, THE TOTAL RECURRING REQUEST IS CLOSE TO 70 MILLION. AND THEN WITH THE EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 76 MILLION. AGAIN, THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE SAME AS THEY HAVE BEEN THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS. 4% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL EXPENSES, 5% MERIT OVER AVERAGE FOR GENERAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY MARKET ADJUSTMENTS, 3% INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE PULL OUT THE ONE TIME EXPENSES FROM FROM THE BASE BUDGET. SO WE START WITH THOSE EXPENSES REMOVED FROM THE BASE BUDGET. SO THIS SLIDE HERE IS. IS WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT. AS YOU'LL SEE HERE. EVERYTHING BELOW THAT LINE. WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S OUR CURRENT. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT LINE. IS NEW REQUESTS, NEW ONE TIME EXPENSES. AND THAT'S WHERE WE FALL SHORT. THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACED IS THAT OUR RECURRING EXPENSES EXPENSES HAVE INCREASED YEAR OVER YEAR. WHEN OUR ONE TIME. OR OUR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES HAVE DECREASED. SO IT'S MORE OUR PERSONNEL COSTS CONTINUE TO INCREASE. THIS REVENUE LINE IS BASED ON THE ADOPTION OF THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THROUGH FY 26 TO 30. WHICH TO REMIND EVERYONE, IS A HARD CAP SET BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH, YES, SIR, TO GO ANY BIT ABOVE THAT REQUIRES TAKING IT TO A VOTE THAT CURRENTLY REQUIRES MAJORITY. BUT THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO MAKE THAT A HIGHER THRESHOLD IN SESSION. AGAIN, CORRECT. BY LAW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS ONLY ALLOWED TO GROW THEIR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION BUDGET BY 3.5%, WHICH IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. NOW,
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ONE OPTION, AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, ONE OPTION I WANTED TO DISCUSS AND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY APPETITE FROM COUNCIL IS WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT OPERATIONAL EXPENSE, WHICH COULD BE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES, RADIOS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, HIGH DOLLAR ITEMS THAT WE TYPICALLY BUDGET ANNUALLY, A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR AND DO A ROTATING OR A ROTATION. WE COULD PULL THOSE ITEMS OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET AND ISSUE DEBT FOR THOSE AND FINANCE THEM. BUT THAT MEANS THAT YOU WOULD INCREASE THE DEBT SIDE OF THE TAX RATE, BUT THAT WOULD FREE UP MONEY ON THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE OF THE TAX RATE. SO THAT IS ONE OPTION THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT.BUT BEFORE WE DIVE TOO FAR INTO IT, WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR. ATTENTION TO SEE IF Y'ALL HAD ANY APPETITE FOR DOING THAT. WE DON'T KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FREE UP IN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE OF THE BUDGET. WE HAVEN'T PULLED THOSE ITEMS OUT OF THAT TO SEE WHAT THAT TOTAL ANNUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD BE. SO WE'RE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE. JUST TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT WAYS OF BUDGETING TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK. THE BEST WE CAN. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. AND THEN I'LL LET YOU FINISH BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ONE SLIDE AWAY AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION. WHAT I'D LIKE FOR IT TO THE REVENUE. I'M SORRY, I SAID I'D LIKE FOR IT JUST TO BE A DISCUSSION. THE REVENUE LINE THAT'S HERE, DOES THAT ASSUME ANY GROWTH, I SHOULD SAY ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, $1 MILLION A YEAR. AND THAT IN REVENUE? IN REVENUE, YEAH. DO YOU DO WE FORESEE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE HIGH DOLLAR PROJECTS LIKE LADERA AND POTENTIALLY I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED THIS EVENING. WHAT WHAT IS KIND OF THE RATIO THERE. HOW WHAT DOES IT TAKE IN. AND I KNOW IT CHANGES FROM YEAR TO YEAR WITH THE TAX RATE. BUT IN GENERAL, WHAT AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT DOES IT TAKE TO GENERATE $1 MILLION? 200 MILLION OVER 200. YEAH, SOMEWHERE ABOUT 200 MILLION GENERATES A MILLION IN NEW PROPERTY TAX. OKAY. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO NAIL YOU TO AN EXACT NUMBER, JUST BALLPARK. SO WE AT LEAST I UNDERSTAND. AND THE COLLEAGUES KNOW FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.
OBVIOUSLY WE DO NOT LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ACTIVELY UNDER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE UNTIL AND I'M NOT GOING TO I HATE TO THROW TACO CASA UNDER THE BUS, BUT TACO CASA WAS APPROVED PROBABLY 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, AND WE WENT SO LONG THAT THEY HAD TO RESUBMIT AND THEY STILL HADN'T DONE ANYTHING. SO FOR US TO GO, OH, WE'RE GETTING A TACO CASA IN X NUMBER OF MONTHS IS JUST NOT REALISTIC. SO WE DO NOT CONSIDER ANYTHING UNLESS. IT HAS A CO. I MEAN YEAH. AND I MEAN SO THAT'S AND IT'S JUST LIKE LADERA OR THE PROJECT TONIGHT. YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FAA TO GET TOWERS REMOVED. AND IT COULD BE IT COULD BE 2 OR 3 YEARS BEFORE WE SEE ALL THAT COME TO FRUITION. SO THAT'S JUST OUR APPROACH UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE IT HAPPENING. QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT. DOES THAT REVENUE LINE INCLUDE BOTH PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX ASSUMPTIONS? THE SALES TAX THAT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND, THAT'S JUST PROPERTY TAX. NO. THAT INCLUDES THAT'S ALL OF OUR. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. SO THAT INCLUDES BOTH BUCKETS THERE OKAY. AND THAT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY TAX. SALES TAX. THAT'S GOING TO BE FEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WHAT EMS. PROVIDES WHAT WE GET ALL IN ANY CONTRACT. YEAH IT'S THAT'S ALL OF OUR REVENUE OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS BEEN WAITING. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK SO
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THAT I'M INTERPRETING IT CORRECTLY, THE DIFFERENCE ON THE PERSONNEL EXPENSE VERSUS NEW PERSONNEL REQUEST CUMULATIVE, BECAUSE I NOTICED THE PERSONNEL IS CLIMBING AND THEN THERE'S THE CUMULATIVE. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY TIE TOGETHER. IF IT'S IF WE'VE GOT A PERSONNEL CUMULATIVE THAT'S JUST THE NEW PERSONNEL REQUEST CUMULATIVE IS ALL PERSONNEL REQUEST. SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PERSONNEL REQUESTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR. PERSONNEL LIKE IN THE SO THE BABY THE. YEAH THE DARKER BLUE AT THE BOTTOM WE'VE GOT THAT'S CURRENT PERSONNEL EXPENSES. IT'S GROWING BECAUSE OF THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 4% FOR MERIT AND HEALTH CARE, AND THEN THE 5% MARKET ADJUSTMENT EVERY. AND THEN ANYBODY WE HIRE THAT'S NOT ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, THAT'S JUST TO COVER WHO WE HAVE. YEAH.THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HIRE WE HIRE ARE IN THE TURQUOISE. RIGHT. THOSE ARE THE NEW PERSONNEL UP TOP. SO YES. YES. SO THE BLUE ON THE BOTTOM IS JUST THE INCREASED COST ON THE EXISTING PERSONNEL.
YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY. THAT HELPS. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY.
MAKING ME DOUBT MYSELF UP HERE. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK AROUND 28 OR 29 WHENEVER WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT FALLS OFF TO ME, THIS, THIS GRAPH AGAIN, I KIND OF LIKE PICTURES PAINTED A DIFFERENT PICTURE FOR ME THAN I WAS USED TO SEEING. AND I FINALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND THINGS A LITTLE BIT CLEARER NOW, AS YOU WILL SEE THERE IN 2728, YOU'LL SEE THE DEBT GROWS. THAT'S THE ISSUANCE OF THE 21 BOND THAT WE WILL HAVE TO ISSUE THE REST OF THAT DEBT. I ASSUME THAT'S MACMILLAN PARK. PARK? YES, SIR. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE SHARP DECLINE THERE. SO. THE PROPERTY VALUES, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY INCREASE. BUT WE WILL SEE A ABOUT A98 CENT DECREASE ON THE DEBT SIDE OF THE TAX RATE. FROM INS IN 2029, 2030. YOU'LL SEE THERE THAT THE TAX RATE STAYS PRETTY STEADY, WHICH IS THE GREEN. THE GREEN PIECE. SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT TOPIC WHICH IS FUTURE PROJECTS. I THINK I GAVE RENE SOME HANDOUTS. TO GIVE ONE TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S GOING TO LIKE. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND. EACH DEPARTMENT HAS DEVELOPED A LIST, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE LIST THIS EVENING. THIS IS FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD.
THE FRONT PAGE HERE IS. CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SUPPORTED THROUGH PROPERTY TAX. AND THESE ARE JUST. WELL I SHOULDN'T SAY. OH YEAH THEY ARE. AND THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES.
BUT THESE ARE TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN COUNCIL. ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN FUND THINGS IS TO ISSUE DEBT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED. DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED ON HERE, SUCH AS RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION TWO, FIRE STATION FIVE, ANIMAL SHELTER. I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT I DIDN'T SEE ANY. YEAH. THERE'S NO DOLLAR AMOUNTS ON HERE. THE MAIN DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE MORE THE STREET PROJECTS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. DOWNTOWN. SOME OF
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THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. SO THAT GIVES YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT STAFF IS THINKING. THE SECOND PAGE IS, IS WATER AND WASTEWATER, WHICH AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'LL BE INCLUDED IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER STUDY. AND THEN THE LAST PAGE IS. FOR BE. WHICH THOSE ITEMS ARE LISTED EARLIER. SO IF YOU COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE HERE. I DON'T REMEMBER.REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT IS IF WE DIDN'T LOWER THE TAX RATE. IT'S ABOUT 80. 80 SOMETHING MILLION.
I CAN PULL UP THAT EMAIL REAL QUICK. YEAH, SHE'S ALREADY GOT IT. IF YOU DECIDE TO DO A BOND, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT IT IS, WHETHER IT'S THESE ITEMS HERE OR A VARIATION OR SOMETHING THAT'S DECIDED ON. NOT DROPPING THE TAX RATE BY THE APPROXIMATE $0.08. YOU COULD ISSUE ABOUT $81 MILLION IN IN NEW BONDS, AND YOU WOULD KEEP. AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE, I'LL POINT OUT, WITHOUT RAISING IT FROM WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY. EITHER YOU KEEP THE INS TAX RATE ABOUT THE SAME. SO I ASSUME YOU'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED. THIS LAST PIECE HERE IS MORE. OBVIOUSLY, IF COUNCIL DESIRES WE'D HAVE TO DO A BOND ELECTION AND. DO THAT PROCESS. WHETHER WE DO A WORKING GROUP OR A BOND COMMITTEE OF SOME SORT AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING DOING THAT NEXT YEAR, BUT THIS IS JUST I WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THIS EVENING AS WE MAKE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. REALIZING WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE NO SIDE AND THE DEBT SIDE, AND JUST ALL THE BIG PROJECTS THAT THAT WE DO HAVE COMING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S THE LAKE, PARKS OR DOWNTOWN STREETS AND DRAINAGE OR OTHER STREETS THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE. I MEAN, IT'S I HAVE A FEELING THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A THE EAST SIDE, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE OLDER SIDE OF WILY AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S TIME TO START, WHICH WE ARE WITH DOGWOOD AND WOOD HOLLOW. AND THOSE WATER LINES, THE STREETS ON THAT SIDE AS WELL. AND THEN ABOUT THAT ■TIME, I MEAN EVERYTHING. A LOT OF THIS SIDE OF TOWN IS REACHING 20 YEARS OLD. SO BY THE TIME WE GET DONE THERE, WE'LL HAVE TO SWAP OVER HERE. I WILL NOT BE HERE WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THAT PIECE, BUT I WISH THE NEXT GUY OR THE NEXT LADY WISH THEM ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST DECISION OR DIRECTION TONIGHT IS IF YOU WANT TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT ISSUING DEBT FOR EQUIPMENT, OR IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO ENTERTAIN IT, I'M. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, BIGGEST DIRECTION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. SO CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA BALLPARK ON WHAT WE THINK THE FIRE STATION RELOCATION AT LEAST THAT BOTH THE TWO RELOCATIONS WOULD RUN STATION TWO. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS APPROACHING, IF NOT CLOSE TO BEING OUT OF ROOM IN THE CURRENT BUILDING. SO IF WE WERE TO RELOCATE STATION TWO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO MOVE THE ADMIN. MOVE FIRE ADMIN OVER HERE. POSSIBLY DISPATCH THAT AWAY. WE'D. KIND OF HAVE A BACKUP DISPATCH ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN AND DISPATCH ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN. AND SO WE'RE NOT SPLITTING UP DEPARTMENTS. THE TRAINING FIELD WHICH THE NEW TOWER IS, IS MOVABLE, BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME EXPENSE THERE. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY STATION TWO IS, WHAT, 40 MILLION? YEAH. SO PROBABLY 40 MILLION FOR THAT TO MOVE STATION ONE IS PROBABLY, WHAT, 2015? SOMEWHERE AROUND
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THERE. AND DO WE HAVE AN IDEA ANYWHERE OF WHAT AN ANIMAL SHELTER COSTS? 1015 JUST CALL IT 1515. WE'LL HAVE TO BUY A PROPERTY. THAT'S SAFE. OKAY. DOWNTOWN YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 30 MILLION 2530. I'D SAY IT HAS 14. I ASSUMED IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO PROBABLY 30.ONCE YOU GET PAST PHASE ONE TO PHASE TWO. OKAY. WELL, THAT HELPS TO JUST KIND OF I JUST I DIDN'T WANT TO COMPLETELY I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF TRYING TO SELECT WHAT WE WANT. OH SURE. YEAH. IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DEBT THAT'S SUPPORTABLE, WHAT SOME OF THE REQUESTS ARE. AND I KNOW WE'LL HAVE AS A COUNCIL AND WITH YOU ALL AS STAFF, SOME DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT WE'LL CALL IT, RANKINGS. I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT EVERYTHING ISN'T IMPORTANT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, WITHOUT THOSE, WE STILL CAN'T COVER EVERYTHING ON THERE WITH THE EXISTING DEBT THAT FALLS OFF WITHOUT THOSE MENTIONED. SO WITH REGARDS TO THE OPERATIONS SIDE, I'LL SAY ONE THING. SURE. OF COURSE, TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU'D PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT DOING A BOND ELECTION. AND IF COUNCIL'S DESIRE. PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER OF 26, CONSIDERING HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO PLAN AND ENGINEER, IT TAKES ALL THAT TIME AND THEN THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO ISSUE THE DEBT IMMEDIATELY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT KIND OF LIKE MCMILLAN. WE THE BOND WENT OUT IN 21 AND WE DIDN'T START TILL 24 BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TAKES.
SURE. BEFORE I GO ON, COUNCILMAN STRANG HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT. YES. YEAH. BEFORE WE KIND OF START TALKING TOO DEEPLY ABOUT DEBT, WHAT KIND OF INTEREST RATES DO WE EXPECT? LIKE A ROUGH RANGE, INTEREST RATES, INTEREST RATES RIGHT NOW OR WHAT? 4% UP FOUR. OKAY. CAN I ADD SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEBT? SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEBT, JUST OBVIOUSLY THE LARGER PROJECTS, ANY BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE A NORMAL 20 YEAR BOND THAT WE WOULD ISSUE. BUT THE DEBT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ISSUE FOR THE EQUIPMENT, WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEBT. AND IT MAY STILL BE BONDED DEBT, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE 20 YEAR DEBT.
AND THAT THAT THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE THAT WHEN I SAID I HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION BEFORE, I GAVE MY OPINION THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION WAS, ARE THERE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS? I DON'T OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON 20 YEARS THAT HAS A 5 OR 10 YEAR LIFESPAN. AT LEAST I DON'T. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH DEBT CARRIES.
RIGHT. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TO FINANCE WOULD BE AT LEAST A TEN YEAR LIFE. BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEBT OPTIONS. SO WE'RE TALKING THAT UP TO TEN YEARS WOULD POSSIBLY EVEN SHORTER FOR EQUIPMENT. YEAH YOU COULD DO IT SHORTER. YES. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT AN EIGHT YEAR LOAN ON OUR NISSAN ALTIMA THAT'S GOT 300,000 MILES. WE DO NOT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT THAT IS ONE THING. AND I SHARE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY. IT SOUNDS LIKE I DON'T WANT TO ISSUE A TEN YEAR BOND ON A LAPTOP COMPUTER. I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A QUINT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, WE FUNDED OUT OF FUND BALANCE A QUINT, POSSIBLY AN AMBULANCE, RADIOS. WE DO A RADIO REFRESH EVERY 7 TO 10 YEARS. WE DO IT EVERY YEAR. YEAH, BUT FOR 17 YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THAT MONEY BEING ALLOCATED EVERY YEAR, WE COULD DO IT ALL AT ONCE. SO THOSE ARE JUST OPTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE RIGHT OPTION. IT'S JUST AN OPTION. WELL, WHAT I WOULD I'LL BE BRIEF BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER WANTS TO GO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY, MISS BROWN AND MR. PARKER. THINGS LIKE QUINCE RADIOS, THINGS THAT LAST LONG FOR THAT TERM. IF WE HAVE SOME SHORTER TERM OPTIONS, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY. IT DOESN'T HURT TO LOOK AND TO FIND OUT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE CONSTRAINTS ON, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE, THE GRAPHS ARE THERE. AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE CAN'T, WE WON'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO OR GET RECOMMENDED EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S LISTED UNDER EACH YEAR. THE GOAL LONG TERM IS TO REACH THOSE NUMBERS ON BUILD OUT, AND HOPEFULLY NOT IN 20 YEARS. AND SO I THINK IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS SPECIFICALLY, AND WE TRY TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL BECAUSE IT MAY HELP US BE ABLE TO BETTER BUDGET THE OPERATIONS OVER TIME AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM FOR. ADDING NEW, ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT ONE'S
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GOING TO BE TEN YEARS AND IT'S BEEN REQUESTED WITHIN THREE, MAYBE IT MOVES IT TO 4 OR 5. IT MAY BE IT WON'T BE PERFECT, BUT IT MIGHT OPEN THE DOOR FOR THAT AND ENSURING THAT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT LIKE SQUAD CARS THAT WE GO THROUGH ON A QUICKER BASIS, SO TO SPEAK, DON'T GET PUSHED SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD, OR WE'RE ASKING THE DEPARTMENT TO GO OUT WITH A TEN YEAR AND NOW IT'S 20 YEARS OLD AND IT'S STILL FRONT LINE BECAUSE WE CAN'T SCRAPE THE MONEY. YOU KNOW, JUST THE FLEXIBILITY IS GOOD. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY ON NOT DOING SMALL LAPTOPS OR QUICK TURNAROUND THINGS. SO COUNCILMAN MALIKI. YEAH. THANKS, MAYOR. FIRST, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS EARLY ON AND STARTING THIS WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE I THINK IT HELPS KIND OF TOGETHER FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO GET MOVING FORWARD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE THAT AS WE GO THE OPERATION SIDE BY 2030, WE'RE KIND OF NUMBERS WISE. ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE THEIR FULL STAFFS ALMOST MAYBE 1 OR 2 A YEAR IN MOST OF THE POINT, BUT MOST OF THE DEBT THAT'S COMING IN, OR MOST OF THE EXPENSES THAT ARE COMING IN FROM MOVING FORWARD, IS GOING TO BE REPLACEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT AND REPLACING OF THE QUINTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE. SO I DO LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY PART OF IT. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT PART IN SHORT TERM. I DO AGREE THAT 20 YEARS ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISPOSE SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S NOT MAKE SENSE. BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT. I THINK WE HAVE SOME BIG PROJECTS COMING UP. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN, AND I DON'T JUST LOOK AT IT DOWNTOWN PERSONALLY, FOR MYSELF, I LOOK AT IT AS DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN AND SOUTH BALLARD OVERLAY AS WELL. IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO DEVELOP THAT PART WITH WHAT WE APPROVED TONIGHT WITH THE CIGAR SHOP, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A WALK IN TYPE OF SITUATION, FIGURING OUT, ESPECIALLY WITH COOPERS PLAZA COMING IN ON BOARD HERE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. WE NEED TO THINK A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THIS CITY FOR 20, 25 YEARS FROM NOW AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO BRING IN MORE SALES TAX AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE MORE INCOME FOR THE CITY, AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR REVENUE AND VERSUS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN ON DEBT. SO I DO LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY PART OF IT. I THINK WE NEED TO SET UP A STRATEGY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE BONDS, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRATEGY, NOT JUST IN THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS, BUT I THINK A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME AND THE NUMBERS WE CAN'T BE SCARED OF, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M HERE TO IMPROVE EVERY CITIZEN'S LIFE, INCLUDING MINE AND MY FAMILY'S, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THIS AND WE SPEND EVERY DAY IN HERE. AND SO FROM OUR EMPLOYEE STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LIVES IS BETTER EVERY DAY. AND THEY ARE THERE TO SERVICE OUR OUR CITIZENS, AS WELL AS HOW OUR CITIZENS ARE HAPPY TO SPEND THEIR TIME INSTEAD OF GOING TO OTHER CITIES AND SPENDING THEIR MONEY. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BIGGER STANDPOINT AND SEE HOW THAT FITS INTO WITHIN A BUDGET THAT THE CITY IS NOT. YOU KNOW, THEIR TAX DOLLARS IS NOT GOING HIGH. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE ALSO CAUTIOUS OF THE ECONOMY ON TODAY'S WORLD. BASED ON YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN ONE OF YOUR SLIDES, YOU SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPRAISED VALUES ARE GOING TO COME. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS YEAR THAN IT HAS BEEN IN PAST THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS. AND I KNOW WE SAY THAT EVERY YEAR. WE SAID THAT LAST YEAR AND THEY CAME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. BUT I THINK FROM A STANDPOINT OF HOW THE ECONOMY AND THE INTEREST RATE IS GOING RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. YOUR FINANCE TEAM HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT, INCLUDING YOU, ABOUT WHAT WE THOUGHT IS COMING VERSUS WHAT WE THOUGHT. SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO GO TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT WHAT I'M PROJECTING. I'D RATHER COME UNDER THEN GO OVER. AND SO BUT WE NEED AS A COUNCIL, TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM AND OUR CITIZENS, I THINK IT'S TOO LATE 2026 TO DO THE BOND TEAM TOWARDS NOVEMBER.I THINK WE START EARLY 2026, START PLANNING, START HAVING BIGGER THOUGHTS AND BIGGER IDEAS. THE MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM PEOPLE, MULTIPLE TOWN HALLS. AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GET TO THE FINAL PROJECT THAT I THINK WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT. OVERALL. THAT'S KIND OF MY THOUGHTS AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING THIS IN. I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH DEPARTMENTS, WE'LL GO THROUGH WHAT THEIR REQUESTS ARE. YES, IT'S CONCERNING THIS LINE, BUT I THINK LIKE EVERY YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND THIS IS GOING INTO MY THIRD YEAR, WE'VE ALWAYS FOUND A WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WHAT'S THE BEST CASE FOR ALL OUR EMPLOYEES IS AND INCLUDING WHAT OUR CITIZENS WERE HERE TO, TO SERVE. SO THANK YOU. MR. I'LL JUST ADD, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO USE THE UTILITY FUND TO PAY FOR THE UTILITY PROJECTS. THERE'S STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE FOR AS FAR AS DEBT, YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE'D BE LOOKING AT. THAT'S MY FEEDBACK THERE. WE'VE GOT PROJECTS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. THAT'S WHAT THE UTILITY FUND IS THERE FOR. OUT OF ALL THE FUNDS. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A RATE STUDY. THAT ONE IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE HEALTHIEST BALANCE AND PROJECTION. SO I THINK THE EXPENSES FOR, YOU KNOW, REPLACING SOME OF THAT AGING
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INFRASTRUCTURE SHOULD BE PLACED UNDER THERE. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING A 20 OR 30 YEAR BOND ON PROJECTS THAT ARE WATER AND SEWER. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THAT LIFE, BUT THEY TEND TO LAST 20, 30 YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS. AND I THINK THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, THAT AS WE EXPLORE THAT MAKES SENSE. YES, SIR. COLLEAGUES, WE'VE WE YOU'VE KIND OF HEARD EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE OPEN. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANY SPECIFIC CONCERNS AT A HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT WAS SAID OR DISAGREEMENT ON EXPLORING THE USE OF POTENTIAL BOND FUNDS FOR THINGS LIKE QUINTS OR OTHER LARGE ITEMS? COUNCILMAN STRANG THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO EXPLORE OPTIONS. WE HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO FACE HERE.LIKE I SAID LAST YEAR, WE'VE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIRT AND ACREAGE THAT WE JUST CAN'T TAX, AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT. SO I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS YOU ALL COME UP WITH. THANK YOU. OKAY. I SAW YOU LEAN FORWARD. SO COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, JUST ON A HIGH LEVEL, SAME CONCERNS YOU ALL EXPRESSED IN THE SENSE OF ISSUING DEBT ON SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DEPRECIATE. WE'RE GOING TO GET UPSIDE DOWN. AND SO IT'S I KNOW IT'S A TRAP THAT MIGHT BE EASY TO GET INTO ON THE FRONT SIDE. SO JUST TRYING TO BALANCE THAT. NOTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVEN'T ALREADY SAID I KNOW Y'ALL AREN'T MINDFUL. Y'ALL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB EVERY YEAR, COMING UP WITH WAYS TO TRY TO WORK AND NAVIGATE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KEEP THE BILLS PAID AND KEEP EVERYTHING HAPPENING AS ECONOMICALLY AS AS POSSIBLE. SO OKAY. THANK YOU.
PERFECT. OKAY. WELL, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE QUEUED UP. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH EXPLORING IT WITH THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT FORTH BOTH. AND I'M ASSUMING EVERYONE'S GOOD WITH THE UTILITY STUFF AS WELL. SO IS THAT THE MUSIC THAT CUZ YOU OFF STAGE AT THE OSCARS OR I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER THAT EVENT IS. SO THE PLAN WILL BE THE NEXT FOUR MEETINGS YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE BIG DEPARTMENTS. I'VE GIVEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THE OPTION TO PRESENT IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT A PRIORITY FOR THEM THAT THEY WOULD GET IN FRONT OF YOU. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY SOMETIME IN APRIL WE GET THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS. SO IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST MEETING OF MAY BEFORE WE'RE REALLY BACK IN FRONT OF YOU WITH SOME MORE DETAILED INFORMATION. OKAY. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER, MAKE A COMMENT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WHY I THINK OUR SERVICE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. WE HAD THE BIG WINS LAST WEEK, AND ONE OF THE HOUSES, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, THE HOUSE, LOST POWER AND THEY HAD THEIR MOM IN OXYGEN. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE STATION, ONE THERE EVERY FOUR HOURS WITH THE GENERATOR THAT THEY BROUGHT, PUT GAS ON THERE FOR 48 HOURS UNTIL THE POWER CAME BACK. THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT WE EMPLOY HERE, AND THIS IS WHY WE FIND THE REASON TO WORK TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR CITIZENS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF. I DON'T KNOW MANY CITIES THAT GO THROUGH THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK TOGETHER WE'LL FIND A WAY, A SOLUTION TO GET THIS BUDGET DONE. WELL, I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION TO ADD TO THAT. I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEES. OBVIOUSLY, WE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE
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ANYTHING ELSE DOESN'T APPEAR SO WITH THAT, GO AHEAD AND MOVE US OUT OF OUR WORK SESSION BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. MISS STORM, DO WE HAVE[READING OF ORDINANCES]
ANY ORDINANCES TO READ? YES, MAYOR. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2020 509, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED PROPERTY ZONING CASE NUMBER 2024, DASH 12 FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2022. DASH OH SIX, PD 22-06 TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT, CC, NCC, SUPP. EN 5.43 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT USE AND COMMERCIAL USES, PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025. DASH TEN AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ZONING CASE NUMBER 2024, DASH 15 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LEE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT LISP ON 1.2 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. MAJOR USE PROVIDING FOR PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING IN A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025. DASH 11 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS,[01:35:04]
AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF WYLIE, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE HEREINAFTER DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ZONING CASE NUMBER 2024, DASH 14, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AG 30 TO SINGLE FAMILY TEN DISTRICT SF 1024 ON 59.755 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDING FOR A PENALTY FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT. PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THAT IS ALL. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCILMAN STRANG, MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN? SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.