[CALL TO ORDER]
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          THIS IS MY BROTHER TO TELL YOU THIS STORY. MATTERS. FOR. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 25TH, 2025 WE DO ASK IF YOU WERE HERE THIS EVENING AND HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU. IF YOU WILL, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EITHER SET TO VIBRATE OR TURNED OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE, WE ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES, MAYOR. 
          MAYOR. MATTHEW PORTER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVID R DUKE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG. 
          PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM JEFF FORRESTER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. PRESENT. 
          COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN GINO MILICI. PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR OUR INVOCATION TO BE LED BY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE BY COUNCILMAN HOOVER. PRAY WITH ME, IF YOU WOULD. 
          FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE ABILITY TO COME TOGETHER. THE FREEDOMS THAT OTHERS HAVE SACRIFICED SO THAT WE COULD MEET, REFLECT, ASK FOR WISDOM, DISCERNMENT, ALL THESE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY. LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE OVERSEAS. THOSE ARE THAT ARE WITHIN OUR COUNTRY, THAT YOU PROTECT THEM, GUIDE THEM, AND HELP THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM. GOD, I WANT TO LIFT UP ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITIZENS THAT SERVE OUR OUR CITY. GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEND US AND THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE US. HELP US TO SERVE OTHERS WELL AND HELP US. HELP US TO LOVE OTHERS WELL. 
          LORD, WE ASK AGAIN FOR DISCERNMENT AS WE MAKE DECISIONS TODAY THAT AFFECT THE ENTIRE CITY. WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US TO SET OUR SELF-INTERESTS ASIDE, AND HELP US TO THINK OF THE BETTERMENT OF THE ENTIRE CITY AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT EVERYBODY. WE ASK ALL THIS. I ASK ALL THIS IN JESUS CHRIST, MIGHTY NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE BE SEATED. 
          SO THIS EVENING WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS IN RECOGNITION, SO WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT TO COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE DO ASK MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO HAVE FILLED OUT A FORM PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. COUNCIL DOES REQUEST THAT THOSE COMMENTS BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR SIX FOR A GROUP. 
          IN ADDITION, WE REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE COUNCIL CANNOT CONVERSE, DELIBERATE, OR TAKE ACTION ON ANY MATTER PRESENTED DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION UNDER. WHILE FOLLOWING THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MISS STORM, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY FORMS TURNED IN FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO WITH NO FORMS TURNED IN TO SPEAK ON 
          [CONSENT AGENDA]
NON-AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCIL STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATION? AND IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I'LL SECOND IT. HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 
          [1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning  from Agricultural District (AG/30) to Single-Family - 10 District (SF 10/24) on 59.755 acres to allow for a  single-family detached development. Property generally located at 1755 FM 1378 and 1813 & 2241  McMillen Road (ZC 2024-14).]
THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. 
          ITEM NUMBER ONE IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AG 30 TO SINGLE FAMILY TEN, DISTRICT SF 1024 ON 59.755 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT 1755 FM 1378 AND 1813, AND 2241 MCMILLAN ROAD. ZONING CASE 20 2414. MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SCHAUBERG. THE DEVELOPER HAS A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, RELATIVELY SHORT PRESENTATION. THEY'D LIKE TO GIVE. SO I'M GOING TO LET THEM GIVE ALL THE 
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DETAILS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. AND JUST POINT OUT THAT THAT WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT P AND Z CITIZENS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE WITH THE TWO BIG ONES THAT CAME UP. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, P AND Z DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 3 TO 1. SO WITH THAT, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO THE DEVELOPER FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. CITY. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS BRIAN HOLLAND WITH SCHAUBERGER DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, WITH OFFICES AT 8214 WESTCHESTER DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CALLING COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES. BEFORE I START, I'D LIKE TO JUST MAKE A QUICK APOLOGY TO THE CITIZENS. WE SENT OUT A NOTICE LAST WEEK BEFORE THE HOLIDAY, BEFORE THE PRESIDENT'S DAY HOLIDAY, AND IT GOT STUCK UP IN THE MAIL IN ABOUT HALF THE FOLKS WE SENT IT TO GOT IT. WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND IT WAS ATTENDED BY 10 TO 12 FAMILIES, BUT SOME OTHERS DIDN'T GET IT. AND SO WE DID HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON. SO ANYWAY, JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU HEAR THAT FROM SOMEONE ELSE. IT'S WE ATTEMPTED BUT DID NOT HIT EVERYBODY THAT WE COULD. SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT THE REALLY WANT TO GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US AS A SCOREBOARD COMPANY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, OUR ZONING REQUEST SHOW YOU WHO WE'RE TALKING TO FOR HOME BUILDERS AND THEN ADDRESS ADJACENT NEIGHBORS CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PNC AND GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS. THE SCOREBOARD COMPANY, WE'RE A LOCAL, PRIVATELY OWNED, SINGLE FAMILY LOT DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, DONE OVER 120 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ACROSS 33 TO 35 DIFFERENT DFW METRO AREA AREA CITIES. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT 25 CURRENTLY ACTIVE PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BUILDING LONG LASTING, HIGH QUALITY COMMUNITIES FROM SMALL INFILL SITES LIKE THIS ONE TO LARGER MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES SUCH AS AN ANNA AND ROCKWALL AND SOME OF THE SOME OF YOUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT IS AT THE INTERSECTION, BASICALLY THE SOUTH OR THE NORTH WEST INTERSECTION OF MCMILLAN AND COUNTRY CLUB. MRS. BUCZEK OWNS A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BALANCE IS OWNED BY THE CRAWFORD FAMILY. MR. CRAWFORD, IT HAS THE CELL PHONE TOWERS ON IT. IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. THE SITE AGAIN IS 59.755 ACRES, JUST UNDER 60 ACRES. AND AGAIN AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COUNTRY CLUB AND MCMILLAN ROAD. 
          TONIGHT WE'RE JUST BRINGING A STRAIGHT SF 1024 STRAIGHT ZONED REQUEST TO YOU. AND WE'LL BE DEVELOPED. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES. IT WILL BE DEVELOPED FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SF 1024 ZONING DISTRICT. MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LOTS IS 181. WE'VE DONE JUST A CONCEPTUAL ZONING CONCEPT PLAN TO SEE WHAT WE COULD, HOW WE COULD LOT IT OUT IN REALITY. AND AS I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT, IT WILL PROBABLY END UP AT ABOUT 176 TO 173 LOTS. WE HAVEN'T GOT IN AND DONE OUR FULL DETAILED ENGINEERING. OR, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME FLOOD STUDIES, SOME DRAINAGE STUDIES TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT OUR DETENTION LOOKS LIKE. AND SO WE JUST BUT WE HAVE DONE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING TO THIS POINT TO SHOW THE STAFF AND TALK TO THEM. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP SOMEWHERE AROUND 173 LOTS. 
          THIS IS A HANDFUL OF THE BUILDERS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THIS IS A SLIDE FROM OUR PNC. SINCE THIS TIME WE'VE PRETTY MUCH LANDED ON AT LEAST THE BUILDERS ARE WANTING TO CONTRACT WITH, AND WHICH IS K HOVNANIAN HOMES. WINDSOR HOMES IS OUR HOME BUILDING COMPANY. OUR INTERNAL HOME BUILDING COMPANY IS ALSO BUILT IN. WHILE IN THE PAST. AND THEN OUR THIRD BUILDER WE'RE TALKING TO RIGHT NOW AND LOOKING TO GO TO CONTRACT ON IS DAVID WEEKLEY HOMES. SO LINEUP WOULD BE DAVID WEEKLEY, KAY HOFF AND THEN OURSELVES AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THEN RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTED HOME SQUARE FOOT RANGES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THIS IS AFTER TALKING TO OUR HOME BUILDERS, LOOKING AT THE MARKET IS A SQUARE FOOT RANGE OF ABOUT 2600FT■!S TO OVER 5000FT■!S, AND THAT WILL PROJECT TO A HOME PRICE RANGE BETWEEN 700,000 ON THE ON THE LOW END AND THEN THE HIGH END AROUND 900,000 EVEN POSSIBLY GOING IN OVER OVER A MILLION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY THE OPTIONS THEY ELECT AT THE SHOWROOM. NOW, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS. THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A SPECIFIC CONCERNS, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WE HEARD NOT ONLY FROM THE PNC MEETING, BUT IN SUBSEQUENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THEN INDIVIDUAL ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS. TRAFFIC. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A HOT TOPIC AROUND WYLIE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY COUNTRY CLUB AND MCMILLAN. WE'VE HEARD WE HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAFFIC. JUST TWO THINGS I WANTED TO 
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POINT OUT. AND THE COUNCIL PROBABLY IS WELL AWARE OF THIS, BUT MAKE COUNTRY CLUB ROAD IS A 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, SIX LANE DIVIDED MASTER THOROUGHFARE. ADDITIONALLY, MCMILLAN ROAD TODAY IS NOT BUILT TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL. BUT AS YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE DESIGNED THAT TO BE A SIX LANE, 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, DIVIDED RIGHT AWAY AS WELL. AND SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE APEX OF TWO OF YOUR LARGER STREET SECTIONS THAT YOU CAN HAVE THROUGHOUT A METRO AREA. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THAT SLIDE IS PULLED FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ALSO TAKEN FROM THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEVEL OF SERVICE DESCRIPTIONS. AND SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT, AT LEAST AS OF 2018, SHOWED THAT COUNTRY CLUB WAS OPERATING AT AN, A, B, C LEVEL. AND THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S A SIX LANE DIVIDED, YOU KNOW, MASTER THOROUGHFARE. AND THEN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON MCMILLAN TO THE SOUTH AT THAT TIME WAS SHOWING AS, AS A D LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL TOOK THAT TO ACCOUNT AND YOU'RE YOU'VE AGREED OR ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF WIDENING MCMILLAN TO, TO MATCH COUNTRY CLUB, AT LEAST FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT. 
          SO WHAT THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT SLIDE SHOWS. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, PER YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND PER THE ENT COG, THEN THAT SHOULD INCREASE BOTH BOTH THOROUGHFARES TO AN ABC LEVEL OF PRODUCTION. SO ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THIS, THIS THIS SUBDIVISION, THIS SITE HAS ENOUGH LOTS ON IT THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT AFTER ZONING. WHEN WE GET INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STAGE OF THIS, WE WILL HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND WE'LL HAVE TO ADHERE TO WHATEVER IT TELLS US WE NEED TO DO. IF THAT MEANS RIGHT TURN LANES, LEFT TURN LANES, MEDIAN CUTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT SUGGESTS IS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL GET INTO. AND THAT IS REQUIRED AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE. AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT SHORTLY AFTER ZONING, GET OUR PRELIMINARY PLAT TURNED IN AND HAVE THE TEA AND SEE WHAT THOSE RESULTS SAY. ANOTHER CONCERN OBVIOUSLY IS MCMILLAN ROAD. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM YOUR RESIDENTS. AND I WANTED TO, AFTER THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PNC AND HEARING THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE A TIMELINE OF OUR PROJECT AND SEE HOW IT MIGHT LINE UP WITH THE TIMING OF WHAT THE CITY IS TELLING US. THE ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE OF MCMILLAN ROAD IS. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON ON THIS SLIDE IS IN YELLOW IS WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE TIMELINE FOR OUR PROJECT. BY THE TIME WE CLOSE ON THIS, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ZONING AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND PLANNING STAGE ABOUT THREE MONTHS. ENGINEERING WILL TAKE ABOUT ANOTHER 5 TO 6 MONTHS BEFORE WE START THE HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION, PUTTING THE STREETS AND THE ROADS OR THE UTILITIES IN STORMWATER, AND THAT'LL TAKE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 18 MONTHS. AND SO BY THE TIME WE FINISH THE HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION, BEFORE WE EVEN START A SINGLE HOUSE OUT THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A TWO YEAR TIME FRAME, Q1, Q2, 2027. SO YOU'RE FREE, AND THEN YOUR HOMES WILL TAKE ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS. THEY'RE CYCLING IN ABOUT AN EIGHT MONTH TIME FRAME RIGHT NOW. AND SO FULL BUILD OUT OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE PRICE POINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A FIVE YEAR BUILD OUT. SO I ONLY PRESENT THESE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. AT THE BOTTOM IN GREEN IS WHAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN TELLING US AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENT OF MCMILLAN ROAD. AND SO BEFORE WE HAVE ANY RESIDENTS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT YOU ALL HAVE FINISHED CONSTRUCTION. MCMILLAN ROAD TO ITS FULL SECTION. ANOTHER CONCERN WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IS DRAINAGE. AND AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR FULL ENGINEERING ANALYSIS YET. WE'RE JUST IN THE ZONING STAGE. BUT WE DID DO ENOUGH PRELIMINARY AND ENGINEERING, AND WE DO HAVE TWO IN-HOUSE ENGINEERS ON STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE. AND THEN IT BECAME PRETTY CLEAR AFTER TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH AND ALSO TO THE NEIGHBORS ON MCMILLAN ROAD, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, AND THAT'S THE FLOW OF WATER OBVIOUSLY IMPACTING THEM. THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL WATER IMPACTING THEM DOWN STRAIGHT DOWNSTREAM. I WOULD SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO DO OUR DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AND DRAINAGE STUDIES TO GET TURNED INTO STAFF AND BE REVIEWED. STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF REQUIRES THAT. AND SO AS I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT BEFORE, WE'LL HAVE TO DETAIN WATER ON SITE. AND THE FULL LEVEL OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE HAVE TO DETAIN AND RELEASE IT. HISTORIC LEVELS. ADDITIONALLY, REGARDING THE MCMILLAN ROAD RESIDENTS, THE STAFF HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THAT THE DRAINAGE COMING OFF OF THAT SITE AND MADE THOSE IMPROVEMENT DESIGNS WITHIN THE MCMILLAN ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WE'VE GOTTEN A SET OF THOSE PLANS. WE KNOW WHAT THE ANTICIPATED FLOW RATE IS THAT CAN CAN GO UNDERNEATH MCMILLAN ROAD WITH THE PIPE LEVEL IS WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'VE 
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LOOKED AND SEEN IT. ALL THAT AND WE'LL HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FLOW. SO BETWEEN THE AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF WILL ACT AS A NATURAL BARRIER OF THAT ROADWAY. AND THEN WE JUMP TO THE NORTH SIDE. THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNTRY RIDGE RIDGE RESIDENTS. THIS IS A PICTURE THAT WAS SHARED WITH US FROM ONE OF THE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVES ADJACENT TO THIS SITE, AND SWEETGUM ROAD, OR SWEETGUM DRIVE, IS A LONG RIDGE RIDGE COVE DRIVE, AND THEY HAVE AN EXISTING DRAINAGE ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE ARE AWARE OF THIS. I'VE SEEN THIS, BUT THIS IS AT THE HEAD OF THAT CUL DE SAC OF SWEETGUM DRIVE, AND IT PONDS THERE SEVERELY. AND IT'S BECAUSE THAT ROAD WAS, I THINK, EVENTUALLY INTENDED TO CARRY THROUGH IF IT EVER GOT DEVELOPED, BUT IT JUST ENDED UP BEING A CUL DE SAC THERE. THEY PUT A LITTLE TEMPORARY CULVERT UNDERNEATH ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S STREETS OR BACKYARDS, AND IT JUST IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO CARRY THE WATER. OBVIOUSLY, WATER DOESN'T TAKE A LEFT TURN, IT DOESN'T TAKE 90 DEGREE ANGLES. AND SO IT'S PONDING THERE. AND THEN IT'S GETTING INTO THAT CULVERT AND THEN IT KICKS OUT INTO THE INTO THE ALLEY AND HEADS EAST CAUSING PROBLEMS ALL UP AND DOWN THAT LOCATION. SO WE WILL SEND OUR SURVEYORS OUT THERE. TOPO THIS WHOLE SITE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. MOST OF THAT PROPERTY DRAINS ON TO US, EVERYTHING FROM THE NORTH EXCEPT FOR THE FURTHEST YOU GET TO THE EAST TOWARDS COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, AND ABOUT 3 OR 4 OF THOSE HOUSES. THERE IS A LITTLE PONDING THERE ON THE NORTH, I GUESS THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF OUR SITE, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT, THAT WATER AND BRING IT SOUTH AND NOT AND HELP THEM ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM. SOME THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH STAFF TO TRY TO ELIMINATE THAT PROBLEM AND HELP THEM WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TO, IS TO PUT AN INLET AT THE HEAD OF SWEETGUM, WE AT OUR AT OUR COST, AND WE PUT THIS IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. WE'D BE WILLING TO GO UP AND INSTALL AN INLET AFTER ACTUALLY DESIGNING IT, FIGURING OUT WHAT KIND OF WATER IS FLOWING THROUGH THERE, PUT THAT INLET IN THERE AND THEN CARRY IT UNDERGROUND IN A STORM SEWER LINE THAT GETS INTO OUR INTERNAL STORM SEWER NETWORK. THAT SHOULD HANDLE MOST OF THAT WATER. THERE MIGHT BE SOME RESIDUAL WATER THAT CARRIES IT STILL CARRIES UNDER THE PIPE AT PETE'S LOCATION, BUT WE THINK THAT AN INLET CARRIED SOUTH IN A PIPE WILL HANDLE MOST OF THAT WATER AT THAT LOCATION, AND ACTUALLY HELP SOLVE A LOT OF THAT DRAINAGE ISSUES. THOSE FOLKS ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING. WE ALSO HEARD SCHOOL CAPACITY AS A CONCERN. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY SCOTT RODERICK SENT US THIS EMAIL THAT YOU CAN SEE, AND I THINK THE STAFF ALSO HAD THAT IN THEIR STAFF REPORT, THAT THE SCHOOL DOES NOT ANTICIPATE THAT OUR PROJECT WILL ADD SIGNIFICANT, HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. GENERALLY, THE HIGHER YOU KNOW, THE PRICE POINT OF THE HOME AND THE LARGER THE HOME, THE FEWER YOUNG CHILDREN YOU HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AT THAT PRICE POINT, 700 TO $1 MILLION ON THIS HOUSE, YOU WILL HAVE SOME HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE KIDS, BUT YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY WON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACT ON THE LOWER, LOWER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. AND THEN PRIVACY AGAIN, THE FOLKS THAT ARE EXISTING HAVE BEEN USED TO SEEING MRS. BUCK'S FARM AND HER ANIMALS, AND A SERENE SETTING THAT THEY'VE HAD FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND THAT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, DISTURBING WHEN THINGS CHANGE. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND SO AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEN NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIVING IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE AGAIN, YOU KNOW. SO ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT AND WE'VE AGREED TO AND PUT IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS WE WOULD BE WILLING TO ORIGINALLY WE WERE GOING TO DO A SIX FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY ON NEXT TO COUNTRY RIDGE ESTATES. BUT WE'VE AGREED TO TAKE THAT TO AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH LEVEL. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE'LL PUT IT IN AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO BEFORE JUST AFTER, WE NEED TO DO OUR MASS GRADING AND GET OUR GRADING FIGURED OUT. AND THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL PUT THE FENCE IN IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING GRADING PRIOR TO UTILITY INSTALLATION. AND THAT WILL HELP CREATE A BARRIER BETWEEN OUR PROJECT AND THEIR PROJECT. IT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, STOP TRASH FLOW. IF THERE'S ANY TRASH OUT THERE, IT'LL IT'LL STOP CONTRACTORS FROM PARKING ON THEIR ALLEYS. THEY'LL HAVE TO COME IN AND JUST STAY ON OUR SITE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO HAVING US PUT THAT IN EARLY. NOT ONLY THAT, THEN WE ARE CREATING A MANDATORY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THAT HOA, WE WILL WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THE STATE, AND WE PUT IT IN OUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT OUR HOA WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT THAT FENCE IN PERPETUITY. SO WE'LL WRITE THAT INTO OUR HOA RESTRICTIONS. IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. AND SO THERE'S NOT ONLY TEETH FOR OUR HOA TO ENFORCE, BUT ALSO THE CITY AS WELL. AND WE HEARD ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT THE SWEETGUM DRIVE CARRYING THROUGH. THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TOLD US THEY DON'T WANT SWEET GUM DRIVE TO BE A CONNECTION POINT. 
          THERE WAS SOME SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT EARLY ON AND WITH US AND STAFF AND, AND THE DECISION 
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WAS TO NOT CARRY SWEET GUM DRIVE THROUGH AND THAT INSTEAD TO TRY TO HANDLE THAT DRAINAGE THROUGH THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE FLOW. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, IF THEY WANTED SWEET GUM TO DRIVE TO GO THROUGH, THEY DID TALK ABOUT A GATED ACCESS POINT, WHICH KIND OF DEFEATS THAT PURPOSE. SO. AND THEN LAND USE, A CONCERN WAS RAISED THAT THE LOTS IN COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO BORDERING PROPERTIES. I WOULD SAY THAT THE SF AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ON THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL. BUT OUR STRAIGHT ZONE IS A MINIMUM OF 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS YOU'VE SEEN IN YOUR BUILDER PACKET THAT ALL BUT THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH HAVE SMALLER LOTS. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THIS PROJECT. ADDITIONALLY, THE AND THE PROPERTY SOUTH OF MCMILLAN, THOSE ARE ESTATE ONE ACRE PLUS SIZE LOTS, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATE. WE HAVE A 40 FOOT SEPARATION MANDATORY BUFFER ON OUR SIDE OF MCMILLAN ROAD. ADDITIONALLY, MCMILLAN'S 120 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, YOU KNOW, SIX LANE, DIVIDED EVENTUAL RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN OUR PROJECT AND THEIRS. SO THIS JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE DIFFERENT SIZE LOTS IN THE AREA. AND THEN PROPERTY VALUES. AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER CONCERN WE HEARD. I WOULD SAY THAT IN LOOKING AT COUNTRY RIDGE AND THEIR VALUES, THEIR HOMES RANGE FROM ABOUT 400,000 TO ABOUT 700,000. SOME, SOME THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT TODAY WITH LOT SIZES FROM 91 TO 125FT■!S. I THINK THE MINIMUM IN THEIR PD IS 8500. AND SO WITH A STRAIGHT ZONE PD, WE'RE DOING ALL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. OUR ACTUAL ANTICIPATED LOT SIZE IS 77 TO 80 FOOT WIDE BY 130 FOOT DEEP, WITH AGAIN PRICES BETWEEN 700 AND 900,000. SO IF ANYTHING, WE SHOULD HELP BUOY THEIR THEIR VALUES AND KEEP THEM UP AND HELP HELP MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY VALUES AND THAT NICE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR COME BACK UP AFTER YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, ANY IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK? OKAY OKAY. SO WE'LL PROBABLY CALL YOU BACK UP. YES. SO WITH THAT MISS STORM, SINCE WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT THIS EVENING AND WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND ADDRESS COUNCIL, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS. IF AN INDIVIDUAL SIX IF OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP. WE DO ASK IF YOU DID NOT COMPLETE A FORM AND YOU DECIDE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IF YOU WILL HELP US OUT BY COMPLETING ONE OF THOSE FOR OUR RECORD BEFORE YOU LEAVE, YOU'LL STILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK. WE JUST WE JUST KEEP THAT FOR OUR RECORDS AS PART OF KEEPING TRACK OF WHO IS SPEAKING FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD. SO WITH THAT, I WILL START WITH THE FORMS I HAVE, AND THEN I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE. SO THE FIRST ONE I HAVE HERE IS JILL LOWRY, AND I WILL ASK IN ADVANCE TO BE PATIENT WITH ME IF I DO NOT GET THE NAME ENUNCIATION CORRECT, I DO MY BEST. AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TIME IN WHICH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. THANK THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JILL LOWRY AND I LIVE AT 1819 SPINNAKER WAY. I'M IN THE NEW NEWPORT HARBOR SUBDIVISION. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE SINCE 1998. SO THIS IS KIND OF BACKWARDS. SO I AM HERE FOR THE FAMILY. I HAVE KNOWN THE FAMILY SINCE 98 OR 99. LIKE CATHERINE, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH COME THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE BEEN A PART OF SIMILAR MEETINGS. I'VE RAISED MY FOUR CHILDREN HERE ALONGSIDE HERS. I MUCH PREFER HAVING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH PROPER SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE THAN APARTMENT COMMUNITIES, OR PERHAPS ANY UNWANTED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. SO FOR ME, THIS IS A WIN WITH THE NEIGHBORING CHURCH AND SCHOOLS. THESE ADDITIONAL HOMES WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION AND WILL FURTHER BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST REALLY THAT SIMPLE. FOR ME. 
          THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN MY HOME WAS WAS BUILT IN NEWPORT HARBOR. SO I COMMEND ALL FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THIS COMMUNITY. IT WAS A LOT DIFFERENT WHAT I EXPERIENCED IN THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND WHATNOT. SO YEP, I AM HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT AT 1755 FM 1378 AND THE 1813 AND 2241 MCMILLAN ROAD. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE JOSHUA THORNBURG. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS JOSHUA THORNBURG. I'M AT 1423 BEAR PAW 
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LANE OVER IN WYLIE, TEXAS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MY NAME IS JOSH, AND MY PROPERTY DIRECTLY BORDERS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT, AS I BELIEVE OUR SHARED GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS WIDELY IS BENEFICIAL TO ALL ITS RESIDENTS. I HAVE SEVERAL IMPORTANT CONCERNS REGARDING THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH APPEARS TO CONFLICT WITH THE CITY'S OWN ESTABLISHED PLANNING GUIDELINES. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN THE ENVISION WYLIE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF 2022, CREATED WITH SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY INPUT, DESIGNATES MOST OF THIS PROPERTY FOR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, WITH THE PORTION SET ASIDE FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, WHICH IS ONE ACRE FOR 43,000FT■. 
          THE DEVELOPMENT'S CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING DEVIATES FROM THIS CAREFULLY CONSIDERED VISION, ACCORDING TO THE WYLIE CODE OF ORDINANCES, APPENDIX B, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 2.2 C AMENDMENTS OR REZONING MUST ALIGN WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. IT IS IMPORTANT WE HONOR THESE REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE THOUGHTFULLY DEVELOPED TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS AND FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. OF THE 60 ACRES IN QUESTION, 19 ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AS LOW DENSITY, CLEARLY DEFINED IN OUR ORDINANCES. APPENDIX B, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 3.1 OF FIGURE 3-2 AS ONE ACRE LOTS, ENSURING CLARITY AND ADHERENCE TO THESE GUIDELINES IS VITAL FOR MAINTAINING COMMUNITY TRUST AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR CITY PLANNING. ANOTHER PRESSING CONCERN IS DRAINAGE AND FLOODING. MY PROPERTY, AND THOSE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPERIENCED SUBSTANTIAL RUNOFF PROBLEMS, WORSENED BY PREVIOUS NEARBY DEVELOPMENTS. THE EXPANSION OF THE MCMILLAN ROAD AND ADDITIONAL CONCRETE FROM THESE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS RISK AGGRAVATING EXISTING FLOODING ISSUES. 
          ADDRESSING DRAINAGE COMPREHENSIVELY. BEFORE APPROVING FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAFETY AND THE WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY'S ELEVATION, WHICH SITS HIGHER THAN NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE WEST AND SOUTH, INTENSIFIES OUR DRAINAGE CONCERNS. FINALLY, WHILE WE HOPE YOU RECONSIDER THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF ANY CONSTRUCTION IS APPROVED, WE STRONGLY PETITION FOR THE EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE CURRENTLY PROPOSED FOR THE WEST OR FOR THE NORTH SIDE TO BE EXTENDED TO THE FULL WESTERN PERIMETER. IN CLOSING, I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CAREFULLY ALIGN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOROUGHLY ADDRESS OUR CRITICAL DRAINAGE CONCERNS, AND CONTINUE THE SAFEGUARDING OF THE LONG TERM INVESTMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR THESE MATTERS. AND I DO HAVE SOME HANDOUTS WITH THE MAPS AND ARTICLES FOR I MENTIONED WHAT I MENTIONED. THANK YOU SIR. AND IF YOU'LL GIVE THOSE TO MISS STORM. YEAH. 
          THANK. YOU. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE CATHERINE BUCZEK. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M CATHERINE BUCZEK OF 1755 FM 1378, IN WYLIE. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO WYLIE IN 1995, FIRST SETTLING IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES IN TWO YEARS LATER PURCHASING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, RAISING OUR FAMILY AND OPERATING A PRODUCTIVE FARM. WYLIE HAD ABOUT 8000 RESIDENTS AT THAT TIME. NOW I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE ABOUT 65,000. WITH GROWTH COMES CHANGE AND THE CITY HAS WORKED TO ACCOMMODATE IT. WHEN 1378 WAS WIDENED, WE COLLABORATED WITH THE CITY TO INCLUDE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO OUR PROPERTY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL ALSO BENEFIT THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY UPGRADED WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, ENSURING PROPER RUNOFF MANAGEMENT. JUST NORTH OF US, THE COUNTRY RIDGE DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSFULLY HANDLED OVER 100 ACRES OF RUNOFF WITHOUT HARMING SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. OR OUR FARM RESIDENTS CAN TRUST THAT THIS SAME RESPONSIBLE PLANNING WILL APPLY HERE. I HAD HOPED TO FIND A BUYER TO CONTINUE FARMING THE LAND, BUT THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS WORRY ABOUT LOSING THEIR OPEN VIEWS AND WYLIE SMALL TOWN FEEL CHANGE IS ALWAYS AN ADJUSTMENT, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING MEANINGFUL BENEFITS. KEEP IN MIND, WITHOUT SELLING THE FARM, THE DRAINAGE ISSUES WILL STILL BE THERE. WHILE PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HIGH VALUED HOMES WILL ENHANCE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES. 
          PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS WHICH ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE FOR MOST OF THEM. RESPONSIBLE. GRADUAL GROWTH WITH DEVELOPMENT EXPECTED BETWEEN 5 AND 8 YEARS, ALLOWING THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS TO 
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ADAPT. ADDED COMMUNITY FEATURES INCLUDING SIDEWALKS AND MAIN ALONG THE MAIN ROADS, AND A REQUIRED HOA. I HAVE PERSONALLY ADVOCATED FOR THESE IN PAST DEVELOPMENTS AND THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE WHICH THE CITY WOULD NOT GIVE US. THE FARM. WAY BACK WHEN THEY STARTED COUNTRY ROADS ESTATE. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ALTERNATIVE TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD WANT THE NEARBY RESIDENTS. TONIGHT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE. THE DECISION SUPPORTS RESPONSIBLE GROWTH BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS, AND PROVIDES A POSITIVE PATH FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND IT CORRECTS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. 
          THE DRAINAGE WON'T BE CORRECTED WITHOUT THE FARM GOING AWAY. SO IF I DON'T SELL THE FARM, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE ISSUES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THE FORMS THAT WERE TURNED IN, MISS STORM. OKAY. SO FROM THERE I'D ASK I'LL ASK IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. I'D ASK THAT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO JUST CALL ON EVERYONE ONE AT A TIME. SO IF ANYONE ELSE IS PRESENT THIS EVENING AND WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, I'D ASK THAT YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AT THIS TIME. SIR. I SAW YOU FIRST. BUT I WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING YOU'RE GOING TO. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO SPEAK. AND IF YOU WILL, FOR US, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN. OH, ALREADY GOT THE FORM. 
          DID A GOOD JOB AT THE FRONT. SO GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS PETER RUSSELL. I RESIDE AT 1600 SWEET GUM DRIVE, WYLIE, TEXAS. THE I'M THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT BRIAN BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. THE WATER LINE GOES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY. THERE HAS BEEN NUMEROUS TIMES THAT WE'VE HAD THE CITY OUT THERE TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE. THOSE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW WITH THE CAR OUT THERE, IT'S MY NEIGHBOR'S CAR, BUT I'M KIND OF GLAD IT WAS THERE BECAUSE IT GIVES PERSPECTIVE TO HOW DEEP THAT WATER IS. I'M SORRY HE HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. BUT ANYWAY, IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE. I'VE BEEN TOLD THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I'VE BEEN IN SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FOLKS AT SCOREBOARD, AND THEY HAVE BEEN GRACIOUSLY OR THEY HAVE GRACIOUSLY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD FIX YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM IS PART OF THEIR PLAN. AND SO I THANK THEM FOR THAT. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I AM ENDORSING THIS THIS PROPOSAL. THE HOUSES LOOK GOOD AND ETC. THIS GENTLEMAN BEHIND ME MAY COME TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT AS WELL. BUT ANOTHER OPTION FOR INSTEAD OF THE DRAINAGE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, MIGHT BE TO HAVE THAT PASS THROUGH GATE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE STREET, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO GO SOUTH TO EXIT OR EVEN COME IF THEY'RE COMING NORTH, AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A CONCRETE AREA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED FOR THEM TO TURN AROUND, AND THAT PAVEMENT IS NOT OF GOOD QUALITY, NOT ENOUGH TO HANDLE ONGOING TRAFFIC ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO BE IT. WITH A PASS THROUGH GATE THAT'S OPERABLE ONLY BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR WITH THE DRAINAGE THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE PROPOSED. I, I EITHER WAY, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. SO AS LONG AS THAT'S DRAINAGE TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT SIR, I KNOW YOU WERE WISHING TO SPEAK AS WELL. THANK YOU. THIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PAUL KIRKLEY. I RESIDE AT 1707 RED CEDAR DRIVE IN COUNTRY RIDGE ESTATES. I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY THERE, AND ALSO AS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THE PROPERTY TO OUR SOUTH THERE AT SWEETGUM THAT MR. RUSSELL WAS TALKING ABOUT. SWEET GUM DEAD ENDS. THERE IT IS, A DRIVE ON ALL PLATS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND. BUT AT SOME POINT WHEN GRANT HOMES OWNED A LOT AT THE END OF THAT STREET, WHICH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PURCHASED FROM GRANT HOMES, THEY HAD WHAT I CAN ASSUME IS A GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO MAKE A CUL DE SAC KIND OF SHAPE. LIKE MR. RUSSELL POINTED OUT, THAT CONCRETE IS NOT STREET GRADE. IT'S LUCKY TO BE SIDEWALK GRADE. WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY EMPLOYEES ABOUT TRYING TO USE THAT LOT AS A COMMUNITY OR RECREATION AREA FOR COUNTRY 
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RIDGE ESTATES, BUT WE'VE RUN INTO BLOCKERS BECAUSE OF THAT MAKESHIFT CUL DE SAC. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT STREET SWEET GUM DRIVE TO BE CONTINUED INTO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T BECOME A THOROUGHFARE FOR PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH TO GET TO MCMILLAN, BUT IF WE CAN'T HAVE THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST A STREET GO THROUGH THAT MAY ALLOW US TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON THE LOT THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OWNS, WITHOUT ANY BARRIER FROM THE CITY OF NEED FOR THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO DO U-TURNS ON THAT DRIVE. AND BE ABLE TO NOT IMPEDE PEOPLE GETTING EMERGENCY SERVICES THEY NEED IN BOTH IN EITHER COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, AS A NATURE WAY, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. TO OUR SOUTH, IT IS HOMES THAT ARE VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT WE OWN. I THINK IT WILL IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, DENSITY IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE IN WYLIE, BUT I DON'T SEE VACANT LAND WITH DRAINAGE ISSUES BEING A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY EITHER. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY HANDS I SAW LAST TIME. SO I'LL ASK AGAIN IF ANYONE IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING, I'D ASK THAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF KNOWN AT THIS TIME. OKAY, SO, MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SO WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, MR. HASKINS, IF YOU WOULD. YES, SIR. SO WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS THERE. WITH REGARDS TO LOOKING AT SWEET GUM AND HOW THAT'S HANDLED. SO I KNOW THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HAS THE DRAINAGE INLET AS THE ANSWER, ESSENTIALLY CONNECTING IT TO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM SO THAT THE WATER DOESN'T POND. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND NOW? DID WAS ANY IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS LOOKED AT TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY GATE, BUT THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK ORIGINALLY OR ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN INTO THIS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE THE RESIDENTS IN A SUBDIVISION WANT TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUBDIVISION. AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. BUT THAT BEING SAID, IT'S THE PREFERENCE OF STAFF, FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND PLANNING THAT THAT WOULD AT LEAST WOULD GO THROUGH. THAT'S WHY THIS THAT'S WHY IT DEAD ENDED THE WAY IT DID. IF A KNOX BOX GATE HAS TO GO UP IN ORDER FOR EVERYBODY TO BE HAPPY, THAT'S FINE. ALSO, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE P AFTER MY NAME, BUT THE INLET, I'M 99% SURE THAT INLET GOES AWAY. AND THEN THE, THE, THE WATER WILL JUST FLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, INTO THE OTHER. AND THEN THE SCHAUBERG ENGINEERS WILL FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO WHAT TO DO WITH THAT WATER ONCE IT TRAVELS FURTHER DOWN THE STREET. SO I WOULD ASSUME IF IT CONNECTS BASED ON THE GRADE, THEY CAN ALWAYS ADD THEIR ENGINEERS ALONG THE SIDE AS WELL. YES, SIR. 
          OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S DIFFERING THOUGHTS POTENTIALLY FROM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT. WELL THAT WAS DURING THE ORIGINAL COMMENTS. AND AT PNC, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED. BUT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT GROUP OF FOLKS STATING A DIFFERENT OPINION THIS EVENING. SO I THINK COUNCILMAN MALIKAI MAY HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. SO I WANT TO LET HIM. 
          YES, SIR. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. HASKINS. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP, AND I'LL APPRECIATE IF THE ENGINEER WOULD GET UP AND KIND OF GIVE US THE LAY AROUND ABOUT NOT ONLY THE WATER THROUGH SWEET, SWEET GUM ON THE BACK END, BUT THE FRONT END, THIS ELEVATION OF THE PROPERTY, YOUR WHOLE LOT IS. THE ELEVATION OF THE LOT IS HIGHER THAN MCMILLAN WILL BE AND HIGHER THAN COUNTRY CLUB WILL BE. SO I WANT TO KNOW FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO WORK ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUE FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD? YEAH, I'LL LET HIM SINCE YOU GOT NO. MY NAME IS PRESTON CROWE WITH SCHAUBERGER COMPANY, 80 214 WESTCHESTER DRIVE, SUITE 900, DALLAS, TEXAS. 75225. SO YOUR QUESTION IS THE WATER COMING FROM SWEETGUM FRONT OF YOUR PROPERTY AND THE BACK PROPERTY? SO SWEETGUM IS ON THE BACK OF THE END OF THE PROPERTY, OR IT'S ON THE NORTH END OR THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN YOUR FRONT PROPERTY IS STATING TOWARDS MCMILLAN AND PART OF IT, IT'S HIGHER THAN MCMILLAN ROAD WILL BE. YOUR ELEVATION IS HIGHER THAN MCMILLAN ROAD. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU'LL HAVE WATER COMING FROM YOUR PROPERTY AS IT DRAINS FROM COMING FROM THE BRIDGE PER SE. ON THAT END, 
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DRAINING THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY. SO HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO HOLD THAT WATER OUT? HAVE YOU DONE ANY PRELIMINARY LOOK INTO IT? YES. SO THE WATER WE GENERALLY HAVE A RIDGE THROUGH THE CENTER OF OUR PROPERTY GOING NORTH SOUTH, WHERE THE WATER SPLITS WEST AND EAST. SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS A DETENTION POND IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. YOU HAVE TWO DETENTION PONDS? YES, SIR. AND I DIDN'T SEE THEM. AM I NOT SEEING THEM ON YOUR. THEY'RE THEY'RE SHOWN AS OPEN SPACE FOR NOW. IF THIS IS UP, IF I CAN FIND. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE SOUTHEAST, 28 X IS AN OPEN SPACE. OKAY. YOU'LL SEE THE BIG BOXES THAT ARE GOING UNDER MCMILLAN. THOSE ARE PLANNED ONCE MCMILLAN COMES UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND WE'LL HAVE A DETENTION POND THERE THAT OUTFALLS STRAIGHT INTO THAT. THAT BOX CULVERT SIZED FOR WHAT? WE'RE OUTFLOWING OUT OF THAT AT EXISTING CONDITIONS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT, 17 X ON THE OPPOSITE. THAT'S CORRECT. YES AS WELL. AND IT'S THE SAME DEAL WHERE THAT LINE THAT YOU SEE THAT WE TIE INTO IS WITH THE PROPOSED MCMILLAN IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. AND THEN TO TOUCH BACK ON THE SWEET GUM I KNOW IT STARTED WITH SWEET GUM. THE WATER THAT COMES OFF SWEET GUM. IT'S REALLY JUST THAT STREET RIGHT WHERE IT BREAKS IT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EAST WEST STREET IS THERE, BUT IT COMES THERE. AND LIKE HE WAS SAYING, THE STREET JUST KIND OF ENDS CORRECT AND GETS SENT WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SENT DOWN THAT ALLEY. SO BY BRINGING IT INTO OUR SUBDIVISION, IT HELPS BOTH THAT ALLEY AND SWEET GUM. SO ALL THE WATER THAT'S COME FROM THE NORTH, I GUESS, TOWARDS THEN WHERE IT ENDS. SO THE SWEET GUM, YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO PLACE A CULVERT THERE AND THEN CARRY THE WATER THROUGH. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THIS WILL BE ON ORDINANCE OR PROPOSED THING OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE. HOLD ON TO THIS. WHAT KIND OF ASSURANCES WE HAVE THAT THEY WILL GO THROUGH ALL THAT. YEAH. WE HAVE A SIGNED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE INLET BUILDING MATERIALS AND THE FENCE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT EXECUTED, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WILL OF COUNCIL. AND IF THE ZONING WERE TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT, WE WILL AMEND THAT ZONING OR THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEY'LL RE SIGN IT AND SEND IT BACK TO US BEFORE THE ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED. IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE'LL HAVE BOTH ENDS. THE FRONT I GUESS I'M CALLING IT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM MCMILLAN'S STANDPOINT AND TOWARDS THE STREET FROM IT WILL INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT I'M I BROUGHT UP TODAY. I WOULD OKAY. THE ONE THING, COUNCILMAN LEACH THAT I'D BE HESITANT TO SAY FOR SURE IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE IS THIS IS JUST A ZONING EXHIBIT. AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE EXPECTING TO ACTUALLY LOSE EVEN MORE LOTS WHEN THEY FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH DRAINAGE THEY UNDERSTAND. SO THAT THAT MAY NOT BE EXACT YET BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR FULL ENGINEERING DONE. BUT YES, ALL THE OTHER THINGS WILL DEFINITELY BE INCLUDED. OKAY. AND THEN. GO ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I PASS IT ON LOW DENSITY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US LOW DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY, THE FUTURE LAND COMP PLAN, HOW THAT WORKS? IF I'M CORRECT, THE LOW DENSITY IS ONE ACRE LOTS. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. 
          AND THEN THIS SEEMS TO BE MORE OF MEDIUM SLASH. I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT HIGH DENSITY BECAUSE HIGH DENSITY IS MULTI MULTIFAMILY. BUT THIS IS MORE OF MEDIUM DENSITY. IS THAT CORRECT. 
          THE WAY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN READS THERE IS THERE IS NO LOT SIZE SPECIFIC TO THE MEDIUM AND LOW DENSITY. IT SAYS LARGE LOTS AND GENERALLY LARGE LOTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WRITTEN IN A GENERAL WAY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR ADJUSTMENT. YOU KNOW, AS TIME GOES ON, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THE COMP PLAN NOW IS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT'S ALREADY THREE AND A HALF YEARS OLD. CORRECT? AND SO THERE MIGHT BE ROOM FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ADJUSTMENT THERE. OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH HASN'T BEEN ADJUSTED FOR. THE LOT SIZES, DOES CALL OUT SF 1024 AS MEDIUM DENSITY. THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS A 20 YEAR OLD ORDINANCE THAT WE PLAN ON UPDATING VERY SOON TO MATCH UP MORE WITH OUR COMP, WITH OUR OUR COMP PLAN. AND THEN THE ONE OTHER THING IS THE RADIO TOWERS. 
          CORRECT? I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION AT THE COMP PLAN THAT WAS CALLED OUT AS OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT REALLY, TO BE HONEST, IT JUST WASN'T ENVISIONED THAT THOSE TOWERS WOULD COME DOWN. AND IF THEY WERE, THEN THAT BEING OPEN SPACE WAS A WAY FOR THE CITY TO DO WHATEVER WOULD BE BEST FOR THE CITY, IN THAT AT THE TIME THAT SOMETHING WAS PRESENTED, SUCH AS IT IS THIS EVENING, IS WHAT'S THE PLAN? AND MOVING THE TOWERS AND WHAT? HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AN ITEM WILL BE ADDED, THAT THOSE TOWERS WILL COME DOWN BEFORE THEY WILL GET AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER FOR THE SUBDIVISION FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR VERY FIRST 
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PHASE. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THOSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO CONSTRUCTION WORK OUT THERE, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT IN UTILITIES, PUT IN STREETS, BUT THEY CANNOT BUILD A HOUSE UNTIL THOSE TOWERS ARE DOWN. THAT'S OUR THOUGHT AS OF RIGHT NOW. IF COUNCIL IS AGREEABLE TO THAT, OKAY, I'LL PASS IT ON. MAYOR PRO TEM. SO THOSE TOWERS ARE MY MAIN CONCERN RIGHT NOW? YES, SIR. IF ONE OF THOSE WERE TO GET HOOKED ON A PIECE OF MACHINERY AND FALL, IT WOULD FALL ALMOST ALL THE WAY ACROSS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO IF I'M CORRECT, THOSE ARE CONTRACTED FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THROUGH 2029. SO MY CONCERN AGAIN IS IF THEY'RE CONTRACTED THROUGH 2029. 
          THIS REQUEST IS TODAY. I'M GOING TO IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA LET THE APPLICANT TALK TO THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I BELIEVE YEAH. YEAH I BELIEVE THEY CAN TAKE THEM DOWN BEFORE THAT. SO BUT I'M GOING TO LET THEM TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. SURE. THANK YOU SIR. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS ASSURED US AND WE AND BASED ON TITLE WE'VE, WE'VE VERIFIED THAT THESE THE OWNER OF THOSE PROPERTIES OF THOSE TOWERS, WE INTEND TO DEMOLISH THOSE TOWERS IMMEDIATELY. THAT'LL BE THE FIRST THING WE DO ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE DEMO ON THE PROPERTY. WE'LL TAKE THOSE DOWN BEFORE WE START ANY OF THE CIVIL, CIVIL CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT A BID FROM AN EAST. IT'S CALLED EAST TOWER, EAST EAST TEXAS TOWERS, AND IT'S LIKE A $30,000 DEMO JOB. IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE REMEDIATION OF THAT SITE, SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE DOWN. IT'LL BE THE FIRST THING WE DO. SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE CONTRACTS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST FOR THE USERS OF THE TOWERS? YEAH. THE GENTLEMAN THAT THAT WE'RE BUYING FROM OWNS THOSE STATIONS. AND SO THOSE, THOSE TOWERS CAN BE DEMOLISHED. OKAY. I HAVE NO FURTHER. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST TO VERIFY WHAT YOU SAID THERE. SO THE TOWERS ARE BROUGHT, WHATEVER THEY'RE BROADCASTING ON IS JUST FROM THE GENTLEMAN WHO OR. THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING, MR. CROCKER. YES. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT, MR. HASKINS, YOU STATED THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ANY HOUSING CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE TOWERS WERE GONE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING DONE ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL IT'S SAFE. AND IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE SAFE, THOSE TOWERS MUST BE GONE. YES, SIR. THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM. WE'LL PUT IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAY. AND IT SEEMS FORWARD AGREEING THAT THEY'RE FINE. 
          AGREEABLE TO THAT? YES, SIR. OKAY, SO I DID HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, JUST BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT HAD COME THROUGH. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A FULL COMPLEMENT HERE PLUS STAFF. BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION, IF THE DESIRE IS TO PUNCH SWEET GUM THROUGH AND PUT UP A KNOX BOX, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALSO FIND ACCEPTABLE AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE INLET? YEAH, WHAT I TOLD I TOLD PAUL. PAUL. RIGHT. I'M SORRY. IS THAT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING HE WAS ON THERE. I SAID THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT IS TO IS TO GET INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN OF IT AND FIND OUT WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION. BUT YEAH, WE'D BE OPEN TO THAT. IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON IT. SURE. ON US, SURE, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. SO IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL, WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE PD AND GO THAT DIRECTION. OR, OR YOU COULD LEAVE IT IN STAFF'S HANDS AND WE COULD GO THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PROCESS AND SEE WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS AT THAT TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PUT THIS OR THIS BASED ON STAFF REVIEWING ENGINEERING AT THE TIME. SO BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OBVIOUSLY WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THEM, BUT I'D HATE TO PICK SOMETHING THIS EVENING AND FIND OUT FROM STAFF THAT BASED ON WATER FLOW, THAT'S THE WRONG OPTION FOR US TO TAKE AND THEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS. I AGREE WITH THAT. AND THEN AS WE GET INTO THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STAGE, IF THAT'S, WE CAN ACTUALLY CALL THE HOA IN AND HAVE A SIT DOWN MEETING WITH ENGINEERING STAFF OR OUR ENGINEERS AND THEM AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT. AND I KNOW, JUST AGAIN, WANTING TO BRING UP THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD THIS EVENING, OBVIOUSLY WE HEARD FROM ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER THERE TO THE WEST WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PROPERTY SCREEN THE FENCE AS WELL, FOR PRIVACY REASONS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AMENABLE TO? THAT PROPERTY IS IN THE ETJ, AND ABOUT ABOUT 70% OF IT IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN. THAT WILL LIKELY NEVER BE DEVELOPED. THERE'S 1 OR 2 EXISTING RESIDENTS OUT THERE. SO I THINK THE IMPACT IS, IS A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE NORTH SIDE. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WISHES TO ENTERTAIN, WE WOULD WE WOULD ENTERTAIN IT. BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I THINK IS NECESSARY FOR THIS FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR I WANT TO OPEN IT BACK UP TO COUNCILMAN MALIKI. SO I WANT TO BRING THAT UP SPECIFICALLY BEING AN ETJ. AND THEY CAN DEVELOP WHATEVER THEY LIKE, RIGHT? I THINK FROM PRIVACY STANDPOINT, NOT ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT OR WHATEVER THAT COMES ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT 
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EVEN ON YOUR PROPERTY. I THINK AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE OF SOME SORT IS A MUST ON THAT SIDE OF, ESPECIALLY FOR ME, PERSONALLY SPEAKING, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT VERY, VERY MUCH. THE SECOND PART THAT THE SECOND PART THAT I HAVE IS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ENTRANCE. YOU HAVE ONE ENTRANCE FROM MCMILLAN AND ONE ENTRANCE FROM COUNTRY CLUB. AND IF WE'RE HAVING ABOUT 170 HOUSES AND I GUESS I'M NOT NO ENGINEER, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING ALL THOSE CARS AND BEING ABLE TO COME OUT AND ALL THAT, IS THERE A CHANCE WE CAN HAVE MAYBE TWO ENTRANCES OUT IN MCMILLAN SPECIFICALLY BEING THE MCMILLAN WILL BE BETTER, BIGGER ROAD ONCE WE ARE GOING THROUGH. OR WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE TALKED TO ENGINEERING ABOUT THAT. AND THE PROBLEM IS WHERE THE DRAINAGE OUTFLOWS IS, WHERE THAT DETENTION POND NEEDS TO BE ON THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER. AND SO AND THEN IF YOU TRY TO MOVE IT FURTHER TO THE WEST, YOU GET YOU GOT SEPARATION ISSUES BETWEEN YOUR TWO ENTRANCES. SO THIS IS THE IT WAS THE BEST DESIGN WE COULD COME UP WITH. IT SATISFIES YOUR ENGINEERING STAFF. AND SO AS WE GET INTO THE FULL ENGINEERING DESIGN, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AGAIN WE CAN DO THAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE OUTFLOW UNDER MCMILLAN, THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND WHERE WE HAVE TO PUT OUR DETENTION, THAT WAS UNFEASIBLE AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE COMMENTS FROM MY COUNCILMAN MALIKI ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YES. THAT NEIGHBOR IS IN THE ETJ. HOWEVER, THEY'RE YOUR NEIGHBOR AND THEY'RE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS. SO THEY'VE ASKED FOR A PRIVACY SCREEN ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. AND I WOULD AGREE THAT THAT WOULD BE A MUST IF THIS IS APPROVED THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST QUESTION. I'LL COME BACK TO JASON SINCE YOU'RE UP THAT WAY. Y'ALL DON'T HAVE TO KEEP PLAYING MUSICAL CHAIRS. AND THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR YOUR ENGINEER. SURE. ON YOUR DRAINAGE, ON YOUR FLOOD STUDY. 
          BECAUSE I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO PULL SOMEONE ELSE'S NUMBERS. WHERE DO YOU ALL GET YOUR NUMBERS FROM? ON YOUR WATER FLOW? YES. COME ON UP HERE. YEAH. THE NUMBERS WILL COME FROM THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ON THE DEAL TO THE NORTH COUNTRY RIDGE. AND THEN FOR THE DEAL TO THE SOUTH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN STUDIED RIGHT NOW. IF IT'S BEEN STUDIED, YOU CAN PULL IT FROM FEMA. IF NOT, THEN WE'LL DO A FULL STUDY ON IT. AND SOME OF THAT WAS MY CONCERN. I SEE FEMA'S LAST UPDATE ON THEIR PERMIT WAS 2009. SO ON THIS ONE, ACTUALLY, NOW THAT I'M THINKING MCMILLAN WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE STUDIED ALL OF THAT. SO MCMILLAN SHOULD HAVE ALL THE STUDIES SOUTH. AND SO THEY'RE BASICALLY THEIR PLANS WILL DICTATE WHAT WE CAN BRING IN FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT. SO YOU'LL BE DOING THE ONES FROM MCMILLAN, FROM THE STUDY THAT WE DID FOR THE FOR THE ROADWAY, NOT FROM FEMA'S. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE LOOKS LIKE AND THAT'S MY SOME OF MY CONCERN AND JUST KIND OF FORECAST PROBLEMS FOR SOLUTIONS MORE THAN ANYTHING. SO OF COURSE Y'ALL'S PROPERTY BORDERS THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. RIGHT. THIS RIGHT NOW IT, YOU KNOW, COMES RIGHT UP TO IT OR IS RIGHT AT THE BUFFERS RIGHT BEFORE THE PROPERTY IS ON THE WEST SIDE. ON THE EAST SIDE ON THE. OH YES. YES. YEAH. SO IT COMES RIGHT UP TO IT. AND I PULLED A FERMAT ON IT. AND SO OKAY, WELL IF IT'S THAT FAR ON THE 2009 WHERE IS IT NOW. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN, IS THAT RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT THOSE LINES ARE GOING TO END UP BEING MOVED. YEAH. AND THAT'S TO BE UPDATED. AND THEN THE QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE DEVELOPMENT. BECAUSE FIRST THAT PUTS IT RIGHT IN YOUR YOUR DETENTION ON THAT CORNER RIGHT OFF THE BAT. AND SO YOU'RE DETAINING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY MY CONCERN IS ALREADY OVER, YOU KNOW, OR OVER FILLED FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD THAT HAS THOSE DRAINAGE ISSUES. YEP. 
          SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH OF THE DETENTION, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE EVEN WITH THE TWO UNITS YOU'VE GOT THAT. THAT'S FOR THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT'S THERE THE FALL. AND AS CLOSE AS IT IS TO THE, YOU KNOW, FLOODWAY THAT I KNOW, THE ENGINEERING WILL SHOW WHAT IT SHOWS. BUT THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE PULLING FROM? BECAUSE WHAT DATA WE'RE PULLING FROM IS GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE AT THE END OF THE DAY, FOR SURE. AND WE VERIFY THAT DATA IF IT'S OLDER, BUT YES, IT'LL BE FROM MCMILLAN. THAT DETENTION POND STRATEGICALLY PLACED THAT CREEK KIND OF CURLS. AND IT COMES THROUGH OUR 40 FOOT BUFFER THERE ON THE SOUTH. SO THERE'S ROOM TO MOVE. OUR POND WILL BE UP AND OUT OF THAT FLOODPLAIN. OKAY. 
          AND THE SIZE OF THOSE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO, BUT THE SIZE OF THOSE DETENTION PONDS, BECAUSE THEY SEEM REALLY SMALL COMPARED TO. CORRECT. AND THAT'S ACRES. BRIAN TOUCHED ON THAT, THAT WE THINK ONCE WE GET INTO IT, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THERE'S MORE LOTS LOST AND THAT WE WON'T GET THE FULL 181. BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT WILL BE THE NEXT STEP IS TO SIZE THOSE PROPERLY OKAY. AND SO I NOTICED THAT ON THE SITE PLAN THAT IT 
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STATED THERE WERE SEVEN HOA LOTS. AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE SEVEN LOTS WERE. I ASSUMED INITIALLY THEY WERE THE A, B, C, D, E, F, AND THEN I COUNTED AND THERE WERE MORE THAN SEVEN AND B WAS TWICE, SO I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT. SO THE A, B, C, D, E, F IS GOING TO BE YOUR BLOCK NUMBERS. OKAY. SO IT SHOULD BE YOUR X LOTS. SO YOUR 17 X YOUR 28 X. THERE'LL BE TWO 40 FOOT BUFFERS ALONG COUNTRY CLUB. SO THE SEVEN INCLUDES THE DETENTION. THE 17. YEAH THE SEVEN. OH YEAH HOA LOTS INCLUDES THE DETENTION. YEAH. THERE'S NOT SEVEN HOA LOTS OR WHAT I MEAN IS YEAH THE HOA IS STILL MAINTAINING THIS. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY. I JUST MEANT THAT THERE'S NOT FLAT LOTS. THERE'S THEY'RE BEING USED FOR DETENTION. CORRECT. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. YEP. OKAY. AND SO I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AND COME BACK WITH A QUESTION. ONCE I FIND THE X'S THAT'LL MOVE ME ON. THE QUESTION FOR JASON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR. 
          JASON, THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE US. NOW, IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WILL THIS BE THEIR SITE PLAN OR WILL THIS COME BACK? NO, SIR. IT WILL. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. NO, I'LL, I'LL I'LL JUST REITERATE FOR COUNCIL HERE. THEY THEY'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY A TEST FIT IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT FOR IF YOU DO BUILD OUTS OF CONSTRUCTION. BUT THIS IS I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME COME THROUGH THAT ASKED FOR A PLAT AND ZONING. THIS IS NOT US APPROVING ANY SORT OF PLAT ON FINAL DETENTION LOCATIONS AMOUNTS. THIS IS SIMPLY THE ZONING ITSELF. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLETE. THE ENGINEERING AND STAFF OF COURSE WILL REVIEW IT. AND WE I KNOW WE GET EXPERT OPINIONS, DOUBLE CHECKS, SO TO SPEAK, ON THOSE CALCULATIONS AND WHAT'S PRESENTED. SO THAT WOULD STILL COME BACK THROUGH FOR APPROVAL IN THE FORM OF A PLAT THROUGH P AND Z. AND THEN I STILL BELIEVE THEY STILL COME TO COUNCIL AS WELL. SO THOSE WOULD STILL COME BACK THROUGH ONCE THEY ACTUALLY HAD A SITE PLAN. SO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IS ALL WE WOULD BE APPROVING RIGHT NOW. NO, THERE'S TONIGHT WOULD BE WRITING THE ZONING OR WRITING THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS TIED TO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS CHECKING ON. AND THEN THE YEAH, IN TWO WEEKS, ASSUMING WE CAN GET ALL THIS WORK DONE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED THIS EVENING, I WILL PRESENT TO COUNCIL IN TWO WEEKS THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS, BUT THEY'LL BE TIED TOGETHER. OKAY. SO THE NUMBER OF LOTS IS THAT DICTATED OR JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. YES, SIR. OKAY, OKAY. WHEN HE MENTIONED A MAXIMUM OF 181. WELL, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING AT. THAT NUMBER IS JUST BASED ON THEIR ABILITY TO PUT AS MANY 10,000 SQUARE FOOT STRAIGHT ZONING LOTS AS THEY CAN, WHICH IS WHY THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT THEY PROBABLY WON'T. THEY'LL BE FIVE, SIX, SEVEN SHORT OF THAT. WHEN EVERYTHING IS SAID AND DONE. MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME SIR. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. I GUESS I KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT THIS UP. LOOKS LIKE THE HOA ON THE PROPERTY IS IN AGREEMENT TO EVEN HAVE SOME SORT OF A CROSS ACCESS OR A GATE OF SOME SORT. ARE WE, FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT? ARE WE AGAINST THE GATE? DO WE WANT THAT GATE WITH THE LOCK ON, OR WE WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO HAVE OUR THE CITY'S THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE IS A STRAIGHT OPEN STREET. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE FROM A MEMBER OF HOA THAT WE HEARD EARLIER FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT TO HAVE THAT. SO. THE HOA REQUEST IS FOR IT TO BE THEY'D RATHER HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESS GATE. OKAY. SO IT WOULD HAVE A KNOX BOX FOR EMERGENCY BUT NOT AVERAGE CARS OR REGULAR CARS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU MAYOR, I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP LOCATING THE SEVEN LOTS. UNLESS YOU DON'T. UNLESS. UNLESS WE'RE LEAVING IT AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND JUST IF I CAN BE BOLD. YEAH, JUST FOR A SECOND. THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN AGAIN. 
          OKAY, I GET IT. I JUST THE LOTS WILL BE THE REQUIRED 40 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ALONG COUNTRY CLUB AND ALONG MCMILLAN. AND THEN THERE WILL BE A COUPLE OF DETENTION LOTS. SO 123 OKAY. SO AND THAT THAT HELPS. SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IN 59 ACRES WHERE'S OUR GREEN SPACE. LIKE WHERE ARE OUR PARKS. WHERE IS OUR, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUNDS. WHERE'S OUR WHERE'S OUR STUFF. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING AT FOR THE THAT'S WHY THOSE THINGS MATTER TO ME. BECAUSE I'M AT WAIT A MINUTE. WE'RE WE'RE FILLING IT ALL WITH HOUSES AND WE'RE NOT GIVING THE WE'RE NOT GIVING THE RESIDENTS ANYTHING IN THEIR AREA. OKAY, I CAN ANSWER THAT. OKAY. IN GENERAL, THEY WILL BE CONTRIBUTING 2524 I CAN'T REMEMBER $2,500. EACH HOUSE WILL GO TO THE PARKLAND 
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DEDICATION FEE, AND THAT WILL IMPROVE COMMUNITY PARKS THAT ARE AROUND. IT TURNS OUT THAT MOST COMMUNITIES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS THAT EVERYBODY LIKED. 1020 WELL, 20, 30 YEARS AGO, MOST FOLKS WOULD RATHER THEY TAKE THEIR KIDS TO GO PLAY SOCCER. THEY TAKE THEM TO GO PLAY LACROSSE, FOOTBALL, WHATEVER, THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO CONTRIBUTE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THE MATH TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT. BUT THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ON HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. AND NO TRAILS. NO, I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT EVERY OTHER PD OR EVERY, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE. THERE'S STUFF WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT EVEN IF IT'S NOT A BIG PARK, THAT IS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YES, SIR. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S I'M NOT MISSING. YOU'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING. OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY THEY PRESENTED IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THEY CAN STILL PUT THAT IN IF THEY LIKE A PARK. 
          COMMUNITY PARK IS A USE THAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT WITHIN STRAIGHT ZONING. SO THEY COULD COME BACK WITH A PLAT THAT SHOWS A COUPLE OF THOSE GONE, AND THEY DECIDE, BECAUSE THEY DECIDE THAT THE MARKET HAS DICTATED THAT THE FOLKS THAT THEY THINK ARE GOING TO BUY THOSE HOMES WOULD WANT A COMMUNITY PARK. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE JUST NOT SHOWING ONE. YES, SIR. OKAY. COUNCILMAN STRANG, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MOST OF THEM WERE ANSWERED IN THE COURSE OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT THERE IS THERE IS ONE IN TERMS OF BECAUSE IT'S BEEN GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ASIDE FROM THE, THE ITEM IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. IF WE WANTED TO DO WE NEED TO AMEND IT NOW FROM WHAT, A PUNCH STRAIGHT THROUGH OR EVEN WITH AN EMERGENCY ACCESS. SO WE JUST WAIT TILL LATER BECAUSE IT'S JUST I BELIEVE THAT THE WAY THAT THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GET LET THEM GET FARTHER ALONG IN THEIR ENGINEERING. SO MY PLAN THAT'S NOT TONIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. MY PLAN IS THAT I WILL WORK WITH THEM. AND WHEN YOU GET THE DA YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING THAT HAS BOTH. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ONE OR THE OTHER OKAY. AND SO WE CAN HOLD THEM TO EITHER PUTTING IN THE CULVERT OR PUNCHING THE STREET THROUGH WITH THE EMERGENCY. WELL WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT THEN. YOU'RE NOT FIGURING ANY OF THAT STUFF OUT TONIGHT. NO STRAIGHT ZONING. 
          YES, SIR. EXCELLENT. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, I SYMPATHIZE. I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF STUFF BUILT UP EITHER. I GREW UP IN A SMALL TOWN. I'LL PROBABLY BE RETIRING THREE HOURS AWAY FROM A MAJOR AIRPORT. BECAUSE THE REALITY IS, IF YOU LOOK, I'LL SAY IT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE TWO HOURS IN FRONT OF IT OR IN FRONT OF INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, THIS IS WHAT'S COMING TO YOUR TOWN. SHERMAN, DENNIS AND ALL THAT STUFF. I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TRAVELING FOR WORK. I SEE IT EVERYWHERE, CLEAR CUT. AND IN SOUTH CAROLINA. IT'S DISGUSTING. HOWEVER, SOMETHING'S GOING TO END UP HERE ONE DAY. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ONE DAY, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT EVEN A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO PUT IN SOMETHING CONTROVERSIAL. MAYBE THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION TO PUT SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HATE AND WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? SO. I'M SATISFIED WITH WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A GOOD CHOICE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO TABLE THE MOTION FOR JUST A SECOND SO I CAN GET CLARIFICATION AND GIVE DIRECTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SIDE. YEAH, I'LL AGREE TO THAT. 
          OKAY. BUT I WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR IT. WELL, WE'VE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO OR DON'T WANT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING. 
          SO I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN SPEAK ON THAT. THEN I WILL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR BACK FOR THE MOTION. SO THE TWO THINGS I SEE THAT WERE UNDER DISCUSSION, AND IF THERE ARE OTHERS, BRING THEM UP. BUT THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCIL AND THAT IS DO YOU AGREE WITH THE EITHER OR EITHER A, AN EXTENSION OF THE STREET WITH A KNOX BOX OR DOING THE INLET AFTER STAFF HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE ENGINEERING? ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH GIVING THAT DIRECTION TOWARDS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? I'M GOING TO START, COUNCILMAN MALIKI, BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER AND HOA ON THE OTHER SIDE. I THINK THEY CAN COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY CAN PRESENT TO US. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HOOVER, IF YOU YOU DIDN'T TURN ON THERE, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A STOP BOX ON OUR BOX. OKAY. WITH THE STREET CUT THROUGH. OKAY. BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MALIKI THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT. OKAY, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I'LL SUPPORT THE NOT BOX IN THE GATE EITHER OR. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. I WOULD SUPPORT THE KNOX BOX ON THE GATE, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, I ALSO WANT TO SEE THE FENCE IN THERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. AND RIGHT AS SOON AS I 
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FINISH ON THE KNOX BOX, THE EITHER OR OPTION. SO COUNCILMAN STRANG ON THE KNOX BOX. OPTION BOX IT. OKAY. AND ARE YOU GOOD WITH EITHER OR COUNCILMAN DUKE I'M GOOD WITH EITHER OR OKAY. SO THAT GIVES YOU THE DIRECTION THERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IS DECIDED IS THE BEST FIT FOR THEIR. SO MAYOR PRO TEM BRINGS UP AND OBVIOUSLY HAS STATED HIS OPINION. HE WOULD LIKE A PRIVACY FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE. COUNCILMAN STRANG, I'LL GO THIS WAY AND THEN COME BACK. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN DUKE, I AGREE, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT DONE HOLISTICALLY. SO I AGREE. YES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HOOVER, I AGREE. AND COUNCILMAN MALIKI. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE THERE AS WELL. AND I DO AGREE, I DON'T THINK YOUR PRODUCT IS NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THERE, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO BUY IT, AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN SOMEWHERE NEXT TO COUNTY PROPERTY, I KNOW MR. THORNBURG COULD SELL IT, AND THERE COULD BE AN RV PARK THAT GOES IN BEHIND THEM. I HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE, SO IT HELPS. IT HELPS KEEP NOT JUST MR. THORNBURG'S PROPERTY A LITTLE MORE PRIVATE, BUT IF HE DECIDES TO SELL AND SOMEONE PUTS THAT THERE, IT HELPS PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING. A COULD BE $1 MILLION HOME FROM GIVES THEM STILL A LITTLE MORE PRIVACY BEHIND THEM. SO CLARIFICATION WHETHER IT'S 6 FOOT OR 8 FOOT, IT WOULD BE EIGHT FOOT. THE SAME SAME THING AS THE NORTH SIDE. OKAY. SO THAT I THINK ANSWERS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR PICTURES. OKAY. PRO TEM. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT EXACTLY WHAT I THINK. I HEARD COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS STATE THAT THE FENCE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DRAWING THAT WE RECEIVED. SO IT'S A BOARD ON BOARD, EIGHT FOOT WITH A CAP TOP. IN ADDITION, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TOWERS, I MADE A COMMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TOWERS COMPLETELY REMOVED BEFORE ONE GRAIN OF DIRT IS MOVED ON THE SITE, OR ANY ENGINEERING ON THE SITE IS DONE PHYSICALLY. AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR ANYTHING. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDED. AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT ALREADY. YEAH. AS PART OF THE DEMO THERE'LL BE A DEMO PERMIT, SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE MACHINERY OUT THERE TO DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. OF COURSE. OKAY. SO THAT INCLUDED SO THAT INCLUDED IT. SO THE THREE THINGS ARE THE TOWER SPECIFICATIONS BEING WITH AT THE DEMO PERMIT TIME. AND THEN THE FENCE ON THE WEST SIDE IS MATCHING THE WHAT WAS FOR THE NORTH. AND THEN THE THIRD WAS THE EITHER OR SOLUTION EITHER THE KNOX BOX WITH THE STREET THROUGH OR THE INLET. BASED UPON ENGINEERING DISCUSSIONS. BEFORE I MOVE ON, OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? BECAUSE IF NOT, I WILL CEDE THE FLOOR BACK TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. QUESTION. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ABOUT THE MATERIALS. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS GOING TO HAVE THE MATERIALS. I HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SIR. BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ABIDE BY ALL SECTIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR BUILDING MATERIALS. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT 312 PAGE OR MINIMUM 812 PAGE. ALL OF THAT STUFF IS ALREADY PART OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          THIS IS. YES, SIR. YEAH, THIS WILL BE THIS WILL BE THE BRICK AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT WE CAN'T CURRENTLY ENFORCE EXCEPT VOLUNTEER. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT ITEM, JUST FOR REFERENCE, IT COMES THROUGH FIRST BEFORE THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS CONSIDERED. OKAY. 
          AND COUNCILMAN STRANG, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU'RE MAKING YOUR MOTION, IF YOU JUST SAY AS AMENDED, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME AS FAR AS IF AS LONG AS THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR MISS STORM AND THE MAYOR. MISS STORM, WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? OKAY. VERY WELL. I WILL ANNOUNCE MY MOTION TO AS AMENDED. OKAY, SO THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED. DO I HAVE A SECOND MAYOR PRO TEM? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE AS AMENDED. 
          COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL 
          [2. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Single  Family - 10 District (SF-10/24) to Townhouse District (TH) on 5.52 acres to allow for single-family attached  development. Property generally located on the northwest corner of West Brown Street and Sanden  Boulevard (ZC 2024-13). ]
MOVE TO ITEM TWO THIS EVENING, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TEN DISTRICT SF 1024 TO TOWNHOME DISTRICT ON 5.52 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY. 
          GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST BROWN STREET AND SAND AND BOULEVARD. 
          ZONING CASE 2024 DASH 13 MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU MAYOR. LET ME GO. NOPE, THAT'S THE WRONG ONE. 
          THERE WE GO. SO THIS THE APPLICANT IS ASKED. THIS IS ON THE AS MENTIONED, IT'S THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BROWN AND SAND. AND THIS IS JUST SOUTH OF THE RESERVOIR NUMBER FIVE. AND THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR STRAIGHT ZONING SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE JUST HAD. AND BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR TOWNHOME ZONING. AND THEY ARE MEETING ALL THE MINIMUM 
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REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY EXCEPTIONS OR VARIANCES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A OPEN SPACE LOT THAT IS FOR, TO BE FAIR, IS MOSTLY WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO IT WOULDN'T BE BUILDABLE ANYWAY. THEY'RE PROVIDING THREE ENTRANCES AND THREE EGRESS EXITS AS REQUIRED BY THE FIRE. WE DID MAIL NOTICES TO 16 OWNERS WITHIN 200FT. WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES BACK, EITHER IN FAVOR OR AGAINST, AND P AND Z DID RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE ZONING AS REQUESTED. 4 TO 0. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING, BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL PROBABLY HANDLE MOST OF THOSE. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO ASK IN LOOKING AT THE MAP HERE. YES, SIR. I DON'T KNOW IS THE SLASH PART OF THE MAP. THEY'RE CONSIDERED PART OF THEIR PROPERTY. NO, SIR. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF IT WITHIN THE RESERVOIR AND DIFFERENT EASEMENTS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. I HAVE A IF YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. OH, KIND OF ANTICIPATED A FEW QUESTIONS COMING UP ON THAT. SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS OPEN. SO THERE'S A SCREENSHOT. THEIR PROPERTY IS BASICALLY THIS AREA RIGHT AROUND THAT, THAT KIND OF TREE LINE AND THE HASHED AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE BOUGHT. AND IT'S UP STARTS A NORTH OF THAT TREE LINE. OKAY. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE FROM OUR PARKLAND THAT THERE'S NOT A DESIRE TO PURCHASE THAT AT THIS TIME, WE DID JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND PLANNING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PURCHASE, IT OBVIOUSLY MAKES SENSE FOR SOMETHING TO GO IN. IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR 1024, WHICH, AS WE DISCUSSED, IS TECHNICALLY LISTED IN OUR MEDIUM DENSITY AND TOWNHOMES, IS MOVING IT TO HIGH DENSITY. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT LOCATION. MY CONCERN IS JUST CONTINUING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY IN THAT AREA. WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY MADE AN AGREEMENT TO INCREASE DENSITY NEARBY. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. WE'VE IMPROVED THE PARKS AND THINGS ACROSS THE STREET. THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT, IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE REQUESTS TO PUT HIGH DENSITY IN ALONG BROWN AND. I'M JUST GOING TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THIS THIS ISN'T GOING FROM OPEN SPACE TO 1024. NOW IT'S UNDER SIX ACRES. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2828 POTENTIAL HOMES. THE LAST ONE WAS, YES, 170, BUT IT'S ALMOST 60 ACRES. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO THE MATH, THAT WOULD BE CLOSE TO ALMOST 300 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY WE JUST LOOKED AT FOR THE DENSITY IMPACT THAT IT HAS. 
          SO FOR ME, THAT IS MY I'M JUST GOING TO STATE THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THIS REQUEST. I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO DO SOMETHING AND NOT KEEP IT OPEN, BUT I THINK 1024 IS A REASONABLE OPTION. I KNOW YOU CAN'T FIT AS MANY PEOPLE IN, BUT OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN. SO YES, SIR IT IS. YES, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD AT LEAST ONE PEOPLE WHO WAS SEEKING TO SPEAK OR ONE INDIVIDUAL. SO MISS STORM, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD TO SPEAK AND ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO SO AT THIS TIME. I WILL START WITH THE FORM THAT I'VE HAD TURNED IN FIRST, AND THIS IS SANDRA FISHER. OKAY. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US, PLEASE. MY NAME IS SANDRA FISHER. I RESIDE IN ALLEN, 1520 STREAMS WAY. I AM A REAL ESTATE INVESTOR AS WELL AS A REAL ESTATE AGENT. AND WHENEVER I SAW THAT THIS WAS COMING UP ON THE AGENDA, I JUST WANTED TO DROP IN AND JUST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THIS WILL BE A GREAT ATTRACTION FOR WYLIE YOUNG COUPLES AND OLDER COUPLES. I KNOW THAT IT'S 700 TO 1 MILLION, BUT YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY YOUNG COUPLES I COME ACROSS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE HOMES THAT AGE. I MEAN, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT. ANYWAY, I THINK THAT THESE WILL BE I JUST THINK IT'D BE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT FOR THIS, FOR WYLIE. AND JUST WANTED 
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TO SAY THAT I'M FOR IT AND REQUEST THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. SO WITH THAT, THAT IS THE ONLY FORM THAT I'VE HAD TURNED IN THIS EVENING. I WILL NOW OPEN IT TO ANY MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENT, OR ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT WHO WISH TO SPEAK. SO IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US, PLEASE, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHICH TO ADDRESS COUNCIL. JACKIE TOBER, ALSO KNOWN AS JACQUELINE WALTERS, 635 LEGEND TRAIL, WYLIE, TEXAS, 75,009 EIGHT. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT YOU THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEGATIVE TO MAKE IT HIGH DENSITY. 
          HOWEVER, LET'S THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS SPACE IS. IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS BROWN FROM THE REC CENTER. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS MANY HOMES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CHILDREN, TEENAGERS. THEY'RE ALREADY WALKING FROM BIRMINGHAM FARMS. LET THEM WALK A LITTLE CLOSER AND GIVE THEM A PLACE TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES. IT'S A TOWNHOME. IT'S SANDIN AND BROWN. SO YOU CROSSED BROWN. YOU GO ACROSS THE STREET INTO THAT BIG OPEN FIELD. THAT'S PLENTY OF SPACE TO HAVE GREENERY, PARKS, RECREATION AND EXPANSION FOR THE CITY PARKS. THIS IS A DORMANT AREA THAT HAS HAD NOTHING THERE. I THINK THAT IT IS AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY. NOBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING WITH IT AT THIS TIME, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD ONLY BRING MORE AMAZING FAMILIES TO OUR AMAZING TOWN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE, IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO STEP FORWARD NOW TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO SO AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT. 
          NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR. I CAN APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ONE OF THEM. AND THAT IS THE COMMENT THAT THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT THAT TERM GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT IN FRONT OF US. AND EVERY TIME WE'RE ASKING, EVERY TIME I ASK THE BUILDER WHAT AFFORDABLE MEANS OR WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE UNIT IS, IT SEEMS TO BE IN LINE WITH THE SAME THING THAT OUR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ARE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, FOR THE RECORD, THAT THERE'S NOWHERE WITHIN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY COUNCIL THAT STATES THE AFFORDABILITY OF THIS PROPERTY OR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO MOVE IN OR ANYTHING. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR THE PASSION OF YOUR COMMENTS, BUT TO STATE THAT SOMETHING IS AFFORDABLE WITHOUT HAVING ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT IS LOOSELY, IT'S A LOOSE ASSUMPTION THAT REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY THIS GOES, COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S FEELINGS WITHIN THE PUBLIC. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, SO I DO WANT TO OPEN IT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM THAT YOU WOULD HAVE. COUNCILMAN STRAIN, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. IT DOES SEEM LIKE A RATHER HIGH DENSITY AREA RIGHT THERE. IT'S IN A CHALLENGING SPOT, BUT CURRENTLY IT'S STRAIGHT RESIDENTIAL ZONING. I MEAN, I COULD BE INTERESTED IN STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT I JUST DON'T REALLY SEE A TOWNHOME AS MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE HERE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MIGHT STAND ON MY OWN ISLAND ON THIS ONE ONLY BECAUSE OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S AROUND IT AND WHAT THE POSSIBLE USES ARE ON IT. WITH THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT NOW, AND WITH THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. AND THEN THE. INABILITY TO DEVELOP THE LAND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE FLOOD AREA WITH THE POND AND ALL THAT, THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THAT IT MIGHT BE ONE OF FEW OPTIONS ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M A HARD NO, I'M NOT A HARD YES, BUT I'M DEFINITELY NOT A HARD NO JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT ELSE IS AROUND IT IN THE FUNCTIONALITY OF IT. OKAY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER LEACH. LOOKING AT OBVIOUSLY THE FUTURE LAND PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED LATELY. AND BEING THAT IT'S ON THE GROUND VERY CLOSE TO 78 TO COUNTRY CLUB BEING THAT IS A MAJOR PIECE THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE IS COMING UP THERE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE 
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THAT'S COMING ON COUNTRY CLUB. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S TOO MUCH DENSITY TO THE PROPERTY, TOO MUCH. THERE'S TOO MANY. TOO MANY APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOMES PER SE IN A SMALL CONDENSED SPACE THAT ALL COMING INTO BROWN STREET. IT JUST MAKES IT VERY, VERY UNATTAINABLE FOR ME AT LEAST. SO I TEND TO AGREE WITH MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM AND OTHERS THAT SPOKE BEFORE ME. I FEEL LIKE A BETTER USE OF IT IS STRAIGHT ZONING LIKE WE JUST APPROVED EARLIER, WITH A LOWER DENSITY OR COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OPTION, HOPEFULLY DOWN THE LINE. OKAY, SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE SEEKING TO WEIGH IN. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN STRING. THANK YOU MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN DUKE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I SECOND. OKAY, WE DO HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO DENY COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE 
          [3. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from  Planned Development 2022-06 (PD 22-06) to Commercial Corridor and Commercial Corridor - Special Use  Permit (CC & CC-SUP) on 5.43 acres to allow for a drive-through restaurant use and commercial uses.  Property located at 2310 W. FM 544 and 2320 W. FM 544 (ZC 2024-12).]
WITH COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AGAINST THE. THE REQUEST IS DENIED. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 2020 2-06 PD 2020 2-06 TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT CC AND CC ON 5.43 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT USE AND COMMERCIAL USES. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2310 WEST FM 544 AND 2320 WEST. FM 544. ZONING CASE 20 2412 MR. HASKINS THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M BUSY THIS EVENING. YES, SIR. I'M ONLY HALFWAY DONE. ANYWAY, SO THIS ITEM SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, BUT IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS, IS THAT THE HOSPITAL WHEN IT WAS BUILT, WAS BUILT WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND THE EPISCOPAL CHURCH OF DALLAS HAS SLOWLY SOLD OFF ALL OF THAT PROPERTY. THEY FIRST SOLD IT OFF TO RAWS, WHICH, IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF A PD MODIFICATION THAT ALLOWED FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING, WHICH WE HAVE THE INCOME ADJUSTED 55 AND OLDER 200 UNIT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING UP BEHIND THE HOSPITAL. SO THEY WERE LEFT WITH THIS FRONTAGE PIECE. AND VICTORY WHO HAS IS WORKING ON A PROJECT RIGHT NOW ON BIRMINGHAM AND 78 IN THE CITY OF WYLIE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S LEFT OVER, THAT'S DEVELOPABLE. AND WHY YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR WE'RE BASICALLY TAKING THIS WHAT'S LEFT? THE PROPERTY THAT'S LEFT DIVIDED INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS, PUT IN AN SP ON ONE TO ALLOW ZONING A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, PUTTING AN SP ON IT TO ALLOW FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH THAT YOU SEE THE SMALLER BUILDING AND THEN LEAVING THE OTHER LOT AS JUST STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, WHICH THEY PLAN ON JUST STRAIGHT ZONING. AND THEY HAVEN'T INDICATED ANY. RESIDENTS OR APPLICANTS OR, YOU KNOW, TENANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING YET. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR IS TO BASICALLY TAKE THAT ONE LOT THAT'S LEFT OVER, DIVIDE IT INTO TWO ZONING, BOTH COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, AND THEN PUT A SNP ON THE ONE FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE DID SEND OUT SEVEN NOTICES AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY EITHER FOR OR AGAINST, AND P AND Z DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL 4 TO 0. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE REFERENCE TO OR IS IT CHANGING FROM A PD THAT WAS PART OF BAYLOR. YES. SO THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE PD. I JUST SAW THAT WRITTEN IN THERE, AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT THAT HAD TO DO WITH REMOVING THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY OR PROPOSING TO REMOVE THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THE PD, BECAUSE THE PD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING PER SE. IT KIND OF IT TALKS ABOUT THE HOSPITAL AND THE RAWS APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND SO WE FIGURED THAT'S, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL ZONING. JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE PD WOULD BE THE BEST OVERALL AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO AMEND THE PD, WHICH WOULD JUST MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED. AND TO FURTHER CLARIFY THIS SECTION, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO READ IT HERE WITH THE LINES YES, SIR, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SPLIT IN ALMOST HALF. IT KIND OF COMES DOWN AND JOGS AROUND. YES, SIR. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE RIGHT THROUGH HERE. YES. YES, SIR. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT SIDE IS APPROVING AN SUP. YES, SIR. BUT DOES THAT APPROVE THE SUP FOR WHAT SHOWS AS BLANK SPACE ON HERE. SO ARE WE GETTING A BLANKET APPROVAL THAT COULD HAVE THREE MORE. YEAH. I MEAN IT IS A 
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CREEK AND IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN. SO. SO THE CHANCE OF THE CHANCE OF GETTING ADDITIONAL IN THERE IS VERY, VERY LOW. YEAH. IT'S NEVER ZERO, BUT. BUT YEAH UNTIL THE RIGHT ENGINEER DOES IT. YEAH. SO OKAY SO THE WAY THE SUP IS WRITTEN IT SAYS FOR A DRIVE THROUGH NOT FOR DRIVE THRUS. OKAY. WELL IF SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO COME BACK, WE WOULD STILL REQUIRE THEM TO GET AN ISSUE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO. IF FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING CHANGED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT APPROVING THREE KIOSKS LOCATIONS IN A ROW. NO, NOT AGAINST KIOSKS. IT JUST CAUSES TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITH EVERYONE COMING IN AND OUT. SO IF IT SAYS A THAT MAKES ME MORE COMFORTABLE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO. YES, SIR. SO MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH. JASON ON THE ON THE REQUEST FOR DRIVE THROUGH, THAT'S ON THE 2380 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT LOOKS LIKE THE WRAPAROUND COMES BETWEEN THE PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE, THEN BACK AROUND THE BUILDING AND THERE'S AN EXIT LANE. THERE'S A 12 FOOT LANE AND A TEN FOOT LANE. SO YOU GOT A 12 FOOT LANE. THAT'S A DRIVE THROUGH LANE. YES, SIR. AND THEN THE TEN FOOT IS THE EXIT LANE. CORRECT. YOUR ESCAPE LANE. YES, SIR. OKAY. THE ESCAPE LANE. SO THAT WOULD ONLY ALLOW FOR ONE DRIVE THROUGH ON THAT BUILDING, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO A SINGLE DRIVE THROUGH WOULD BE THE REQUEST. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I SEE THAT THEY'RE CALLING BUILDING TWO FUTURE BUILDING. YES, SIR. AND THAT THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING THE LOT IN ORDER, I'M ASSUMING TO BUILD BUILDING ONE FIRST WITHOUT HAVING TO COMMIT TO BUILDING. BUILDING TWO AT THE TIME. AND THE WAY THAT THE PROPERTY LINE IS DIVIDED, I DON'T SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR FIRE LANE ACCESS. ARE THEY DOING A SHARED EASEMENT AGREEMENT OR THEY DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO END UP BEING ABLE TO DO THERE? I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN THEY PRESENT THE SITE PLAN AND THE PLAT TO ENGINEERING AND PLANNING, THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING IS USABLE AND FULLY ACCESSIBLE TO PUBLIC SAFETY, WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY BUILD, HOW MUCH THEY BUILD IS HERE, UP HERE. OKAY. YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? I CAN ANSWER THE TIMING. I DIDN'T SEE BOBBY, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD BEGIN TO APPROVE THIS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DREW TARNOWSKI. I'M WITH CLAYMORE ENGINEERING, 1903 CENTRAL DRIVE, BEDFORD, TEXAS. WE'RE ACTUALLY PLANNING TO BUILD BUILDING TWO. FIRST. THE REASON IT SAYS FUTURE BUILDING ON HERE IS WHEN WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED, WE THOUGHT WE WERE ONLY ASKING FOR AN SOP FOR THE SMALL DRIVE THROUGH PAD AND THEN IT DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS, IT CAME UP THAT WELL, THE EXISTING PD ONLY SPOKE TO MEDICAL AND NOT COMMERCIAL, SO THAT PULLED THAT INTO. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S AWESOME. I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT. EASEMENT AGREEMENT, HELP ME WITH MY CORRECT WORDS, CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT BETWEEN THESE TWO LOTS. IF WE'RE GOING TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOTS. 
          IT'LL BE PLATTED, OKAY. IT WOULD BE PLATTED, AND WE WOULD BE PLANNING ON BUILDING THE ENTIRE FIRE LANE IN PHASE ONE. YEAH. AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT IS LOCKED IN WHERE THEY CAN'T CHANGE IT BECAUSE SEPARATE BUYERS LATER. NO ISSUES IN THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? I HAD. NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT WE HAVE ONLY ONE ENTRANCE TO THIS WHOLE SETUP. AND BEING THAT WE HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, COMING IN, GOING ALL THE WAY, WRAPPING AROUND, HAVING THE CARS COME IN THROUGH WHERE THE DRIVE THROUGH IS ENDING ON THE FIRST BUILDING, YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN BOTH OF MY AREAS RIGHT NOW AND SEEING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING ON THROUGH ON THE DRIVE THROUGH AND ONE ENTRANCE COMING IN AND NOT GOING THROUGH, I THINK IT REALLY CREATES A HOVIK AND NEAR ACCIDENTS. AND SO I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO HAVING ONE ENTRANCE ON BOTH SIDES. THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN INSIDE AND MAYBE TOWARDS THE END OVER THERE GOING OUTSIDE, BECAUSE I WILL NOT LIKE THIS WRAP AROUND. SO TO JUST ADDRESS THAT, COUNCILMAN MALIKI $1 DAYS DOESN'T COUNT. ANYWAY, THAT BEING SAID, WE DID. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH SIDE INTO THE RAWS. I MEAN, IT'S PLATTED AND THAT IS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. SO IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S AURORA'S PROPERTY, BUT THE WAY IT'S PLATTED, IT ALLOWS FOR THAT ACCESS. WHAT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS GO AROUND TO THE DUAL ACCESS POINT, WHICH IS FARTHER TO THE SOUTH EAST, AND ENTER OR EXIT THERE ALSO FROM THAT PROPERTY. THE REASON YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO ENTRANCES GOING ON TO 544 IS BECAUSE OF THE SPEED OF 544 AND THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTRANCES, OR MAYBE 
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HAVE A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT WITH MEDICAL. MY PROBLEM IS NOT THAT. MY PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. TWO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AROUND. THEY'RE GOING TO GO JUST IN THERE AND GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH THROUGH THE RESTAURANT AND GET OUT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF ISSUE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO ALL AROUND THE BUILDING. OKAY, I CAN SAY THIS ALSO THAT I'M TALKING FROM THE EXPERIENCE AND EVERYDAY KNOWLEDGE THAT I SEE EVERY DAY. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, I. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          YEAH. IS THERE A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH RAW PROPERTIES? YES, SIR. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT FOR YOU, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. SO SINCE I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE ASKING TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE US INTO A PUBLIC HEARING. SORRY. OH, NO. YOU'RE GOOD. EVERYONE WAS SPEAKING. I JUST SINCE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THAT'S TRYING TO WEIGH IN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO SO AT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY, WE CAN GET YOU TO FILL OUT A FORM. ACTUALLY, I CAN JUST ADD AND THREE TO HEAR IF YOU AGREE. 
          YES. OKAY. SO IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, JACKIE TOVAR, ALSO KNOWN AS JACQUELINE WALTERS 635 LEGEND TRAIL, WYLIE, TEXAS 75098. SO I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND TELL YOU GUYS I WAS AT THE PNC MEETING WHERE THEY APPROVED THIS AND THEY HAD SOME AMENDMENTS TO IT, AND I, I CAN'T FIND THE MINUTES OR AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, I DON'T DRINK ENOUGH WATER. SO I THINK THAT Y'ALL SHOULD REVIEW WHAT THE PNC SAID ABOUT THE TURN IN, BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY SPECIFIC DURING THE PNC MEETING. THEY ALSO HAD THAT SAME CONCERN ABOUT ONLY HAVING THE ONE PULL IN AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE SENIOR CENTER OR THE SENIOR APARTMENTS, IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF A I WANT TO SAY THAT THEY BROUGHT UP SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THEY'RE HAVING AN EMERGENCY AND THERE ONLY BEING ONE OUT. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND SAY, MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD REVIEW THAT BEFORE YOU ALL MAKE A DETERMINATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO WE'LL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBER, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE PRESENT HERE THIS EVENING WHO WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN IT BACK UP. MR. HASKINS, I BELIEVE YOU PROBABLY WERE AT THAT MEETING. NO. I SIT RIGHT THERE. OH, YEAH. WE'RE UP THERE. 
          NOT NOT SURE I WASN'T THERE, SO. BUT IF IT WAS, HOW WAS THAT CONCERN ADDRESSED OR HANDLED OR. 
          I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE MINUTES. I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING ADDRESSED. YEAH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT BEING TALKED ABOUT. SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO TO SEE IF THAT WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR NOT. OKAY. SO AND IF NOT, IF IT WAS, THEN I PROBABLY GAVE THE SAME ANSWER THAT I JUST DID TO COUNCILMAN MALIKI, THAT THERE'S BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDS ON 544 AND TEXDOT DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AS FAR AS ADDING ANOTHER ENTRANCE ON 544 AND THAT'S THAT IS A POINT TO MAKE. THAT 544 IS NOT A CITY STREET. IT IS HANDLED BY TEXDOT. SO THEY SET THE REGULATIONS ON SPACING FOR TURN, BEING ABLE TO TURN IN OR WHERE WE CAN PUT ENTRANCES AND EXITS. MAYOR PRO TEM HAS. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          QUESTION CAN CAN WE RECESS FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND GO LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY PNC? IS THAT OKAY? BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, BUT WE CAN ASK STAFF TO GO AND RESEARCH, I BELIEVE. MR. WE CAN RECESS. WE CAN RECESS. YES, BUT YOU COULD RECESS IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO. ON THE AUDIO FOR THAT OR THAT. THERE SHOULD BE A TRANSCRIPT ON THE WEBSITE. SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A KEYWORD SEARCH TO SKIP TO IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. I DON'T SEE A TRANSCRIPT. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE A MEETING TRANSCRIPT MINUTES TRANSCRIPT ON THE JASON. WHAT MEETING WAS IT AT 218 218? NO. YEAH, IT WAS THE FOURTH. OH, I'M SORRY, THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. TWO, FOUR. YEAH. SO ON THE WEBSITE YOU WOULD HAVE TO CLICK ON THE VIDEO. AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE IN THE VIDEO TO THE FAR RIGHT, THERE'S A WORD THAT SAYS TRANSCRIPT. AND THEN YOU CAN DO A CONTROL F AND THEN DO A KEYWORD SEARCH. OH OKAY. WELL PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE US INTO A BRIEF RECESS AND ALLOW 
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JASON AND OTHERS TO TAKE A LOOK FOR WHATEVER COMMENTS FROM AN OFFICIAL STANDPOINT WERE MADE BY PLANNING AND ZONIN SO WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE US BACK INTO SESSION. AND MR. HASKINS, THANK YOU. MAYOR. AFTER GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE TRANSCRIPT AND TALKING TO OTHER FOLKS THAT WERE AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS WHAT WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS HAVING THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE LIVING IN THE 55 AND OLDER HAVE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THAT POSSIBILITY. THAT BEING SAID, WE CAN REQUIRE WITH THE ZONING TO HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, ASK RAWS TO BUILD IT OR ALLOW IT TO BE BUILT, BUT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING THERE AND TRY TO JUST MAKE IT EASIER. OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM, IF YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION. YEAH. LET ME MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS COMING OUT OF THE RECESS. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, I WILL BE OPEN TO A MOTION. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, AS PRESENTED WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT. THE SIDEWALK ACCESS WITHIN THE PROPERTY FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES BE REQUIRED. AND THAT'S THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN STRANG? YES, I WILL SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THAT MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMAN MALIKI OPPOSED, I DIDN'T I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO ANSWER. OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN PASSED THAT WAY. ARE THEY IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO THEM? OKAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH US ON THAT. THANK 
          [4. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Light  Industrial (LI) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LI-SUP) on 1.2 acres to allow for an Automobile  Repair Major use. Property located at 2751 Capital St. (ZC 2024-15).]
YOU. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, THAT MOVES US TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR THIS EVENING, WHICH IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LEE TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT ON 1.2 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. MAJOR USE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2751 CAPITAL STREET. ZONING CASE 2024 DASH 15. MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS TO ASK FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR AS IS REQUIRED ANYWHERE IN THE CITY FOR AUTOMOBILE COLLISION REPAIR. IT IS FOR A HARVEY'S COLLISION REPAIR. THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST COLLISION REPAIR CENTER. THAT AGAIN. HARVEY. HARVEY. HARVEY. HARVEY. HARVEY. HARVEY. YEAH. YEAH. FIRST TIME I THOUGHT ARBY'S. ARBY'S. AND I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THEN I THOUGHT YOU SAID RVS, AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF SPECIALIZED, RIGHT? AND. OKAY. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION. AND I JUST AFTER THREE ITEMS, I'M NOT SURE I SAID IT RIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING IT CORRECTLY. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO THESE TWO BUILDINGS ARE ALREADY BUILT. THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH SITE PLAN. AND ALL IN ALL THE THINGS. 
          HOWEVER, THE BUILDING, THAT'S FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS JUST ON THE LEFT, WHICH ACTUALLY BE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR A INDOOR COLLISION CENTER. LIKE I SAID, IT'S FOR HARVEST. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A SECURITY FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY AND A GATE WITH A KNOCKS BOX. 
          OBVIOUSLY TO GET INTO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING AND BUT WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OH, AND PNC DID RECOMMEND AN APPROVAL FOR ZERO. SORRY. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CORRECT. I KNOW FOR PNC, THERE WAS STILL A RESIDUAL RESPONSE THAT HAD BEEN IN THERE FROM CARDINAL DOWN THE STREET THAT WAS OPPOSED. BUT EVEN BEFORE THAT, THEY HAD STATED THAT HAVING HAD CONVERSATIONS, THEY WERE WITHDRAWING THEIR OPPOSITION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE. I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO JUST IN CASE ANYONE SAW IT AT PNC AND THEN SEES THE LETTERS IN HERE, IT'S BECAUSE THEY ASKED TO HAVE IT REMOVED. THAT IS CORRECT. CHANGED THEIR POSITION. YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. SO, COUNCILMAN MALIKI. TWO THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT. SECURITY GATE AND SECURITY FENCE. IS THAT CHANGING OR IS THAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT FOOT FENCE UNSEEN FROM THE NEIGHBORS OF WHAT IS BEING IS GOING TO COME UP AND HE'LL COME UP AND ANSWER. 
          THE GATE ITSELF WILL BE WROUGHT IRON. YEAH. CORRECT. BUT THE FENCING ON IT. I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL. MATT MOORE, 301 SOUTH COLEMAN. PROSPER, TEXAS, 75078. HERE 
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TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF HARVEY'S. THE PLAN THAT WE ENVISIONED AND WHAT WE PROPOSED TO PNC FOR FENCING WAS, AS JASON ALLUDED TO, WAS A WROUGHT IRON GATE THAT BASICALLY LINES UP WITH THAT BACK CORNER OF THE BUILDING. BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST VISIBLE FROM CAPITAL STREET. AND THEN FROM THERE WE WOULD TRANSITION TO CHAIN LINK. IF YOU'RE OUT THERE. WE HAVE A BUILDING IMMEDIATELY TO OUR WEST THAT REALLY SCREENS THAT THAT AREA. YOU HAVE THE CHURCH IN THE BACK. 
          ALL OF THE FENCING IN THAT AREA IS ALL CHAIN LINK. NOW. AND SO THE PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WROUGHT IRON GATE, HAVE THE RETURN TO TRANSITION BACK AND THEN GO TO CHAIN LINK. THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT'S THERE TODAY. THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED. WILL YOU BE OPPOSED TO DIFFERENT KIND OF FENCING CHURCHES THERE TODAY? TOMORROW WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT THAT POTENTIALLY MAY WANT TO BE SCREENED AWAY FROM IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH. OKAY. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS WILL THERE BE CARS PARKED OUTSIDE OR WORKED ON? I KNOW ON THE COMMENTS IT SAID THAT NO CARS WOULD BE WORKED OUTSIDE, BUT THAT'S CORRECT. WILL THERE BE PARKED OVERNIGHT? ALL VEHICLES WILL BE SCREENED IN THAT STORAGE AREA THAT ARE KEPT OUTSIDE, THAT ARE NOT INSIDE GETTING WORKED ON. SO THEY WILL ALL BE SCREENED AND SECURE AREA FOR THE VEHICLES THAT AREN'T BEING, LIKE I SAID, WORKED ON INSIDE THE BUILDING. SO THEY WILL BE PARKED OVERNIGHT THERE AND. CORRECT. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR OPPOSITION. I'LL SAVE MY LAST PIECE. MY ONLY CONCERN, AND MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT IT HAS A EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCING TO SCREEN THE VEHICLES THAT WILL BE STANDING THERE OVERNIGHT AND WHATNOT ALL AROUND. OKAY, SO I'LL OPEN IT UP IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A RESPONSE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I WE FELT LIKE THE IN MY OPINION THE I MEAN WE CAN DO EITHER. YOU KNOW I THOUGHT THE, THE WROUGHT IRON WAS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE. BUT IF A WOOD FENCE IS SOMETHING THAT'S DESIRED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY ENTERTAIN. 
          WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT JUST THIS PROJECT. I'M THINKING ALL AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHOLE CITY AS A WHOLE. SO I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT ONE YEAR TERM. 
          I'M THINKING ABOUT TEN. NO, I UNDERSTOOD AND AGAIN, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF HONOR SOME OF THE FENCING IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH PARKING ALL OVERNIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ASK IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. MAYOR PRO TEM YEAH, I'M LESS FUSSED ABOUT THE FENCE FACING TOWARDS THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AS I AM TOWARDS THE CHURCH. I THINK THAT A DIVISION BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THIS BUSINESS WOULD BE I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD NEIGHBOR KIND OF THING TO DO. THEY WON'T BE PEEKING IN YOUR FENCE, YOU WON'T BE PEEKING IN THE BACK OF THE CHURCH KIND OF THING. BUT I JUST THINK THAT WOULD HELP TO DO SOME NOISE ABATEMENT AS WELL, SO THAT THAT WAY DURING THE DAY, IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING ON, IT WOULDN'T BE WOULDN'T. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK NOISE IS A CONCERN, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FENCING. YEP. I AGREE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FIND A CONSISTENT SCREEN. WHAT IF YOU PROPOSE A TYPE OF SCREEN FENCE? AGAIN, I'M OKAY WITH AN EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE. I MEAN A WOODEN FENCE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE. AND THEN HAVE THE WROUGHT IRON GATE ACCESS INTO IT. SOUNDS GREAT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. IF THE OWNER IS OKAY WITH THE BOARD ON BOARD, THEN I'M OKAY WITH IT, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN MALIKI? IF YOU'RE OKAY, I CAN MAKE A MOTION. OH, PUBLIC HEARING I DO. 
          YEAH, I'VE GOT TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING STILL, SIR? A LOT OF PUBLIC, SO. YEP, YEP. FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO SO AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. AND WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO, COUNCIL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. AND IF NOT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE CHANGE ON THE FENCING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? I'LL SECOND IT. WE DO HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND. AS STATED. COUNSEL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING WITH US. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 
          [5. Consider, and act upon, Resolution No. 2025-07(R) casting a nomination for a candidate for the Board of  Directors of the Rockwall Central Appraisal District.]
NUMBER FIVE THIS EVENING. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025. 
          DASH 07R CASTING A NOMINATION FOR A CANDIDATE FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE ROCKWALL 
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CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. MISS. STORM. YES. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ROCKWALL COUNTY CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT REACHED OUT AS THEY HAVE A VACANCY ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SO SINCE WE ARE A VOTING TAXPAYING ENTITY, WE CAN MAKE A NOMINATION FOR A CANDIDATE. IN YOUR PACKET AS A RESOLUTION, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC CANDIDATE. SO IF COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE A MEMBER TO PUT UP FOR NOMINATION, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE NO ACTION. OR IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, THEN WE WILL PASS THAT ON TO THEM. SO I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE TO NOMINATE AS YOU MUST RESIDE WITHIN, AND THAT IS ONE SMALL. I SAY SMALL ONE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN WYLIE THAT'S PART OF ROCKWALL. AND I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SERVE FROM THAT, FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO ANY OF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE WHO MIGHT WISH TO SERVE? WHO'S IN THAT ONE? ONE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S PART OF ROCKWALL COUNTY? I'M NOT SEEING ANY INDICATION. 
          SO ON THIS, WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING NO ACTION AND WE'LL SUBMIT. WE WILL NOT SUBMIT A NOMINATION. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. 
          [WS1. Discuss ordinances regarding smoke shops, retailers that sell smoke, vape, CBD, and related products, and  the use of those products within the City of Wylie.]
WE HAVE ONE WORK SESSION SCHEDULED. WORK SESSION NUMBER ONE IS TO DISCUSS ORDINANCES REGARDING SMOKE SHOPS, RETAILERS THAT SMELL SMOKE, VAPE, CBD AND RELATED PRODUCTS, AND THE USE OF THOSE PRODUCTS WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE. MISTER HASKINS, BACK AGAIN. YES, SIR. SO BACK IN DECEMBER 2024, WE HAD A WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT SMOKE SHOPS WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE. 
          AFTER THAT WORK SESSION, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE. IN ORDER TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. FOR ANYBODY WHO SMELLS, SMELLS, SMELLS, ANY KIND OF TOBACCO, CBD, VAPE, ANY KIND OF PRODUCT LIKE THAT. WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SO THAT BEING SAID, AFTER MUCH THOUGHT, WE THOUGHT THAT THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WAS TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WE DO WITH ALCOHOL PROVISIONS IS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN, WHAT DEFINES A SMOKE SHOP? WE'RE GETTING RID OF WHERE OUR PROPOSAL IS TO GET RID OF THE SMOKE SHOP USE AND JUST SAY ADD A SECTION, MUCH LIKE OUR ALCOHOL SECTION. THAT IS, IF YOU SELL THESE ITEMS, HERE ARE THE PROVISIONS YOU HAVE TO MEET. AND ONE OF THOSE PROVISIONS, THERE'S DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR ALCOHOL PROVISION. AND THEN ALSO IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR AN SUP. AND SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANYONE IN TOWN. 
          GOING FORWARD WHO DECIDES TO SELL THESE PRODUCTS TO COME BEFORE P AND Z AND COUNCIL FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND OR APPROVAL. OKAY. AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT JUST FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND ANYONE WHO ALREADY HAS A BUSINESS, WE CANNOT RETROACTIVELY CHANGE SOMETHING FOR SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY OPERATING, BUT THIS WOULD BE FOR ANYONE IN THE FUTURE. AND I ASSUME, LET'S SAY THERE'S A BUSINESS THAT GOES OUT OF BUSINESS AND CHANGES TO SOMETHING ELSE, OR CHANGES OWNERSHIP, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY OWNERSHIP CHANGES THE BUSINESS IN PLACE. I ASSUME IT'S THE CO LIKE OTHER SUPS. THEN THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK IF THEY HAD BEEN GRANDFATHERED. BUT AT THE CO CHANGES DOES THAT BRING THEM BACK. WHAT WHAT TRIGGERS THEM COMING IN TO GET THE SUP IF THEY'RE PREEXISTING. SO IF THEY'RE PREEXISTING AND A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP DOES NOT TRIGGER AN SUP BECAUSE THAT IS A CONTINUING USE. HOWEVER IF THAT IF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING IS GONE FROM THEY SAY THEY SMELL SELL SMOKE SHOP MATERIALS, NOW THEY GO TO SAY A GENERAL RETAIL THAT DOESN'T SELL THAT. THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN SIX MONTHS, A YEAR LATER AND WANTS TO DO THAT, OR THAT BUSINESS COMES IN AND IS SELLING GENERAL RETAIL AND DECIDES THEY WANT TO ADD THAT. THEN WE COULD LOOK AT, OKAY, SO YOU KIND OF ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH TWO ITERATIONS OF A CO, OKAY. BUT THE CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP COS THOSE DON'T THAT DOES NOT, THAT DOES NOT TRIGGER JUST OF THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL BUSINESS IN THE LOCATION CHANGES HOW IT'S OPERATING. YES. IT CHANGES WHETHER IT'S OFFERING THIS. YES SIR. OKAY. JUST SO OR IF THEY CURRENTLY DON'T AND THEN THEY WANT TO ADD. RIGHT. YES, SIR. OKAY. JUST JUST AGAIN SO THAT NOT JUST COUNCIL KNOWS BUT IT'S CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE MAY SAY, WELL, THIS ONE IS LOCATED WITHIN A CERTAIN RADIUS. WELL IT WAS THERE BEFORE WE PUT THIS IN PLACE. SO IT'S TO PREVENT FUTURE THAT WOULD WITHOUT IT COMING REQUIRE APPROVAL. YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. SORRY, MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO WHAT'S THE TRIGGER ON THIS, JASON? IN OTHER WORDS, IF I OWN A C STORE IN TOWN, WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE. AND THEN I DECIDED TO BRING IN VAPE PENS AND THC DRINKS AND GUMMIES AND THE WHOLE GAMUT AND ADD THEM TO MY COLLECTION. YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE TRIGGER? THAT WOULD TELL ME, HEY, BEFORE YOU DO ANY OF THAT AND ORDER ALL THAT INVENTORY, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE CITY FOR AN SUP. YES, SIR. SO 
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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS, IF IT'S SOMEBODY COMES IN FOR A CO, WE KNOW A MAJORITY OF THE KIND OF BUSINESSES WHO MAY END UP SELLING THESE. AND WE WILL GIVE THEM WARNING AHEAD OF TIME. HEY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO ANY OF THIS, YOU NEED TO HAVE AN SUP. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THAT BEING SAID, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN, I SAY THEY'RE DOING A FOOD STORE. HYPOTHETICALLY, I MAY NOT OR MY STAFF MAY NOT WARN THEM AHEAD OF TIME. HYPOTHETICALLY, THEY'RE DOING DONUTS. I'LL THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE, AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO DO IT AND FIRE DURING THEIR ANNUAL INSPECTION OR CODE ENFORCEMENT DURING A VISIT, OR OTHER CITY STAFF WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO AT LEAST WE SEE THEM DOING IT. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM. WE'RE GOING TO SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU GET AN SUP. HOPEFULLY THEY'LL YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT COMPLIANCE. THAT'S ALL WE WANT. 
          SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND IF WE DON'T GET COMPLIANCE, THEN WE'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE ON. SO IF YOU DON'T GET COMPLIANCE WHAT IS THAT CONVERSATION? WHAT DOES THAT CONVERSATION SOUND LIKE? THAT CONVERSATION SOUNDS LIKE MY BUILDING OFFICIAL CAN PULL YOUR CO AND YOU ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO DO BUSINESS IN Y. SO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE, OR DON'T DO BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY OF WYLIE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE LISTENING. WHILE CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP MAY NOT CHANGE IN NAME WOULD BECAUSE THE NAME IS TIED TO THE CO, CORRECT? NO, THAT IS INCORRECT, SIR. AND A BUSINESS THAT EXISTS, THEY CAN LIKE IF YOU HAVE A GAS STATION THAT'S NAMED XYZ AND SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT AND THEY CHANGE IT TO ABC GAS, THAT STILL WOULD NOT TRIGGER THIS. BECAUSE IT IS A CONTINUING USE. OKAY. 
          YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS THAT STOPS DOING THAT. AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND ADDS THAT AT A LATER DATE THAT HELPS CLARIFY IT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ONE EXCEPTION TO THAT WOULD BE IF THE SUP IS LINKED TO THE OWNER OF THAT BUSINESS. THAT IS CORRECT. THE GOING FORWARD. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN COUNCIL'S DESIRE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS STAFF WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT THEY THEY PUT IN THERE. RIGHT. SO YES GOING FORWARD. SO THEN IF ABC GAS STATION EXISTING TODAY RIGHT. SO IF ABC GAS STATION WAS OWNED BY SOMEBODY AND THEY SOLD IT AND BECAME DEAF GAS STATION, THE SUP I MEAN THE SUP. THE SUP GOES WITH THE OWNER. SO AS SOON AS THE OWNER SOLD IT, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND REAPPLY. THAT IS CORRECT FOR AN SUP AND A NEW CO. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, IS THERE A TIME FRAME OF WHAT MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM SAID ABOUT COMPLIANCE? HOW LONG DO WE GIVE THESE PEOPLE TO COMPLY WITH US BEFORE WE TELL THEM THE DOOR IS CLOSED? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE OUT THERE FOR FOREVER OR IT WON'T BE. IT REALLY I HESITATE TO GIVE AN EXACT TIME FRAME. OKAY. I LEARNED FROM MISTER STOWERS ON THAT. I'M JUST KIDDING. HEY, BUT I WILL SAY, LIKE, IF WE SEE MOVEMENT TOWARDS COMPLIANCE, MAY'S COMING FOR HIM, RIGHT? IF I SEE MOVEMENT TOWARDS COMPLIANCE, WE'LL. WE MIGHT GIVE SOMEBODY A LITTLE MORE TIME. IF WE SEE NONE, THEN WE MAY JUST, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH PROCEEDINGS. AND I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, NOT FOR ANYBODY. BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. SUP FOR PERSONALLY FOR ME SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH SMOKE SHOPS AND VAPES AND ALL THIS OTHER PLACES. YES, SIR. IF YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MESSAGE IS SENT LOUD AND CLEAR AND I THINK SUP SPEAKS FOR ITSELF OR THE NEW ONES, BUT EVEN FOR THE ONES THAT THINK THAT THEY WANT TO ADD TO THIS MESSAGE, SEND LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL NOT PLAY GAMES SPECIFICALLY WITH THAT SUP AND WITH THIS SMOKE SHOPS WHATEVER THAT THAT THAT IS SO. YES, SIR. SO AND I WANT TO I WANT TO ECHO THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO TARGET SOMEONE WHO'S DOING BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE KNOW FROM SPEAKING WITH THE ISD AND OUR SROS, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE THAT WE SEE WITH STUDENTS AT THIS TIME, I MEAN, IS VAPE PENS AND OTHER ISSUES. AND WE WANT TO WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS A COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD TO TRY TO ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE THINGS THAT ARE UNHEALTHY. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE AS BEST WE CAN ON SOMETHING THAT IS IMPACTING NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY, BUT YOUTH WHO ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS TO BEGIN WITH. YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT TARGETING ANY, ANY ONE'S BUSINESS, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND SPECIFICALLY OUR YOUTH. YES, SIR. BEYOND THAT, THERE WAS A QUESTION IN HERE ABOUT. IT'S ACTUALLY A TWO PARTER. YEAH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THIS PART THAT YOU SEE ON, ON 
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THE, ON THE BASICALLY MOST OF IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THAT'S A ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGE. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE TO GO TO PNC FOR RECOMMENDATION. WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. ASSUMING YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH WITH THE WAY THAT STAFF HAS WRITTEN THIS, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AS AN ORDINANCE AND IT WILL TAKE THE PLACE WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT SAID, THE LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS HAS TO DEAL WITH NOT THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THE CITY ORDINANCE. AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL. AND I WAS DIRECTED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL. THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING OUR CURRENT CITY ORDINANCE. RIGHT NOW, OUR CITY ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW SMOKING IN BASICALLY PUBLIC OWNED PLACES, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. I'M NOT GOING TO HIT EVERYTHING PERFECT, BUT THE PARK, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR CITY PARKS. THIS BUILDING, THE REC CENTER, YOU KNOW, THOSE SORT OF AREAS. AND THERE HAD POSSIBLY BEEN SOME DESIRE DUE TO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE CONCERNS, THAT MAYBE ADDING ALL PUBLIC PLACES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SEVERAL OTHER CITIES IN THE DFW AREA RESTRICT ANY PLACE WHERE PUBLIC COULD GATHER FOR EVEN IF IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, SUCH AS LIKE IF YOU GO TO A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT, YOU KNOW YOU THERE WOULD BE NO SMOKING WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THERE OR WITHIN 15FT OF THE ENTRANCE. IS THE NUMBER THAT SEEMS TO HAVE COME UP A LOT FROM THE DIFFERENT CITIES. IN MY RESEARCH. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY DESIRE FROM THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO HAVE STAFF DO FURTHER RESEARCH AND POSSIBLY COME BACK WITH AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY ORDINANCE ABOUT WHERE JUST SMOKING IS ALLOWED. AND THAT INCLUDES THE USE OF KEEPING IN MIND WHEN I SAY SMOKING, THAT'S VAPING AND THE USE OF CERTAIN CBD PRODUCTS OR CBD RELATED PRODUCTS. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, I WOULD BE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION TO CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE TO REMOVE SMOKING FROM INTERIOR SPACES AS WELL. OKAY. THANK THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SMOKE IF YOU WANT TO SMOKE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I HAVE TO SMOKE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I CONCUR WITH MAYOR PRO TEM. THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO CAUTION ON IS THAT. THERE'S SOME SORT OF. NOT RESTRICTING IF I CHOOSE TO BE IN THAT CONFINED SPACE WITH YOU WHILE YOU'RE SMOKING. IT'S A CHOICE THAT I HAVE. AND SPECIFICALLY IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SMOKE, AND IF I ASK MY WIFE, NOBODY WOULD SMOKE EVER IN MY LIFE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I CHOOSE TO BE IN THE PRESENCE OF THAT, THEN SHOULD BE MY DECISION. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WOULD ECHO MAYOR PRO TEM SENTIMENT IN THIS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, INSIDE SPACES AND ENTRANCES AND THAT IF THAT 15FT IS THE NORM, I'M GOOD WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT WANTING TO STAMP ALL YOU KNOW, AREAS, BUT IF WE CAN CONTROL WHERE PEOPLE ARE FUNNELING AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, AND THERE COULD BE A DESIGNATED SMOKING AREA OUTSIDE OF THAT. OKAY. BUT MY I'M AT THE MAYOR PRO TEM THAT I DON'T WANT TO FORCE SOMEBODY TO HAVE TO INHALE SOMETHING IF THEY DIDN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE COMING TO A PUBLIC BUILDING OR COME COMING TO AN AREA, THEY'RE GOING TO EAT IN A RESTAURANT, THAT KIND OF STUFF. I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT PROHIBITED WITHIN THE CITY. 
          OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN GOOD. I'LL GIVE MY OPINION ON IT REAL QUICK. THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF AN EXCEPTION, AS WE DO WITH AN SUP ALLOW, LIKE A TOBACCO STORE OR NOT TOBACCO STORE, LIKE A CIGAR SHOP. SO IF THERE'S A CIGAR SHOP THAT ALLOWS SMOKING ON PREMISE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WELL KNOWN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT. SO YEAH, AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME SORT OF RULE THAT CAN BE GRANTED FROM THE COUNCIL AROUND THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SPACES, I THINK WE COVER MOST OF THEM, BUT MAKING SURE WE'RE COVERING THEM AND THEN DEFINITELY WITHIN CERTAIN RANGES OF RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KNOW MANY PLACES I GO HAVE ALL THOSE RULES ABOUT NOT WITHIN YOU SEE THE SIGNS, NOT WITHIN 15FT OF A DOOR OR WHATEVER. AND THERE THERE ARE LIMITED NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE I THINK SOMEONE CAN GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT I THINK IT JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS CAN COME TO COUNCIL AND THEY CAN SAY, HEY, I WANT TO, I OWN XYZ AND I WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO SMOKE A CIGAR BECAUSE I'M A CIGAR SHOP AND WE REVIEW IT AND LOOK AT THE AREA AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND CAN AND CAN CASE BY CASE. THAT AND I JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW THE BEST WAY TO BUILD THAT IN. I 
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GOT IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS. COUNCILMAN STRANG. YEAH. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT HAS PUBLIC ACCESS, LIKE RETAIL STORES AND ALL THAT OTHER KIND OF STUFF. THERE'S OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS. YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'LL BUILD IN EXCEPTIONS. YOU KNOW, TELLING PEOPLE YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN YOUR HOME IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS, PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD BE ONE OF THEM. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT THE MAYOR HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT? IF YOU HAVE AN SUP FOR A SMOKE SHOP, OR YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A PLACE THAT WILL BE AN EXCEPTION, I WOULD EXPECT WE'LL BUILD THOSE INTO THE CIGAR SHOPS. I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS, RIGHT? YEAH, SURE. YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. 
          THANKS. OKAY. OKAY. SO I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN DUKE. I AGREE, AND I LIKE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT THE EXCEPTIONS. OKAY. SO, COUNCILMAN HOOVER, I DON'T THINK WE HEARD FROM YOU. I KNOW YOU, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT IF YOU DON'T CARE TO. I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE. YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT. OKAY. I'LL TAKE HIS. SO, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I SAID JUST A LITTLE BIT. YES, SIR. ON THE INTERIOR SPACES, TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE TO FOOD. AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONSUMING WHERE THEY SOMEWHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE TO A DEGREE BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE STUCK. I DON'T WANT TO LOCK PEOPLE DOWN THAT HAVE BUSINESSES THAT THEY CAN'T OPERATE THEIR OWN BUSINESS IN THEIR OWN MANNER, IN THEIR OWN WAY. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. YES, SIR. SO I'M MORE TRYING TO LOOK ON THE HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARD. AND IN REGARDS TO WHAT MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT CIGAR SHOPS OR WHATNOT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO WRITE SOMETHING IN THAT ALLOWS FOR THAT, WHERE AN INDUSTRIAL HYGIENIST ENDS UP BEING ABLE TO DESIGN A SYSTEM THAT WILL CLEAN THE AIR CORRECTLY. YES, SIR. WE HAVE THAT ALREADY FOR RESTAURANTS IN OUR ORDINANCE. 
          OKAY. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CUT AND PASTE IN THAT. WE'LL DO SOME REARRANGING. I'LL THROW IT AT THE CITY ATTORNEY. LET HIM LENGTHEN IT. YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HE DOES THAT HELPS CLARIFY MY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ENFORCEABLE DOCUMENT AND THEN BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. AND IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. AND TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING CITIES THROUGHOUT THE AREA TO SEE HOW THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT AND HOW THEY'VE WRITTEN IN EXCEPTIONS. JUST TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING UP WITH THE HEALTH STANDARDS AND THAT ARE KIND OF THROUGHOUT THE AREA. YES, SIR. SO BECAUSE I KNOW TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED THIS IN A VERY LONG TIME. THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO DOES THAT GIVE YOU YOU ALL THE DIRECTION THAT YOU NEED? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE WANTED TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SUP PORT. FIRST PORTION OF IT. YES, SIR. AND THEN THE SECOND PORTION. 
          YEAH. YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST PORTION, AS I MENTIONED ON THE 25TH OF MARCH, AS A POSSIBLE ADOPTION FOR AN ORDINANCE TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND THEN THE OTHER PART, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY PROMISES ON TIME FRAME, BUT I'LL WE'LL WORK AS FAST AS WE CAN. OKAY. WE WON'T HOLD. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT DOES CONCLUDE OUR WORK SESSION THIS EVENING. SO FROM THAT I'LL RECONVENE US BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION. MISS STORM, DO WE HAVE ANY ORDINANCES TO READ THIS EVENING? I KNOW IT WASN'T LISTED, BUT NO MAYOR. OKAY. SO WITH NO ORDINANCES TO READ, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION TO ADJOURN, COUNCILMAN STRANG. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILMAN? MALACHI. SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.