[Public Arts Advisory Board on February 20, 2025.]
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          OKAY. LET'S START. I'M CALLING THE PUBLIC ARTS BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AT 606. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL STEVE HERE. GLORIA HERE. AND WE HAVE ESTHER, SHANTEL AND MINAJ ABSENT. NO ONE IS HERE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. FIRST ITEM TO DISCUSS JUNE 2025. ALTERNATE ALTERNATE MEETING DATES. YES. SO I SPOKE WITH CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WANTED TO KEEP IT ON A THURSDAY. SO I ASKED FOR A JUNE 12TH OR JUNE 26TH, AND THE BEST DATE FOR US IS GOING TO BE JUNE 12TH. SAME TIME, SAME PLACE. SO I JUST I WENT AHEAD AND BOOKED THAT FOR US. JUNE 26TH. THERE WAS A CONFLICT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING BOARD INTERVIEWS. SO I THINK THAT SHE SAID THERE WERE THREE PEOPLE ON OUR BOARD THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN INTERVIEWS EITHER THAT DAY OR THERE WAS ONE OTHER DAY THAT WEEK. SO I WENT AHEAD AND BOOKED US FOR JUNE 12TH FOR THE JUNE MEETING. YES, 6 P.M. THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION. ITEM NUMBER TWO WALKING TRAILS. PHASE TWO WITH YOSHI. RIGHT. UPDATE. 
          YES. SO IN YOUR PACKET THERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SACRED FIRE SCULPTURE. YOSHI LIVES IN CALIFORNIA AND HE HIS STUDIO WAS SEVERELY AFFECTED BY THE BY THE WILDFIRES. I THINK THE ONLY THING LEFT STANDING WAS ACTUALLY SACRED FIRE. IT'S KIND OF IRONIC. HE. HE SENT A PHOTO. HE WASN'T ABLE TO GET BACK TO HIS STUDIO FOR A FEW WEEKS, BUT WHEN HE FINALLY GOT THERE, HE EMAILED THE PHOTO TO CAROL, AND HE'S WANTING TO KNOW IF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. HE'S CALLING IT A SCAR ON THE SCULPTURE. SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE SOME SIGNIFICANCE TO HIM. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE HE WAS AFFECTED SO PERSONALLY BY IT. BUT HE WANTS TO KNOW IF WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THE SCAR INTO THE SCULPTURE, OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE HIM CLEAN IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS NEVER THERE. SO IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ME? SORRY. YOU'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER THE YOU KNOW. OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THE SCAR WOULD BE SO SIGNIFICANT. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO HAVE IT DISPLAYED, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GET IT ALL SURFACED OUT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THERE. 
          IT WOULD REPRESENT WHAT HAPPENED WHILE HE WAS MAKING IT. LIKE, IT'S SUCH AN IRONY THAT THIS WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS LEFT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IF HE'S COVERED FOR INSURANCE WITH THE INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT IMPACT, WHAT WHAT HE CAN DO TO FIX WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT IT'S JUST A LITTLE BLEMISH. IT WOULDN'T BE HARD FOR HIM TO TAKE THAT OUT. WELL, IT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE THAN A BLEMISH. AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING HE SHOULD TOTALLY START ALL OVER. I'M JUST SAYING. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF. IT ALSO CAME OUT. YEAH. SO IT'S. IS HE THINKING THAT ONE HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE DISCOLORATION OUT AND THEN REPAIR THE. YEAH. SO HE WOULD BE GETTING THE DISCOLORATION OUT AND THEN THE PARTS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE CHIPPED. HE WOULD RESURFACE THOSE SO THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD EITHER NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THAT IT WAS THERE, OR MAYBE IT WOULD JUST BE LESS. YEAH. WELL, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR I, I MY PERSONAL 
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OPINION ABOUT IT IS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE SCAR WITH SOME KIND OF. 
          EXPLANATION AS TO WHY IT WAS THERE, THAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT. THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU MENTIONED. LIKE WHAT THE ELEMENTS THAT IT HAS BEEN THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET HERE. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUT OF RESPECT TO WHAT YOSHI HAS PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED WITH THIS PIECE OF ART. AND HE MAY, YOU KNOW, HE MAY BE ABLE TO ONLY DO SO MUCH. BUT DEFINITELY IF WE SAID, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CLEAN IT UP AS BEST YOU CAN. AND THEN THAT'S WE'RE JUST GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE HISTORY OF THE SCULPTURE AND WRITE IN THE WRITE UP THAT WE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE HISTORY OF THE SCULPTURE AND THE SIGNIFICANCE BEHIND IT. IT'S GOT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CRACKED AREA THERE, LIKE, I GUESS, KIND OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVINCE MYSELF IN MY HEAD. I DON'T MIND LEAVING THE SCAR. I JUST WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CRACK THAT'S THERE. I DON'T WANT IT TO GET WORSE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. AND JUST THAT WHOLE CHUNK COME OUT OF THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? CAN YOU SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE. I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT. WELL, YEAH, IT GOES RIGHT HERE. IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN AND AROUND AND THEN ACROSS THE TOP, IT FOLLOWS THIS PATH ACROSS THE TOP. IT JUST LOOKS LIKE THAT WHOLE AREA OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WOULD HAVE A TENDENCY TO WANT TO DROP OFF THERE. AND SO I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE SCAR, COOL. BUT I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF REPARATION. YEAH. NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE. JUST JUST TO VERIFY. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PIECE DOESN'T JUST COME FLYING OFF THERE EVENTUALLY. WELL, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT ALSO. AND MY, MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT IF IT'S CRACKED, IS MOISTURE GOING TO GET IN THERE AND THEN BE ABSORBED FURTHER DOWN IN THE, IN THE STONE. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS IT, LIMESTONE OR WHAT IS WHAT KIND OF STONE? I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT KIND OF STONE THIS IS MADE OF, BUT I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THAT. AND THOSE PIECES THAT HAVE COME OFF, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A, I DON'T SEE HOW HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT. 
          SO WHAT IF I REACHED OUT TO HIM BECAUSE AGAIN, CAROL WAS THE ONE THAT SPOKE TO HIM. WHAT IF I JUST REACH OUT TO HIM AND KIND OF EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS AND TELL HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND ASK ABOUT THE CRACK AND MOISTURE AND ALL OF THAT, AND THEN I'LL JUST BRING IT WELL THAT BACK. THE OTHER THING IT IT MAY I DON'T THINK IT'S PREMATURE, ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT BE TO ASK THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK. BECAUSE WELL YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT GET TO DECIDE. WELL, YEAH, BUT WE GET TO DECIDE. BUT LET'S SAY WE DECIDE. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER HE HAS SAID. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TELL THE CITY COUNCIL WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE PURCHASED. AND THEY MAY SAY, NO, THAT'S JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE. I THINK I THINK BEFORE WE AGREE WITH HIM, I THINK SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD SAY YES OR NO TO US. THAT'S MY OPINION. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD WANT IT FULLY RESTORED? YOU YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE FULLY RESTORED OR YOU JUST WANT THEM TO. OKAY, I GOT IT. NO, I DON'T THINK HE NEEDS TO FULLY RESTORE IT. BE BEFORE WE GET SOMEBODY IN THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY, HEY, LET'S JUST GO FORWARD WITH TRYING TO RESTORE IT, OR ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK SHE'S ASKING FOR THE CITY'S OPINION, BASICALLY. DO THEY THINK WE SHOULD GO FORWARD? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PIECE THAT IS NOT PERFECT. SO IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH. THAT VERSUS DO WE HAVE HIM JUST START OVER ON THAT ONE SECTION. YEAH I CAN ASK COUNCIL OR OR CITY MANAGEMENT. I THINK WHAT WE'RE MORE WE WANT IT TO BE CLEANED UP. LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE WE WANT IT TO BE LIKE LITTLE FINISHED AND JUST HAVE LIKE PARTS OF IT MISSING OR WHATEVER. SO WHATEVER HE CAN DO HIS BEST BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN EXPLAIN OR WHATEVER WE TALK ABOUT IT, OR WHEN WE HAVE A SEPARATE PIECE FOR IT THAT 
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EXPLAINS THAT, HEY, THIS WENT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, AND THEN YOU SEE THIS PART NOT BEING PERFECT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE AND ALL THAT. THAT'S WHAT WOULD GIVE THEM THE CHARACTER. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I'M NOT THERE'S NO WAY HE CAN FIX IT ALL, YOU KNOW? BUT I FEEL LIKE IMPERFECT WOULD BE PERFECT IN THIS SCENARIO. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE DURABILITY WISE AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND FOR IT TO BE COHESIVE WITH WHAT WE SET OUT TO HAVE WITH THIS PIECE IN THE FIRST PLACE IS, IS THAT GOAL IS ACCOMPLISHED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE SACRED FIRE MEANS. BUT THEN ALSO WITH WHAT IT'S BEEN THROUGH TO GET HERE, WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE THAT IT WILL MAINTAIN ITS PURPOSE WITH SUSTAINABILITY. YEAH, YEAH. SO I GUESS BY THE TIME IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, REALLY THE CONVERSATION JUST NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH YOSHI AS TO WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T DO. YEAH. SO I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEN CIRCLE BACK. VERY GOOD. AND HEARTBREAKING. YEAH. VERY SAD. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION. ITEM NUMBER THREE WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE SUNNY BAY UPDATE. YES. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION, THERE WERE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE FINAL DESIGN WITH YOU GUYS. THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THEY DID END UP TAKING SUNNY, ENDED UP TAKING THE ARROWS OUT OF THE PIECE, AND THEN THE MAYOR CAME BACK A FEW DAYS BEFORE AND ASKED THAT WE HAVE A SUNNY LOOK AT THE ANTLERS. THE MAYOR WAS CONCERNED THAT THEY REPRESENTED AN ELK VERSUS A MULE DEER VERSUS THE WHITE TAILED DEER. SO SUNNY MADE THOSE CHANGES. NO PROBLEM. AND COUNCIL APPROVED THE DESIGN. AWESOME. YEP. EXCELLENT. AND MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE. SECOND PIECE FROM SETH VANDERBILT UPDATE. SO THIS IS MORE OF JUST A QUESTION TO YOU GUYS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW AWESOME HIS MAQUETTE IS. AND WE WERE THINKING IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE FOR DURABILITY AND LONGEVITY TO GET THAT PIECE BRONZED. SETH SAID PROBABLY ABOUT $1,500 IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT ROUTE TO GET IT BRONZED. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING? I REMEMBER I RECALL HIM SAYING RIGHT AFTER THAT MEETING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF DESTRUCTION TO THE MAQUETTE WHILE HE WAS DOING THE SCALE. BUT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO REPAIR IT RIGHT AS HE WENT. SO I WOULD ASSUME IF THAT'S STILL ON THE TABLE, THEN I'M ALL FOR BRONZE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'D BE A COOL ENTRY PIECE. YEAH. IS THIS GOING TO BE PLACED SOMEWHERE? YES, YES. SO WE WOULD PLACE IT PROBABLY IN THE LIBRARY. AND THEN WE WERE TALKING OR SETH WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT WOULD GO ON LOAN TO THE CADDOS. 
          BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MUSEUM DOWN THERE. WE COULD DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WITH IT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INVESTMENT. TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS SO GREAT ALREADY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. I WILL ASK HIM IF HE CAN WORK UP A QUOTE FOR THAT. OKAY. PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THAT WRAPS UP OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR BUSINESS ITEMS. WE HAVE. ONLY THING CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. MINUTES FROM 116 2025. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. MINUTES FROM ONE 1625. I SECOND THAT. OH. THAT'S A NEW. THANK YOU. SO I. SECOND THAT. I THINK THAT. 
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KATHY. SECOND. YES. MOTION PASSES. OH. OH. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. I WOULD DO IT ANYTIME. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. OH, YES. WE ARE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND THAT MOTION. OH, DO I MAKE A MOTION? WOULD YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN? I SECOND THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. WELL, I WANT TO BE HERE, BUT I. OH. MEETING ADJOURNED. DO YOU WANT ME TO HIT THIS? NO. DO IT. DO IT. NO!
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.