[00:00:02] MAKE SURE YOU ENTER THE MEETING. OH, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL CALL TO ORDER [Historic Review Commission on December 19, 2024.] THE WILEY HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR DECEMBER 19TH, 2024. TIME IS 6:00. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? NO. ANYONE IN THE GALLERY HAVE COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD SHOW NOBODY HAD COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. THERE'S NO PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL GO INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM A CONSIDER AND ACT UPON APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING. COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CHANGES TO THOSE MINUTES? OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO CHANGES, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. YOU'LL CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES. WE DO HAVE THREE ABSENT TONIGHT, BUT WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM, SO IT'S FOUR. FOUR VOTES. WE'LL MOVE INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM ONE. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022. DASH 30, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 100 SOUTH COTTON BELT STREET, WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. JASON. THANK YOU MA'AM. AS MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BUILD A 1400 AND 60 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE STORY, CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF ITS 100 SOUTH COTTON BELT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WILL BE A 722 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE CAR GARAGE AND SHOP AREA THAT IS DETACHED. THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 10,000FTâ– !S. AND THE ESTHETICS D MATERIALS ARE LISTED THERE IN THE REPORT. AND THE DETACHED GARAGE DOES ALSO INCLUDE A. ABOUT HALF OF IT IS A SHOP WITH A RESTROOM. THAT WILL BE CLASSIFIED AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. AND NOT LIVING QUARTERS. SINCE YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO DWELLING UNITS ON THE SAME LOT IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. REALLY? IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, JUST PUSH THE BUTTON THERE TO SPEAK. YEAH. DAVE SCHUSTER, WE LIVE AT 506 ROCK ROSE LANE IN WYLIE, TEXAS. OKAY. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE ARE ABOUT THE WINDOWS. THEY'RE NOT REALLY CRAFTSMAN STYLE WINDOWS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY CRAFTSMAN STYLE? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE DIVIDED LIGHT PATTERN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING? RIGHT. LIKE THREE OVER ONE, FOUR OVER ONE, SIX OVER ONE. I MEAN, DOES THAT I MEAN, IS THERE A PREFERENCE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THAT? AS LONG AS IT'S A CRAFTSMAN STYLE, I DON'T WANT TO DICTATE WHAT YOU HAVE, AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE REALM OF A CRAFTSMAN STYLE WINDOW WITH THE TRIM OUT AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE ALL THE WAY AROUND ON ALL FOUR SIDES. YES, SIR. OKAY. DID YOU SAY THE ATTIC WINDOW? YEAH. I'M NOT AS CONCERNED. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ATTIC WINDOW. AS LONG AS IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD GO ALONG WITH WHATEVER STYLE YOU WHATEVER ONE YOU PICK. YOU COULD DO THAT ONE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM IF YOU WANT TO. BUT IT'S SO SMALL. I WOULDN'T FUSS ABOUT THAT ONE. IF ALL THE OTHERS ARE THE SAME. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON THE BOTTOM. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT THEY CALL IT, KIND OF THE SKIRT WHERE THE VENTS ARE. WHAT IS THAT [00:05:01] MATERIAL? WHAT IS THAT? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONCRETE. CONCRETE? YES, MA'AM. SO IS IT A IS IT GOING TO BE ON A CONCRETE SLAB? YES, MA'AM. SO WITH A CONCRETE SLAB, WHY WOULD YOU NEED VENTS? I'M SORRY. WHY WOULD YOU NEED THE. CRAWLSPACE OTHER THAN JUST DECORATIVE? SO JUST FOR ESTHETICS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND CONCRETE SLAB IS OKAY. OKAY, GIVE ME A SECOND. SO, LAST. WHAT? WHAT? I'M SORRY. WHAT COLORS ARE YOU PROPOSING? TO PAINT THE HOUSE. SO I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT COLOR, BUT IT'S A WHITE. THE. THE WINDOWS ARE THE WINDOW FRAMES, AND THE MULLIONS ARE BLACK. OKAY. WINDOW FRAMES AND MOLDING ARE BLACK. YES, MA'AM. BUT THE PAINT IS A SHERWIN-WILLIAMS. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT. SHERWIN-WILLIAMS. EXTRA WHITE 7006. OKAY, SO THE COMPLETE HOUSE IS WHITE. AND THE ONLY COLORS OR THE BLACK WINDOWS AND THE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS ARE BLACK. WE HADN'T PROPOSED THAT. SO YOU'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT THE ONE BEFORE. TRIM AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE WINDOWS. WE COULD CERTAINLY PAINT THOSE BLACK AS WELL. NO, YOU'RE JUST SAYING THE TRIM. THE. ARE THEY METAL WINDOWS? NO. THEY'RE VINYL. VINYL WINDOWS. YES, MA'AM. THE SIDING IS A HARDIE CEMENT. CAN I JUMP IN FOR JUST. SURE. IS THAT GOING TO BE, LIKE, HAVE A WOOD? TEXTURE ON THE HARDIE SIDING? WE PROPOSE TO DO SMOOTH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO Y'ALL. I MEAN, IT'S REVERSIBLE. IT'S. DO YOU ALL HAVE A PREFERENCE ON WHETHER THE SMOOTH OR THE TEXTURED SIDE IS FACING OUT? I THINK JASON'S GOING TO CHECK IT, BUT I THINK TO USE HARDIE BOARD IT HAS TO HAVE THE WOOD TEXTURE. OKAY. BECAUSE WHAT WE TRULY WANT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAP SIDING, THE WOOD LAP SIDING. BUT HARDIE BOARD IF IT'S IF IT'S GOT THE WOOD TEXTURE TO IT, HE WON'T HE'S GOING TO VERIFY THAT. AND THE REASON I ASK ABOUT THE COLORS IS BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY CRAFTSMAN HOMES ARE NOT JUST ONE COLOR, BUT THERE'S, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT COLORS LIKE YOU HAVE. THIS HERE. IS IT IT'S SHINGLE TYPE. IS THAT THAT SHAPE? IT'S ALSO A HARDIE PRODUCT. BUT YES IT'S A SHINGLE. OKAY. SO TRADITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THE BODY OF THE HOUSE WOULD BE ONE COLOR AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE AN ACCENT COLOR. KNOWN TO DICTATE WHERE YOUR COLOR GOES. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN JUST A WHITE HOUSE WITH BLACK ONE COLOR TRIM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE. YOU WOULD BECAUSE YOU'D WANT TO DISTINGUISH. IT'S THAT CHARACTER THAT CRAFTSMAN HAVE IN THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE ONE SOLID STRUCTURE IF IT'S ALL WHITE. YOU'RE NOT DISTINGUISHING YOUR SHINGLE OR YOUR SHAKE SIDING TEXTURES HERE FROM FROM THE ACTUAL HARDIE BOARD SIDING, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE COLOR. YOU CAN'T YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING DIFFERENT. YEAH. HERE WE GO. RIGHT. RIGHT THERE. PRIMARY EXTERIOR MATERIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT SHALL BE WOOD SIDING AND OR COMPOSITE MASONRY MATERIALS HAVING A WOOD PATTERN. OKAY. SO THAT THAT IS IN THERE. WOULD WANT TO STICK WITH THE HARDIE BUT DO A WOOD PATTERN I'M ASSUMING. SURE. AND IT'S REVERSIBLE. SO OKAY. VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT. PREFERENCE IS MORE THAN ONE COLOR, BUT THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T [00:10:05] SAY THAT SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE SHAPE. YOUR SIDING. WELL YEAH THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS THIS IS IT'S HARDY. IT'S STILL HARDY. PRODUCT. YES, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A SHAKE SHINGLE. SHAKE SHINGLE. SO IS THAT A CHANCE TO DO THAT? A DIFFERENT, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT COLOR. I MEAN, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT. YEAH, WE CERTAINLY COULD. AND WE DON'T WANT TO PICK THAT COLOR FOR YOU. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO COLORS. YEAH. VERSUS. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND MORE WITH TRADITION. TRADITIONAL KIND OF GIRL WITH OLD HOUSES. I LIKE THE DIFFERENCES. BUT AS LONG AS IT'S ON A HISTORIC PALETTE, IT'S YOUR COLOR TO PICK. AND WITH A WHITE HOUSE, YOU COULD PUT JUST ABOUT ANY COLOR TO GO WITH THE WHITE. OKAY. I DO LOVE THE SCREAM BACK PORCH. WE DO TOO. I DO LOVE THAT. AND THAT YOU HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A USABLE FRONT PORCH. I WILL BE YOUR NEIGHBOR JUST AROUND THE CORNER. OR WHOEVER'S NEIGHBOR JUST AROUND THE CORNER. SO I LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD. OKAY. SO I THINK I'LL. GO AHEAD. SO ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, MAKING A MOTION, JUST NEED TO ADD THOSE THREE THINGS IN. AND THEN I CAN WORK WITH THE APPLICANT OR WHATEVER JUST TO. ALL WE NEED TO DO IS SHOW THOSE THREE THINGS ON THE DRAWINGS WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. OKAY. AND THOSE THREE THINGS, JUST TO CONFIRM, WOULD BE UPDATING THE WINDOWS, WINDOWS ACCENT PAINT COLOR AND THEN THE WOOD GRAIN AND THEN SHOWING THE WOOD GRAIN OR AT LEAST AT LEAST PRINTING IT ON THERE THAT SAYS WOOD GRAIN. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF SMALL. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN EVEN DO THAT. IT MIGHT LOOK A LITTLE FUNNY, BUT, YOU KNOW, HARDY WITH WOOD GRAIN. YEP. AND THEN JUST PUT THAT. YEAH. JUST LABEL ALL OF THE CORNICE. FASCIA, SOFFIT, FRIEZE BOARDS WOULD ALL HAVE THAT WOOD GRAIN. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE. ONE QUESTION ON THE GARAGE, THE WORKSHOP AREA IN THE BACK. THAT WINDOW THAT'S THERE IS REALLY LARGE AND DOESN'T SEEM TO MATCH ANY OF THE REST OF THE WINDOWS. THERE'S NO FRAMING. THAT'S ACTUALLY A TRI FOLD OR QUAD FOLD DOOR UNIT. IT IS. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH SLIDER. IT'S AN ACCORDION. OKAY. AND I DON'T KNOW THIS, SO I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. ALL THE REST OF THE WINDOWS AND DOORS IN PLACE HAVE DECORATIVE DIVIDER BARS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE THOSE THAT WOULD WORK WITH THAT TYPE OF WINDOW TO MAKE IT UNIFORM? BECAUSE POSSIBLY. OKAY. THAT'S JUST A QUESTION WHERE IT'S LIKE SUDDENLY YOU HAVE THAT ONE THING THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. IF IT MATTERS THAT DOES FACE THE YARD, AND THE YARD WILL BE FENCED. SO IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. THEY JUST MENTIONED THAT. SO THE TRIFOLD DOORS. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T I THINK I MISSED THAT BACK END OF THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TRIFOLD DOOR. I THOUGHT THAT YEAH, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THE GARAGE DOORS, THAT THOSE WINDOWS ARE ACCORDION STYLE INSTEAD OF SLIDERS, YOU KNOW, THE 1960S. WELL, LET'S PUT A GIANT SLIDER IN. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT TYPE. IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE THE WINDOWS, THE ACCORDION OPEN ALL THE WAY. RIGHT. AND SLIDE OFF TO ONE SIDE. RIGHT. SO YOU CAN OPEN THAT WHOLE THING TO THE OUTSIDE. OKAY. IT'S NOT THE END. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VISIBLE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE YARD. YOU'VE GOT SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT TICK THE BUTTONS. I'M NOT GOING TO I'M NOT GOING TO FUSS ABOUT THAT ONE THING. I THINK IT'S A NICE LOOKING HOUSE FOR WHAT WE WANT IN THE DISTRICT. SO NO MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, THAT WE RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO APPROVE [00:15:08] WHAT IS IN. NEW CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT. WITH WITH THE CHANGES TO THE WINDOWS TO BE CRAFTSMAN STYLE WINDOWS. WOOD PANEL OF WOOD PATTERN ON THE HARDIE SIDING AND TWO COLORS ON THE HOUSE ITSELF. AS LONG AS THOSE COLORS ARE ON THE COLOR BESIDES THE WHITE IS ON THE HISTORIC PALETTE. IF THAT'S IT, I DON'T NEED TO SAY WHERE IT'S LOCATED OR ANY OF THAT STUFF. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND. CAST YOUR VOTE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS ONE AN EASY ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO, DO WE FINISH THE MEETING? I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. JUST GIVE ME A SECOND. WELL, I MIGHT WANT TO HEAR HIS QUESTION. ITEMS CLOSED. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. I WANT TO HEAR THE QUESTION. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. ALL RIGHT. IF THAT'S IT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING. DUBIOUS. I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. CAST YOUR VOTE. I'M GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR THE QUESTIONS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.