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BUTTON. ALL RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE WILEY PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY REGULAR
[Public Arts Advisory Board on December 11, 2024.]
MEETING OF DECEMBER 11TH, 2020. FOR THE TIME IS NOW. 754. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ROLL, PLEASE? SHANTEL? PRESENT AFSHAN. PRESENT. CASSIE. SHE COULD NOT MAKE IT THIS EVENING. ESTHER. SHE COULD NOT MAKE IT AS WELL. STEVE. PRESENT. GLORIA. SHE CAN'T MAKE IT EITHER. MINAJ. PRESENT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE WILL JUST BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION. ITEMS. FIRST ITEM DISCUSSION AND REVIEW OF THE WILEY PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. BYLAWS. IN FRONT OF YOU ARE A COPY OF THE CURRENT BYLAWS, AND A COUPLE OF THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AND FOLLOW. WHEN THESE BYLAWS WERE DONE, IT WAS BEFORE A MASTER PLAN SLASH GUIDELINE WAS PUT IN PLACE. SO THE WORDS MASTER PLAN WERE USED. A MASTER PLAN IS A DESIGN THAT YOU DO GEOGRAPHICALLY. AND YOU YOU SHOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE ART. AT THE TIME THAT WE BEGUN, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PLACE ART BECAUSE WE HAD JUST THE CITY COUNCIL HAD JUST APPROVED THE ORDINANCE. AND SO WE WERE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS. AND IT ALSO HAD TO DO WITH FUNDING, BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING OTHER THAN THE 1% FOR CIP PROJECTS. SO NOW WE WENT BACK AND DECIDED THAT INSTEAD OF DOING A MASTER PLAN, WE WOULD DO THE WILEY PUBLIC ART GUIDELINES PLAN. AND THE GUIDELINES PLAN GIVES THE BOARD DIRECTION ON, AMONG OTHER THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ANY ART THAT'S CHOSEN BY THE BOARD MUST BE AUTHENTICALLY ORIGINAL ART NOT DONE BY ANYONE ELSE. SO THAT CAME UP TONIGHT. THAT IS IN OUR GUIDELINES AND MANY, MANY OTHER THINGS AS WELL. IT GOES INTO TALK ABOUT DONATIONS FOR ART AND MANY OTHER RULES THAT WE WILL FOLLOW, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A MASTER PLAN WHERE WE DESIGNATE WHERE ART IS GOING TO GO, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS GIVE DIRECTION. ON BEING ABLE TO CHANGE MASTER PLAN TO THE WILEY PUBLIC ART GUIDELINES PLAN, AND THAT SHOWS UP ABOUT THREE TIMES. IT'S IN ARTICLE FIVE TWICE. AND ON THE FIRST PAGE IT'S IN ARTICLE ONE, SECTION TWO. YOU'LL SEE WHERE IT SAYS MASTER PLAN.THIS. THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE, BECAUSE WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY DONE, WE HAD ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE CITY OF WILEY. SINCE THEN, IN 2012, WE PASSED AN AMENDMENT TO THAT WHICH SAID THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED VOTERS. WHAT THIS MEANS IS, IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ARTIST OR SOMEONE THAT WE THINK WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO BE ON THE BOARD, AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY, THAT THEY ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD AS AS WELL AS CITIZENS OF WILEY, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS CHOOSE CITIZENS OF WILEY FIRST, UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIFIC REASON WHY WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE IT SO THAT IT MARRIES THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED. AND THAT IS ON THE SECOND PAGE, SECTION FOUR. SO IT'S ARTICLE TWO, SECTION FOUR WHERE IT SAYS SHALL BE A QUALIFIED VOTER OF THE CITY AND SHALL NOT BE AN
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EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY. IT WILL READ, EACH BOARD MEMBER SHALL BE A QUALIFIED VOTER, AND SHALL NOT BE AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY. AND WITH THOSE CHANGES, I THINK, AT LEAST FOR NOW, THAT WILL MAKE THIS THIS SET OF BYLAWS BE THE SAME AS THE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE PASSED AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES WHICH ARE IN YOUR PACKET, WHICH WILL SHOW THE SAME THING. THE CODE OF ORDINANCES IS A BOOK THAT TAKES INTO EFFECT ALL ORDINANCES PASSED EVERY YEAR AND REVISES THE CODE TO READ WITH THOSE CHANGES AND THE CHANGES ALREADY IN OUR CODE. SO WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE OUR BYLAWS TO COINCIDE WITH IT. NO APPROVAL NECESSARY. IF YOU WILL JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THEN I WILL BRING THE BYLAWS BACK TO YOU IN JANUARY WITH THE CHANGES AND YOU CAN VOTE ON IT. I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS AS DISCUSSED TODAY, TO BE VOTED UPON IN JANUARY. I SECOND THAT. I BEGIN TO. PUT OFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. I'LL BRING BACK THE BYLAWS IN JANUARY. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU CAROL. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE DISCUSSION AND UPDATE REGARDING THE WALKING TRAILS. PHASE TWO OF YOSHI.RIGHT. YOSHI SAID THAT SHE WAS HE WAS GOING TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE SACRED FIRE BY THE END OF DECEMBER. AND I HAVE NOT HEARD OTHERWISE. IT'S IN HIS BENEFIT TO HAVE IT DONE IN DECEMBER, BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER BIG MILESTONE PAYMENT THAT HE'LL RECEIVE, BUT WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON MARCH OR APRIL FOR THE DEDICATIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO MARCH OR APRIL. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM THREE, DISCUSSION AND UPDATE REGARDING THE WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE WITH SONNY BEHAN. AND IN YOUR PACKET ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE MAQUETTE THAT SONNY DID AND ALSO THE TWO OPTIONS FOR PLACEMENT OF THE ART AND COST RELATED. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON WHICH OPTION. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORT THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED WITH THAT, IT WILL GIVE YOU THE WORDING FOR THE MOTION. SO I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE FOUR. BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT UNTIL DOWN HERE. RIGHT. OH I APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM FOR THAT. SO WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST GOING TO READ THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT THE TWO OPTIONS AND DISCUSS THEM OKAY. SORRY.
YES. THE TWO OPTIONS YOU CAN DISCUSS NOW. YOU KNOW, THEY THEY HAVE MORE TO DO WITH SIZE THAN THEY DO WITH AS A COST AND SIZE. I SEE THE OPTION, BUT THE OPTIONS ARE ON YOUR COST THING RIGHT THERE. OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS ON THE BACK. ARE YOU THERE. YEAH I THINK I REMEMBER WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND AGREED FOR THE OPTION ONE THAT 59,000. OKAY I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE. DO YOU JUST WANT A MOTION FOR OPTION ONE. NO. THE MOTION WILL BE DONE DURING THE BUSINESS ITEM. BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU LOOK AT IT ONE MORE TIME. AND JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO THE CONTRARY. THAT'S RIGHT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING OPTION ONE,
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BUDGET OPTION ONE OR BUDGET OPTION TWO? I HAD A QUESTION. I HAD A QUESTION. SO THE BASE AT THE BOTTOM FOR THE DEER IS IT CAN IT BE BIGGER OR HIGHER BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE A BASE, WOULD IT MATCH THE SAME HEIGHT OF IT? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THE BASE IS THREE FEET, AND THE REASON THAT IT'S THREE FEET IS BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE STYLE AND NOT HAVING CHILDREN CLIMB ON IT. SO DURING THE DISCUSSION ON PHASE THREE, TWO, IF YOU WANT THAT BASE TO BE HIGHER, WE CAN DISCUSS IT. THEN DURING THAT ITEM AS WELL AS IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES THAT MINOR CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO THE MARKET ITSELF. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR DISCUSSION? ITEM THREE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CLOSE THAT AND MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE TWO SELECTION. FINAL PANEL. FINAL RECOMMENDATION. NOW THERE WILL BE A BUSINESS ITEM FOR THAT AS WELL. BUT YOU CAN DISCUSS THE MOQUETTE BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE SELECTION PANEL. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ANY OF THE THREE OR ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE MOQUETTE AND THE SELECTION THAT WAS MADE BY THE SELECTION PANEL, DOES THE MOQUETTE BELONG TO THE WALLY ARTS BOARD? SO THIS IS OURS TO KEEP. OKAY. WHAT WHAT DO WE USUALLY DO WITH THAT? DO WE DISPLAY THAT SOMEWHERE? WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? MOST OF OUR MAQUETTES ARE AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THEM THERE. THE OLDER MAQUETTES ARE OVER AT THE LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE THEM ON TOP OF THEIR SHELVING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THEM. EACH OF THE ARTISTS, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE ABOUT GILLIE AND MARC, SINCE THAT WAS NOT REALLY A MAQUETTE, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARTISTS WILL RECEIVE $500 FOR THEIR MAQUETTE. CAROL, WILL, I KNOW THAT WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT THIS IS RECORDED. SO WILL WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JILLIAN AND MARK REGARDING THEIR SCULPTURES OR THEIR MARKETS THAT THEY PROVIDED? YES WE WILL. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS SETH PROVIDED AN ACTUAL MARKET. IS THE OTHER TWO ARTISTS ARE THEY REQUIRED TO DO THE SAME THING? WE COULD REQUEST FROM WESLEY CLARK THE MAQUETTE THAT HE DID. HOWEVER, IT'S GOING TO BE IN CLAY, AND UNLESS WE PAY TO HAVE IT REZONED SO THAT IT WOULD LAST, I MEAN, HE HE WENT THROUGH THE WORK OF CREATING THE MAQUETTE AND SO HE DESERVES THE $500 WHETHER HE COULD COME AND BRING IT IN PERSON OR NOT. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COATED WITH SOMETHING. SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE FINE INDOORS AND WE CAN USE IT. AND THEY AND THAT IS THE ONE THEY RECOMMENDED. SO I THINK WE'RE FINE THERE. BUT AS FAR AS THE EYE PHOTOS, THAT WAS IN A MAQUETTE THAT WASN'T WORK. THAT WAS DONE. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING $500, WE OWN THIS. EXACTLY. BUT IF WE PAY WESLEY, WE DON'T OWN HIS SCULPTURE. WE HAVE THE MAQUETTE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, YOU CAN JUST KEEP IT, OKAY? UNLESS YOU ALL WANT IT AND YOU WANT TO AUTHORIZE. PAYMENT. BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S GOING TO BE PAID EITHER WAY, RIGHT? HE WILL BE PAID EITHER WAY.[00:15:14]
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING DISCUSSION ITEM FOUR? NO. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM ONE TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. I SECOND THAT. I MAKE THE MOTION. I MEAN, I SECOND THAT. WE'RE LEARNING. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MOTION. THAT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. YES. YES. ALL IN FAVOR? WAS IT WORKING? YEAH. IT'S WORKING. OKAY, COOL.AND ON THE KNOWLEDGE. I'M LISTED AS MANAGE. YEAH. AND THE MOTION FOR ITEM ONE PASSES.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITYWIDE WILEY CITY COUNCIL FOR THE MUNICIPAL WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE ART DESIGNED BY SONNY BEHAN AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $59,190, INCLUDING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO PREPARE A CONTRACT TO COMMISSION THE ART. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACT. UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE WILEY CITY COUNCIL FOR MUNICIPAL WALKING TRAILS FOR PHASE THREE. FOR SONNY BEHIND NOT TO EXCEED 59 190. I SECOND THAT. AND THAT WILL INCLUDE DIRECTION FOR US TO PREPARE THE CONTRACT. I SECOND THAT, YES I THINK. ALL RIGHT. MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO PASSES. NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE WILEY CITY COUNCIL FOR THE MUNICIPAL WALKING TRAILS. PHASE THREE ARTIST DESIGN TWO. SORRY, ARTIST DESIGN BY I FORGOT HIS LAST NAME. SETH. SETH. VAN DER POL AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $60,000, INCLUDING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO PREPARE A CONTRACT TO COMMISSION THE ART. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOTION TO CONSIDER AND ACT. UPON THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE WILEY CITY COUNCIL FOR THE MUNICIPAL WALKING TRAIL, PHASE THREE ARTIST DESIGNED BY SETH VANDERBILT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $60,000, INCLUDING DIRECTIONS TO STAFF TO PREPARE A CONTRACT TO COMMISSION THE ART.
AND I SECOND THAT. OKAY, THE MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE HAS PASSED. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE? I KNOW WE'VE APPROVED IT, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING, NOW IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT SO THAT I CAN TALK TO THE ARTIST. SO I KNOW AFSAN WAS KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE BASES BEING DIFFERENT SIZES. I THINK SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE ARROW NOT POINTING THE RIGHT WAY OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. THE POINT. THE POINTINESS OF THE
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ARROW, THAT IT MIGHT BE TOO SHARP. YEAH, THE POINTINESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ANYTHING. I THINK I THINK CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK HE I THINK HE ADDRESSED THAT BY THE FACT THAT THE ARROW WAS PULLED SO FAR BACK, AND I THINK HE WAS GOING TO BLUNT THE ARROW AS WELL. YEAH. IT RESTING ON THE FINGER TO KIND OF HELP SO IT DOESN'T GO PAST THAT. THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONCERNS AROUND THE HEIGHT, I THINK, WHERE BECAUSE IT'S SHOOTING DIRECTLY AT THE DEER, IT IS CROUCHED DOWN AND BECAUSE LIKE HE SAID, IF IT WAS THE CADDO INDIANS, THEY WOULD BE IN THE GRASS LOW HIDING. YOU DON'T HUNT THE DEER. YOU GO TO WHERE THEY'RE FEEDING.AND SO I THINK THIS IS A CORRECT DEPICTION OF WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. IT IS ONLY FOUR FOOT TALL. BUT HE SAID HE WOULD ADD, I THINK HE SAID 12IN, 12, 13IN TO IT TO PICK IT UP OFF THE GROUND. YOU DON'T WANT THE BASE TOO HIGH WHERE IT'S GOING OVER THE DEER HEAD, AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S HITTING THE DEER. YEAH, AS I RECALL, HE SAID, I BELIEVE 6 TO 12, 6 TO 12 OR 8 TO 12IN. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, 6 TO 12IN. I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO BE MADE. IF I REMEMBER. WELL, HE TOLD THAT THE HEIGHT WILL BE AROUND 4.5FT. RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS ONE. AND A SIX FEET PERSON WHENEVER. IT'S KIND OF SITTING DOWN LIKE THIS, BOWING, AND I THINK FOUR AND A HALF IS GOOD. YEAH. AND WHEN YOU ADD TURN OFF, WHENEVER YOU ADD THE 6 TO 12IN, IF YOU ADD THAT HEEL, IT'LL ADD ANOTHER FOOT TO THAT. SO HE'LL BE FIVE AND A HALF, PROBABLY CLOSER TO SIX FOOT BY THE TIME YOU ADD EVERYTHING DOWN. SO. YEAH, AS I RECALL, JILLY AND MARK, I BELIEVE, SAID THAT THEIR PIECE WAS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SIX FEET, FOUR INCHES IN TOTAL. AND THEN I THINK. WESLEY SAID HIS WAS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SIX THREE. YEAH. AND THEN THIS ONE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT 4 OR 4 AND A HALF, I THINK JUST THE FIGURE. AND THEN PLUS LIKE YOU LIKE CHANTAL SAID, PLUS THE BASE. SO THAT'S A PRETTY DECENT SIZE, PARTICULARLY FOR A CROUCHED FIGURE. I THINK THAT'S AMAZING. IS THERE ANY OTHER SOMEONE MENTIONED TATTOOS ON HIS LEGS? I DIDN'T SEE THAT. I THINK IT'S THE TEXTURING OF IT. I THINK IT WAS JEREMY HE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IT LOOKED LIKE HE HAD A TATTOO ON HIS LEG. I THAT'S WHY I WENT DOWN TO LOOK AT IT. I DIDN'T SEE IT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND TO SEE IF THEY SAW ANY TYPE OF TATTOO, BECAUSE IF IT IS A TATTOO, WE DON'T WANT THAT, RIGHT? RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT WAS ON I BELIEVE IT'S ON WESLEY'S PIECE. AND IN THIS ONE I THINK IT'S KIND OF SHOE, I THINK NOT A TATTOO, I GUESS. RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. HE'S ACTUALLY GOT PANTS ON. ANY OTHER STATEMENTS? QUESTIONS? I REALLY LIKE THE PIECE. IT'S THE DETAIL AND EVERYTHING. IT'S. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE TATTOO. I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MISUNDERSTANDING, BUT THE TEXTURING. THE TEXTURING. YEAH. HE DID SAY THE TATTOO. YEAH. I WAS LIKE BUT DID THEY HAVE TATTOOS ON THEIR LEGS, THIGH LIKE THAT. HE HAS ON PANTS SO I DON'T KNOW. OH THOSE ARE PANTS. PANTS. IF YOU LOOK RIGHT UNDER THE BACKSIDE OF IT HE HAS PANTS.
IT'S YEAH IT'S PANTS. I LOOKED AT THE DETAIL AROUND IT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE TATTOO CAME FROM, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THOSE WERE THE STRINGS FOR THE SHOE THAT YOU COULD SAY, OKAY. YEAH, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION WHATSOEVER. I THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING PIECE, AND I THINK IT'LL DO, DO SONNY BACON'S PIECE JUSTICE AS A AS A COMPLETE PIECE FOR SURE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS REGARDING ITEM THREE? NOT AT ALL. ALL RIGHT THEN I WILL REQUEST A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE WILY ARTS PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FOR THE NIGHT. I SECOND THAT.
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MOTION PASSES AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.