1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Downtown Historic District (DTH) to Downtown Historic District - Special Use Permit (DTH-SUP) on 0.083 acres to allow for a Smoking Establishment. Property located at 100 N. Ballard Avenue (ZC 2024-06).

[1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Downtown Historic District (DTH) to Downtown Historic District - Special Use Permit (DTH-SUP) on 0.083 acres to allow for a Smoking Establishment. Property located at 100 N. Ballard Avenue (ZC 2024-06). ]

AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE THIS EVENING IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT D TH TO DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT SPECIAL USE PERMIT D TH SUP ON 0.083 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 100 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE. ZONING CASE 2020 4-06.

MR. HASKINS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AS MENTIONED, TO ALLOW FOR A CIGAR LOUNGE AT 100 NORTH BALLARD, THAT IS IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, IN ADDITION TO, THE CIGAR LOUNGE, WHICH IS THE PART THAT REQUIRES THE SUP, THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO THE AT THE, AT THE ESTABLISHMENT HAVE, LIKE A CHARCUTERIE STYLE FOOD. EXCUSE ME, IF I CAN PRONOUNCE IT. CHARCUTERIE. LUNCHABLES FOR ADULTS. LOTS OF TEACHERS AND, ALSO SERVE ALCOHOL. THEY THEY DO MEET THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENT, SO THEY DO NOT NEED AN SUP FOR THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT WE DID

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SEND OUT, 27. NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE WITHIN THE 200FT. WE RECEIVED THREE THAT WERE IN FAVOR AND FIVE THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION. WITHIN THAT 200FT, WE ALSO RECEIVED, SEVERAL OF NOTIFICATION RETURNS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. ONE WAS IN FAVOR AND TEN WERE IN OPPOSITION, AFTER SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS, AS FAR AS THE P AND Z MEETING GOES, AFTER SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS, REGARDING THE USE NOT BEING CONDUCIVE TO FAMILY FRIENDLY NATURE OF DOWNTOWN, THE COMMISSION, THE PNC COMMISSION STILL VOTED FOUR ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT BE LIMITED TO CIGARS ONLY, AND THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE SUP CONDITIONS. THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO VAPES, CIGARETTES, ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. IT HAS TO BE, CIGARS. ALSO THOUGH, AS FAR AS THE 20 200FT NOTIFICATION, WE DID HIT THE 20% RULE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHICH MEANS THAT 20% OF THE ACREAGE WITHIN 200FT, WAS OPPOSED TO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. SO THAT MEANS IT WILL TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, WITH THAT, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY'D LIKE TO GIVE MAYOR, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. BEFORE, TALK ABOUT. MY NAME IS JOSE HERNANDEZ. BEFORE I TALK ABOUT, LIKE, A PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE MORE ABOUT MY HISTORY, WHERE I CAME FROM. AND, I'M 37 YEARS OLD FROM CUBA. I I BORN IN CUBA, AND MY GRANDFATHER AND HE BORN IN 1960, 1965 BEFORE THE CASTRO'S REVOLUTION, HE HAD THE TOBACCO PLANTATIONS IN CUBA. WHEN I BORN, MY GRANDFATHER PASSED ME ALL, HIS TRADITION, ALL WHAT HE KNOW ABOUT THE TOBACCO. AND THAT'S WHAT I, WHEN I, WHEN I BORN. THAT'S WHAT I SEE BIG TIME IN MY IN MY HOME, WHEN I WAS 24 YEARS OLD. I TAKE A DECISION, LEFT CUBA AND I, WHEN I LEFT CUBA, I WENT TO CHILE AND CHILE CAME HERE, I HAVE ALMOST 13 YEARS LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND AND FIRST, WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. I'M VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS COUNTRY, WHEN I CAME HERE, I DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. I KNOW MY ENGLISH IS A LITTLE BROKEN RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO MY BEST. AND, I WENT TO THE COLLEGE AND THE AND I STARTED TO WORK WITH THREE JOBS. AND ONE DAY I WAS DRIVING BACK TO MY HOME AFTER JOB, AND I SEE THE SIGN, THE GUN SHOWS WHEN I SEE THE GUN SHOWS, I SAY SOMETHING.

TELL ME. GO THERE A AND TRY TO, MAKE CIGARS THERE AND SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT I HAVE IN MY HANDS.

AND I WENT THERE. I TOLD TO THE LADY RIGHT THERE AND TOLD TO THE GUN SHOWS, AND I TOLD HER, HEY, I NEED OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I GOT THREE JOBS AND I NEEDED A SMALL TABLE RIGHT HERE. AND WHAT I.

AND SHOWED THE PEOPLE WHAT I CAN DO. AND SHE GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY. SHE LIKED IT. SHE LOVED THE CONCEPT AND THE GUN SHOW. AND RIGHT THERE START TO BUILD WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. NOW I GOT A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY. I GOT MY WIFE, TWO KIDS. I LIVE IN ROCKWALL, TEXAS. I HAVE TWO CIGAR SHOP. I HAVE ONE IN DOWNTOWN ROYSE CITY, AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN DALLAS, WHITE ROCK LAKE. AND TODAY MY PROPOSE IS, TO BRING MY CRAFT, MY ART, AND THIS, BEAUTIFUL CITY TO BE PART OF THIS WIDELY COMMUNITY AND SHOW THE PEOPLE WHAT I HAVE ON MY HAND. WHEN THE PEOPLE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE DOWNTOWN WYLIE I WANT TODAY, THEY THEY THEY THEY SEE, A PLACE TO RELAX AND ENJOY A WHAT I WHAT I HAVE THE CRAFT THAT I HAVE TO SHOW THEM. AND, AFTER THAT, THE PROPOSE IS, MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPY. LIKE I SAY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A BABE. NOTHING.

SOMETHING, OUT LIKE A CIGARS. JUST MY CIGARS. IT'S NOT A NORMAL CIGAR SHOP. IT'S JUST CRAFT. IT'S JUST MY CIGARS. WHY? WHY? SORRY. IT'S ONLY WHAT I CREATE WITH MY HAND AND A CURRY AND OTHER CIGARS. IT'S JUST WHAT I. WHAT I CAN OFFER TO THE TO THE PEOPLE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO, GUYS, GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP GROWING, TO KEEP, CONTINUE MY LEGACY AND MY FAMILY. AND

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THEN, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME HAPPY. I WANT TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND, LIKE I SAY, TO KEEP GROWING. IF YOU GIVE ME THAT OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO HELP ME A LOT. AND, AND, LET'S SEE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. MAYOR, COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MY NAME IS ROBERT ALVAREZ. I'M AN ASSOCIATE OF HI, I'VE HELPED HIM LOCATE AND COME UP WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS LOCATIONS. GONE THROUGH THE CITY COUNCILS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME IN ROYSE CITY. WE'VE GONE. THE ONLY ONE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAS THE CITY OF DALLAS. BUT WE HAD TO CONVINCE THE LANDLORD THAT WAS, LIKE, COMPLETELY AGAINST IT. AND THE LANDLORD WAS LIKE, I CAN'T SMELL CIGARS. I CAN NEVER SMELL CIGARS. HE HAS NEVER ONCE COMPLAINED. AND HE LITERALLY OFFICES CONNECTING OUR BUILDING. SO, WE PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, SOMETHING THAT I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND IS HE HAND ROLLS THESE CIGARS.

WE'VE DONE PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITY OF WYLIE. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT ON YOUTUBE. I BELIEVE IT WAS PRESENTED TO MOST OF Y'ALL, THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION. SO BUT HE WILL NOT CARRY ANYBODY ELSE'S CIGARS EXCEPT HIS FAUSTINO CIGARS. AND THEY'RE BRANDED, AND NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY BECOMING CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED, SO WE ALL KNOW THIS AT 100 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE IS THE LOCATION THAT WE'VE GOT. AND IT IT JUST FEELS OLD TOWN. IT FEELS REMINISCENT OF CUBA. THE WHOLE AREA DOES.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY ATTRACTED HIM TO IT. SO THESE ARE ARTISANAL CIGARS. THEY'RE ALL HAND ROLLED. OKAY. AND THEY'RE AN EXCLUSIVE SELECTION OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE BLEND IS A BLEND THAT HE HAS PICKED, AND GONE THROUGH, AND HE ALSO WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO ENJOY TAPAS AND CHARCUTERIE. AND, WHAT AM I THINKING? MIXOLOGY. SO SOME CRAFT COCKTAILS TO GO ALONG WITH THEM THAT HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY CHOSEN BY A, BY HIGH END BARTENDERS THAT ARE MAKING IT TO WHERE YOUR CIGAR TASTES EVEN BETTER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS ONE OF HIS CIGAR LOUNGES AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT'S UP THERE, SO IT'S ACTUALLY A DESTINATION. IT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE CITY OF WYLIE. WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO ROYSE CITY FROM FARMERS BRANCH.

WE HAVE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING CIGARS. 100 CIGARS A MONTH FROM THEM, LET'S SEE. AND IT'S ALSO STATE OF THE ART FILTRATION. WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN A MOMENT SO YOU CAN LOOK AT HIS, HIS SPOKE ABOUT HIS LEGACY, HE WAS A MEDICAL SCHOOL WHEN HE DECIDED TO DITCH CUBA AND HE HAD TO FLEE. HE WAS JUST. I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE. SO FROM THERE, HE ESCAPED COMMUNISM. HE ACTUALLY CAME TO THE UNITED. HE WENT TO CHILE AND THEN WAS ABLE TO MIGRATE TO THE UNITED STATES WHERE HE, LIKE HE SAID, HE STARTED AT GUN SHOWS. AND BEFORE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING FOR PARTIES, HE WAS DOING IT FOR WEDDINGS, THAT'S HOW ME AND HIM MET. HE ACTUALLY ROLLED AT MY WEDDING. BECAUSE WE HAD A I HAD A CUBAN THEMED, WEDDING. SO HE, LIKE, HE SAID HE HAS TWO CURRENT LOCATIONS, ONE IN DOWNTOWN ROYSE CITY AND THE ONE IN CASA LINDA SHOPPING CENTER, WHITE ROCK, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CIGARS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT HE HAS. HE HAS SAMPLES. SO Y'ALL CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT HE'S ROLLING. THIS ISN'T MACHINE ROLL. THIS IS ALL HAND ROLLED, AND LIKE WE SAID, THE BLENDS ARE ALL DONE BY HIM. THE MIXOLOGY AND CHARCUTERIE. HERE'S SOME MORE, OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING. SO IT'S A HIGH END THING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNOW, BUT MOST CIGAR ROLLERS ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED, ALMOST 70% OF THEM HAVE COLLEGE OR COLLEGE DEGREE OR HIGHER, THEY ALSO, AND THIS IS ACCORDING TO CIGAR AFICIONADO, THEY MAKE BETWEEN 75 TO $300,000 IS WHAT THEY AVERAGE AS FAR AS. SO IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP THE REST OF THE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND GO EAT AT OTHER PLACES. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THE CERTIFIED AIR FILTRATION. THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT HE'S BEEN USING. HE USES THE HANDSTAND, CEILING MOUNTED ELECTROSTATIC PRECIPITATOR AIR PURIFIERS THAT HE'LL HAVE TWO OF THOSE UNITS IN IT. PLUS HE DOES THE WALL MOUNTED RABBIT EARS I CAN'T STAND. I'M A REFORMED SMOKER. MATTER OF FACT, I 19 YEARS, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. I CANNOT STAND THE SMELL OF CIGARS OR CIGARETTES. I WALK IN HIS LOCATIONS AND I CAN WALK OUT WITHOUT SMELLING AND REEKING LIKE LIKE A CIGAR. THE PRESS, THE WFAA ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE ARTICLE ON HIM, TALKING ABOUT THE HAND-ROLLED CUBAN CIGAR AND THE STORY OF PERSEVERANCE. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE REVIEWS THAT YOU CAN SEE. THE BEST HAND-ROLLED CIGARS IN DALLAS, ENJOYING A FAUSTINO AT HAVANA CLUB AND ABU DHABI HAND-ROLLED TO PERFECTION. SMOOTH THE STRAW.

I'VE HAD IN AGES. FAUSTINO. CIGAR MAN, THIS IS SMOOTH. SO FAUSTINO, CIGARS ARE THE BEST HAND-ROLLED CIGARS I'VE EVER HAD. JOSE IS A CLASS ACT. THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION. GENTLEMEN. WE

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WOULD APPRECIATE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY APOLOGIES. THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. CAN WE GIVE CAN WE HAND THESE OUT TO MISS STORM? I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO GO TO YOU. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM TO THE CITY SECRETARY. THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT. SO IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO SPEAK OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM, WE'LL ASK THAT YOU DO IT. AT THIS TIME. I DO HAVE SEVERAL FORMS THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN, SO I WILL START WITH THOSE FORMS FIRST. I DO REMIND PEOPLE I DID NOTICE ON A COUPLE OF THESE THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION LISTED, EACH INDIVIDUAL HAS THREE MINUTES. IF SOMEONE IS SPEAKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION, THEY HAVE SIX. THAT MEANS THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT ORGANIZATION. SO YOU DON'T GET SIX MINUTES APIECE FOR EVERYONE IN IT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO TAKE THE PLACE AS SORT OF A REPRESENTATIVE. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST CALL THEM IN THE ORDER THAT I'VE HAD THEM PRESENTED. IF YOU WILL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, WHEN YOU COME FORWARD. AND WE WON'T START YOUR TIME UNTIL AFTER. SO I HAVE RODNEY LEWIS FIRST. DREW THE WINNING STRAW. I'M NOT READY NOW. RODNEY LEWIS, ADDRESS 201 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE, WYLIE, TEXAS 75098. YOU KNOW, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET BROTHER JOSE. I TOLD HIM AT THE AT THE ZONING MEETING HOW MUCH I APPRECIATED CIGARS AND HIS IDEA OF WHAT HE'S DOING AS FAR AS THE DRINKS AND THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT HE'S GOING TO DO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT DEAL. AND AT THAT MEETING I DID SAY I WAS AGAINST IT COMING ON BALLARD. I'M STILL AGAINST IT COMING ON BALLARD, I THINK THERE'S OTHER AREAS ON ON BIRMINGHAM AND ON JACKSON THAT WOULD FULFILL THE, THE, THE NEEDS OF WHAT MR. JOSE IS LOOKING FOR. AND IT WASN'T WOULDN'T HAMPER BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN ALREADY EVERYWHERE FROM RICK'S FURNITURE TO THE CLOTHING STORE DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, JUST WITH MY BUSINESS OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS NOW IN DOWNTOWN, EVERY BUILDING DOWNTOWN I'VE PROBABLY BEEN ON EVERY ROOF AND IN EVERY BUILDING DOING SOMETHING FROM INTERNET TO TELEPHONE AND ALL THE REST OF IT. I DON'T SEE HOW A PURIFIER OR ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO STOP THE SMOKE GOING FROM ONE BUILDING TO THE OTHER, BECAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN STOP THE RAIN GOING FROM ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER BUILDING. THE OLD BRICK. I THINK THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE COVERED WITH SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY STOP IT. AND THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, MY THING IS THAT DOWNTOWN, FOR WHAT I'VE DONE IS BEEN THAT EVERYTHING IS FAMILY FRIENDLY AND WITH THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH JUST CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL AND STUFF LIKE THIS, EVER SINCE THAT, WE BROUGHT IN THE SMOKE SHOPS DOWNTOWN. WE'VE HAD BREAK INS, WE'VE HAD ROBBERIES, WE'VE HAD ALL OF IT, AND I'VE CAPTURED MOST OF THAT ON SOME OF MY CAMERAS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED WITH ME ON PROBABLY 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT ROBBERIES THAT HAPPENED ONLY AT THE SMOKE SHOPS. THE YEARS PRIOR TO THE SMOKE SHOPS. I DON'T KNOW OF ONE INCIDENT OTHER THAN MAYBE GRAFFITI THAT HAS HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN IN THE HISTORICAL PART THAT THE POLICE HAS COME TO ME FOR FOOTAGE OF CAMERA, A CAMERA FOOTAGE OF SOME INCIDENT THAT HAS HAPPENED OTHER THAN A CAR ACCIDENT, I'M STILL AGAINST IT. I'M THINKING THAT WITH EVERYTHING FROM THE PEDAL CAR TO WHAT WE GOT COMING UP WITH THE BLUEGRASS RIGHT NOW, I KNOW I KNOW, JUST WORKING WITH BUSINESSES, EVEN THOUGH WE SAY, WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SMOKE OUTSIDE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WALLS AND ALL THE REST OF IT. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE INCIDENTS. AND SO HAVING KIDS OUT THERE, I THINK WILL LOSE WHAT WE HAVE FOR KIDS BEING DOWNTOWN, FAMILY EVENTS AND PEDAL CAR AND ALL THE REST OF IT. IF WE HAVE ANY MORE SMOKING DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, NOT AGAINST LIQUOR, NOT AGAINST SMOKING. I DO BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I JUST I THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT I HAVE PAMELA WELLS.

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GOOD EVENING, PAMELA WELLS, 111 MARTIN DRIVE, WYLIE, TEXAS, I HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN DOWNTOWN MORE LONGER THAN ANYBODY ELSE HERE IN THIS WHOLE PLACE, I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. WHEN MY DAD GOT HERE IN THE 50S, THERE WERE FOUR GROCERY STORES DOWNTOWN, TWO PHARMACIES, AND THE FLOWER SHOP. AND I OWN THE FLOWER SHOP NOW, BY THE WAY, IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW, THERE WAS NO ALCOHOL. THERE WAS NO SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS. IT WAS ALL FAMILY, COMMUNITY BASED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AGAIN. I DIDN'T COME AND SPEAK UP ON THE VAPOR STORES, AND NOW WE'VE GOT A PRECEDENCE THAT THEY'RE THERE. I AM COMING HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK UP ON THE SMOKING OF A CIGAR BAR. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A HIGHER CLIENTELE. HOWEVER THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT. AND IT'S ONE IS BEING IN A BUILDING CONNECTED TO THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS. FOR SAFETY REASONS, WHEN THERE WAS A FIRE HERE, THE CANDLE SHOP BURNED NEXT DOOR TO THE FLOWER SHOP. I LOST THE WHOLE BUILDING NEXT TO ME WITH WATER AND SMOKE DAMAGE, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT VENTED IN MY BUILDING. THE ROOF OF MY BRICK, SO THERE WAS DAMAGE. EVEN IF THERE IS A PREVENTATIVE FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE DAMAGED. IF THERE IS AN OPEN FLAME AND SOMEONE DROPS IT ON SOMETHING AND IT GOES UP, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S ALCOHOL THERE, BUT THAT'S ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS THE FIRE. AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF MY, NEIGHBORS DOWNTOWN ARE GOING TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T DISAGREE WITH IT COMING DOWNTOWN, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN MAKE AN EXCEPTION WITHOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT. IF WE HAVE THEM GO OFF. BALLARD BUT STILL AN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. NOW, MAYBE YOU CAN. MAYBE THAT WOULD WORK. I DON'T HAVE THEM. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING IN A BUILDING OWNED BY THEIRSEL, BUT NOT NEXT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SET A PRECEDENCE THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO SET THE PRECEDENCE THAT THEY CAN COME IN TO DOWNTOWN, AGAIN, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT RODNEY SAID ABOUT IT BEING A FAMILY BASED.

OUR ORGANIZATION. WHILE THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS WORK REAL HARD TO BRING IN THE FAMILY COMMUNITY, FEEL GOOD AREA THAT EVERYBODY CAN COME TO, AND I THINK THAT WE MADE A MISTAKE BY LETTING THE VAPOR STORES COME IN BECAUSE THERE'S CRIME. NOW, I'VE GONE OFF AND LEFT THE SHOP UNLOCKED AND STILL COME IN THE NEXT DAY AND HAVE NO PROBLEM IN FACT, AFTER I FIRST STARTED, ONE OF THE POLICEMEN CAME IN AND THEY CALLED ME AND HE HAD THE HELIUM TANK GOING. AND YOU KNOW THAT WAS THAT WAS FUN. BUT I JUST SAID, LOCK THE DOOR AND CLOSE IT. THAT'S FINE. BUT WE NEVER HAD ANY CRIME DOWNTOWN. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BRING CRIME. I JUST DISAGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SMOKE SHOP, A CIGAR SHOP DOWNTOWN. WYLIE ON BALLARD, OR ANYWHERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT, I HAVE JACKIE TOBER. GOOD EVENING. I'M JACKIE TOBER, LEGAL NAME IS JACQUELINE WALTERS. ADDRESS IS 635 LEGEND TRAIL WYLIE 75098, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. SORRY I'M A LITTLE BIT OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE I AM IN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN WYLIE NOW.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR. IT'S BEEN AMAZING. DOWNTOWN WYLIE IS AN AMAZING LOCATION THAT CONTAINS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME FOR THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND THE REASON I SAY A LITTLE BIT OPPOSED BECAUSE I DO LIKE CIGAR SHOPS. I HAVE ONE OF MY VERY BEST FRIENDS IS A CIGAR

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VENDOR, AND WHEN I SAW JOSE'S PRESENTATION, I WAS SUPER EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING INNOVATIVE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST, THAT I'VE BEEN TO, WHERE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY ALLOW OTHER CIGAR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND SELL THEIR CIGARS. YOU'RE MAKING MONEY ROLLING THE CIGARS. THAT'S AWESOME. BUT AS FAR AS KEEPING IT ON AND IN DOWNTOWN WYLIE, IT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE OF ALL THE REASONS THAT PAM EXPLAINED ABOUT THE FIRE AND THE CONCERNS OF THAT. MY NUMBER ONE THING WAS, WHAT'S THEIR FILTRATION SYSTEM LIKE? AND OBVIOUSLY THEY USE TOP OF THE LINE STUFF IS WHAT THEY SAY, WHAT IF THAT FAILS? WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? WHAT IS THEIR REQUIREMENT TO GET THAT FIXED? AND ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE SMOKE DAMAGE THAT GOES TO RICK'S NEXT DOOR WHEN HE'S GOT WOOD FURNITURE THERE? FOR NOW, THAT'S WHO'S THERE, WHO'S OCCUPYING THAT SPACE AT THIS TIME. SO MY CONCERN IS NOT, OH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. I ABSOLUTELY WANT THAT HERE. THAT WOULD BRING AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR HUSBAND AND WIFE COMBOS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE WINE, THE WINERY, GRAB A GLASS OF WINE, GO OVER TO THE CIGAR SHOP. I JUST MY CONCERN IS HAVING A SHARED WALL THAT IS MY CONCERN. I WISH HE WOULD HAVE COME A MONTH EARLIER AND HE COULD HAVE TAKEN THAT PAWNSHOP THAT WE JUST BUSTED DOWN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. HE COULD BUILD STAIRS AND PUT, YOU KNOW, A ROOFTOP BAR AND THAT COULD MAYBE GET THAT PAST. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT TIME HAS PASSED. MAYBE THAT LAND IS FOR SALE. MAYBE YOU WANT THAT, JOSE. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE A COMMUNITY FIRST AND A BUSINESS SECOND, AND OUR COMMUNITY SUPPLIES THE BUSINESS.

AND I'VE SEEN OTHER DOWNTOWNS THAT DO NOT THRIVE, OTHER DOWNTOWNS THAT WISH THEY HAD A WILY DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT TAKING THEM OFF BALLARD IS IMPORTANT. BUT I DO THINK THAT HAVING THAT SHARED WALL IS DEFINITELY A REASON TO NOT ALLOW THEM NEXT DOOR TO ANY BUSINESS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS A CLOTHING, A TITLE COMPANY, A YOU KNOW, A FURNITURE STORE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. AND NOW YOU ALL KNOW MY LEGAL NAME. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE JEREMY MEYER. GOOD EVENING JEREMY MEYER, 6913 TAYLOR LANE WYLIE, TEXAS. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, A BUSINESS OWNER. AND A PROPERTY OWNER AT 311 NORTH BALLARD. IT'S A STANDALONE BUILDING, BUT IT'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT EIGHT, EIGHT OFFICE SUITES THERE. AND YOU KNOW, MY DOWNTOWN MERCHANT NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES HAVE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY TODAY, EXCEPT THAT I REALLY WANT TO STRIKE HOME SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE. I'M A VERY STRONG, SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORTER. I'VE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES. I'VE SPENT THE LAST 17.5, ALMOST 18 YEARS SUPPORTING DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, MY HEART AND SOUL IS, DEVOTED TO THAT. AND MR. RODRIGUEZ COMING IN, I'M SORRY, MR. HERNANDEZ COMING IN.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD HIS STORY, AND I FEEL FOR THAT. AND IT PULLS HEARTSTRINGS, AND IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A NEAT BRAND, NEAT OPPORTUNITY. BUT THE MATTER OF FACT IS THAT OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR OPEN FLAMES. AND OUR BUILDINGS, IT'S NOT SPRINKLERED. IT WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR, FOR SMOKE. YOU KNOW, THESE WALLS ARE PERMEABLE. IT WAS NOT DESIGNED.

THAT BUILDING SPECIFICALLY WAS NOT DESIGNED WITH A WITH THE BACK BACK ACCESS, THERE'S NO ALLEY ACCESS. AND SO A CIGAR SMOKER WILL STEP OUT THE FRONT DOOR OR THE SIDE DOOR. THERE'S MULTIPLE ENTRY POINTS. AND SMOKE A CIGAR AND TAKE A PHONE CALL. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN DOWNTOWN, YOU REALIZE PRETTY QUICKLY IF THERE'S A CIGARETTE SMOKER, WHICH IS FEW AND FAR BETWEEN THESE DAYS, MOST HAVE GONE TO VAPING. BUT LET'S TAKE VAPING, THAT SMOKE TRAVELS THROUGH THE 100 BLOCK. IF THE ONE BLOWS NORTH OR BLOWS SOUTH, IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE DOWNWIND, YOU'RE GOING TO SMELL IT ALMOST FOR A BLOCK AWAY. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THOSE FUMES STAY IN THAT AREA UNTIL THEY REACH OAK OR MARBLE. SO SMELLING IS AN ISSUE, THE SMOKE IS AN ISSUE. FIRE AND FIRE PROTECTION IS AN ISSUE. NOW, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN DOWNTOWN, THE

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CURRENT OWNER OF THAT BUILDING HAS ANOTHER BUILDING FOR LEASE THAT I THINK WOULD BE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS TYPE OF BRAND COULD GO, BUT IN A MID-BLOCK OR AN END BLOCK CONNECTED TO OTHER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BURNED TWICE IN OUR HISTORY, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A PLACE. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR EVENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY IN DOWNTOWN, YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEDAL CAR RACE AND THE FINISH LINE AND WHAT BUSINESSES WE HAVE AT THAT FINISH LINE. NOW, IF WE HAD YET ANOTHER SMOKING ESTABLISHMENT BUSINESS OR PARAPHERNALIA BUSINESS AND THOSE YOUNG PARENTS ARE TAKING PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF THEIR THREE, FOUR AND FIVE YEAR OLDS, AND THEY GET HOME AND THEY'RE WATCHING THESE PICTURES AND THEY'RE WATCHING THE VIDEO AND THERE'S CERTAIN SIGNAGE IN THE BACKGROUND, OR THERE'S PEOPLE OUTSIDE DRINKING IN THE BACKGROUND, OR PEOPLE ARE OUTSIDE SMOKING IN THE BACKGROUND. WHAT MESSAGE DOES THAT SEND TO OUR COMMUNITY? THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU SIR.

NOW MR. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS ALL OF THE FORMS THAT WERE TURNED IN, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR. NOW IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE PRESENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MY NAME IS RAQUEL JARJOURA. ADDRESS 333 GREEN ACRES DRIVE, MURPHY, I AM A BUSINESS OWNER IN DOWNTOWN WYLIE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO COME IN TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE CRAFT THAT HE HAS, THE BUSINESS THAT HE DOES. I'M NOT AGAINST THE SMOKE, THE CIGARS, I HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT SMOKE CIGARS. I THINK WHAT HE DOES IS REALLY UNIQUE. IT'S THE LOCATION FOR ME, I CAN SPEAK IN MY BUILDING. THERE IS A BUSINESS NEXT DOOR TO ME THAT SMOKES INSIDE THEIR BUSINESS OR WHATEVER THEY DO INSIDE THEIR BUSINESS, AND THAT SMELL TRAVELS THROUGH MY WALL. I HAVE CLOTHING, SO THINGS START TO SMELL. I WALK IN THE FRONT DOOR, I GET HIT WITH IT. YOU CAN'T STOP THAT SMELL FROM TRAVELING.

WHETHER YOU'RE OUTSIDE OR INSID. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE I EXPERIENCE IT FIRSTHAND. SECONDLY, I AGREE WITH THE FIRE. I MEAN, THAT IS, I ACTUALLY HAVE FIRE DAMAGE IN MY CURRENT BUILDING. THE WALLS. YOU CAN SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR DOWNTOWN FROM FIRES, SO THAT'S ONE OF MY OTHER CONCERNS. AND LASTLY, MY BIGGEST THING IS THE EVENTS. HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO BRING FAMILIES DOWN TO DOWNTOWN WHEN WE CONTINUE TO PUT IN BARS AND BRING ALCOHOL AND SMOKING THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE MY CHILDREN DOWN THERE IF THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUT IN. I THINK WE ARE LOSING THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HAD IN WYLIE THAT MADE US DIFFERENT. OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY ASPECT. AGAIN, I THINK THE BUSINESS IS GREAT. I THINK IT CAN REALLY THRIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. I JUST DON'T THINK IT BELONGS IN DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ELSE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF YOU WILL PICK UP ONE FROM MISS STORM ON YOUR WAY BACK TO YOUR SEAT. AND IF YOU'D FILL IT OUT FOR HER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT FOR NOW, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. OKAY. MY NAME IS MADDIE GUTIERREZ. I'M AT 513 CAMROSE LANE AND MURPHY, I OWN A CHILDREN'S BOUTIQUE ON AT 131 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE. AND I FIRSTHAND HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SMELL OF. IN MY SITUATION, THERE WAS WEED BEING DONE IN ONE OF THE LOCATIONS COMBINED TO MY STORE, AND IT DOES TRAVEL, AND I HAVE A CHILDREN'S BOUTIQUE. SO MANY CUSTOMERS WOULD COME IN AND BE LIKE, WHAT IS THAT SMELL? AND EVEN MY YOUNG EMPLOYEES WERE BEING ASKED, LIKE, WHERE CAN WE GET THAT? SO IT JUST FOR ME, THE SMELL IS A BIG DEAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU STOP IT FROM TRAVELING BETWEEN OUR BUILDINGS. AND RAQUEL AND TERRY, WHO OWN THE OTHER BOUTIQUE WHERE THEY ARE EXPERIENCING ISSUES AS WELL. I'VE BEEN IN THERE AND IT'S THE SAME SITUATION, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THE FILTRATION WILL WORK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE OTHER ASPECT TOO IS, IS THE FIRE. I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BIG DEAL IN ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS, AND ALL OUR BUILDINGS ARE OLD. MY BUILDINGS OLD THINGS HAPPEN. BRICK FALLS. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON, THE OTHER PERSONAL SITUATION I'VE HAD WITH BRINGING IN SOME OF THE BARS IS OUR LATEST EVENT. MY KIDS, MY 11 AND 17 YEAR OLD, WERE OUT THERE GIVING OUT FREE POPSICLES DURING BLUEGRASS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAD

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PEOPLE WHO WERE HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK AND ACTUALLY ASKING MY KIDS IF IT WAS LACED, IF IT WAS THIS, YOU KNOW, MY YOUNG KIDS. SO I THINK IT JUST STARTS TO BRING IN PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T WANT IN OUR DOWNTOWN, LIKE WE ARE A FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT EACH OTHER'S BUSINESSES. WE SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER. WE SUPPORT OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES. I LOVE YOUR STORY. I THINK AS A SMALL FAMILY BUSINESS, I THINK IT'S AMAZING AND I WANT IT TO SUCCEED, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT BELONGS ON THE 100 BLOCK, ESPECIALLY OF BALLARD. WE ARE A HISTORIC COMMUNITY. WE ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER, AND AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP, THERE'S OTHER STANDALONE LOCATIONS WHERE YOU COULD MAYBE MOVE INTO. I KNOW THE ROY CITY THERE. ROY CITY LOCATION IS A STANDALONE HOME ON THE BACKSIDE OF DOWNTOWN. IT'S NOT ON THEIR ACTUAL STREET, SO THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS IN AROUND BALLARD THAT YOU COULD MAYBE LOOK INTO. BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S ANYONE ELSE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. WE'D ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND NOW I WILL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL FOR THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN MALIKI, THANKS, MAYOR. IF THE APPLICANT I CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICANT. I DIDN'T GET THE TIME OF THE OPERATION. WHAT TIME YOU OPEN, WHAT TIME YOU'RE CLOSING.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? THE TIME OF THE OPERATION? YEAH. WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXTEND IT A LATE HOURS. IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN AT 1030. AROUND LIKE A 910, MAYBE ON THE WEEKENDS WE CAN EXTEND A LITTLE BIT MORE 11, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT. SO YOU'RE OPENING IN THE MORNING AT 1030. 1030. OKAY. TELL ME ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING INSIDE IN TERMS OF THE SEPARATE WALL THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE TENANT NEXT DOOR, THE TYPE OF VENTILATION FOR THE SECOND FLOOR NEIGHBOR THAT YOU HAVE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. TELL ME ALL THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT EXACTLY YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITHIN THE SPACE I'VE BEEN TO THE SPACE, I KNOW THE SPACE LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR AIR FILTRATION. YEAH. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE FOR US, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGH, HIGH QUALITY AIR FILTRATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 2 OR 3 ON THE CEILING RIGHT THERE. AND THE OTHER ONE WE'RE GOING TO BE, FOR PERSON RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL. WE'RE GOING TO PUT EVERY AIR FILTRATION. SO WHEN YOU IN MY PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW IN ROYSE CITY AND THE DALLAS LOCATION, YOU CAN WALK IN AND YOU CAN SMOKE RIGHT THERE. AND LIKE I SAY, WHEN YOU WALK OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO SMELL NOTHING. YOU YOU'RE GOING TO SMELL SOMETHING.

IT'S NORMAL. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I DO SMOKE, IT'S CIGAR. IT'S TIME TO TIME. IT'S NORMAL. YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE AFFECT MY TENANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M VERY I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO COVER THAT PART BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I KNOW THE ONLY ONE I WANT TO DISTURB MY TENANT. AND SOMEONE AFFECT WHAT I'M GOING TO HAVE WHEN I DO. RIGHT THERE INSIDE. A ROBBER HAVE MORE SPECIFIC SOME WORDS WITH THE AIR FILTRATION, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A WE CAN EXPLAIN HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, AND YOU CAN SMOKE IN THE WHOLE SPACE RIGHT? NOT JUST IN THE HUMIDIFIER. YOU CAN HUMIDITY AND HUMIDITY. YOU CAN SMOKE OUTSIDE. OKAY? YOU WON'T SMOKE INSIDE THE HUMIDIFIER. THE HUMIDIFIER IS A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT THAT KEEPS THE CIGARS AT A CERTAIN HUMIDITY.

AND ALSO A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE INSIDE THERE, SO IT KEEPS THEM FRESH AND KEEPS THE TOBACCO AT THE OPTIMUM, I'M NOT A CIGAR SMOKER MYSELF. I USED TO BE, BUT LIKE I SAID, REFORMED THE. BUT IT KEEPS THEM AT THE OPTIMUM, TEMPERATURE. PRESSURE OR NOT PRESSURE, BUT HUMIDITY TO BE ABLE TO SMOKE THEM, THE FILTRATION SYSTEMS, OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE SEAL OFF WITH FIRE, CAULK THE AREAS THAT ARE THAT COULD HAVE ANOTHER PENETRATION TO ANOTHER BUILDING. ALL RIGHT. THAT'LL ALL BE FIRE CALLED, AND IF FIRE SMOKE CAN'T GET THROUGH, I DON'T THINK CIGAR SMOKE IS GOING TO GET THROUGH EITHER, AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE. I DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF ME. TO THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS, THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS. YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE. THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS WILL ACTUALLY, THEY PURIFY TO 99.9% REMOVAL OF INDOOR SMOKE DOWN TO 0.001 MICRO OR, I THINK IT'S CALLED A NANO, NO, A MICRO, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT IT'LL STOP COVID. OKAY, SO THIS IS A FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT GOES DOWN TO SUCH A MINUTE AMOUNT THERE. LIKE WE SAID, PROBABLY THREE UNITS INSIDE THERE PLUS THE AIR. THE RABBITS THAT GO ON THE WALLS. OKAY. THE AND THE OTHER

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THING IS WE KEEP TALKING AND IT'S LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE IN HERE SMOKING. IT'S A PRETTY SMALL ROOM. ONCE YOU PUT IT IN A LARGE HUMIDOR. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE MAYBE FIVE, SIX, TEN PEOPLE AT THE MAX WOULD BE SMOKING AT ONE TIME THAT I COULD THINK OF.

WOULD YOU THINK OF ANY MAYBE A DOZEN PEOPLE SMOKING AT ONE TIME? RIGHT. THE AIR FILTRATION SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE DOING WILL ACTUALLY CYCLE THE AIR. THE THREE OF THEM WOULD PROBABLY CYCLE THE AIR ONCE EVERY 30 MINUTES COMPLETELY OUT OF THAT ENTIRE ROOM. OKAY. AND IT GOES INTO HEPA FILTERS, CARBON FILTERS, ETC. SO IT'S NOT EVEN BEING EXHAUSTED OUTSIDE. OKAY.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? YES.

OKAY MY COLLEAGUE HAS INDICATED HE WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL WANTING TO COME TO WILEY. THAT IS EXCITING. AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE THOUGHT OF HAVING Y'ALL SOMEWHERE IN WILEY. I'M A LITTLE IFFY, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT SPOT.

SO I GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ON THE SYSTEMS YOU HAVE AND Y'ALL'S DESIGN AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO. OKAY, AND I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND I'M IN DOWNTOWN, SO I WANT YOU ALL TO THRIVE. AND I WANT Y'ALL TO BRING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, HELP INCREASE THE SPIN AND THE SYNERGY IN DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU MENTIONED JUST NOW THAT THE THAT THE UNIT STOPS COVID. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT AN ELECTROSTATIC AIR PURIFIER WILL TAKE CARE OF WILL WILL TAKE CARE OF A PATHOGEN IS WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING IN THAT, AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY IT'S LIKE IN Y'ALL'S PRESENTATION FOLDERS. LET ME ROLL BACK TO THAT.

BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THAT AGAIN, I COULD BE WRONG. I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN TO DISCUSSION. BUT THAT THAT WAS ONE, JUST AN INITIAL CONCERN. AND WHAT I HEARD, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE DOWNFALLS OF ELECTROSTATIC SYSTEMS IS, AS YOU SHOULD KNOW, WHAT WHAT TYPE OF VENTING ARE Y'ALL LOOKING AT DOING, OR ARE YOU VENTING IT TO THE OUTSIDE OR ARE YOU RECIRCULATING? IT'LL ACTUALLY BE RECIRCULATING. IT'LL BE A RECIRCULATING. WE'RE NOT EXHAUSTING IT OUT. SO IT GOES THROUGH A SET OF FILTERS. AND YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE ALSO PRECIPITATOR AIR FILTERS.

THEY'RE AIR AND THEY'RE NOT AIR FILTERS. THEY'RE AIR PURIFIERS. SO THESE MACHINES ARE ELECTROSTATIC. PLUS THEY GO THROUGH HEPA, THEY GO THROUGH CARBON. AND I THINK IT'S FOUR LAYERS OF CARBON. SO THAT UNIT DOESN'T JUST HAVE A CARBON FILTER. IT HAS A HEPA FILTER.

ALSO IT HAS A HEPA FILTER ALSO. OKAY OKAY. SOME OF THE SO IT'LL STOP PATHOGENS MOSTLY ARE NORMALLY JUST HAVE THE CARBON. SO IT'S GOOD THAT IT HAS THE HEPA. YES. AND IT'S NOT THE OLD SCHOOL. IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE OLD SCHOOL. AIR FILTERS THAT YOU SAW BACK IN THE 70S WHERE IT STILL SMELLED LIKE CIGARETTES. OKAY THESE DON'T DO THAT. SO THERE'S THE ELECTROSTATIC PART.

PLUS, LIKE WE SAID, THERE'S HEPA AND THERE'S FILTRATION SYSTEM. YES. TO REPLACE BECAUSE IT'S HIS BUSINESS. AND IF HE CAN'T GET HIS PEOPLE TO BE SMOKING IN THERE, HE'S JUST A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S UP TO HIM TO BE TO BE REPLACING THE FILTERS AT A REGULAR BASIS. AND ALSO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AIR PURIFICATION ON THE WALL RIGHT THERE. SO AND THOSE ARE THE RABBIT EARS, AIR WALL MOUNTED SIX STAGE FILTRATION DEODORANTS.

AND THEY'RE CALLED DEODORIZATION FILTERS. SO THOSE ARE ALONG THE WALLS. YOU CAN SEE THEM. IT'S THE LITTLE BLACK UNITS. HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE THERE. ALMOST FIVE. OKAY AS FAR AS, LET ME GET MY QUESTIONS HERE BECAUSE IT WAS NON VENTING, SO HOW MANY AIR CHANGES PER HOUR I ESTIMATE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WITH THE, WITH ALL THE SYSTEM. IT WILL PROBABLY CHANGE THE AIR THREE TIMES AN HOUR AT LEAST. OKAY. IF NOT MORE. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU ESTIMATE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU HAVEN'T HAD A DESIGN FIRM DESIGNED THE VENTILATION? WE HAVEN'T. WE'VE GOT AN ARCHITECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WE'RE LIKE TRYING TO GET AN SUP APPROVED AND THAT AT THAT POINT WE'LL ACTUALLY GO IN AND I WOULDN'T BEGIN MYSELF TO APPROVE AN SUP WITHOUT CALCULATIONS BEING DONE TO KNOW, HEY, IF YOU'RE BRINGING A SMOKE SHOP IN THAT IT'S BEING DESIGNED TO OKAY, TO HAVE THE ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF AIR CHANGES AND, BECAUSE SOME OF MY CONCERN IN THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHO REGULATES WHETHER IT'S RUNNING 400 CFM OR 1500 CFM, IF IT'S RUNNING 1500 CFM, HOW MANY DECIBELS IS IT? I HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT 65DB, 65DB IS YOUR THRESHOLD NOT TO GO OVER IF YOU'RE ADDING FIVE MORE, YOU KNOW, AIR CHANGERS IN THAT SAME SYSTEM, IN THAT SAME AREA, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO THE SOUND WITH THE PEOPLE BEFORE WE START GETTING TO SMOKE AND WHATNOT? RIGHT. WELL, HENCE THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY PUTTING THAT WHOLE CALCULATION TOGETHER. BUT WE'VE HAD TO BE WE'RE TRYING TO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT TO THE CASH OUTLAY, JUST TO BE ABLE TO GET THE IDEA OF, YES, WE'RE GOING TO CAN WE DO IT OR NOT? ALL RIGHT. HE'S ALREADY LAID OUT PROBABLY FIVE, 5 TO $7000, I GET YOU. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY

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IS WE'VE GOT THE THEY'LL CALCULATE IT AND THEY'LL SAY, THIS IS HOW MANY CHANGES PER HOUR WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO. I HAVE A BETWEEN 3 TO 4 IS WHAT I'M GUESSING IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING. BUT BY THE TIME IT'S DONE BUT WE HAVEN'T. WE'VE SPOKEN TO HAND STAT. WE'VE GIVEN THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND TRYING TO SEE 3 TO 4 AIR CHANGES AN HOUR IS ONLY ENOUGH TO HIT A MINIMUM THRESHOLD OF RESIDENT AIR CHANGE FOR A AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM, AND SO 3 TO 4 AIR CHANGES PER HOUR IS NOT VERY MANY AIR CHANGES AT ALL. WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT FILTRATION, OKAY, YOU SO YOU'RE SAYING IN THE UNITS THAT Y'ALL HAVE PUT IN ROYSE CITY, IN THE, IN DALLAS THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T DO A DESIGN OR HAVE A DESIGN STAFF DID DESIGN THEM. YEAH, BUT THEY THEY DIDN'T GIVE US ANY SPECIFICATION. HOW MANY CHANGES AN HOUR. THAT'S JUST IT'S JUST US ESTIMATING AND IT MAY BE MORE THAN THAT I DON'T KNOW OKAY. AWESOME. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I HAVE ONE MORE. YOUR YOUR TWO OTHER LOCATIONS, ARE THEY FREESTANDING OR ARE THEY IN CAPS? ONE IS FREESTANDING AND THE OTHER ONE IS ALL. IT'S ALL, A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING. SO HE HAS THE OWNER BEHIND HIM, AND HE HAS MASSAGE, MASSAGE OR, NEXT TO ME AND THE OTHER ONE IS A DOCTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S HIS OFFICES RIGHT THERE IN THE DOC AND MEDICAL. HOW LONG DO YOU YOU'VE BEEN IN THAT LOCATION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. THAT'S ONE. I HAVE ALMOST TWO YEARS. YEAH, TWO YEARS SOMETHING. AND IN ROYSE CITY I HAVE ALMOST FIVE YEARS. OKAY THANKS. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. MR. HASKINS WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK A BIT, SO I'LL LET HIM. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TOO FAR IN, BUT, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, THE APPLICANTS HAVE TALKED TO MY BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND WE WILL APPLY WHATEVER THE BUILDING CODE SAYS. AND I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T HAVE THOSE EXACT SPECIFICS, BUT THERE ARE AIR CHANGES PER MINUTE THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR, NON FREESTANDING SMOKING ESTABLISHMENTS. AND THERE'S GUIDELINES AND WHATEVER THOSE ARE. IF THIS SUP WERE TO BE APPROVED, THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD ASK HIM TO MEET. SO FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, IF I CAN ASK, I'VE GOT A GOOD QUESTION. I DID WANT TO BRING YOU UP FOR THIS, BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, I'LL ASK IT RIGHT QUICK. SO, HOW MANY BUSINESSES DO WE HAVE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT HAVE AN ALLOWABLE SUP FOR SMOKING INSIDE, NOT SELLING PRODUCTS, BUT ACTUALLY ENGAGING IN SMOKING INSIDE? ZERO? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE, MR. HASKINS? NO SIR. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE CONCLUDED OUR PUBLIC HEARING. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL ON THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAD. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MAYOR PRO TEM FORRESTER, THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO DENY COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. ON THE ABSTENTION COUNTS AS A YES. SO THE MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0, AND

[2. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Commercial Corridor (CC) to Commercial Corridor - Special Use Permit (CC-SUP) on 18.754 acres to allow for drone delivery service for Walmart. Property located at 2050 N. State Highway 78 (ZC 2024-05).]

IS DENIED. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR SECOND ITEM. THIS EVENIN. SECOND ITEM IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR CC TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT CC SUP ON 18.754 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE FOR WALMART PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2050 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 78.

ZONING CASE 2020 4-05. MR. HASKINS, THANK YOU, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS MENTIONE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, TO ALLOW FOR A DRONE DELIVERY AT, THE WALMART THAT'S ON STATE HIGHWAY 78, NEXT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. THIS IS AN SUP BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THIS PARTICULAR USE, IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WE HAVE NO REGULATION ON IT WHATSOEVER. AS FAR AS WHETHER IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT OR WHERE IT WHERE IT IS ALLOWED, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SECTOR, SO THIS GENERAL TYPE OF USE, FALLS WITHIN THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS CATEGORY, WE DID SEND NOTICES TO

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17 PROPERTY OWNERS. WE HAD ONE RESPONSE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR AND NONE WERE IN OPPOSITION. AS FAR AS P AND Z GOES, THEY HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DRONE OPERATION AND WHO HAD OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT, THE COMMISSION DID VOTE 4 TO 1 TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE, I SKIPPED OVER A LOT OF THE WRITTEN REPORT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION THAT WOULD PROBABLY SAY A LOT OF THESE SAME THINGS. SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. THEY'RE WELCOME TO I DO WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL, FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF WHAT WE CAN REVIEW, IS THE USAGE ON THE PROPERTY AS FAR AS THE AREA THAT THEY TAKE OFF LAND STORED ON. YES, SIR. THE ACTUAL REGULATION OF THEM FLYING OVER BUSINESSES, HOMES, ROADWAYS FALLS UNDER THE FAA AND IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS DEBATING THIS EVENING. SO JUST FOR ANYONE WATCHING AS WELL AS FOR MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW THAT YOU SENT US THAT INFORMATION AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE AS WELL, THAT THAT'S WHERE OUR OVERSIGHT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM EXISTS. OUR OVERSIGHT DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE ACTUAL FLIGHT PATHS OR THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS. YES, SIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING. I AM MARK BERGMAN WITH WALMART'S DRONE DELIVERY BUSINESS TEAM, AND ADDRESS, 702 SOUTHWEST EIGHTH STREET, BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS. 72716. SO, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO BRING THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COUNCIL, I'M ALSO BEING JOINED BY A FEW MEMBERS HERE THAT HAVE BROUGHT, BERNICE FROM OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM, KIMLEY HORN, AS WELL AS KATHRYN FROM WING. THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE TECHNOLOGY WITH THE DRONE ITSELF. AND FOR MYSELF, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY DRONES AND THE NEED THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING WITH THIS DRONE PROPOSAL HERE. SO I'VE GOT TO START OFF WITH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, WALMART HISTORICALLY HAS GONE TO WHERE THE NEEDS HAVE BEEN. AND STARTING OFF BY SERVING SMALL RURAL COMMUNITIES, BY BRINGING GOODS TO THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED QUITE A BIT.

WE'VE GONE FROM RURAL COMMUNITIES. WE ARE NOW NATIONA, AND THE CUSTOMER'S NEEDS ARE CHANGING AND ADAPTING AS WELL. I'D LIKE YOU TO THINK BACK TO THE LAST TIME YOU PLACED AN ORDER OR PURCHASED A GOOD, HOW THAT HAS CHANGED. THINKING BACK 1020 YEARS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU JUST DID IT. MAYBE RECENTLY, THE MOST RECENT, PRODUCT THAT YOU PURCHASED, I CAN THINK TO MYSELF, LOOKING AT, PLACING AN ORDER WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER BUYING A CAR STEREO, AND I CAN REMEMBER GETTING A CRUTCHFIELD CATALOG LOOKING FOR, LOOKING FOR A TAPE DECK. I GOT THE CONSUMER REPORTS LOOK FOR THE BEST LOOKING ONE, AND I SAID, I'VE GOT TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT ISSUE COMES OUT. GOT THE CATALOG PLACED THAT ORDER, WAITED ABOUT 4 TO 6 WEEKS, AND I HAD AN AWESOME TAPE DECK FOR MY MUSTANG THERE. SO IT WAS AMAZIN. TIMES HAVE CHANGED. CUSTOMER HABITS HAVE CHANGED AS WELL. AND I CAN TELL YOU WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE CUSTOMER NEEDS IN ALL MEANS. MY MOM, SHE IS VERY FAMOUS FOR ORDERING FLOWERS. SHE'S GOT VERY UNIQUE FLOWERS.

SHE ORDERS THEM OUT OF A CATALOG. PLACES THAT PHONE CALL AND SHE'S GOT GREAT LOOKING, A GREAT LOOKING GARDEN. MY WIFE FOUND A WAY TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS MORE FREQUENTLY THAN ONCE A YEAR. WE'VE GOT GREAT PACKAGES COMING TO THE FRONT DOORSTEP. A LOT MORE THAN I TYPICALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT HEY, IT WORKS, MY DAUGHTER'S OVER AT TEXAS TECH. THEY GIVE ME A CALL LATE IN THE EVENING, AND THEY SAY, DAD, LATE NIGHT STUDYING CAN CAN I GET SOME CHICKEN CHICKEN TENDERS AND THINKING I'M A GREAT DAD, I PLACE, I FIND A PLACE TO ORDER, AND I GET THOSE, THAT THAT MEAL DELIVERED IN ABOUT AN HOUR. NOW, MY WIFE AND I, WE STILL ENJOY GOING TO WALMART, AND WE KIND OF LAUGH ABOUT THE FACT THAT, CAN WE MAKE IT THROUGH THE STORE WITHOUT A BASKET BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE FAIL, IF WE TRY NOT TO GRAB A BASKET, SO THE SHOPPING EXPERIENCE ALL AROUND, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE NEEDS. AND WHEN WE HAD THE PANDEMIC WITH COVID COMING, WHAT WE SAW WITH ONLINE SHOPPING, IT WAS LIKE PLACING GASOLINE ON THAT DEMAND. YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND A WALMART WITH LESS THAN 12 PARKING SPACES FOR ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERY, MOST SPECIFICALLY AROUND DALLAS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE 20 PLUS IN THE STORE. HERE IS 20 PLUS AS WELL, AND WHAT WE FOUND FROM THAT PANDEMIC, NOT ONLY HAS THAT DEMAND SKYROCKETE, BUT IT'S STICKY AND IT'S GROWING. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE BRING IN DRONE DELIVERY. THIS IS TO ADDRESS ONE ASPECT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PACKAGES, SMALL

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ORDERS, TYPICALLY ABOUT 1 TO 5 ITEMS THAT WOULD FIT IN A SMALL CONTAINER THAT ARE GOING TO BE DELIVERED WITHIN 30 MINUTES OR LESS. AND SO THE NUMBER OF USE CASES FOR THIS ARE TREMENDOUS.

AND BEING ON THIS PROGRAM FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, THEY CONTINUE TO GROW. AND SOME OF THE ONES THAT TYPICALLY, KIND OF COME TO FRONT OF MIND FOR MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE DINNER, YOU KNOW, YOU GET HOME LONG DAY OF WORK, DRIVE HOME, GET TO, GET GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DINNER AND YOU'RE THINKING SPAGHETTI. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU FORGOT THE SPAGHETTI SAUCE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARMESAN, SO YOU'VE GOT AN OPTION. GET IN THE CAR, GO BACK TO WALMART, GET THROUGH THE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, TAKES ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES TO DRIVE ABOUT FIVE MILES. TYPICALLY WHAT YOU KIND OF SEE, AND THEN COME BACK HOME AND GET THAT MEAL GOING OR WITH DRONE DELIVERY. NO KIDDING. YOU CAN GET THAT PASTA SAUCE PARMESAN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES, THAT'S ONE USE CASE. AND THAT'S TYPICALLY A PRETTY, PRETTY HIGH USE CASE.

ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE, IF YOU'RE A NEWBORN PARENT AND YOU'VE GOT A CHILD BABY THAT NEEDS TYLENOL AND YOU'VE GOT A CHOICE, YOU KNOW, GET DRESSED UP, GET OUT OF THE PAJAMAS. AND THAT'S KIND OF A FALSE STATEMENT THERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO WALMART. WE ENJOY OUR PAJAMA SHOPPERS, BUT YET THEY WILL THEY WILL COME IN AND GET THAT TYLENOL. OR YOU COULD STAY HOME IN THE COMFORT, AND HAVE THAT TYLENOL DELIVERED. AND THAT SAME USE CASE EXTENDS TO MY MOM. IF I WANT TO BE A GREAT SON TO, SOMETIMES I ORDER THOSE ONLINE GROCERIES AND HAVE THEM DELIVERED. SO TO ME, THIS IS JUST ONE MORE WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE CUSTOMER NEED. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF THE WHY AND THE NEEDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BRING UP BERNICE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, TO KIND OF ADDRESS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS FAR AS THE PHYSICAL SITE SETUP. EVENING. BERNICE ESPINOSA WITH KIMLEY-HORN. MY ADDRESS IS 10101 REUNION PLACE. AND I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD JUST SO WE CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN HERE FOR YOU GUYS. SO MAYBE I'M GOING TOO FAR. OKAY. OKAY, SO THE LOCATION OF THE NEST SETUP. I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY IS USUALLY BY THE ONLINE GROCERY PICKUP AND THIS, SECTION OF THE STORE. WE'RE ON THE ONLINE GROCERY PICKUP AREA. WE ARE NOT CONSUMING MANY PARKING SPACES. THIS SITE IS VERY WELL PARKED.

AS YOU CAN TELL. WE'RE MEETING ALL CITY REQUIREMENTS AND WALMART REQUIREMENTS, OUR ESTABLISHMENT RIGHT NOW HAS 12 NEST SITES WHICH ARE DOWN ON THE GROUND. I KNOW CATHERINE WILL GO INTO HOW THAT IS SET UP, BUT IT'S GOT A GENERATOR ON SITE, A FENCE AROUND IT, AND A CONEX CONTAINER FOR NOW, IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE SETUP. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, PERMANENT FOR NOW. NO BUILDINGS, NOTHING OF CONCERN. THE LOCATION WAS PICKED MAINLY TO MAKE SURE WE WERE OUT OF ANY UTILITY SETBACKS, EASEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD TO COME BACK IN AND TAKE STUFF DOWN. IT'S A VERY EASY SETUP. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT PRESENTATION HERE FOR YOU GUYS, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. OKAY GOOD EVENING. ALL MY NAME IS CATHERINE LOVETT. I LIVE AT 2801 LIVE OAK STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, I'M WITH WAYNE DRONE DELIVERY. I'M THE LOCAL POLICY AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER. WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH MUNICIPAL LEADERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, HOAS TO NOT ONLY EDUCATE AND INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT DRONE DELIVERY IS AND THE BENEFITS THAT IT PROVIDES, BUT ALSO HELP TO ADDRESS THOSE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT DRONES HOLISTICALLY, I'M GOING TO JUMP BACK IN THE PRESENTATION AND PLAY THE VIDEO FOR YOU ALL SO YOU CAN GET, OH, IT'S NOT WORKING. OKAY. NO PROBLEM, I CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER SO THAT YOU ALL CAN REVIEW THAT LATER. AND JASON, DO YOU WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT? LIKE, IT'S NOT ON MY COMPUTER? LET ME SEE IF.

THERE WE GO. PUT IT BACK IN. I'M SORRY. IT CAME UP RIGHT THERE. OKAY. THERE WE GO. THE STORM MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT REAL QUICK FOR US. THERE WE GO. OH IS IT? AND YOUTUBE IS TELLING US NO CONTROL. CLICK MAYBE RIGHT CLICK. LET ME SEE. COPY LINK. LET ME DO THIS REAL QUICK. OKAY.

I CAN TELL YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. I'M GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO YOU TO HEAR. CONTROLLING YEAH. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M GETTING A. NO, WE WANT THIS ONE. OKAY PHARMACY. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH THE CLOUD. AND THEN WE FOUND OUT HOW LOUD

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IT'S TURNED UP TODAY. OKAY ALL RIGHT. AWESOME, SO THIS VIDEO, AS YOU SEE HERE, SHOWS OUR FRISCO STORE, AND THAT'S THE NEST LOCATION OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AT THE ACTUAL STORE. WE NOW HAVE TEN SITES AROUND THE DFW METROPLEX FROM FORT WORTH, ARLINGTON, FRISCO, DOWN TO MANSFIELD, AS YOU SEE HERE, THE DRONES ARE SET INSIDE OF THE NEST AND THEY USE CHARGING PADS WITH THOSE QR CODES TO CHARGE DURING BUSINESS HOURS. WHEN ORDERS ARE PLACED BY CUSTOMERS, THEY'RE BROUGHT OUT FROM THE STORE BY THE WALMART TEAM AND LOADED ONTO THE DRONE. FROM THERE, THE DRONE WILL CLIMB UP TO A CRUISING ALTITUDE OF 200FT, WHERE IT TAKES OFF AT A SPEED OF 65 MILES AN HOUR TO EACH CUSTOMER'S HOME LOCATION. NOW, WHEN IT ARRIVES AT THE CUSTOMER'S HOME, IT DOES NOT LAND ON THE GROUND. AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, THE DRONE IS GOING TO HOVER AT ABOUT 20FT. IT GENTLY LOWERS THE PACKAGE DOWN IT UNHOOKS. USING OUR TETHER PILL, AND THEN CUSTOMERS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE THEIR ORDER. FROM THERE, THE DRONE CLIMBS BACK TO ITS CRUISING ALTITUDE OF 200FT TO RETURN BACK TO ITS NEST LOCATION AT THE WALMART STORE. IT GOES BACK INSIDE OF THAT FENCED IN NEST AREA, AND IT WILL CHARGE ON ITS CHARGING PAD FOR THE NEXT ORDER, SO LET ME PAUSE IT THERE, FOR THE DRONES, FOR DRONE OPERATIONS AT THE STORE, WE ADJUST TO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL IN THAT SUMMER PHASE. SO IT'S 10 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AS WE MOVE INTO THE DARKER HOURS, WE WILL SHIFT BACK TO LIKE A 10 A.M, 6 P.M.

SCHEDULE. WE DO NOT FLY THE DRONES AT NIGHT, SO THE DRONES ARE FOCUSED ON DAYLIGHT OPERATION HOURS AND ALIGNMENT WITH EACH STORE LOCATION. AND WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS AS WELL, ALSO FOR THE DRONES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN TOGGLE BACK, BUT, TO THE PRESENTATION, OUR DRONES ARE VERY LIGHTWEIGHT AND BUILT FOR SAFETY, SO THEY WEIGH ABOUT 11 POUNDS AND CARRY. NO, THAT IS NOT IT. OKAY, NOW KEEP TALKING OVER OUR DRONES. WEIGH ABOUT 11 POUNDS AND CARRY A PAYLOAD OF ABOUT 2.5 POUNDS. SO AS MARK MENTIONED, WE HAVE CUSTOMERS HERE IN THE DFW METROPLEX THAT ARE ORDERING EVERYTHING FROM A ROTISSERIE CHICKEN TO OVER-THE-COUNTER MEDICATION, AS WELL AS KIND OF PRODUCE ITEMS. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE I'VE MET IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WERE MAKING DIP FOR, YOU KNOW, THE NBA FINALS AND WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THEIR FAMOUS DIP, DIDN'T HAVE SOUR CREAM. THEY WERE ABLE TO GET IT TO THEIR HOME IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES FROM THE STORE. SAME AS WELL, FOR CUSTOMERS, WE USE AN APP THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO TRACK THEIR DELIVERIES. SO WHEN YOU PLACE THAT ORDER, THE ORDER GOES INTO THE APP AND ALLOWS YOU TO GET A COUNTDOWN CLOCK WHERE YOU'RE THEN ABLE TO TRACK YOUR ORDERS, SIMILAR TO LIKE YOUR AMAZON, UBER EATS, ETC, WE ALSO ALLOW CUSTOMERS AT THEIR DELIVERY LOCATIONS TO BE ABLE TO SET THEIR DELIVERY ZONE. SO LET'S SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE YOUR ORDER DELIVERED TO YOUR BACKYARD. YOU CAN SELECT THAT THROUGH THE APP. SO WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT USE THEIR DRIVEWAY, THEIR FRONT YARD. SOME USE THEIR BACKYARD, BUT WE OFFER THAT ABILITY AND CONVENIENCE TO CUSTOMERS TO AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT PACKAGE IS ARRIVING SAFELY, BUT ALSO THAT WE'RE KEEPING RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFELY AS WELL AS PETS. WE GET QUESTIONS OFTEN ABOUT PETS KEEPING THE DOG SAFE, AS YOU SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE, WE ARE A FEDERALLY REGULATED PART 135 AIR CERTIFIED CARRIER, WE BRING THAT SAME LEVEL OF SAFETY AND REGULATION THAT THE OTHER COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS HERE IN THE DFW METROPLEX OPERATE UNDER. OUR TEAM ALSO HAS, PART 107 PILOTS. WE HAVE A FLIGHT OPERATIONS CENTER THAT IS IN COPPELL, TEXAS, WHERE WE HAVE PILOTS IN COMMAND, AS WE CALL THEM, WHO OVERSEE ALL OF THE DRONE OPERATIONS AND FLIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE DFW METROPLEX. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO MONITOR THE AIRSPACE WHERE OUR DRONES ARE OPERATING. OUR DRONES ARE EQUIPPED WITH WHAT WE CALL ADS-B SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SENDING OUT A SIGNAL TO OTHER AIRCRAFTS IN THE AREA TO SUPPORT AIR DECONFLICTION. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, FLYING AT A CRUISING ALTITUDE OF ABOUT 200FT, WE'RE NOT OCCUPYING THAT SAME SPACE AS COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS, WHICH AGAIN, MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING OUR DRONES SAFE AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN WHICH WE OPERATE. SAFE AS WELL, THIS JUST

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GIVES YOU ANOTHER VISUAL OF WHAT THE DRONES LOOK LIKE AND HOW THE PACKAGE IS LOADED ON THE BOTTOM.

THE DRONE AGAIN LOCKS THE PACKAGE INTO THE BASE. OUR SYSTEM IS OFTEN ALSO BUILT WITH SAFETY IN MIND IN EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS. SO AS YOU SEE HERE ON THE DRONES, WE HAVE 12 PROPELLERS ON THE TOP THAT ALLOW A SAFETY REDUNDANCY. SO IF ONE PROPELLER GOES DOWN, THE DRONE IS STILL ABLE TO STAY IN THE AIR FOR THAT VERTICAL LANDING. AND TAKEOFF. SIMILARLY, ON THE FRONT OF THE DRONE, WE HAVE FOUR PROPELLERS THAT ALLOW FOR THAT FORWARD PROPULSION, OUR DRONES ARE ALSO EQUIPPED AGAIN WITH THOSE SAFETY REDUNDANCIES BUILT IN FOR THE EXAMPLE, FOR THE PACKAGE TETHER THAT LOCKS THE PACKAGE INTO THE BASE OF THE DRONE. LET'S SAY IT GETS TO A RESIDENT'S HOME AND THEY LEFT THEIR CUTE LITTLE PUP OUTSIDE IN THE BACKYARD. THE PUP RUNS UP AND TRIES TO GRAB THE TETHER ON THE DRONE. IF SOMETHING PULLS ON THAT TETHER, MORE THAN THREE TIMES, THE DRONE WILL DETACH THAT TETHER IT RELEASES FROM THE DRONE. SO THE DOG GETS TO KEEP A LITTLE TREAT THAT HE CAN CHEW ON THE DRONE THEN RETURNS BACK TO THE NEST, AND THEN WE'LL NOTIFY OUR PILOT AND COMMAND TEAM AS WELL AS OUR GROUND OPERATION TEAM, SO THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF TRIAGE ON THAT DRONE. SO EVEN DOWN TO THAT PACKAGE DELIVERY PROCESS, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE. BUT WE DO MAKE SURE IN THE APP THAT WE NOTIFY RESIDENTS IN ADVANCE THAT IDEALLY, YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR DELIVERY ZONE AREA CLEAR OF PETS, CHILDREN, ETC.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING FAMILIES AND THE DRONE SAFE, AGAIN, THIS JUST GIVES YOU A VISUAL OF THE DELIVERY PROCESS, OUR DRONES ARE AUTONOMOUS. AND SO USING AGAIN YOUR GPS COORDINATES FOR YOUR HOME ADDRESS. THE DRONES ARE ABLE TO BUILD OUT A FLIGHT PLAN TO AND FROM EACH RESIDENT'S HOME. AND THEN AUTONOMOUSLY USING THAT FLIGHT PLAN AND PATH WILL TRAVEL TO EACH CUSTOMER'S HOME. THE FLIGHT PLANS ARE RANDOMIZED, WHICH HELPS AGAIN WITH THAT AIRSPACE DECONFLICTION. SO WE ALWAYS GET QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT DRONES TAKING THE SAME PATH EVERY TIME SOMEONE ORDERS TO A HOME. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THE FLIGHT RANDOMIZATION ENSURES THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE AIRSPACE AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REDUCING ANY CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE OR TOO MANY DRONES FLYING IN AT ONE TIME. I'LL PAUSE THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT COMING TO THE CITY OF WILEY. PART OF MY ROLE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IS THAT EDUCATION AND OUTREACH PIECE. SO PRIOR TO LAUNCHING IN ANY CITY, WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT CONNECTING WITH RESIDENTS ON THE GROUND. SO THAT INCLUDES REACHING OUT TO HOMES, GOING TO THE CITY, EVENTS LIKE BOO ON BALLARD, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. WE LIKE TO BRING OUT A DRONE THAT WE WILL PUT ON DISPLAY. SO THAT FAMILIES AND RESIDENTS CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BE ABLE TO TOUCH THE DRONE, FEEL IT, AND REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE BEFORE THE SERVICE LAUNCHES. ALSO, PRIOR TO SERVICE LAUNCH, WE ALSO WILL SEND OUT A MAILER. SO FOR OUR DELIVERY RADIUS, IT'S TYPICALLY SIX MILES FROM THE STORE. ONE WAY. SO 612 MILES TOTAL FOR WHAT THE DELIVERY RADIUS WOULD BE. BUT ANY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT SIX MILE DELIVERY RADIUS, WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET A MAILER IN THEIR MAILBOX PRIOR TO SERVICE LAUNCH.

IT INCLUDES HELPFUL FAQS AGAIN, ABOUT OUR FAA REGULATION, OUR SAFETY FEATURES, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES OUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO THAT IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO MYSELF AND MY TEAM DIRECTLY AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, 1 TO 1 DIALOG AND CONVERSATIONS TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. SO AGAIN, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE CITY OF WILEY AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCILMAN DUKE, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE TO YEAR DRONES HAVE CAMERAS. GREAT QUESTION. SO THE DRONES DO HAVE LOW RESOLUTION, LOW RESOLUTION OPTICAL LENSES THAT ARE USED FOR NAVIGATION AND SPATIAL AWARENESS. THOSE COME INTO PLAY WHEN THE DRONE IS DELIVERING TO A RESIDENT'S HOME. IT'S LOOKING AGAIN FOR THAT PICNIC SIZE SPACE. WE'LL SAY, LIKE ABOUT A SQUARE SIZE SPACE FOR THE DC ZONE TO LOWER THE PACKAGE IN. AND IT'S CHECKING FOR ANY OBSTRUCTIONS. THE DRONES DO NOT HAVE A LIVE FEED ON THEM, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LOW RESOLUTION, IT'S SIMILAR TO A 1997 FLIP PHONE CAMERA, SO IT'S A REALLY GRANULATED AND PIXELATED FOR OUR PILOTS. BACK AT THE OPERATIONS CENTER THAT'S IN COPPELL. THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO LIVE FEED, SO THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE ANY RESIDENTS HOME DURING A DELIVERY OR DURING FLIGHT. THEY'RE MORE SO AGAIN ABLE TO SEE THE MAP AREA WITHIN. OUR DRONES ARE MOVING THROUGH THE AIRSPACE AROUND DFW. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU. AND, HOW DOES YOUR HOW DOES IT AFFECT ANIMALS? HAVE YOU SEEN ADVERSE REACTION TO ANIMALS, DOGS, CATS, BIRDS? NO. AGAIN. SO WE MAKE SURE WHEN PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR SERVICE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THOSE NOTES FOR THE DELIVERY TO

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MAKE SURE THAT IDEALLY YOUR DELIVERY ZONE IS CLEAR. AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T TO DATE THAT THAT I KNOW OF IN THE DFW AT ALL. HAD ANY AGAIN, WE'RE NOW IN TEN CITIES AROUND THE, THE METROPLEX AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENTS WITH DOGS OR PETS. MOST PEOPLE KNOW AND TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PET IS KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY. AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE A DELIVERY COMES IN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED THIS EVENING, WHEN DO YOU SUSPECT THAT YOU BEGIN OPERATIONS, SO THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE TIMELINE FOR THE PERMIT PROCESS. SO WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO CONFIRM WHAT THAT PERMIT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH. WALMART AND KIMLEY-HORN TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY FROM THERE, ONCE THE PERMITS ARE APPROVED AND COMPLETED, THEN OUR TEAM WILL BUILD OUT A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AT THE STORE TO DETERMINE WHEN THE SERVICE WOULD LAUNCH. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TO DETERMINE THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL LAUNCH DATE. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAD YOU HAD MENTIONED A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE COMMUNICATIONS PROGRAM IN ORDER TO LET THE LOCAL CITIZENS KNOW AND GET INVOLVED LOCALLY AND COMMUNICATE THE NEW PROGRAM WHERE IT TO BE APPROVED. SO WHERE DOES THAT FIT INTO THE TIMELINE AS FAR AS BUILDING THAT PRESENCE OF MIND FOR OUR CITIZENS? DEFINITELY. SO, PENDING APPROVAL, LET'S SAY TODAY DURING THIS HEARING, OUR TEAM THEN KIND OF BUILDS THAT OUT ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE MAILERS THAT GO OUT TO RESIDENTS, WE'D MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE IN MAILBOXES, IDEALLY 2 TO 3 WEEKS BEFORE THE SERVICE LAUNCH, SIMILARLY FOR THE EVENTS, WE TRY TO TAILOR THEM AROUND THE LAUNCH DATE, BUT THEN WE'D LOVE TO STAY CONNECTED IN COMMUNITY SO WE DON'T JUST POP UP AS A ONE TIME THING AND DISAPPEAR. WE'RE STAYING CONNECTED. SO FOR THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN RIGHT NOW, I'M GEARING UP FOR OUR FALL SCHEDULE OF EVENTS. SO LOTS OF, HALLOWEEN FESTIVALS, FALL FESTIVALS, DAY OF THE DEAD TYPE OF EVENTS.

BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WE WANT TO KNOW THAT AS A COMPANY, WING IS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT JUST A ONE TIME, ONE AND DONE THING. WE LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY ONGOING. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU MAYOR. SO FIRST I'VE GOT TO APOLOGIZE FOR CHUCKLING DURING YOUR SPEECH. THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT KNOW MY LITTLE THREE AND A HALF POUND TOY YORKIE, ELLIE LITTLE MISS ELLIE MAE. AND LET ME TELL YOU, IF SHE FIGURES OUT THAT SHE CAN GRAB THAT STRING AND THAT THAT TREAT IS GOING TO FALL OFF, SHE'S GOING TO HAVE IT EVERY TIME SHE'S GOING TO SEE THAT DRONE COMING AND SHE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ON IT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS CHUCKLING AT, NOT AT YOU. I THINK MY QUESTION MIGHT FALL FOR MR. HASKINS, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ASSIST.

JASON. SO IS THERE A REASON WITH THE LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE BETWEEN THE REAR LOT AND THE BUILD LINE STILL OFF OF THE WATER LINE? IS THERE A REASON WHY IT CAN'T BE PLACED THERE RATHER THAN TAKING UP THE PARKING? THAT'S RIGHT. NEXT TO THOSE SIDE ENTRANCES. I KNOW THERE'S GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT THAT IS THEIR ACCESS POINT. THAT'S WHERE THEY GO. THAT IS WHERE THEY PARK. THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 15, 20 YEARS AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THAT THE HANDICAPS GET FILLED UP A LOT. THOSE ARE THE FIRST ONES TO GO TO. AND SO I CAN SEE KEEPING IT WANT TO KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE DELIVERIES GOING OUT AND WHATNOT. BUT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT A REASON WHY IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO BUILD A I MEAN, IN LOOKING AT IT, I SEE THE, I SEE IT'S SIX INCH PERIMETER BEAM AND FIVE INCH IN THE FIELD ON THE CONCRETE, 3000 PSI. SO IT'S NOT A SUPER HEAVY, CRAZY STRUCTURE. IT COULD. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD FIT IN THAT AREA BEHIND THOSE BACK PARKING SPOTS. IS THERE A REASON WHY IT CAN'T GO THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE WALMART FOLKS PROPOSED IT. AND IT MADE SENSE TO US. AND I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND THEY CAN SHAKE THEIR HEAD, YES OR NO, BEHIND ME, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY ALREADY DO THE DELIVERIES ANYWAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THEIR FOLKS ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED TO PUT IT THERE. YEAH EXACTLY, AND, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF, I MEAN, WALMART THAT, THAT BUILDING, SILVER PARK, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE THE, THE PANDA EXPRESS NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKING UP AREA THAT USED TO BE PARKING SPACE. SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE ALREADY DOING DELIVERIES THERE, DO YOU MEAN THAT'S WHERE THE, THE PICKUPS.

SO THE PICKUPS GOING TO END UP MOVING ONCE THAT GOES IN THERE? AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT IN THAT SAME GENERAL AREA. WALMART'S GOING TO KEEP THAT IN THAT. DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. SO GREAT QUESTION BY THE WAY I REALLY LIKE THE MINDSET OF THINKING HERE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO DRONE DELIVERY, WE SEE IT AS AN EXTENSION OF OUR ONLINE PICKUP. AND DELIVERY, WHICH WE'D HAVE OUR ASSOCIATES PICKING THE ORDERS ORDERS AND EITHER LOADING INTO A CAR OR IN THIS CASE HERE, LOADING ONTO A DRONE. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE JUST LOOKING

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AT THE OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS. SO YOU WOULDN'T END UP LOSING ANY MORE PARKING SPOTS THAN YOU'VE ALREADY LOST DUE TO OUTSIDE DELIVERY TO SERVICE THE CLIENTS DIRECTLY IS WHAT I'M HEARING, SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. I SAY THINGS VERY CONFUSINGLY. IT'S ME, NOT YOU. SO THE YOU WON'T LOSE ANY MORE PARKING SPOTS BY PUTTING THIS HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO UTILIZE WHAT'S ALREADY BEING USED FOR DELIVERY. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THEY COME AND PICK UP THEIR THEIR ALREADY RESERVED SPOTS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. THERE ARE ALREADY SPOTS THAT PEOPLE CAN'T PARK IN AND GET OUT OF THEIR CAR AND WALK INTO THE STORE. SO WE THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BUT HONESTLY, THE DEMAND IS THERE THAT WE NEED EVERY ONE OF THOSE ONLINE PICKUP AND DELIVERIES. AND WE ARE TAKING THIS THESE PARKING SPACES. BERNICE FROM THE EXISTING CUSTOMER PARKING. YES SO THE SPACES THAT ARE THERE THAT WE'RE TAKING, THEY'RE NOT THE ONES FOR ONLINE GROCERY PICKUP. SO THOSE GUYS WILL KEEP THEIR SPACES RIGHT. AND THAT IS PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT'S WHAT SERVICES THAT SIDE ENTRANCE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ONLY FEW SPOTS IF YOU'RE HANDICAPS ARE FULL TO BE ABLE TO GET IN, ESPECIALLY ONCE THE OTHER SIDE WAS ADDED WITH THE, ACCESS ON THE AUTOMOTIVE SIDE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPOTS THAT WE ADDED BACK THERE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT I'M SEEING THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY SOMETHING THAT IS A GOOD SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS NOW FOR Y'ALL. AND THERE'S AN OPTION I SEE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE A REALLY GOOD, VIABLE OPTION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A GENERATOR IN. AND OF COURSE, THE FENCING IS TEMPORARY ON TOP OF CONCRETE ALREADY THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO LAUNCH UNDER A TEMPORARY PERMIT LIKE THIS, WHILE MAYBE YOU DO THE ELECTRIC AND WHATNOT BACK BEHIND THE BUILDING WITH THE CONCRETE AND THEN JUST MIGRATE OVER THERE THAT WAY IT'S A TEMPORARY THING, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT SECTION FOR THE CITIZENS NO LONGER ACCESSIBLE IF IT'S ACCESSIBLE NOW, SO WE CAN AS FAR AS MY PREFERENCE, WE CAN LOOK AT PUTTING IT BACK THERE. THE OTHER PART THAT ALSO WE FAILED TO MENTION IS THE SAFETY OF THE EMPLOYEE WHO'S LOADING IT UP. SO WE TRY AND KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE FRONT. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE DROPPING OFF DELIVERIES. IF THE SUN'S COMING DOWN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED, THAT THEY'RE CLOSE, WE CAN LOOK, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT IN THE BACK. SO IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM YOUR LOADING DOCK DOOR. OKAY, SO IN THE BACK, IS IT WHERE THAT TURNAROUND KIND OF AREA IS PAST THE TURNAROUND. SO THE, I DON'T HAVE A LASER POINTER. YEAH BUT IN THAT CORNER, JASON, IF YOU WANT TO DRAW, I NEED TO GET CRAIG UP HERE AGAIN. OH, YOU'RE NOT ON THE DRAWING. I'M ON. LET'S SEE. TRY TO SEE WHAT YOU CALL THIS HERE. I MEAN, IT COULD BE ON THE ONE THAT HAS, X SHEET NUMBER X. ONE. PAGE 69 OF THE PACKET. OH YEAH. THAT ONE ACTUALLY. KIMLEY-HORN SITE PLAN. YEAH. SO, YEAH, I GOT IT UP HER. SO THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.

STEPHANIE. YEAH. SO THAT TOP CORNER THERE, THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER. CORRECT. YEAH. SO RIGHT BEHIND THOSE PARKING SPOTS THERE IS WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND NOT YEAH WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. WE'D OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PUT IT OUTSIDE OF THE WATER LINE EASEMENT. IT'D BE CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SCREENING REQUIREMENTS, BUFFERS OR ANY TYPE OF THAT. AND THEN ACROSS CENTENNIAL, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE ALSO LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THEIR BACKYARD EITHER, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. I CAN'T SAY YES OR NO WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING AT IT. IF IT'S POSSIBLE, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A REALLY GOOD ALTERNATIVE TO GET IT WHERE IT'S COMING OUT OF THE BACK OF THE STORE AND YOU DON'T HAVE AT THE SAME TIME, DRONES IN AND AROUND CUSTOMERS AND JUST AND LEAVE THOSE PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. AND I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CONCERN IS THAT A LOT OF YOUR ADA CUSTOMERS ARE ALSO RUNNING OUT OF SPACE. SO THEY'RE USING THAT AREA. RIGHT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE NEEDING MORE, MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. SURE. YEAH. AND JUST GOING BACK TO THE USE CASE ON DRONES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A BIT OF QUITE A FEW ELDERLY COUPLES THAT ARE USING THE SERVICE. IN FACT, WE'VE GOT STORIES. WING HAS STORIES ON HOW ELDERLY COUPLE ARE ABLE TO USE THAT SERVICE AND KIND OF RELY ON IT. OH YEAH, I'M SURE IT'S GOT TO BE THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITION TO IT. BUT YEAH, I'M ALL FOR THE SERVICE ITSELF. I THINK IT'S AMAZING. I JUST IN MINIMIZING THE IMPACT ON THE EXISTING CITIZENS. NOW IT LOOKS LIKE, HEY, THAT'S A MINIMAL COST. YOUR UTILITIES ARE BACK THERE, YOUR ACCESS FOR YOUR DOCK AND LOADING IS BACK THERE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT ALL KIND OF LINES UP BETTER THAN TAKING AWAY EXISTING PARKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RETAIL FRONT ENTRANCE, IT'S JUST ALWAYS TAKING FEEDBACK, SO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND. COUNCILMAN, I HAD,

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WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE OF THE PAD ITSELF. SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL WITH THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT YOU'VE BEEN UP AND RUNNING AT, HAVE YOU TRANSITIONED ANY OF THEM YET FROM GENERATOR TO PERMANENT POWER SOLUTIONS? WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW THIS ONE IS SET ESSENTIALLY FOR JUST UNDER 12 MONTHS. IT IS. AND SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING ELSEWHERE, OR HAVE YOU GONE BACK AND ASKED FOR EXTENDED TIMES FOR THE GENERATOR? SO WE HAVE SOME SITES THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR AN EXTENDED TIME BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO ROLL OUT ACROSS THE DFW MARKET. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE GOT WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THE PROGRAM AND IT IS PART OF THE PROJECT SCOPE TO TRANSITION ALL OF THESE SITES TO PERMANENT SHORE POWER. SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPTION COMING IN AT 12 MONTHS. IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COUNCIL TO SEE THE DRONE OPERATION PHYSICALLY IN THEIR THEIR COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO GATHER THAT ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SAY, WELL, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST CHANGE THIS ONE THING AND WE'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK. WE WANT IT TO BE VERY GOOD PARTNERS HERE. OKAY. AND THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD WAS JUST THE SCREENING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS OBVIOUSLY I'LL CALL IT SEE THROUGH. SO, IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU ALL ARE CHOOSING THAT AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT IS, ESSENTIALLY A TRUE SCREENING WALL THAT'S GOING TO BLOCK LINE OF SIGHT TO THE TO THE GENERATOR, TO THE SHIPPING CONTAINER, TO THE PADS. THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A DRONE TECHNOLOGY. YES, SO GOING BACK TO THAT SITE SETUP THAT WAS IN THE VIDEO AND I KEEP CLICKING, SORRY, SO WE CAN'T IDEALLY WE DON'T DO FULL SCREENING AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE PADS THAT ARE INSIDE WHERE THE DRONES ARE USED TO CHARGE THE QR CODES THAT YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO ALLOWS THE DRONES TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO LAND. SO IT'S A SAFETY FEATURE THAT WE'VE BUILT IN, AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT THE DRONE OPERATIONS. AND SO WHEN YOU SCREEN THE FENCING AROUND THE PAD, IT CREATES SHADOWS, WHICH THEN PREVENTS THE DRONES FROM BEING ABLE TO LAND SAFELY. SO AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, SAFETY IS THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR US AT WING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY KEEPING THE DRONE SAFE, BUT ALSO RESIDENTS SAFE. AND SO IDEALLY, WE WOULDN'T WANT DRONES GETTING CONFUSED, SO TO SPEAK, AND KNOWING WHERE TO LAND BECAUSE THEY CAN'T IDENTIFY THE QR CODES AND YOU DON'T GET SHADOWS FROM THE SLATS ON THE KNOW. SO THE FENCING THAT WE HAVE, WE SPECIFICALLY PICKED THAT OUT. AND THAT PARTICULAR DESIGN THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO KEEP, AGAIN, PREVENTING THE SHADOWS, THE SITE LOCATIONS AS WELL. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE NEST IN LOCATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE IT HITS 4:00, IT'S GETTING HEAVY SHADOW FROM THE BUILDING IS ALSO A FEATURE TO KEEP IN MIND, AS WELL. THE SHADOWS. AGAIN, IF THE BUILDING AS THE SUN IS SETTING, CREATES THOSE SHADOWS THAT CAN ALSO IMPACT THE SETUP FOR THE PADS INSIDE OF THE NEST LOCATION. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO ACCOUNT, AND HOW WE WORK WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND WALMART TO PICK THE SITE LOCATIONS, BUT IT ALSO IS A FEATURE AS WELL THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND FOR THE TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT THE DRONES. OKAY, OKAY. YEAH. THAT HELPS. THERE IT IS. YEP. SO YEP. THOSE AS YOU SEE THERE WE AGAIN TOO MUCH OF THE SCREENING CAN CAST SHADOWS ONTO THE PADS. SO IT'S AGAIN AND I'M HAPPY TO GET MORE OF OUR ENGINEERS SUPPORT.

AND DETAILS ON THAT. IF YOU ALL NEEDED SPECIFIC SPECS. BUT THAT'S AGAIN HOW THE SITES ARE SET UP FOR ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS HERE IN DFW, AND HAS AGAIN BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL FOR ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS. OKAY. SO GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THAT THE ONLY FEEDBACK THAT I WOULD PROVIDE THEN IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS SITTING OUT. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOLID. I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING. YEAH, SOMETHING SOMETHING AROUND THAT SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T STARING AT A SHIPPING CONTAINER. BECAUSE IF THE LONG TERM PLAN IS THE GENERATOR GOES AWAY, THEN ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE IT'S SOME QR PADS AND DRONES. AND IF THAT'S MADE TO LOOK NOT LIKE A METAL SHIPPING CONTAINER, I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE GOING BY THERE. BECAUSE LONG TERM, NOT ONLY IS IT YOUR CUSTOMERS, BUT LONG TERM THAT IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR CORRIDOR. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THE COUNTY IS PUTTING A FLYOVER THERE, SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE MAIN EAST WEST ROUTES THROUGH THE CITY.

WILL BE WRAPPING AROUND THERE FOR THOSE COMING FROM OUR EAST. GREAT FOR Y'ALL'S BUSINESS, BUT CONVERSELY, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THING THEY SEE EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE WILY WALMART IS NOT A SHIPPING CONTAINER. 100%. AND SO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE OPEN TO? WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO IT BEING PART OF THE SUP ALONG THE SAME TIMELINE AS THE GENERATOR, TO FINDING A PERMANENT. SO EITHER A PERMANENT SOLUTION OR SOME SORT OF SCREENING AROUND IT THAT BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE SHIPPING CONTAINER ITSELF. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL WOULD BE OPEN TO? YES. AND WE ARE ABLE TO AND WE CAN WORK WITH KIMLEY-HORN ON THAT TO MAP OUT SCREENING. SO

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WE HAVE WE COULD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN INCLUDING SCREENING, SO THAT IT SHIELDS BOTH THE GENERATOR AND THE STORAGE CONTAINER FROM VIEW FOR THIS THIS AGAIN THE ONE YEAR SGP. AND THEN MOVING INTO THAT GOAL OF SHORE POWER. IF THE STORAGE CONTAINERS CONCERN LONG TERM, WE CAN ALSO LOOK INTO OTHER STORAGE OPTIONS FOR THE STORAGE CONTAINER. WE USE THAT TO STORE THE DRONES OVERNIGHT. WE PULL THEM IN AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS AND KEEP THEM LOCKED UP. SO THAT'S WHAT THE GOAL IS OF IT. BUT WE DO HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO WITH WALMART AND KIMLEY-HORN THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY, BRING TO THE TABLE AS WELL FOR WILEY. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN MALIK. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TOO. YOU'RE ASKING FOR 12 PADS, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING TO LAUNCH 12 DRONES AT THE SAME TIME. I HEARD YOU SAY THAT OVER THE COUNTER. OVER THE COUNTER DRUGS. WHAT ABOUT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS? WOULD THAT BE IN PHARMACY SPECIFICALLY FOR ELDERS? WILL THAT BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR OR. NO, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, NO, WE DO NOT PROVIDE DELIVERY FOR PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION. BUT WHEN I TELL YOU THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION THAT I GET ON A DAILY BASIS, IF I HAD A DOLLAR FOR EVERY TIME I GOT THAT QUESTION, I WOULD BE VERY WEALTHY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE AS AN INDUSTRY FOR DRONES, HOLISTICALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING LOOKED INTO. AND THERE, DEFINITELY IS A USE CASE FOR IT.

SO THE RESPONSE THAT WE ALWAYS GIVE IS NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY A GOAL DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY? AND THEN YOU SAID YOU GUYS LAUNCHED ON THE OTHER LOCATIONS I GUESS. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS OR ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN IN THE PAST, LOCATIONS THAT WE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED THROUGH IT OR YOU STILL HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH? JUST SO WE ARE AWARE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IN OTHER LOCATIONS IN TERMS OF DELIVERY. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THIS ROPE THAT COMES DOWN FROM THE DRONE. HOW FAST DOES IT COME DOWN IF A TWO YEAR OLD IS OUT THERE PLAYING, DOES THE DRONE RECOGNIZES THAT UNDERNEATH THE DRONE WHERE THE PACKAGE IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN, WILL THAT HIT THEM IN THE HEAD WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH IT? FOR EXAMPLE? SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'M INTERESTED ON KNOWING HOW THAT WILL WORK. YEAH. SO FOR THE SAFETY PIECE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GET IS JUST ABOUT SAFETY IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING FAMILIES, PETS, WILDLIFE SAFE, AGAIN, WE MAKE SURE THAT THROUGH OUR APP, WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH RESIDENTS TO IDEALLY KEEP THE KEEP THEIR DELIVERY ZONE AREA FREE AT THEIR HOME. BUT AGAIN, THE DRONE, IN THE VIDEO, AS YOU SAW IT LOWERS PRETTY SLOWLY. SO THERE AGAIN, IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST DROP IT DOWN. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ORDER LIKE COFFEE, HOT COFFEE AND HAVE IT DELIVERED TO THEIR HOMES. SO WE'VE BUILT THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE ABLE TO LAND SAFELY AND SMOOTHLY, AND KEEPING THEM LEVEL ON THE GROUND FOR RESIDENTS TO PICK UP, SAME THING AS WELL. IF THERE WAS A TWO YEAR OLD OUTSIDE, WHICH IS NOT OUR IDEAL SCENARIO. BUT IF IT DID HAPPEN AGAIN, WE FELT THAT IN THAT SAFETY FEATURE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DRONE DETACHES THE TETHER IF IT'S TUGGED ON MORE THAN THREE TIMES, WE DID GET I GOT QUESTIONS BEFORE. WELL, WHAT IF IT CARRIES AWAY MY CHILD OR MY DOG GOES FLYING IN THE AIR? THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENCES HERE IN DFW WITH THAT TYPE OF INCIDENT HAPPENING WITH RESIDENTS. AND SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF OUR SAFETY RECORD WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, FOR OTHER CONCERNS, AS WELL, WE GET QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NUMBER ONE QUESTION I ALWAYS GET, BEING THAT WE ARE TEXAS IS ABOUT SOMEONE SHOOTING DOWN A DRONE, WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEONE DOES THAT? WE ALWAYS REMIND PEOPLE THAT, AGAIN, WE ARE REGULATED THROUGH THE FAA, WHICH IS A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY, AND SO JUST AS YOU WOULD NOT SHOOT AT A SOUTHWEST AIRLINES OR AMERICAN AIRLINES PLANE WITH YOUR SHOTGUN, IDEALLY YOU WOULDN'T DO THAT WITH DRONE. BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY WE MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND THAT COMMUNITY MAILER OUT TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN ADVANCE. IT INCLUDES THOSE DETAILS ON THERE ABOUT THE FAA REGULATION. AND OFTENTIMES WE FOUND THAT THAT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS UP FRONT. AND THEN AGAIN, IF WE DO GET ANY INTEREST, OR LIKE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR TEAM LOVES TO GO OUT. WE'LL ACTUALLY GO OUT IN PERSON AND ATTEND THE HOA MEETINGS IN PERSON, TALK TO RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FEELING SEEN AND HEARD. SO I THINK THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES. WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT OFTEN, WHAT ABOUT SPECIFICS, SINCE YOU GUYS LAUNCHED ON THE OTHER AREAS, SPECIFIC SAFETY CONCERNS, DRONE NOT GOING INTO THE PAD THAT IS SUPPOSED TO WHERE THIS IS LOCATED. LIKE COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS BROUGHT IT UP, THERE'S A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING IN AND OUT. AND SO ONE OF MY WORRIES IS THE DRONE COMES IN AND DOESN'T GET TO THE PAD. IT HITS SOMEBODY WALKING IN. SOMEBODY MAY NOT HEAR THE DRONE COMING DOWN ON THE PAD. SO HAVE YOU HAD ANY OF THESE SPECIFICS IN THE OTHER LOCATIONS? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY SAFETY CONCERNS? ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WILL AFFECT HOW THAT HAS WORKED AND

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AGAIN, THESE ARE TECHNOLOGY QUESTIONS OUTSIDE OF MY SCOPE OF UNDERSTANDING TECHNOLOGY. BUT JUST KNOW. YEAH. AND THOSE QUESTIONS WE WELCOME THOSE. BUT AGAIN WE ARE IN TEN CITIES AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INCIDENCES. ALL OF OUR NEST LOCATIONS ARE ACTUALLY MOST OF THEM ARE LOCATED AT THE FRONT OF THE STORE OR ON THE SIDE OF THE STORE. THEY'RE ALL TYPICALLY LOCATED. I THINK ALL OF THEM ARE LOCATED NEXT TO THE CURBSIDE PICKUP LOCATIONS. SO THOSE PARKING SPOTS, SO THERE'S HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT IS MOVING THROUGH THE STORE PARKING LOTS AT ALL TIMES. AND PEOPLE AGAIN, WHEN THEY SEE THE NEST, IT'S FENCED IN. SO THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH ANY RESIDENTS OR CUSTOMERS AT THE ACTUAL STORES BEING IMPACTED BY THE DRONES.

MOST OF THE TIME, WHAT HAPPENS? I WAS JUST AT THE WALMART SUPERCENTER IN TEXAS. WE JUST LAUNCHED SERVICE THERE TODAY, AND SO IT WAS PRETTY COOL THAT PEOPLE, AS THEY WERE COMING INTO THE PARKING LOT, WERE GETTING OUT OF THEIR CARS AND WALKING OVER LIKE, OH MY GOD, WHAT IS THAT? OR OH, I GOT THE MAILER IN MY MAILBOX LAST WEEK. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE TYPICALLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFOREHAND. SO WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE STORE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I'VE HEARD OF THAT, OR I'VE SEEN IT, OR I GOT THE INFO UP FRONT, BUT THE HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT HAPPENS AT THE STORES, IT'S AT ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS. AND AGAIN, WE'VE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH WALMART TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THE DRONE SAFE AT ALL TIMES. MY LAST QUESTION IS THERE'S HIGH WINDS. THE PACKAGE IS ATTACHED TO THE DRONES. DO YOU GUYS STILL FLY OR DO YOU STOP FLYING UNTIL THE WINDS GO OUT? BECAUSE THE PACKAGE PROBABLY WILL GET. YEAH SO ANYTHING OVER 30 KNOTS SUSTAINED, WE WOULD GROUND OPERATIONS AND THEN WE ALSO SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS THROUGH THE APP IN THE EVENT OF LIKE, HEAVY WINDS, TORNADOES, HEAVY THUNDERSTORMS. WE DO FLY IN RAIN. WE ALSO ARE ABLE TO FLY IN SNOW AND COLD CONDITIONS, BUT AGAIN, FOR LIKE EXTREME HEAT. SO I THINK ANYTHING OVER LIKE 110 AS WELL AS THOSE HEAVY STORMS LIKE BACK IN THE SPRING WHEN WE WERE GETTING THOSE CRAZY TORNADOES, THOSE WERE TIMES WHEN WE WOULD PAUSE OPERATIONS, BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT TO CUSTOMERS IN ADVANCE THROUGH THE APP. EVERYONE GETS KIND OF LIKE A BROADCAST TO THEIR PHONES, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT OPERATIONS ARE PAUSED. AND THEN WHEN OPERATIONS RESUME, WE ALSO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO NO HAIL AND NO SUMMERS IN PHOENIX, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, MAYOR QUICK. I HAD ONE ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP AND IT WAS, MAYOR HELPED ME REALIZE SOMETHING THAT I HAD THOUGHT OF. AND THEN MOVED PAST. SO I SAW THE OCTOBER, YOU KNOW, 30TH OR 31ST DATE THERE, AND I MISSED THAT. THAT WAS 20, 25. AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHICH MIGHT COME BACK TO MR. HASKINS, BUT THE, SO OUR, WHENEVER WE DO OUR SUPS OR OUR TEMPORARY PERMITS, THE ISSUE IS THE GENERATOR, THE NOISE, ALL THAT. AND IT'S NORMALLY ONLY FOR 90 DAYS FOR THAT REASON. IS THERE A WAY Y'ALL COULD SPEED IT UP AND IT NOT BE? YOU KNOW, A YEAR LONG, TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, HOLDOVER? IS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT THAT CLOCK CRANKING? YES. THAT'S POSSIBLE. SO BY BY ALL MEANS I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT FEEDBACK. I'M GOING TO GO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY TEAM AND I'M GOING TO SAY, HEY, THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OR ONE OF THE PRIMARY CONCERNS IS SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS TO GET THIS TO BECOME PERMANENT. SO THAT AND I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE COMMENTS, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK.

AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWO YEARS. NUMBER ONE, FEEDBACK THAT I GET COMPLAINT WHEN IT COMES TO THE DRONE DELIVERY IS WHY CAN'T I GET IT? HONESTLY, I GET A LOT OF PEOPLE I TALK WITH AND THEY SAY, WHY CAN'T I GET IT JUST YET? WE'RE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO EXPAND, SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. THEN SO Y'ALL'S PARENT COMPANY HAS A PRETTY WIDE FOOTPRINT, AND SO, HOW COME ONLY TEN CITIES, IF YOUR PARENT COMPANY HAS THAT BIG OF A FOOTPRINT? AND HOW COME ONLY HERE. AND ARE Y'ALL DOING DIFFERENT COMPANY STRUCTURES IN DIFFERENT AREAS? IS THAT A LIABILITY MANEUVER OR WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT. IT'S A NEWER TECHNOLOGY. THERE IS THE PUBLIC ACCEPTANCE, THE PUBLIC EDUCATION. THERE'S ALSO SOME TWEAKING THAT WE ARE DOING FROM THE BUSINESS ASPECT. WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO WORK BEST AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF PADS PER SITE, THE DEMAND THAT WE'RE SEEING AND HOW THAT DEMAND RELATES TO ACTUAL TRANSITION TO CUSTOMER ADOPTION AS WELL. SO A LOT OF PIECES THAT WE'RE PULLING IN, BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT, LONG TERM. YEAH, IT'S IN THE PLANS. AND I WAS CURIOUS WITH THAT, IF THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ALL HAVE, OR YOUR PARENT COMPANY HAS OTHER COMPANIES THAT ARE ALL THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING, ARE THEY SEEING THE SAME RESULTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, NOT NECESSARILY. WE SEE SOME GREAT RESULTS. WAYNE IS AN AMAZING PARTNER, AND I THINK THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO ROLL OUT AND I THINK HERE IN WYLIE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL AND IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE STORY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND ON THESE. THANK YOU. YEP. THAT'S IT. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANKS, JASON. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, SINCE THIS IS AN SUP AND IT'S BASED ON A 12 MONTH CYCLE, DOES THIS MEAN AT THE END OF THE 12 MONTHS THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF PERMANENCE, OR. THIS IS NO, SIR, WHAT THIS MEANS? WHAT? THAT 12

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MONTH. WHAT THAT OCTOBER 31ST DATE MEANS IS THAT. OH STAFF IS GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND THAT GENERATOR NEEDS TO BE GONE AND SHORE POWER NEEDS TO BE ON THERE IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE USING IT. THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. GREAT THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. CAN I MAKE A QUICK REQUEST BEFORE I. POTENTIALLY. YOU'RE THE MAYOR. OPEN THIS UP. HOLD OUR PUBLIC HEARING YET? DO WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DIDN'T THINK SO. NO, YOU DID NOT. LET ME DO THAT REAL QUICK.

AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP BEFORE I CALL FOR A MOTION. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ITEM. IF ANY INDIVIDUAL IS HERE TONIGHT, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, WOULD ASK THAT YOU STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. WE GOT TWO. SO SHE'S GOT TO FILL OUT A SHEET FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. OH APOLOGIES. SO WE CAN WE CAN ADD IT TO THIS ONE. I'LL JUST GO FIRST. YES MA'AM. IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US, PLEASE. PAMELA WELLS, 111 MARTIN DRIVE, WYLIE, TEXAS, 75098. MY QUESTION IS IF YOU APPROVE THIS AND LATER THEY DO BRING ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT ARE DELIVERED, WILL THAT AUTOMATICALLY WOULD THAT THIS PERMIT GIVE THEM AUTOMATICALLY THE ABILITY TO DELIVER DRUGS FALLING FROM THE CEILING OR FROM THE SKY. SO I CAN ANSWER WE CAN'T REGULATE WHAT THEY'RE SHIPPING. THAT WOULD ALL BE UNDER FAA GUIDELINES. AND HONESTLY I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEIR GUIDELINES ARE. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE PRETTY STRICT CONTROLS AROUND ANY SORT OF NARCOTICS, AND IT'S PROBABLY WHY WE'RE, I'LL SAY, CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. MY ASSUMPTION ALSO IS THAT THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY'RE NOT YET DOING IT. BUT BUT WE COULD HAPPEN. YES. AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT APPROVING WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN FLY THE DRONES. RIGHT.

JUST THE ACTUAL WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THE LOCATION. SO IF THEY IF THEY PUT IT, IF WE DO OR IF YOU DO ALLOW THEM TO DO THIS, THEN IN THE FUTURE THEY COULD BE DROPPING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS FROM THE SKY AND OUT OF THE WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OR IS THERE EVER ANY DELIVERIES THAT ARE MADE TO THE WRONG HOUSE? OKAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM FOR AND I'D BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. SIR HELLO, MY NAME IS TOMMY TODD, FOR 21 DA VINCI LANE HERE IN WYLIE, TEXAS, I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T DICTATE THE FLIGHT PATHS. I KNOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TALK THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE PAD SITES, BUT THAT'S THE FIRST STEP INTO A LARGER PROBLEM THAT THESE THINGS CAUSE. THREE THINGS ABOUT DRONES. I'M ACTUALLY A DRONE PILOT MYSELF. I WORK WITH A LOT OF AG COMPANIES TO FLY DRONES OVER CROPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THESE THINGS ARE LOUD. THEY DO CRASH AND THEY DO RECOR. SO EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A LIVE STREAM, THEY DO RECORD FOOTAGE OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

SO THERE IS A BIG PRIVACY CONCERN AS FAR AS COMMUNITIES ARE CONCERNED. IF YOU LOOK AT TEXAS AND ITS HISTORY WITH DRONE DELIVERY SERVICES, THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT, WHICH IS INTERESTING, THEY DIDN'T BRING IT UP, IS THE NOISE. THESE THINGS ARE LOUD. SO EVEN IN THE PAD SITE WITHIN WALMART, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THESE THINGS FROM PROBABLY A MILE AWAY. THEY'RE THAT LOUD. I FLY CONSUMER DRONES AND WITH ONLY FOUR FOUR ROTORS, THEY'RE PRETTY LOUD. WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THESE ARE FLYING AT 200FT, THE FAA, WHEN IT COMES TO STANDARD PILOT OPERATIONS, REQUIRES A MINIMUM DISTANCE OF 500FT. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT, NOT JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS, BUT ALSO FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. SO WITH THESE THINGS FLYING LOWER THAN THAT, THERE'S A RISK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE THINGS BUZZING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS ALL THE TIME. AND IT'S GOING TO CREATE A PRETTY BIG ANNOYANCE TO A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. THESE THINGS DO DISRUPT ANIMALS. I HAVE SEEN ANIMALS GET FREAKED OUT BY HAVING THESE THINGS FLYING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS. SO DOGS THAT ARE OUT IN BACKYARDS CONTINUE TO BARK. THEY CREATE A NUISANCE FOR OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM. SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT GOOD FOR WILEY. WE ARE STILL SOMEWHAT OF A RURAL COMMUNITY, SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF WILDLIFE THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS SYSTEM. AND AGAIN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY, THESE THINGS DO CRASH. I'D BE CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE LIABILITY IF THESE THINGS CRASH INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, SO THIS HAS BEEN TRIED BEFORE. WE'VE SEEN COMPETITORS TO WALMART TRY TO BUILD A DELIVERY SERVICE. THEY HAVE BEEN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THESE CONCERNS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF. SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND DRONE OPERATIONS OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU CAN ADD THIS TO MY SHEET JACKIE TOBER,

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ALSO KNOWN AS JACKIE JACQUELINE WALTERS 635 LEGEND TRAIL, WYLIE, TEXAS 75098. FIRST AND FOREMOST, YEAH, RIGHT. LIKE I'M A SERIAL AMAZON SHOPPER. THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE MY LIFE, BUT MY SECOND JOB WOULD BE TO CHECK MYSELF OUT WHEN I GO SHOPPING IS DEFINITELY NOT WHAT I LIKE DOING. SO HAVING A DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE WOULD BE AWESOME, I DO. MY CONCERN IS IT'S ONLY LIKE TWO AND A HALF POUNDS, RIGHT? LIKE THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN, BUT I WAS REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE USING THOSE 1990, 1997 PHONE CAMERAS, BECAUSE I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE PHONES, THANK YOU FOR LAUGHING, AND ALSO THE PARKING, I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE. I MEAN, I THINK OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN SHOULDN'T BE WHERE THE OUR CITIZENS ARE PARKING, BUT KEEPING OUR EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY SAFE, PUTTING PUTTING THE THAT OVER THERE IN THE SIDE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PEOPLE ACTUALLY SEEING THEM WALK OUT IS KIND OF A SAFETY CONCERN. SO I'M KIND OF ON HER SIDE WHEN SHE SAID THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR CITIZENS, OUR PEOPLE AND JUST REALLY JUST KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE. I DO AGREE WITH THE HANDICAP SITUATION. MY FATHER IS HANDICAPPED. HE USES HIS HANDICAP PLACARD EVERYWHERE, AND I DO AGREE THEY'RE JUST. MAYBE THEY NEED TO REASSESS THEIR PARKING SITUATION AND GIVE MORE HANDICAP OPPORTUNITIES OR PERHAPS EVEN JUST AS A LITTLE PERSONAL NOTE, DON'T JUST GIVE THEM OUT TO EVERYBODY. GIVE THEM OUT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY HANDICAPPED, ABOUT IT BEING LOUD, THERE WAS A COMMENT IN THE BACK THAT DID MENTION, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE WILD HORSES THAT IF IT IS SUPER LOUD LIKE THAT, IT COULD CAUSE THE HORSES TO ROAM OR TO GO CRAZY. OUR NEIGHBOR HAS A HORSE, A HORSE, THE OTHER ONE PASSED AWAY, AND WE DO HAVE THAT DURING LIKE FIREWORKS SITUATIONS. THE HORSES DO GET A LITTLE FRAZZLED, BUT I LIKE THAT THEY'RE ONLY OPEN AND ONLY UTILIZING THEM DURING DAY HOURS. WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS, IS THAT THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF OBSERVING CITY ORDINANCES ON NOISE LEVEL, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I CAN BE PRETTY LOUD WHENEVER IT COMES TO A PARTY, AND I CAN DISTURB MY NEIGHBORS AT 9 OR 10:00 AT NIGHT. SO, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME. AND THEN ALSO, THERE WAS A QUESTION ON OBSTACLE AVOIDANCE. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO REQUEST THEM TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, SPECIFICALLY, THE QUESTION IN THE BACK WAS THAT THERE WAS PARAGLIDERS IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW WOULD THE DRONE, AVOID THEM? DO THEY HAVE AN OBSTACLE AVOIDANCE BUILT INTO THE DRONE OR, AND WHAT WHAT IS THE SITUATION IN THE EVENT THAT THEY DO CRASH? WHOSE FAULT IS IT? SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? OKAY. MISS STORM, PLEASE LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO SPEAK. SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I AM GOING TO REFER A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES HERE, I BELIEVE FROM A PRESCRIPTION STANDPOINT THAT WOULD BE HANDLED BY WHATEVER GUIDELINES ON DELIVERIES, SIMILAR TO A DOORDASH OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF DELIVERY SERVICE OUT THERE. I'M DALLAS BROOKS WITH WING AVIATION, ADDRESS, 318 WEST CHURCH AVENUE AND MEDINA, TENNESSEE, AND THE FORMER HEAD OF REGULATORY. AND NOW I WORK AVIATION. OUR OUTREACH PROGRAMS, AS TO THE PRESCRIPTION DRUG ISSUE. SO THIS IS REGULATED, ACTUALLY DUAL REGULATED STARTS WITH THE PIPELINE AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS SAFETY ADMINISTRATION. PHMSA WHICH REGULATES TRANSPORTATION OF DANGEROUS GOODS OF ALL TYPES IN ALL FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO PHMSA HAS VERY PRECISE RULES IDENTIFYING A WHAT THEY CONSIDER A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THINGS LIKE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN B AFTER PHMSA HAS HAS BASICALLY SAID WE'RE GOOD, THEN THE FAA HAS TO ADD THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL. ON TOP OF THAT. RIGHT. SO PART OF THAT PROCESS IS IDENTIFYING THE MATERIALS, MAKING SURE THAT CONTROLLED HANDLING PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE FOR EVERYONE WHO IN THE ENTIRE CHAIN OF CUSTODY, AND ONCE THOSE PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE, ENSURING CONTROLS FOR TRAINING TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S TRAINED TO APPROPRIATE LEVEL, CONTROLS FOR CONTROL, IN TERMS OF EVERY TIME THAT PROCESS HAPPENS, ARE WE LOGGING IT? ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT IT REACHED END TO END SAFELY? IS THERE FOLLOW UP THINGS OF THAT NATURE? SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT GOES INTO RECEIVING, A PERMIT TO, TO CARRY HAZARDOUS HAZARDOUS MATERIALS VIA THE AIR. RIGHT. WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AS ARE SEVERAL OF OUR WHAT I CALL OUR FRIENDLY COMPETITORS IN THE DRONE DELIVERY INDUSTRY. AS A PART 135 CERTIFIED AIR CARRIER, THIS IS THE SAME PART THAT REGULATES YOUR COMMUTER AIRLINES, RIGHT? WE UNDERGO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REGULATION.

SO THE FAA IS MOVING SLOWLY. PHMSA IS ACTUALLY KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL

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REASONS, BUT ONE IS THE ABILITY TO AS OPPOSED TO HAVING LARGER CONTAINERS WITH MULTIPLE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TRUCKS SHIPPED TO PLACES, AND HOW THOSE ARE BROKEN UP, THE IDEA OF USING WHAT WE CALL LIMITED QUANTITY EXCEPTIONS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WANTED TO DELIVER WATCH BATTERIES TO YOUR HOME, THOSE BATTERIES MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. BUT SINCE THEY'RE WATCH BATTERIES AND THEY'RE THIS BIG BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED QUANTITY, THE EFFECT SHOULD THOSE THINGS BE DROPPED OFF SOMEWHERE, FALL OUT OF THE CONTAINER, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS NEGLIGIBLE. AND SO THEY'RE QUICK TO SAY IN BULK WHEN WE'RE SHIPPING THESE THINGS FOR EXAMPLE, TO A WALMART STORE, THERE MIGHT BE HUNDREDS OF THEM, BUT INDIVIDUALLY THAT DAMAGE IS NEGLIGIBLE. SO QUANTITIES ARE A BIG ISSUE IN TERMS OF HOW PHMSA REVIEWS AND APPROVES APPLICATIONS. IT'S ABOUT OBVIOUSLY POTENTIAL DAMAGE, RIGHT? POTENTIAL IMPACTS. AND THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS YOU CAN YOU CAN MITIGATE THAT. YOU CAN MITIGATE THAT THROUGH CONTROLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS DON'T HAPPEN. AND THEN YOU CAN MITIGATE IT JUST BY SAYING THAT THE QUANTITIES THEMSELVES ARE SO NEGLIGIBLE THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. RIGHT. SO THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF IT. AND THEN AGAIN, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE MOVE ON AND GO THROUGH THE FAA'S PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM AN AVIATION STANDPOINT, THAT WE DO ALL OF THEIR REGULATIONS ABOUT CONTROL AND INVENTORY AND PROCESS. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THAT. AS TO THE NOISE ISSUE, THESE ARE NOT CONSUMER DRONES. SO OUR FIRST DRONE, OUR A MODEL THAT WE USED IN COMMERCIAL DRONE DELIVERY, WE WOULD GET SOMETIMES SOME NOISE COMPLAINTS WHEN WE WERE OPERATING IN AUSTRALIA. SO WE IMMEDIATELY WENT TO WORK REDESIGNING THE AIRPLANE. AND OUR NEXT VERSION, WE KNOCKED DOWN TEN DECIBELS. THAT'S LIKE A 50% REDUCTION IN NOISE FROM OUR ORIGINAL. THERE'S A REASON, LOTS OF REASONS WHY WE HAVE 12 VERY SMALL PROPELLERS, BECAUSE THE LONGER YOUR PROPELLER GETS, THE FASTER THE TIP OF THAT PROPELLER GOES AND THE MORE NOISE THAT IT MAKES. SO THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE THOSE 12 PROPELLERS AND THOSE FOUR FORWARD PROPELLERS DESIGNED AS WE DO WHEN THE AIRPLANE IS AT CRUISE ALTITUDE. YOU CAN'T HEAR IT ON THE GROUND.

THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE DON'T TAKE OFF AND GO DIAGONALLY, BECAUSE THEN WE'D BE CLIMBING AND EXPOSING A NOISE FOOTPRINT LONGER. WE GO TAKE OFF AND GO VERTICAL TO OUR CRUISE ALTITUDE AND MOVE STRAIGHT OUT. SO EXTRAORDINARILY QUIET. SINCE WE'VE MOVED TO THE B MODEL, OUR NOISE COMPLAINTS HAVE ESSENTIALLY DROPPED OFF THE EARTH. SO THE ONLY PERSON THAT'S HEARING THAT THAT AIRPLANE IS WHEN IT TAKES OFF FROM THE PAD AND WHEN THE DELIVERY IS MADE, WE GET DOWN TO 20FT. THE HOUSE AND THE POSSIBLY THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE. BUT NOTICES THAT THE REST OF THE TIME IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS THAT QUESTION. OKAY. WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON? I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON TWO THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND THAT WAS DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT YOUR RATE OF, INCORRECT LOCATION DELIVERY IS? SO WHERE IT'S DELIVERED TO THE WRONG LOCATION? I DON'T THINK THAT'S. YEAH. BECAUSE WE VERIFY WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR THE APP AND YOU DOWNLOAD THE APP AND YOU SAY, THIS IS MY HOME, THERE'S A VERIFICATION PROCESS THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. AND THEN YOU ALSO SPECIFY WHERE IN YOUR YARD OR DRIVEWAY YOU WANT THE PACKAGE DELIVERED. SO THERE'S SEVERAL STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. AND YOU KNOW, CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE TO CHECK ADDRESSES, DO THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO FAR I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ISSUE. OKAY. AND THIS IS 400,000 COMMERCIAL DELIVERIES WE'VE MADE. THUS FAR OKAY. AND THE LAST ONE I THINK, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT OBSTACLE AVOIDANCE. SO WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE DO HAVE SOME PARAGLIDERS WHO GO OUT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

THEY HAVE THE LITTLE SEAT WITH THE FAN BEHIND IT. I CALL IT A FAN, BUT THEY DO POWERED PARACHUTES. YES ABSOLUTELY. THEY THEY'RE OUT. BUT ALSO OCCASIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE A NEED TO CALL DPS HELICOPTER, UNFORTUNATELY, OR SOMETHING OR A LIFE FLIGHT OR WHATEVER IT IS. I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY THEY HAVE A MECHANISM BUILT IN TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INTERFERING. THEY DO. SO THERE'S SO MANY LEVELS OF PROTECTION, FIRST OFF, WHEN YOU'RE FLYING AS LOW AS WE'RE FLYING, MOST PEOPLE ARE PROHIBITED FROM FLYING THERE.

BUT BUT EXCEPTIONS ARE HELICOPTERS. RIGHT. AND ULTRALIGHTS POWERED PARACHUTES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT YOUR ORDINARY LIKE I FLEW HERE MYSELF FROM MY HOME IN TENNESSEE. FLEW INTO MESQUITE AIRPORT. I CAN'T FLY THAT LOW WITHOUT VIOLATING BECAUSE BELOW 500FT OVER SPARSELY POPULATED AREAS VERBOTEN BELOW 1000FT OVER POPULATED AREAS. VERBOTEN. I CAN'T FLY THAT LOW. SO FOR THE MOST PART, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE GENERAL AVIATION POPULATION IS NOT NECESSARILY A FACTOR FOR THOSE THAT NEED TO BE THERE. SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOOSE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS IS BECAUSE FAA REGULATIONS REQUIRE AIRCRAFT THAT ARE CAPABLE OF DOING SO OF WHAT'S CALLED SQUAWKING, TRANSMITTING THEIR POSITION, WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING IN THIS AIRSPACE, WE HAVE SENSORS ON BOARD OUR AIRCRAFT THAT PICK UP THAT SQUAWK AND MANEUVER AS NECESSARY TO AVOID THOSE AIRCRAFT. RIGHT NOW, PARAGLIDERS AND POWERED PARACHUTES, ETC. AREN'T SET UP TO SQUAWK, SO WE ALSO HAVE A NETWORK OF WHAT WE CALL VISUAL OBSERVERS THAT ARE SCANNING THE SKIES TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE SEE ANY, ANY ACTIVITY LIKE THAT,

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WE SHUT DOWN OPERATIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA OR REROUTE AROUND IT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK THAT WAS THE BREADTH OF QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD PRESENTED DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, I DO WANT TO ASK MR. HASKINS A QUICK QUESTION. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. SO, MR. HASKINS, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BIT, BUT I BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION ABOUT THE STORAGE. YES, SIR. HOW WOULD YOU IF THAT WERE TO BE INCLUDED IN A MOTION, SINCE THEY ARE OPEN TO THAT BEING PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF IT, HOW WOULD STAFF APPRECIATE THAT BEING WORDED? WE CAN JUST SAY THAT THE STORAGE CONTAINER NEEDS TO BE MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURE, ALONG WITH THE, GENERATOR, YOU KNOW, GOING TO SHORE POWER, AND WE'LL HANDLE IT FROM THERE, WHICH MEANS BECAUSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO. RIGHT. EXACTLY. WE CAN. YEAH. WE CAN. YEAH, WE'LL HANDLE THAT AT THE STAFF LEVEL ONCE THAT. AND IF THEY, THEY NEED TO HAVE THOSE TWO THINGS IN PLACE BY OCTOBER 31ST, 2025 OR YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION REAL QUICK. SURE, I KNOW COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS MENTIONED ABOUT MOVING IT THE, THE SITE, THE LAST ITEM ON THE SUP DOES SAY THAT THIS ZONING EXHIBIT COUNTS AS THE SITE PLAN. SO IF IT IS APPROVED WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH IF THAT NEEDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE MOTION.

ALSO IF THAT'S THE WISH OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO P AND Z FOR FURTHER, FURTHER CONSIDERATION AFTER THIS EVENING. OKAY. SO JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND IF NOT I'D BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN MALIK, MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE ITEM WITH THE CHANGES OF THE LOOK OF THE STRUCTURE, THE LOOK AND PERMANENTLY LOOK IN THE PERMANENT. YES OF THE STRUCTURE.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN DUKE? YES. MR. MAYOR, I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED WITH A SECOND COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SO WITH THAT, THAT COMPLETES ITEM TWO. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM THREE.

[3. Consider, and act upon, the payment request for the previously budgeted Stream and Wetland Mitigation Fees for McMillen Road from McCreary Road to Country Club Road, in the amount of $1,062,996 and authorizing the City Manager to execute any necessary documents.]

ITEM THREE IS TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. ITEM THREE IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PAYMENT REQUEST FOR THE PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED STREAM AND WETLAND MITIGATION FEES FOR MCMILLAN ROAD. FOR MCCRARY ROAD TO COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,062,996, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. MISS AL-KHALID. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT. SO, AS STATED ON THE AGENDA, THIS WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED, IN A NUTSHELL, DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE ON MCMILLAN, WE ARE IMPACTING THE WETLAND AREAS. SO THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT THAT TAKES PLACE IS QUANTIFIED. AND THEN GIVEN WHAT WE'RE CALLING DEBITS, THEN THERE ARE MITIGATION BANKS THAT GO IN AND PURCHASE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, RESTORE THEM. AND THEY HAVE WHAT WE CALL CREDITS.

SO WE BASICALLY HAVE TO BALANCE IT OUT. SO WE'RE TAKING THE AMOUNT OF DEBITS THAT WE'VE CAUSED FOR CONSTRUCTION ON MCMILLAN PURCHASING THE CREDITS. THAT ALSO TRANSFERS THE LIABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY. IT MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CLEAN WATER ACT. WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS WITH THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

TRANSFERS. THE LIABILITY TRANSFERS, THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS OVER TO THIS MITIGATION BANK. OKAY. AND JUST TO AGAIN, I KNOW IT WAS SOMEWHAT STATED IN READING THE ITEM, BUT THIS WAS PART OF THE BUDGETED, PROJECT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. COUNCIL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. IS THIS OPTIONAL? NO GOOD POINT. NO, THIS IS CLEAN WATER ACT FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE ON. GOOD. GOOD POINT, COUNCILMAN STRANG. YEAH, IT JUST SOUNDS KIND OF INTERESTING. WE BUY CREDITS AND. AND THEN WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO? SO IT BASICALLY GOES INTO RESTORING OTHER AREAS. SO THERE ARE PRIVATE, EXCUSE ME, PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT PURCHASE DIFFERENT AREAS OF LAND AND THEY RESTORE THEM TO PROTECT THOSE PROTECTED AQUATIC RESOURCES. THE FEDERALLY PROTECTED WETLANDS, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A TRADE OFF. SO, WE'RE PAYING SO THERE'S A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE COMPANY THEY'VE PAID TO RESTORE A DIFFERENT PIECE OF LAND AHEAD OF

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OUR CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN WE'RE NOW PAYING FOR THE NEGATIVE THAT WE'RE CAUSING. WE'RE CAUSING THIS DEFICIT. CARBON CREDIT SIN. DO WHAT? IT'S KIND OF LIKE CARBON CREDITS. YEAH, IT KIND OF. IT ALL BALANCES OUT. YEAH? YEAH. OKAY. I CAN HAVE ANOTHER WORD COMES TO MIND, BUT I JUST WON'T SAY IT. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT THEN I'D BE I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM.

MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN STRING? THANK YOU. MAYOR. SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO APPROVE. COUNCIL, CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO WITH THAT. THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS, AS IT HAS BEEN AN EXTENDED PERIOD SO FAR. I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE JUST A QUICK BREAK AND LET YOU GUYS GET THAT QUEUED UP FOR US

[WS1. Discuss the currently proposed Downtown Project lane, parking, and sidewalk configuration.]

I WITH THAT, I WILL CONVENE US BACK INTO SESSION. AND WE ARE IN OUR WORK SESSION PORTION OF THE AGENDA THIS EVENING AND WORK SESSION ONE, WHICH IS TO. DISCUSS THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED DOWNTOWN PROJECT LANE PARKING AND SIDEWALK CONFIGURATIONS. OKIE DOKE. HELLO AGAIN. MY NAME IS JANINE AL-KHALID. I'M THE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF WYLIE, AND I'M. WE WANTED TO GO OVER JUST KIND OF A STATUS UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT AND ALSO GET SOME ADDITIONAL, FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL SO WE CAN HAVE A CLEAR PATH MOVING FORWARD. SO ON AUGUST SEVENTH, WE HAD A STAKEHOLDER MEETING AN, WE WENT OVER A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS. WE WENT OVER THE POSSIBILITY OF THE ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS, THE LANE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS, AND IMPACT TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, CONCLUSION FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WAS THEY WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE ONE LANE CONFIGURATIONS. THEY UNANIMOUSLY PREFERRED THAT OPTION IN AN EFFORT TO MAXIMIZE THE PEDESTRIAN SPACE. AND THERE WAS TALK OF CONSIDERING ONLY IMPROVING SOME OF THE ALLEYS, IMPROVING THESE ALLEYS WILL PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BETTER DELIVERY. ACCESS BACK PATIO SEATING, STRINGING LIGHTS ACROSS BALLARD STREET AND MAKE IT MORE FEASIBLE AND EASIER TO CLOSE BALLARD STREET FOR EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THE FIRST OPTION WE LOOKED AT WAS A TWO LANE UNIMPROVED ALLEY OPTION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TWO 11 FOOT WIDE LANES COMING DOWN BALLARD STREET WITH A TWO FOOT BUFFER AND THEN PARALLEL STALLS ON EITHER SIDE.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR 18FT OF PEDESTRIAN SPACE ON BOTH SIDES OF BALLARD STREET. BENEFITS ARE IT IMPROVES VEHICULAR TRAFFIC FLOW. IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND FIRE ACCESS COMING DOWN BALLARD STREET. CHALLENGES WITH THIS DESIGN ARE GOING TO BE THAT WE ARE DEVIATING FROM THE ORIGINAL ONE LANE PLAN, IN ALLOWING A TWO LANE OPTION, IT GIVES A SECOND LANE TO PASS AROUND SLOWER TRAFFIC. THERE CAN BE A CONCERN WITH INCREASED TRAVEL SPEEDS. IF WE HAVE THIS OPTION, AND IT COULD BE SEEN AS NOT AS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AS THAT, SINGLE LANE OPTION. SO THIS IS WHAT THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR A TWO LANE DOWN BALLARD. THE NEXT OPTION IS IF WE CONSIDER IMPROVING THE ALLEYS. SO THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT ALLEYS. WE CAN LOOK AT IMPROVING THE ONE BETWEEN BIRMINGHAM AND JACKSON AND THEN THE ONES ON EITHER SIDE OF BALLARD STREET. SO WITH A ONE LANE OPTION, WE WOULD BE IMPROVING THE ALLEYS. AND IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE 23FT OF PEDESTRIAN SPACE ON BOTH SIDES OF BALLARD, WITH A SINGLE 12 FOOT LANE COMING DOWN THE CENTER OF BALLARD STREET, ONCE AGAIN, IMPROVING THE ALLEYS CAN IMPROVE THE DELIVERY AND SERVICE TRUCKS TO GO TO THE BACK END IN THE ALLEYS. CREATES THE POSSIBILITY FOR ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN CORRIDORS. AND IT KEEPS US WITH THAT ORIGINAL PLAN OF A SINGLE LANE. AND IN, REALLY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN SPACE ALONG BALLARD. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ARE GOING TO BE THE ADDITIONAL COST. THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH VARYING UTILITIES, PURCHASING RIGHT OF WAY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS A REALITY, THERE IS ALSO A CONCERN THAT THE ALLEYS, IF IMPROVED AND WIDENED, COULD BE UTILIZED AS CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC OPTIONS. SO THAT'S THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW FOR A SINGLE LANE COMING DOWN. BALLARD SO THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. AND THEN THAT'S JUST THE TWO OPTIONS STACKED ON TOP. SO WE CAN SEE, REALLY THE DIFFERENCE WITHIN THOSE

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SECTIONS. AND THEN BEFORE WE GO TO THE DISCUSSION, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU GUYS JUST A QUICK VIDEO. AND THE DESIGN ENGINEER I'M SORRY I FAILED TO MENTION HIM PREVIOUSLY. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM KIMLEY-HORN ALSO HERE, MR. NATHAN NJOO. SO NATHAN AND HIS TEAM PUT TOGETHER A 3D MODEL TO HELP US HAVE MORE OF A REAL FEEL OF WHAT DOWNTOWN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO THIS VIDEO IS A MINUTE, MINUTE AND A HALF, AND IT'S GOING TO SHOW US, THIS IS THIS ONE THAT WE'LL PLAY. FIRST IS THE TWO LANE OPTION. WILL IT BE THAT QUIET? NO GUARANTEES. THANK YOU. I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. SO THIS IS WHAT THE TWO LANES. SO WE WOULD HAVE 18FT OF PEDESTRIAN SPACE ON EITHER SIDE. IT FEELS MUCH SLOWER WHEN I'M STANDING UP HERE. TIME IS RELATIVE AS THEY SAY. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE TWO LANE OPTION. NOW, IF WE SWITCH OVER TO OUR SINGLE LANE OPTION. AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE 23FT ON EITHER SIDE FOR PEDESTRIAN SPACE.

YOU'RE SMILING. IT LOOKS LIKE THE GHOST TOURS HAVE ADDED A FEW PEOPLE DOWN THERE. THIS IS THE GHOST TOUR FOR DOWNTOWN. THEY'RE ALL. THEY'RE ALL TRANSPARENT INDIVIDUALS. SO EVEN THE ANIMAL.

IT'LL BE A NEW FEATURE FOR DOWNTOWN. AND THE STREET SECTION. ALRIGHTY. AND SO THAT'S THE 3D SIMULATION FOR THE SINGLE LANE. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO GO BACK TO ANY OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ONE JUST REAL QUICK? I DON'T I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE TALKED AND, SO FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, RENEE AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW TO, POTENTIALLY, TRY BEFORE WE BUY. SO TO SPEAK, WE DO HAVE THE MONEY TO CHANGE BALLARD TO ONE WAY TO PUNCH BIRMINGHAM THROUGH TO DO THE STRIPING, SO I THINK THAT GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TRY THE ONE LANE OR THE TWO LANE CONFIGURATION. TRY PARALLEL PARKING. I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO PARALLEL PARK, SO, I'M PROBABLY NOT A FAN OF THAT, BUT OTHER PEOPLE MAY BE A FAN OF THAT. SO IT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY A PARALLEL PARKING DOWNTOWN TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THE BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN. YOU KNOW, SEE THE BENEFIT IN THAT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, RENEE HAS HAD THIS VISION IN HER HEAD FOR PROBABLY 20 YEARS OF WHAT DOWNTOWN COULD BE, BUT, THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO. I THINK CRAIG AND RENEE MET TOMMY DOWN THERE, TO DISCUSS TAKING 4 OR 5 PARKING SPACES MID-BLOCK. THAT WAY, WE'RE NOT, I GUESS, PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT'S IN FRONT OF SO-AND-SO'S BUSINESS, OR IT'S IN FRONT OF SO-AND-SO'S BUSINESS. IT'S JUST MID-BLOCK. THAT'S JUST WHERE WE PICKED MID-BLOCK TO TRY AND EXTEND THE PARKING LOT OUT OR THE SIDEWALK OUT TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT EVERYTHING WOULD LOOK LIKE, AGAIN, BEFORE WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DOWN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF IT, WE'RE STUCK WITH IT, SO I THINK THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY

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SOME OF THOSE THINGS OUT, BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY DELVE INTO THIS. SO I JUST WANTED TO I TALKED TO THE MAYOR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THE REST OF YOU UP TO SPEED ON THAT. OKAY SO I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS EVENING IS HAVING GONE BACK.

JUST ANY COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN MALIKI? YEAH. THANKS, MAYOR. I SAID IT LAST TIME, AND I STILL STAND, I DON'T THINK THE ONE LANE WORKS AT ALL. PARALLEL PARKING, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO MUCH HERE IN TEXAS AND SPECIFICALLY IN WYLIE. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LINE OUT THE DOOR ALL THE WAY TO 78 PEOPLE TRYING TO PARK, WAITING FOR A PARKING SPOT, BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE COMES. CISCO TRUCK COMES IN TO DELIVER FOOD AT ONE OF THE ESTABLISHMENTS THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN MIDDLE BLOCK AND PARK. SO I THINK ONE LANE IS JUST GOING TO NO, THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT WOULD BE THOSE ALLEYWAYS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR DELIVERIES. YOU CAN AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT ALLEYWAYS, WITHOUT SPENDING THE MONEY WITH ALLEYWAYS AND GETTING RIGHT OF WAY AND EXPANDING THEM AND DOING BIGGER THAN THEY ARE.

THEY CURRENTLY DELIVER IN THE ALLEY. OKAY, EITHER WAY, MY WIFE PARKING DOWNTOWN, YOU'LL TAKE 20 MINUTES TO DO A PARALLEL PARKING DOWNTOWN, WHICH WILL BACK OUT THE TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY TO 78.

SO I'M FOR TWO LANES AND THAT'S WHERE I AM. OKAY SO COUNCILMAN HOOVER, NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE STAKEHOLDERS WANTED THE SINGLE LANE. YES WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING, ALL OF THE ATTENDEES AT THE LAST STAKEHOLDER MEETING TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE, YES. THEY UNANIMOUSLY PREFERRED THE SINGLE LANE OPTION. OKAY COUNCILMAN STRANG, I THINK I AGREE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS. I THINK THE SINGLE LANE IS GOING TO GIVE THEM THE GREATEST BENEFIT WITH THE SIDEWALKS. I THINK THAT THE 3D MODELING VIDEO BY THE WAY, MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SEEING WHAT THIS WILL VISUALIZE. IT REALLY HELPS. IT'S A TREMENDOUS SPACE.

I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT DRIVERS, BUT HEY, THAT AIN'T EVER GOING TO GO AWAY. SO PRETTY SOON I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE DRIVING CARS ANYMORE ANYWAY. SO I THINK I LIKE THE YEAH, IT'LL ALL BE DRONES AND WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE PARKING SPECIFICALLY HERE WITH THESE IMAGES THAT WE'RE SEEING. BUT WITH THE GREATER DOWNTOWN PLAN, THERE WILL BE ANGLED PARKING BETWEEN OAK AND 78, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL PARKING ON SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS. I THINK THIS WILL ULTIMATELY WORK. IT WILL BE A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR SOME FOLKS, BUT WE'LL GET USED TO IT.

OKAY, COUNCILMAN DUKE, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IT LOOKS GREAT. I LIKE IT, I KIND OF DISAGREE WITH THE PARALLEL PARKING. I HAVE A KID, AND HE CAN'T PARALLEL PARK WORTH A DARN. SO THAT PART SCARES ME. I WOULD JUST SAY TAKE ALL THE PARALLEL PARKING OUT AND HAVE MORE SPACE FOR WALKERS. BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING. I WAS GOING TO SAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I WANT TO OPEN IT UP BEFORE TO ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AS BRANT MENTIONED, STAFF IS LOOKING AT BIRMINGHAM. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ONE WAY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY I'LL CALL IT A DUAL BUMP OUT DOWNTOWN AT THE MID-BLOCK SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET SOME TABLES OUT THERE AND KIND OF HAVE A VISION OF WHAT THEY OF WHAT IT WOULD BE, AND SO OBVIOUSLY THE STRIPING FOR THE HEAD IN PARKING BETWEEN 78 AND OAK AND PLACES LIKE THAT IS SIMPLE TO, TO ADD, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING THEM MOVE THAT WAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE FEEDBACK, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO EXPLORE SOME OTHER FUNDING AVENUES, IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT. WE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. THROUGH FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAMS AS WELL AS, A LITTLE LOCAL NCT COG RTC FOR THOSE WHO LIKE LOTS OF LETTERS, BE TALKING TO THEM AS WELL ABOUT POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS THROUGH THOSE TWO AVENUES. BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A GENERAL PLAN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE EVEN EVEN BALLPARK NUMBERS TO PRESENT TO THEM. SO ANY OTHER COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? THANK YOU. MAYOR, SO, JANINE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, HELP ME. REMEMBER THE CHANGES FROM THE, STUDIES THAT WE DID, YOU

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KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND WHAT WE LANDED ON WITH THAT ONE WAY AND TURNING JACKSON TWO WAY, BIRMINGHAM ONE WAY, AND WHAT CHANGED IN THE PREVIOUS WORK SESSION AS FAR AS OUR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, THAT WE HAD PLANNED VERSUS WHERE WE ARE NOW? BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING ON THESE IS IT REFLECTS THAT PREVIOUS, PLAN. SO I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMETHING AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED AN EXPLANATION IN AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING, BUT SO ULTIMATELY WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE SINGLE LANE ON BALLARD IS US GOING BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL PLAN. IT IS. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I KIND OF SAW. YEP SO WITH THAT, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. IF WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THAT AFTER ALL THOSE STUDIES THAT WERE DONE AND THE.

YEAH, THIS IS STILL TAKING THOSE STUDIES INTO CONSIDERATION, I WOULD SAY THEY'D BE BETTER TO HAVE THE PARALLEL PARKING THAN NOT HAVE ANY AT ALL, EVEN THOUGH IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE THAT EXTRA SIDEWALK SPACE. I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT, THAT WHEN TRAFFIC IS DOWN, IT'S THAT IT WOULD FILL. BUT, WITH US CONTINUING TO DO THE SQUARE DESIGN THAT THAT WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH, I WOULD, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. OKAY. OKAY SO I THINK YOU HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE FROM THE GROUP. SO, EXCITED TO SEE THAT MOVE FORWARD AND GET UPDATES ON PARKING AND SIGNAL LIGHTS AND ALL THE ALL THE STEPS FORWARD THAT WE'LL BE MAKING. SO HOPEFULLY GET AN UPDATE FROM YOU ALL, MAYBE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR THAT AT LEAST AN UPDATE ON THE WORK SESSION, IF YOU'D LIKE, ON WHERE WE'RE AT, WELL, AND JUST KEEP US UPDATED ON OKAY, WHAT YOU GUYS HEAR BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S CONTRACTS AND TEX DOT AND LOTS OF MOVING PIECES. SO ALRIGHTY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO STAYED AND WAITED THIS EVENING BEFORE I DO CLOSE OUT THE WORK SESSION. WAS THERE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK FROM OUR I KNOW I SEE SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA HAVE STAYED SO, COME ON DOWN. I APPRECIATE IT IF PEOPLE HAVE WAITED SEVERAL HOURS TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT. I KNOW YOU'VE COMMENTED SEVERAL TIMES ALONG THE WAY, BUT I STILL LIKE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN THESE WORK SESSIONS. SO ADD THIS ONE TO MY SHEET AS WELL. PLEASE JACKIE TOBER LEGAL NAME JACQUELINE WALTERS 635 LEGEND TRAIL, WYLIE, TEXAS 75098I AM A PART A MEMBER OF THE WYLIE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION, AND I WAS IN AN AMAZING, DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO DURING OUR REGULAR MEETING AND IT WAS SO AWESOME TO HEAR ALL OF THE AMAZING WORK THAT THE CITY OF WYLIE IS DOING TO BEAUTIFY OUR DOWNTOWN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, OTHER PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IS THE PARALLEL PARKING. I AM AMAZING PARALLEL PARKER AND I CAN GET IT DONE IN ONE SHOT. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, JUST TRY IT. BUT I WILL SAY THE SIZE OF TRUCKS HAS GOTTEN LARGER, SO HEAD IN TRAFFIC IS DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. IF YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING MAYBE NOT WIDENING THE STREET AS MUCH, IF THAT'S EVEN AN OPTION, I'D LIKE TO DETER THAT, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO WALK ARM IN ARM AND SOME SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO WALK WITH THEIR KIDS ON THEIR SIDE. AND WHEN YOU HAVE A TINY LITTLE SPACE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THA. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE A BABY PUSHING A STROLLER, SOME MIGHT HAVE TWO, AND IT'S A SIDE BY SIDE AND NOT A FRONT BACK. SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS IS HOW WE LOVE TO HAVE OUR FAMILIES HERE, AND THAT IS ONE THING THAT I LOVE ABOUT THE CITY OF WYLIE IS THAT WE ARE FAMILY FRIENDLY, ANOTHER THING IS I LIKE THE ONE LANE IDEA BECAUSE IT WIDENS IT, RIGHT? IT GIVES US THAT 12FT. IT GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS TO PUT THEIR THINGS OUTSIDE AND MAKE IT MORE OF A WALKING TRAFFIC SO THAT RAQUEL ZAGORA, OUR BOUTIQUE AND BAKERY OWNER, SHE CAN GO OUT AND PUT SOME SOME HANGERS OUTSIDE SO PEOPLE CAN WALK BY AND SEE WHAT SHE'S ACTUALLY SELLING, OR WE CAN HAVE BOLD BARBECUE, GO AND PUT SOME OUTDOOR SEATING OR VILLA VINCI, PUT SOME OF THEIR OUTDOOR SEATING OUT THERE. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT LANDON HAS PEOPLE THAT SIT OUTSIDE, AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE AROUND THEM WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE AT THOSE TEENY TINY TABLES. AND I THINK THEY CALL THEM BISTRO TABLES. I CALL THEM TEENY TINY TABLES. THOSE ARE CHILDREN TABLES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT ENJOYMENT, OUTDOOR ENJOYMENT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A HANDHELD NOW AND EVERYBODY'S DOING ALL OF THE THINGS TO NOT BE OUTSIDE. AND SO ANYTHING THAT PROVIDES THAT AND BRINGS THAT BACK TO LIFE IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEREMY MEYER, 6913 TAYLOR LANE,

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I'M ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDER, I JUST NOT MUCH MORE TO ADD, EXCEPT THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF I CAN, IT WAS PRETTY UNANIMOUS AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THIS PLAN. IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR. WAS IT NOT FIVE YEARS? 20 YEARS? YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME. AND I WON'T BELABOR. I WON'T BELABOR THAT JUST TO SAY THAT THAT THE OUTDOOR IMPROVING DOWNTOWN TO MAKE IT AN ENVIRONMENT SUITABLE FOR PEDESTRIAN AND OUTDOOR DINING AND OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY SINGLE MERCHANT WANTS. GETTING THERE CAN VARY BIT TO BIT PARALLEL PARKING CAN BE AN ISSUE FOR SOME, FOR OTHERS THERE'S 25 50FT OVER. THERE'S DIAGONAL STRIPE PARKING. AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN SOME OF THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS, THE PARKING THAT WE ARE REMOVING FROM THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK, THE 100 BLOCK OF NORTH BALLARD, IS ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, WE'RE MORE THAN DOUBLING THAT ON THE SIDE STREETS. WE'RE RESTRIPING THE SIDE STREETS. WE'RE PUTTING DIAGONAL PARKING, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE VISIBLE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN, GOING WITH THIS PLAN THAN THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY, SO I THINK THE PERCEPTION IS GOING TO BE GREAT. KIND OF THE TRY BEFORE YOU BUY, BECAME, YOU KNOW, A STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE, PUTTING PAINT ON THE GROUND IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. AND PROVING THE SIDEWALKS IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. WAYPOINT, WAYPOINT SIGNAGE IS NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT WE CAN DO TO REALLY IMPROVE DOWNTOWN IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THIS PROJECT. SO THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. WELL, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING UPDATES AND WE'LL CALL IT SOMETIME NEXT YEAR. MOST LIKELY GETTING SOME SHOVELS, MOVING ON SOME DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF IT. IS THAT A FAIR, FAIR TIMELINE? NEXT YEAR SOMETIME, MR. PARKER? YEAH. I DON'T GIVE TIMELINES ANY LONGER.

HE'S ACTING ENGINEER. YEAH, WE WILL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. BRETT STOWERS MAY GIVE YOU A TIMELINE. I DON'T KNOW, I LEARNED FROM HIS MISTAKE. YEAH. 2025 ISH. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO WORK. SESSION NUMBER

[WS2. Discuss the proposed Silverlake multi-family and commercial retail development generally located at the southeast corner of State Highway 78 and Alanis Drive.]

TWO, THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED SILVER LAKE MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY 78 AND ALLEN EAST DRIVE.

AND, MR. HASKINS, I'LL LET YOU INTRODUCE. I BELIEVE THERE IS A PRESENTATION. YES, SIR, GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND. ME AND TECHNOLOGY ARE NOT GETTING ALONG TONIGHT. THERE WE GO. GOT THAT.

ALL RIGHT, SO, YEAH, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A WORK SESSION THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, COUNCIL FEEDBACK FOR THE. WHAT A LITTLE OVER 20 ACRES, ON WHAT IS FORMERLY THE DISTRICT. AREA, OF WYLIE AND IF YOU RECALL, THE APPLICANT HAD PUT IN A ZONING CASE TO MODIFY THE EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THROUGH THE FACT THAT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS AND WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT IN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, COUNCIL ULTIMATELY DENYING THAT PARTICULAR ZONING REQUEST. AND SO THEY'RE BACK TO JUST DISCUSS PARTICULAR OPTIONS SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH A, A PLAN. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU WOULD FOR STATE YOUR NAME AND IT CAN BE THE BUSINESS ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD THOUGH, FOR US. SURE. JAMES DILLON, CRESTLINE INVESTORS, 201 MAIN STREET, FORT WORTH, TEXAS 76102. SO CRESTLINE, WE'RE WE'RE A FORT WORTH BASED FIRM, I THINK WE'VE OBVIOUSLY WORKED WITH LEVI WILD HERE, I THINK IT JUST HELPS TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND KIND OF ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. HOW WHY WE'RE WHY WE'RE HOW WE GOT INVOLVED. WHY WE GOT INVOLVED, WE WERE PREVIOUSLY A LENDER ON THE PROPERTY TO THE INVESTOR, WE MADE A LOAN AT THE END OF 2021, KIND OF SHORTLY THEREAFTER ON OUR LOAN. WELL, PART OF OUR LOAN WAS, WAS BASED ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN IN PLACE TODAY, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY ENTITLEMENTS, PART OF THE REASON WE'RE KIND OF HERE TODAY IS THAT THE PLAN DIDN'T WORK. SO

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