[Library Advisory Board on July 22, 2024.]
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7 P.M. ON JULY 22ND. CALL TO ORDER THE WILEY LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING, FIRST UP, WE HAVE OUR STAFF SPOTLIGHT. MISS CARMEN RAMIREZ, OUR LIBRARY TECHNICIAN. CARMEN, WILL YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE? THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BUTTON RIGHT THERE. CAN WE PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND? I'M HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY. OH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED DOWN HERE. WHAT HAPPENED? I'M NOT SURE. YOU MAY NEED TO COME DOWN HERE FOR A MOMENT. OH, I CAN DO THAT. I THINK I GOT INTO THE WRONG THING. MAYBE I SAID START MEETING, BUT THEN IT CAME TO THIS. LIKE WE WANT TO SAY NO. THERE. BUT. OH. OKAY, JUST GO TO FILE. OPEN I DON'T KNOW WHERE. SAY, NOW GO TO MEETING STATUS. LET'S GO HERE. HOME. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S ON THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS. AND THEN IT, LIKE, TOOK ME BACK INTO THE THING AS IF I WAS DOING SOMETHING. OKAY OKAY. I HOPE THAT'S RIGHT. GOOD. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S OKAY. THIS IS CARMEN. HI, GUYS, I'M CARMEN. CARMEN REMIND ME HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN WITH US. THAT'S AT WORK.
YES. YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, BEING WITH THE LIBRARY FOR ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OVER TEN YEARS. AND CARMEN IS ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING WOMEN I KNOW. SHE WORKS VERY HARD AND HAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST. GOOD MORNING. YOU'VE EVER HEARD. LIKE, WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR. GOOD MORNING. SHE'S ALWAYS JUST HAPPY TO SEE YOU. SO TAKE IT AWAY, CARMEN, BECAUSE I LOVE MY JOB. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOVE YOUR JOB, YOU'RE JUST HAPPY TO BE THERE AND YOU JUST GENERATE IT AND EVERYBODY. WELL EVERYBODY'S REALLY NICE OVER THERE. SO ANYWAY, I JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. I.
YOU'LL SEE ME SOMETIMES UP AT THE FRONT CIRCULATION DESK AND THERE WILL ISSUE CARDS OR HELP WITH THE FAX MACHINE. FINDS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. BUT MOST OF THE THINGS THAT I DO IS IN THE BACK. SO LIKE LIKE I ORGANIZE THE BACK ROOM, I GET CARTS READY. I SHALL NOW THE NEW THING WE'RE DOING IS THE DRIVE THROUGH WITH A CLICK AND COLLECT. SO WE'RE DOING THAT NOW. THAT'S ADDED A LITTLE BIT TO US. AND TODAY MISS OPHELIA, OUR BOARD WAS FULL BECAUSE WE HAVE AN APP.
WE HAVE AN APP NOW AND PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PLACE THEIR HOLES AND, AND SAY, HEY, I'M ON MY WAY. THEY'RE STILL ADJUSTING TO IT. AND SO ARE WE. BUT TODAY THE WHOLE BOARD WAS FULL AND WE'RE LIKE, YES, WE TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. OH, THAT'S SO COOL. SO I LOVE THAT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I DO. BEFORE THE LIBRARY, I DID WORK AT THE CITY OF IRVING. I ALSO WORKED AT THE LIBRARY THERE FOR THREE YEARS. AND BEFORE THAT I WORKED LIKE OVER 25 YEARS WITH BOOKSTORES. SO I RAN BOOKSTORES.
AND THEN NOW I'M AT THE LIBRARY. THAT'S ME. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR LIBRARY. YOU GUYS DO GREAT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CARMEN? HI, CARMEN. YOU SAID THAT YOU ALSO DEALT WITH FINES. DO YOU SEE THAT A LOT OF PATRONS COME IN FOR THAT REASON, YOU KNOW, NOT A LOT, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF CIRCULATION. IT'S TO COLLECT THEIR FINES, BUT NO, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE, LIKE, AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL ON THEM. SO THE FINES DON'T REALLY ACCRUED AS FAST AS THEY USED TO YEARS PAST. SO NOW THEY INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEIR BOOK FOR THREE WEEKS, THEY CAN KEEP IT UP TO NINE. SO SOMETIMES THE FINES ARE VERY MINIMAL, YOU KNOW. AND WE HOLD LIKE LITTLE NOT FUNDRAISING. WHAT IS IT CALLED LIKE AMNESTY. YEAH. SO WE WAIVE FEES FOR THEM. LIKE IF THEY BRING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AT THAT POINT. SO NOT REALLY. BUT THAT'S PART OF MY JOB AT CIRCULATION WITH A NICE SMILE. YES AND SINCE. SO YEAH THAT'S ME. ANY QUESTIONS? CARMEN JUST THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING SO WELCOMING AT THE LIBRARY AND HELPING ME OUT. SO YOU'RE AWESOME. CARMEN KNOWS ALL OUR PATRONS, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS CARMEN. YEAH, I REMEMBER YOU, TOO. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD NIGHT GUYS.
HAVE FUN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CARMEN. OH, WILL YOU TURN THAT MIC OFF FOR ME, PLEASE? THANK YOU. MA'AM I FORGOT LAST TIME TOO. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE WONDERFUL. YAY WELL, YOU MENTIONED THAT, YES, ALL PRESENT MINUS, MR. ZACHARY TODD. THANK
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YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR, CONSENT AGENDA REVIEW AND APPROVE, THE JUNE 24TH MEETING MINUTES, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TAKING A MOMENT TO LOOK OVER THOSE, PLEASE. THIS MAY BE A GOOD TIME TO POINT OUT THAT THE, CITY COUNCIL JUST GAVE DIRECTION TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO MINUTES. SO RIGHT NOW, WE DO, LIKE, A SUMMARY TYPE THING. THEY'RE MOVING TO WHAT IS IT CALLED, AN ACTION ACTION MINUTES. YES. SO A LOT OF CITIES ARE ADOPTING THIS. AND SO COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO ADOPT THIS. AND THEY'VE ASKED ALL THE BOARDS TO DO THAT AS WELL. SO THE MEETING MINUTES FOR NEXT MONTH ARE GOING TO LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'LL BE VERY SIMPLIFIED AND BASICALLY IT'LL JUST BE REPORTING ON THE THINGS WE TOOK ACTION ON. SO JUST A HEADS UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TASHA.I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON PAGE FOUR OF OUR PACKET UNDER OUR FIRST WORK SESSION WOULD BE THE FOURTH ARROW. DOWN, TASHA ASKED HOW THE LIBRARY GARDEN IS DOING, THAT BULLET POINT HAS SOME HAS SOME SPELLING THAT WE MAY NEED TO JUST CORRECT. OH, YES.
ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. I MOVE TO. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH CORRECTIONS. A SECOND. EVERYONE PLACE YOUR VOTES, PLEASE. THE MOTION PASSES 6 TO 0. ONE MEMBER ABSENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ONTO OUR, REGULAR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER ONE, NOMINATE AND VOTE ON BOARD CHAIR, NOMINATING. VOTING ON BOARD CHAIR AND BOARD VICE CHAIR FOR OUR BOARD. YEAH. SO THIS IS FOR THE NEW BOARD YEAR, TECHNICALLY, JULY, THE JULY MEETING, WHICH IS TODAY, STARTS OUR NEW, BOARD YEAR SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING AS IS IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS IT, IF YOU'RE SICK OF IT, WHATEVER. WE JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO NOMINATE THEMSELVES OR SOMEONE ELSE. AND THEN WE CAN VOTE. I NOMINATE JUSTIN STAUNCH STROUT, STROUT, STROUT AS THE, BOARD CHAIR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND OKAY. SENIOR WE'LL PUT UP YOUR VOTING ON YOUR SCREEN. IF YOU COULD PLEASE VOTE. ON. THE NOMINATION PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. SENIOR, ITEM TWO, ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA. NOMINATE AND VOTE ON BOARD. VICE CHAIR, CURRENTLY, OUR BOARD VICE CHAIR, IS MISS TASHA, SO, AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TASHA FOR, BOARD VICE CHAIR. SECOND.
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NOMINATION PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. SENIOR INTO OUR WORK SESSION, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FROM, LAST MONTH, A REVIEW, FIN. FREE, INFORMATION, MISS OPHELIA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. THANK YOU.JUSTIN SO WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE THE EASIEST WAY TO DO HERE. THERE'S A TON OF ARTICLES ON PUBLIC LIBRARIES GOING FINE FREE. AND THEY'RE ALL FROM. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TWO THAT I INCLUDED AREN'T PARTICULARLY RECENT. ONE IS FROM 2017 AND ONE IS FROM 2018. THAT WAS KIND OF THE BIG YEARS WHEN THIS MOVEMENT GOT STARTED, 2016 TO 2018, WHICH IS WHEN WERE MOST OF THE ARTICLES ARE FROM. SO I CHOSE JUST A COUPLE OF THEM THAT I THOUGHT KIND OF WERE, SUMMED EVERYTHING UP REALLY WELL AS OPPOSED TO GIVING YOU A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO LOOK AT. AND THEN THE LAST PIECE OF, ARTICLE THAT I INCLUDED IS A LITTLE MORE RECENT FROM SEPTEMBER OF 2022 THAT HAS ACTUAL THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS DATA. SO THIS HAS ACTUAL DATA ON HOW MANY LIBRARIES HAVE GONE FINE, FREE HOW THAT'S BEEN A VERY BIG TREND RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS, DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT I THOUGHT YOU ALL MIGHT, FIND INTERESTING AND USEFUL WHEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, WHEN I TRIED TO FIND MORE RECENT ARTICLES ABOUT GOING FINE, FREE, IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY'S OVER IT. THEY'VE MOVED ON. THERE'LL BE ARTICLES ON LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, ARLINGTON HAS GONE FINE, FREE OR PLANO HAS GONE FINE FREE. BUT THERE'S NOT LIKE LIKE THE ARTICLES THAT TALK ABOUT WHY AND ALL OF THAT. SO MORE LIKE ANNOUNCEMENTS OR PRESS ANNOUNCEMENTS. SO ANYWAY, SO THAT'S WHY I INCLUDED THOSE THAT I DID. BUT REALLY HONESTLY, THE TWO THAT I INCLUDED THAT ARE THE FIRST TWO IS PRETTY MUCH THE GIST OF PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM. SO WHAT I DID IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I INCLUDED HERE, STARTING ON PAGE, 19 OF YOUR PACKET, THE SLIDE, THE PAGE 20 ON WHY. FINE THAT INFORMATION IS JUST KIND OF, SUMMARIZING WHAT THOSE ARTICLES SAY. SO WE FIND BECAUSE IT SUPPOSEDLY HELPS US GET THOSE ITEMS BACK ON TIME. RIGHT. IT'S KIND OF A DETERRENT FOR PEOPLE TO KEEP THINGS LONGER, BUT WE FOUND THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS PATRONS THINK THAT THEY'RE HELPING THE LIBRARY BY PAYING FINES BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY.
BUT THAT MONEY DOES NOT COME TO US. AND IN THAT MORE RECENT ARTICLE THAT I INCLUDED, IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THE MAJORITY OF LIBRARIES DON'T SEE THAT FINE, THAT FINE MONEY GOES TO THE CITIES OR TO THE, COUNTIES OR WHATEVER TYPE OF LIBRARY IT IS, NOT TO THE LIBRARY ITSELF, SO BASICALLY, THE REALITY OF IT THAT A LOT OF THE ARTICLES TALK ABOUT IS THAT IT UNFAIRLY PUNISHES FAMILIES AND THOSE THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED, TYPICALLY BECAUSE FAMILIES HAVE SEVERAL CARDS. RIGHT? LIKE IF ALL THE KIDS HAVE CARDS AND THEN ALL THE KIDS, EVERY SINGLE CARD HAS A HAS AN OVERDUE ITEM OR WHATEVER, AND ALSO PEOPLE THAT JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IT, AND THEN INSTEAD OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME BACK TO THE LIBRARY, IT ACTUALLY DISCOURAGES THEM TO COME BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY HAVE THIS STIGMA. THEY'RE THEY'RE ASHAMED OR THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY IT OR THEY DON'T WANT TO. THEY'RE EMBARRASSED. WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I MADE A JOKE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW LIBRARIANS AND PRIESTS ARE KIND OF ALIKE, AND THAT WE CONFESSIONS ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, OH MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, AND I GET IT ALL THE TIME. THEY TELL ME, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T I CAN'T COME BACK TO THE LIBRARY. I HAVE A FINE. I'M LIKE, HONESTLY, WE DON'T CARE. COME BACK TO THE LIBRARY, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, JUST ANECDOTALLY I HEAR ALL THE TIME, AND THEN BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HAVE THAT FINE, THEY DON'T USE THE LIBRARY, WHICH IS REALLY A COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT WE WANT. YOU KNOW, WE WANT THEM TO COME IN AND USE THE LIBRARY. SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER 21. THERE WHAT FINES COST THE LIBRARY. SO CARMEN IS BEEN HERE TEN YEARS. SHE'S VERY EXPERIENCED AND ADEPT AT, TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR FINES, IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GO THAT WAY. IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT NICE, JUST LAST WEEK, I WENT UP TO THE FRONT TO GRAB A KEY OUT OF ONE OF THE DRAWERS AND, OUR, OUR CIRCULATION SUPERVISOR, CHERYL WAS TALKING TO A PATRON ABOUT HER FINES. YOU KNOW, VERY. IT WAS ALL VERY NICE, VERY CALM AND THE WOMAN WAS LIKE, WHAT WAS THIS? AND CLEARLY SHE HADN'T BEEN IN FOR A LONG TIME. AND SO, YOU KNOW, CHERYL'S SHOWING HER ON THE SCREEN, THE DATES AND WHAT. AND THE LADY WAS LIKE. BUT I TURNED THOSE IN AND SHE SAID, YES, YOU TURN THEM IN, YOU KNOW. BUT THEY WERE LATE. I WALKED AWAY, CAME BACK 15 MINUTES LATER. THEY WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THAT STRESS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON STAFF THAT TIME THAT WE'RE TAKING UP. SO WHILE SHE'S TALKING TO THIS ONE WOMAN, THERE'S A LINE OF PEOPLE WAITIN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SHE'S DEALING WITH THIS ONE PERSON, LOST ITEMS
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BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THEIR ITEMS ARE LATE. THEY JUST DON'T BRING THEM BACK. AND WHICH IS JUST YOU THINK THAT IT'S COMPLETELY COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY, AND THEN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST KIND OF CREATING A COMBATIVE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON HAVING REALLY GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE MINUTE YOU'RE LATE WITH SOMETHING, IT'S LIKE, NOPE, YOU GOT TO PAY FOR THAT, YOU KNOW? SO WHY ARE WE IT'S ALMOST LIKE A NEGATIVE. WHY ARE WE STARTING OUT IN THIS RELATIONSHIP IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY. SO WE WANTED TO BE MORE POSITIVE, SO IT LESSENS LIBRARY USE. AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, A LOST IN MATERIALS. MOVING ON. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, FINE. FREE ALL AROUND US. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING CITIES OR CITIES IN THE METROPLEX THAT HAVE ALL GONE FINE FREE, THE ONLY ONES CLOSE TO US THAT HAVE NOT GONE FINE FREE ARE ALLEN STILL CHARGES FINE FINES. ROCKWALL STILL CHARGES FINES.ROCKWALL, A COUNTY LIBRARY. SO THEY'RE SET UP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I KNOW OF IN THE METROPLEX, THERE'S TWO OTHER ONES. I'M SORRY. I THINK GREENVILLE IS ONE. TWO. THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE BY. AND AZLE NOW, AZLE IS ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FORT WORTH. BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR THAT I KNOW OF BESIDES US THAT ARE STILL CHARGING FINES. EVERYBODY ELSE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IS FINE. FREE. SO THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED.
WE ARE HEARING AGAIN AT THE DESK WHEN SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SAYS, I HAVE A I HAVE A FINE, BUT I GO TO PLANO AND THEY DON'T CHARGE FINES. WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SURPRISED OR I GO TO GARLAND OR WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS SURPRISED THAT WE DO THAT. AND THEN KIND OF THE DEFINING FINE FREE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT, HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. OBVIOUSLY, IF AN ITEM IS LOST, IF AN ITEM IS DAMAGED, IF THERE'S A BARCODE TAKEN OFF A SPINE LABEL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO REPLACE THAT. ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT CHARGING PEOPLE FOR KEEPING THINGS A FEW DAYS LONGER, OR WE'RE JUST NOT. WE'RE ELIMINATING THAT PART OF IT. THEY'RE PRETTY, INEXPENSIVE FINES ANYWAY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BRINGING IN A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, WHICH WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE, I REFERENCED THE NETFLIX MODEL ON HERE, AND I REALIZED WHEN I WAS LOOKING THIS OVER TODAY THAT THAT WAS A BIT UNCLEAR IN THE SENSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR WHEN THINGS COME IN PAST DUE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, EXCUSE ME WHEN IF YOU CHECK OUT SOMETHING AND IT GOES DUE OVERDUE BY A DAY, YOU'LL GET A NOTIFICATION ON DAY ONE, TWO AND THREE. JUST A COURTESY. LIKE, HEY, DON'T FORGET THIS IS DUE KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW? AND THEN AT 21 DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LONG OVERDUE STATUS, WHICH IS BASICALLY WARNING YOU IT'S ABOUT TO GO INTO LOST. AND ONCE IT GOES INTO LOST STATUS, THEN YOU ARE TECHNICALLY CHARGED FOR THE ITEM. SO THEN AT A MONTH OVERDUE IT IS THEN YOU ARE CHARGED FOR THE ITEM. SO UP UNTIL THAT 30 DAYS, YOU CAN STILL USE YOUR CARD AT THE 21 DAY MARK. THE FREEZES YOU ON SELF CHECKS, SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE DESK SO THAT THE LADIES AT THE DESK CAN EXPLAIN WHY AND SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT THIS ITEM MISSING. YOU WANT TO GET THIS IN BEFORE NEXT WEEK, SO YOU'RE NOT CHARGED FOR IT. AND THEN AT THE MONTH THOUGH, IT'S COMPLETELY FROZEN. YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING. SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME THING. SO IF THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT SHOWS LOST ON THEIR ACCOUNTS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THEIR CARD FOR ANYTHING. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK BEFORE THEY COULD USE IT. AND WHEN YOU SAY ANYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, EVEN THE ELECTRONIC RESOURCES KNOW TO CHECK OUT ITEMS, THE STATUS OF FINES DON'T AFFECT YOUR COMPUTER USE. YEAH, NO. OR APP USE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST FOR, PHYSICAL MATERIALS. SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. OKAY NOW LET'S GET TO THE WHAT? EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW. RIGHT. SO I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WOULD FIND THIS FUNNY. I CALLED, DEBBIE FRISBEE. SHE'S ONE OF THE LADIES IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND SAID, HEY, I'M TALKING TO MY BOARD ABOUT THIS. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY OF THE WHOLE POT OURS BRINGS YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FEE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. AND SHE'S KIND OF LISTENING TO ME AND LISTENING TO ME, AND SHE GOES, YOU KNOW, I SHE GOES, I CAN'T EVEN GIVE YOU. IT'S SHE SAID, IT'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT. SHE GOES, I CAN'T EVEN GIVE YOU A NUMBER. WE JUST USE A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE Y'ALL'S CONTRIBUTION IS SO SMALL, THEY TAKE IN AN AVERAGE OF $4 MILLION IN FEES. THE CITY DOES, AND OURS IS I. AND I SAID, WELL, I CAN ADD IT UP IF YOU YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THAT DATA. IF YOU CAN TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU TAKE IN OVERALL. AND SHE SAID THEY TAKE IN AN AVERAGE OF $4 MILLION A YEAR IN FEES. SO OUR CONTRIBUTION. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? I KNOW. SO WHAT I DID, YOU CAN SEE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHAT OUR OVERALL TOTALS AND THIS IS THIS IS FOR EVERYTHING, NOT JUST OVERDUE FINES. SO YOU SEE WE CHARGE FOR PRINTING. WE CHARGE FOR REPLACING YOUR CARD OR FOR PROCESSING FEES, DAMAGED AND LOST ITEMS FOR MEETING ROOM RENTALS. OVERDUE. SO OVERDUE IS JUST A ONE PART OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT FEES THAT WE COLLECT. SO I DID JUST THE OVERALL TOTALS
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AND IT IT AVERAGED OUT RIGHT TO ABOUT I THINK AROUND $35,000. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER I USED TO CALCULATE THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTED BY THE LIBRARY COMPARED TO THAT 4 MILLION. SO WITH ALL THE FEES OUR CONTRIBUTION IS LESS THAN 1. IT'S 0.875. IF YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE OF JUST THE OVERDUE FINES, IT'S LESS THAN HALF A PERCENT. IT'S 0.4265% OF TOTAL CITY FEES. SO WHEN I TALKED TO DEBBIE AND I SAID, SO IF I SAID, DO YOU THINK IF I PITCH THIS AND SAID, YOU KNOW, SHE GOES, SHE SAID, IT'S NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET, THEY WOULD NOT MISS IT. I WAS LIKE, OKAY, GOOD TO KNOW. SO, SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW HOW I CAME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS. SO IF THAT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE AND EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE OTHER FEES, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM, INSPECTIONS FROM UTILITY BILLING. NO, NO, NO. UTILITY BILLING IS SEPARATE. I TAKE THAT BACK. UTILITY BILLING IS SEPARATE, ANYTHING THAT PARKS FEES, IF YOU'RE RENTING A PAVILION, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY TAKE IN $4 MILLION IN FEES EVERY YEAR. AND THIS IS HOW MUCH OF US OF IT IS OURS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULD BE TAKING ALL OF IT AWAY. WE WOULD BE TAKING LESS THAN HALF A PERCENT AWAY IF WE DECIDED TO GO THIS ROUTE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE NUMBERS OR THEY GET KIND OF WONKY THERE IN 2020, 2020 BECAUSE THOSE ARE COVID YEARS. SO THINGS WERE A LITTLE KIND OF CRAZY, BECAUSE YOU'LL SEE, WELL, LIKE 2022, I DON'T KNOW WHY MEETING ROOM RENTALS WERE ONLY 165. I'M LIKE, DID WE JUST WAVE THAT? AND I THINK WHAT IT WAS, IT WAS COMING OUT OF COVID. NOBODY WANTED TO MEET LIKE NO ONE, YOU KNOW, NO ONE WANTED TO BE IN A ROOM TOGETHER. EVERYBODY WAS STILL BEING KIND OF REALLY CAUTIOUS. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH THAT JUMPED ONCE YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF ALL BECAME MORE BACK TO NORMAL. SO. SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT A THEORETICAL. AND YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS. IF THE LIBRARY STAFF WERE TO VOTE TODA, WHAT WOULD THEIR VOTE BE? OH, GOOD QUESTION, SO THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE I MENTIONED TO YOU GUYS THAT I HAVEN'T, PURSUED JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FELT ABOUT IT, AND I WASN'T GOING TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, SO HONESTLY, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I'M TALKING TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THIS YET, SO I'M BRINGING THIS UP WITH THEM AT OUR NEXT STAFF MEETING, BUT I THINK THEY WOULD VOTE TO ELIMINATE THEM. OKAY. YEAH. JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ONE LESS INTERACTION THAT'S NEGATIVE, ONE LESS INTERACTION. THAT'S, COMBATIVE. COULD BE OR POTENTIALLY COMBATIVE, THEY'RE NOT ALL COMBATIVE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY NICE AND PAY THEIR FINES AND IT'S FINE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT. AND IT JUST TAKES THAT ONE PERSON AND YOU KNOW, I DID TALK TO THE CIRCULATION SUPERVISOR ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I ASKED HER, I SAID, ARE WE JUST REPLACING FINES WITH LOSS AND DAMAGE? LIKE, ISN'T IT THE SAME THING? WHAT ARE WE? AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL, SHE SAID, THE THING IS WITH LOSS AND DAMAGE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T ARGUE WITH YOU LIKE YOU LOST. YOU LOST THIS ITEM. IT IS NOT HERE, SHE SAID.WITH FINES, THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE. THERE'S ALWAYS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENS.
SOMEBODY WAS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST, SHE SAID. IT'S JUST SEEMS IT JUST YOU MAY THEY MAKES THEM FEEL BAD, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY HAVE TO IF SOMETHING WAS LEGITIMATELY WRONG OR SOMETHING DID HAPPEN OR, YOU KNOW, AND YOU NEVER KNOW. SO OR THAT SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I REALLY NEED THIS. CAN I, YOU KNOW, AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN. BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE A LIMIT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, I MEAN, OVERDUE ITEMS. I MEAN, AT THE MOST WE'RE LOOKING AT 20, 20, $20,000. I MEAN, LESS THAN HALF A TOTAL PERCENTAGE. SO, YOU KNOW, -20,000. BUT WE GAIN WHAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY LESS, YOU KNOW, CONFRONTATION, LESS CONFRONTATION. I THINK THAT'S THE BIG THING. YOU KNOW HOW THEY SAY YOU CAN'T. IT'S THAT IMPRESSION, THAT FIRST IMPRESSION YOU MAKE. AND OUR GOAL I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME THAT WE'RE THE WELCOME CENTER OF WYLIE. SO OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT LEAVES THE LIBRARY LEAVES WITH A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST OR A POSITIVE VIEW, NOT JUST OF THE LIBRARY, BUT OF THE CITY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE MAY NEVER, MAY, MAY NEVER GO TO CITY HALL BECAUSE THEY'VE SET EVERYTHING UP ONLINE. THEY MAY NOT USE THE REC BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GYM MEMBERSHIP THROUGH THEIR WORK OR WHAT. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WHEN THEY DO PARKS, RESERVATIONS AND THINGS THEY DON'T NECESSARILY SEE ANYONE FACE TO FACE. HOPEFULLY THEY NEVER RUN INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT OR HAVING TO CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND SO REALLY, WE'RE THE INTERACTION THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY. AND WHEN WE'RE SITTING THERE GOING, YOU OWE US $0.15. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS IT JUST SEEMS PETTY AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY
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BROUGHT THE ITEM BACK, I MEAN, IT WAS A LITTLE LATE, BUT THEY BROUGHT HIM BACK, YOU KNOW, SO THEY CAN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING AS LONG AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEIR CARD HAS TO BE IN GOOD STANDING IN ORDER TO KEEP USING IT. SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A MORE OF A MOTIVATOR THAN THE MONEY. AND I'M ONE OF THOSE TERRIBLE LIBRARY PATRONS. I ALWAYS HAD THINGS LATE. I'M ALWAYS I WAS ALWAYS PAYING FINES. I WAS I JUST WOULD LOSE TRACK OF THE DATES YOU KNOW, SO I, YOU KNOW, AND I BUT I WAS NEVER ANNOYED AT THE LIBRARY ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.BUT YOU KNOW, I RECOGNIZED IT. I HAD A PROBLEM. I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO GO TO A SUPPORT GROUP.
YEAH THAT IS STEP ONE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AND MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS WITH THE HOW HOW WOULD THIS WORK? SO I MAY SAVE IT, BUT MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE ABOUT INTERLIBRARY LOANS AND COOPERATION WITH OTHER LIBRARIES WHO EITHER WANT THEIR BOOKS BACK OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, YOU KNOW, I GET A BOOK ON LOAN, BUT I TURN IT IN A MONTH, TWO MONTHS LATE. YEAH. INTERLIBRARY LOAN IS KIND OF A DIFFERENT, ANIMAL. SO INTERLIBRARY LOAN, IF YOU DON'T PICK UP THE ITEM, YOU GET CHARGED. THAT WOULDN'T GO AWAY. THAT'S STILL THE SAME THING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR ITEM. THE OTHER LIBRARY SETS TH, FEES OR FINES OR WHATEVER. TYPICALLY, WHAT'LL HAPPEN WITH IL, THOUGH, IS IF YOU DON'T BRING IT BACK ON TIME, THEY JUST CHARGE YOU FOR IT. SO WE'LL GET A BILL FOR THAT ITEM. WE'LL GET AN INVOICE FOR THAT ITEM. AND THEN WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE PATRONS SAYING THEY'RE BILLING US FOR THIS. WHERE WHERE IS THIS ITEM. SO AND SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO PAY IT. IT'S VERY RARE THAT IT HAPPENS, BUT SOMETIMES WE DO END UP HAVING TO PAY IT BECAUSE EITHER THE PATRON HAS DISAPPEARED OR THEY'VE MOVED OR, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS. SO, BUT IT'S VERY RARE. I THINK MAYBE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE'VE PAID FOR TWO IL PEOPLE THAT DO IL ARE HARDCORE LIBRARY USERS. THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TO SCAM THE SYSTEM OR ANYTHING. SO YEAH, IT'S VERY, VERY RARE. BUT ALL OF THAT WOULD STAY THE SAME. IT WOULDN'T AFFECT THIS AT ALL. AND MOVING ON TO HOW WOULD THIS WORK? THANK YOU, JUSTIN. SO BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT IT TONIGHT. SO WE'RE STARTING IT TOMORROW. IT'S NOT THAT EASY. I WISH, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THIS, IF I, I WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD ASK ME TO DO A PRESENTATION KIND OF LIKE THIS ONE. MAYBE WITH MORE DATA, MORE NUMBERS IN IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY ORDINANCE, IF WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD PROBABLY ASK YOU GUYS TO ATTEND. JUST SO I COULD SAY, BOARD IS HERE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEHIND IT, THE OTHER LIBRARIES THAT HAVE DONE THIS RECENTLY, I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THEM AND THEY SAID THEY BEGAN BY DOING A PERIOD OF AMNESTY, KIND OF LIKE A HEY, GUYS, WE'RE GOING FINE FREE. SO COME ON OVER AND WE'LL WAIVE WHAT YOU GOT AND BRING THE STUFF BACK AND ALL IS FORGIVEN KIND OF THING. I ALSO ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, SAY THEY WENT FINE, FREE JANUARY 1ST AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES IN JANUARY 2ND AND THEY HAVE FINES FROM THREE YEARS AGO. WHAT DO YOU DO? AND THEY ALL SAID THEY JUST WAIVED IT. THEY JUST WAIVE IT LIKE IT'S THAT STARTING THAT JANUARY 1ST WE'RE DONE. THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T DO BOTH. THE LIBRARIES I TALKED TO SAID THEY DIDN'T JUST REMOVE EVERYTHING OFF THE RECORDS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BACK END, PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN JUST GO IN AND SAY, ERASE ALL THESE FINES. IT'S JUST THERE, JUST ARE UNFORTUNATELY, OUR LIBRARY, SYSTEMS JUST AREN'T THAT SOPHISTICATED. SO AS PEOPLE COME IN, THEY WOULD JUST WAIVE THE FINES AS THEY COME IN. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK. LET'S WAIVE THESE FINES, YOU KNOW, WELCOME BACK. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING, AND THEN AGAIN, YEAH. SO WE WOULD JUST SET A DATE WHETHER THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER 1ST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, YOU KNOW, LOVE YOUR LIBRARY MONTH, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST DECIDE WHEN THAT WOULD BE. AND WE WOULD GO FROM THERE. AND AGAIN, I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO MY BOSS, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, SHE KNOWS I'M TALKING TO Y'ALL, THOUGH, SO SHE KNOWS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT ANYBODY WHO HAS FINES AS OF RIGHT NOW, ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, THEN THOSE WILL BE ERASED. CORRECT.
GOT IT. ONLY LATE FINES. NONE. NOT DAMAGED. NOT LOST. NOT ONLY OVERDUE FINES. YEAH, IT WOULD BE A VERY PLEASANT SURPRISE. YEAH. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD DO A LOT OF MARKETING GETTING THE WORD OUT, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO THOSE THAT HADN'T COME BACK OR HADN'T BROUGHT THINGS BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE FINE. COME ON, BRING IT BACK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FINE. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE ON THIS TOPIC SO FAR. DO YOU GUYS, DO YOU SEE SOMETHING MISSING? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT I MISSED, WHAT OTHER INFORMATION WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? SOMETHING. ANY OTHER ISSUES BESIDES ILL, THAT MIGHT COME UP? IS THERE ANYTHING? SO NOW YOU GUYS GET TO TELL ME WHAT
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YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I MEAN, YOU'VE GIVEN THE BREAKDOWN, AND I THINK THE .426 5% KIND OF YELLS AND SPEAKS VOLUMES AND, WITH THE ARTICLES, IT DOES HELP THAT. AND SEEING THE OTHER SURROUNDING LIBRARIES THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN THAT ON, I THINK WILL BE POSITIVE TO MOVE IT FORWARD, TO BE CHANGED. OKAY GOOD. DOES THAT GO FOR THE STEM KITS KITS TOO? YEAH. OKAY. COOL. THE RETURNED BACK LATE. THE OVERDUE WOULD BE WAIVED. NOW IF YOU DON'T BRING IT BACK AT ALL, YOU GET CHARGED FOR THE WHOLE THING. THOSE ARE THOSE GET PRICEY, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE RASPBERRY PI ONES. THOSE GET EXPENSIVE. WELL, JUST IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF THE WAY THAT THE, THAT THE WIND IS BLOWING. I MEAN, WITH, YOU KNOW, WILEY BEING ONE OF THE FEW CITIES AROUND THAT STILL CHARGES FINES AND $20,000, THAT JUICE ISN'T REALLY WORTH THE SQUEEZE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO CUSTOMER SERVICE. GETTING PEOPLE BACK INTO THE LIBRARY, OR MAYBE GETTING SOME OF OUR LOST BOOKS BACK. RIGHT? I LIKE THAT THE JUICE ISN'T WORTH THE SQUEEZE. I'M TRYING TO ANTICIPATE WHAT QUESTIONS THE CITY WOULD HAVE. I DON'T. YEAH I'M TRYING TO TRY TO THINK OF WHAT MIGHT THEY BRING UP, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE ROADBLOCKS TO GOING FINE? TREE BECAUSE $20,000, WE'RE GOING TO ARGUE, HEY, WE NEED THIS MONEY THIS .426 5. YEAH. IT'S SEE IT. YOU THINK YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN I THINK LIKE 20 GRAND TO ME WOULD BE A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE OVERALL BUDGET, IT'S JUST NOT THAT MUCH, YOU KNOW, AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOMEBODY IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT SAID THEY WOULDN'T EVEN MISS IT. SO, I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY COULD VERY WELL TELL ME. YES, THEY WOULD. SO I DON'T KNOW, THEY MAY NOT BE ON BOARD WITH IT, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THE PROS WOULD DEFINITELY OUTWEIGH THE CONS IN TERMS OF JUST INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE IN THE LIBRARY, NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT IT. I THINK I SAW LIKE, THE, AVERAGE FINE FOR THIS ONE. LIBRARY WAS LIKE $11 TOTAL. AND HOW MANY OF OUR FINES ARE A COUPLE CENTS OR LESS THAN $5? YEAH. YOU KNOW, PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM GETTING BOOKS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WE ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH, LIKE, JUVENILE CARDS. SO THE KIDS THAT GET DROPPED OFF, THE TEENS THAT GET DROPPED OFF, AND EVERY THREE YEARS YOUR CARD EXPIRES AND THOSE FINES HAVE TO BE PAID BEFORE THEY CAN KEEP USING THEIR CARDS. WELL, MOM AND DAD, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DON'T WANT TO COME INTO THE LIBRARY. AND IT'S LIKE THOSE KIDS ARE JUST STUCK. THEY CAN'T USE. IT'S KIND OF SAD, YOU KNOW? THEY CAN'T. SO THEY END UP JUST, YOU KNOW, I THE OTHER DAY WE FOUND A BOOK HIDDEN BETWEEN, LIKE, THE STACKS WITH A BOOKMARK IN IT. SOMEBODY WAS GOING BACK TO IT EVERY DAY AND READING IT. AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE EITHER THEY DIDN'T HAVE FINES OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CAR, OR THEY HAD FINES. THEY COULDN'T USE THEIR CARD, OR MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CARD, BUT IT WAS A KID'S BOOK. AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THEY GET CREATIVE ABOUT HOW TO HOW TO BE ABLE TO STILL READ WHAT THEY WANT TO READ WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE IT HOME. SO YEAH. SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A CONTRARY OPINION? JUST SO I KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION OR A CONTRARY OPINION, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE INFORMATION. I THINK IT MAKES IT VERY CLEAR WE'RE BEHIND THE TIMES. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE US ENOUGH SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SUPPORT AN EDUCATED DECISION, WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO BE AS A LIBRARY. THANK YOU.SO THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD DEAL. WELL, THEN I WILL, EXCUSE ME. I WILL TALK TO, LETTY. THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND, LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT SHE SAYS, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. THAT WAS SO EXCITING, QUITE. JUST JUST QUESTION MAYBE FOR JUSTIN, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF WE ACTUALLY TOOK A VOTE ON THIS, SO THAT YOU COULD SAY THE LIBRARY VOTE BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT YOU IN IN DOING THIS? YES. LET ME. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO, THOUGH, IN THAT CASE, LET ME, TALK TO LETTY, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE A PRESENTATION. SO LET ME CREATE THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION. WE'RE GOING TO SEND TO COUNCIL, AND THEN I CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU ALL AND AS IN THE REGULAR AGENDA, SO YOU CAN DO A VOTE. OKAY. YES. THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION. THANK YOU ROBERTA. AND I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS COMING TO MIND, IS THAT IT'S THE WHOLE PUNITIVE THING, RIGHT? THAT THERE THERE NEEDS TO BE CONSEQUENCES. AND BUT THERE STILL ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WE'RE NOT HITTING THEM WITH IT AS SOON AS THEY WALK IN THE DOOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, CREATING THAT KIND OF COMBATIVE AND NEGATIVE ATMOSPHERE. IT'S YOU ALWAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT DO THEY SAY? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET RID OF BAD PRESS, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE SO UPSET
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WITH YOU OVER A 15 CENT FINE OR WHATEVER THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES. THE LIBRARY, THE CITY, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, TO ME, THAT'S THAT'S WORTH GETTING RID OF THE FINES RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE THAT MORE POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, MORE SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT, I IMAGINE IT'LL MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S DAY WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEIR FINES ARE GONE. YAY! I HOPE SO. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK, MOVING ON ABOUT OUR, REVIEWING OUR MONTHLY REPORT. I KNOW THAT'S HUGE, SO OUR MONTHLY REPORT, WE'RE, HERE THROUGH JULY 17TH, SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE SUMMER, THIS LAST WEEK WAS OUR LAST WEEK OF STORY TIME. THIS WEEK IS, THE HARRY POTTER PARTIES ON FRIDAY. SO WE'RE ALL BUSILY PREPARING FOR THAT, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE PROGRAM THE WEEK AFTER THE MARIACHI HEART. AND THEN WE ARE DONE WITH SUMMER. SO, THIS IS KIND OF THE MAIN, THE MAIN NUMBERS FOR SUMMER. SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS, LIKE STORY TIME. THE REASON THE KID EVENT NUMBER WENT DOWN IS BECAUSE THE MAY THROUGH JUNE 19TH NUMBER INCLUDED THE KICKOFF, WHICH IS ABOUT 2200 PEOPLE. A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, BUT OTHERWISE EVERYTHING'S GOING REALLY STRONG. ALL OUR CIRCULATIONS, VISITORS COMING IN, EVERYTHING'S GOING REALLY WELL, DOWN TO DATABASES. YOU CAN SEE THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF GOING PRETTY STEADY AS WELL. I DID, HAVE A PROBLEM IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 28, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE UDEMY STATS FOR JUNE, WAS BLANK AND I JUST HAD A PROBLEM ACCESSING THEM WHEN I WAS PULLING ALL THE NUMBERS, BUT I HAVE GOTTEN THEM SINCE THEN, SO THEY'LL BE FILLED IN NEXT MONTH. BUT IT WAS 64 ACTIVE USERS, 136 COURSES ENROLLED, AND 11,775.8 VIDEO MINUTES FOR JUNE. SO I APOLOGIZE THAT THAT NUMBER, THOSE NUMBERS DIDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THEY'LL BE IN THERE FOR NEXT MONTH. YEAH. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR DIGITAL? OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL, MOVING ON TO LIBBY.LIBBY IS STILL GOING STRONG. LIBBY IS ALWAYS VERY POPULAR IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO DO IT ON YOUR DEVICE OR PHONE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO CARRY A BOOK WITH YOU. ALTHOUGH I JUST GOT BACK FROM VACATION, I HAD THREE BOOKS WITH ME, SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. I MIGHT BE THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. I MIGHT BE THE EXCEPTION, HOOPLA ON THE NEXT PAGE. AGAIN STILL GOING, GOING STRONG ON THAT, HOOPLA IS THE REASON WE REQUESTED A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE DIGITAL BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THAT IS GETTING SO POPULAR THAT WE ARE, HAVING PROBLEMS KEEPING UP WITH IT. SO HOPEFULLY ONCE THAT GETS APPROVED, IT'LL BE A LITTLE EASIER TO KEEP THAT GOING. AND THEN CANOPY IS STILL DOING REALLY WELL. WE'RE REALLY, HAPPY ABOUT OUR NUMBERS THERE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DIGITAL USAGE? OKAY. AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT YOU'LL SEE ALL THE MEETING AND TRAINING HIGHLIGHTS AND JUST SOME MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION ON THE NEXT PAGE, AS FAR AS, CLOSURES AND THE LIBRARY BOOK SALE, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ANNUAL BOOK SALE. DO YOU HAVE THE, THE MONETARY AMOUNTS THAT WERE TAKEN IN BY THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY BOOK SALE YET, OR IS IT TOO EARLY? NO, I'VE GOT IT. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS $5,778. SO ALMOST SIX, ALMOST SIX GRAND, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE CREDIT CARD FEES TAKEN OUT OF THAT. BUT THAT'S A LITTLE SMALL PORTION OF THAT, SO THEY DID REALLY WELL, JUST FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE, PLANO DID THEIR, FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY BOOK SALE. NOW, THEY USED TO DO, I REMEMBER IN YEARS PAST THEY USED TO RENT OUT THE EVENT CENTER, AND IT WAS A BIG WEEKEND AND IT WAS HUGE. WELL, NOW WHAT THEY DO IS THEY JUST TAKE ONE WEEK AND DO IT IN ONE OF THEIR I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO IT IN ONE OF THEIR BRANCHES OR ALL OF THEM, TO BE HONEST. I THINK IT'S JUST ONE AND THEY JUST DO IT ALL WEEK LONG. IT'S JUST OUT THERE AND IN ONE WEEK THEY MADE 10,000 AND IN 24 HOURS WE MADE ALMOST SIX. SO THAT'S AWESOME. IT'S PRETTY GOOD. IT'S PRETTY GOOD. YEAH WE HAD THAT PRESALE ON FRIDAY IS IT'S ALWAYS ASTOUNDS ME. WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COME. THEY'RE JUST SO GENEROUS AND SO EXCITED. IT'S SO MUCH FUN TO BE THERE BECAUSE THEY GET SO EXCITED ABOUT THE THINGS THEY FIND AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN MISSING IN THEIR COLLECTION OR WHAT. ANYWAY, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY NEAT. SO THAT WAS VERY FUN. HOW HOW WAS IT WITHOUT THE, WHAT DID YOU CALL IT? SCANNERS YES. THAT WORD. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE SCANNERS FRIDAY NIGHT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY DIDN'T COME SATURDAY EITHER, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST A WEIRD OFF YEAR IF PEOPLE JUST REALIZED THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY THAT OTHER. IT WAS VERY STRANGE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE
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BEEN TALKING TO OTHER LIBRARIES ABOUT THAT, AND THEY'VE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE. THEY HAVEN'T HAD SCANNERS THIS YEAR EITHER. SO IT'S JUST VERY STRANGE, I THINK THAT WE HAD A LOT MORE THINGS LEFT OVER BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SCANNERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME YEARS ARE LIKE THAT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS YEAR WE HAD A TON OF KID STUFF. LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE END UP. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE GET DONATED.SO YEAH, BUT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION THAT YEAH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM COME THIS YEAR. THEY OBVIOUSLY THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED IN ON FRIDAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN COME ON SATURDAY. I THINK WE MAYBE SAW MAYBE TWO SCANNERS ON SATURDAY, WHICH WAS NOTHING. I MEAN, LAST YEAR IT FELT LIKE WE WERE JUST INUNDATED WITH THEM, BUT WHEN I ASKED OTHER LIBRARIES ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEY ALL SAID THE SAME THING. SO I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY'VE MOVED ON.
INTERESTING? WHAT IS DONE WITH THE, YOU SAID THE LEFTOVERS, THE BOOKS THAT DIDN'T DIDN'T SELL.
YEAH. SO A LOT OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIDS STUFF, WE CAN FIND HOMES FOR THEM. SO, ROTARY, THE ROTARY CLUB DOES A BIG, BOOK DRIVE FOR KIDS THAT THEY SEND TO. THEY HAVE A DEAL WITH CARNIVAL CRUISES. CARNIVAL GIVES THEM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACE, AND THEY CAN PACK AS MANY BOXES OF BOOKS IN THERE TO DELIVER TO KIDS IN MEXICO. SO THEY IN MERIDA, MEXICO, I BELIEVE. AND SO, WE GIVE WE GIVE A LOT OF IT IF THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, TO ROTARY, THEY HAVE TO BE FOR K THROUGH FIFTH GRADE ON THOSE. WE USE A LOT OF THEM FOR THE LITTLE FREE LIBRARIES IN THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ROTARY THING. AND THEN A LOT OF THE UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE, OLDER NONFICTION, THINGS LIKE THAT, THE MASS MARKET PAPERBACKS, THOSE JUST GET RECYCLED BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS THEM. SO WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO FIND HOMES FOR EVERYTHING BUT A LOT. SOME OF THE STUFF JUST HAS TO GO INTO RECYCLING.
THERE'S JUST NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO. AND A LOT OF IT WE PACK BACK INTO THE BACK TO PUT OUT FOR THE SALE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'LL HAVE BACK STOCK. SO A LOT OF IT ENDS UP IT'S BACKED UP BACK STOCK. DID ANY OF THE, PATRONS HAVE ANY FEEDBACK OR COMMENTS DURING THE SALE? WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, THANK YOU FOR NOT HAVING SCANNERS. A LOT OF OUR DIE HARD FOLKS THAT WERE THERE THE LAST YEAR WERE LIKE, THIS IS GREAT. NO SCANNERS, THANK YOU. SO AT THE PRESALE. SO THEY LIKE THAT A LOT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M STILL OF THE IT'S REALLY, REALLY BUSY THAT FRIDAY NIGHT'S CRAZY THOSE TWO HOURS. IT'S REALLY FUN. THE SATURDAY MORNINGS NUTS ABOUT 1:00 EVERYTHING DIES. IT'S REALLY QUIET AFTER THAT. SO I'M KIND OF THE OF THE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO SHORTEN SATURDAY A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THAT KIND OF MOTIVATES PEOPLE TO COME OUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND GET THERE BEFORE WE CLOSE. YOU KNOW, KIND OF THING. SO, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT NOW WITH THE FRIENDS TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING, BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD HELP US, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY WHAT WE DO, WE CLOSE AT FOUR SO THAT WE HAVE THAT HOUR BEFORE THE LIBRARY CLOSES WITH THE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US GET EVERYTHING BACK INTO THE WORK ROOM. IF WE HAD THOSE FOUR HOURS, AND NOT JUST THAT ONE HOUR, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH MORE HELPFUL TO GET EVERYTHING INTO BACK STOCK, TO GET EVERYTHING ORGANIZED. SO LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE STILL HAVE BOXES AND BOXES OF BOOKS IN FRONT OF SENIORS DESKS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BECAUSE WE IT'S JUST STAFF JUST WORKS ON IT WHEN THEY HAVE TIME. YOU KNOW. SO THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE, I THINK, A BETTER USE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS TIME THAN JUST STANDING AROUND STRAIGHTENING AND WAITING TO SEE IF SOMEBODY COMES TO BUY THIS BOOK, YOU KNOW? PLUS, I THINK THAT IDEA OF IT CLOSES THIS ONE. WE GOT TO GO. MIGHT MOTIVATE MORE PEOPLE TO COME OUT A LITTLE EARLIER. AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND SOME MONEY. SO YEAH, BUT TALK ABOUT SUPPORT THAT WE GOT A LOT OF LOVE THAT WEEKEND. SO AT THE END OF JUNE, OPHELIA MET WITH AUDREY FROM FIVE LOAVES. YES. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT'S ONE OF THE LOCAL PANTRIES. CORRECT. FIVE LOAVES IS A LOCAL FOOD PANTRY HERE, IN SACKS. THEY ALSO, MAKE COFFEE. THEY HAVE A. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A ROASTER, BUT THEY PACKAGE COFFEE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO. AND THEY PARTNER WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT, EMPLOYS SPECIAL NEEDS ADULTS. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A CAFE IN OUR LOBBY SPACE, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY VENDORS TO GO IN THERE. I'VE APPROACHED SO MANY AND THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED. SO I DECIDED TO TALK TO AUDREY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING HER THEIR COFFEE AND THEIR, WORKFORCE, THEIR SPECIAL NEEDS WORKFORCE. DO, COFFEE IN THE LOBBY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, IT WOULDN'T BE, SINCE THEY'RE NOT A THEY'RE A NONPROFIT. SO WE WOULDN'T CHARGE THEM TO USE THE LOBBY. IT WOULD. WHATEVER THEY MAKE WOULD BE PROCEEDS FOR THEM. IT WOULD JUST KIND OF BE AN EXTRA BENEFIT FOR THE PATRONS. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST KIND OF STARTING OUT WITH A LITTLE COFFEE CART AND SEE HOW IT GOES. MAYBE ON STORY TIME MORNINGS, YOU KNOW, AND SEE IF IT TAKES ON AND IF PEOPLE LIKE IT AND IT STARTS, YOU KNOW, GROWING, THEN WE COULD EXPAND THAT, THE AREA THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE KITCHEN IN OUR, THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE THE KITCHEN
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FOR THE CAFE, NEVER GOT FINISHED OUT BECAUSE WE NEVER GOT A VENDOR IN THERE, BUT IF THAT WORKS OUT, THEN WE COULD LOOK AT FINISHING THAT OUT, PUTTING IN A SINK, A FRIDGE, THAT KIND OF STUFF, SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE AND THEY COULD SET THAT UP. SO, BUT BABY STEPS, WE'RE JUST IN THE TALKING PHASE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT IT. YEAH. BECAUSE COFFEE AND BOOKS, Y'ALL. WHAT'S BETTER, RIGHT. IMAGINE A PARENT DROPPING THEIR KID OFF AT STORYTIME OR SOMETHING, GET A LITTLE COFFEE, TAKE A WALK. EXACTLY. OR EVEN LIKE PEOPLE AT THE REC THAT COME TO WORK OUT IN THE MORNING, THEN WANT TO COME ACROSS AND GET IT BECAUSE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT'S SO NICE ABOUT THAT LOBBY, IS WE HAVE THAT GATE THAT SECURES THE REST OF THE LIBRARY. WE COULD OPEN THE LOBBY AT ANY TIME, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE AND HAVE THEM IN THERE MAKING COFFEE. YOU KNOW, THEY COULD OPEN AT FIVE IF THEY WANTED TO. WHEN THE REC DOES. I HOPE NOT, BECAUSE THAT'S EARLY. BUT ANYWAY, I AM NOT A MORNING PERSON. NOT THAT I HAVE TO BE THERE, BUT I'M NOT A MORNING PERSON, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO GO TO THE REC, YOU KNOW, EARLY, AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BENEFIT FOR THEM TOO. AND OF COURSE, STAFF AT CITY HALL, I'M SURE WOULD LOVE IT. AS WELL. IS THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WORKING ON ANYTHING EXCITING? OH MY GOODNESS, WE ARE SO BUSY! WE HAVE A, TEE UP FOR SCHOOL GOLF MINI GOLF TOURNAMENT COMING UP AUGUST 10TH. IT'S A LITTLE FUNDRAISER THEY'RE DOING. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER DONE IT. IT'S MINI GOLF IN THE LIBRARY, WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT'S COMING IN AND THEY SET IT ALL UP. SO THE ALL THE HOLES ARE IN THE STACKS IN DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE LIBRARY, AND IT'S AFTER HOURS. SO YOU GET TO COME IN AFTER HOURS, IT'S A SATURDAY EVENING AND PLAY MINI GOLF AT THE YOU GET 18 HOLES TO PLAY IN THE LIBRARY IN THAT FUN. ANYWAY, SO IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF A FUN LITTLE FAMILY EVENT. SO WE'RE GOING TO START BOMBARDING SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL OF THAT, THIS WEEK ACTUALLY WITH THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER, FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, WE HAVE ANOTHER MURDER MYSTERY NIGHT ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, AND THEN GREAT FRIDAY, THE 13TH. AND, IT'S COINCIDES WITH THE REC IS DOING THEIR PARENTS NIGHT OUT THAT NIGHT. SO YOU CAN DROP YOUR KIDS OFF AT THE REC AND THEN JUST COME RIGHT ACROSS AND DO A MURDER MYSTERY NIGHT. YEAH. SO, THIS YEAR'S MURDER OR THIS MURDER MYSTERY NIGHT IS ABOUT.IT'S ALL AN AMERICAN LITERARY THEME. SO, LIKE SOME OF THE SUSPECTS OR NURSE RATCHED FROM ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST OR DAISY BUCHANAN FROM GREAT GATSBY. AND. YEAH, SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY FUN. YEAH. AND THEN, OF COURSE, SPOOKY NIGHTS ON OCTOBER. SO I MEAN, IT'S JUST LIKE, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM. WE ARE BUSY, BUSY. THESE FRIENDS ARE LIKE, DO NOT LIKE SITTING AROUND. WE GOT TO WE GOT TO DO THINGS I LOVE IT. LET'S DO THE THINGS. ALL RIGHT, SPEAKING OF FRIENDS AT THE LIBRARY TO FOR SCHOOL OUR UPCOMING PROGRAMS. THERE YOU GO. TP FOR SCHOOL.
THAT'S RIGHT. ON PAGE 31. THANK YOU. JUSTIN. YOU'RE WELCOME. I JUST GAVE YOU A LITTLE PREVIEW THERE, SO. YEAH. SO THEY CAN COME. AND, REGISTRATION IS OPEN, THERE'S A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE, AND IT'S AN EVENT ON FACEBOOK WITH THE LINK. AND I THINK IT'S $5 PER PERSON OR UP $20 FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. LIKE, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE SONGS ARE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD, SO IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE. LIKE I SAID, 18 HOLE GOLF HOLES ALL THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY. IT'S JUST SOMETHING, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOREVER, AND, WE FINALLY WERE JUST LIKE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO IT. I'M JUST GONNA DO IT. AND SO IT JUST KIND OF COINCIDED WITH THE BEGINNING OF SCHOOL, AND WE THOUGHT, WELL, HOW FUN TO KIND OF A WAY TO CELEBRATE BACK TO SCHOOL. SO AUGUST, AS YOU CAN SEE, NOT A LOT HAPPENING. AUGUST IS KIND OF OUR CATCH UP MONTH AFTER, MAY IS OUR PLANNING MONTH AND AUGUST IS OUR CATCH UP MONTH SLASH PLANNING FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR. SO A LOT OF OUR STAFF ALSO TAKE VACATIONS IN AUGUST BECAUSE WE DON'T DO VACATIONS IN JUNE AND JULY FOR ABOUT SIX WEEKS, AND NO ONE'S ALLOWED TO TAKE OFF BECAUSE IT'S MADNESS. SO, EVERYBODY GETS A LITTLE TIME OFF, A LITTLE DOWNTIME, AND THEN WE START BACK UP WITH ALL OF OUR REGULAR PROGRAMING ON SEPTEMBER 4TH. OUR OUR ADULTS DON'T MEET, THOUGH. THEY GET THEIR BOOK CLUBS IN, SO THAT'S GOOD. AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO A SAY IN WHAT BOOKED ON FRIDAY IS READING, THAT'S THEIR PLANNING MEETING. SO YOU CAN LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO READ.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE HAD AN INCREDIBLY BUSY SUMMER AND YEAH, WE CAN'T CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR ALL THE ALL THE WORK THAT THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF DO. IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE. SO. YEAH.
TAKE SOME TIME. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. WE LOVE IT. AND OF COURSE, THE BEST DAY OF THE YEAR IS FRIDAY. SO DON'T FORGET TO COME TO THE LIBRARY. RIGHT, RIGHT. DO TO FOR HARRY POTTER. ALL RIGHT.
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