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2024. WILEY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING. LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE'S HERE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IS, WILL BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER BLACK. THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR, GIVING US THIS GREAT WEEK SO FAR. YOU'VE ALLOWED US ALL TO BE HERE, HELP US MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND GET HOME SAFELY AND HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE WEEK. SO YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NEXT UP IS COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. AS THERE'S NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO GIVE A COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE ON
[WS1. Hold a work session to discuss the Planning and Zoning Commissions rules, procedures, and responsibilities.]
TO THE WORK SESSION. DO I NEED TO SAY THE WHOLE ITEM ON THE WORK SESSION? WORK SESSION ONE.HOLD A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RULES, PROCEDURES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. MR. HASKIN. THANK YOU. CHAIR. BUTLER. WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR AROUND THIS TIME WHEN ALL THE NEW APPOINTMENTS HAPPEN, WHEN IT'S A GOOD REMINDER FOR, FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A LITTLE WHILE. AND ALSO, IT'S JUST GOOD INFORMATION FOR FOLKS WHO ARE JUST BEEN APPOINTED. SO, LET'S SEE. HERE WE GO, SO, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, PLANNING AND ZONING IS NOT THE ONLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE CITY OF WYLIE. AND WE HAVE A MUNICIPAL PLANNING AND ZONING AUTHORITY THAT COMES FROM SEVERAL SUPREME COURT RULINGS AND FEDERAL LAW THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR, 120, 130 YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE. SO THERE'S ZONING AUTHORITY, SUBDIVISION AUTHORITY, LAND USE AUTHORITY, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT P AND Z IS IN CHARGE OF. MANDATED BY LOCAL CODE. I ALWAYS MAKE THE SAME JOKE. SECTION TWO 111 007 IS REALLY GOOD MATERIAL. IF YOU SUFFER FROM INSOMNIA, IT'S CREATED BY CITY OF WYLIE BY ORDINANCE IN 1956, AND IS INCLUDED IN THE 1985 CHARTER.
UNIQUE THING ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IT IS THE ONLY GROUP, BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT IS NOT CITY COUNCIL THAT IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THE CHARTER AND HAS ITS OWN SECTION. WE THESE RULES AND, PROCEDURES THAT I'M ABOUT READY TO GO OVER, WERE WRITTEN BY P AND Z, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THEY WERE UPDATED WAS MARCH 2020, AND THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. IN GENERAL, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS MIRROR, WHAT CITY COUNCIL DOES. EVERY 4 OR 5, SIX YEARS WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT COUNCIL IS DOING AND IF THERE'S CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE RULES AND PROCEDURES, WE'LL STAFF WILL PRESENT THEM TO P AND Z. WE CAN LOOK AT, ONE EXAMPLE WOULD BE THAT LIKE WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE 18 YEARS AGO, P AND Z USED TO START AT 7:00 AND THEN IT GOT MOVED TO 630. AND THEN EVENTUALLY EVERYBODY CAME TO THEIR SENSES. AND NOW WE DO IT AT SIX. SO WHAT IS P AND Z RESPONSIBLE FOR? P AND Z IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ZONING CHANGES.
PLATS SITE PLANS OR ORDINANCE AND REGULATION AMENDMENTS AND THE LAND USE PLAN. I'LL GO OVER THESE INDIVIDUALLY HERE IN EACH SLIDE. ZONING CHANGES. ZONING CHANGES IS WHEN SOMEBODY A LANDOWNER COMES IN AND SAYS THAT I WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY, ALLOWED OR ZONED WITHIN THAT PROPERTY. OR MAYBE IT'S AG. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL PIECES OF WILEY THAT ARE AGRICULTURAL, WHICH IS WHAT IS IN WILEY, WE CALL THAT THE BASE ZONING. IF SOMETHING IS BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OR IF IT HAD NEVER BEEN ZONED SINCE THE DAY WILEY WAS INCORPORATED, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL. SO SOMEBODY WILL COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY. MAYBE IT'S NOT ALLOWED RIGHT NOW. THAT IS A ZONING CHANGE, P AND Z RECOMMEND REC DOES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY ON THAT. HOWEVER, ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT P AND Z IS THAT IF YOU IF THIS BOARD COMMISSION.
I'M SORRY, MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THEN AND IT'S A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. IT TAKES A SUPERMAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO TURN THAT TO OVERRULE IT. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO, APPROVE SOMETHING, SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S DOESN'T THAT ALSO APPLY TO IF WE APPROVE IT. NO. IF COUNCIL IF YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND COUNCIL WANTS TO DENY IT, A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WILL CAN DO MAJORITY RULES ON DENIAL. YES, YES. IT'S
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ONLY IF P AND Z MAKES A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. AND THERE'S, COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN APPROVING IT AS A WHOLE, THESE ARE WHAT'S CALLED LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE FULL POWER AND AUTHORITY TO ASK FOR ANYTHING THAT STATE LAW ALLOWS. WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS FOR A ZONING CHANGE, I ALWAYS MAKE THE, THE, STATEMENT THAT ZONING IS WHEN YOU WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT. IF IT COMES TO SPECIFIC THINGS, IF SOMEBODY'S ASKING FOR LIKE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE ASKING TO BREAK THE RULES, YOU KNOW, OR OR BEND THE RULES A LITTLE BIT OR WHATEVER. YOU DEFINITELY WANT T, TALK ABOUT THOSE. AND THAT'S THE TIME TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER, OR THE LANDOWNER. IF IT'S A SIMPLE ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING BY. RIGHT. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY HUGE AUTHORITY THERE EXCEPT TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE ZONING. YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO THEY WANT TO GO FROM AG TO COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL, THEY JUST WANT TO BUILD A STRIP, A SIMPLE AGRICULTURE OR, RETAIL BUILDING. AND THEIR USE IS WHAT'S NORMALLY ALLOWED BY.RIGHT. THERE'S REALLY NO NEGOTIATION THERE. SO TO SPEAK. BUT IF SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GO, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT WE WANT TO BUILD A TEN STORY TALL BUILDING. OKAY, WELL, LET'S TALK, YOU KNOW, SO, IF THERE'S ANY EVER DOUBT OR QUESTION ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, GET WITH STAFF AND WE'LL DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW, BUT WHENEVER YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE THAT IS WIDE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, OR PLATS, PLATS ARE JUST THE, BASICALLY SETTING THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY, ALSO EASEMENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE ACCESS EASEMENTS, FIRE LANES, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS IT COVERS, PNC MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A, A PLAT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THESE ARE WHAT'S CALLED GENERALLY MINISTERIAL. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY ARE TECHNICALLY CORRECT, YOU CANNOT DENY IT, STAFF WILL TELL YOU WHETHER WE BELIEVE IT IS TECHNICALLY CORRECT. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE HAVE NEVER MADE AN ERROR IN ALL THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A LIE. SO IF YOU DO SEE SOMETHING THAT YOU BELIEVE IS AN ERROR, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT. BUT BECAUSE, IT IS GENERALLY MINISTERIAL. IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S IF IT IS CORRECT THAT IT HAS TO BE IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL. THAT'S WHY AGAIN TONIGHT, YOU'LL SEE IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO SEE AN ERROR, THAT'S WHEN WE PULL IT OFF THE CONSENT AND WE DISCUSS IT. SITE PLANS. SITE PLANS ARE THE ACTUAL BUILDING PLANS THEMSELVES. IF PLATS, DEFINE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY, THE SITE PLAN DEFINES WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE, HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS, WHERE THE PARKING SPOTS ARE, HOW MUCH LANDSCAPING IS, WHERE THE LANDSCAPING IS, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING IT IS, PNC HAS FULL APPROVAL OR DENIAL AUTHORITY OVER THESE, THEY DO NOT GO TO COUNCIL GENERALLY, UNLESS A SITE PLAN IS DENIED. A, A APPLICANT CAN APPEAL TO COUNCIL, FOR A RECONSIDERATION, BUT THAT'S VERY, VERY RARE, USUALLY BECAUSE PNC HAS A VERY GOOD REASON FOR DENYING SOMETHING. FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'VE ONLY SEEN IN MY 18 YEARS, I'VE ONLY SEEN COUNCIL DO THAT ONCE, SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THESE ARE GENERALLY MINISTERIAL. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARE TECHNICALLY CORRECT, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED. HOWEVER, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THERE ARE THINGS, ON A SITE PLAN THAT ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AREA IN CERTAIN THINGS, A GREAT EXAMPLE WOULD BE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ON WHEN SOMEBODY HAD A DRIVE THROUGH AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR DRIVE THRU EXIT LANE WENT STRAIGHT INTO THE STREET, BUT PEOPLE COULD ALSO TURN IN IN THAT SAME AREA AND WAS LIKE, WELL, THE HEADLIGHTS ARE GOING TO BE BLINDING PEOPLE AND YOU MIGHT HAVE A HEAD ON COLLISION. OKAY WELL THAT GOES TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUE THAT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SO THAT'S A BIT OF A GRAY AREA. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IF THEY'RE TECHNICALLY CORRECT, THEY SHOULD BE APPROVED. BUT WE CAN STILL DISCUSS THINGS, ORDINANCE AND REGULATION AMENDMENTS. THESE CAN BE INITIATED BY STAFF PNZ COMMISSION. COUNCIL OR AND I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS LAST NIGHT. VOA, THIS IS JUST CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION REGS OR AT TIMES, CHANGES TO THE CITY ORDINANCE, I KNOW IT ONLY SAYS COVERING THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND SUBDIVISION REGS. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT P AND Z COULD DISCUSS, LIKE FOR, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE CITY REGULATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, SIGNS, SIGNS THAT GO ON BUILDINGS OR GO ON PROPERTY. ARE ACTUALLY A CITY ORDINANCE, NOT A IN NOT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE DOWNTOWN. BUT P AND Z STILL LOOKS AT THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SITE PLANS, P AND Z RECOMMEND MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE CHANGES, THESE ARE
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LEGISLATIVE IN NATURE. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ARE OPEN TO FULL DISCUSSION. MY JOB AND KEVIN'S JOB, IN MY OPINION, ON THESE SORT OF THINGS, IS TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT STATE LAW ALLOWS, AND THEN GO FROM THERE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO DEVELOPMENT IN WILEY, IF I FELT IT NECESSARY, WE COULD BRING IN THE EDC TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT MAY BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPERS WOULD LOOK AT AS BEING, YOU KNOW, BLOCKAGES TO THEM WANTING TO COME TO WILEY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE JUST MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH WE I SAY WE JUST GOT DONE WITH IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW SINCE THAT THING KIND OF ADOPTE.YEAH, WE STARTED THAT THING OVER THREE YEARS AGO, WHICH IS JUST CRAZY. SO, ANYWAY. YEAH. THAT IS, COVERED BY STATE LAW, AND THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE PLAN. I CAN GET YOU ALL A COPY IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET. IT'S ONLINE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. OUR COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN. THAT IS WHAT ALL ZONING DECISIONS, SHOULD LOOK AT FIRST. DOES IT FIT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN? LAND USE PLAN IS A GUIDE. YOU KNOW THAT. IT'S ONLY UPDATED EVERY 5 TO 10 YEARS.
USUALLY CLOSER TO TEN YEARS IS WHEN IT'S UPDATED. SO THINGS CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE LAND USE PLAN MAY NOT BE 100. USEFUL ON A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL BE. IT'S STILL A PLAN FOR THE OVERALL CITY. THERE WAS, IT SAYS, CREATED THROUGH SPECIAL APPOINTMENT COMMISSION WITH STAFF, WITH CITIZEN AND STAFF INPUT, THAT WAS THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH, WE HAD A SPECIAL COMMISSION. IT WAS CPAC IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED AS A. YEAH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AND ANYWAY, IT'S ACTUALLY DONE BY, STAFF OR AND OR A CONSULTANT AND THIS SPECIAL COMMISSION. AND THEN IT'S BROUGHT TO PNC AND COUNCIL AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND ON THE RIGHT TRACK, ULTIMATELY, IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THAT COMMISSION, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL BY COUNCIL OR PNC AND THEN GOES TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL, FINAL APPROVAL. SO PNC MEETINGS, OUR GENERAL FORMAT CHAIRMAN CALLS A MEETING. WE DO THE INVOCATION PLEDGE LIKE WE JUST DID CITIZEN COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN WE HAVE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE EXECUTIVE SESSION AS NEEDED. I THINK WE'VE HAD 3 OR 4 EXECUTIVE SESSIONS IN MY 18 YEARS HERE. AND THE REASON IS IT HAS TO BE EITHER A LAND USE ISSUE OR A PERSONNEL ISSUE IS THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU CAN GO IN THAT ROOM. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE LAWYER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, EITHER ON THE PHONE OR IN PERSON. AND IT HAS TO BE THAT ITEM OR PERSONNEL ISSUE. SINCE PNC DOESN'T DEAL WITH PERSONNEL ISSUES, THEN IT HAS TO BE A LAND USE ISSUE, MOST OF THE TIME, IF, WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, COUNCIL WILL DEAL WITH THOSE SORT OF THINGS, AND THEN P AND Z WILL DISCUSS IT IN AN OPEN FORUM, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO COUNCIL AND THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, IT HAS HAPPENED, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY RARE, THE CONSENT ITEMS, MINUTES AND PLACES HAVE ALREADY SAID REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH IS SITE PLAN ZONING CASES OR ANY CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR ZONING CHANGES. SITE PLANS DO NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. THAT BEING SAID, EVERYBODY IS ALLOWED BY TEXAS STATE LAW. ANY CITIZEN CAN TALK ABOUT ANY ITEM THEY WISH. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY IT MAY NOT BE A PUBLIC HEARING.
LIKE IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY HERE THIS EVENING AND THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT MY WORK SESSION, THEY HAVE THE FULL RIGHT TO COME UP AND TALK FOR THREE MINUTES. IF THEY SO CHOOSE. AND THEN GENERAL BUSINESS IS BASICALLY US JUST TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE A MEETING THE NEXT TIME, WHATEVER.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, OR IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, THINGS THAT JUST WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK AND THEN ADJOURN. SO THAT WAS THE MEETING OVERALL. EACH ITEM, IS FOLLOWS THIS FORMAT. THERE'S AN INTRODUCTION STAFF REPORT. SO WHAT I'M DOING NOW. APPLICANT REMARKS OR CITIZEN COMMENTS IF NEED BE, PUBLIC HEARING IF REQUIRED. COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND THEN A MOTION TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, DISAPPROVE OR CONTINUE. APPROVE MEANS YOU APPROVE AS PRESENTED. FOR THE NEW FOLKS WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN WE HAVE AN ITEM, PLEASE JUST SAY IF YOU WOULD DO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED, JUST SAY JUST THAT, DON'T READ THE WHOLE SUBJECT LINE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS IF THE SUBJECT LINE IS MIS READ, THEN THAT'S THE ACTUAL MOTION, WE'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN WHERE IF SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE PROPERTY IS
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SEVEN ACRES AND YOU SAY, I APPROVE THE MOTION TO COUNSEL FOR EIGHT ACRES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT GIVES SOMEBODY AN OPENING TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE ISSUES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. SO, NOW THAT BEING SAID, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS IF THERE'S THINGS YOU WANT TO CHANGE BY ALL MEANS, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS, BUT THIS IS THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHATEVER THOSE MAY BE, YOU CAN DISAPPROVE AN ITEM, MAKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE, OR CONTINUE. THAT MEANS TABLE AN ITEM IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. WE CAN TABLE IT UP TO THREE MEETINGS FROM THEN. AND, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IF AND WHEN THEY COME UP. THIS LITTLE AREA DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IN RED. SO WE HAVE CAMERAS, IN HERE, THERE'S ONE POINTING UP RIGHT THERE. IT'S POINTING AT ME RIGHT NOW WHILE I'M TALKING. IF YOU GET ON THE INTERNET, YOU CAN SEE ME. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING A CAMERA BACK HERE IS GOING TO BE POINTING AT YOU OR SOMEWHERE NEAR YOU. IF YOU'RE NOT, WE OFFER YOU THOSE COMPUTERS SO YOU CAN LOOK THINGS UP. YOU KNOW? OR YOU CAN ASK STAFF ABOUT ITEMS AS THEY'RE BEING PRESENTED. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PICKING UP YOUR PHONES, BECAUSE IF YOU PICK UP YOUR PHONE DURING THE MEETING AND SOMEBODY SEES THAT AND THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE DECISION THAT YOU ALL MAKE, THEY CAN MAKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST ON YOUR PHONE. I'M SURE MOST OF US ARE GOOD CITIZENS AND HAVE NOTHING REALLY TO HIDE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S JUST A HUGE PAIN AND IT CREATES ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, THE PACKET IS ALWAYS EMAILED, I ALWAYS STRIVE TO SEND IT OUT BY FRIDAY BEFORE NOON, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING MORE TOWARDS THURSDAY NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COUNT IN, CITY HALL THAT ARE GOING TO FOUR DAY WORK WEEK, I STILL WORK FIVE, BUT I LOVE COMING IN ON MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS NOW BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS EMPTY TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND THURSDAY, NOT SO MUCH ANYMORE, BUT, SO WE'RE STRIVING NOW TO GET THEM OUT ON THURSDAY, BUT YOU'LL HAVE IT 99% OF THE TIME.YOU'LL HAVE IT FRIDAY BEFORE NOON. SO JUST ASSUME YOU KNOW, CHECK YOUR EMAILS. PRE-MEETING QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS PUT THAT SAME LINE IN THERE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, YOU KNOW, AS ALWAYS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR YOU KNOW OR WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, THE REASON WE ASK FOR QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND AS YOU REVIEW THE PACKET OVER THE WEEKEND, OR MONDAY IS IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR STAFF TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWERS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT YOU NEED FOR THE CITY OF WILEY. IF WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME TO RESEARCH IT, OF COURSE, QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS GOING TO COME UP DURING THE MEETING THAT YOU KNOW YOU DIDN'T THINK OF, OR THE APPLICANT SAYS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T THINK OF OR HECK, I SAY SOMETHING AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO AVOID THOSE. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION, PLEASE SEND IT TO US BEFOREHAND.
IT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OVERALL, SPEAKING OF THAT COMMENT, I ALWAYS MAKE ATTENDANCE. DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO BE HERE. EVERYBODY KNOWS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DO VACATION. WE ALL GOT LIFE THINGS THAT HAPPEN. THAT'S NO BIG DEAL, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MISS MEETINGS, THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW, AND ESPECIALLY I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU, I CAN ASK COUNCIL TO HAVE YOU REPLACED. I WILL NOT DO THAT UNLESS I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE HAVE ALL THE MEMBERS ON BOARD, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THE BEST DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BOARD'S SEVEN PEOPLE FOR A REASON. AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE HERE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY ON ZONING CASES OR ZONING CHANGES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL APPOINTED Y'ALL AND WE RELY ON Y'ALL FOR GOOD IDEAS FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF WILEY. SO JUST IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT'S GREAT. FINE. YOU KNOW, WE'LL WORK AROUND IT. I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT QUORUMS. WE GOT TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE HERE BEFORE. IF OTHERWISE, WE CAN'T HAVE A MEETING. P AND Z IS USUALLY REALLY, REALLY GOOD ABOUT HAVING AT LEAST 4 OR 5, BUT ACTUALLY P AND Z IS THE BEST ABOUT HAVING A FULL HOUSE. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY ON MEETINGS LIKE TONIGHT, IF I WASN'T GIVEN THIS, YOU WOULD LITERALLY HAVE BEEN A 32ND MEETING. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. OPEN MEETINGS. EVERYTHING IS ON THE RECORD, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT OPEN MEETINGS AND OPEN RECORDS. EVERYTHING THAT ALL OF YOU SAY AT THIS MEETING AT ANY TIME IS A MATTER OF OPEN RECORD, IT IS BEING RECORDED BOTH VIDEO AND AUDIO, SO BE AWARE OF THAT, CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF YOU DO FOR A LIVING, BUT THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP FOR A VOTE THAT YOU MAY HAVE A PERSONAL INTEREST IN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I CANNOT TELL YOU WHETHER YOU SHOULD, RECUSE YOURSELF OR NOT, IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I WILL TELL YOU IN GENERAL, THOUGH, IF YOU HAVE ANY, YOU DEFINITELY
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WANT TO DO IT. IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FINANCIAL TO GAIN FROM A PARTICULAR DECISION THAT COULD BE MADE. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB, THERE ARE OTHER INSTANCES, BUT, WE'RE GENERALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO AS STAFF GUIDE YOU ON THAT. THAT IS YOUR OWN DECISION OR, WITH BETWEEN YOU AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT REALLY GOES THAT FAR, YOUR ATTORNEY OR WHATEVER, IF YOU WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE, THERE'S ALSO TRAINING THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WE HAVE WE HAVE A BUDGET EVERY YEAR, IT'S THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAPPEN.DFW IS A BIG AREA. THERE'S LOTS OF ZONING THINGS THAT HAPPEN. IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND YOU'RE INTERESTED, A LOT OF IT HAPPENS DURING THE DAY, LIKE REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND THE INCLINATION, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I WILL SEND YOU A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT, WE GENERALLY SEND PEOPLE TO, AND YOU CAN GO AND THE CITY WILL PAY FOR IT, WE DON'T PAY, THERE IS MILEAGE, THERE'S NO PER DIEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS SERVE LUNCH. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO A DAY TRAINING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TOO MUCH. BUT, WE'LL PAY YOUR COST OF, GETTING THERE AND YOUR COST OF, GETTING IN, AND THAT'S US. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. MOVING FROM THE WORK SESSION, WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA THAT TWO
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ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF ANYBODY NEEDS ONE OF THOSE OR BOTH OF THOSE PULLED OFF, LET ME KNOW. OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED, A MOTION I SECOND AND A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.NOW PASSES SEVEN ZERO. SINCE WE HAVE NOTHING ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, MOVE TO ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE WILL HAVE A MEETING. THERE'S THIS IS A FIVE TUESDAY MONTH, SO IT'LL BE THREE WEEKS FROM NOW, AUGUST 6TH, AND WE WILL HAVE A MEETING. AUGUST 6TH. OKAY I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'LL SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE VOTE. WE'RE OUT OF HERE
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.