[CALL TO ORDER]
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AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE JUNE 25TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS AT THE WYLIE MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6 P.M. WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SET THAT TO VIBRATE OR TURN IT OFF SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO NEED TO TAKE A CALL, WE ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLL AT THIS TIME? YES MAYOR. MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVID. ARCHDUKE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG, PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM JEFF FORRESTER, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER, PRESENT. COUNCILMAN GINO MALIKAI PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. MAYOR THANK YOU, MISS STORM. AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR OUR INVOCATION TO BE LED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE TO BE LED BY COUNCILMAN MALIKAI. THANK YOU.
IF YOU PLEASE, JOIN ME IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE SO THANKFUL. SO THANKFUL TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, TO BE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY, THIS BEAUTIFUL STATE, AND THIS COUNTRY. FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH US THIS EVENING AND WITH THE PROCEEDINGS OF THIS MEETING.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO BE A PART OF THE GOVERNANCE OF THIS CITY. FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM CONFIDENCE IN THEIR JOBS, FATHER, AND THAT ALL OF THE ACTIONS THAT THEY TAKE WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU. FATHER, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, AND BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES WHEN THEY ARE SEPARATED . FATHER, I PRAY THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON JESUS.
AMEN. AMEN. PLEASE BE SEATED. SO THE FIRST PORTION OF OUR AGENDA THIS
[PR1. Keith Self Recognize the Police Department]
EVENING ARE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. SO WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THOSE ONE AT A TIME. AND I WILL BE JOINED DOWN FRONT BY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS FOR EACH ONE.ALRIGHT. AND OUR FIRST PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS GOING TO BE ON BEHALF OF CONGRESSMAN KEITH SELF'S OFFICE. SO IF I CAN ASK HIS REPRESENTATIVES TO JOIN ME DOWN FRONT, THEY WILL BE HONORING AND RECOGNIZING MEMBERS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YES, CHIEF. YOU MUST. YOU MUST COME JOIN US AS WELL. WELL, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT SO TODAY WE ARE JOINED BY MICHELLE BISHOP, WHO IS THE DISTRICT DIRECTOR FOR CONGRESSMAN KEITH SELF. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HER AS SHE HAS SOME RECOGNITIONS AND AWARDS TO PRESENT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU SIR, AND THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR JOINING ME HERE. I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF YOUR FOLKS ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE, BUT WE DID NOT WANT TO, MISS THIS VERY BIG OCCASION OF THE 2023 AWARDS FROM YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO DID YOU WANT TO CALL YOUR FOLKS UP THAT ARE HERE? OH, THERE SHE IS. HE'S STANDING OUT THERE. AND SENATOR JOHNSON. THANK YOU.
MILLION DON'T GET TO HIDE NOW. THEY'RE VERY HUMBLE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. OH, HERE'S ONE. SO THIS IS A CONGRESSIONAL CERTIFICATE OF RECOGNITION AWARDED TO AARON WALDRON ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENT IN CELEBRATION OF RECEIVING THE 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD. SO HERE YOU GO.
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND SINCE MOST OF THEM AREN'T HERE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE LETTER THAT THAT COMES WITH YOUR CERTIFICATE AS WELL, SIR, THIS IS ALL COMING
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FROM CONGRESSMAN KEITH SELF. DEAR DETECTIVE MEEHAN, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING HONORED WITH THE 2023 CHIEF'S AWARD AS A DETECTIVE WITH THE WILEY POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOUR UNPARALLELED SKILLS, EXPERTISE, AND PASSION FOR SOLVING CASES HAVE NOT ONLY POSITIVELY IMPACTED THE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFITED OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THE DEDICATION YOU HAVE SHOWN IN FIGHTING INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, AND YOUR WORK WITH THE DALLAS INTERNET CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN TASK FORCE HAVE LED TO NUMEROUS SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES, INCLUDING THE CLEARING OUT OF 20,000 CYBER TIPS AND THE RECOVERING OF 50 CHILDREN. WOW THESE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENTS UNDERSCORE YOUR COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE AND YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOUR EFFORTS HAVE PROTECTED COUNTLESS CHILDREN'S AND FAMILIES, PROVIDING THEM WITH SAFETY AND PEACE OF MIND. ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS WELL-DESERVED ACHIEVEMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I WISH YOU CONTINUED SUCCESS IN YOUR CAREER. SINCERELY, KEITH SELF, MEMBER OF CONGRESS. AND YOU ALSO HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL CERTIFICATE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU , THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.LET'S DO ONE GROUP PICTURE IS THAT EVERYONE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE GROUP PICTURE. WE DO YOU WANT TO READ THEM? OH, YEAH. SO WE HAVE SOME MORE THAT ARE UNABLE TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN SOME TRAINING. SOME OF THEM ARE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. YEAH.
SORRY BUT SERGEANT JASON SMITH, HE RECEIVED THE SUPERVISOR OF THE YEAR. JARED ELLENBERG, HE RECEIVED THE CIVILIAN OF THE YEAR AWARD. OFFICER BRIAN NORMAN RECEIVED THE OFFICER OF THE YEAR AWARD. JORDAN CANTU, OFFICER JORDAN CANTU, HE'S RECEIVED THE 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD.
CHRIS MORIN RECEIVED THE 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD. OUR CROSSING GUARD SUPERVISOR, TRACY GOODE RECEIVED THE 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD. ONE OF OUR SCHOOL RESOURCES RESOURCE OFFICER ANGIE MCINTOSH, ALSO RECEIVED A 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD. AT THE TIME, HE'S NOW A JUST GOT OUT OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY THIS PAST FRIDAY. HE GRADUATED FROM THAT SO NOW HE'S OVER ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT, POLICE OFFICER SIDE . PRIOR TO THAT, THIS IS FOR A DETENTION OFFICER, CLAYTON MOCK, WHO IS ALSO RECEIVING A 2023 ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD.
DETECTIVE JOSHUA ROUNDTREE RECEIVED THE ABOVE AND BEYOND AWARD. AND KAYLA SORENSEN, AN OFFICER, RECEIVED 2023 ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARD.
[PR2. Presentation for Outgoing Wylie Board and Commission Members]
NEXT. THIS EVENING, WE WILL BE DOING PRESENTATIONS FOR OUR OUTGOING WILEY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. MAYOR PRO TEM, WOULD YOU COME JOIN ME DOWN HERE TO HELP HAND THESE OUT TO ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, WE WILL RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT THIS EVENING AS WELL. FROM THE BOARD OF REVIEW, WE HAVE TO. NIKKI SMALL, WHO WAS APPOINTED IN 2022. DID YOU MAKE IT THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THAT. THOMAS VOLLMER, ALSO FROM THE BOARD OF REVIEW. DID YOU MAKE IT THIS EVENING? OKAY WE WANT TO THANK DOCTOR BRAD ABRAHAM. WE KNOW HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING. DOCTOR ABRAHAM IS A[00:10:03]
VETERINARIAN HERE IN TOWN, IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A VETERINARIAN ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD, AND HE HAS SERVED ON THAT BOARD SINCE 2016. SO HE DEDICATED EIGHT YEARS TO THAT BOARD. OUR CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD. I KNOW THAT JOHN STRAUB, JUNIOR, APPOINTED IN 2022, WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING. WE HAD SARAH COOK. ALL RIGHT. IS MICHAEL SUTERA HERE THIS EVENING OR AMANDA COOPER? ALL THREE SERVED FROM 2022 UNTIL PRESENT ON OUR HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION. WE HAD LORI SERGEANT , WHO SERVED SINCE 2022. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD. SHE ALSO SERVED. WE'LL GET IT TO HER . SHE ALSO SERVED ON OUR CEMETERY ADVISORY BOARD, UNTIL THAT WAS RECENTLY DISBANDED. ANITA JONES, SHE SERVED SINCE 2022 ON THE HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION AND ON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. AND LAST ON THE HRC. WE HAD STEPHEN BURKETT, WHO WAS APPOINTED IN 2023 FOR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD. TWO MEMBERS, CRAIG ALLEN, WHO HAS SERVED SINCE 2020. AND I KNOW I SAW HIM EARLIER.AND KIM MULLIS, WHO SERVED SINCE 2022 AS WELL ON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE HAD JENNIFER GREISER, WHO SERVED SINCE 2022 AND ALSO SERVED ON OUR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. JOSEPH MURDOCK, SERVING SINCE 2022, AND JOHN TREADWELL, WHO SERVED SINCE 2019 ON THAT BOARD. SO THANK YOU TO THEM AS WELL. FROM THE WILEY EDC, WE HAD AARON JAMESON, WHO SERVED SINCE 2022, DID NOT SEE HIM THIS EVENING. AND ON OUR ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, BYRON BUTLER, WHO HAS SERVED SINCE 2018. THANK YOU TO HIM AS WELL FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL GET THE THOSE RECOGNITIONS FROM US. I KNOW THAT, SOME OF THEM HAVE MOVED ALREADY AND OTHERS ARE NOT. DID NOT SEEK REAPPOINTMENT
[PR3. Oath of Office for Incoming Wylie Board and Commission Members]
AS THEY WERE VERY BUSY, BUT THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO THE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HERE AND TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH IS OUR OATH OF OFFICE FOR OUR INCOMING WILEY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO, MISS STORM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HAVE EVERYONE COME DOWN AT ONCE FOR THIS? SO IF YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT AND YOU WERE BEING APPOINTED OR REAPPOINTED TO ANY OF THE BOARDS IN THE CITY OF WILEY, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD TO TAKE YOUR OATH OF OFFICE DOWN FRONT.OKAY. AND THEN I'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, I, I AM JUDGE FILE WITH THE WILEY MISSILE COURT. SO I'M VERY PROUD TO BE HERE AND GET THE OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE OF SWEARING YOU ALL IN TO YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF WILEY. SO, I WANT YOU TO REPEAT AFTER ME. EXCEPT WHEN I ASK YOU TO STATE YOUR NAME, OBVIOUSLY, STATE YOUR OWN NAME. AND THE OFFICE THAT YOU'RE BEING APPOINTED TO. SO IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, DO YOU SWEAR AND SAY, I STATE YOUR NAME? I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM. THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES. OF THE OFFICE OF. STATE YOUR OFFICE. OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND. THE CONSTITUTION LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. AND
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OF THIS STATE. THIS STATE. SO HELP ME GOD. CONGRATULATIONS. SO? SO BEFORE ANYONE TRIES TO RUN AWAY VERY QUICKLY, BEFORE WE ALL GATHER FOR A PICTURE, I'M GOING TO START DOWN HERE. SINCE, YOU KNOW, YOU STAND ON THAT END, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE MICROPHONE FIRST. AND HE LAUGHS BECAUSE I KNOW HIM FROM THE EDC BOARD. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF YOU WOULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND THE BOARD OR BOARDS THAT YOU WILL BE SERVING ON SO THAT EVERYONE CAN GET A CHANCE TO PUT A NAME TO A FACE. BLAKE BRININSTOOL AND I AM ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD. HAROLD SMITH AND I AM ALSO ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD. TOMMY TODD I'M THE HISTORICAL REVIEW COMMISSION. AKBAR SHAIKH AND I'M ON THE CONSTRUCTION CODE. BRIAN ORTIZ AND I'M ON THE CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD AND REAPPOINTED TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. NICK FUENTES, PARKS AND REC BOARD. I HAVE SHAWN KHAN, A BOARD OF ARTS. GORDON HICKEL, THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, LUCA PERETTI, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ON PLANNING AND ZONING. TARA HARRISON, PARKS AND REC BOARD, QUASARS, PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. MANOJKUMAR PARDI, PUBLIC ART AND ADVISORY BOARD. SHANTEL MCMURRAY, PUBLIC ARTS AND ADVISORY BOARD.FRANKLIN MCMURRAY, CODE CONSTRUCTION BOARD AND PLANNING AND ZONING. SUSAN CRANFORD, THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD. SONIA TURNER, PARKS AND REC BOARD. ED CAFFREY, HISTORICAL REVIEW COMMISSION. MY NAME IS BO DYSON. I SIT ON THE WILEY PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. TODD CRANFORD CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD . ROD JUDGE AND I SIT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
RONALD FRANTOM CONSTRUCTION CODE BOARD. FERNANDO MARTINEZ, BOARD OF REVIEW. KEITH SCRUGGS, PLANNING AND ZONING. TASHA KIMBALL, LIBRARY BOARD AISHA HUTSON, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. COMES UP FOR US ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS ALLISON STOWE, HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION WHITNEY MCDOUGALL, PARKS AND REC FORBY PRISCILLA MAHONEY, ANIMAL SHELTER VETERINARIAN REPRESENTING SID HOOVER PARKS AND REC FOR BE. AND WHILE I DO SERVE AS MAYOR, SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN HOOVER, A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ALSO SERVE ON THE FORBY BOARD.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS RAISING MY HAND TODAY TO BE SWORN INTO THAT POSITION AGAIN. BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT'S UP HERE. THE CITY DOES NOT RUN WELL WITHOUT A GREAT NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS. EVERYONE UP HERE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO GIVE OF THEIR TIME, THEY'RE GOING TO, IF THEY'RE NEW, LEARN THAT THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES INTO THESE BOARDS AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE CITY AND THE CITY IS BETTER BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOARDS THAT BRING RECOMMENDATIONS. AND OFTEN THAT SPEND A LOT OF TIME VOLUNTEERING IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING THE CITY JUST A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. SO AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY STAFF AND THE COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR NEW OR REAPPOINTED MEMBERS OF OUR BOARDS AND EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU ALL FOR VOLUNTEERING. LET'S GIVE THEM ALL A BIG HAND.
[PR4. National Park and Recreation Month]
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AND WE WILL HAVE ONE LAST PRESENTATION IN RECOGNITION THIS EVENING FOR NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. SO ANY OF OUR EXISTING OR NEW BOARD MEMBERS, AS WELL AS STAFF WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING, WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME DOWN AND JOIN ME FOR THIS PRESENTATION.ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MONTH OF JULY, WHICH IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH HERE IN THE CITY OF WILEY. AND WE HAVE WITH US A NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS STAFF MEMBERS. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. I'M ALLIE HOLMAN, RECREATION PROGRAMMER. I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS, AND THE WILEY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS SO EXCITED FOR NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, WHICH IS JULY, SPARK CONNECTION. SPARK CONNECTION IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THIS YEAR'S THEME, WHERE YOU BELONG, WE'RE OFFERING 26 FREE AND PAID SPECIAL JULY ONLY ACTIVITIES RANGING FROM HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO NATURE AND COMMUNITY. A GUEST FAVORITE SPECIAL EVENT IS NERF WARS AT WILEY RECREATION CENTER FOR GUESTS AGES 4 TO 14. KIDDOS ARE GOING TO LEARN ABOUT NERF SAFETY AND DO SPECIAL GAMES AND ACTIVITIES, COMMUNITY PARK CENTER WILL BE HOSTING DINNER DOUBLE FEATURE AND THAT'S FOR GUESTS AGES 55. PLUS, THEY'RE GOING TO COME ENJOY TWO FILMS AND ENJOY DINNER AND DESSERT. THE WELCOME CENTER AT BROWN HOUSE IS CELEBRATING EVERY SATURDAY WITH A SPECIAL PORCH PARTY THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE LAWN GAMES AND LEMONADE, AS WELL AS POPCORN. AND PARKS IS HOSTING A SPECIAL PLANT TALK WITH PARKS AT COMMUNITY PARK CENTER FOR GUESTS AGES 55 PLUS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE VALUABLE TIPS AND TRICKS FOR PLANTS, AND THEN TUNE IN TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AS WE JOIN THE CONVERSATION OF HASHTAG WHERE YOU BELONG, FOR ALL THE FULL DETAILS ON ALL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH ACTIVITIES, AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES AND PARKS INFORMATION, FEEL FREE TO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE OR GRAB AN ACTIVITY MENU IN THE LOBBY RIGHT OUT HERE ON THE BROCHURE RACK, ALSO, WHILE I HAVE YOUR EAR, I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST. IT'S OUR FALL REGISTRATION DATE AND ALL OF THE FALL. FAVORITE SPECIAL EVENTS ARE COMING BACK. ALL OF YOUR HOLIDAY FAVORITES. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, PARKS AND RECREATION IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY SPANS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY AND ACROSS ALL AGE RANGES. WE HAVE EVENTS AND FOR KIDS AT A VERY YOUNG AGE, I WILL BE USING SOME OF THOSE HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. EVEN OFFERING SOME CHILDCARE SERVICES AT THE REC. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT SUMMER CAMPS AND CLASSES, WE'RE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF FREE PLAY, OPEN PLAY, AND OTHER EVENTS AT THAT REC CENTER. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADULTS TO COME AND WORK OUT. IF YOU'RE NOT LOVING THE SWELTERINGLY COOL 100 DEGREES THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE, THERE IS A TRACK TO BE ABLE TO GO AND WALK INSIDE. SO YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT SUFFER HEAT STROKE, BUT STAY IN SHAPE. SO IT'S A GREAT, GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT ISN'T WITHOUT THAT'S WITHOUT EVEN GETTING INTO THE SENIOR RECREATION CENTER THAT GIVES A PLACE FOR OUR SENIORS TO GATHER TO FELLOWSHIP AND TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE PARKS ACROSS TOWN. AND WHILE THEY WERE DELAYED BY, I BELIEVE IT'S NOW THE THIRD OR FOURTH WETTEST, SPRING OR YEAR. SO FAR
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IN THE HISTORY OF DFW. WE DO HAVE TWO SPLASH PADS THAT ARE COMING LATER THIS YEAR, WHICH WITH THE HEAT THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, WHEN THOSE DO TURN ON, I AM SURE THEY WILL BE QUITE BUSY. SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OFFERINGS THAT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM PROVIDES TO US YEAR ROUND, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE THEM. I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE I READ THIS PROCLAMATION TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY ARE INVOLVED OR ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD OR DEPARTMENT. MY NAME IS CRAIG ALLEN, I'M ACTUALLY OUTGOING, ON THE BOARD. I SERVED FOR FOUR YEARS AND, IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED, INCLUDING THE SPLASH PADS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED RIGHT NOW, NICK PUENTE AGAIN ON THE PARKS AND REC BOARD, THIS IS MY SECOND TERM STARTING. I'M GLORIA SUAREZ AND THE VICE CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. THIS IS BE MY SIXTH YEAR, SO I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE NOW COME TO FRUITION. AND IT'S A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY BEING ON THE BOARD TO BE A PART OF THE CITY, GROWING. ALI HOLMAN, RECREATION PROGRAMMER, BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS.THANK YOU. I'M COREY PARKER, I WORK FOR THE WILEY RECREATION CENTER PROGRAMMER. I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR NINE YEARS. HI, I'M CARMEN PELON, I'VE BEEN WITH WILEY SINCE 2008, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR. RISHI PATEL I'VE BEEN WITH THE WILEY PARKS AND REC CENTER FOR NINE YEARS, AND I'M ALSO A PROGRAMMER. SYDNEY TURNER, THIS IS MY VERY FIRST TERM WITH PARKS AND REC. JENNY LAMBERT I'M A PROGRAMMER FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR SEVEN YEARS. KATIE BURTON I'M THE RECREATION SUPERVISOR OF THE BROWN HOUSE AND THE COMMUNITY PARK CENTER, AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 14 YEARS. HI. JULIE PINNELL, PARKS AND RECREATION SUPERVISOR, AND I'VE BEEN HERE 15 YEARS. HI. MY NAME IS BO DYSON. I'M THE CURRENT SITTING CHAIR OF THE PARKS AND REC ADVISORY BOARD. I'LL BE GOING INTO MY THIRD YEAR. HI, I'M ANIKA SACCO. I'M PARKS AND RECREATION SUPERVISOR, AND I'VE BEEN HERE 14 YEARS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS BRITTANY WILLIAMS. I AM THE SUPERVISOR OF THE LOVELY REC CENTER NEXT DOOR, AND I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 12 YEARS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BRANT STOWERS, ASSISTANT PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR AND COMING UP ON EIGHT YEARS, SECOND STINT HERE IN WILEY. AND I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ FOR YOU ALL THIS EVENING. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING IN WILEY AND COLLIN COUNTY. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, DOG WALKING, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING AND EDUCATION ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASES A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF THE LOCAL TAX BASE INCREASED TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES, AND CRIME REDUCTION. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHEREAS THE WILEY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE CITIZENS OF WILEY AND OUR NEIGHBORS BEAUTY WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, MATTHEW PORTER, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS, ON THIS, THE 25TH DAY OF JUNE 2024, AM HONORED TO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 2024 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN WILEY, TEXAS, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO VISIT A PARK OR GET INVOLVED IN A RECREATION ACTIVITY DURING THE MONTH OF JULY. THANK YOU ALL AND CONGRATULATIONS.
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RIGHT. AND THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS THIS EVENING. WE WILL BE NOW HEADING INTO THE REST OF OUR AGENDA. AS ALWAYS, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND WE WELCOME ANYONE TO STAY FOR AS LONG AS THEY MAY WISH TO. BUT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK RECESS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO AHEAD AND EXIT. IF THEY WISH OKAY SO WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE US BACK INTO SESSION, AND WE WILL MOVE TO OUR COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS PRESENT AND WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE DO ASK THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE FILLED OUT A FORM IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR OR SIX IF OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING A GROUP. WE DO REMIND INDIVIDUALS COUNCIL CANNOT CONVERSE, DELIBERATE OR TAKE ACTION ON A MATTER DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION DUE TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. MISS STORM, HAVE WE HAD ANY FORMS TURNED IN TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS? NO. MAYOR. OKAY WITH NO FORMS
[CONSENT AGENDA]
TURNED IN TO SPEAK ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, I WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. STAFF AND COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS WHICH WE WOULD WHICH NEED TO BE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATION? AND IF THERE ARE NONE, I WOULD BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN MALIKI? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL SECOND MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR
[1. Consider, and act upon, an appointment to fill a Board of Review vacancy for a term to begin July 1, 2024 and end June 30, 2026.]
REGULAR AGENDA. FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON AN APPOINTMENT TO FILL A BOARD OF REVIEW VACANCY FOR A TERM TO BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2024. ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2026, MISS STORM, IF I READ THE PACKET CORRECTLY, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD BEEN SELECTED FOR THIS AT THE PRIOR MEETING, KRISHNA UPADHYAYA, WITHDREW FROM CONSIDERATION UPON BEING CONTACTED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY SO, COUNCIL, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, OR QUESTIONS OR MOTIONS? COUNCILMAN STRANG YEAH, I EXCUSE ME. I DO NOTE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ONLY HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, BUT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS HERE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION. THEY LEFT SOME CRUCIAL AREAS BLANK, AND UNLESS THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO ASK SOME, SOME QUESTIONS TO HELP FILL IN THE BLANKS, SO TO SPEAK, I FIND IT HARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PARTICULAR PERSON. OKAY SO IT DOES APPEAR WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL, SAEED SHAH, WHO APPLIED FOR THE BOARD, BUT I SEE WHAT YOU MENTIONED. OCCUPATION AND WORK EXPERIENCE BENEFICIAL DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING FILLED OUT, MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WOULD AGREE AT THIS POINT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO EXCUSE ME, PLACE AN INDIVIDUAL ON OUR BOARD OF REVIEW WHEN THE ONLY COMMENTS, DON'T REALLY RELATE TO, THE BOARD OF REVIEW, BUT RATHER THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY ON THE APPLICATION, AS WELL AS THE TIME IN THE CITY OF BEING ONLY THREE MONTHS, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO POSSIBLY, OPEN THIS BACK UP FOR CANDIDATES FOR A POSSIBLE, REVIEW IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, MAYBE, OR THE NEXT MONTH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF IT WOULD BE A 30 DAY PERIOD? WOULD THAT BE? WELL, IF COUNCIL'S DECISION IS TO TABLE IT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK WITHIN THREE MEETINGS, TO RECONSIDER IT. SO THAT WOULD GIVE ABOUT, A MONTH AND A HALF, ABOUT A MONTH. WE CAN WE CAN OPEN THE APPLICATION BACK UP AND SEE IF WE GET ANY APPLICANTS, OR WE WOULD. SO, SO IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH OPENING IT BACK UP, WE'D HAVE TO TABLE THE ITEM AND ASK FOR THE APPLICATION PERIOD TO BE REOPENED. UNTIL THAT PERIOD OR THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD. THAT'S CORRECT. WE USUALLY, REOPEN THE APPLICATIONS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST FOR BOTH BOARDS AND THEN ANY APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVE FROM SEPTEMBER FIRST IS PART OF THE INTERVIEWS. AND APPOINTMENTS NEXT INTO MAY OR JUNE. SO USUALLY IT'S CLOSED AT THIS TIME. SO, WE CAN OPEN IT BACK UP. I WAS TRYING TO SEE I THINK WE HAVE ALTERNATES ON THIS BOARD AS WELL, THAT'S AN OPTION IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE SEAT[00:35:06]
OPEN INSTEAD OF A SITTING, SEAT OPEN. SO BOTH OF THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE UP IN 2025. SO IF YOU DESIRE TO MOVE ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS UP TO THE SITTING SEAT, AND THEN WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE SPOT OPEN, INSTEAD. EITHER WAY, IF THE BOARD HAS TO MEET, WE WOULD REACH OUT TO THE ALTERNATE TO SEE IF THEY COULD ATTEND. SO THEN IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WE COULD LEAVE THIS SEAT OPEN AND UTILIZE AN ALTERNATE TO FILL THE BOARD IF NEEDED. FOR A MEETING UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE'D REAPPOINT THE BOARD MEMBERS. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD LEAVE IT, SINCE THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT IT HAS SEVEN SEATED MEMBERS AND TWO ALTERNATES TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR A FULL YEAR WITHOUT, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENT OF THE BOARD. OKAY, MAYOR, IF YOU'RE IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UNLESS YOU HAVE FURTHER COMMENTS OR THERE'S FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DICE, NOT FROM ME. I DO HAVE TWO OTHER INDIVIDUALS. COUNCILMAN STRINGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO SHE'S READY FOR A MOTION. OKAY. SO I'LL KEEP YOU TWO IN MIND. COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY, SO I WILL COME BACK TO YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND REOPEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE BOARD OF REVIEW FOR THE NEXT THREE MEETINGS.OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AS STATED TO TABLE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN STRING? I DO.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND TO TABLE A STATED COUNCIL. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. SO TO ANYONE OUT THERE THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY SERVING ON A BOARD, IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN SERVING, PLEASE COMPLETE YOUR APPLICATION IN TOTAL AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AT ONE OF THESE UPCOMING MEETINGS FOR AN INTERVIEW AND A CHANCE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
[WS1. Discuss the Fiscal Year 2025 General Fund Budget]
WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR REGULAR AGENDA THIS EVENING. SO WE'LL MOVE TO OUR WORK SESSIONS. WORK SESSION NUMBER ONE IS TO DISCUSS THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET.MR. PARKER, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE ARE IN FULL SWING OF OUR OUR, BUDGET PREPARATION FOR NEXT YEAR. AND THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU. LET ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT GOING TO LET ME DO FULL SCREEN. YEAH, THERE WE GO. NO, THERE WE GO. SO, TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE, MET WITH ALL THE DIRECTORS, REVIEWED ALL OF THE, INCOMING BUDGET REQUESTS FOR THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, SO THIS IS STRICTLY THE GENERAL FUND, YOU WILL GET YOUR, FULL BUDGET BOOKS WITH ALL THE DETAIL, THIS WEEK, TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK. SO YOU'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO MEET TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, SO WE'LL START HERE WITH THE KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE, PUT TOGETHER FOR ASSUMPTIONS, THE CERTIFIED TOTAL ESTIMATES. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE A LITTLE OVER $7 BILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION OR, VALUE IN THE CITY. VALUE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, IS ABOUT 212 MILLION, WHICH EQUALS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION OF NEW REVENUE FOR US IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS, WE DID PUT A, PROPOSED SALES TAX INCREASE OF 10% IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. THE ESTIMATED VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS, A LITTLE OVER $0.58, WHICH INCLUDES THE 3.5% REVENUE CAP PLUS THE INCREMENTAL RATE ALSO INCLUDES A MILLION AND A HALF IN EMS REVENUE AND, AS YOU'LL RECALL, OUR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER DISPATCH RECEIVED SOME VERY LARGE GRANTS. AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN HERE AS WELL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REVENUE NEUTRAL, REVENUE NEUTRAL PROCESS. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM.
YES, SIR. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. WHEN? ON THE LINE NUMBER THREE, WHERE IT SAYS
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PROPOSED SALES TAX IS A 10% INCREASE, THAT'S WE'RE ESTIMATING A 10% INCREASE ON INCOME FROM SALES TAX, NOT INCREASING SALES TAX. CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO INCREASE SALES TAX ON PEOPLE BUYING THINGS WITHIN THE CITY. BUT INSTEAD WE'RE ESTIMATING THE REVENUE BASED ON AN INCREASE IN REVENUE. AN INCREASE IN REVENUE OF 10% OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU.YES, SIR. AND I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. NO, NO THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. TWO QUESTIONS. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M HEARING IT RIGHT ALONG WITH, MAYOR PRO TEMS, THE 10% INCREASES IS, LOOKING AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 53% AT SIX MONTHS. AND SO WE'RE 3% OVER HALFWAY. YEAH, OUR REVENUE IS UP ABOUT 7. I THINK, BUT IT'S. YEAH, BUT IT'S 10% OVER WHAT WE PROJECTED THIS YEAR. OKAY. SO IT'S AN INCREASE. AWESOME. AND THE ONE QUESTION ON THE REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS AT 1.9 MILLION, KNOWING THAT THEY'RE THEY ARE OFFSET OR ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES, WERE ANY OF THOSE EXPENSES IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET? NO. THESE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
GOOD. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY WELL, LET ME THINK. I THINK THERE MAY BE ONE ITEM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WE CAN NOT A SIGNIFICANCE, THOUGH. NO. OKAY. IT'S I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT IS. OKAY.
BUT IT'S. YEAH, THERE MAY BE ONE ITEM, BUT THE REST OF THEM, IT'S FOR FUTURE YEARS. PERFECT.
AWESOME THANK YOU. OKAY SO INCLUDED IN OUR BASE BUDGET, WE DID A 10% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH, TODAY, WE'VE WE WE'VE GOT TO DO A LITTLE WORK ON OUR HEALTH INSURANCE.
INCREASE, I DON'T WANT MELISSA TO FAINT BACK HERE, BUT, THE INCREASE WAS 26. SO WE'VE GOT SOME SOME WORK TO DO ON THAT, FRONT TO GET IT DOWN TO WHATEVER WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO. WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS I MENTIONED LAST YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO, TO, ADD A PLAN. AND HAVE A BUY UP PLAN, AS WELL AS, SOME CHANGES TO OUR, WHAT'S IT CALLED? LETTY. FOURTH TIER.
SPECIALTY MEDICATIONS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL TO, TO REDUCE THE COST, OF COURSE, MY GOAL IS TO GET TO THE 10% OR LESS, SO WE'LL SEE. THEY DON'T TYPICALLY DON'T LET ME TALK TO THE VENDORS VERY MUCH. SO WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THAT GOES, WE DID AN AVERAGE OF 3% MERIT INCREASE FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY STEP INCREASE AND A 5% PAY PLAN ADJUSTMENT FOR POLICE AND FIRE, OF COURSE WE WON'T KNOW, AS THIS YEAR WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. SO, BUT I THINK THE GOAL OF THAT IS SO THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING THE ONE CHANGE AND THEN FALLING RIGHT BACK BEHIND. THIS IS TO MAINTAIN THAT COMPETITIVENESS. IT MAY IT MAY NOT TAKE ALL 5, BUT BUT WE'VE PUT 5% IN THERE AND HOPEFULLY THAT IS ENOUGH. THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAS A QUESTION. YES, SIR.
THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE ADJUSTMENTS WE MADE MID-YEAR FROM THIS YEAR. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES, SIR. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. AND THEN WE ADDED, WE MOVED, 750,000. WE, WE BASICALLY RECLASSIFIED SOME, FOR BE PARKS. EXCUSE ME FOR BE PARK EMPLOYEES FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THOSE OUT OF OUT OF, OUT OF FOR BE PARKS. SO HERE'S OUR OUR FUND SUMMARY, ESTIMATED BEGINNING FUND BALANCE A LITTLE OVER 24 MILLION, OUR PROPOSED REVENUES ARE 65 MILLION AT THE $0.58 OUR PROPOSED EXPENDITURES ARE JUST A LITTLE OVER 64 MILLION, RECURRING EXPENSES.
THERE ARE ABOUT 537,000, REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT IS 994,000. THE USE OF FUND BALANCE IS, A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION FOR, ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 21 MILLION, WHICH IS AT ABOUT 33% OF OUR FUND BALANCE. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST, IT'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAIL IN THERE
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WHEN YOU GET YOUR WHEN YOU GET YOUR BUDGET BOOKS, AT THE END OF THE WEEK. BUT THESE ARE THE REQUESTS THAT I RECOMMEND, AFTER GOING THROUGH ALL THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DIRECTORS, THESE ARE THE REQUESTS THAT I RECOMMEND, MOVING FORWARD, THE FIRST ONE, THERE IS A FACILITIES TECHNICIAN, THE SECOND ONE IS A CROSSING GUARD, WHICH IS, IS THAT RELATED TO THE NEW SCHOOL THAT IS NOT RELATED TO THIS? WHAT I WAS JUST SITTING THERE THINKING. WE HELD OFF ON, ADDING THE ONE FOR THE NEW SCHOOL. THIS IS A FLOATING CROSSING GUARD. IF YOU WILL, TO FILL IN FOR ANY VACANCIES. THEY'RE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW. WITH VACANCIES. PEOPLE GET SICK, PEOPLE GO OUT OF TOWN, PEOPLE GET SICK. YES SO I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE RETIRED AND GIVE BACK BY BEING CROSSING GUARDS. AND I KNOW AT TIMES THEY HAVE HEALTH CONCERNS.SO, YES, THIS IS A VERY GOOD WAY TO STATE THAT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME OUT THERE.
THE RECORDS CLERK AND PD THAT IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WILL HELP PUT ALL OF THE CASES TOGETHER FOR, FOR, THE DETECTIVES, RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S, ONE INDIVIDUAL AND SHE IS, DRASTICALLY OVERWORKED, WORKS OVERTIME. SO WE'RE NEEDING SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET INTO THAT AND HELP WITH THAT. THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY DATA ANALYST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED REGULARLY HERE LATELY ABOUT THE TENURE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THOSE FOLKS TO RETIRE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL. THIS IS A MORE OF A PROGRAMMER FOR OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM, OUR COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH. AND WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT NOW. ONE. AND IF YOU PUT A COUPLE OF OTHERS TOGETHER, PROBABLY ABOUT ONE AND A HALF THAT REALLY DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS INDICATED THAT THE POTENTIAL FOR RETIREMENT IN THE NEXT, ONE BAD DAY PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, REALLY. NO, SERIOUSLY, PROBABLY THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS. SO THIS IS A CRITICAL POSITION, WE ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR CAD, OUR CAD VENDOR THAT COMES OUT HERE, ON A REGULAR BASIS TO TROUBLESHOOT ISSUES AND, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THIS POSITION WOULD, WOULD TAKE PLACE, TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT POSITION AS WELL, SO THIS IS KIND OF A, JUST LOOKING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT AND TRYING TO GET, SOMEBODY IN THERE AND ACCLIMATED. SO THAT THEY CAN TAKE OFF, AND IT'LL BE SEAMLESS WHENEVER WE DO HAVE A RETIREMENT. SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES OF THIS POSITION IS TO ENSURE THAT WHEN DISPATCH GETS A CALL, THAT THE ADDRESS IS ABLE TO BE FOUND IN THE ROUTE TO GET THERE IS CORRECT THE ADDRESS.
THE UNITS THAT ARE DISPATCHED. AND THAT'S AN ONGOING, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOGLE MAPS ON YOUR CAR THAT SAYS DON'T KNOW WHAT ROAD YOU'RE ON. AND IT'S AN ONGOING, ANALYZATION OF THE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THE RIGHT UNITS ARE GOING THE CLOSEST AND MOST APPROPRIATE UNITS ARE GOING, AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT ONCE YOU PROGRAM A SYSTEM, IT'S DONE. BUT WITH ALL THE CHANGES, IT JUST THE MORE TRAFFIC. SO THEY'LL ANALYZE THAT, THAT DATA AND MAKE SURE THAT STAYS UP TO DATE OKAY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR WILLIAMS, MR. PARKER, I JUST WANTED TO CHECK. DOES THIS POSITION ALLOW TO GET SOMEONE IN THAT'S EXPERIENCED WHERE THEY'RE NOT ON THE GROUND FOR THEY'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT SYSTEM. IT SHOULD. YES, SIR. GOOD THANK YOU. YES, SIR, THE NEXT ONE THERE IS A CODE AND COMPLIANCE. CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, ONE THING TO NOTE ON THIS, THE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL PROBABLY WANT TO RETIRE AND COME WORK FOR THE CITY. IF YOU THOUGHT YOU GOT PAID 130,000, BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE, THE VEHICLE AND THE COMPUTER AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT POSITION AS WELL, WE'VE HAD TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SINCE 2006, WHEN OUR POPULATION WAS ABOUT 20,000. SO WE HAVE TRIPLED SINCE THEN. AND, IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK THERE'S, THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS, JUST DRIVING AROUND TOWN AND LOOKING AT HIGH GRASS FENCES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT, THAT, THAT WE COULD REALLY FOCUS ON. AND SO I WOULD ASSUME AND THAT'LL GET TWEAKED FROM PERSONNEL TO NON PERSONNEL. WILL THAT BE KIND OF SPLIT OUT WHEN WE SEE IT COME BACK IN THE FUTURE THEN. YES. WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. IT JUST HELPS TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE RECURRING
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PERSONNEL COSTS ARE THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO FOR NEXT YEAR. AND AS, AS OPPOSED TO I KNOW WE SAY ONE TIME THEY'LL NEED A VEHICLE FOREVER, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT. THE NON PERSONNEL. ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN THE NEXT TWO, POSITIONS THERE ARE IN PUBLIC WORKS. THE FIRST ONE THERE IS THE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR FOR SIGNALS TRAFFIC. WE TOOK OVER SIGNALS 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE SLOWLY BEEN BUILDING THAT, TEAM, SO THIS IS JUST, ADDING A PERSON TO THAT TEAM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE THERE IS STREETS. TOMMY HAD TALKED TO YOU ALL PRIOR ABOUT TRYING TO DO MORE CONCRETE WORK AND THINGS IN HOUSE, AND THIS IS PART OF THAT PROCESS. AND THAT PLAN, ONCE YOU GET INTO NON PERSONNEL, THE FIRST ITEM THERE IS JUST THE BUILDING AUTOMATION SYSTEMS. THAT'S THE, THE CARD ACCESS, THE BADGE ACCESS ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY WAS PUT IN WITH THIS BUILDING. SO IT'S, TEN, 11, 12 YEARS OLD NOW. SO IT'S REALLY , BEGINNING TO RUN INTO LIFE. THEY DON'T MAKE PARTS FOR IT ANYMORE. SO WE HAVE, I THINK THIS COMPLEX IS THE LAST WE'VE UPDATED THE, THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE CITY. IF I REMEMBER JAMES TELLING ME CORRECTLY, THE SECOND ITEM THERE, THE CAMERA REPLACEMENTS. THAT'S FOR THE POLICE CARS, THE BODY WORN CAMERAS AS WELL AS THE CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLES. CORRECT CHIEF? OR JUST THE BODY WORN CAMERAS? BODY WORN AND THE AND THE AREAS, AGAIN, THOSE, CAMERAS ARE IN THE LIFE. THEY DON'T MAKE THOSE ANYMORE. THEY DON'T MAKE THE PARTS FOR THEM, SO WE'RE KIND OF AT THE IF WE CAN GET THEM FIXED AND THEY'RE FIXING THEM, BUT IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE PARTS AND WE CAN'T GET PARTS FOR THEM ANYMORE. THE THIRD ITEM, THERE IS A BODY SCANS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS JUST A HEALTH AND WELLNESS. ITEM, TO HAVE THE SWORN PERSONNEL HAVE, BODY SCANS DONE TO DETERMINE, IF THERE'S ANY HEALTH ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT, FROM BLOCKED ARTERIES TO, YOU KNOW, LUNG ISSUES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. I KNOW OF TWO PEOPLE, 2 OR 1, TWO THAT WERE, IT SAVED THEIR LIVES, SO THEY'RE IT'S WELL WORTH THE EXPENSE THERE, THE REPLACEMENT HALL EXTRICATION TOOLS. YOU KNOW, THOSE THE JAWS OF LIFE THAT ARE ON THE FIRE APPARATUS. REPLACEMENT VEHICLES FOR PD. THAT'S JUST THE ANNUAL REPLACEMENT FOR THEIR THEIR TAHOE. AND THEN, THE LAST ITEM THERE, WHAT'S THAT FOR? TIM WHERE ARE YOU AT? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE GRANT, THAT'S FOR THE GRANT. THE MONEY, THE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING FOR THE LIGHTS. SO THE CITY HAS PAID FOR DESIGN. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE DESIGN FOR THE GRANT. IS IT DESIGN? AND THEN THE. YES, THE GRANT. SO YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT TO COME OVER TO THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE YOU MADE YOUR WAY DOWN HERE. NOW YOU GOT TO TALK. YES, SO WE WERE APPROVED FOR A GRANT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF STREET LIGHTS ALONG 544 AND AS WELL AS COORDINATION OF OUR SIGNALS ALONG 544 HERE IN TOWN. THIS THE COST COVERS THE CONSTRUCTION, NOT THE DESIGN. SO THIS IS THE DESIGN COST. THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO IT TO GET THE CONSTRUCTION. YES. AND THE GRANT AMOUNT, IF YOU REMEMBER. YOU JUST SENT ME AN EMAIL OVER, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER . IT'S OVER 2 MILLION. I WAS GONNA SAY YES. SO I JUST FOR OUR CITIZENS WHO MAY BE WATCHING THIS LATER AS A BUDGET REPORT AND ARE ASKING, WELL, WE'RE PUTTING $250,000 INTO DESIGN. WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? IF IT'S A GRANT, IT'S SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AND IT WILL UPGRADE. AND TO YOUR POINT, YOU KIND OF WENT THROUGH IT REAL QUICK. IT WILL ACTUALLY SYNC THOSE LIGHTS SO THAT THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER FROM FIVE ON 544, FROM 78 TO MCCREARY. YES SIR. SO I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM CITIZENS QUITE A BIT ABOUT OVER THE YEARS. SO AND I KNOW THAT'S A 90% FEDERAL AND A 10% STATE, THAT COMES THROUGH THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL. YES. GO AHEAD. 2.3 MILLION IS 2.3 MILLION. YES. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PAYING 10. THAT'S WHAT IT NORMALLY WORKS OUT TO. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT[00:55:04]
IT, WE'RE PAYING LESS THAN 10% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT COST. SURE. YES SO AND WE YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU. MR. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU ALL. YOUR WHOLE TEAM.THAT'S AMAZING THAT Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND DO THAT, ESPECIALLY AFTER 1 OR 2 YEARS OF US JUST TAKING OVER THE LIGHTS. SO THAT'S PRETTY PHENOMENAL. YOU'RE WELCOME. QUESTION I HAD ON THE 250. IS THAT FROM AN RFP OR IS THAT JUST AN ESTIMATED COST. THAT'S AN ESTIMATED COST.
AND I DO REALIZE WE'D BE PAYING THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE GOT THE GRANT OR NOT. SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, A BIT MORE THAN THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT PAGE? SO THE ITEMS RECOMMENDED FOR USE OF EXCUSE ME, USE OF FUND BALANCE. THE FIRST ITEM THERE IS AN ARMORED VEHICLE FOR PD, SEVERAL, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN TEN YEARS AGO, THEY RECEIVED, THE MRAP, THE MRAP AND WHATEVER THE OTHER VEHICLE WAS FROM THE MILITARY, THAT BECAME A MAINTENANCE NIGHTMARE. AND WE HAVE SINCE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIND ANYBODY TO WORK ON THOSE THINGS, SO WE HAVE SINCE DONATED THAT TO ANOTHER AGENCY, AND, THEY ARE GOING TO USE ABOUT HALF OF SEIZED FUNDS AND HALF OF, FUND BALANCE TO PURCHASE A NEW ARMORED VEHICLE, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT FOR, THE FY 23, 24 VEHICLES FOR PD. AND THEN THE NEXT FEW ITEMS ARE JUST REPLACEMENT VEHICLES, FOR FIRE, EMS, ANIMAL CONTROL CODE, CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES ARE ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD. WE'VE WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN OUR LIFE OUT OF THOSE, AND THEN THERE'S TWO STORMWATER ITEMS THERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS RELATIVELY NEW DEPARTMENT OR GROUP TEAM, AND THE CITY, AND WE'RE BUILDING THAT DEPARTMENT OUT. TYPICALLY, THOSE STORMWATER ITEMS WOULD BE PURCHASED THROUGH A STORMWATER FEE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT STUDY, BUT AGAIN, IT'LL TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO MAKE ANY PURCHASES OUT OF THAT. FLEET, THE, THE 15,000 POUND LIFT, AGAIN, THE, THE THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING MORE FLEET MAINTENANCE IN-HOUSE TO SAVE MONEY, YOU'LL RECALL TOMMY MENTIONED THAT IN HIS PRESENTATION AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THERE IS THE FLASHING, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK, AT HENSLEY AND CORNERSTONE, WHICH IS LOCATED, BEHIND TARGET. NOW, I DID WANT TO ASK THE UTILITY TRUCK. THAT'S FOR TRAFFIC THERE. I ASSUME THAT'S JUST A GENERAL TRUCK. YES, IT'S NOT A BUCKET TRUCK. OKAY. YEAH. DID DID THEY GET A REPLACEMENT BUCKET TRUCK? I THINK YOU'RE A YEAR OR TWO AGO. YES. OKAY. I JUST REMEMBER THEY HAD I SAW THEM OUT SOMEWHERE AND THEY WERE SHOWING ME THE OLD TRUCK. THAT WAS THE ONE WE GOT FROM ALLEN. YEAH SO. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE GET OUR USE OUT OF VEHICLES, SO REALLY, THAT'S IT, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY INPUT OR ANY, ANY DIRECTION AT THIS POINT, I KNOW, YOU PROBABLY YOU MAY NOT SINCE YOU HADN'T SEEN THE WHOLE BUDGET BINDER.
BUT WE'LL GET THOSE TO YOU. AND, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR OTHER QUESTIONS AND HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THOSE OR. ALL RIGHTY. DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE DO AT THIS TIME. WE MAY, WE MAY, WE MAY IN THE FUTURE. BUT, APPRECIATE THE UPDATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE BUDGET BOOKS LATER THIS WEEK. YEAH YES, SIR. THANK YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. AND THAT'LL MOVE US TO OUR
[WS2. Discuss the currently proposed Downtown Project lane, parking, and sidewalk configuration]
SECOND WORK SESSION THEN, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED DOWNTOWN PROJECT LANE PARKING AND SIDEWALK CONFIGURATION. AND I HAVE JANINE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING? OKAY. WELL, IT HAD YOUR NAME ON IT, SO I WASN'T SURE. SO ALL RIGHT, SO, MR. PORTER, ONCE IT'S UP AND YOU'RE READY TO, USE THIS PRESENTATION. YEAH DO YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT FULL SCREEN? YEAH, LET ME SHARE. OH, YEAH. YEAH THERE YOU ARE. THANK YOU.SIR SITTING DOWN. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT, I WANTED TO KIND OF
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GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT, AND THEN A FEW ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN POSSIBLY GET SOME INPUT FROM YOU ALL ON A FEW KEY ITEMS, THIS EVENING, JUST AS A BACKGROUND OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT, WE HAD THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE, BEGINNING IN 2022, AND WE FOCUSED ON CONVERTING THE THOSE TWO ROADWAYS, BALLARD AND BIRMINGHAM, TO ONE WAY STREETS, WE ALL REMEMBER THAT THE STUDY INCLUDED, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. WAYFINDING, LANE GEOMETRY, PARKING, AND THOSE ITEMS. SO WE GOT A CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORE DETAILED, IN-DEPTH LOOK AND DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AS YOU ALL KNOW. AND KIMLEY-HORN IS HELPING US OUT WITH THAT. BACK WHEN WE HAD THE STUDY RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS A VERY BUSY SLIDE, BUT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BOTH ON BALLARD AND ON BIRMINGHAM FOR ONE LANE.ROADWAYS WITH PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, WHAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT IS A ALTERNATIVE TO THAT. WE AFTER DISCUSSING THE DRIVES WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE CODE, THE FIRE CODE AND WHAT THEY NEED DOWNTOWN FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A WIDER STREET THAN A SINGLE LANE ROAD THAT WE HAD IN HERE. THE 12, THE 12 FOOT WIDE OR ON BIRMINGHAM, THE 14 FOOT WIDE ROAD HERE, FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A 24 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY. ON BIRMINGHAM. AND BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE TALLER ON BALLARD, REQUIRES A 26 FOOT WIDE CLEAR SPACE DRIVE. THE CITY'S. I'M GETTING MYSELF MIXED UP HERE. THIS IS A PHASE ONE. JUST GOING OVER. WHAT, OUR CONSULTANTS CURRENTLY WORKING ON. WE'RE DOING THE GREEN INDICATES THE NEW PAVING IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN BLUE IS SIGNING AND STRIPING, AND THE BLUE DASH LINE IS, DRAINAGE. AND THEN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, ASPECTS, TRAFFIC. NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL ON 78 AND TWO AND ONE NEW ONE ON BROWN. AND THEN REVISIONS TO THE TWO EXISTING THAT ARE OUT THERE. SO WE REACHED OUT AND WE PUT TOGETHER A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE. AND THAT COMMITTEE CONSISTED OF, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AS WELL AS JUST MEMBERS OF THE, THE PUBLIC, MEMBERS OF THE DOWNTOWN, OF, AND, AND, AND A FEW OF THE LOCAL, FOLKS DOWN DOWNTOWN. AND WE GOT TOGETHER, WE HAD THREE SEPARATE MEETINGS, AND YOU CAN SEE PICTURES HERE OF WHAT THOSE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE. IT WAS WE PRESENTED SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS ON BOARDS OF WHAT DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYFINDING THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK AT, DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR THE ROADWAYS AND FOR, AND HOW THE, HOW THE ROADS OR STREETS ARE GOING TO LOOK DOWN THERE. NOW, IN MAY, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, WE I TALKED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE HAD TO RESTRUCTURE A LITTLE BIT HOW WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, AS THE, AS THE ONE WAY IS UNIQUE TO WYLIE, WE THE PREVIOUS STUDY, AS I MENTIONED, DID NOT OUTLINE THE CLEAR WIDTHS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE THE CONSULTANT, PUT TOGETHER A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS, AND THEN I PRESENTED THOSE ITEMS TO THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, AT THE AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, WITH MY RECOMMENDATION, FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO JUST REAL QUICK, LET'S LOOK AT, ON BIRMINGHAM. SO IN BIRMINGHAM, WE NEED THAT MINIMUM 24 FOOT, FIRE ACCESS LANE, WITH THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD HAVE BASICALLY AN I BELIEVE IT'S AN 18 FOOT SINGLE LANE WITH A STRIPED BIKE LANE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO KIND OF LIMIT THE AREA. IF YOU GET IF YOU GET UP, I MEAN, EVEN 18FT, IT'S PRETTY WIDE. BUT IF YOU GET UP ABOVE THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET CARS WEAVING ALONG THE ROAD, NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST IN A SINGLE LANE, AND THEY TEND TO GO A LITTLE BIT FASTER IN THOSE
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SCENARIOS, YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING IS STILL ON THIS, PARALLEL PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS WE HAD BEFORE. AND THE BUT THE BUT THE, THE ACTUAL PAVING WIDTH HAD TO BE WIDER.THAT WAS OPTION ONE. AND THEN OPTION TWO WAS TO CREATE TWO SINGLE LANES, TWO LANES GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, IN TALKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND JUST GENERAL ENGINEERING PRACTICE, I THOUGHT THIS MADE A LITTLE MORE SENSE. JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD A VEHICLE STOP IN THE ROAD THAT WANTED TO REVERSE AND PULL INTO A PARALLEL PARKING SPACE, THEN IT WOULD GIVE OTHER VEHICLES, A WAY TO BE ABLE TO GO AROUND THAT, THAT CERTAIN VEHICLE. ALSO, IT HAS NARROWER LANES. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO 12 FOOT LANES, WHICH WOULD SLOW TRAFFIC, IN GENERAL. FOR, FOR THOSE AREAS, AND THEN WE OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE SIDEWALKS AND WHATNOT. AND LET ME LET ME GO OVER, BALLARD ALSO, SINCE IT'S ALSO ONE LANE. SO ONE OPTION THAT WE LOOKED AT ON BALLARD. SO BALLARD NEEDED A 26 FOOT WIDE CLEAR SPACE, SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS HAVING BASICALLY FOUR FOOT WIDE KIND OF BUFFER ZONES ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND IT WOULD ALLOW VEHICLES TO OPEN THEIR CAR DOORS AND WHATNOT AND, AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BUFFER ZONE, FOR THOSE FOLKS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR VEHICLES. AND SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S STRIPED THE BLACK LINES, YOU SEE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD ARE, ARE BASICALLY STRIPES, THAT, THAT GO DOWN EITHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
OPTION TWO FOR BALLARD IS AGAIN THE TWO INDIVIDUAL LANES. I WAS I WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS SCENARIO, JUST BASICALLY DUE TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE A VEHICLE STOP IN THE ROAD ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BACK INTO A PARALLEL SPACE, AND YOU ONLY HAVE ONE, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LANE, IT IT WILL IT WOULD STOP ALL THE REST OF THE TRAFFIC, FOR THOSE ITEMS. NOT THAT IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU WANT TO KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING, ALTHOUGH AT A SLOWER PACE. THE LANES HERE AGAIN, ARE A LITTLE BIT NARROWER. SO IT WOULD TEND TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN. WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING SOME OPTIONS WITH WITH OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS ABOUT WAYS, OTHER WAYS TO SLOW TRAFFIC IN THESE AREAS, WHICH INCLUDE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALL HAVE SEEN LIKE, ELEVATED INTERSECTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THIS KIND OF A, THERE'S KIND OF A LITTLE HIGHER BIT OF INNER OR AT THE MID-BLOCK CROSSING KIND OF RAISING UP THE, THE SIDEWALK A LITTLE BIT. PROVIDING SOME SIGNAGE, AND WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH SOME PICTURES THAT, THAT, THAT SHOW THAT VERY CLEARLY. BUT THOSE ARE SOME PRETTY GOOD WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE STRAIGHT STRETCHES LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN GENERALLY SLOW TRAFFIC. ANOTHER ITEM AND I DON'T HAVE ANY. THESE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES WITH I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WITH THESE BOTH OF THESE ITEMS, WITH THE 24 OR THE 26 FOOT WIDTH SPECIFICALLY ON BALLARD, OR THAT 26 FOOT WIDTH WE STILL HAVE, WE'LL STILL HAVE A LARGE AREA FOR PEDESTRIANS. SO THESE PICTURES ON THE TOP, THEY SHOW DOWNTOWN MCKINNEY. WE SHOW ABOUT 16FT ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS. THIS HERE IS PROBABLY ABOUT 18FT WIDE, SO IT'S A IT'S A FAIRLY STILL A FAIRLY GOOD SIZE WALKWAY . SO, I JUST WANTED THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO PICTURES. THAT THIRD PICTURE IS NOT IS A LITTLE BIT NARROWER. BUT IT'S KIND OF SHOWING, THE, THE LIGHTING THAT WE WERE SUGGESTING THAT KIND OF CRISSCROSS LIGHTING THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT, DOING DOWNTOWN. BUT ANOTHER, I SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THE, THE MINIMUMS ON THE MAIN STREETS, THOSE MINIMUM WIDTHS, THE 24FT ON BIRMINGHAM, THE 26FT ON BALLARD, WE SPOKE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF, RENOVATING OR RENEWING THE ALLEYS BEHIND THOSE BUILDINGS ON EACH SIDE OF BALLARD TO MAKE THEM WIDER AND TO MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE, SO THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T NEED TO GO UP THE CENTER OF BALLARD. THEY CAN GO UP EITHER SIDE IN THE ALLEY SECTIONS. NOW, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE ARE SOME DRAWBACKS TO THAT. THERE'S COST, OF COURSE, THE EXISTING ALLEYS OUT THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 4000FT OF ALLEYS
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IN VARIOUS STAGES OF, DISREPAIR OR OR AND THERE AND SOME GOOD ALLEY, TOO, BUT THERE ARE ONLY 20FT WIDE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN AGAIN THAT THAT LIMITED FIRE CODE, WE WOULD NEED TO WIDEN EACH OF THOSE. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UTILITIES THAT RUN DOWN THOSE ALLEYS. SO IF IT'S YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY THINK OF IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO BURY THOSE UTILITIES, WE LOOK AT ABOUT $2,000 PER LINEAR FOOT. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 4000 LINEAR FEET, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE $8 MILLION RANGE TO, TO PUT ALL THESE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND. SO THAT IS ANOTHER OPTION WE CAN LOOK AT. AND WITH DOING THAT, WE CAN GO BACK TO WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD. WE CAN GO BACK TO, TO NARROWER OR TO THE ONE LANE STREET, A LITTLE BIT WIDER WALKWAYS. BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BIG DECISION OUT IN FRONT, I, I WANTED TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AND GET SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE I NEED TO KEEP I WANT TO KEEP OUR DESIGN ENGINEER GOING ON THIS. AND THIS IS KIND OF A THIS IS KIND OF A KIND OF A CROSSROAD THAT WE NEED TO GET A DECISION ON, AND SO I'VE KIND OF GIVEN YOU THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS DOWN HERE. I WENT THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICK. IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I DON'T KNOW, MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR SO I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE LANE WIDTH THROUGH BALLARD AT 26FT, IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ACCESS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? YES SO IN THE PICTURES BELOW AND IN ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD REGARDING THIS THOROUGHFARE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT CRISSCROSS FESTOON LIGHTING ABOVE THE ROADWAY. SO IF WE'VE GOT THAT LIGHTING ABOVE THE ROADWAY, WILL THAT INTERFERE WITH THE FIRE APPARATUS? IF THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE THEIR LADDERS OVER THE TOP OF THE BUILDING? NUMBER ONE, AND THEN NUMBER TWO.YEAH, THE TREES THAT ARE PLANTED ALONG THAT THOROUGHFARE, I THINK THERE'S TEN TREES ON ONE SIDE AND 11 ON THE OTHER. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THOSE TREES ARE NOT GOING TO BE LITTLE TREES FOREVER. SO AS THEY GROW, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD COMPLICATIONS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AS FAR AS ACCESSIBILITY FOR FIRE APPARATUS THROUGH THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE OF DOWNTOWN, SO I REALIZE THERE'S A COST INCURRED OR COULD BE A COST THAT WE WOULD INCUR TO IMPROVE OUR DISTRESSED ALLEYWAYS IN ORDER TO SERVICE BOTH SIDES OF BALLARD. BUT IF FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IN MY ESTIMATION, TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL PLAN OF ONE WAY. BALLARD, AS WELL AS THE AS GAINING AS MUCH REAL ESTATE FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS TO THE STREET WAY AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S JUST MY $0.02, BUT I JUST I THINK THAT THAT'S THE GOAL. WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN WAS TO INCREASE THE WALKABILITY IN THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN. AND I THINK AS WE START LOOKING AT PUSHING THE LANE WIDTH OUT AND THEN CREATING THIS LANE WIDTH SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE APPARATUS, THAT THAT STUDENT LIGHTING IS NOT GOING TO WORK DOWN THERE.
THE TREES, CERTAIN CALIBER TREE, CALIPER SIZE OF TREE WITH ITS FOLIAGE EXTENDED ABOVE. THERE'S ALSO GOING TO PLAY HAVOC OR WREAK HAVOC ON THE UTILIZATION OF, A FIRE APPARATUS SHOULD ONE BE NEEDED IN DOWNTOWN. SO THAT'S JUST MY $0.02. THANK YOU. SURE. OKAY COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I THINK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, I BELIEVE THAT EITHER 2 OR 3 ROUNDS OF THE PREVIOUS PLANS BEFORE WE GOT TO WHERE WE VOTED ON, LET'S GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE WENT FORWARD WITH IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP THE FIRE LANE ISSUE. AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING'S CHANGED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AS FAR AS THE CODE IS CONCERNED. WHAT WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS ENGINEERING TO NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO DIG IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR EARLIER, I SHOULD HAVE AND I DIDN'T MEAN FOR YOU. NO, NO, NO, I SAID THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A CONSULTANT THAT WAS WORKING ON IT, AND I. RIGHT. BUT I'M NOT EVEN SAYING I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE SAME ONES THAT ARE WORKING ON IT NOW. JUST THE ONES THAT THEY PROVIDED. AND WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE PLANS TO US, I FIGURE THAT WHEN WE HIRE THEM AS A CONSULTANT, THAT WE'RE HIRING THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BRING US SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FALL WITHIN THE CURRENT CODES. THAT'S THEIR JOB. THAT'S WHAT THEIR LICENSE IS FOR. SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DID WE
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SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN GOING THROUGH REVISIONS AND OUR TIME AND THE CITY'S TIME AND STAFF'S TIME AND ALL TO COME TO THE POINT OF, OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE, NOW, WE GOT TO RETHINK THE ENTIRE PROJECT AFTER WE'VE GONE BEYOND FEASIBILITY TO SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY, REALLY BASIC IN THE IN THE STREETS AND ENGINEERING. AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS YOUR CATCH TO CATCH. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HIRED A CONSULTANT IS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FOR THEM TO CATCH AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU GOT TO DO THIS IS YOUR MINIMUM. SO AND I'M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS AS MUCH AS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IS THERE SOMETHING WE DID AND WHAT WE ASKED THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NEXT TIME NOT TO DO SO. WE DON'T GET BACK IN THIS SITUATION AGAIN AND CHASE OUR TAIL. YOU KNOW, IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. OH YEAH. DEFINITELY.I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THESE ITEMS MUCH EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT THROWING EXCUSES OUT THERE. I BELIEVE THAT THE LAST ENGINEER WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL, YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MAKE ONE WAYS EACH DIRECTION? WHERE DO SIGNALS NEED TO BE? NOT NECESSARILY. WHAT'S THE MEASURED DISTANCE FROM THE FACE OF THIS BUILDING TO THE FACE OF THIS BUILDING, AND EXACTLY HOW MUCH? BECAUSE WHAT WE WHAT WE ENDED UP FINDING IS THAT SO THEY WERE USING SOME GENERAL NUMBERS WHEN THEY CAME UP WITH THAT. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EARLIER. SO THEY HAD GENERAL NUMBERS HERE.
HOWEVER, THEY HADN'T TAKEN A BASICALLY A SURVEYED POINTS ALONG THERE TO GET AN EXACT IDEA OF WHAT THAT OF THE DISTANCE. SO THEY WERE JUST RECOMMENDING JUST BASICALLY LAYING ASSIGNMENTS. IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, AND THEY USED KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA. BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY FOUND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE, OUT THERE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN WHAT THEY WERE ANTICIPATING HERE. SO ADDING LIKE WE ADDED A SECOND LANE, BUT WE DIDN'T LOSE ALL OF THE FOOTAGE OF THE SECOND LANE, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, BECAUSE WE KIND OF WE GAINED A LITTLE BIT BACK BY DOING THE MORE OF A DETAILED STUDY DOWN THERE. I THINK IT WAS JUST THE DIFFERENCE OF THE TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAD WE HAD WE HAD A ONE WE HAD ONE ENGINEER THAT CAME IN AND DID THE DRAINAGE DESIGN.
THEY PURELY LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE. WE HAD ONE COME IN AND JUST DO THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WHICH IS ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WENT INTO. YEAH, IT WENT INTO IF WE CAN DO SO BASED ON WHAT THEY CAME BACK WITH, THEY RECOMMENDED WE COULD DO A ONE FOOT OR A ONE LANE WIDE SCENARIO. BUT IT JUST DIDN'T COME OUT. I DON'T WANT TO. THEY JUST DIDN'T SAY WHAT SIZE IT HAD TO BE. IT WAS MORE ONE LANE OR OR NOT. RIGHT. THEY HAVE SIZES ON HERE. SO THAT WAS USED IN GENERAL. SO YEAH IT. AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF OF COURSE IF WE LOOK AT CHANGING IT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND RELOOK AT THE, NUMBER OF PARKING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING AND PERCENTAGES FROM, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE ROUNDS OF NUMBERS OF PARKING SPOTS. ALSO IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, BECAUSE I PARKING SHOULD STAY THE SAME. GENERALLY THE PARKING SHOULD STAY THE SAME. IT'S JUST THE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS HOW DO WE WANT TO PROCEED ON BIRMINGHAM? I AS FAR AS ONE LANE WITH A BIKE OR TWO. AND THEN ON BALLARD, DO YOU LIKE THE OPTION OF ONE LANE, TWO LANES OR ALLEYWAYS? YEAH, I HEAR THE OPTIONS NOW THAT. BUT NO THANK YOU. YEAH. COUNCILMAN MALIKI SO THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE SEEN ANY, ANY OF IT SINCE I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THE DAIS, BUT JUST SITTING HERE AND I'M. I WASN'T HERE WHEN THE FIRST PROPOSAL WAS DONE. I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS ABOUT TAKING A STEP FORWARD AND THREE STEP BACKWARDS WITHOUT DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE FROM THE PREVIOUS FOLKS THAT WORKED ON THIS. MY CONCERN IS THAT EVEN NOW LOOKING AT THIS, I SEE VERY LIMITED PARKING DOWNTOWN. ANYWAY AND IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT THIS IS BEING DESIGNED, THEN LET'S LOOK AT IT AS OVERALL STRUCTURE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE EVEN IF WE GO ONE WAY, IF IT'S TWO LANES OR ONE LANE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 5 TO 10 PARKING SPOTS IN ONE AREA, IN ONE PIECE OF STREET, WHERE IF WE TAKE THOSE AWAY AND MAKE NO PARKING ON BALLOT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE PUT THE PARKING OFFSITE ON SOME OTHER AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR, THEN THAT MIGHT ALLOW FOR BIGGER SIDEWALKS, MAY ALLOW FOR BIKE SPOTS, AND MAY ALLOW FOR TWO LANES WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. NOW GRANTED, WHAT COUNCILMAN? WHAT
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MAYOR PRO TEM SAID ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION AND THE LIGHTS ON TOP AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WE NEED TO SEE. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GO IF WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS. AND WE TOOK A STEP BACKWARD ALREADY, LET'S FIGURE OUT AS A WHOLE PROJECT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX ONE THING AT ONE POINT AND THEN HAVING TO RE GO AND REDO AND SPEND MORE MONEY TO FIND OUT THE PARKING AND REDO THE WHOLE THING AGAIN, IF WE NEED TO DO THE ALLEYWAYS FOR CERTAIN THINGS, IS THERE MORE ROOM TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS WITH WITHIN THE ALLEYWAYS THAT WILL ALLOW THE MAIN ROADS TO BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BEAUTIFY, OR HOW DO WE WANT TO USE DOWNTOWN? THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS, IS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY UP FRONT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REDO IT BACK IN 5 TO 6 YEARS. WHEN WE FIND OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, PARKING ISSUE DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS FIXES ANY OF THAT . SO MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK? I SAW YOU HAD BEEN WAITING. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE ON PARKING DOWNTOWN WHEN THE MAIN ISSUE HERE IS MORE OR LESS JUST THE WHETHER OR NOT THE TRAVEL LANE OR LANES THROUGH THESE TWO STREET OPTIONS ARE, ARE WHAT I THINK. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE TRAVEL OPTIONS ON THESE TWO LANES. THE PARKING AND THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN PICTURE FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT ACTUALLY INCREASED THE PARKING FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA BY OVER 30 SOMETHING PARKING PLACES, BECAUSE WITH BALLARD GOING ONE WAY FROM 78, THAT ENTIRE AREA DOWN THERE BECOMES HEAD END PARKING FROM 78 OR NOT DIRECTLY AT 78, BUT ONCE YOU GET YOUR TURN IN THERE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, ALL THE WAY INTO, I BELIEVE IT'S OAK. IT'S AT OAK OR MARBLE. ONE OF THE TWO, BUT THAT'S THE PARKING ISSUE IS NOT A IS NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE DOWNTOWN ON THE TOTAL PICTURE, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO PARKING OPTIONS OFF JACKSON, THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN STARTED LAYING OUT TOO. SO THE FOCUS TONIGHT IS JUST ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE, THE MOVE TO THE LANES OR WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO LOOK AT MOVING TO THE ALLEY, IF I'M CORRECT. IS THAT PRETTY? YES. THAT'S RIGHT. SO, I PRESENTED TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS IF WE WANTED TO KEEP THE FIRE ACCESS ON THE MAIN LANES, AND THEN WE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR EACH ONE. OR IF WE REDID THE ALLEYS, WE COULD, WE COULD GO BACK WITH, SO A WHOLE DIFFERENT SECTION. I MEAN, SO I'LL GIVE MY OPINION RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE ON BIRMINGHAM. I'M NOT FUSSED ABOUT, STREET OPTION NUMBER TWO, WHERE YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES COMING THROUGH, BUT ON BALLARD, I BELIEVE, OPTION NUMBER ONE, AND REVISITING THE USE OF THE FIRE APPARATUS ON, ON THE ALLEYWAYS, WOULD BE MY. PREFERENCE AND THEN RECLAIM SOME OF THAT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA OUT IN FRONT OF THE STORES AND SHOPS. OKAY, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK AND JUST GIVE, GIVE MY THOUGHTS REAL FAST. AND THAT IS, BIRMINGHAM. I UNDERSTAND BOTH OPTIONS. IN THAT CASE, I WOULD PROBABLY PERSONALLY LEAN TOWARDS ONE LANE JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT IF OF MY OPINION IS ON BALLARD, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY ONE LANE, LOOK AT THE ALLEYWAYS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT, A MULTI-STORY EDC STRUCTURE POTENTIALLY GOING IN ON JACKSON ON THE PROPERTY. THEY OWN, I'M SURE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO WANT GOOD ACCESS TO IT FROM ALL ANGLES. IF IT BECOMES A MULTI STORY WITH RESIDENTIAL, THEY'LL PROBABLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE FRONT AND THE BACK, WHICH MEANS THAT ALLEYWAY WILL HAVE TO GET UPGRADED TO PROVIDE A FIRE LANE AT THAT POINT. ANYWAY WHICH REALLY ONLY LEAVES THE KIND OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BLOCK, SO TO SPEAK, AND I KNOW IT EXTENDS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF IT. AND SO I SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO NATURALLY EVOLVE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EDC AS WELL, AND SO FOR ME, I'D RATHER JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE MAYOR PRO TEMS POINT, IF WE WANT TO DO ANY SORT OF HANGING LIGHTS, IF WE HAVE TREES THAT ARE LARGE AND PROVIDE SHADE, NOT A PROBLEM NOW. BUT IN 15 YEARS, WHEN THAT OAK TREE IS BIG AND BUSHY, TRYING TO SWING A LADDER ACROSS, THAT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TRY TO DO ANGLES, THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M I'M NOT SOMEONE THAT HAS TO TRY TO DO THAT. BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, I WOULD IMAGINE FROM WATCHING IT THEY DON'T EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHIP UP, CUT IT AT SHARP ANGLES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID WITH TOO NARROW OF A DRIVE LANE AND STABILITY ISSUES, TOO. SO, FOR ME, I WOULD DO THE ALLEYWAYS. AND THE REASON I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS ONE LANE ON[01:25:03]
BIRMINGHAM WOULD BE JUST SO IT MATCHES BALLARD. SO THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY INTO DOWNTOWN AND PEOPLE DON'T TRY TO TURN THE OTHER ONE INTO A CUT AROUND. SURE, BUT I MEAN, I WOULDN'T LOSE SLEEP OVER IT BEING TOO. BUT FOR CONSISTENCY, FOR TRAFFIC FLOW AND PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING, HEY, THESE ARE ONE LANE, ONE WAY STREETS, I WOULD STICK WITH THAT, BUT COUNCILMAN HOOVER, HOW BIG ARE THE ALLEYWAYS CURRENTLY? 20FT. HOW MUCH? 2020. SO SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET 26FT OUT OF 20? WELL, WE HAVE TO THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO WE HAVE TO PURCHASE RIGHT AWAY, IN THOSE AREAS ALSO.OKAY. I MEAN, THAT'S WHICH AT $50 A SQUARE FOOT, IT'S ALSO PARKING. YEAH. PARKING. THERE'S, THERE'S PARKING IN THE REAR OF. OKAY. BUT I MEAN THERE'S BETWEEN THE CHURCH ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S REAR PARKING BEHIND THOSE BUSINESSES ON BALLARD, ON SOME OF THEM OR ALL OF THEM? ALL OF THEM. SAME WAY ON THE WEST SIDE. SO THERE'S THERE IS MORE THAN JUST 20 WHATEVER FEET THE WEST SIDE IS ACTUALLY WIDER. CORRECT FOR THE LAND AND WINERY SIDE. YES. IS WIDER THAN THE OKAY CHURCH SIDE. WE'LL REFER TO THEM THAT WAY SINCE I MAY NOT BE EAST WEST CORRECTLY UNDERSTOOD, I AGREE. ALL RIGHT, YEAH. LET'S LOOK AT THE SINGLE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION OR ON BALLARD AND ON BIRMINGHAM WITH TAKING UP SOME OF THE ALLEY. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH SINGLE LANE IS THAT IF SOMEONE IS COMING OUT OF THAT PARKING SPOT AND SOMEONE IS WANTING TO BACK INTO THAT PARKING SPOT, THE WHOLE ROAD IS WAITING ALL THE WAY BACK THERE UNTIL THAT PERSON COMES OUT AND THAT PERSON BACKS IN AND THAT IS BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC, NOT ONLY BALLARD, BUT BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC ON 78 OR BROWN AREA COMING IN OR COMING OUT. SO IT GOES BACK ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND GOD FORBID THAT PERSON IS HAVING A HARD TIME GOING IN. THERE IS A BIG STOP.
NOW, I GRANT, I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING TWO LANES, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE TRYING TO GO AROUND IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS. SO SOMEHOW I WOULD PREFER TWO LANES IF WE CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT THE SPEED, EVEN THOUGH THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY LOW SPEED, THE SPEED OF COMING AROUND OR GOING INTO THAT LANE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND HOW THAT WOULD BLOCK THE TRAFFIC. OKAY I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE ELSE TO GIVE THEIR OPINION.
COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, WERE YOU READY? I SAW YOU LEAN FORWARD. SO IF YOU'LL LET US KNOW. KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS, I'VE GOT ONE OTHER QUESTION. THE, DEPICTION IN THE BALLARD, SLIDE SHOWS PARALLEL PARKING ON BOTH SIDES. IS THAT WHAT THE COUNCIL IS THAT WHAT WE VOTED FOR WAS PARALLEL PARKING DOWN BALLARD? YES I THINK SOME OF MY FRUSTRATION EARLIER WAS THINKING THAT WE VOTED FOR THE OPTION THAT HAD, ANGLED PARKING. AND SO I WAS THINKING WE WERE LOSING THE ANGLED PARKING, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WERE HAVING TO GO TO PARALLEL BECAUSE OF THE LANE ISSUE. NO, THE PARALLEL WAS WAS ALWAYS MY DEDUCTIVE REASON THAT WRONG I APOLOGIZE, BUT THAT WAS I THINK WHAT I WAS THINKING I WAS SEEING IS THAT WE WERE HAVING TO CHANGE THE PARKING DOWNTOWN RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME. RIGHT, SO, I, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF PUTTING THEM IN THE ALLEYWAY WITHOUT VOLUNTARY CONSENT OF THE OF THE LANDOWNERS , MYSELF. SO IF THAT MEANS WE ONLY HAD A DIFFERENT OPTION THAN WHATEVER THAT DIFFERENT OPTION IS, SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, HE STILL NEEDS FEEDBACK ON. DO YOU WANT ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC ON BIRMINGHAM AND BALLARD OR TWO LANES? I THINK I LIKE THE TWO LANES. OKAY. SAME DIRECTION THOUGH. YES. YEAH.
OKAY. I WILL ASK COUNCILMAN STRANG IF YOU WILL GIVE YOUR OPINION. YEAH. NOT A BIG FAN OF PARALLEL PARKING, ESPECIALLY THESE DAYS. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY, I'M LESS OF A FAN OF IT, BUT, I WILL GO WITH THE TWO TRAVEL LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. MAINLY BECAUSE I JUST I'VE SEEN I SEE, I'VE SEEN IT ALL OUT THERE IN MY TRAVELS, HOW PEOPLE CAN ACT WITH WAITING FOR PEOPLE. I THINK TWO LANES WOULD BE IMPORTANT. THERE IS A LITTLE MORE RISK. THERE BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BETTER WAY TO GO. THE ALLEY. I LIKE THE IDEA. THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT
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WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IS LIKE MAYBE 26FT IN SOME OF THESE SPOTS. SO I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED IF WE START DOING RIGHT OF WAY PURCHASES, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S PIECES OF PEOPLE'S BUILDINGS, PARTICULARLY JUST TO HELP YOU OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN JEFFERSON AND, BROWN. BUT ALSO, JUST SOUTH OF, JEFFERSON, INTO THE ALLEY THAT THOSE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, AT LEAST ON GOOGLE MAP MEASUREMENTS, ARE BASICALLY 26FT OR CLOSE FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING FROM WHAT I SEE. YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN. I DON'T MIND TAKING A LITTLE PARKING OR A UNUSED STRIP OF GRASS OR SOMETHING, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE GOING TO NEED SOME SPACE FROM BUILDING A ROAD, RIGHT? CAN'T JUST. RIGHT. SO WHAT ARE OUR THOUGHTS THERE? SO TYPICALLY WHEN TYPICALLY AN ALLEY SECTION YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD WHATEVER THE WIDTH OF THE PAVING YOU NEED. AND THEN LIKE TWO FEET ON EITHER SIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND KEEP CLEAR. SO YOU BASICALLY NEED 30FT. SO BASICALLY 30FT FOR 2030 UNLESS WE CAN ALL WE CAN ALWAYS WORK WITH THAT. YOU KNOW WE CAN ALWAYS DO SOME. HOWEVER NOTE THAT IN ADDITION THERE ARE ELECTRIC LINES BEHIND THESE BUILDINGS AND THEY HAVE TRANSFORMERS ON THEM. AND WE TAKE THOSE TRANSFORMERS OFF. YOU HAVE TO FIND A SPOT SOMEWHERE TO PUT THOSE BIG BOX TRANSFORMERS. YEAH. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL DOWN EACH ALLEY. SO YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO FIND EASEMENTS AND AREAS FOR THOSE, WHICH, WHICH YOU PROBABLY BE ABLE TO FIND SOME. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AMPLE PLACES. THERE ARE. THERE ARE AREAS I'M A LITTLE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE BUILDINGS ARE THAT TIGHT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT HAS TO BE RIGHT AS A CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, THERE ARE PARKING AREAS THERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, BUT THAT ALL NOT ALL NEED NOT BETWEEN JOLT PRINTING AND, THE GAS STATION. SO WE'RE I'M JUST STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT THE, THE BEHIND WHAT IS THAT, THE 100 BLOCK OF BALLARD. SO NOT AS FAR AS JOKE. YEAH. NOT NOT THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ALLEYS ALL THE WAY UP. SAYS IN BETWEEN MARVEL. ESSENTIALLY THE 100 BLOCK BETWEEN MARVEL AND JEFFERSON LANDING DOWN TO THE BOUTIQUE. SO IF IT'S JUST THAT, IT'S GOT PLENTY OF SPACE. I'M I'M OKAY WITH THE UTILITIES GOING UNDERGROUND THERE, WIDENING UP THE ALLEY A BIT, I THINK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTEREST IN PLACING SOME BUILDINGS THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE I'M SURE FIRE IS GOING TO WANT TO HAVE ACCESS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN TO SOME. OH, BY THE WAY, THE CRISS CROSS LIGHTS, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT BETTER. WITHOUT THAT, I'M NOT REALLY IN SUPPORT OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BLOCK LADDERS AND OTHER APPARATUS. THAT'S ABOUT IT. DID I HIT EVERYTHING? I THINK I DID? SO JUST TO RECAP RECAP YES OR NO ON EXPLORING THE ALLEYWAYS. YES, IN THE ALLEYS. OKAY. AND IF WE DO THE ALLEYWAYS, ONE LANE OR TWO LANE DRIVEWAYS, TWO LANE.OKAY. SO JUST AS A NOTE, IF WE DO TWO LANES, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL THE ALLEY WORK. FINE UNLESS YOU WANT. I WAS GOING TO SAY UNLESS YOU WANT THE LIGHTS AND SOME OF THE MATURE TREES.
AND I THINK THAT HAVING THE LIGHTS IN THE MATURE TREES IS ACTUALLY A VERY ATTRACTIVE FEATURE. IT WOULD REALLY HELP. SO IN THAT CASE, WHICH WOULD YOU WANT TO BUMP IT BACK OUT TO WHAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN DESIGNED AND GO DOWN TO ONE, OR WOULD YOU WANT US TO? I THINK I MEAN, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WILY RESIDENTS, ARE GREAT DRIVERS, VERY COURTEOUS, VERY PATIENT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO WILY THAT ARE LIKE WHAT I SEE IN MOST OF THE METROPLEX, WHICH IS A COMPLETE OPPOSITE. SO I'M I'M STILL INCLINED TO GO WITH TWO LANES FOR THAT REASON. OKAY. BUT BUT, BUT I THINK OUR RESIDENTS ARE GREAT. JUST WORRY ABOUT OUR VISITORS. COUNCILMAN DUKE LOOKS LIKE IT'S WELL, WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT IT'S KIND OF UP TO YOU. SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ALLEYS IN ONE LANE OR TWO? NO PRESSURE. I'M NOT A FAN OF EXPLORING THE ALLEYS. I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO, OKAY.
BUT I'M REALLY NOT A FAN OF IT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF SCOPE CREEP AND THAT'S GETTING OUT OF THE SCOPE. BUT, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH, COUNCILMAN STRING ON THE TWO WAY STREETS. I SEE BOTH ARGUMENTS HERE, BUT I JUST I THINK WE'LL BE BITING OURSELVES IF WE GO WITH ONE LANE STREET. SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH TWO LANES. OKAY. WELL, THAT PUTS US IN AN INTERESTING SPOT BECAUSE WE HAVE MAJORITY TWO LANES AND MAJORITY ALLEYS, WHICH KIND OF ARE OPPOSITES. SO. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I DON'T KNOW THAT HE PUTS US ON A BIND, MAKING TWO,
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TWO, LANES. SAME DIRECTIONS AND MAKING THE ALLEY. MAKING TWO LANES. IT ALLOWS US TO DO THE PARALLEL PARKING AND NOT STOP THE TRAFFIC WHILE THE ALLEYS ALLOW US FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE DOWNTOWN WITH LIGHTS AND TREES. SO WHICH I THINK IS THE NUMBER ONE FEATURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO REJUVENATE DOWNTOWN, WHERE IT'S MORE WALKABLE, IT FEELS MORE LIGHTING, IT FEELS MORE GOING OUT AND BE ABLE TO WALK WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND STAY OUT LATER. AND WHAT THAT WHAT THAT BRINGS TO THE TABLE. SO I THINK BOTH CAN BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. NOW, I GRANTED, THERE IS GOING TO BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THAT, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR BOTH OF THOSE THINGS TO BE ACHIEVED. I'LL JUST SAY IF WE DO, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO LANES, I DON'T SUPPORT ALLEYS. IN THAT CASE, I DON'T IT TAKES 35% OF THE PEDESTRIAN AREA AWAY FROM THE DESIGN THAT THAT COUNCIL AND STAKEHOLDERS ALL CAME TOGETHER TO CREATE. WHEN WE SAT DOWN, WE TALKED ABOUT 20 PLUS FOOT SIDEWALKS, AREAS SO YOU COULD HAVE OUTDOOR TABLES, HAVE ROOM FOR TREES TO GROW, GARDENS, YOU KNOW, GREENERY AREAS. IF THAT SHRINKS TO 16FT.WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT AN OUTDOOR TABLE FOR FOUR TAKES TO HAVE CHAIRS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT TABLES, TREES, BENCHES AND ALL THOSE THINGS IN THOSE SAME AREAS BECAUSE THERE'S JUST YOU'RE CUTTING OFF A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF BEING ABLE TO WALK BY IT. NOW, IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ESSENTIALLY BUMP THE SIDEWALKS OUT FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW AND ESSENTIALLY JUST CHANGE TO PARALLEL PARKING, BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT IS CHANGING FROM HEAD END TO PARALLEL PARKING AND JUST BOTH LANES THE SAME WAY. AND SO FOR ME, I CAN'T SEE MAKING THAT KIND OF AN INVESTMENT. IN IT AND THEN DOUBLING DOWN WITH THE ALLEYWAYS, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE AT THAT POINT WITH THE ALLEYS TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST. AND I UNDERSTAND THE LIGHTS AND THE TREES. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SHOWED, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE ON 68, YOU KNOW, THEY TALKED, IT SHOWED ON THERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ONE WAY TRAFFIC ON BIRMINGHAM, THE TWO LANES ON, JACKSON. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THEY DESIGNED THOSE FROM AN ARCHITECT , EVEN A VERY BASIC ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING SIDEWALK. THEY'RE NOT SHOWING TABLES AND TREES AND THINGS ON A 14 FOOT SIDEWALK. THEY'RE SHOWING THAT A FAMILY OF FOUR CAN COMFORTABLY NAVIGATE DOWN IT, STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER. AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT KIND OF A DRASTIC CHANGE, I GET IT, BUT I CAN'T. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND PAYING FOR THE ALLEYWAYS. AND THEN KEEPING A 26 FOOT DRIVE LANE, DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO, MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO SLIDE NUMBER 76, WHERE THE PICTURES OF MCKINNEY, TEXAS, SHOWED AN 18 FOOT SIDEWALK WITH BUMP OUTS IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANTS ON BOTH SIDES, GIVING ROOM FOR DINERS OR WHOMEVER ELSE INSIDE A FENCED IN AREA. AND THEN IT ALLOWS ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE TRASH CANS THAT ARE STUCK TO THAT POLE UP IN FRONT IF YOU TOOK THAT OUT. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CORNER OF THAT FENCE, AND THE TRASH CAN WOULD BE WALKABILITY, AND YOU'D STILL HAVE A BUMP OUT AREA FOR TABLES AND SEATING. THAT'S IT. YEAH, BECAUSE I ASSUME THE TRASH CANS ARE ABOUT THE TWO FEET THAT THIS WOULD BE SHORTER THAN THEIRS. SO COUNCILMAN MALIKI. OR REDESIGNED THE WHOLE THING AND TAKE OUT THE PARALLEL PARKING FROM THE MAIN ROAD. THE PARALLEL PARKING WAS THE REQUEST OF DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
YOU'RE SAVING IN THAT BETWEEN OAK AND MARBLE, YOU'RE SAVING TEN PARKING SPOTS, AND YOU CAN CREATE ALL THE WALKABILITY, ALL THE SEATING, ALL THE BEAUTIFICATION, THE TREES. BUT YOU HAVE TO USE THE ALLEY, WHICH IS A BIGGER PROJECT. JUST I THOUGHT EARLIER. MR. PARKER, WHAT IF WE JUST CLOSE BALLARD BETWEEN OAK AND MARBLE AND USE THE ALLEYS OR FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT ROUTE? IT'S JUST A THOUGHT, COUNCILMAN MALIKI. IT'S YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T SITTING ON THE DICE WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED, BUT IT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. THIS IS HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IT WHERE YOU SIT OUTSIDE AND DO THAT, THERE IS
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SOME DOWNTOWNS THAT ARE CLOSED LIKE THAT. YEAH. COUNCILMAN STRANG YES. SO I HAVE TO ADMIT, EVEN I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD EVEN JUST CLOSE IT OFF AND JUST MAKE IT.WE HAVE SOME REAL CONSTRAINTS DOWNTOWN, JUST WITH THE WAY SOME OF THE PROPERTIES ARE AND ALL THAT, THERE'S NO. I THINK WE ALL REALIZE HERE THERE'S NO EASY ANSWERS, AND EVEN I'M PRETTY SURE I VOTED AGAINST THE PARALLEL PARKING BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT, WHAT IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER MAYBE JUST DOING PARALLEL PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF BALLARD AND NOT BOTH? IS THAT POTENTIALLY NOT? HOW MANY PARKING SPACES WOULD WE LOSE IF WE DID THAT? TEN OR SO? FIVE, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE. OKAY. JUST FOR THAT ONE BLOCK, I, I HAVE TO FEEL LIKE THAT'S NOT A BAD COMPROMISE. YOU LOSE 5 OR 6 PARKING SPACES, BUT YOU GET YOU GET MORE SPACE TO WORK WITH TO HAVE THE DRIVE LANES YOU NEED. I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT ON 76 THERE, THE UPPER RIGHT PICTURE AT MCKINNEY, RIGHT AT DOWNTOWN WITH THE CRISS CROSS LIGHTING. IT LOOKS LIKE THE RIGHT HAND SIDE PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE PARALLEL PARKING. IT LOOKS LIKE TWO DRIVE LANES OF PARALLEL PARKING ONLY ON THE LEFT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BOTH GO IN THE SAME DIRECTION. I DON'T GO UP THERE, BUT, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE.
COUNCILMAN DUKE, I'M SORRY I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMAN STRING ECHO HIS COMMENTS. SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF RESET EVERYTHING TO ALMOST SQUARE ONE, TO BE HONEST, WITH EVERYONE, THERE SEEMS TO BE 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON HOW TO LAY IT OUT, HOW TO SET IT UP NOW THAT THERE ARE NEW CONSTRAINTS PLACED ON IT, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS HERE. THIS EVENING, OR ANY OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHO OWN PROPERTIES IN THE AREA WHO WERE HERE WHEN WE BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD THE HEATHS, MR. MEYER, AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND OTHERS, WHO WERE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WERE ALL HERE WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, AND SPOKE TO WHETHER IT WAS PARALLEL PARKING, OUTDOOR SPACE, WHATEVER. AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY CHANGING PARKING. WE GET SOME THAT WANT ONE LANE OF PARALLEL. WE'VE GOT SOME THAT WANT HEAD IN, SOME THAT WANT NO PAIR. WELL, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE MAY WANT TO TRY TO COME BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE ON THIS AND INVITE SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO COME IN. IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY START RETHINKING THE DESIGN. SO THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AT THE LAST MEETING AND WE DIDN'T HAVE. I GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF THEM AFTERWARDS. SO YEAH, SO I IT DIDN'T COME UP AT THE MEETING, BUT YEAH, I'M WILLING TO DO WHATEVER. WELL WE ALSO DID I KNOW AT THE MEETING WE PRESENTED, BUT NOW WE I'M SAYING NOW WE GET PEOPLE SAYING, TAKE OUT ONE SIDE OF PARALLEL PARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WASN'T A DISCUSSION POINT AT THEM. I KNOW I MISSED THE MEETING, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE SUGGESTED CUTTING BECAUSE THE COUNCILMAN STRANG AND COUNCILMAN DUKE ARE DISCUSSING TAKING PARALLEL PARKING ON BALLARD AND ONLY MAKING PARALLEL ON ONE SIDE. SIMILAR TO THE PICTURE THAT'S THERE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT JANINE WAS LETTING ME KNOW. I MEAN, WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS. OKAY. AND WHAT ARE THEY? THEY FEEL LIKE THAT IF YOU TAKE IT OUT ON ONE SIDE, IT'S GOING TO FAVOR THE OTHER SIDE. YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM SO JUST MY FEELINGS ON THIS ISSUE IS WE ARE WE HAVE TAKEN A WORK SESSION THAT WAS ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF TWO STREETS AND TURNED IT INTO A REWRITE, DISCOUNTING EVERYTHING AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY AN ENTIRE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP. AND I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I THINK THE REASON WE PUT THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP TOGETHER WAS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A PROJECT AND PRESENT THAT PROJECT IN TOTALITY, BACK TO THE COUNCIL. AND SO I THINK THAT BY, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE PERSON CALLED YOU AND COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. THE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING IS MADE UP OF MORE THAN ONE PERSON. IT'S MADE UP OF AN ENTIRE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS FOR THE ENTIRE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND I REALIZE THAT THAT PERSON HAS A BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, AND THIS AFFECTS THEIR BUSINESS AND THEIR LIVELIHOOD. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE WERE AT THE MEETINGS AND HAVE MADE EVERY MEETING AND THEIR INPUTS ARE ARE
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EQUALLY AS VALUABLE, VALUABLE IN MY MIND'S EYE. AND I THINK BY TRYING TO REWRITE THIS ON THE FLY THAT WE'RE DISCOUNTING THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THAT ENTIRE PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE SO FAR.THAT'S MY $0.02. SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. WAS THERE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ALLEYWAYS AS AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY DURING THAT MEETING? NO. OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD THAT HAD COME UP AND BEEN PRESENTED AS A THIRD OPTION, SO TO SPEAK, TO, TO STICK TO WHAT? STICK CLOSER TO WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO AND APPROVED AS A COUNCIL. SO COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE NOW, AFTER HEARING THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S ONLY REALLY ONE OPTION ON ON BOTH TO, TO CONSIDER FOR THIS TO WORK AND THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE NOT GOING TO WORK. THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE . SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, SO. AND I AGAIN. TO MAYOR PRO TEM'S CREDIT, I DON'T WANT TO DERAIL THINGS. THAT'S NOT MY INTENT BY ANY MEANS. AT THE SAME IN THE SAME CONTEXT. I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND JUST COME BACK AND LOOK BACK AND BE LIKE, HEY, WE SHOULD HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST SCRATCHED IT. WHEN I LOOK AT IT AND GO LOOK AT IT. OKAY. WELL, WE SPENT $150,000 FOR THE STUDIES. WE ENDED UP BRINGING ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ROUNDS AND DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS AND DIFFERENT PARKING OPPORTUNITIES AND NOW WHAT WE'VE GOT IS THOSE MEASUREMENTS ARE NOT RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE FIRE LANE. IT'S ALSO THE ACTUAL AVAILABLE SPACE. THE THING I'M NOT SURE.
AND THAT WE MIGHT JUST HAVE TO LEAN ON YOU, AS YOU KNOW, IS THERE JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S NOT SOMETHING BIGGER WE'RE MISSING OR THAT THAT ENGINEER MISSED OR THAT GROUP MISSED THAT? MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW GROUP NEEDS TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT THEY LOOKED AT BEYOND JUST THE FIRE LANE TO SAY, IS THERE SOMETHING BIGGER? IS THERE A BIGGER PICTURE THAT WE'RE MISSING? IS THERE IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENTLY? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK BACK AT, I PULLED BACK THE MEETINGS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. AND AGAIN, I MEAN, THIS WAS IN WE WENT A LOT OF ROUNDS AND A LOT OF TIME OVER AND OVER AND OVER ON, YOU KNOW, SIX OPTIONS THAT HAVE THREE OPTIONS EACH. SO WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES THERE, AND 2 TO 4FT IS A BIG VARIABLE THAT CHANGES A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER VARIABLES. SO IF IT'S JUST 1 OR 2 DECISIONS AND THEN THAT HEY THAT KICKS THAT MAKES IT GO FORWARD AND OKAY THEN GREAT. BUT WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS SAY, HERE'S THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IN US, MISS THE BIGGER THING. AND THAT IS, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS STUDY THAT WE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY ON TO GET THESE ANSWERS SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN THIS SITUATION AND WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO SECOND GUESS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S WITH IT, OR AT LEAST DOUBLE CHECK IT, BECAUSE THAT'S MY FEELING IS, WELL, DO WE DID WE LOOK DEEP ENOUGH AT THE LIGHTING? THAT'S DOWNTOWN. DID WE LOOK DEEP ENOUGH AT, YOU KNOW , THE FIRE CODE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WALKABILITY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE DINING DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE WALKABILITY? IS THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED? THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY RULES , THE LIKE? HOW DEEP DO WE NEED TO LOOK BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS DECISION, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TO TURN NOW RATHER THAN LATER. SO I THINK SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION. BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN AND NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO CREATE AN ISSUE HERE.
I JUST AM TRYING TO FORECAST ONE. YES. AND WE'RE HAVING ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN ENGINEER. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HANDICAP TDLR YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A YEAH. BUT WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE IT'S GOT TO BE PHASED. SO THIS IS ONLY PHASE ONE. SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, JUST THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO JUST TO, JUST TO OPEN THE ROAD UP TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GET INTO MORE DETAILS AFTER THAT. BUT SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN COME IS HAT IN HAND AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DIDN'T CALCULATE THE FIRE LANE WIDTH AND WHETHER THAT'S ME OR WHETHER THAT'S THE LAST ENGINEER, I CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME AND FIX THAT. I JUST I DON'T THINK I PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING BACK THREE STEPS, YOU KNOW, JUST, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, YOU KNOW, A NEW IDEA, A DIFFERENT IDEA, WHATEVER THE RECOMMENDATION IS, WE DIDN'T GET FURTHER, YOU KNOW, INTO THE DESIGN BEFORE WE NEEDED TO DO THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE COME BACK TO THIS ONE WAY
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OR THE OTHER. SO, YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE CAN AVOID GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ENGINEER AND REDOING ALL OF THAT, WHICH WERE A LOT OF NUMBERS BASED ON TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION AND LEFT TURNS AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC PART FIGURED OUT, MOVE FORWARD WITH HOW DO WE MAKE IT WORK? THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT. AND I'VE ALREADY SENT OUR DESIGN ENGINEER LIKE COUNTLESS, STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT. SO YEAH. SO WE DON'T MISS ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. SO I KNOW COUNCILMAN MALIKI, YOU HAS SOMETHING TO SAY. I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE FIRST, FIRST COMMENTS THAT WE HAD FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM WHEN HE SPOKE UP. AND NOT NOT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH HIS STATEMENT, BUT TO THE POINT OF COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, TO YOUR POINT, WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS AND SIX FIGURES GOING THROUGH TRAFFIC STUDIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, ASSUMING WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN SET UP FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA ON WIDTHS, ACCESSIBILITY, IT WAS GOING TO CHANNEL TRAFFIC. THE WHOLE GOAL WAS TO TRY TO MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN PEOPLE FRIENDLY, AND TO MAKE IT DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC, GETTING PLACES NON-FRIENDLY. THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE DOWNTOWN A DESTINATION TO GO, STAY AND WALK AND TO END IT BEING JUST A CUT THROUGH THAT A FEW PEOPLE PULL OFF AND GO TO BUSINESSES. WE SPENT A LONG TIME. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, I THINK 18 DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF GOAL OF LOOKS THAT WE DID AT IT AGAIN BIRMINGHAM. I DON'T LOSE SLEEP OVER FOR ME IT'S A CONSISTENCY THING. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT BALLARD AND WE HAVE AN OPTION AS MAYOR PRO TEM, WHEN HE FIRST SPOKE, SAID NOW DO ONE LANE OR DO ONE LANE AND DO ALLEYWAYS. IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY KEEPING THE SAME PROJECT. NOW WE'RE HAVING TO FIX IT BY BY LOOKING AT THE ALLEYWAYS, BUT WE'RE KEEPING THE SAME PLAN. IT MAY NOT BE QUITE AS WIDE, BUT ESSENTIALLY BALLARD STREET WILL BE THE SAME PLAN THAT WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS GOING THROUGH THAT WE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR, AND BIRMINGHAM WILL STILL BE UTILIZING THE SAME TRAFFIC STUDIES OF A ONE LANE ALIGNMENT AND THE PARKING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. ALL THAT TIME AND MONEY THAT WE SPENT BY LOOKING AT THE ALLEYWAYS AS THE SOLUTION FOR A PROBLEM THAT CAME UP. IT KEEPS THE ORIGINAL PLAN ESSENTIALLY IN PLACE. AND I, FOR ME, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST A MAJOR DEPARTURE AND A REWRITE. WHEN WE HAVE AN OPTION THAT ELIMINATES THAT. AND BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO LET COUNCILMAN MALIKI SPEAK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO REBUT. I MEAN, I'M NOT ARGUING WITH Y'ALL. OH, NO, I'M NOT I'M NOT TAKING I'M JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO SPEAK TO MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL. AND JUST I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE LOOKING AT ON COST. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN LET YOU ALL COME UP WITH SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK BECAUSE IT'S A POINT OF DISCUSSION, I THINK WE'RE NOW GOING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT REALLY EVEN WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE'RE GOING WITHOUT SEEING HOW FEASIBLE. EVEN WITH DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND THE DOWNTOWN OR THE STAKEHOLDERS , WITHOUT ASKING HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT DOING THE ALLEYWAY. SO I THINK THE FIRST POINT OF FIRST DIRECTION THAT I'D SUGGEST IS THAT WE GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT IF THE ALLEYWAYS IS EVEN FEASIBLE BEFORE WE EVEN DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAN GIVE A DIRECTION IF IT'S A ONE, IF IT'S ONE WAY, SAME DIRECTION OR TWO ROADS, SAME DIRECTION. BEFORE WE DECIDE FOR ME, THE BEAUTIFICATION, THE WALKABILITY, IT'S NOT THE SAME IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BEAUTIFICATION OF IT, IF IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPACE. SO I THINK FOR ME, AND THAT'S MY LAST THING TONIGHT, IS WE ALLOW THEM TO GO BACK TO STAKEHOLDERS WITH SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT, COME BACK TO US WITH ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BEFORE WE SPEND ANY MORE MONEY, ANY MORE TIME AND ANY MORE EFFORT ON ANYBODY'S, ANYBODY. SO THAT'S MY DIRECTION. AND I'LL JUST SAY I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, WE'RE KIND OF AT A LOGGERHEAD AS A GROUP. I THINK IT WOULD HELP IF WE KNEW IF THAT WAS EVEN REALLY A FEASIBLE OPTION. COUNCILMAN STRANG YEAH, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MALIKI.AND PARTICULARLY SINCE IT WASN'T DISCUSSED WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THE ALLEY OPTIONS, IT WOULD BE REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THEIR OPINIONS ARE ON THAT. SURE, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. AND IT WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT THEM TO. AND I'LL JUST ADD THE LAST PART. I WOULD URGE THE NEXT DISCUSSION TO HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS, SOME OF THE CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SEE AND HOW THEY WANT TO SEE
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DOWNTOWN TO COME AND SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF TO OUR COUNCIL AND LET US KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. OKAY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE AT THIS POINT, MAYBE THE BEST, BEST NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO LOOK AT THE ALLEYWAYS, DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY FROM A WIDTH STANDPOINT AND THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE IN THE AREA. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUPPORTED. OKAY, SURE, SURE. GO AHEAD. I'VE GOT ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT HIT ME. AND JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE ON A FIRE LANE TO GET IT IN THE FORM OF AN EASEMENT RATHER THAN, WHATEVER YOU WOULD CALL IT, GRANT LAND OR WHATNOT, AN ACQUISITION RATHER THAN AN ACQUISITION, CAN IT COULD IT BE JUST AN EASEMENT? SURE. YES. YEAH BECAUSE WE DO WE DO FIRE LINE EASEMENT. THAT WOULD BE A WIN WIN. BECAUSE WHAT I FORESEE FOR THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS AND PEOPLE OR PEOPLE THAT OWN THAT PROPERTY IS IF THEY HAD TO DO AN ACQUISITION, THEN THEY WOULD LOSE SOME OF THEIR VALUE. THAT IS SO. BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO AN EASEMENT, THAT MIGHT BE THE WIN WIN FOR THEM TO WHERE, HEY, THEY GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING BEAUTIFICATION AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR PARKING ANYWAY. SO IT'S GOING TO END UP, YOU KNOW, BEING YOU KNOW, AN EASEMENT WOULD END UP WORKING IN THAT. YES NOT LIKE WE'RE PARKING SPOTS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON IT KIND OF DEAL. OKAY SO UNLESS UNLESS I'M UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL INCORRECTLY AND IF I AM PLEASE BUZZ IN AND LET ME KNOW. NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO. THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF THE ALLEYWAYS, INCLUDING STAKEHOLDERS, EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS, MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS OUT AND THEN COME BACK AFTER WE KNOW THAT, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, YES, THIS IS AN OPTION OR NO AND OR NO. EVERYONE HATES IT OR IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU FINAL DIRECTION. WOULD THAT WORK? SURE. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. AND WE'LL HAVE WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE'VE HAD AT THE OTHER MEETINGS TO WE CALL ANOTHER MEETING OF IT OR DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED THE IDEA WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE YOU WANT IT. YOU DON'T YOU WANT TO KEEP THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE MEETING TO I WOULD SAY CALL ANOTHER MEETING OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AND LET EVERYBODY WEIGH IN ON THAT ADDITIONAL OPTION. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN DO SOME EYE IN THE SKY MEASUREMENTS ON AS FAR AS FEASIBILITY. I MEAN, YEAH, I CAN GET YOU ALL NUMBERS AND WE CAN PRESENT THAT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL THAT'S GOING TO COME IN A FUTURE DATE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO FUNDING NOW. FOR NOW, THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR ANY OF THIS RIGHT NOW. YEAH EXCEPT FOR THIS PHASE ONE. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. SO OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME. THANK
[WS3. Discuss the future format for City Council and Board and Commission Meeting Minutes]
YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. SO I APPRECIATE IT OKAY. SO WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO WORK SESSION THREE WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE FORMAT FOR CITY COUNCIL AND BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES, THIS STORM IS COMING DOWN FRONT. YEAH AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO JEFF. WE GOT IN TROUBLE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M COMING BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO PROPOSE THAT WE ALTER OR CHANGE THE FORMAT FOR OUR FUTURE MEETING MINUTES, CURRENTLY, WE ALL ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE DO PRETTY DETAILED DISCUSSION, AND NOW THAT WE TELEVISE AND LIVE STREAM AND HAVE ALL OF OUR MEETINGS ON DEMAND, AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE THEM ON DEMAND INDEFINITELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE EVER REACH A TIME THAT FOR SPACE OR NOT. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE INDEFINITELY. WE ALSO DO KEEP AUDIO RECORDINGS OF OUR MEETINGS 90 DAYS AFTER THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED, AND FOR CITY COUNCIL, WE KEEP ALL OF OUR AGENDA PACKETS PERMANENTLY. NOW THOSE ONLY HAVE TO BE KEPT 90 DAYS AS WELL, OR TWO YEARS.SORRY, BUT WE HAVE CHOSEN SINCE THE EARLY TO MID 80S TO KEEP THEM PERMANENTLY, AND WE DO USE THOSE AS A RESEARCH TOOL A LOT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER US MOVING TO ACTION ITEMS. I DID LOOK AT ALL THE SURROUNDING CITIES AND OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS AROUND OUR POPULATION, AND MOST DO ACTION ITEM ONLY. SO IT'S WHO MADE THE MOTION, WHO MADE THE SECOND THE VOTE THAT WAS CAST FOR WORK SESSIONS. IT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN BY COUNCIL, BUT NOT THE DETAILED PARAGRAPHS OF THE BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED. IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT, MY REQUEST WOULD BE FOR COUNCIL AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS BECAUSE THEY TRY TO MIRROR HOW COUNCIL CONDUCTS OUR BUSINESS. AND WE COULD I WOULD PROPOSE, START JULY 1ST WITH THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS COMING IN THAT THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD STARTING POINT,
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WITH WITH THE STARTING OF THE NEW SEASON, BASICALLY. OKAY THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON THAT IS DO WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE HEARING IMPAIRED? SO I KNOW WHO CAN READ, BUT CAN'T NECESSARILY LISTEN TO A PLAYBACK. SO THE ON DEMAND RIGHT NOW ON OUR WEBSITE THERE'S A TAB ON THE FAR RIGHT THAT'S A TRANSCRIPT OKAY. AND SO IT ACTUALLY IF YOU GO ON THERE IT'S SEARCHABLE. AND THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLICK ON THE WORD. AND IF YOU CLICK ON THAT WORD IT SKIPS THE VIDEO TO THAT POINT. BUT THERE IS A TRANSCRIPT ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW I JUST HAVEN'T UTILIZED THAT FEATURE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN OPTION FOR ANYONE THAT THAT MIGHT NEED IT. SO WITH THAT BEING IN PLACE, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. COUNCILMAN MALIKI, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT. OKAY, I'LL GO TO MAYOR PRO TEM, NO ISSUES. COUNCILMAN DUKE, NO ISSUES. COUNCILMAN STRANG. YEAH, I JUST CHECKED THIS TRANSCRIPT THING. IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL. SO NO ISSUES. COUNCILMAN HOOVER. NO ISSUES. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AND I'VE USED THAT BEFORE. IT'S PRETTY AWESOME. NO ISSUES. PERFECT. AWESOME. SO THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT . THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR WORK SESSIONS THIS EVENING. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. SO WE WILL THEN MOVE, MISS STORM, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY ORDINANCES TO READ THIS EVENING. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT, THAT DOES COMPLETE OUR AGENDA. SO I'D BE OPEN TO A MOTION TO ADJOURN.COUNCILMAN STRANG, THANK YOU, MAYOR, I MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS I'LL SECOND IT. MOTION WITH THE SECOND TO ADJOURN. COUNCIL CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE'RE ADJOURNED. OKAY YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.