[Public Arts Advisory Board on June 20, 2024.]
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          TODAY. TODAY IS JUNE 20TH, 2024. THE TIME IS 6:08 P.M. I'M CALLING THE WYLIE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER, CAROL, WOULD YOU TAKE ROLL? ESTHER, YOU PRESENT ANITA. 
          PRESENT. GLORIA. HERE CASSIE. HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. SINCE THERE ARE NO PERSONS PRESENT WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD UNDER THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS SECTION, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND GO INTO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. TODAY'S FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM IS UPDATE AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WALKING TRAILS ART. PHASE TWO YOSHI STONE. BEFORE WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE JULIE PARNELL. SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION HAS DECIDED THAT AFTER DECEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO TURN THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM OVER TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO SHE WILL BE TAKING MY PLACE AS OF JANUARY 1ST. I GUESS SO. 
          WELCOME. THANK YOU. HI. YEAH. HI I'M EXCITED, THERE ALSO BEEN SO GRACIOUS AND JUST REALLY. AND I KNOW SHE WANTS ME TO SUCCEED. SO SHE'S TEACHING ME EVERY EVERYTHING SHE CAN. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, I KNOW, I KNOW. WILL YOU TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF? YEAH. SO I'M. DO Y'ALL WANT ME TO TALK INTO MICROPHONES? I AM A THE ONE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION SUPERVISORS AND I STARTED AT THE SENIOR REC CENTER 15 YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE BART PEDDYCORD COMMUNITY CENTER THEN, AND I WAS PART TIME, AND I WAS FINISHING UP MY COLLEGE DEGREE, AND THEN I WENT FULL TIME IN. 
          OH, MY GOSH, I DON'T KNOW, 8 OR 9 YEARS AGO, I WENT FULL TIME AT THE AT THE SENIOR REC CENTER. 
          AND THEN THE CITY PURCHASED THE BROWN HOUSE, AND THEY WANTED ME TO GO TO THE BROWN HOUSE AND SUPERVISE OVER THERE. AND SO I LEFT AND WENT TO THE BROWN HOUSE. AND I HAD HAVE BEEN AT THE BROWN HOUSE, EVER SINCE 2015, AND NOW I AM UP AT THE PARKS AND REC ADMIN BUILDING, AND I'M, I'M DOING MORE OF LIKE A MARKETING AND SPECIAL EVENT TYPE ROLE FOR THE CITY, I'M STILL HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE BROWN HOUSE AND DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS, ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS, I HAVE AN ART DEGREE. I LOVE ART, AND I SERVED ON, THE WHAT WAS THAT CALLED? THE OH, THE SELECTION, THE SELECTION PANEL. FOR YOSHI. AND THAT WAS A REALLY FUN EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S IT. GOT TWO KIDS, A FIVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND A SEVEN AND A HALF YEAR OLD SON. AND I'M ALWAYS TIRED. BUT I JUST DRINK A LOT OF COFFEE AND KEEP GOING. KEEP MOVING. YEAH. SO YOU FINISHED? NICE TO MEET EVERYONE. NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU. AND I KNOW KASEY A LITTLE BIT. HER HUSBAND'S ON THE PARK AND REC BOARD, AND I KNOW GLORIA A LITTLE BIT. OR A LOT. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. YEAH, I'VE KNOWN JULIE, GOSH, FIVE YEARS AT LEAST. AT LEAST. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S REALLY VERY ACTIVE AND SHE'S LIGHT HEARTED AND SHE'S SO EASY TO WORK WITH AND, YOU KNOW, SO I WISH YOU A, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SUCCESS. AND THANK YOU, GLORIA. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY, INDEED MY FIRST YEAR ON THE BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S I'VE HAD FUN WITH IT, AND I'VE BEEN REAPPOINTED FOR TWO YEARS. SO, SO GLAD TO BE AROUND. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY WELL, WE'LL WISH YOU THE BEST. YEAH. OKAY SO, YOSHI GOT HIS PERMIT, WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT AND IT HAS BEEN APPROVED. NOW, IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH PHASES AS HE, 
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BUILDS HIS MOUNDS AND INSTALLS HIS ART AND THE LIGHTING GOES IN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. BUT HIS MILESTONE WAS JUST TO GET THE A PERMIT ITSELF APPROVED AND BOTH PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT HAVE APPROVED IT. SO WE ARE MAILING HIM HIS THIRD MILESTONE, WHICH IS $15,000, AND HE HAS ALREADY PURCHASED OUT ALL OF THE STONE FOR BOTH PIECES, HE SAID THAT THE ONE FOR SACRED FIRE HAD COME BACK TOO SMALL, SO WE HAD TO REORDER IT. BUT HE'S READY TO START SCULPTING, SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING VERY SOON. AS FAR AS PHOTOS, TO SEE WHAT HE'S DONE SO FAR. OUR SECOND DISCUSSION ITEM IS DISCUSSION REGARDING WALKING TRAILS ART PHASE THREE. 
          SONNY BEING BEING. OKAY, SO IF YOU WILL PULL FROM YOUR EXTRA ATTACHMENTS THAT YOU WERE GIVEN, I'LL GO BACK AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S TRANSPIRED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. TESS, WHO WORKS WITH SONNY, EMAILED ME AND SAID THAT THEY VERY MUCH WANTED TO DO ONE OF THE ART PIECES, AND HIS IDEA WAS THAT THE TWO ART PIECES TOGETHER WERE GOING TO BE BUDGETED AT 80,000. SO HE WAS THINKING THAT IF HE DID ONE, HE HAD TO STAY WITHIN 40,000. SO HE SAID AT THAT BUDGET IT WAS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET. BUT HE AND FOR THAT REASON, HE ONLY WANTED TO DO THE DEER. HE HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE, NATIVE AMERICAN. SO I HAVE SPOKEN TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, SHARP EDGES ON THE PIECE ITSELF FOR CHILDREN, SO I HAD TALKED TO TESS ABOUT SEEING HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO GO AHEAD AND DO ONE THAT PRETTY MUCH WAS SOLID, LIKE A REGULAR BRONZE IS, AND SONNY IS AVAILABLE SO WE CAN CALL HIM AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO OR WE CAN STAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE DESIGN AND THAT IS NOW $44,715. AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING. SO IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. HE HAS HE HAS GUARANTEED THAT, DOING IT WITH THE ALMOST LIKE A BRONZE RELIEF LIKE YOU SEE IN THIS ONE, HE WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE EDGES ROUNDED SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. BUT I KNOW THERE WAS, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, SO I'M JUST LOOKED INTO IT. I THINK IT WAS THE BOTTOM PIECES AND THE ARROWS. 
          MAYBE. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WERE SAYING WAS THE. YEAH, I THINK PRIMARY CONCERN. YEAH I THINK IT WAS THOSE BOTTOM PIECES, BUT ALSO THE PIECES THAT KIND OF STICK OUT FROM THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT KIDS CUTTING THEMSELVES ON IT, BUT ALSO HOW LIKE IF A KID LEANS ON IT, IS IT GOING TO BREAK OFF? IS IT GOING, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW FRAGILE ARE THOSE PIECES? LIKE THEY HAVE TO WITHSTAND KIDS BEING UNSUPERVISED WITH THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT, OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL SO WE ASSUMING LET'S SAY WE AGREE WE'RE OKAY TO GIVE THEM 4000 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, I REALLY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO COME BACK CLOSER TO 60, TO BE HONEST. AND SO NOW, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR HIM TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, FORGET ABOUT THIS. I WILL MAKE THIS A SOLID, JUST MORE TYPICAL, I THINK. YEAH I THINK MORE OR LESS JUST ASK HIM IF HE COULD GIVE US AN ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO DO IT AS A SOLID BRONZE, DID HE KIND OF SAY THAT'S GOING TO BE WORKABLE OR. WELL, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE ASK. OH, YOU HAVEN'T ASKED HIM YET. NO, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO CALL HIM ABOUT. IF YOU ALL WANTED TO TAKE THAT PREFERENCE RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU WANT TO ASK SOME 
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QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS HOW STABLE THEY ARE, WE CAN ASK THAT TOO. I THINK THAT, I SAID THIS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS REALLY NICE AND WONDERFUL. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PIECE. BUT I THINK SOMETHING MORE TRADITIONAL, WOULD AT LEAST HAVE THE APPEARANCE THAT IT THAT IT WOULD LAST AND IT WOULDN'T BE DANGEROUS. AND I THINK THIS PIECE, AS PRETTY AS IT IS, I CAN SEE KIDS HURTING THEMSELVES, SOMEBODY HURTING THEMSELVES. YEAH, I CAN JUST SEE THAT. IT'S JUST THE WAY. I MEAN, IT'S. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO SOMEHOW. GATE IT, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING AROUND IT TO PREVENT IT FROM EASILY BEING CLIMBED ON AND MESSED WITH? YEAH, WE ALWAYS PUT SIGNS OUT, BUT YOU KNOW HOW MUCH GOOD THAT DOES. YEAH, BUT MORE THAN A SIGN. LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CLIMBED OVER. I MEAN, NOT HIGH, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD MAKE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT LESS EASY FOR KIDS TO JUST, YOU KNOW, GO JUMPING ON IT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO, IS IF WE DID IT WHERE IT WASN'T RELIEF LIKE THIS, WHAT WOULD THAT COST LOOK LIKE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO ASK HIM . YEAH, YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. AND I THINK AT LEAST JUST FROM MY TEACHER PERSPECTIVE, THAT WE WANT IT TO BE INTERACTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE KIDS. AND IF THEY HAVE TO BE AWAY FROM IT WITH THE BARRICADE, YOU KNOW, OF SOME SORT LIKE THAT ALMOST TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE ENJOYMENT OF IT. YOU KNOW. SO I, I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE SOLID PIECE AS WELL, THE OTHER THING THAT SHE MENTIONED WAS THAT THEY HAD GONE OUT TO A NUMBER OF FOUNDRIES IN THE UNITED STATES TO TRY AND LOWER THE COST FOR THE BRONZING, AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO FIND ANY THAT WOULD WOULD DO THE WORK WITHIN IN THE BUDGET. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE BRONZE CASTING IS $10,015, SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO USE THEIR FOUNDRY IN SOUTH AFRICA, AND THAT IS WHAT THE SHIPPING ON HERE IS FOR. THAT'S THE ONE THAT HE USED FOR HIS LION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AT THE UNITED NATIONS. SO THE 10,000 IS FOR THE BRONZING BEING DONE IN SOUTH AFRICA OR BEING DONE HERE IN SOUTH AFRICA. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S THE SOUTH AFRICAN PRICE. OKAY. WOW. SO WHAT WOULD THE PRICE BE IF IT WERE DONE HERE. IT WAS ENORMOUSLY MORE EXPENSIVE. IS THAT RELATED TO EVERYTHING ELSE BEING MORE EXPENSIVE OR, I MEAN DO WE DO WE HAVE, I WANT TO SAY A QUOTE, WE HAVE PRICING FROM TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS VENTURE STARTED TO COMPARE, WE REALLY DIDN'T WE WEREN'T GIVEN A PRICE. 
          WE WERE GIVEN PROPOSALS THAT HE COULD DO. AND WHEN WE WENT BACK AFTER A BOARD MEETING AND EXPLAINED THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN DOING IT, THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED SEARCHING FOR PRICES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU A PRICE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THEY HAVE TO CHECK FOR ENGINEERING, FOR BRONZING, FOR, THE BASE CONSTRUCTION, FOR LIGHTING AND ALL THESE THINGS TOOK TIME. AND THAT'S WHY THE BUDGET THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET DOESN'T RELATE TO THIS BUDGET, BECAUSE I HAD TO GIVE THEM, INFORMATION FOR THE ENGINEER, THE LIGHTING AND THE CONCRETE. 
          SO THEY'RE USING CONTRACTORS THAT ARE LOCAL HERE FOR THOSE THINGS. AND, AND THEY FINALLY GOT BACK WITH ME AND SAID, YES, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE QUOTING US. SO, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T ENTERED INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH THEM, MUCH LESS A CONTRACT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST DOING SOMETHING THAT THE HOUSE AND, IN JANUARY, THE COST WAS 1900, AND IT'S NOW 2700. 
          YEAH, IT'S STONE. IT'S ASTRONOMICAL. THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP. IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS RIGHT NOW, WELL, BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND GO BACK AND FORTH, THE I KIND OF THINK IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN MORE SO. WELL WE HAVE TO DECIDE. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DECIDE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OR IF WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR A CALL FOR ARTISTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE CAN ALL HE HAS TO DO WITH THIS IS JUST THE BRONZING AND HIS WORK ON THE PIECE. SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET BACK WITH US WITH A COST PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THEN WE NEED TO DO A CALL PRETTY QUICKLY. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE DYER, WHETHER IT'S THE FULL DEER OR IF IT'S THIS, THIS VERSION, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE. I THINK THAT'S 
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KIND OF WHAT I. I REALLY LIKE IT, AND I REALLY LIKE IT IN THE WHITE AND THE GOLD, OR WHITE AND BRONZE. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND FITTING AND GRACEFUL. AND IT'S. 6.5FT HIGH, SO IT'S, IT'S A BIG PIECE. SO IT'S EVERY. AND FOR MYSELF, I PREFER THAT IT BE ONE SOLID PIECE. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE SHOULD TALK TO SONNY AND SEE WHAT THAT COST LOOKS LIKE. I'M NOT CONVINCED IT SHOULD BE ONE SOLID PIECE. I WOULD WANT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE, STRENGTH OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE SMALLER PIECES AND THE, OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO GET BENT OR BROKEN, OR POTENTIALLY IMPALE A CHILD, YOU KNOW? YEAH ESTHER, I'M. I'M WITH GLORIA. I LIKE THE IDEA OF A SOLID PIECE. I LIKE THE IDEA OF KEEPING THIS PIECE THE WHITE, THE GOLD, THE ARROWS. JUST MAYBE MORE SOLID. OKAY SO NOW WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS, SO I'LL TRY AND CALL HIM. 
          HI, CARL. HI, SONNY. HOW ARE YOU? ARE YOU DOWN OFF THE, HEIGHT THAT YOU WERE ON BEFORE, OR CAN YOU TALK? I GOT YOU, FAM. HOW'S IT GOING? IT'S GOING GOOD, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SONNY. IF YOU COULD ANSWER THEM FOR US THE FIRST. SO THE FIRST QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH, THE SAFETY OF THE PIECE AS IT IS WITH ALMOST LIKE A RELIEF. A BRONZE RELIEF, WITH THE ARROWS AND THE LITTLE PIECES THAT ARE COMING OFF OF THE MAIN PIECE, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE EASY TO PULL OFF IF THERE'S CHILDREN AROUND? NO, NO. BUT IF THEY JUMP ON THE ARROWS, THEY COULD BEND THEM. OKAY. THE OTHER THING WE WANTED TO ASK, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T GIVE US A FIGURE, BUT MAYBE JUST AN ESTIMATE IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE DEER AS A FULL BRONZE AND NOT A BRONZE RELIEF, HOW MUCH MORE WOULD THAT BE? APPROXIMATELY YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK I THINK WHAT WHAT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH DOING SOMETHING, MAYBE IT'S WORTHWHILE, LIKE PAYING TO HAVE THE ACTUAL MAQUETTE MADE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WITH THE BRONZE, THE WHOLE BRONZE PROCESS IS SO EXPENSIVE AND ALL THOSE, ALL THE FIGURES ARE ESTIMATES UNTIL THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAVE THE ACTUAL MAQUETTE, YOU KNOW. YES. SO WHAT ME AND TESS WOULD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND, SO WE DISCUSSED IT AND WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT ACTUALLY JUST BE A GOOD IDEA IF YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD, TO MAKE THE MAQUETTE AND, AND PAY FOR THAT. AND WE DO THAT, AND THEN THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL SCULPTURE AND YOU CAN CHANGE ANYTHING, AND THEN I CAN ALSO TAKE IT TO THE, TO THE FOUNDRY AND, AND, GET THE COSTS. THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF OUR SUGGESTION. SO, BUT THE, THE MAQUETTE PRODUCTION IS $3,500. YEAH AND IF THAT WERE NOT TO WORK OUT OR BECAME TOO EXPENSIVE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A MAQUETTE WITHOUT AN ACTUAL SCULPTURE. WELL, THEN WE WOULD. 
          I GUESS WE'D MAYBE HAVE TO CHANGE THE MAQUETTE TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE OR CHANGE THE SIZE OF IT. SO THE FIGURES THAT YOU GAVE US OF THE 44, SEVEN, 15 IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE. I MEAN, THE FOUNDERS CAN ONLY GIVE ESTIMATES , YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN THE BUDGET LIKE IT'S PRETTY 
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MUCH, THERE'S NO BAFFLE FOR ME WITH US. LIKE I'M WON'T BE MAKING, REALLY ANY MONEY ON IT AT. AND, IF IT DOES GO OVER, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF MY POCKET, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M AT WITH US, OKAY. BECAUSE HE'S JUST THE BRONZE, BRONZE SCULPTURES OF THAT SIZE. THERE'S JUST NO WAY AROUND IT. YEAH, JUST A REALLY EXPENSIVE, I MEAN, THEY LAST FOREVER, THAT'S WHY YOU DO THEM, BUT, THEY COST, YOU KNOW. WELL, WELL, WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE BRONZE CASTING AT THE FOUNDRY, I KNOW IT MAY GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS, CASTING IT BOTH THE WAY IT IS AND THE WAY THAT IT WOULD BE IF WE HAD A FULL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF BRONZE IS IN THIS RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT THE PERCENTAGE OF, EXCLUDED AREAS ARE. HE THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHY ALL MY THINKING LEADS TO MAKING THEM A KIT. BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST TOO HARD FOR ANYBODY TO TELL US, YOU KNOW? OKAY, BUT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD IS DEFINED IS A VERY USED TO, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKING THEM IN THE KITS AND THEN GIVING YOU THE BEST IN THE KIT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE DONE THE BEST THEY CAN TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE, SO IT IS THE MAQUETTE MADE FROM JUST A CLAY STRUCTURE OR IS IT BRONZE? YEAH IT'S JUST CLAY. WELL IT MAKES IT MAKES THE CLAY. AND THEN. YEAH, TAKE THAT TO THEM. OKAY, SO THE $3,500 IS FOR A CLAY PRODUCTION. WELL, IT'S. YEAH IT'S FOR ME TO MAKE IT AND DO THAT AND THEN. OKAY, IF, IF THAT WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD, WHAT I'D DO IS I'D GET IT MOLDED. I TAKE OBVIOUSLY, BUT THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL THE PHOTOS OF IT, SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, GET THE CUSTOM STUFF FROM THEM, AND THEN WHEN WE GET, SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH, I CAN THEN HAVE THAT MOLDED AND THEN I'LL MAKE. I'LL MAKE A RESIN, SORT OF A RESIN REPLICA OF IT AND, TRY GET THAT OVER TO YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY DO YOU THINK THAT, WITH A FULL BRONZE, IT WOULD GO OVER 20,000 MORE? I CAN'T IMAGINE IT NOW. ARE YOU SAYING AND I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO, NO. OKAY. ARE YOU SAYING IF WE. IF WE DON'T DO THE RELIEF AND IT'S. AND IT'S SOLID. YES NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          OKAY. BUT WE'D STILL HAVE TO DO THE MAQUETTE FOR YOU TO KNOW FOR SURE. I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFER. 
          I CAN I CAN I CAN GO BACK TO THE FOUNDRY AND TRY AND TRY AND ASK THEM. BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THIS ESTIMATE, YOU KNOW, WELL. IF YOU COULD DO THAT AND, GIVE THEM THE SIZE, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BOARD WOULD WANT TO DO A MAQUETTE AND THEN MAYBE NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE, THE REAL SCULPTURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF, IF WE HAD A SOLID ONE, THAT WOULDN'T GO OVER, MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, 15 OR 20,000, THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER OPTION. SORRY WHAT WOULD WOULDN'T GO OVER 15, 20, YES. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? THE FOR THE SOLID SCULPTURE. SAME SIZE. ARE YOU SAYING 15 TO 20,000? MORE ON TOP OF THE BUDGET? YES YEAH. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I MEAN, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO MOLD WHEN THINGS ARE LESS COMPLICATED, TOO, YOU KNOW? SO HOW COMPLICATED IS AND HOW THEY HAVE TO REALLY SEE IT? YEAH SO 
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IF WE DID A BUDGET THAT WENT IN BETWEEN, THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY, THEN YOU COULD COME BACK AND TELL ME HOW MUCH THE BRONZE CASTING WOULD BE, WILL THAT BE WILL THAT GO IN TO MORE WORK FOR MORE FOR YOU AS FAR AS THE MOLD AND THE ARMATURE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, DO YOU DO THE MOLD AND THE ARMATURE, OR DOES THE FOUNDRY DO THE WHOLE THING? NO, THE FOUNDRY DOES IT. OKAY SO YOU JUST YOU JUST GIVE THEM THE MAQUETTE AND THEN THEY DO THE REST. EXACTLY YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I DO THE ARMATURE AND ALL OF THAT, AND THEN THEY CAN, WE STILL HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE ENGINEER TO SEE IF IT'S THE SAME THING, BUT THEY SAID THEY CAN ALSO, LIKE, STRUCTURALLY MAKE IT SOUND FOR THE ENGINEER AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, JUST JUST GO BACK. JUST JUST, GOING BACK TO THE ARROWS AND THE PIECES IS THE WORRY IS THE WORRY PEOPLE GETTING GETTING HURT AND BENDING . THEY'RE NOT LASTING. YES. IT'S IT'S NOT ESTHETIC AT ALL. IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH CHILDREN GOING UP TO IT. AND TRYING TO CLIMB ON IT OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE IF YOU HAVE A FULL SCULPTURE, IF THEY CLIMB ON IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO HURT IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A RELIEF, IS THAT GOING TO HURT IT? AND WILL THE CHILDREN GET HURT? YEAH I MEAN, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T CLIMB ON SCULPTURES THERE. I KNOW, I KNOW, AND WE PUT SIGNS OUT. WE DO EVERYTHING ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE POSSIBLE TO KEEP THEM OFF OF THEM. BUT, YOU JUST HAVE THOSE 1 OR 2 THAT, PARENTS AREN'T WATCHING THEM, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF COUNT FOR THAT. YEAH. IF IT WAS IN A MUSEUM THAT LOSING THE ARROWS WOULD LOSE THE THEME OF THE PIECE. YEAH. I THINK THE ARROWS HAVE TO BE THERE, YEAH. BUT LET US TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN I'LL CALL YOU BACK AFTER THE MEETING. YEAH. AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. WOULD BE TO MAYBE HAVE IT LIFTED HIGHER AND A BIGGER PLINTH SO THAT. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD OPTION. IN FACT, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE WHOLE THING. IF THEY COULDN'T CLIMB UP ON IT, THEN. YEAH. YEAH I MEAN IT WOULD LOOK REALLY COOL TO BE LIKE ALMOST LIKE REALLY RAISED UP. LIKE IT'S REARING UP LIKE, ALMOST LIKE A MONUMENT, YOU KNOW. YES. AND THAT WOULD WE SEE THE BUDGET? THERE'S, THE WHOLE CONCRETE PLINTH THING IS, IT'S 1800 RIGHT NOW. SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD CHECK ON THAT AND SEE HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD BE, AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE, THE, THE, THE BRONZING PART OF IT WITH THE ARMATURE AND THE MOLD WOULDN'T GO OVER AN ADDITIONAL, SAY, 5000 FOR THE RELIEF, I DON'T THINK SO, IT'S SO HARD FOR ME TO SAY IT LIKE I WISH, LIKE, NORMALLY WE. YEAH, NORMALLY THE BUDGETS ARE A BIT HIGHER FOR, LIKE, A LIFE SIZE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A BIT MORE WIGGLE ROOM IF THINGS GO OVER. AND I CAN CHANGE IT. BUT TO GET THE TO GET THE QUOTE FROM THE FOUNDRY FOR MY OTHER ONES, YOU'D HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE, THE MAQUETTE TO THEM. AND THEN THEY'VE GIVEN ME A PRICE BASED ON THE MAQUETTE, BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT IT, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ALL THIS MOLDING AND IT'S GOING TO BE HOWEVER MANY PARTS THE MOLDING IS, IS MORE EFFORT. AND THEN THEY CALCULATE HOW MUCH THE BRONZE IS BECAUSE THEY DO LIKE A 3D SCAN OF IT. OKAY. THEY ACTUALLY CALCULATE EVERYTHING. SO IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I'VE DONE IT BEFORE. SO I PUSHED THEM AND PUSHED THEM AND PUSHED THEM TO, TO GIVE US THESE PRICES. 
          AND, I JUST DON'T LIKE THE YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY THEY ALWAYS SAY IT'S AN ESTIMATE, YOU KNOW, AND, BUDGET WITH THE ESTIMATES IS, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RIGHT. SO. OKAY, WELL, LET US DISCUSS IT AND THEN I WILL CALL YOU BACK AND WE'LL DECIDE WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE. OKAY OKAY. 
          COOL. YEAH, JUST LET ME KNOW. I MEAN, WE'LL OBVIOUSLY TRY TO, LIKE, MAKE IT WORK. HOWEVER, WE CAN. OKAY. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. SONNY COOL. COOL CHAT LATER. BYE BYE. OKAY, COOL. COOL 
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LET'S JUST RAISE IT? JUST LET'S RAISE IT. YEAH, YEAH. HOW WOULD YOU RAISE IT? HOW HIGH WOULD YOU RAISE IT? WELL, I WOULD SAY IT'D HAVE TO BE AT LEAST FIVE FEET, WOULDN'T YOU? I MEAN, FOR KIDDOS , RIGHT? ENOUGH SO THAT KIDS DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ON THE BASE WHERE THEY CAN JUMP UP, GET THEIR FEET. WELL, THEY'D HAVE TO BE A LOT BIGGER KID TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND IF A LITTLE KID TUGS ON THAT ARROW, HE'S NOT GOING TO GET IT LOOSE. HE WOULD HAVE TO SLAM IT WITH SOMETHING LIKE HIS FOOT. IF IT'S UP THAT HIGH, I DON'T THINK HE CAN DO THAT ON THIS ESTIMATE IT IT'S, PLINTH SLASH BASE IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES. ONLY $760 WITH THIS LITTLE BASE. IT'S EIGHT RIGHT NOW. THE CONCRETE SLAB IS 1800. IT'S JUST. YEAH OKAY. WELL, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S IT THERE ON TOP, WELL, IT'S THREE LINES ABOVE THE THAT PINK LINE RIGHT HERE. WHICH ONE? THE ACTUAL PRODUCTION OF THE. OH, OKAY. THIS OKAY. PRODUCTION. YEAH. SO IF THAT LITTLE BASE IS 1800, WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE AT 44. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THAT. AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT IF HE MAKES IT SOLID THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE, HOW DOES IT IMPACT. BECAUSE ORIGINALLY OUR BUDGET WAS 80,000 FOR 2024 OR 20. THAT WAS FOR TWO PIECES. TWO PIECES. BUT HE'S ONLY GOING TO PRODUCE ONE PIECE. OKAY. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOSHI DID FOR 80,000, 40,000 A PIECE, HE DID IT WITH STONE. STONE IS MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THAN BRONZE, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, IF WE HAD 80,000 TO SPEND WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE TWO PIECES. NOW, I THINK WE'RE APPROACHING 46 AT A, YOU KNOW, 46, 47. SO THAT DOESN'T LEAVE 40,000 FOR ANOTHER PIECE. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SACRIFICE TO HAVE THIS PIECE? AND WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND A SECOND PIECE THAT'S GOING TO BE 30 SOMETHING. I THINK IF YOU ALL REALLY WANT IT, THEN WE NEED TO DO ONE PIECE THIS YEAR AND THEN DO A CALL NEXT YEAR. THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY IN THE ART FUND, SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND IT ALL IN ONE PLACE FOR SURE, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE DEER AND TO PAY FOR SOMETHING FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT. OKAY, I THINK IT'S WORTH ALLOWING THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN ORDER FOR THE PIECE TO LOOK THE WAY WE NEED IT TO LOOK AND REPRESENT WHAT WE NEED IT TO, WHAT WE NEED IT TO FOR THE SAKE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH THAT. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. I, I THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING ARTIST AND THE WORK THAT HE DOES IS REALLY IMPRESSIVE. AND TO GET TO ENJOY THAT. AND WILEY WOULD BE A REAL TREAT, I'M WORRIED THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING HIM ENOUGH MONEY, YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT, HE MIGHT HAVE TO EAT SOME COSTS IF THESE ESTIMATES DON'T COME BACK RIGHT? OR LIKE IF HE COMES BACK AND IT'S HIGHER THAN HE HAD ON THIS QUOTE, LIKE, WILL WE BE ABLE TO ADJUST AND MODIFY THAT FOR HIM? JUST LIKE I DON'T WANT US TO SCRIMP AT THIS POINT AND THEN NOT GET WHAT WE REALLY WANT . THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW, LIKE, I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST WHAT WE'RE INVESTING NOW, WE NEED TO BE FULLY COMMITTED. AND I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF WE DO ONE PIECE THIS YEAR AND WE JUST DO IT REALLY WELL. IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? GLORIA AGREED. WELL YOU KNOW, I'M A FISCAL PERSON. SO TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, WHEREAS YOU TOOK YOSHI AND THE OTHER PEOPLE, THEY LIVED WITHIN THAT BUDGET AND THEY PRESENTED THAT AND THEY LIVE WITHIN 40 AND IN HIS CASE, 40 AND 40. SO I SEE US, YOU KNOW, MAKING AN EXCEPTION. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE IN ANY FORM. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME WE SEND OUT A BID AND SAY, WHAT'S YOUR BUDGET IS 40, ARE WE GOING TO BE BACK SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE, SO THAT'S THAT'S MY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WE THIS WAS THE BUDGET. THIS IS WHAT WE NEEDED. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. WE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY. NO I DISAGREE WITH THAT, WE PAY MORE FOR BRONZE. BRONZE? A SCULPTURE 
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LIKE THIS IN FULL BRONZE FROM HIM. AND A NORMAL TIME, LIKE THE ONE THAT HE DID FOR THE UNITED NATIONS WOULD BE MUCH MORE THAN THIS DOUBLE OR TRIPLE. I'M NOT ARGUING THAT, DEBATE, DOING THE INVESTMENT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD 40,000 BUDGET AND WE HAD BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE COME IN, DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT AT 40 OR LESS, BUT HE DIDN'T. AND THEN WE CHOSE TO. WELL, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WELL, IF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND YOSHI WAS WAS GIVEN THAT BUDGET, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET CAN BE ANY AMOUNT THAT WE WANT TO PUT ON THE BUDGET, AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AS FAR AS THE ART GOES, FOR INSTANCE, THE PIECE THAT'S OUT HERE, THE MOSAIC THAT WAS 85,000. YEAH, THAT WAS ANOTHER BUDGET. YEAH. 
          SO BUDGETS CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU CAN DO A CALL FOR ARTISTS. AND IF YOU IF THEY STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE STONE OR SOME MATERIAL LIKE CONCRETE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S, THAT'S EASY TO OBTAIN. AND IT TAKES THE ARTIST TO SCULPT IT AND THEY'RE DONE, WHEN YOU DO PIECES LIKE THIS OR SOMETHING LIKE REVERIE, THE ARTIST IS, IS SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME ON IT, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE AND IT'S MORE VALUABLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT PART OF THE PART OF THE CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT THE BRONZING AT THE FOUNDRY, HE IT IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. AND SO HE'S COMING AS CLOSE AS HE CAN, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME VARIANCE IN THOSE NUMBERS. PROBABLY BASED ON TIME, LABOR AND MATERIAL OF ACTUAL PERFORMANCE. YEAH. AND IT'S HE'S TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET AND HE'S NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. I'M HONESTLY I BELIEVE THAT, AND IF ANYTHING GOES WRONG, IT COMES OUT OF HIS POCKET. SO HE NEEDS TO BE SURE ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST HIM. HE NEEDS TO MAKE AN ARTIST FEE. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF WE LIKE THIS PIECE AND IT IS BRONZE AND IT IS GOING TO COST MORE, DO WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT, OR DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO A CALL AND STICK WITHIN 40 OR 50 OR 60,000? WHATEVER WE DECIDE FOR THAT PIECE, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU ALL. I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PIECE. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, IT'S MAJESTIC. IT'S SATISFIES THE THEME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE AND I THINK IT WILL STAND OUT AND REALLY BE SOMETHING SPECIAL. YEAH AND ANOTHER THING, THE REASON THAT HE'S NOT DOING TWO PIECES IS BECAUSE HE'S HAVING TO DO THIS FOR SO LITTLE, SO I THINK JUST HIS WILLINGNESS BECAUSE HE DID COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL IDEAS AND ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS TO INCLUDE THAT WE REQUESTED. AND HE'S BEEN SO WILLING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN PROVIDING THAT. 
          ALSO, IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S INVESTED IN MAKING IT WHAT WE WANT TO WHICH I THINK IS RIGHT, IS, YOU KNOW, A GREAT PART OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I ALSO THINK THAT BY RAISING IT, IT WILL BE EVEN THAT MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL, YEAH. CAROL, IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF PUTTING LIKE, A TRAIL CAMERA ON THERE OR SOMETHING? JUST LIKE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING WATCHED AND THAT THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE CLIMBING IT LIKE A CAMERA, YEAH. LIKE JUST JUST A CITY PARKS. 
          JUST, JUST IF PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE BEING WATCHED, THEY MIGHT NOT GET ON. THEY MIGHT TRY AND CLIMB UP AND YOU CAN HAVE ONE OF THOSE CUTE LITTLE SIGNS THAT SAYS, SMILE, YOU'RE ON CAMERA. AND THAT JUST, JUST THAT OFTENTIMES PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM DOING THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, IF IT'S RAISED, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE LITTLE KIDS. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE TEENAGERS WHO ARE HANGING OUT UNSUPERVISED. YEAH, YOU KNOW THAT. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLIMB THE FIVE FEET AND GET UP THERE AND NOT THINK ANYTHING OF IT. YOU KNOW? SO NOW SEE IF IT WAS STONE LIKE YOSHI'S PIECE, THEY COULD CLIMB UP THERE, WHICH THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A HILL AND THEY CAN SIT ON IT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO DAMAGE IT OR ANYTHING, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL STONE. NO. AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE PICTURES. I MEAN, IT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN. EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A SELFIE 
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WITH WHATEVER AND SHOW ON INSTAGRAM WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN, IT'S REALITY. 
          WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO HOW DO WE MITIGATE FOR IT? RIGHT. THE BEST WE CAN? I LOVE THE IDEA OF RAISING IT OKAY. SO BASED ON THE FEEDBACK, DO YOU WANT HIM TO DO A MAQUETTE TO GET AN EXACT PRICE AND PAY THE 3500? ARE WE COMMITTED TO DOING IT? AND IF WE ARE, THEN I THINK WE JUST GET THE MAQUETTE DONE SO HE CAN GIVE US A FINAL PRICE. RIGHT? WE CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING TO COUNCIL UNLESS IT'S WRITTEN IN STONE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY BASED ON WHAT HE WAS SHARING WITH US, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS UNTIL WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE YOU SAID, WRITTEN OUT. AND THEN IF WE DO NEED TO MAKE A MODIFICATION SOMEWHERE, THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          WILL THE MAQUETTE END UP HERE? WILL WE GET TO SEE IT? YES, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD HEAR HIM OR NOT. IT WON'T BE BRONZE. IT'LL BE RESIN, BUT IT'LL LOOK IDENTICAL TO THE BIG ONE. AND WE COULD ASK HIM TO DO IT BOTH WAYS. I MEAN, ONCE THEY HAVE THE MOLD, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL IF IT WASN'T, RELIEF. IF IT WAS SOLID, HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE, AND THEN WE COULD GET A PRICE ON BOTH. I THINK IF WE'RE COMMITTED THAT WE SHOULD DO IT. RELIEF IF WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT. OKAY. AND TAKE AWAY THE DANGER FACTOR. YEAH OKAY, OKAY. I WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. THEN. CAROL, ARE WE GOING TO MOVE PAST ITEM THREE AT THIS TIME, NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, DISCUSSION REGARDING MATERIALS FOR PUBLIC ART EVENTS. 
          PROMOTIONAL TENT. YES. SO SO IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS, YOU HAVE THIS. STEVE SENT THIS AHEAD OF TIME FOR US. AND, I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. SINCE NONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS PROMOTE THEIR BOARD, IT WAS IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ME THAT IT SAY PUBLIC ARTS BECAUSE WE'RE PROMOTING THE PUBLIC ARTS. WE'RE NOT PROMOTING THE PUBLIC ART ADVISORY BOARD. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. SO THESE ARE THE FINAL DESIGNS. AND WHAT STEVE WANTED WAS FOR US TO PICK ONE OUT, AND THEN HE WOULD DO THE TABLE AND THE TENT IN THE SAME DESIGN. SO, THE AS OF JANUARY. WHAT IS WHAT IS THE NAME GOING TO BE FOR THE ARTS IN IT'LL STILL BE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD, BUT BUT BUT NOT THE BOARD BUT THE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUPERVISING OR MANAGING. WHAT IS THE NAME GOING TO BE? IS IT IS IT GOING TO BE PUBLIC ARTS OR IS IT IT'S GOING TO BE NOTHING'S CHANGING. AND THAT'S I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAVE THE SAME NAME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN JANUARY AND NOTHING'S CHANGING. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PUBLIC ART, OKAY? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT. BUT BUT YOU DID SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE ADVISORY BOARD PORTION. YEAH. NO THAT'S FINE. AND THE TAKING AWAY THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A NAME CHANGE. IT HAS MORE TO DO WITH PROMOTING A BOARD RATHER THAN A PROJECT. YEAH. 
          I HAVE A PERSONAL OPINION. WELL, WE WANT TO GET OPINIONS. THAT'S RIGHT. I LIKE THE TWO, OR THREE, I GUESS. RATHER THAT ARE BLACK THAT HAVE THE BLUE AND GREEN WITH, THE LITTLE DESIGNS KIND OF ABOVE AND BELOW THE WHERE IT SAYS PUBLIC ARTS. OKAY. SO OF THOSE TWO, ISN'T IT TOO. WELL, I ALSO LIKE THE ONE HERE THAT HAS LIKE THE BLUE AND GREEN LIKE SWOOPES. YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT HAS A LITTLE MORE. SO THIS ONE AND THIS ONE ADDED THESE TWO. THESE TWO IS WHAT 
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SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. I LIKE THOSE TWO. BUT THEN I, I LIKE THE BLUE AND GREEN ONE BECAUSE TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE A SWOOSH OF PAINT. AND IT'S AN ART BOARD. OH I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S KIND OF WHY I LIKE THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME BLACK MORE BLACK IN IT, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW, I LIKE THIS ONE THE BEST. THE SAME IS THAT THE SWISH ONE? YEAH. YEAH. THE SWISH. OKAY OKAY. I DO REALLY LIKE THE, THE BLACK, THE ONES WITH THE BLACK BACKGROUND. I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS ONE ALSO LOOKS LIKE A PAINTBRUSH. AND YEAH, I DO LIKE THAT ONE TOO, THIS THIS IS THIS THE, THE FRONT OF THE TABLE. AND THE TOP WOULD BE, WHATEVER. BLACK OR WHITE. YEAH. SO YOU ALL ARE PICKING OUT THIS ONE, RIGHT? YEAH OTHER ONE. I JUST THINK THAT ONE LOOKS. THE WAY IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE. SWOSH. I CAN SEE THAT. JUST WHAT I THINK THE OTHERS LOOK A LITTLE TOO, LIKE. LIKE CORPORATE TO ME. THE ONES THAT HAVE KIND OF THE A LITTLE MORE ARTISTIC FLAIR TO IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS ONE WITH. YEAH. WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. I'M NOT LOVING I'M NOT LOVING THE WHITE BACKGROUND ONES, BUT THEY MIGHT BE MORE VISIBLE. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M THINKING ABOUT. THE ONES WITH THE WHITE BACKGROUND MIGHT BE MORE VISIBLE, MORE. MORE EASY TO SEE. LIKE FROM FROM AFAR BECAUSE THEY'RE WHITE. BUT I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THE, I LIKE THE DESIGN OF THIS ONE. I LIKE THEM ALL. I MEAN, IT'S HARD. 
          YEAH WELL, HE'S GOING TO BRING BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, THE TABLE AND THE TENT AND EVERYTHING IN THE SAME DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT. SO DO YOU WANT HIM TO BRING BACK TWO SEPARATE ONES TO LOOK AT? I THINK AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY ELSE FEELS, BUT I LIKE IT. YEAH GLORIA. WELL I AGREE THAT YOUR COMMENT ABOUT IT'S WHITE, IT WOULD STAND OUT MORE. SO I WONDER IF HE COULD REVERSE THAT BLACK AND MAKE THAT WHITE. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. DO YOU DO ONE IN WHITE AND ONE IN BLACK? YEAH. THEN HE WOULD. THEN OF COURSE HE WOULD. I DON'T KNOW HOW HE WOULD PUT THE PRINT IN IN BLACK BECAUSE IT'D BE ON A WHITE BACKGROUND, BUT IT WOULD BE THE SAME JUST AGAIN, MAKE WHITE, BLACK, BLACK, WHITE. SO YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THIS HAS TO BE BLACK. YEAH. THAT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW UP. I'M FINE WITH THE TABLE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FLAG. OH, OKAY. YEAH, I THINK, AT LEAST I'M INTERPRETING WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE WHITE. THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION THAT THAT IF WE ON THE FLAG ITSELF, IF WE IF WE MAKE THE BLACK, WHITE AND THE WHITE BLACK, THEN IT WOULD STAND, THE WHITE WOULD STAND OUT MORE, MORE LIKE A WHITE LIKE THAT BACKGROUND. I WOULD WANT TO SEE A RENDERING. I THINK. DO WHAT NOW? SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS DO ONE SAMPLE WITH THAT ONE. THE WAY HE HAS IT, THIS ONE, THE WHOLE THING, THE TENT, THE TABLECLOTH, ALL THAT. AND THEN DO A SECOND ONE WHERE THE BACKGROUND IS WHITE INSTEAD OF BLACK, AND THEN THE THINGS THAT ARE WHITE RIGHT NOW WILL BECOME BLACK. AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BLACK RIGHT NOW WILL BECOME WHITE, OKAY. AND SO FLIP IT. SO THEN THEN DO SAMPLES OF THAT ON THIS DESIGN. BOTH ON THAT DESIGN, BUT DO ONE IN BLACK AND ONE IN WHITE. GOT IT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          AND YOU SAID TENT A WHILE AGO IS ATTENDING HERE. NO. RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE THE FLAGS IN HERE. NO JUST THE TENT. I MEAN, JUST THE FLAG. THAT'S JUST A MOCKUP OF THE FLAG. IT'S JUST THE OUTLINE OF THE FLAG. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FINALLY, DISCUSSION ITEM FOUR. BOARD MEMBERS WILL DISCUSS THE EVENT AND VOLUNTEER FOR LOAD IN AREAS AND OTHER DUTIES FOR THE EVENT TO BE HELD ON JUNE 29TH, 2024. AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. OH YEAH. SO THAT IS NEXT SATURDAY. SATURDAY WEEK, 
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EVERYTHING IS DONE ON. JULIE AND I WENT THROUGH AND COLOR CODED THE VENDORS. IF WE GET MORE VENDORS IN, WE'LL ADD THEM. WE'VE GOT ABOUT YOU REMEMBER THE BOOTHS THAT WERE WAY OUT, ALMOST TO THE BANK. YEAH. PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT THOSE. SO UNLESS WE GET A BIG INFLUX OF VENDORS, I KIND OF LEFT THOSE OUT BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT FAR DOWN. SO WE HAVE ABOUT NINE BOOTHS LEFT AND I'M SURE THAT WE WILL FILL THOSE. SO STEVE IS GOING TO BE ON BALLARD DIRECTING VENDORS, COMING IN ON BALLARD, AND JOHN IS GOING TO BE ON JACKSON AND OAK. AND WHAT HE DOES OR WHAT HE DID THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND IT WORKED REALLY WELL. IS EVERY CAR THAT CAME IN, HE CHECKED TO SEE WHERE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO. AND THEN HE DIRECTED THEM EITHER DOWN JACKSON TO BALLARD OR TO THAT LITTLE ALLEY. SO HE'LL DO THE SAME THING THIS YEAR. AND CRAIG HAS ASKED THAT WE, GREASE PENCIL THE WINDSHIELDS THAT THEY ARE A VENDOR AND PUT THEIR BOOTH NUMBER OR SOMETHING TO IDENTIFY THEM. SO HE AGREED THAT THAT WE COULD DO THAT. NO PROBLEM. I WISH THE GUYS WERE HERE. I SEEM TO REMEMBER, DID WE HAVE GREASE PENCILS AT THE CHRISTMAS TIME? WE DID, BUT WORK OR SOMETHING? SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH THEM AND IT DIDN'T WORK. THE REASON IT DIDN'T WORK IS THERE WASN'T ONE SPECIFIC AREA WHERE EVERYBODY CAME IN. THEY EITHER CAME IN ON MARBLE. IF THEY WERE IN A CERTAIN GROUP, OR THEY CAME IN ON, JEFFERSON ON IF THEY WERE IN ANOTHER GROUP. SO THERE WAS THERE WAS NO WAY. STEVE SAID THEY WERE COMING IN SO FAST. THERE WAS NO WAY TO MARK THE CARS THIS WAY, BOTH FOR THE ART FESTIVAL AND FOR THE BLUEGRASS. THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE ENTRY. SO ONCE THEY GET TO THAT ONE ENTRY, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOLD WHERE TO GO. AND AT THAT POINT IS WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR CAR MARKED. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T PARK IN OUR IN THE VISITOR PARKING. SO JOHN IS GOING TO BE ON JACKSON. SO JOHN'S GOING TO BE ON OAK AND JACKSON AND JACKSON. SO THAT'S ONE ENTRY. AND YEAH. AND THAT'S WHERE THEY COME IN ON BIRMINGHAM . AND THEY TURN RIGHT AND COME DOWN OAK. SO HE HE CATCHES THEM FIRST NO MATTER WHICH AREA THEY'RE GOING TO BECAUSE AND BECAUSE DOWNTOWN WILEY WILL BE CLOSED, THERE WON'T BE ANY TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THERE. 
          RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN HE'LL DIRECT THEM TO, THE THREE AREAS, AND HE'LL MARK THEIR CAR BEFORE THEY LEAVE. SO SO I NEED A VOLUNTEER FOR, THE GREEN THAT THE ALLEY PART, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY COME DOWN THE ALLEY AND THEN COME THROUGH BEHIND, THE MURAL. AND THEN I NEED SOMEBODY FOR JACKSON. WHERE ARE WE GOING TO DO YOU KNOW THE LITTLE ALLEY BEFORE THAT HOUSE? THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK BY THE PARK. DIRECT PEOPLE. DIRECT PEOPLE. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIST. SAY YOU'RE IN THE ORANGE AREA. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE ORANGE VENDORS. AND AS THEY COME IN, YOU'RE GOING TO LET THEM KNOW THEIR THEIR BOOTH IS RIGHT HERE. AND THE KIDS WILL HELP THEM GET TO THEIR BOOTH. SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO CHECK THEM OFF. THESE ARE THE VENDORS THAT HAVE ARRIVED. CAN I WORK WITH JOHN AGAIN? OR NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. SEE, THE NEW MEMBERS AREN'T GOING TO KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND WE DON'T HAVE JOSEPH. OKAY. COMING SO WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED. I ALTERNATE, I WORK WITH STEVE OR JOHN. I USUALLY HELP THEM OUT. EITHER ONE. YEAH. AT THE ART FESTIVAL. YOU CAN DO THAT. BUT HERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS. SEE, THE NEW BOARD DOESN'T TAKE TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JULY 1ST. SO, I DON'T THINK JOSEPH WILL COME. 
          MORE THAN LIKELY HE WON'T, JOHN HAS COMMITTED TO COME. ARE YOU COMING, ANITA, OR. NO YEAH. OKAY YEAH. OKAY. I'LL WHICHEVER YOU. YOU KNOW, I'LL STAY THE MOST OF THE OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THE 
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AFTERNOON. YEAH. YOU ALWAYS STAY. OKAY I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO I HOPE NOT. YEAH. I'M HAPPY TO GO WHEREVER. OKAY. I JUST NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT EXACTLY TO DO. BUT I'M HAPPY TO STAND THERE WITH A CLIPBOARD AND MARK PEOPLE OFF. I DID THAT AT THE OTHER ONE. SO, YEAH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING. YOU'RE YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE A PLACARD, LIKE IF YOU'RE THE ORANGE PERSON, THEN THEY HAVE AN ORANGE PLACARD AND THEN YOU JUST GET THE KIDS TO SHOW THEM WHERE THEIR BOOTH IS, AND THEY'LL HAVE MAPS, AND JUST CHECK THEM OFF AND THEN NOBODY CAN STAY AND SET UP THEIR BOOTH. THEY HAVE TO UNLOAD, MOVE THEIR CAR FOR THE NEXT PERSON BECAUSE IT'LL GET REAL BOGGED DOWN. SO THAT'S IT? YEAH. THE KEEP THEM MOVING KIND OF THING. THE LOADING POLICE IS A HARD JOB. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I LIKE BEING WITH THE GUYS BECAUSE THEY DO A. YEAH I'M NOT GOING TO THAT. THEY, THEY, THEY DO A GREAT JOB. YEAH. WHAT DID WE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, I CAN'T PARK HERE. AND THEN, AND THEN THEY PARK THERE AND THEN YOU CAN'T FIND THEM. BUT DIDN'T WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE ARTS FESTIVAL? THERE'LL BE A NUMBER ON THERE AND WE'LL JUST CALL THEIR LITTLE TELEPHONE NUMBER. SO THE NUMBER IS OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND THE AND, AND THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE UNLOAD. OKAY. 
          YEAH. HE'S GOT THE CALL OUT NOW AND HE'LL LET ME KNOW NEXT WEEK HOW MANY KIDS ARE COMING. IS IT 5 A.M. 6 A.M. OH NO NO. SIX 3630. THIS ONE, WE DON'T OPEN UNTIL TEN. OH OKAY. SO WE GET THERE 630 AND EVERYBODY HAS TO BE SET UP BY 930. YEAH AND I DO HAVE, THIS MIGHT EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. IF YOU WANT TO PASS THESE AROUND, THESE ARE THE PLACARDS. THEY'LL BE ORANGE, GREEN OR BLUE. IT'S A BLUE STAR AND A GREEN SQUARE. SO WHEN WE SEND OUT THE INSTRUCTION LETTER, IT WILL TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT THIS UP IN THEIR VISOR SO THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE PHONE. I KNOW, SO, WE KNOW WHERE TO PUT THEM. AND THEN THIS IS THE MAP THAT WE SEND OUT THAT SHOWS THEM HOW THEY COME IN ON BIRMINGHAM AND COME UP HERE TO OAK, AND THAT'S WHERE JOHN IS. 
          AND THEN SOME THE ORANGE ONES WILL COME DOWN, JACKSON. THE GREEN ONES WILL GO IN THAT LITTLE ALLEY BETWEEN THAT SHOPPING CENTER AND THE HOUSE, AND THEY'LL COME DOWN HERE TO, LOAD IN AND THEN THE BLUE ONES WILL GO DOWN OAK AND COME UP. BALLARD OKAY. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO PASS THESE AROUND AND ALSO THE LETTER OF INSTRUCTION. SO YOU CAN SEE IT. AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OFF THE PART ABOUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. I'M GOING TO REMOVE THAT BEFORE I SEND THEM OUT BECAUSE, CRAIG AND HIS CREW ARE TAKING CARE OF THE FOOD VENDORS AND THE OTHER FOOD VENDORS THAT WE HAVE ARE COTTAGE VENDORS. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT. MONDAY OR BEFORE? YEAH. YEAH. THEY NEVER WERE TOLD . SO TRUE. SO, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WHEN I GET THERE IN THE MORNING, I'LL GET A VOLUNTEER TO GO DOWN TO THE DONUT. ISN'T THE DONUT SHOP STILL OPEN DOWNTOWN? YEAH. I'LL GET THEM TO GO DOWN AND GET 2 OR 3 DOZEN DONUTS AND THEN, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BRING ICE AND A BIG, ICE CHEST, AND THEN JOHN'S GOING TO BRING THE WATER. AND, EVERY YEAR WHEN WE GET ALL THIS COFFEE FROM STARBUCKS, NOBODY DRINKS IT. 
          MAYBE THEY HAVE ONE CUP AND WE END UP EITHER TAKING IT BACK TO STARBUCKS OR SOMETHING. SO, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT JUST GOING TO SHOEMAKER'S OR ONE OF THE VENDORS AND GETTING YOUR COFFEE AND, I'LL JUST PUT IT ON THE CREDIT CARD AS VOLUNTEERS. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? YEAH. I THINK ONE OF THE VENDORS THAT'S COMING IS. I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME NOW, BUT, THEY HAVE ALL 
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KINDS OF FLAVORED COFFEES, AND THAT'S VERY SWEET. OKAY THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THE BLUEGRASS. SO. 
          SO THE WATER IS JUST GOING TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING. IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS AND FOR US. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL IT OR ANYTHING. DO WE HAVE EVERY EVERYTHING WE NEED VOLUNTEER WISE FIGURED OUT WE'VE GOT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S MORE OF US, LIKE, WHERE DO YOU NEED THE REST ? ARE WE WORKING IN PAIRS OR HOW DO YOU WANT US, HOW DO YOU WANT TO SPLIT UP? ARE YOU GOING TO BE THERE THAT EARLY? ANITA I WILL DO MY BEST. I COME EARLY, AND THEN ONCE WE'RE SET UP AND READY TO START, THEN I HEAD OUT. SO I'M HAPPY BEING HERE TO HELP SET UP. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU WANT ME. OKAY, SO YOU LET ME KNOW. OKAY. LET ME KNOW. ALL RIGHT. SO SO, ONE OF YOU CAN BE IN THE IN THE INFORMATION PART, OR YOU YOU COULD ACTUALLY HELP JOHN. HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO NEED MORE HELP THAN ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE HE'S MARKING. BECAUSE NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS LIKE, HE WOULD TAKE THE FIRST CAR AND I WOULD TAKE THE SECOND CAR, AND THEN THAT WAY WE COULD BUMP TWO OUT AT THE SAME TIME. AND WE KIND OF HAD IT DOWN. AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS THE WHOLE LIST OF ALL THREE COLORS, RIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN MARK THEM IN. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DID IS LIKE WE WOULD JUST TAG TEAM, YEAH. BECAUSE THEY COME IN IN DROVES. WELL, AND ALSO JUST THINKING LONG TERM SINCE HE MIGHT NOT BE HERE NEXT YEAR THAT WAY I KNOW HIS SYSTEM REALLY WELL. YEAH. CAN CARRY IT ON. HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE EVENTS, BUT WE'LL SEE, I THINK FOR THE, ARTS, IN DECEMBER, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF US TOOK PICTURES OF, OF THE OF ALL THE BOOTHS. SO IF SOMEBODY IS WALKING AROUND SAYING, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS BOOTH. AND THEN WE WERE JUST GOING TO LOOK FOR IT. SO CAN YOU SEND US SOMETHING? OR DO YOU HAVE A PRINTOUT THAT WE COULD TAKE A PICTURE OF ON THAT DAY? OKAY. YEAH, I'LL SEND THE MAP. SO SO, YOU'LL HAVE THE MAP THAT THE VENDORS GET, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE MAP THAT SHOWS. IT'S REALLY, IT'S SMALL, SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE THE NAMES, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS, SO. AND THEY'RE COLOR CODED. SO IF, IF YOU'RE IN THE GREEN LETTING PEOPLE IN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE GREEN IS, THE BOOSTER THAT COLOR . AND SAME WITH THE BLUE AND THE ORANGE I HAVE A THOUGHT THAT DOING THIS FOR ENOUGH YEARS, WHEN THE WATER COMES THERE ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT SAY, OH, CAN I GET A WATER? CAN I GET A WATER? CAN I GET A WATER? DO WE WANT TO SELL WATER HERE? OH, THERE'S CHURCHES GIVING WATER OUT. SO WE NEED TO REDIRECT THEM TO ONE OF THE CHURCHES. IN FACT WATER BROOK IS GOING TO BE RIGHT ON THAT CORNER AS YOU COME INTO THE PAVILION. AND THEY'RE THE FIRST BOOTH THERE AND THEY'RE GIVING OUT WATER. SO AND THEN CAROL, JUST TO ASK, HAVE WE DOUBLE CHECKED THAT NOBODY'S SIDE BY SIDE. THAT'S THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY GET REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT. YES, I DID THAT AS I WAS PUTTING THEM OUT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE LIST AND THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU SEND IT TO ME? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE ON A PLANE TRAVELING, AND I WILL HAVE TIME. YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO. 
          YES, I WILL, I WILL BE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO. OKAY, I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND TRY MY BEST TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT. AND I HAVE TO GO BACK TOMORROW OR MONDAY AND VERIFY THE, PAYMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN ENCODE TO THE LIST OF VENDORS. I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYBODY OUT. SO IT'S ALWAYS FUN, FUN STUFF. YEAH, BUT I'LL HAVE MY COMPUTER TOO. LAST YEAR WE HAD SOME IT WAS WEIRD STUFF. LIKE THERE WAS THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT GOT FRUSTRATED THAT THEY WERE NEXT TO SOMEBODY ELSE. THAT WAS THE SAME. IT WAS A PEPPER, PEPPER. AND THEN AND THEN THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE WHO THEY HAD IN LISTED IN THEIR NOTES THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SIDE BY SIDE BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING THEIR BOOTHS BY THEMSELVES, AND THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE EACH OTHER POTTY BREAKS, AND SOMEHOW THEY HAD ENDED UP SEPARATED AND THEY WANTED TO BE TOGETHER. AND WE ONLY HAD TWO REQUESTS THIS YEAR FOR THAT. AND I'VE TAKEN CARE OF BOTH OF THEM, SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE WITH IT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THE BEST YOU CAN DO. OH YEAH, OR WHY DID YOU MOVE ME? I WAS IN A GOOD SPOT LAST YEAR AND NOW I'M NOT. I KNOW, BUT WE TELL THEM IF YOU DON'T PUT IT IN YOUR NOTES, WE DON'T KNOW. OR LIKE CORNER. THERE WAS ONE THAT COMPLAINED TO ME A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT CORNER SPOTS AND IF YOU HAD LIKE, THRONGS OF. CAROL, YOU ARE REALLY GOOD AT DEALING WITH 
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PEOPLE WHO ARE FRUSTRATED AND STAYING CALM AND BEING GRACE UNDER FIRE. LIKE YOU HANDLE THAT BECAUSE I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, WELL , AND JOHN'S HILARIOUS BECAUSE JOHN'S LIKE, I'M JUST A VOLUNTEER AND YOU'RE JUST SO CALM, COOL, AND COLLECTED. IT'S GREAT. IT'S GREAT. YEAH. JUST SEND HIM MY WAY. I'LL TAKE CARE OF HIM. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO INTO THE BUSINESS ITEMS. THE ONLY ITEM ON THE BUSINESS AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ART MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 18TH, 2024 MEETING, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 18TH, 2024 ARTS BOARD MEETING. MINUTES. I SECOND THE MOTION, SINCE YOU'RE NOT SITTING IN YOUR REGULAR SEATS, YOU WANT TO JUST RAISE YOUR HAND? VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT, WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SECOND, THAT MOTION. YOU'RE ALREADY UP. 
          OKAY ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNING
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.