[00:00:04] AT THIS TIME WE CALL TO ORDER THE WILEY HISTORICAL REVIEW COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR APRIL 25TH. TIME IS SIX O'CLOCK. UM AT THIS TIME. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? YES, UM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE. UM ON THE LANDMARKS IF YOU ALL REMEMBER I DON'T. I GUESS IT WAS LATE MID YEAR LAST YEAR. WE DID DO SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE HISTORICAL LOCAL LANDMARKS IN THE ORDINANCE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS. WE RECEIVED ONE AND THEN THEY KIND OF PULLED IT BACK. UM SO MOVING FORWARD. WE'LL START LOOKING AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT, UH, PORTION 6.3 E OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE ORDINANCE IS THERE AND, UM SO AS AGAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN START LOOKING AT THAT. BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE. THAT WE HAVE NOT TO. THIS DATE RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS. KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'S NON AGENDA ITEMS. WE CAN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS IT. SO IF WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, THEN UH, WE COULD. IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE COULD GO OVER IT ONE MORE TIME. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO INTO THE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF, YOU KNOW? UH, WILL GO INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH ITEM A CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 28TH 2024. MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THEM. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS CHANGES. YEAH. IF NOT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. IN A SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION. YOU CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSES. WE DON'T HAVE A WORK SESSION. WE DON'T HAVE TO RECONVENE. THERE'S NO WHERE OH, I'M SORRY. I SEE IT NOW. THE REGULAR WE'LL GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I DON'T ONE I WAS WAY PAST IT. SORRY. UH, CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 110 EAST OAK STREET WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. JASON THANK YOU. MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION. UM AS MENTIONED, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO RAISE OR LOOK AT ME. I'M SO USED TO PNZ MEETINGS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS. UM TO RENOVATE. UM 110 EAST OAK STREET. UM, THAT IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS, UM ON THE EAST WOULD BE JUST WEST OF THE CROSS. CHURCH. UM BUT IT AND IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OAK STREET. UM THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROPOSING TO MAKE SOME RENOVATIONS TO THE EXTERIOR FACADE AS WELL AS THE INTERIOR. UM, THE INTERIOR WORK I KNOW IS ALREADY UNDERWAY. UM, BECAUSE SOME OF MY BUILDING INSPECTORS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE LOOKING AT IT. UM AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR GOES, THE APPLICANT, UM , HAS PROPOSED TO PAINT THE EXTERIOR BRICK. AND ALSO, UM RENOVATE THE DOOR, THE CURRENT THE CURRENT DOOR AND THEN THERE'S A ROLL UP DOOR, ALSO ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND EXCHANGE THAT WITH A WALKING LIKE A PIVOT DOOR WITH SOME WINDOWS ON EITHER SIDE OF COURT, LOOKING AT THE EXHIBIT, UM FOR A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. UH COLIN K HAS THIS PROPERTY ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED BACK IN 1910, BUT THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY THAT THE BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY STANDING. THERE IS IN ANY WAY THAT ORIGINAL BUILDING BASED ON HOW IT'S MADE. UM GUESSING, PROBABLY 19 FIFTIES SIXTIES SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, UM TALKED TO A LONGTIME RESIDENT TODAY AND FOUND OUT BECAUSE I KNEW THAT IT WENT BACK. IT USED TO BE USED AS AN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOP, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FOR JUST GENERAL REFERENCE. IT WAS ACTUALLY A HOSPITAL BEFORE THEN, IN THAT LITTLE AREA THERE, UM SO THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING. UM AND THE PROPERTY UNTIL ABOUT 2021 WAS OWNED BY A LADY LIKE LLC, WHICH SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND A WHILE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOT IS A COMPANY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORIC BACKGROUND IN [00:05:02] THE CITY OF WILEY. SO THAT'S A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE, UH, PROPERTY ITSELF. UM WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING. SO THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT WASN'T EVER LIKE A PART OF THE BAKERY BUILDING THAT THAT WAS A SEPARATE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE THEY'RE NEXT TO EACH OTHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT PART OF EACH OTHER. YES THAT IS CORRECT. I THINK I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS LIKE ADJACENT TO IT SEPARATE OWNERS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS ADJACENT TO IT. OK HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN THAT ONE LITTLE STRUCTURE, NO SECOND STORY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT WE KNOW OF. AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S NEVER BEEN A, UH, TWO STORY BUILDING. THAT WAS A LITTLE CLINIC. TOOK CARE OF ALL PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT, UM AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. LIKE YOU WANNA COME UP AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. COME ON UP. BECAUSE I WORK. YEAH, COME UP. YOU KNOW THE DRILL. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I SEE. GOT IT. OK, THANK YOU. UH, BLAKER, BEST 307 NOR JACKSON AVENUE IN WILEY. AND UH, YEAH, I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ABOUT BUILDING. I NORMALLY NEVER TURN IT OFF. UM I KNOW ON HERE. YOU SAID YOU WOULD, UM, PAINT THE BRICK. EITHER BLACK OR WHITE. I SAW I KNOW THERE'S A BLACK PICTURE IN THERE. I'D PREFER WHITE OVER BLACK. YOU THINK THE BLACK ALDO AND SOME PLACES WOULD LOOK FINE. I THINK IT SEEMS A LITTLE DARK. YEAH I THINK THE WHAT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK CLEANER AND BRIGHTER. MORE INVITING. NO AREA, SO I DO LIKE WAT MORE, UH, WHITE OVER BLACK. UM AND THE DOORS. YOU HAVE THERE'S NOT A REALLY A PICTURE OF WHAT OF THE DOOR. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DOOR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR? ENTRY DOOR? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GARAGE DOOR? THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. ARE THEY GONNA BE SIMILAR AT ALL? OR IS THERE A WAY TO THE PICTURE. YOU SEE IT, BUT OVERALL UM, IS THERE A CONNECTION DOWN THERE? LET ME SEE THAT THERE IS I GOT THIS TURNED AROUND. YEAH. CUZ. THAT'S THE RIGHT RIGHT HERE. AND WHERE DOES THE ROADS OR WHERE THE ROAD DOOR IS NOW. IT'S NOT LOADED ON. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A DOOR AT ALL. CORRECT. NO THE DOOR WILL GO AND IT ITS WINDOW ON BOTH SIDES AND LIKE WHAT'S IN THE CENTER. IT LOOKS LIKE WOOD AND, UH, THAT'S STILL YOU KNOW UP FOR DEBATE, I THINK YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CURRENT RENDITION, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. HERE WE GO. I GUESS I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE YOU KNOW, FILL IN WITH BRICK. YOU'RE NEVER GONNA MATCH THE BRICK AND IT WOULD KIND OF. LEAVE IT AT A HARD PLACE WHERE IF YOU EVER WANTED TO PUT A DOOR BACK IN THERE OR NEEDED TO ADD A DOOR? YOU WOULDN'T BE. IT WOULD BE MORE WORK. NOT THAT YOU COULDN'T. BUT YOU WOULD BE MORE WORK, RIGHT? YEAH AND I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GARAGE DOOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST GONNA LET IN THE ELEMENTS WHENEVER IT RAINS, AND SO I KNOW THE CURRENT, UH, TENANT HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT OVER TIME AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE JUST WANT TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT LOOK GOOD. SO AND MY WIFE TELLS ME THAT IF YOU'RE DOING HAIR NATURAL LIGHT, IT'S IMPORTANT. TO GET THE COLORS RIGHT? SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE DOOR THAT'S ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT IN THE EXISTING BUILDING. IT'S NOT ON HERE IS IT CLOSED UP ONLY KEEPING THAT WINDOW. OH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. IF MY MOUSE WASN'T WORKING A SECOND EXCUSE. NOW, WHAT IS THAT RIGHT THERE? YEAH, SO THERE'S THAT'S WHAT LOOKS LIKE OH, YEAH, THAT'S OK. YEAH, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THERE'S A SMALL WINDOW ON THE LEFT AND THEN A DOOR THERE CURRENTLY YEAH. SO I MEAN, THE WAY THAT WE INTEND TO USE THE SPACE. UH THE DOOR WOULD BE NON OPERATIONAL. UM, AND SO WHETHER IT'S WINDOW OR DOOR, IT WOULD NOT BE USED FOR AN ENTRANCE AND [00:10:04] AN EXIT ANYMORE. IS THERE ANY CHANCE IT'S GONNA BE LIKE PUT BRICK THERE INSTEAD. LIKE TOTALLY BROKE IT OVER. ARE YOU GONNA PUT WOOD THERE? UM YOU JUST DON'T LEAVE THE DOOR AND IT BE LOCKED. YEAH, IT IT'D BE ONE OF THREE OPTIONS A DOOR THAT'S LOCKED. A WINDOW THE SIZE OF A DOOR OR, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME TYPE OF WOOD TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MATCH THE OTHER SIDE IF THAT'S WHAT WE DID THERE, AND SO I THINK TODAY MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. UM HONESTLY, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE DIRECTION OR WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE EARLY PHASES, BUT YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD HAVE WOULD BE AROUND THE GARAGE DOOR. UM THE EXISTING WINDOWS THAT ARE THERE. UM YOU KNOW, AND JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT TONIGHT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT LEAVING THE BIG FOUR BIG WINDOWS JUST LIKE THEY ARE AND THEN THE WINDOWS ON EACH SIDE OF THE DOOR AND JUST THAT DOOR SPACE. BEING WHERE THE DOOR IS? YES YEAH, SO I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE CHEAPEST DOORS THAT YOU CAN GET FOR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPRUCE THOSE UP. UM YEAH. GIVE IT GIVE IT A FACE LIFT ON THE OUTSIDE. IF WE KEPT THAT DOOR, THAT LITTLE DOOR THAT'S ON THE WHATEVER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM COULD WE POSSIBLY TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO KIND OF MATCH? AT THE DOOR WITH THE MAIN DOOR. OH, YEAH, FOR SURE. YEAH. YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE MISSED IT. YEAH, EVERYTHING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SYMMETRICAL AND CLEAN. SO FOR TONIGHT. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR LIKE APPROVAL ON THE PAINT COLOR? ONLY OR WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I WASN'T UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE NEEDED ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL ON THE PAINT COLOR. I THOUGHT AS LONG AS WE WERE WORKING WITHIN THE HISTORICAL PALETTE, WE WERE FINE THERE IS THAT ASSUMPTION, NOT CORRECT. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS, DO WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE? UM, THAT WE CAN PULL UP? BECAUSE WE DON'T TYPICALLY PAINT BRICK IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. YES UNLESS GO AHEAD. OH, I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE . IT DOES DISCOURAGE. IT DOES SAY THAT, UM, PAINTING BRICK IS DISCOURAGED. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW. SO KIND TO CLARIFY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, UM, APPROVAL OF PAINT COLORS. YES, THE ORDINANCE SAYS. A COLOR THAT IS PART OF A HISTORIC PALLET, BUT ALSO THE CHARGE FOR THIS COMMISSION IS THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CHAIRMAN STONE WAS SAYING, YEAH, BLACK IS PART OF A HISTORIC PALET. BUT DOES IT REALLY FIT THIS LOCATION? GOT IT . SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE BOARD COMES IN TO KIND OF MAKE THAT DISCUSSION AND HAVE THAT WITH THE APPLICANT, SO LET ME ASK THIS IF THERE'S SOME CONCERN AND I, I GET IT ABOUT PAINT AND BRICKS. I'VE SEEN SOME BRICK PAINTED AND IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. I'VE SEEN SOME. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY BRICK PAINTED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. ANY BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PAINTED. UH, CAN I CAN I COMMENT EVERY WELL, I WOULD SAY I'M I'M GONNA, UH, 70% OF THE BUSINESSES ON THE EAST SIDE OF BALLARD. I MEAN, KIND OF LOOK LIKE ANY COLOR ON THE RAINBOW. FROM PINK TO GRAY TO BLACK. THE WINERY'S BEEN PAINTED. I MEAN, YEAH. YEAH AND I SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT LIKE THOSE. I THINK THAT WITH BOLD YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THE BIG ONE. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST. I WON'T SAY EYE OR THE BIGGEST BUILDING THAT'S BEEN PAINTED THAT I CAN KIND OF. THINK OF. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD CREATE AN OBJECTION AND IF SO MANY OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN PAINTED, RIGHT, I. I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE WINERY BECAUSE I REMEMBER WATCHING THEM PAINT IT. AND AT FIRST IT WAS LIKE THIS CHECKERBOARD LOOKING, AND THEY DID IT ALL SOLID. UM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO I'M NOT TOO WORRIED ABOUT, UM, THE PAINTINGS. I I DO AGREE. I THINK MOST OF THEM DOWNTOWN HAVE BEEN PAINTED. SO UM NOT ALL THAT CONCERNED. UM SO TONIGHT. WE'RE JUST SAYING, YES. YOU CAN REMOVE THE GARAGE DOOR AND KIND OF FIX THAT AND THEN WE'RE DOING THE WINDOWS CORRECT IN THE MAIN DOORS. YEAH SO, YEAH. SO, I, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO TAKE ACTION ON IS YOU KNOW HOW I WANNA I WANNA MOVE FORWARD [00:15:02] WITH GETTING RID OF THE GARAGE DOOR, UH, WITH WITHOUT QUESTION AND THEN UPDATING. UM, THE DOORS THAT ARE THERE, OK? AND SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE THINGS I. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S I MEAN. KIND OF THING, SO YEAH, YEAH, I FEEL THE SAME. I BUT I FEEL THIS LIKE SOME, SANDRA THAT THE WHITE IS A BETTER CHOICE THAN THE BLACK. SO I'M CURIOUS OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THAT. DO YOU HAVE OPINION? EITHER WAY ABOUT I PERSONALLY DON'T MIND THE BLACK. THERE ARE TWO OTHER ALMOST BLACK OR BLACK BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN NOW ARE THERE. UM, I'M OK WITH THE BLACK. BUT I'M OK WITH WHITE, TOO. AND IF YOU WENT WITH W, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE TRIM AND BLOCK THE WINDOWS. THE ROOF. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY PRETTY ATTRACTIVE CONTRAST. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU WENT WITH WHITE BLACK. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CONTRAST. I DON'T KNOW THAT BLACK WITH WHITE TRIM WOULD BE A GOOD COOK. THAT ONE. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. AND I AGREE. WELL, I, I THINK I WOULD WATCH LIKE, WHY BETTER I'M OK WITH LIKE I WOULD BE OK WITH MAYBE LIKE A CHARCOAL WITH BLACK TRIM. BUT I THINK THE WHITE WAS BLACK TRIM WOULD BE SHARP. YEAH. WELL, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHILE I SAY THAT , YOU KNOW, UH, WE HAVEN'T MADE A DETERMINATION EITHER WAY, BLACK OR WHITE OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE INPUT II. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ULTIMATELY WE'LL PUT OUT A GOOD PRODUCT AND IT'LL LOOK NICE. AND YOU KNOW OUR PASSPORT SHOULD REPRESENT. YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL DO IN THE FUTURE. UM AND SO YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE STILL GOT SOME DESIGN DECISIONS TO MAKE FOR SURE. UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA PASS OUT SOME CLASSY THAT LOOKS NICE IN THE END. ANY OTHER CONCERNS QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT OFF OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING. OK, SO WE WANT A MOTION TO. I WOULD SAY THAT YOU TABLE IT. LET THEM KIND OF GO BACK. AND FINALIZE THEIR DESIGNS . BECAUSE IF YOU APPROVE IT, THEY GO BACK. MAKE DECISIONS MAKE CHANGES. THEN THEY'RE REALLY NOT DOING WHAT WAS APPROVED. OR YOU HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT WAS CORRECT. I DO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTEN ENOUGH DIRECTION. FROM THE BOARD TO GO FORWARD WITH YOUR FINAL PLANS. OK AND THEN BRING THAT BACK. LIKE LIKE FINAL NP ACTUALLY. PICKING A COLOR IS ACTUALLY PICKING THE DOOR SEEING THE DOOR DESIGN AND I DEAL WITH PAINT SAMPLES. OK OK . GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. UH SO THEN HERE'S MY, THEN HERE'S THE QUESTION FOR YOU. IF WE'RE GONNA TABLE THIS, LET'S FIGURE ALL THIS OUT. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THAT GARAGE DOOR WITH YOU KNOW, UH, ALUMINUM COMMERCIAL GRADE WINDOWS. UM YOU KNOW, DO AND THE LITTLE WINDOW ON THE FAR LEFT. UM ARE WE OK WITH YOU KNOW AS LONG AS WE MATCH THE COLOR GLASS WITH WITH WHAT'S THERE FROM THE EXISTING PAINS, AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I CANNOT GET THE SAME SIZE. PAINS UH, THAT THAT CURRENTLY EXIST. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT I'M SEEING UP HERE, THE SMALL WINDOW IS ONE. THE DOOR IS TWO. THAN THREE IS WHERE THE BENCHES ARE. THE FRONT DOOR IS 45 AND SIX SO 34 AND FIVE I CAN GET THOSE SAME SIZE PANES. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK WITH 4 FT. PAINS THERE SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY DIRECTION ON THAT? WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU DO? AND IF THEY'RE REDOING A WINDOW, BUT THEY CAN'T. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MATCH PAINS FROM WAY LONG AGO. WHAT? WHAT DO YOU DO? GLASSES. OH, WE CAN SAY SOMETHING. GLASS IS GLASS, BUT IT'S I WAS GONNA SAY GLASS IS GLASS, BUT HERE. I'M SITTING WITH 1917 GLASS IN MY HOUSE, SO NO, IT'S NOT. THE GLASS IS NOT GLASS. SO WHAT'S THAT? YOU CANNOT PUT THE SAME SIZE WINDOWS IN THERE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I CAN FILL THE HOLES, BUT I CAN ONLY FILL THEM WITH 4 FT. SHE IS FOR SALE. 4 FT. 4 FT 4 FT AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, ONE SOLID PAIN. OH, IS THAT LET'S GO. THAT PICTURE IS GONE. CAUSE NOW THEY'RE BIG PAINS, RIGHT? THEY'RE GREAT. [00:20:02] BIG. YES, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT IS NOT THE SIDE. YES THAT'S NOT THE SIZE OF WHAT'S THERE NOW. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. SO, YOU KNOW. INSTEAD OF IT BEING, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THIS LARGE PANE HERE AND THIS METAL GOING DOWN THE CENTER IS REALLY NOTHING. UM, BUT THERE WOULD BE FOUR, YOU KNOW? I A 4 FT WIDE PIECE, ANOTHER 4 FT WIDE AND ANOTHER 4 FT WIDE AND THEN WE WOULD CARRY THE SAME OVER HERE. 4 FT. 4 FT 4 FT TO FILL THOSE 2 12 FT SPACES. SO IT'S THREE PANES INSTEAD OF TWO. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SIDE BY SIDE? MAY. I JUST THINK YOU PLANS NEED TO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO YOUR PLANS JUST TO RE LIKE THAT, BECAUSE SO WHAT'S SHOWN HERE IS WHAT THE EXISTING ONE DOES LOOK LIKE. ON THE PLANS. OH, NO. SEE, UH SO THIS SHOULD SHOW WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO INSTALL 00. I'M I'M GOOD WITH WHAT I HAVE. OH, YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH WHAT I HAVE. THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS GUYS, YOU GUYS RIGHT? SO THERE'S TWO PAINS NOW. CAN YOU GET TWO PANS? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THREE PAINS. YOU CAN DO TWO. UH NO. I DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO TWO PAINS. WELL, THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT WE NEED TO SEE A PICTURE WITH 23. IS THERE GONNA BE A MEDAL BETWEEN EACH THINGS? SO? SO THE SO MY QUESTION IS DO I NEED TO REPLACE THOSE? THAT'S I THINK UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO YOU'RE ASKING IF YOU THINK IF YOU CAN KEEP THE CURRENT WINDOW IF I KEEP THE WINDOWS, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE CURRENT WINDOWS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REPLACE THAT WE KNOW OF? I WANT TO REPLACE HIM FOR LIKE, ENERGY EFFICIENT OR SOMETHING. OK WERE YOU WERE YOU SAYING THAT THAT WINDOW ON THE FAR LEFT MAY NOT NECESSARILY MATCH? IS THAT WHAT THE QUESTION WAS? IT WILL LOOK, UM IT. IT WILL LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THAT. IT'LL BE A, UM YOU KNOW, I? I DON'T KNOW IN AN ALUMINUM UH, CASING AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S THERE NOW? WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING, WHICH I THINK IS RIGHT HERE SO IT HAS THESE, UM, METAL PIECES RIGHT HERE THAT ACTUALLY GO INTO THE FOUNDATION. I DON'T I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO, BUT, UM THE CONTRACTOR WAS SAYING THAT YOU KNOW THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THERE. THESE YOU KNOW, THESE PIECES THAT ARE PAINTED ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SO IS EVERYBODY OK WITH THE WINDOWS THAT ARE THERE, I. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WINDOWS OVER THERE. I DON'T EITHER. RIGHT, SO WE LEAVE THE WINDOWS AS THEY ARE OK? BUT JUST GET SOME CLAR CLARIFICATION ON ON OUR SIDE AROUND WHAT THE GARAGE DOOR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH THE PAINKILLER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN AND THEN WHAT WINDOW FOR THE SMALL WINDOW TO THE LEFT OF THE DOOR. ARE YOU STILL REPLACING THAT OR YES, WE WOULD UPDATE IT. SO THEN? YEAH, I JUST KIND OF LIKE A PICTURE OF WHAT? THAT ONE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE NEXT TO THE REST OF THEM. OK YEAH, WE CAN HANDLE ALL THAT. THAT'S THE FRONT DOOR. AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO MATCH THAT WITH THE SMALLER DOOR WHAT? WHAT'S YOUR DOORS ARE GONNA APPLY, OK AND THEN WERE THE GARAGE DOOR IS YOU'RE PUTTING. GLASS AND THEN LIKE THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE CAR. THAT'S CARL OVER THINKING ABOUT ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON PUTTING WOOD ON THE OUTSIDE? I MEAN, WE JUST WANNA I WANT TO COVER ALL MY BASES. I WAS GONNA BRING UP A SIGN. THAT IS AN ORDINANCE. WHAT WHAT? WHAT YOU SIGN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE SO THAT SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PLANS. NO PROBLEM LIKE WHERE IS THIS? WHERE WILL THE SIGN GO? AND WHERE? WHERE WILL IT FIT ON THE BUILDING THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. FOUR THINGS CAN YOU DO? CAN YOU DO A MOCK BLAKE OF LIKE YOU HAVE A BLACK PICTURE HERE WHEN YOU DO YOUR PICTURE? CAN YOU DO A WIDE AND A BLACK EXACTLY WITH WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE WANTING, SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET A VISUAL OF BOTH IN COLOR JUST SO WE CAN LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUILDING. YOU WANT TO BUILD I'M WITH YOU. I CAN DO ALL THAT. THAT'S NO PROBLEM. OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? NO NO, THAT'S GREAT. THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE. I APPRECIATE IT AND, UH, COMMENTS SO WE'LL MOCK UP THOSE FOUR THINGS ON THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT WE HAVE AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU GUYS AND SEE WHERE WE GO AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WANT TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS YOU CAN, OR I'M NOT SURE YOU GOT SO MUCH WORK TO DO ON THE INSIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE THE LAST THING THAT WE DO. SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME TIME. [00:25:03] YEAH, JUST GET IT BACK WITH RENEE OR JASON AND THEY'LL GET IT ON THE AGENDA AS SOON AS YOU GET IT BACK TO THEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OK, COOL. WELL, THANK YOU ALL APPRECIATE IT. I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT ITEM, OK? I SECOND IT CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION PASSED. NOW DO WE NEED A WORK SESSION AND I'LL GET BACK ON THE RIGHT PLACE. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OH, I'M SORRY. KEVIN UM, I MEANT TO DO THIS IN THE BEGINNING. WELCOME. AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. UH, NAME IS KEVIN HUGHES LIVED IN WILEY, THIS TIME AROUND FIVE YEARS LIVE OVER IN THE DOMINION. UH, HAVE FOUR KIDS. UH I'M A RETAIL MANAGER. SO UH, MY WIFE OWNS A BUSINESS HERE IN WILEY. SHE HAS THE COUNSELING PRACTICE, SO EXCITED TO BE PART OF IT. LIKE A WELL WELCOME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO HOME. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I NOW, THOUGH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.