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I'M THE PUBLIC ARTS BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:03 P.M. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU TAKE
[Public Arts Advisory Board on April 18, 2024. ]
ROLE OH, I'M SORRY. I NEED TO START THE FIRST PART. THIS IS THE WILEY PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FEBRUARY NO WRONG DATE APRIL 18TH 2024 AND WE ARE READY TO START YOU TAKE A ROLL.I CERTAINLY WILL. ANITA. HERE. KELSEY HERE, GLORIA. ESTHER HERE , STEVE. HERE. AND UH, JOSEPH WAS UNABLE TO COME TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE A QUORUM. THERE IS NO ONE HERE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SO WE WILL GO INTO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. THE FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM IS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE 2024 2025 PHASE THREE WALKING TRAILS, ART OK, IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR, UM PACK IT. UH I'VE GIVEN YOU LOTS OF PHOTOS. UM I HAD SPOKEN WITH TESS, WHO IS, UM SUNNY FIANCE OR WIFE. I'M NOT SURE WHICH AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM SHE'S DOING ALL OF HIS CONCEPTS AND ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH . SO YOU KNOW THAT AT THE BEGINNING WE HAD THE BUFFALO AND THEN WE ARE THE BIAS. AND THEN THEN WE HAD A NATIVE AMERICAN THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO FOR AROUND 85,000 IS WHAT SONY HAD TOLD ME AND, UM I WENT BACK TO HIM, BECAUSE, UM IN THE 17TH CENTURY, THE NATIVE AMERICANS ACQUIRED HORSES, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ACTUALLY STARTED HUNTING BISON. BUT THE COWS WEREN'T NECESSARILY, UM BIG ON BISON. THEY THEY WERE MORE SMALLER ANIMALS. AND SO, UM, WHEN I ASKED HER IF SHE COULD PUT THE NATIVE AMERICAN ON A HORSE BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES THAT DID HUNT THE BISON IN THIS AREA. UM BECAUSE WE HAVE ARTIFACTS BONES FROM THEM, UM SO WHEN I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD DO THAT, UM, SHE ASKED SUNNY AND THEN SHE CAME BACK WITH AN ADDITIONAL PROPOSAL. WHICH IN YOUR POCKET IS FOUND RIGHT AFTER THE QUESTIONNAIRE. AND IT IS A WHITE. TAIL. DEAR. WHICH WAS THE KOS FAVORITE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEY USE TO HIDE. THEY USE THE MEAT. UM THEY USE THE HORNS JUST ALMOST EVERY PART OF THE ANIMAL WAS UTILIZED AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SHE PUT ALONG WITH IT. SOME SYMBOLIZATION OF WHY THE ANIMAL IS WHITE RATHER THAN BRONZE COLORED AND, UM WHAT? THE SYMBOLISM TO THE COLOR AND APPEARANCE AND DISAPPEARANCE. SO, UM WE HAVE CHOICES NOW OF THREE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS. SO THEN I WENT BACK TO HER, AND I ASKED HER IF WE COULD DO THE BISON AND THE DEER AND OMIT THE NATIVE AMERICAN. AND WOULD THAT BE 40,000 DIVIDING THE 80,000? INTO THE NATIVE AMERICAN AND THE BISON. AND THEN THE 80,000 FOR THIS ONE PROPOSAL OF THE DEER AND I WILL READ HER RESPONSE. BEAR WITH ME JUST A MINUTE. WITH THE BISON. I THINK THE TWO D SKETCHES SUNNY INITIALLY PROVIDED ARE PERHAPS A BIT CHALLENGING TO ENVISION A 3D MODEL, BUT THE DESIGN WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE TO THE NEW DEER RENDER. HE PROVIDED A FULL 3D HOLLOW BROWNS ANIMAL WITH PIECES CUT AWAY. THE MOST SIMILAR REFERENCE WOULD BE THE ATTACHED ARTIST, WHICH, UM WAS PART OF A OF A GENTLEMAN LIKE A UM WITH AN ATTACHE CASE, AND HE HAD ONE LEG
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. UH, ONE BOOT. AND THEN THERE WASN'T A LEG AND THEN HIS SUIT AND HIS HEAD KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT. BUT WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY IS THAT ALL THREE OF THESE WOULD BE THE SAME ON BOTH SIDES. BUT HOLLOW INSIDE. SO YOU HAVE A FULL BRONZE. YES WITH CUTOUTS INSIDE AND WITH THE, UM BISON. IT WOULD BE PAINTED ORANGE INSIDE. UM WITH THE DEER IT WOULD BE PAINTED WHITE. UM SO SHE SAID THE FOUNDRY COSTS FOR THE BISON ARE COMING IN AROUND 60 K. BUT THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS THE ENGINEERING BASE, CREATING INSTALLATION THAT SAID, IN ORDER TO GET AN ACCURATE COST. FORECASTING SUNNY WOULD NEED TO CREATE A FULL MARQUETTE.IN TERMS OF THE DEER, THE GOLD HORNS AND ARROWS WOULD BE POLISHED BRONZE AND THEN SEALED SO THAT IT WOULDN'T TARNISH. I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING HERE IS WITH THE WHITE PATINA. IS IT GOING TO LAST AS LONG AS A PLAIN BRONZE WOULD LAST THE AGE. YES UH, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAINTENANCE SITUATION. UM SO, SHE SAYS, IN TERMS OF THE DEER THE, UH GOLD HORNS AND ARROWS WOULD BE POLISHED BRONZE AND THAT SEALED SO THAT IT WOULDN'T TARNISH WITH TIME. THE WHITE PATINA SHOULD LAST WITH THE RIGHT CARE AND MAINTENANCE. BUT AS WITH ALL PATINA IN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENTS, THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT THE THAT THE COLOR WILL SHIFT AND FADE OVER TIME. TO BE ON A SAFER SIDE. WE COULD RATHER OPT FOR A TRADITIONAL BRONZE PATINA WITH A RICH BROWN OR GREEN FINISH, WHICH WOULD LIKELY HAVE GREATER DURABILITY AND WOULD LOOK GREAT WHEN CONTRASTED WITH THE GOLD HORNS, ARROWS AND COLORFUL BASS. UM WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON GETTING A QUOTE FROM ANOTHER FOUNDRY THAT USES A DIFFERENT METHOD TO ENLARGE THE MARQUETTE TO SEE IF THIS WOULD BE A MORE AFFORDABLE OPTION. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU WHEN WE HAVE FEEDBACK. SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST GOT. SO YOU KNOW IN ORIGINALLY I WAS THINKING IF IT WAS 4080, IT WOULD BE 100 AND 20 WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT OR WITHIN THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT. UM BUT NOW IT'S A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE NOT SURE. UM HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST, SO I WANTED TO JUST DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS TONIGHT OF DIFFERENT, UM, CHOICES WHEN THOSE PRICES COME BACK, SO I HAVE SOME IDEA OF HOW YOU'RE LEANING. AND ALSO THERE'S ANOTHER. THERE'S ANOTHER LETTER IN HERE FROM YOU KNOW WHEN WE WERE ASKING ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, UM WE HAD SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE WANTED, UH, CORRECTIONS ON. AND UH, WHAT WOULD THE APPROXIMATE WEIGHT OF THE SCULPTURE BEING NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BISON. AND SHE SAID 2 TO £300, SO THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE IN THE WIND. UM THE NATIVE AMERICANS STARTED HUNTING BISON. UH, THIS IS ABOUT THE HORSEBACK NOTED FEEDBACK ABOVE AND NEW DESIGN. ONE WITH THE SCULPTURE LOOK LIKE FROM THE BACK AND SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ANSWERED. THAT QUESTION IS THE BRONZE AND PATINA 40 OR 60% SHE WASN'T SURE WHAT I MEANT. BUT I WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH BRONZE THERE WAS AND HOW MUCH SPACE SO WE CAN ASK AGAIN WHEN IT GETS CLOSER. THE SCULPTURES ARE AMAZING, AND THE BOARD IS VERY EXCITED. WHAT WOULD THE TIMELINE BE FOR 2025? AND SHE SAID YES.
THAT TIMELINE WOULD WORK. SO THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD SO EXCUSE ME, UM WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE SCULPTURES AND OF THE DEER I LOVE THE WHITE DEER. I THINK I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL DEER. THE DEER THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I THINK IT'S DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE. BUT I DO. HAVE SOME CONCERN OVER THE UNKNOWN MAINTENANCE OF IT. WELL, IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER PATINA. UM IF IT WERE IN BRONZE WITH ACCENTS ON IT, UH, WHITE OR
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WHATEVER, UM, IT WOULD BE THE SAME. YOU KNOW, I UM, BOTH OF THESE PIECES AT EITHER END ARE BRONZE AND PATINA AND THE, UM PARKS DEPARTMENT COLD WAXES THOSE EVERY SIX MONTHS, SO THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE THE SAME. WHAT SHE IS SAYING THAT, UM WITH THE WHITE IT WOULD, UM NOT PROBABLY LAST QUITE AS LONG, BUT WE DO HAVE FUNDING. UM FOR REP PATINA WHEN WE NEED TO DO THAT. ALL OF THE PIECES. UM, FOR INSTANCE, UM THE TETRO 19 THAT THE AT, UH, THEATRE. UM, IT IS 14 YEARS SINCE WE HAD THAT BRONZED WHEN WE ARE, UM YEAH, BRONZED. WHEN WE MOVED IN. IT WAS COMPLETELY BLACK. AND THEY, UM, A GENTLEMAN REPAPERED IT FOR US, AND IT'S IT LOOKS THE SAME AS IT DID THE DAY . THEY REPINED IT SO IT THE MAINTENANCE IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF. BUT, UM, SHE'S JUST SAYING IT MIGHT FADE A LITTLE BIT. MORE THAN IF IT WAS JUST BROADS. I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. I LOVE IT. UH, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I LOVE IT. BACK TO WHAT ESTHER BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING WITH THE BISON IS THE DURABILITY IF WE PUT IT OUT ON THE TRAILS, LOOKING AT THE WAY THE ARROWS AND STUFF ARE SET UP. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO BARRICADE AROUND IT TO KEEP KIDS FROM? CLIMBING ON IT AND TEARING THINGS UP. WELL WHAT? UM WHAT SHE SAID IS EVERYTHING WILL BE, UM FILE DOWN THERE WON'T BE ANY SHARP EDGES AT ALL. I'M WORRIED MORE ABOUT IF A KID TRIES TO USE THAT ARROW AS A STEPPING LADDER TO CLIMB UP ON THE DEER, WE BEND THE ARROW. WE BREAK PIECES OF THE SCULPTURE ITSELF AND THE BISON, TOO. IF IT ONLY WEIGHS £200. WILL IT BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND KIDS USING IT LIKE A LADDER AND A BIG TOY LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME OR WOULD WE NEED TO PUT SOME KIND OF A KEEP OFF SIGNS AND CHAINS AROUND IT OR SOMETHING TO PROTECT IT FROM BEING USED AS BIG TOY BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HAPPEN. I WOULD CLIMB ON IT. YEAH UM, WHAT WE DO WITH MOST OF THE SCULPTURES LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE OUT AT COMMUNITY PARK AND, UM YEAH. COMMUNITY PARK IS WE PUT SIGNS OUT THERE THAT ASK PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, NOT TO CLIMB. ON THE SCULPTURES, AND I'M SURE THAT THAT PROBABLY TAKES CARE OF ABOUT 65% OF KIDS. UM I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF KIDS WITHOUT PARENTS BACK THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. IF, UH IF IT BECOMES MHM.I THOUGHT YOU REALLY HE'S REALLY DYNAMIC. HE IS. YEAH. CAN WE STEP BACK? I KNOW YOU SAID WE HAD THE MONEY FOR THE 120. DO. WE NEED TO SPEND IT ON NOW? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOSE IT IF WE DON'T OR I GUESS YOU KNOW TO ME. UH I HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUFFALO ALSO, AND, UH, TO WHAT DEGREE DID DID THEY ROAM IN TEXAS? AND UH, I GUESS THEY WERE HERE BUT BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID.
IT SEEMS THAT MAYBE THE CATTLE DIDN'T REALLY, UH THEY WENT NORTH TO SMALL, SMALLER MAMMALS AND DEER. AND SO, I, I GUESS THAT, UM AND MAYBE YOU DISCUSSED THIS LAST MONTH. I KNOW I WASN'T HERE. BUT DO WE NEED TO DO ALL THREE PIECES? PARDON DO WE NEED TO DO ALL THREE PIECES? THE BUFFALO THE DEER AND THE AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN. I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME HEARING. LET ME COME DOWN. ASKING ALL THREE JUST TO WELL, IF THE BOARD WANTED TO DO ALL THREE PIECES, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THEM IN YEARLY SEGMENTS. WE COULDN'T DO THEM ALL AT ONCE. OK SO YOU'RE SAYING WE WOULD, UH, DO TWO PIECES? SEE 80,000 THAT WE BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR AND THEN THE FOLLOWING, UH, FISCAL YEAR. WE COULD DO THE THIRD PIECE, DEPENDING ON, UM HOW THE COST COMES DOWN. IF THE COST COMES OUT THAT HE WAS INACCURATE WITH THE 80,000 WHEN HE PROPOSED THE FIRST TWO, AND NOW HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY THAT EACH ONE IS GONNA BE 70,000. THEN WE'LL HAVE TO DO YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO UH HUH. ARE PUT OUT A CALL FOR ARTISTS. UM BUT WE COULD DO THE DEER BECAUSE
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THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO THE DEER FOR THE BUDGET. THAT'S THE 80. INDIVIDUALLY EXCLUDING THE BISON AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN. OH, WOW! OR OR WE COULD DO THE 60 GRAND 80 ALMOST 7 FT. TALL. IT'S THE E 82 INCHES. I COME FROM YOU GOT THEM THAT BIG TAKE IT. YEAH I HAD 6 FT. IN TEXAS. YOU GUYS HAVE SQUAT HERE. AND THE BISON WAS GOING TO THEY'RE ALL GONNA THEY WERE ALL GOING TO BE LIFE SIZE. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM AS AS EACH PERSON GIVES THEIR COMMENTS. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE FIRST? ARE YOU INTERESTED IN ANY OF THE OTHER TWO THAT YOU DON'T CHOOSE? UM HOW DO YOU SEE THIS? I REALLY LIKE ALL OF THEM. MY FAVORITE IS THE DEER. BUT I LOVE THEM ALL. SO I PERSONALLY, I WOULD DO, UH, DEER. INDIAN BISON. JUST BECAUSE I THINK THE NATIVE KIND OF REACHES BACK TOWARDS THE CATO PEOPLE, AND THEN THE BISON WOULD COME IN TOWARDS THE END AND FIT WELL WITH EVERYTHING, BUT I LIKE THE DEER AND THE DEER SEEMS MORE MORE TO THE AREA. OK? SO YOU'RE SAYING THE NATIVE AMERICAN NECESSARILY WOULDN'T NEED TO BE PART OF THE ONGOING PROJECTS. I.I LIKE IT. THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE NATIVE AMERICAN AND THE DEER IS THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING OR SHE WAS SAYING YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE NATIVE AMERICANS DIDN'T HUNT BISON UNTIL THEY COULD HAVE HORSES SO. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT IS THAT I WOULD I WHILE THE DEER I THINK WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL STAND ALONE PIECE . I THINK THAT FOR, UH, IF FOR AT THE VERY LEAST, CONTEXT. WE WOULD NEED THE NATIVE AMERICAN. UH AS WELL SO I. I PERSONALLY AM VOTING NATIVE AMERICAN AND DEER. THE SO DO THE DEAR ONE YEAR AND DO THE NATIVE AMERICAN THE NEXT YEAR. HE DO THE NATIVE AMERICAN FIRST JUST TO KEEP THE CONTEXT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DEER AND YOU HAVE THE THEN YOU DO THE DEER. OK UM, WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO WAS PLACE THE ANIMAL.
WITHIN DISTANCE OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS. SO IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS A KIND OF A MOTION THING. SO IF THE NATIVE AMERICAN IS THERE BEFORE THE DEER WILL THAT MAKE SENSE? ONE. JUST LOOK LIKE HE'S IN SHOT GOING ACROSS THE PRAIRIE . I THOUGHT HE WOULD LOOK COOL BY MYSELF LIKE THAT, TO ME, EITHER. ONE WOULD WORK WELL AS A STAND ALONE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DEER WITH ARROWS ON THE GROUND NEXT TO IT. YOU NEED TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THE ARROWS CAME FROM, OR A PERSON WHERE THE ARROWS CAME FROM, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONTEXT. BE NOW. IF WE HAVE TO. YEAR FIRST NATIVE AMERICAN SECOND. OK IN MY OPINION, LET ME THROW ANOTHER THING INTO THE MIX. UM HOW DO I PUT THIS? UM THERE WERE SOME, UM THERE WAS A COMMENT, UM WHEN ARE SELECTION MEMBER SENT OUT THE PHOTOS, ONE OF HIS BOARD MEMBERS WHO IS CATTLE. UM, CALLED THE CITY MANAGER. UM STATING THAT SHE DIDN'T THINK THE IMAGE OF THE CATO WAS CATTLE. SO, UM IF WE DO THAT, IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE A CATO. I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER. BETTER TO SAY THESE TRIBES. USE THIS LAND. AND HUNTED. THE DEER PRODUCT. VARIOUS TRIBES BECAUSE THERE WERE I THINK HE, UM JAMIE GAVE ME LIKE THREE TRIBES THAT WERE IN THIS AREA. THEY DIDN'T FIND ANY ARTIFACTS EXCEPT FOR THE
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CATS, BUT, UM, THEY DID. BRANCH IN THIS AREA. SO THE ASSUMPTION THEN IS THAT CO WAS THE PREDOMINANT TRIBE IN THIS AREA, OR ARE WE JUST GONNA SAY THEY WERE ONE OF MANY NOW? THEY WERE.THEY WERE PROBABLY THE PREDOMINANT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE FOUND ARTIFACTS ON. BUT BUT WE CAN'T SAY THAT THEY WERE THE PREDOMINANT FOR SURE, BECAUSE WE REALLY THE PREDOMINANT THAT THAT STAYED HERE YEAR ROUND. I'M GUESSING THEY WERE MIGRATORY TRIBES THAT MOVED WITH THE BUFFALO HERDS. AND THEN AGAIN, WE GO BACK TO THE HISTORY THE HISTORY OF THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE. SO WE'RE NOT DOING THE HISTORY OF THE CATTLE TRIBES.
WE'RE DOING THE HISTORY OF THE BLACK LAND. PRAIRIE. YEAH. THE ORIGINAL MHM. YEAH. OK? I REALLY LIKE THE DEER. MOST OF THE THREE AND I AGREE. I THINK THE DEER FIRST WOULD BE BEST AND THEN FOLLOWED UP BY THE LIKE YOU SAID , BUT CREATING THAT CONTEXT WITH THE INDIAN THERE. UM AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOT LABELING IT AS ANY SPECIFIC TRIBE. BUT JUST A REPRESENTATION OF WHO AND WHAT WAS GOING ON HERE? YEAH. I. I, UH DITTO TO WHAT CANCER SAID. 3 100. SO I'M PROBABLY THE REBEL IN THE ROOM. I THINK THAT THE NATIVE AMERICAN MAKES SENSE FIRST BECAUSE HE'S HUNTING AND THEN SUDDENLY, THE DEER SHOWS UP. AND SO THEN THERE'S A DEER. YES HE'S BEEN HUNTING. HE'S HUNGRY. THERE'S HE'S YOU'VE GOTTA HUNT FOR A WHILE BEFORE YOU FIND THINGS. UM WELL, I, I THINK I JUST THINK, BECAUSE THE DEER HAS THE ARROWS LIKE WHERE DID THE ARROWS COME FROM? IF THE DEER SHOWS UP WITH JUST THE ARROWS, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. BUT BUT I DO LOVE IT. YOU I ALSO I AM CURIOUS OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN JUST BRONZE. JUST MHM. KIND OF TO TIE IN WITH THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S THERE. THAT'S JUST MY CURIOSITY. IT DOES LOOK CHRISTMAS. UM BUT I LOVE THE DEER LIKE IN THE GOLD ANTLERS, I THINK IS REALLY COOL. SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. I'M THE REBEL. I THINK THE GOLD ANTLERS ARE NOT GOING TO POP, IF YOU WILL. UH, THE SAME WAY. IF THE REST OF IT WAS BRONZE. I THINK THE WAY REALLY SETS OFF THE GOLD ANTLERS . SO YOU PREFER THE WHITE? YEAH. WELL WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH A, UM A SKETCH OF THE BRONZE SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT BOTH AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK. UM IF IT HAS TO BE PATINA A LITTLE MORE OFTEN, THAT'S OK TOO. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT , UM WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF FUNDING TO TAKE CARE OF THE BRONZE WHEN WE NEED TO RE PATINA THEM. AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ARTISTS THAT PROVIDED THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO IT, THEN WE CAN GET, UM THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID THE HURT PIECE OUT OF DALLAS TO DO IT. YEAH I HAD ONE QUESTION IF THE BI THE BISON WAS NOT INCLUDED WOULD IS THE ORANGE PAINTED INSIDE THE INDIAN. IS THAT SET OR WOULD THERE BE OPTION TO MATCH YOU LIKE DO FOR THE DEER? TO DO ARE THE BISON.
HUH? YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT TO BE WHITE ON THE INSIDE OR ANYTHING. YOU DON'T WANT TO. MHM MATCH OR ANYTHING WITH THE MATCHING THE DEER KIND OF THING. YEAH I IT'S JUST A QUESTION, IF THERE WOULD BE ANY ALTERATIONS TO THAT, SINCE IT WOULDN'T IF THE BISON WASN'T IN THERE ANYMORE. LET ME LET ME POST THAT AS A QUESTION TO THEM AND GET THEIR OPINION ON WHICH WAY THEY THINK IT MIGHT.
YEAH IT JUST WHAT I WAS SEEING. IT SAYS IT'S AN INTERACTIVE SCULPTURE. SO JUST THE THOUGHT OF IF THEY DON'T IF THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY GO TO GET I MEAN, THEY WILL, BUT THEY WON'T WON'T LOOK AS COHESIVE. IT'S JUST MY THOUGHT, AND I REALLY LIKE THE BISON BECAUSE IT HAS SO MUCH MOVEMENT. YEAH. OK IF WE REMEMBER IT, STEVE BROUGHT THIS UP. UM HE DID THE ORANGE BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT TO LOOK LIKE THEY WERE ON FIRE AND BURNING AWAY LIKE IT WAS BEING LOST IN TRADITION, SO THAT WITH THE CONTEXT OF THAT WITH IT, I LIKE I LIKE THE ORANGE. AND STAYING BECAUSE IT IT IS. IT DOES HAVE A NEAT STATEMENT ON WHAT'S BEING LOST TO JUST THE PASSAGE OF TIME. SO BUT THAT'S JUST JUST SOMETHING TO DO. I THINK IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT'S WHY HE
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HAD IT IN ORANGE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE BISON. NO LONGER IS IN EXISTENCE EXCEPT IN PRIVATE RANCHES. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN KILLED. UM SO IT WAS KIND OF THE MOVEMENT. WAS IT RUNNING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE SOMETHING FROM THE PAST. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WELL UH, ONE OTHER THING. SORRY THAT I WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THAT WAS THAT THE ARROWS ON THE DEAR, ARE GOLDEN AND SO MAYBE HE COULD JUST DO INCORPORATE GOLDEN ARROWS, THEN WITH THE INDIAN JUST TO AGAIN ADD THAT COOKIE. SO A COORDINATES. YEAH. I GIVE THE HUNTER A GOLDEN ARROW TO TIE IT IN. GOOD GOOD POINT. WE? WE DID SOMETHING GOOD. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. OVER. OK SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, JUST SEND ME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OR PROPOSALS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY WANT THE FIRST AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN SECOND. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? OK UM, BUT QUESTIONS ABOUT DURABILITY.UM COLOR ALL OF THAT. AND THEN I WILL SEND THOSE OVER TO TESS. AND GET A RESPONSE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. I THINK, UM, THAT THE FOUNDRY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO AND I REALLY WHEN WE DID THE PIECE OUT AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING OF THE FIREMEN AND THE POLICE OFFICER, UM THAT WAS A FAIRLY NEW ARTIST AND HE DID THE CLAY MODEL. AND THEN IN LIFE SIZE AND THEN TOOK THE CLAY MODELS TO THE FOUNDRY. TO CAST IN BRONZE. THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING HER IS THAT HE'S GOING TO DO A MARQUETTE, A FULL MARQUETTE. BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S DOING A FULL SIZE OR IF HE'S ASKING THE FOUNDRY TO DO THE FULL SITE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STARTS WITH CLAY.
MEASURES. WELL, IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE IF THE ARTIST DOESN'T DO THE CLAY. WE COULD SAVE SOME MONEY. AND IF HE'S JUST DOING A SMALL MARQUETTE AND ASKING THE FOUNDRY TO DO THE CLAY AND THEN DO THE BRONZE I. I WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT MAY BE WHERE A LOT OF THIS COST IS.
IF HE DOESN'T PROVIDE THAT. CAROL I'M RETRACTING MY REQUEST FOR BRONZE. I'M THINK I AFTER LISTENING TO MY FELLOW PARTNERS HERE, I AGREE WITH THE WHITE DO WHAT? I'M RETRACTING MY REQUEST FOR CONSIDERING IT IN BRONZE. OK YEAH, I KEEP IT IN WHITE. OK? THANK YOU. YOU MADE IT A LOT CLEARER FOR ME. SO I WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH COST FOR THE NATIVE AMERICAN, THE BISON. AND CONFIRM THAT THE DEER IS 80. AND I HATE TO KEEP HARPING ON IT, BUT THE DURABILITY UH HUH. UH, LOOKING AT THE DEER, PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT EARLIER . THE ARROWS THE WAY THAT THOSE ARE SET AND JUST THE BITS LIKE THE SPLASHES AROUND THE ARROWS AND ALL THE LITTLE BITS THAT ARE HANGING OFF THE DEER AND ON THE NATIVE AMERICAN ITSELF. HOW BENDABLE WILL THOSE BE? THAT'S MY BIG ISSUE. IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT I MEAN. IS IT GONNA BE CAN SOMEBODY JUST REACH UP THERE AND GO? ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW? OH, I BREAK IT. YEAH. YEAH WITH IF THEY USE THEIR FOOT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. NOT JUST BEND IT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. JUST CURIOUS. MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER TWO DISCUSSION REGARDING THE WALKING TRAILS FACE TO BY YOSHI, RIGHT? OK? EXCUSE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE.
WHAT. I WOULD. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH UM YOSHI, UH, HE DID, UH,
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DO HIS ENGINEERING PLANS WHICH ARE BEFORE YOU AND YOUR PACKET. AND UM, APPARENTLY, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, AS IS AT EIGHT INCH LEVELS, THEY'RE GOING TO COMPACT THE SOIL. BUT THERE ARE ALSO USING CONCRETE AND, UM, THIS LANDSCAPE. GRASS PAPERS. AND SO IT HAS BEEN THROUGH OUR CITY ENGINEER. AND EVERYBODY IS OK WITH IT. SO HE HAS BEEN PAID HIS, UM, SECOND PAYMENT. RIGHT? UM THEN HE SENT ME A NOTE IT, SAYS CAROL, SO HE ALWAYS SAYS CAROL, SO ENCLOSED OR TWO SAMPLE STONES. I'VE BEEN STUDYING A MODEL AND DECIDED THAT I WANT TO HAVE THE SMOKE COLUMN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT HUE OF STONE. I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE THE SMOKE COLUMN FROM THE BASE STONE, WHICH REPRESENTS FIRE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DIFFERENCE IS SUBTLE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF YOU WET THE STONES. YOU CAN SEE MORE OF A CONTRAST I'VE MARKED THE BACK OF THE STONES. T IS FOR TEXAS LIMESTONE AND I IS FOR INDIAN LIMESTONE. THIS IS THE INDIAN LIMESTONE. AND THIS IS THE TEXAS LIMESTONE SO THIS WOULD BE THE SMOKE, SO YOU WANT TO PASS IT AROUND. YEAH. YOU. YEAH.SO EVERYONE'S OK WITH THAT. UH THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOSHI. UM HE'S WORKING ON HIS SCULPTURES NOW. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER THREE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE 2024 BLUEGRASS ON BALLARD WOO. WE HAVE A 63 APPLICATIONS. THE APPLICATIONS ARE COMING IN SLOWER THIS YEAR.
I THINK WITH THE HEAT LAST YEAR, WE'VE LOST SOME OF OUR VENDORS. AND SO, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY HIT 100. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THAN 100 WILL HIT BY THE END OF IT. UM UM, BUT THERE IS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT MOVING IT NEXT YEAR. SO PERHAPS THAT WILL HAPPEN. WHAT DID THEY WHAT DID THEY SUGGESTING AS FAR AS DIFFERENT DATES? WHAT ARE THEY SUGGESTING AS FAR AS DIFFERENT DATES? WHAT MY HEARING IS SO BAD. WHAT TIME OF YEAR THEY I DON'T KNOW. I AM. I'M NOT SURE.
IT WAS JUST KIND OF A PASSING COMMENT, SO IT HASN'T HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON OUR LANDS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE GOOD. WELL ERIC CALL. UH IT'S TWO SUMMERS IN A ROW THAT IT WAS 100 DEGREES. YEAH. MY RECOLLECTION. WE COULD ALWAYS DO. UH, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER BEER FEST. IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE UP TO, UM, THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS.
BECAUSE IT'S THEIR EVENT. BUT, UM I'M I'M THINKING MAYBE THE SPONSORSHIPS ARE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT LESS TOO. MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I'M JUST GUESSING. OK THAT'S ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS FOR EVENTS. OK UM CRAIG JUST SENT OVER THE LOGOS TODAY. FOR UM, FOR STEVE, SO HE HAS ABSOLUTELY
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HAD NO TIME TO WORK ON IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THAT FOR THIS MEETING. NO, I'VE I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES, AND HE FINALLY SENT THE LOGOS AND HE DID SAY THAT. YOU COULD DO THEM IN WHITE. I GUESS NOW WE WILL GO INTO THE BUSINESS ITEMS THE ONLY ITEM ON THE BUSINESS AGENDA IS CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF 3 21 2024. I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES AS THEY ARE A SECOND. THE MOTION MASSY. DID YOU SECOND HIM? UH, ANITA. I WAS LOOKING DOWN AT MY PAPERS.NO RESULTS ARE COMING UP. WE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T HAD A OH, OK, THERE WE GO. MM. OK, SO WE HAVE 60. YEAH. THE VOTE PASSES. 60. IS. DOES SOMEONE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION SECONDED. WHO DID A MOTION IN A SECOND. HE SECONDED. JOHN AND YOU I'M EMOTION. THIS ONE. 60. THE MOTION PASSES WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD. WE ARE ADJOURNING AT 640.
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