Apr 17, 2024 Planning and Zoning

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OK I CALLED TO ORDER THE WILEY PLANT ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING 16TH 2024 6 P.M. UH GO

[CALL TO ORDER]

[CONSENT AGENDA]

[1. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Lot 1, Block A of North Wylie Plaza for the development of a multitenant commercial office use on 0.912 acres. Property located at 2455 FM 1378.]

[2. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan amendment for Lot 3R, Block B of Freddy’s Addition for the expansion of an exciting structure for a drive-through restaurant use on 1.074 acres. Property located at 2806 W FM 544.]

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OK? ANY MORE QUESTIONS. IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN EMOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED I'LL SECOND IS ABOUT. THAT PASSES 70. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE. CONSIDER AND

[3. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan to function as a development plan for Lots 1-8, Block A of Ladylike Addition on 19.726 acres generally located north of 801 North State Highway 78.]

TOGETHER. YES HERE WE HAVE, UH WHAT? WE'RE CALLING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF EIGHT COMMERCIAL LOTS. THIS IS REALLY JUST A CATALYST TO BEGIN THE FIRST PHASE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. THE DEVELOPERS REALLY JUST PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT THIS FIRE LANE IT WHICH IS SHOWN RIGHT NOW ON THE SCREEN, THE ONLY WAY THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THESE

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THEY WANT TO PUT IN ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK. OF GETTING THOSE PUT IN. BEFORE UH THEY HAVE ACTUAL END USERS AND, UM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THAT UM, SPECIFICALLY, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING. THIS ROUTE IS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. JUST THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND THEN EACH ONE OF THESE PAD SITES WILL COME BACK ON THEIR OWN FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BY P AND Z. SO THE SITE PLAN.

I'LL CALL IT THAT MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST TERM DEVELOPMENT PLAN. ON THE SECOND PAGE AFTER THE INTRO. THAT'S JUST HEY, HERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT MAY CHANGE THAT MAY CHANGE. THE ONLY THING THAT'S BASED ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS GONNA BE PUTTING IN. UM, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IT'S ON THE OTHER PAGE. CAN YOU SHOW THAT OTHER ONE? KEVIN THAT ONE RIGHT THERE IS THE PAD SITES UP FACING 78. ARE THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH GONNA BE SET IN. I DON'T WANT TO SAY SET IN STONE , BUT YOU KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE, UH, MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP AS SHOWN EVERYTHING BEHIND THAT. IS, UM, STILL UP IN THE AIR. INS ARE PROVING ANY TYPE OF USE OTHER THAN NOT APPROVING ANY KIND OF USE EXCEPT WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT AND AS I SAID, THEY'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SO THEY WOULD BE DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. JUST SO I'M CLEAR WHAT ABOUT THE, UH THE TURNING LANES. IN THE BRAKE LANES ON 78. WOULD THAT BE PART OF IT? BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING CIVIL PLANS? YES. SO A TECH STOCK HAVE TO APPROVE THAT. YEAH, THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TEXTILE APPROVAL ON THOSE AND THE STUFF ON BROWN. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BROWN.

RIGHT. THAT'S BROWN THAT OTHER STREET THE OTHER STREET WOULD BE BROWN. THAT'S BROWN IS CITY. BUT THAT ALSO LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME TURNING LANES AND SOME STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. UH I BELIEVE JUST THE FRONTAGE FOR 78 IS GOING TO BE DONE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. IN FACT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE TURN LANES ARE ON THE SITE PLAN OR ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHERE IT DIPS IN RIGHT THERE. AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT THE COWS THAT ARE THERE NOW. THEY'RE GOING SOMEWHERE SPECIAL. WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE ON THE BACK PART OF THAT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR KEVIN, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE. BUT FOR THE APPLICANT IF NEEDED. OK, SO BASICALLY, WE COULD POTENTIALLY APPROVE THIS. AS PRESENTED WITH CONDITIONS. IF THEY WERE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT OR MAJOR CHANGES. WHAT'S ON THERE NOW. AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY GET READY THEY COME BACK. TO US. THE INDIVIDUAL SITE PLANS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. ONE. UM I DON'T I MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE A CONDITION BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT. IS THAT PAGE RIGHT THERE. SO AND IF ENGINEERING DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS A FEW FEET HERE AND THERE OR YOU KNOW, UH, IF A RADIUS NEEDS TO BE EXPENDED GENERALLY, BUT IF IT DOESN'T COME OUT LOOKING LIKE THAT, WHEN, WHEN WE GET THE CIVIL PLANS, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK. OK, THANK YOU. ANY

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WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT. SO PLEASE COME UP AND SORRY. AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. MY NAME IS SANDRA BRASWELL. AND MY ADDRESS IS 207 DOUGLAS DRIVE, WILEY. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A SHORT HISTORY A VERY SHORT. DON'T WORRY, UM, 37.5 YEARS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND I HAD A DREAM OF BUYING A HOME OF OUR OWN. WE WERE ADOPTING AND WANTED TO SETTLE SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF BUSY PLANO. WE BELIEVE GOD LED US TO OUR CURRENT HOME. YOU SEE, WE HAD VERY LITTLE MONEY TO BACK THAT DREAM. BUT GOD MADE A WAY. THIS HOME IS WHERE WE BROUGHT OUR BABY BOY, AND I SWORE I WASN'T GONNA GET EMOTIONAL IN THIS, BUT I'M LIKE, UM, BUT ALSO THE PLACE. MY HUSBAND TOOK HIS LAST BREATH. TO THIS ISSUE AT BUILDING I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLAN RIGHT NOW. THAT I'M JUST SPEAKING ABOUT A BUILDING FACING BROWN WOULD BE A DISASTER. WE NOW HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL AT 1245 YOU BEST NOT BE ON THAT ROAD. ON BROWN, BECAUSE WHEN THEY GET OUT OF WHEN THEY GET OUT FOR LUNCH, THEY HEAD STRAIGHT OUT THERE AT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY MILES AN HOUR I'VE WALKED OVER TO RACETRACK AND GOT ALMOST GOTTEN PLOWED DOWN BEFORE SEVERAL TIMES, BUT, UM UM WHERE I LIVE ON, DOUGLAS, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT THE ALLEY, TURN RIGHT AND MAKE A U-TURN TO COME AROUND TO COME DOWN BROWN TO GET TO 78. AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ALLEY AROUND THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT THE POINT IS RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, IF YOU GET IN THAT LEFT TURN LANE TO MAKE THAT U TURN. YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE BEHIND YOU HONKING AT YOU GIVING YOU HAND SIGNALS, AND IT'S NOT HIGH AND CUSSING YOU OUT, AND I MEAN BECAUSE THEY GET LIVID BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A HURRY TO GET TO THE HIGH SCHOOL OR WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING. AND OUR STREET IN GENERAL ON DOUGLAS IS VERY BUSY BECAUSE PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THERE TO GO TO, UH, KRAMER ESTATE. NOW. PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THE ENTRANCE AND EXITS OFF AND ON TO BROWN FROM WHATEVER Y'ALL PLAN TO DO THAT FACES BROWN. THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND I THOUGHT, THAT'S WHY THEY THEY TURNED DOWN THE TOWN HOMES BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC WHEN THEY WERE PRESENTED, BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE REASON I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS THE PROBLEM. AND PLUS WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN I WALK OUT MY FRONT DOOR AND LOOK TO MY LEFT. NOW I SEE FIELD AND COWS AND NOW I'M GOING TO SEE CONCRETE NOW SOME CONCRETE YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA SEE . AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S PLANS TO PUT TREES AND SHRUBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. BUT YOU CAN'T HUNT CONCRETE. YOU JUST CAN'T HIDE IT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK AND BEG YOU PEOPLE TO RECONSIDER ENTRANCE AND EXITS ONTO BROWN BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. I DON'T WORK ANYMORE. I'M RETIRED, BUT MY SON DOES, AND HE HAS TO FIGHT THE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING, AND IT'S JUST NOT FUN, AND IT'S I MEAN, WE HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES BECAUSE THERE'S A FIRE DEPARTMENT UP ON BROWN AND WE HAVE THOSE COMING DOWN, TOO. AND IT'S JUST IT'S JUST NOT GOOD. I MEAN, NEVER BEFORE IN THE 37.5 YEARS HAVE I FELT LIKE I NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE. I JUST NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS CITY BECAUSE I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE 6000 PEOPLE WHEN WE MOVED HERE, AND IT'S OVER 60,000 NOW AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T STOP TRYING TO CUT YOU OFF. WE HAD TO. WE JUST GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES. I'M NOT TRYING TO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO JUST TONIGHT. ALL WE BASICALLY ALLOWING THEM TO DO IS THAT FIRE LAY SO ONCE ONCE. IF THIS GOES FORWARD BEYOND THAT. A SITE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO COME FORWARD. AND I HEAR YOUR YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT BROWN. I'VE I. I EXPERIENCED THAT TOO. I. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO NOTHING IN REGARDS TO IT. AN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT BEYOND THE FIRE LANE IS BEING APPROVED. SO AT THE END OF WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE IN A YEAR, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES THAT MAY NOT EVEN HAPPEN. THERE MAY NOT EVEN BE AN ENTRANCE NEXT ON BROWN. SO NONE OF THAT IS BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT. OK? SO I, I I'M THAT I'M EXPLAINING JUST TRYING TO I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. SO II. I MEAN, THIS IS ALL PRETTY MUCH A SHOCK TO ME TO START OFF WITH, BUT HOW

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AGAIN NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS, YOU CAN IF NOT SINCE NOBODY'S GETTING UP. UH, THAT UM IF NOT, I WILL. IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, FOR THE APPLICANT OR UM IT, KEVIN. ENTERTAIN EMOTION. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE AGENDA ITEM. BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD ABOUT CONCERNS. THE FUTURE.

BUT AS IS I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. YOU GOT A MOTION? SECOND MOTION. AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

AND IT PASSES 70. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A

[4. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural District (AG/30) to Planned Development (PD-MF) for an age restricted condominium residential community on 47.374 acres. Property located on the west side of Country Club Road approximately 2000’ south of Parker Road (ZC 2024-02). ]

SO UM, WHAT WE DO WE SPECIFICALLY BUILD AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES ONLY FOR ACTIVE ADULTS. SO THE FEDERAL HOUSING LAW FOR AGE RESTRICTION IS AS LONG AS 80% OF OUR CENSUS IS OVER 55. WE CAN LET PEOPLE UNDER 55 IN AS LONG AS THEY ABIDE BY OUR DEED RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STANDPOINT NOT HAVING ANY KIDS. STAYING THERE. SO IT IS, UH, IT IS AN AGE RESTRICTED,

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WE DEVELOP EVERYTHING IN A CONDO STYLE. WHOA! IT'S WEIRD, DIFFERENT THE RIDING CAME OUT DIFFERENTLY ANYWAY. UM WE DO EVERYTHING IN A CONDOMINIUM STYLE. IT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH WHAT? WHAT AGE RESTRICTED. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR ACTIVE ADULTS. UH, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR BIG YARDS. THEY'RE PAST THAT STAGE IN LIFE. WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS A PLACE THAT THEY CAN, UH, ENTERTAIN WITH A COUPLE OF FRIENDS. THEY CAN, UM THEY CAN BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR DOG RUN IN THEIR PRIVATE YARD. UH AND BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEMSELVES OF THE SAME AGE, SAME LIFESTYLE, SAME THING. THAT IS THE THING THAT WE'RE NOTED FOR IS THAT WE? WE UH, DEVELOP A LIFESTYLE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE HAVE AN IN HOUSE, UH, LIFESTYLE COORDINATOR NOW THAT WORKS WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND HELPS SET THEM UP. UH THEY HAVE A GREAT TIME IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IN FACT, WE KIND OF HAVE A SAYING THAT THEY COME IN TO CHECK OUT THE LIFESTYLE AND THEY HAPPEN TO PICK UP A HOUSE ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR. UH THEY FIND OUT THAT MEN ARE GONNA BE IN A COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE JUST LIKE THEMSELVES AT THE STAGE IN LIFE WHERE THEY'RE DONE WITH THE POOL. THEY'RE DONE WITH THE YARD. THEY THEIR KIDS HAVE GRADUATED. THEY'RE INTO THEIR THEIR GRAND BABIES. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE RETIRED YET, AND THEY WANNA LIVE A LIFESTYLE THAT THEY CAN ENJOY THEMSELVES. IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY. THEREFORE IT'S LOCK AND LEAVE, AND THEREFORE A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE AND CAREFUL HOW YOU USE THE WORD OR TRANSIENT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY LIKE TO LEAVE AND GO OUT OF TOWN ON TRIPS. WHEN THEY COME BACK, AND THEY LIKE THE SECURE FEELING OF KNOWING THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK, EVERYTHING'S OK. AND THEY GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYTHING FOR THEM. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. IT'S GONNA ENTER RIGHT IN OFF OF COUNTRY CLUB. OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE PROPERTY TAKES IN MONROE LAKE. WE WON'T BE UTILIZING ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL IN FLOODPLAIN AREA. WE WILL ONLY BE UTILIZING THAT AS A PRIVATE TRAIL SYSTEM. UH FOR THE HOMEOWNERS DOWN TO THE LAKE. UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS. IT'S IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE, WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEED OVER A PORTION OF THE LAND TO THE WEST OF MONROE LAKE TO THE TO THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO EXTEND THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM WITH, UH SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO JUST MAINTAIN THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THAT WE'LL BE MOWING IT, MAINTAINING IT. IT WILL BE FENCED OFF AS WELL. UH, THERE'LL BE A FENCE THAT WILL SEPARATE BETWEEN MONROE LAKE AND THE CITY PROPERTY. UH AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A VARIETY AS WE GET INTO THIS DIFFERENT HOME SIZES. UH, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, WE DO SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE ALWAYS UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT WE PUT IN WHAT WE CALL THE HUB.

YOU'LL SEE ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IN A MINUTE. OUR HUB IS WHAT WE CALL THE AMENITY CENTER. IT'S A GATHERING PLACE. IT'S WHERE THEY LIKE TO GO AND BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER AND SOCIALIZE. WE PUT IN A RESORT STYLE POOL WE PUT IN PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE WE DID OUR FIRST ONES BACK IN 2015 AND DIDN'T REALIZE HOW BIG A HIT IT WOULD BE PUN INTENDED. SO NOW EVERYWHERE WE DO THEM, WE DO. IN FACT, THIS THIS SATURDAY AT AT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IS PICK A BALL PALOOZA. WE HAVE PICKLE BALL TOURNAMENTS GOING ON IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, SO WE GENERATE THE LIFESTYLE THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT OLD. THEY'RE JUST AT A STAGE OF LIFE THAT JUST LIKE ME. I COULD LIVE IN ONE OF MY COMMUNITIES, TOO. THEY'RE JUST TO THE STAGE OF LIFE. THEY WANNA THEY WANNA HAVE FUN AND FORGET ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THEY'VE BEEN USED TO.

SO THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU CAN SEE THE AMENITIES UP THERE, UH, NEAR THE ENTRYWAY. THERE'LL BE AN EVENT LAWN AREA THERE ALSO, UH, THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OUR OUR HUBS. THE WAY WE DESIGN THEM . THEY ARE ACTIVE. THEY'RE FULL. THEY HAVE FULL FITNESS CENTER.

THEY HAVE, UH, A WELLNESS ROOM WHERE THERE'S A MASSAGE TABLE, THEY'LL WORK WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. BE ABLE TO, UM BRING A MASSAGE THERAPIST IN OR OR SOME OTHER KIND OF, UH, PERSON TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT WELLNESS AREA. THESE ARE SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY AS WELL AS THIS ONE THAT'S PROPOSED HERE. UM WE UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHAT ACTIVE ADULTS ARE LOOKING FOR, AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES PRETTY WELL. RUN THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION. THEY'RE ALL AGE RESTRICTED. THEY'RE ALL VERY SUCCESSFUL, AND WE HAVE MORE LOCATIONS IN IN DFW THAN ANY OTHER ACT OF ADULT BUILDER. AND YOU, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF OUR

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WE ARE NO IMPACT TO THE SCHOOLS. THIS WILL TURN BACK ONCE IT'S COMPLETE AND BUILT OUT JUST AT RIGHT AT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WITH NO STRAIN ON RESOURCES OF ANY KIND. AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT . WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT TO WILEY. UM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND I HOPE YOU'LL, UH, APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED THANK YOU, SIR. SO DID YOU WANNA TALK FIRST OR NOT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, UH, MR CHAIRMAN, EVERYTHING'S IN THE REPORT. UM, IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR I'M SORRY, ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE. I GOT A QUESTION ON THE SPECIFICS OF BEING MORE HAPPY TO ANSWER. UM FIRST QUESTION. LET ME GET BACK TO THE MAP HERE. SO THIS FUTURE

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IN FACT, PART OF IT, IT HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN ACCEPTED. THE PARKS BOARD HASN'T UNFORTUNATELY DUE TO TIMING OF THIS PARKS SPORT HASN'T SEEN THAT YET. SO MY ONLY QUESTION ON THAT IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD ACCESS THAT OR EVEN PARK. THERE ARE TWO TRAILHEADS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S RIGHT HERE. UM AH, TO YOUR WEST. OUT OF KINGSBRIDGE AND CREEKSIDE ESTATES. OK, SO CAUSE I JUST I SEE. YEAH, I GUESS. KINGSBRIDGE PARK? YEAH SEE WHERE? UM ELAINE DRIVING ELAINE COURT ARE THERE'S A LITTLE HEAD IN RIGHT THERE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S UH, THE TRAIL GOES AROUND THAT WAY. UM ON THE PARKS PLAN. THE IDEA WAS EVENTUALLY TO RUN THAT THROUGH THE WOODED AREA AND THEN CONNECT IT TO THE WHAT'S THE MONROE PROPERTY? WHICH IS THIS PROPERTY HERE? I JUST THEY GO TO THE PARKING ON IN A GATED COMMUNITY FOR PUBLIC. I'M ASSUMING SO, YEAH, NO, THERE WOULD BE. THERE'S NO PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS . AND SO THE ACCESS WOULD BE JUST STRICTLY FOR, UM UM, ACCESS FROM THE WEST SIDE. AND LIKE I SAID AGAIN, UM THAT'S THE CONSIDERATION IS THAT THAT MIGHT BE A CITY PARK, UM, IN THE FUTURE. UM BUT, UM, IT'S MORE OF A TRAILHEAD EXPLORATION AREA THAN IT IS, WOULD BE ANY KIND OF UM YOU KNOW, SOCCER FIELD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN BACK THERE. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD AND THIS MAY BE FOR THE DEVELOPER APPLICANT. AND I'M GONNA CAVEAT. WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS I DO NOT BUILD HOMES, SO I'M THIS MAY BE A SIMPLE QUESTION. BUT WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE PD DOCUMENT, IT SAYS MINIMUM DWELLING SIZE 1300 SQUARE FEET, AND THEN IT SAYS PER AIR CONDITIONED SPACE.

SO TWO CAR GARAGE, PROBABLY 500 SQUARE FEET, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO DO THE MATH ON WHAT WE WERE SHOWN. BEING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SMALLEST ONE WAS COMPARED TO 302,300 PLUS I HEARD, SO I KIND OF ANSWER. YEAH, AND LIKE I SAID, MAYBE REALLY SIMPLE THING. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHENEVER A, UM BUILDING YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE SELLABLE SQUARE FEET. YOU DON'T YOU ONLY COUNT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S UNDER AIR CONDITIONING. SO IF YOU SEE A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A HOME THAT'S 2500 SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S GOT A 500 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE. OK DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THIS IS 1300 YOU ADD 500 FOR A GARAGE. NOW YOU'RE AT MINIMUM OF 1800. THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. SO IT COULD BE SMALLER THAN THESE HOMES. THAT ARE SHOWN TO US. YOUR LIVABLE SPACE IS GOING TO BE 1300 SQUARE FEET. YES. UH, BUT THAT'S THEIR MINIMUM. AND LIKE LIKE THE APPLICANT SAID YOU'VE GOT SIX DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS WITH 16 DIFFERENT FLOOR PLANS WITH 16 DIFFERENT OR SIX DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. EACH YEAH, I SO SOME OF THEM COULD BE AS SMALL AS 1300. UM SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE LARGER UP TO 2500. BECAUSE WHAT'S OUR MINIMUM? WHAT IS THIS? THE WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT? UM WHAT WILL WE COMPARE? AND OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE DOING SOME CHANGES HERE. BUT WHAT WOULD WE COMPARE THIS TO SINGLE FAMILY? AND THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING HERE IS BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A CONDOMINIUM EVEN THOUGH IT'S SINGLE FAMILY. UH STYLE. IT'S STILL A CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.

SO YOU KIND OF HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY SLASH LARGE APARTMENT KIND OF YOU KNOW, UM, AS FAR AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE SO WE DON'T HAVE A PRECEDENT FOR THIS. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT TO COMPARE IT TO. I KNOW THERE IS NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO. YEAH, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LEGEND BELOW THAT THAT MAP IT'LL SHOW YOU RESIDENTIAL SUMMARY, WHICH HAS UNIT DIMENSIONS. THOSE RANGE BETWEEN 2100 SQUARE FEET AND 3560 SQUARE FEET. SO LET ME LET ME ADDRESS IT THIS WAY. I SHOULD HAVE CLEARED IT UP AND I APOLOGIZE. WE OFFER 1300 SQUARE FOOT HOMES ARE ACTUALLY 1320 SQUARE FEET. IT HELPS US KEEP OUR PRICE POINT UNDER 400,000 TODAY AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FOR US 40% OF OUR BUYERS ARE SINGLE. UH, THEIR WIDOW, WIDOWER, UH, DIVORCEE. AND, UH, PRE PANDEMIC. UH, THAT NUMBER USED TO BE AT ABOUT A $356,000 AVERAGE. POST

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SIZE. WILL GO WILL GO NORTH OF 600,000 WILL BE OUR PRICE POINT. SO IT JUST HELPS US OFFER A GOOD RANGE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD OPTION. SAY OK, THAT'S SOMETHING I I'M INTERESTED IN OR OR HEY, MY MOTHER. MY MOTHER IN LAW NEEDS TO YOU KNOW, I NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR HER. WE HEAR IT EVERY TIME WE GET IN FRONT OF A CITY OR A P AND Z OR A CITY COUNCIL.

SOMEBODY ALWAYS SAYS HEY, MY MOTHER. I NEED A PLACE LIKE THIS FOR HER AND NOT ALWAYS DO. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GO OUT AND BUY $450,000 HOME, SO THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO COVER AS MUCH OF THE MARKETPLACE AS POSSIBLE. YEAH, I KNOW. I I'M JUST TRYING TO. OBVIOUSLY THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF US AND THE CITY COUNCIL A FEW TIMES AND SO I'M TRYING TO. I'VE LOOKED BACK ON SOME OF THAT. AND REMEMBER SOME OF IT AND SOMETIMES THOSE QUESTIONS GET ASKED WHEN WE SEE SOME EXAMPLES, AND THEN THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IN. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION SO CHRISTIAN BUTLER IS. IS THERE A CONCERN ON THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER? ONLY DOING 1300 SQUARE FOOT. ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED THIS OR THAT. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT FROM A HERE'S HOW WE TYPICALLY AND IT AND I THINK SOME OF IT'S BEEN ANSWERED. THIS IS KIND OF A MIXTURE OF CERTAIN IT'S NEW, OK, AND SO MAYBE I CAN'T LOOK AT IT LIKE I THINK THE LAST TIME YOU ALL CAME AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE WHAT? NO I. I ON THIS PROPERTY. SOMEONE CAME AND IT WAS WELL, WHAT'S HOW MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE IS THIS COMPARED TO OUR NORMAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT WAS A CAUSE FOR ALMOST ALL OF THESE HOUSES ARE GONNA BE ARE NOT GONNA MEET OUR NORMAL MINIMUM STANDARD, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S 2400 SQUARE FEET. BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PRODUCT AGAIN. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE IT IN WILEY I. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A BUNCH OF 1300 SQUARE FOOT HOMES. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT'S ALL THE REASON I ASK IN IN IN THE APPLICANT MAY SHOOT ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE IF THE 1300 ONLY THE 1300 IS A CONCERN. WE CAN TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES BUILT AT CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, LIKE NO MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE HOUSES WOULD BE 1300 SQUARE FEET. YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DO YOU? I MEAN, YOU HAVE A PRODUCT MIX FROM OTHER WELL, OUR OUR TWO SMALLER UNITS, SO EVERYTHING'S LAND PLANNED. WE ALLOW FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THEM. I THINK IT MAKES UP IS THE IDEA THAT THE SIZES WILL BE WHAT IS SHOWN ON THAT ONE EXHIBIT CORRECT. AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS 75 75% OF OUR OWN. 75% OF OUR HOMES WILL BE OVER 1500 SQUARE FEET. OK SO WE ALLOW A GOOD MIX TO HELP LAND PLAN BUT THEN ALSO, TOO, IT HELPS OFFER THE RIGHT VALUE OF MONEY. SOME OF THOSE HOMES WON'T GO UNDER 400,000 THE SMALL ONES JUST BECAUSE, UM, THE PROCESS ALWAYS IS. PEOPLE COME IN. THEY GET EXCITED ABOUT IT, THEN THEY LIKE TO GO PICK THEIR OPTIONS. YOU KNOW, WE OFFER A BASE HOME AND THEN THEY GET TO GO PICK THEIR OPTION. THEY GET TO GO PICK ALL THEIR DECORATIONS. ALL THE COLORS ALL THAT DIFFERENT STUFF, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ANYWHERE FROM 10 $15,000 EXTRAS TO IN EXCESS OF $100,000 IN EXTRAS, SO WE WORK REAL HARD TO TRY TO GET IT UNDER 400. BUT THEN PEOPLE COME IN AND START ADDING UP AND DOING OTHER THINGS AND IT YOU KNOW IT GETS OVER THAT. SO, COMMISSIONER BURNS DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING AS YOU HAVE? I HAVE A ISSUE WITH THE DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES. WHY WHY A CONDOMINIUMS? I'M FROM THE NORTHEAST AND CONDOMINIUMS AND CO OPS ARE PROLIFIC THERE. THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE, RIGHT? BUT THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN ONE BUILDING. OK SO THEY FIGURED OUT

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SO 40 PER GO BACK TO THE 40% NUMBER. WE USE DENSITY AS A TOOL TO BE ABLE TO HELP KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN. NO I GET THAT. BUT YOU ALSO EXEMPTING YOURSELF FROM ALL RULES HERE IN THE CITY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LOT SIZE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS. I KNOW IT SOUNDS GREAT THAT WE HAVE A VERY REGULATED CONDOMINIUM SYSTEM HERE IN TEXAS, BUT IT ALSO TAKES US OUT OF THE LOOP. YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. NOW, YOU GRAM THE HOUSES, 6 FT APART.

RIGHT? BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY WE FOLLOW A PD WITH YOU GUYS AND WE WORK WITH JASON AND THE TEAM TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT AND LOOK AT THE LAND PLAN OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO, AND SINCE IT'S AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY FOR ACTIVE ADULTS, THEY DON'T NEED PLATTED LOTS.

AND IF WE WERE TO COME IN HERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPT, BUT I NEED PLOTTED LOTS. I NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE AREN'T A MILLION PEOPLE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY . THERE'S 100 AND 68. HOMES ARE AVERAGE. OUR AVERAGE. UH POPULATION IS 1.64 PEOPLE PER HOUSE. OUR AVERAGE CAR POPULATION IS 1.46 CARS PER HOUSE. SO WE'RE GOOD FOR TRAFFIC ALSO, BECAUSE WHEN EVERYBODY'S BEATING IT OUT ONTO THE ROADS LIKE THE ONE LADY TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE TRAFFIC OUR PEOPLE ARE IN THEIR 2ND 3RD 4TH CUP OF COFFEE WHILE EVERYBODY'S GETTING OUT AND HEADING OUT TO WORK BY TIME. EVERYBODY WAS RUSHING HOME IN THE EVENINGS. THEY'RE ALREADY ON A BEER, GLASS OF WINE OR A SODA. SO OUR WE'RE GOOD FOR TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE WE'RE LESS DENSE IF YOU TAKE A NORMAL SUBDIVISION AT 3.5 UNITS TO THE ACRE, THEN YOU HAVE TO MULTIPLY THAT THEN BY 3.25 PEOPLE PER HOUSE ON AVERAGE, SO WE'RE LESS DENSE FOR THE PROPERTY. THAT'S HERE THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS 3.5 UNITS TO THE ACRE. WHAT OUR STANDARD 10,000 FT, RIGHT. PRESENTATION.

HERE. HOLD ON A SECOND. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EXCEED SIX UNITS. FOR THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S 55.65 THAT GROSS ACRE EQUATES TO 47,560 SQUARE FEET. CORRECT SIX ACRE, SIX UNITS PER ACRE. RESULTS IN WHERE DID I WRITE IT DOWN? UH, 7260 SQUARE FEET. FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE HOUSES. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN HERE AND PRESENT TO US? A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHERE THEY WANTED TO REDUCE. THIS MINIMUM STANDARD LOT SIZE FOR A RESIDENTIAL HOME.

IN THE CITY OF WYLIE. AND HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE SAID NO. EVERY TIME. SO THIS MEANS THAT THOSE SIX LOTS WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 3000 SQUARE FEET SHY. OF OUR MINIMUM STANDARD. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT YOU KNOW THE THREE PEOPLE. YOU. YOU YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SIX UNITS PER ACRE.

SIX HOUSES. AND IT'S UNDER THAT. YES, WELL, IS THIS PICTURE SHOWS. YOU CAN, ALMOST EACH NEIGHBOR COULD ALMOST REACH OUT AND TOUCH EACH OTHER. YES, SIR. AND YOU'RE SAYING IT COULD BE A MINIMUM DWELLING SIZE OF 1300 SQUARE FEET. THERE ISN'T ONE HOUSE. SYMBOL IN HERE. AND IT GOES ANYWHERE NEAR 1300 SQUARE FEET. THEY START AT 2100. WELL, THE QUESTION IS, WHY ARE YOU GIVING US DATA AND PRESENTATION? THAT HAS INFORMATION AND DATA IN IT. IT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US. YOU WANT TO DO. IT'S NOT CONTRADICTORY WHEN WE PUT OUT A SQUARE FEET IS NOT 2100 SQUARE FEET. WHEN WE PUT OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TOGETHER, IT'S THE RULE, AND IT'S HOW ALL CITIES OPERATE BY. THEY WANNA SEE MINIMUMS. THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND VALUE IT SO WE PUT WHAT THE ACTUAL SCENARIO IS THERE. IT'S FROM THAT ABOVE 2100 SQUARE FEET IS OUR AVERAGE OF WHAT WE'LL SELL BECAUSE WE HAVE HOMES OVER 2100 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US HERE IN THIS PRESENTATION. WELL IT IS YOU HAVE ON PAPER IS NOT THAT WELL, IT IS BECAUSE THE LAND PLAN DIFFERENTIATES THE DIFFERENT HOMES, THE DIFFERENT PAD SIZES, WHICH ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT HOME SIZES THAT WE PUT IN THERE SO AGAIN. 75% OF THE HOMES IN HERE OUT OF 168 WILL BE OVER 125 SQUARE FEET. THEY'LL START AT 1500 SQUARE FEET. THEN THEY'LL GO TO 17 AND 18 AND 19 AND 21 23 25. SO 75% OF THE HOMES IN HERE WILL BE OVER THAT AMOUNT. SEE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IN HERE.

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GIVE IT TO US. OK IN WRITING SURE, AND IT'S MY OPINION. AS WE'VE ALL SEEN IN THE PAST PEOPLE COMING IN HERE WANTING TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE LOTS IF WE DO THIS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AN ORDINANCE. RIGHT? WELL THIS IS A PD, WHICH, IF ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, IT BECOMES AN ORDINANCE CORRECT WELL, BUT THE ORDINANCE WE HAVE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WE HAVE NOW. IS A CITY ORDINANCE.

IS IT NOT? IS PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. YEAH, OK. SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE A CHANGE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE NO TO ALLOW THIS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING BELOW 10,000. THAT IS NOT CORRECT. SO THIS IS A PD, WHICH ALL PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. AND WE HAVE PROBABLY 100 OF THEM IN TOWN.

MAKE EXCEPTIONS TO THE ORDINANCE . UM, WHETHER IT'S A PLUS OR A MINUS IS UP FOR DEBATE. BUT UM EVERY EVERY PD IS ITS OWN ORDINANCE THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE ZONING ORDINANCE AT ALL. OK, SO A PRACTICAL MATTER FOR US WE HAVE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE THAT COME IN. WE TELL THEM THEY CAN'T GO BELOW 10,000. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS? AND COME BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE AND DEMAND THAT THEY GET SMALLER LOTS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT ONCE. I. I CAN HELP ANSWER THAT. I CAN HELP. LET ME SAY ONE THING BEFORE I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS AND I'M I THINK WHAT JASON IS SAYING IS THIS IS LIKE A CUSTOM. ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPMENT AND NO AND I UNDERSTAND. I WE ADOPT. I'M NOT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.

THERE'S SOME COMPARISON HERE TO SAY. HOW DO WE NORMALLY DO THINGS FOR THIS TYPE OF GENERALLY THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? SO I'M I'M AGREEING WITH YOU. I'M JUST SAYING THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING. THERE'S NOT REALLY A PRESIDENT. PER SE BECAUSE WE ARE ADOPTING BASICALLY A CUSTOM ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. WELL THERE WASN'T ONE FOR RIGHT UP THE STREET UP HERE, WHERE THEY WANTED TO PUT IN FLAT ROOFS. WELL, I I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE I. I UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH PRACTICAL MATTER. WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE OUT THERE? THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE TO GONNA THINK NO. AND I AGREE. I'M NOT. I'M NOT DISAGREEING. I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN SOME MORE OF THE JASON. ONE THING I'LL SAY AND I. I JUST WANNA HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE AND THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN YOU, BUT THERE'S BEEN OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS PROPERTY TRYING TO DEVELOP IT. I UNDERSTAND. AND THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL FOR THEM TO APPROVE OR DENY. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PART OF IT IS TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN A SENSE OF WHAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT. MAYBE ON THIS PIECE PROPERTY, MAYBE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS AND KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ASK THEM, THEY'RE GONNA ASK THAT. AND SO IT'S NOT TO. I'M OK. I'M JUST I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHY SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP BECAUSE THE LAST ONE I WATCHED IN 2022, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ONE. BE A BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

BUT THAT WAS IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY GENERALLY LIKE THIS. AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT WE'RE ASKING NOW, AND IT GOT DENIED. OBVIOUSLY SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING THAT UP. SO LET ME LET ME HAVE ANOTHER ONE. COME UP. I REMEMBER. TARGET AUDIENCE. OH, SOME MORE TIME. ARE WE ON? OK YOU REMEMBER THE TARGET AUDIENCE HERE? THE TARGET AUDIENCE ISN'T YOU KNOW? A SINGLE MOM AND TWO KIDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO WHAT WE HAD SEEN IN THE PAST AND WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED IN THE PAST HAD A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE. IT HAD DIFFERENT NEEDS. IT HAD DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. THESE PEOPLE, IN MY OPINION, AND I WISH I HAD SOMETHING FOR THAT

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SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO DO AN AGE VERIFICATION ON EVERY HOMEOWNER, INCLUDING IF SOMEBODY WERE TO, UM, RENT THEIR UNIT TO A FAMILY MEMBER. WHILE MAYBE THEY'RE AWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO IT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT THERE'S EVER BEEN ANYTHING WITH A CHILD BECAUSE OUR OUR CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS COVER IT. NO CHILDREN CAN STAY THERE FOR MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AT A TIME.

30 DAYS, MAX SO THEY COULD COME TWO WEEKS HAVE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS . AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. THE ONLY THE ONLY TIME THAT CHANGES IF THERE'S A SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD . WE HAD THAT IN THE VERY FIRST COMMUNITY WHERE, UH, THE, UH, PARENT OR ACTUALLY, THEY WERE THE GRANDPARENTS TAKING CARE OF A 24 YEAR OLD SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD. AND EVERY DAY THE VAN WOULD PULL UP, THEY PICK HIM UP AND THEN TAKE HIM TO WHEREVER WOULD SPEND HIS DAY AT AND COME BACK, SO WE'RE VERY DILIGENT.

THE CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS ARE VERY STRICT ABOUT WHAT WE DO. AND IT ALL HAS TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR BE VERIFIED, AND THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OF COURSE, THE ASSOCIATION CONTINUES ON WITH, BUT BUT WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF THEY BREAK THE RULES? I MEAN, THEY OWN THE HOUSE. YOU CAN'T TAKE THE HOUSE FROM HOW CAN I SELL THE HOUSE TO HIM? I IF NOT IF THEY COME IN, I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER YOU SELL THE HOUSE TO HIM. HERE GOES DOWN THE LINE. SOMETHING HAPPENS.

THEY MOVE THEIR GRANDKIDS IN WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS TO THAT RAMIFICATIONS IS THE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION CAN THEN GO IN THERE AND ACTUALLY MOVE TO FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY TO REMOVE THEM OUT OF THERE IF THEY DON'T SIMILAR TO HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IF THEY BREAK THE RULES? NO, IT'S A CONDOMINIUM. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I SAID, SIMILAR TO A HOMEOWNER. IT'S WAY MORE STRICT. IT'S WAY MORE STRICT. IT'S GOVERNED MORE SIMILAR IN THE FACT THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS THE ABILITY TO FIND AND TO DO THAT, TO A HOMEOWNER. SAME THING WITH A CONDOMINIUM. UH, AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE 79 21. DO YOU ASK THE ONE PER CENT WHO IS NOT THE AGE CATEGORY TO MOVE OR DO THEY GET AN EXEMPTION? YEAH THAT WOULD BE THE SITUATION. ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. AVERAGE AGE IS 66 WE? WE WANT YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THERE TO HELP WITH EVERYTHING, BUT WE HAVE NEVER IN ALL OF OUR

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UM, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT. THAT BEING SAID YES. THE COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHEN IT WAS SHOWN SHOWS THE FRONT 300 FT OF THIS PROPERTY. UM UH, UM, DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BEHIND HIM. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN OTHER PEOPLE COME BEFORE US AND IT'S IT. I SH I SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB BY APOLOGIZING AND EXPLAINED WAY MORE DETAILS. I WAS TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL YOUR TIME, SO I APOLOGIZE. I COULD HAVE COVERED MORE OF THESE DETAILS THAN I SHOULD HAVE. SO HERE'S THE THING. THE BIG THING IS, WE DON'T IMPACT THE SCHOOLS. WE BRING A MUCH NEEDED PRODUCT TO THE CITY, BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING YOU HAVE HOMEOWNERS IN WILEY THAT WILL FIND A PLACE LIKE THIS AND THEY'LL GO TO AND THEY'LL EITHER MOVE OUT OF WILEY. OR THEY WON'T MOVE AT ALL. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE THEM A PLACE HERE IN WILEY THAT THEY MOVED TO AND SO THIS WILL BE A GREAT COMMUNITY. IT'S IN DEMAND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WANTING TO DO THIS HERE AND PARTNER WITH THE TOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN. UH THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THIS ITEM. UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE RECEIVED ANY COMMENT SHEETS BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME UP UH, FROM THE PUBLIC FROM THE AUDIENCE AND UH, MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME. TO I THINK WE HAVE ONE. PERSON HERE. STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE WIDELY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. WE WORK THROUGH THE COMP PLAN WITH MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND COUNCIL AND CITIZENS AND EVERYONE ELSE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL FURNITURE. I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL WILL VIEW THIS WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS COUNSEL FOR OR COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE THERE OR NOT, BUT AS FAR AS, UM BUYING POWERS, UM, DENSITY AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT HAVE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. HELP GIVE US THAT DENSITY THE 135 MILE RADIUS FOR SOME OF THE RESTAURANT, NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO RECRUITING FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, MAKES OUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT EASIER DENSITY LIKE THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT RESIDENTIAL DENT WOULD BE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN OR WHAT REDUCED LOT SIZES AND SMALL OF A HOUSE AS THEY CAN POSSIBLY BUILD. UM THAT I THINK WHAT THE ISD IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE FEARFUL. OF THE SMALLER LOT SIZE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ACTUALLY HAS A LOT HIGHER DENSITY AND SOME OF THE OPPOSITION THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY FACED LAST TIME WAS DUE TO REDISTRICT. REDISTRICTING UH, THE SCHOOL NEXT DOOR AND THERE WERE AFRAID THAT DENSITY WOULD ACTUALLY TIP THIS OVER AND THEY'D HAVE TO SPLIT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SMITH ELEMENTARY. THIS IF IT AVOIDS THAT SITUATION MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPOSITION TO IT. UH, BUT AGAIN, IT DOES HAVE THE BUYING POWER.

IT HAS THE TAXABLE VALUE FOR, UM, CITY AND AGAIN FOR US. IT'S KIND OF DUAL PURPOSE BRINGS US THE POWER THAT WE NEED AND, UH, HELPS US WITH THE RECRUITMENT OF THE LAST COUPLE. PROJECTS. UM IF THERE'S COMMERCIAL, I'LL HELP MARKET THAT AS WELL. IF THERE'S NOT THEN AGAIN THAT GOES THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND THROUGH YOU GUYS BUT HAPPY TO HELP IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK. SOMEBODY'S GETTING UP. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION THIS ITEM. UM SO YOU KNOW, STAFF WE NORMALLY DON'T MAKE

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THERE. OTHER QUESTIONS WE WILL NEED, UM, BEFORE THEY MAKE A DECISION OR ANYTHING. WE GOT A VOTE ON IT SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. I WILL. SECOND ON A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A MOTION SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

EVERYONE VOTED. HELLO. AND THE MOTION FAILS. SO NOW, SO WHAT WE NEED WE NEED A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT FAILED SO WHAT WE NEED IS THE OPPOSITE.

WE NEED, UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO DENY. DENY OK? I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY DENY. PETITION. OK, WE GOT A MOTION TO DENY. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM ANYBODY. SECOND THE MOTION SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

SO THE MOTION THE RECOMMENDATION. I IS PASSED. THAT LOOKS LIKE ALL THE ITEMS WE HAD THIS EVENING. ANYBODY GOT ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON SEVENTH. YEAH, THIS IS A FIVE TUESDAY MONTH SO THERE'S A EXTRA WEEK OFF IN THERE OR EXTRA WEEK IN THERE. SO MAY 7TH, UM, IS THE NEXT PNZ MEETING AND WE DO HAVE ITEMS FOR THAT AGENDA. OK UH, I'LL MAINTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION SECOND.

QUESTION. IT'S HARD TO SAY NO. DO YOU DO? THREE WEEKS. THREE WEEKS. THREE WEEKS. YOU COME IN

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