Mar 19, 2024 Planning and Zoning

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OKAY, GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER.

IT IS 6 P.M.

MARCH 19TH, 2024.

THIS IS THE WYLIE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING.

[CALL TO ORDER ]

PLEASE STAND. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.

THANK YOU FOR THIS WEEK.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GET HERE.

HELP US GUIDE US IN OUR DECISIONS TONIGHT AND HELP US GET HOME SAFELY.

IT'S YOUR NAME, WE PRAY. AMEN.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. NEXT UP IS COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY COMMENTS WE HAVE HERE ARE FOR AGENDA ITEMS. SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA, THEY MAY DO SO NOW.

AND SINCE NOBODY'S COMING UP, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE, WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

WE HAD A MOTION I.

SECOND. MOTION SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE.

AND THAT PASSES SIX ZERO.

WE'VE BEEN ONTO REGULAR AGENDA.

WE NEED TO REMOVE THIS OR REMOVE FROM TABLE FIRST.

[1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural (AG/30) to a Planned Development with single family attached, single family detached, commercial development and open space on 25.037 acres. Property located near 605 Country Club Road (ZC 2023-18). ]

SO FOR US TO DISCUSS IT, WE HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER ONE FROM TABLE I.

SECOND THE MOTION. MOTION IS SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE.

YOU'RE WAITING ON SOMEONE. OKAY IS REMOVED FROM THE TABLE. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.

CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION OF CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL AG 30 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN SPACE ON 25.037 ACRES.

PROPERTY LOCATED NEAR 605 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.

ZONING CASE 2023 DASH 18.

MISTER KEVIN. YES.

GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 25 ACRES THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOMES AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SOME OF YOU IN THE COMMISSION HAVE SEEN A SIMILAR DESIGN IN THE PAST.

THE DEVELOPER HAS LISTENED TO THE NEARBY CITIZEN AND CITY COUNCIL'S COMMENTS AND HAS MADE CHANGES WITH THIS PROPOSAL.

AND I'LL LIST THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE.

SO ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO MATCH THE ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AS WELL, INCLUDING ROOF SLOPE AND THE EXTERIOR DESIGN.

THERE IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, AND THAT WILL SERVE AS THE SECONDARY ACCESS POINT TO THE SITE TO WASHINGTON PLACE, SO THAT'S ONLY FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. AND LAST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN HERE.

COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS PLANS, IT'S ACTUALLY IT WENT FROM 23,000 OR 26,292FT² TO 23,800. SO THAT'S FROM FOUR ACRES TO 2.7 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING FOR A FRONT SETBACK FOR THE TOWNHOMES FIVE FEET, BECAUSE THEY'RE WANTING A BROWN A BROWNSTONE, BROWNSTONE STYLE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALLEY ACCESS ON THE BACK THAT WILL ALSO SERVE AS A FIRE LANE.

AND THE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, THEY'RE PROPOSING 50 UNITS FOR THE TOWNHOMES.

IT'S 32. AND AS I STATED, IT'S 23,800 FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.

THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING A PARK ALONG THE FRONTAGE.

THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE FENCED IN WITH AN EIGHT FOOT TALL WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH BRICK BRICK COLUMNS.

WE DID MAIL OUT 41 NOTICES AND WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONSES WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.

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AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU ALSO HAVE THE COMMENT FORMS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING ANY OF THOSE, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT PRESENT NOW OKAY.

YES.

ANDREWS.

THANK YOU. ROWE.

MY NAME IS DOUG HERRON WITH GUSTIN HERRON ARCHITECTURE PLC.

WE'VE BEEN BROUGHT ON THIS PROJECT ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO TO HELP CLEAN THINGS UP.

I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY.

WITH THAT, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE THE TRAFFIC CONTROL TO TRY TO.

MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY OF WYLIE AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

ALONG WITH THE PARK THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED, WE'VE MADE A LITTLE BIGGER.

WE'VE ALSO PUT A CLUBHOUSE ALONG WITH PARKING FOR THE PARK.

THE PARK IS NOT JUST ACCESSIBLE FOR.

THIS COMMUNITY, BUT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THAT'S WHY WE ADDED MORE OF THAT AND TOOK LESS OF THE COMMERCIAL.

WE TOOK THE COMMERCIAL AWAY FOR THAT.

TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE, A LITTLE MORE GREEN SPACE ON THERE.

I WILL BE THE ARCHITECT THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.

I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND HIRING THE BUILDER OR BUILDERS AND BEING ON SITE AT LEAST THREE TIMES A WEEK.

THAT'S TO CONTROL JUST WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE PRETTY MUCH DEMAND WHEN WE'RE ON A PROJECT FOR THAT.

LET'S SEE. WE'VE GOT THE TOTAL USE.

LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT 50 HOMES, FIVE TOWNHOME BUILDINGS AND THEN THE TWO COMMERCIAL SITES.

FOR THAT.

WE'VE ALREADY, I BELIEVE, ON THIS SLIDE, THEY'VE INCORPORATED THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND HIS DRAINAGE PROPOSAL, ALONG WITH ACCESS FOR THE FIRE.

THE AGAIN, THE FIRE EXIT TO THE NEXT COMMUNITY IS ONLY GOING TO BE REMOTELY CONTROLLED OR KEYED, DEPENDING ON HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO REQUIRE THAT EACH CITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON THAT. WE GOT ALL THE TRAFFIC DENSITY, WE'VE GOT ALL THE PARKING, THE HOURS AND SO FORTH.

IT'S ON THERE FOR EVERYBODY.

EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH.

I BELIEVE NOW, IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY WANTS.

I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS WHERE THE COMMUNITY WAS CONCERNED WITH TRAFFIC.

I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO NARROW SOME OF THAT DOWN.

CRIME. MOST OF THESE HOMES WERE GOING TO BE STARTING AROUND 500.

600,000 IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER LIKE TO DO.

SO I WOULD HOPE WITH THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY WAS GOING TO BE MORE EYES AND EARS, LESS CRIME.

SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP.

BUT CRIMES IN EVERY CITY AND WHO KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING TO HIT AND, AND SO BUT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN FROM THAT STANDPOINT.

FOR THAT, TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO BE A MINIMUM OF 3 TO 4 BEDROOMS. COMMERCIAL. WE HAVEN'T REALLY DETERMINED WHAT THOSE ARE GOING TO BE.

EXACTLY. THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PLAN ON STARTING EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT'S THE GOAL. ONCE WE HIRE THE BUILDER, WE'RE GOING TO START THE COMMERCIAL, THE TOWNHOMES AND THE RESIDENTIAL.

THE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON PEOPLE WHO'S GOING TO BUY THE LOTS AND HOW QUICKLY THEY WANT TO START BUILDING.

THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT HE WANTS TO AT LEAST PUT UP 3 TO 4 SPECS FIRST TO GET THAT GOING.

AND KEEP THAT GOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THE CLUBHOUSE.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE ABOUT 11 TO 1200 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE CLUBHOUSE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A RESTROOMS IN IT.

IT WON'T HAVE ANY BREAK ROOM OR COMMON COOKING AREA.

WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT OUT.

WE'VE ALSO ADDED I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN THE SCREEN, BUT WE'VE WE'RE GOING TO ADD BACKING UP TO THE ALLEY.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG WITH TREES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLANT.

IN THOSE LOTS.

SO TO HELP WITH THE GROWTH AND THE SO, THE NEIGHBORS WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE AS MUCH OVER TIME FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE HOMES.

THE TOWNHOMES.

WE LIKE THE VARIANCE JUST SO WE CAN PUT A SIDEWALK ON THERE AND GIVE A LITTLE MORE ROOM AND GIVE THAT BROWNSTONE EFFECT.

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ON THAT RESIDENTIAL.

I'M A PRETTY STANDARD. IT'S GOING TO BE WITHIN THE ZONING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REQUIRE.

ALL THE FINISH OUTS THERE ARE NOW WORKING ON AN HOA.

I BELIEVE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN ABOUT 30 DAYS.

45 DAYS? CURRENTLY. AND THEN THAT WAS IT ON THE SLIDE SHOW, I THINK IN YOUR PACKAGE.

Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE.

THE CIVIL ENGINEERING.

IF I RECALL.

IT WAS ON ONE OF THE SIDE SHOWS THAT I SAW EARLIER THAT WAS SENT TO ME.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR. BUT.

ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS.

I HAVE ONE FOR KEVIN.

AT THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING WHEN WE LAST HEARD THIS PROPOSAL.

TWO OF THE STIPULATIONS ON OUR APPROVAL OF IT.

WERE ADDED.

ONE THAT WASHINGTON WOULD BE OPEN ONLY OPEN TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES, AND TWO, THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS REQUIRED BEFORE PLANNING.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY ACTION ON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT YOU KNOW OF? NOT THAT I KNOW OF, BUT IF IF IT IS AT PLANNING, IT IS.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHENEVER THE PRELIMINARY PLAT SUBMITTED.

AND YOU'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

YES, SIR. AS YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL.

STARTING, I GUESS WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.

YES, SIR. I KNOW THAT'S NOT IN Y'ALL'S PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT.

CONCERNS MYSELF, AND I THINK MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE UP HERE, I DON'T KNOW.

WHERE WE'VE HAD.

SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO COMMERCIAL AND THEN THE HOMES START GETTING BUILT AND MAYBE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE GETS PUT IN FOR COMMERCIAL, BUT NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE ALTERED.

AND THEN LATER ON THEY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, THIS DOESN'T WORK FINANCIALLY.

ALL THE STUFF WE SAID WAS COMMERCIAL.

WE ACTUALLY WANT TO PUT HOMES ON THERE NOW.

AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S HAPPENED RECENTLY, FAIRLY RECENTLY.

AND SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO SOME TYPE OF STIPULATION IN THE.

ACTUAL PD THAT TALKS ABOUT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF HOMES BEING DONE OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE COMMERCIAL, IF NOT ALL OF IT BEING DONE BEFORE FINAL INSPECTION ON THE HOMES. WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I WAS TOLD ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE GOT WE BROUGHT, BROUGHT BROUGHT ON.

SO WHAT I MENTIONED TO DEVELOPERS WAS WE'RE GOING TO COME ALONG, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE BUILDER.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE WHAT THE CITY WANTS BECAUSE OF THAT ISSUE.

YEAH. AND I'VE RUN INTO THAT ISSUE WITH OTHER CITIES WHERE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T MIND THAT.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

EVERYTHING'S THE ONLY THING ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL IS WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THE IMAGE YET.

THEY'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET A STARBUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT, FOR RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

BUT YOU KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW? NO, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT YES, THE EVERYTHING WILL BE STARTED AT ONE TIME.

WE'RE THE REASON HE'S STARTING THE SPECS IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO DO WHEN THEY PURCHASE A LOT BASED ON THEIR FINANCES AND SO FORTH, HOW QUICKLY THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

BUT YES, THE TOWNHOMES, THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL WILL ALL BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY. SO I KNOW YOU HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PREVIOUS.

THE ELEVATION OF THIS, BUT THE PREVIOUS ONE HAD SIX ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.

THIS HAS LESS THAN THREE.

WHAT HAPPENED? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS CORRIDOR.

THE COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.

SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE CORRIDOR ON COUNTRY CLUB ROAD IS OUR COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR? YES, SIR. AND THAT THE FUTURE PLAN CALLS FOR THE WHOLE THING TO BE COMMERCIAL ON THE STREET? YES, SIR. IT'S THE LARGEST ROAD IN WILEY.

IT'S SIX LANES. RIGHT.

SO. WELL.

AGAIN WITH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IN WATCHING SOME OF THE LAST MEETINGS IS WE WANT MORE GREEN SPACE.

WE WANT THERE WAS TRAFFIC ISSUES.

WE HAD TWO ENTRANCES AT ONE TIME, AND THEN AGAIN WORKING WITH THE CITY, WE BROKE IT DOWN, SO WE FELT LIKE GIVING MORE GREEN SPACE.

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WE JUST HAD TO REDUCE DOWN SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, I UNDERSTAND.

WE ALSO DON'T NEED ANY MORE STARBUCKS JUST FOR.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE PLENTY OF STARBUCKS.

WELL, I AND AGAIN, I WAS JUST I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON THERE.

I WAS JUST TALKING OUT LOUD. KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.

YES. AGAIN, IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH US TO GET LARGER COMMERCIAL, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, AS, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY.

AND I SEE YOU KEPT A LOT SIZES, CORRECT? YES, SIR. WE GAVE UP HALF THE COMMERCIAL, AND I'M WONDERING HOW TO FIX THAT.

YEAH, I'LL KIND OF.

OR SOMEBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

LIKE I SHARE WITH COMMISSIONER BYRNE HERE IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED NOT TOO LONG AGO BY A WHOLE MIX OF PEOPLE AND, WILEY, THIS, THIS LOT, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IN THAT PLAN WAS HALF OF IT FRONT BEING COMMERCIAL AND HALF BEING RESIDENTIAL.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD REALLY WORK.

WITH WHAT. I THINK FOR THAT TO WORK, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE PROBABLY MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACK, AND I DON'T I THINK THAT WOULD EVEN BE A YOU'D HAVE A LOT MORE OPPOSITION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I KNOW THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE THERE, BUT YEAH, TO GO FROM HALF THE LOT BEING DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL TO A FRACTION OF THAT IS IS A CONCERN.

SO AND I HAD A PROPOSAL WITH, WITH MY CLIENTS OF PUTTING TOWNHOMES ON THE BACK.

THEY THOUGHT THAT PROBABLY WASN'T GONNA BE A GOOD IDEA AND TAKE UP PART OF THE COMMERCIAL ON THIS SIDE OF THE OF THE SMALLER BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WRAP IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

AGAIN, PARK WAS A BIG ISSUE.

THEY WANT MORE GREEN SPACE.

WE CAN DEFINITELY GIVE UP THE PARK.

PUT A COMMERCIAL THERE. BUT I THINK SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE CONCERNED WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, I KNOW MY MY GUYS WANT TO MAKE IT WORK, SO WE'RE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'VE I'VE DONE PROBABLY 25 DIFFERENT SKETCHES SINCE I'VE BEEN ON BOARD WITH THESE GUYS AND WORKING WITH THE CITY, WORKING WITH JASON.

HE KNOWS AND THIS IS THE FINAL RESULT THAT SEEMED TO MAKE AT THE TIME.

EVERYBODY HAPPY UNTIL WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE MET WITH YOU ALL.

BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T MIND INCREASING THE COMMERCIAL.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO ADD PROBABLY ANOTHER ENTRANCE, POSSIBLY IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE THAT WIDER, THEN.

WE CAN PLAY SOUTH PARK, MAYBE PUT THE PARK SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK.

WE DON'T MIND AGAIN IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO PUT MAYBE.

MOVE THE FIRST TOWN HOME TO THE BACK OVER HERE, NOT TOWARDS THE OTHER SUBDIVISION, BUT TOWARDS THE BACK.

THEN MAYBE POP INTO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING RIGHT THERE.

OR EVEN TWO.

AGAIN, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.

ALL MY GUYS WANT TO MAKE IT WORK, AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAPPY AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT.

FUNCTIONABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

ANY MORE COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. SO I'LL NOW MOVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.

I KNOW I HAVE A FEW FORMS ALREADY.

THREE OF THEM.

I JUST REMIND YOU, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK COME UP AND GIVE US A FORM SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE.

BUT THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS LANNY WHITE.

GOOD EVENING. I GOT ONE QUESTION.

JUST COME UP. FIRST, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

LANNY WHITE, 410 TRUMAN DRIVE, RIGHT AT PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES.

RIGHT. RIGHT ALONG THE LINE.

OKAY. THAT'S MY NAME AND ADDRESS.

WE HAD ONE PERSON COME IN A COUPLE MINUTES BEFORE SIX, AND HE WASN'T ABLE TO COUPLE IN THE BACK TO GET A FORM.

CAN THEY GET A FORM FROM YOU? THE GENTLEMAN DID A GREAT PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE RIGHT AREA.

I MEAN, I LIVE RIGHT ON TOP OF PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES IN THAT AREA.

AND WE KNOW RIGHT NOW YOU GUYS ON THE DIAS HAVE SEEN THE TRAFFIC.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC DENSITY.

IS IT REALLY GOING TO HELP OUR AREA TO HAVE ANOTHER PARK?

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THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT? OKAY. I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS ADDRESSED.

LET ME GO THROUGH MY NOTES SO I DON'T MISS ANYTHING, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

BUT. A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD EXAMPLES, BUT REALLY IT'S THE TRAFFIC FLOW.

IS THIS GOING TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND HERE? DO WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF WHAT WE FIND ON 78? AS LONG AS LONG AND 544 TO REALLY THE BUSINESS AREA.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE CHAOS AND IT REALLY WASN'T SPOKEN FROM DAY ONE.

IF THIS GETS APPROVED BY YOU GENTLEMEN AS WELL, AND LADIES AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S GOING TO BE CHAOS FROM DAY ONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN THERE, TRY TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE UTILITIES, THE ROADS, YOU NAME IT.

CAN YOU IMAGINE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO TAKE FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS COUNTRY CLUB IS THE BUSIEST STREET ON WILEY.

IT'S GOING TO. I DON'T SEE ANY COMMON SENSE THAT IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY DETER PEOPLE, OR THE TRAFFIC FLOW IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

AND MY SIMPLE WORDS, THE RETIRED NAVY CHIEF, OKAY, WHEN YOU GO IN THE NAVY YOU GET A SEA BAG.

OKAY. AND YOU PUT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

YOU PUT 5 POUNDS IN THERE.

RIGHT NOW, OUR STREET COUNTRY CLUB AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SEABAG IS FULL.

YOU CAN'T PUT ANY MORE STUFF IN IT.

BUT I THINK THE GENTLEMAN HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION.

BUT I THINK THEY NEED TO FIND A DIFFERENT AREA OF WYLIE PARK OR MURPHY, WHATEVER.

I JUST THINK WE HAVE SATURATED THE AREA WITH HOUSES AROUND HERE AND ALSO WITH THE BUSINESSES.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY.

NEXT UP IS DOUG HURON.

HURON. WAS THE ARCHITECT.

BUT. I'M SORRY.

OH. DAVID DAHL.

MY NAME IS DAVID DAHL.

I LIVE AT 403 GRANT DRIVE IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES.

I'M NOT GOING FOR A MOVIE STAR LIKE I WENT TO THE EYE DOCTOR.

MY EYES ARE STILL DILATED.

WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROPERTY EVER SINCE WE MOVED IN.

WE WATCHED IT AS A HORSE FARM, AND THEN IT DETERIORATED.

WE'RE VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED AND CLEANED UP.

AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING IT.

WE MESSED UP IN, IN.

REPRESENTING THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THAT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE OF THE STYLE OF HOUSES.

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE OWNER AND HAVE WATCHED THIS ONE AND I LIKE IT NUMBER ONE.

WASHINGTON WILL ONLY BE OPENED IN THE EVENT OF A FIRE.

AND. THAT'S TRUE.

FIRE, POLICE AND MAINTENANCE.

JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.

YEAH, IT'S NOT JUST THE FIRE, BUT IT WAS FOR FIRE.

I HAVE LIVED IT.

OKAY, JIM, MAY I SPEAK? MY NICKEL. JUST BE ACCURATE, PLEASE.

OKAY. WE HAVE LIVED IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES FOR 20 YEARS.

PLUS THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A HOUSE FIRE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, IF THEY OPEN IT UP FOR STREET MAINTENANCE, WE'VE SEEN THAT TWICE IN 20 YEARS.

POLICE WON'T OPEN IT UNLESS THEY'RE ON A CHASE.

SO ANYWAY.

THAT SOLVED THE PROBLEM OF TRAFFIC COMING UP WASHINGTON AND INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, FOR ONE, AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PARK.

THAT PARK IS OPEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES.

ALSO, AS FOR TRAFFIC.

IF YOU LOOK REALISTICALLY.

THE PREDOMINANT TRAFFIC FLOW IS SOUTHBOUND.

THESE PEOPLE WILL BE GOING SOUTHBOUND JUST LIKE WE ARE.

THEY'RE NOT COMING NORTHBOUND AND CONQUERING THE THE FLOW UP PAST US.

NOW. LASTLY.

THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY HAS THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP.

HE OWNS IT.

Y'ALL DON'T OWN IT.

HE OWNS IT, AND UNDER THE STATE CHARTER AND THE CITY CHARTER, HE IS ALLOWED.

TO DEVELOP IT ACCORDING TO THE MASTER PLAN AND THAT HE IS DOING.

AND SO I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HIS RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF ALL FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THAT COLLEGE PARK, WHO I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING.

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WE HAVE A HUGE STREET CAPABLE OF HANDLING THAT TRAFFIC.

IT WILL NOT CAUSE A BALL UP IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES WERE ISOLATED OFF OF IT.

SO. THAT'S MY VIEWPOINT.

AND I APOLOGIZE, JIM, FOR MY INACCURACY.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

NEXT UP IS IS JEFF.

MONTEREY? YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JEFF MARTINI AND I LIVE AT 404 ADAMS AVENUE.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR JUST SHY OF TWO YEARS, AND WE MOVED TO THIS AREA BECAUSE IT'S SOMEWHAT OPEN COMPARED TO SOME OTHER AREAS.

I'M ACTUALLY FROM WISCONSIN, SO MY SON LIVES IN PLANO, SO WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE LANDED HERE.

AND I DISAGREE WITH DAVE.

HE'S DAVID, HE'S ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR.

SO WITH THE TRAFFIC THIS THIS END OF THIS TRAFFIC IS GOING TO END SOMEWHERE.

AND IT ENDS OVER THERE ON 544.

AND I AM RETIRED.

BUT I AVOID THIS AREA LIKE THE PLAGUE BECAUSE THE HIGH SCHOOL IS GETTING OUT.

YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT.

COMING DOWN. 544 IF I WANT TO GO HOME.

SO I DON'T GO ANYWHERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.

SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD NOW HERE'S MY QUESTION HOW MANY ACTUAL HOMES WITH THE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BRING INTO THIS AREA? DOES ANYONE HAVE A NUMBER LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE PER HOME IS IT GOING TO BE TWO CARS PER HOUSEHOLD? THIS WHOLE BACK LOT HERE, HOW MANY CARS? HOW CAN IT NOT AFFECT US IF THERE'S 100 CARS ON THE ROAD? EXTRA. WHERE ARE THOSE 100 CARS GOING? YOU KNOW, IF IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO WORK AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'RE ALL COMING HOME AT THE SAME TIME, HOW CAN IT NOT AFFECT OUR AREA, THIS WHOLE PARK THING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THAT PARK. MY SUBDIVISION THAT I'M IN, PRESIDENTIAL STATES ISN'T GOING TO USE THAT PARK.

THERE'S OTHER PARKS IN THE AREA, BEAUTIFUL PARKS, BIG PARKS.

THIS ISN'T VERY MUCH OF A PARK.

IF WE'RE TALKING, I WANT SERENITY NOW OR BEING SOME PARK.

SO THIS IS JUST GOING TO CONGEST THE AREA EVEN MORE.

WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT THAT? AND IF YOU'RE FROM THE AREA AND YOU DRIVE AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE ANY QUICKER.

YOU CAN'T EVEN GO DOWN THROUGH MURPHY.

WHAT'S OUR NEXT PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS AREA, PARK OR PARKER? SO IF I WANT TO GO WEST, HOW AM I GOING TO GO WEST IN ANY KIND OF SPEED, I CAN'T, SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 150 CARS ON THE ROAD. SO I'M JUST TOTALLY AGAINST IT.

AND ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE FOR THIS, NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY, THERE'S NO WAY.

AND IF ANYBODY HERE LIVED IN OUR SUBDIVISION AND YOU TRY TO PULL OUT ON THIS ROAD, IT'S IT'S NOT A PLEASANT TIME AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY.

YES, IT MIGHT BE THREE LANES ON EACH SIDE, BUT NOW LET'S ADD SOME BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYEES IN HERE AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE COMING AND GOING.

SO I VOTE AGAINST IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT UP, WENDY.

GOOD. HI, MY NAME IS WENDY GOODE.

I LIVE ON 404 WASHINGTON PLACE.

AND ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS A FLIER WAS GIVEN THROUGH ALL OF PRESIDENTIAL STATES.

REAL SHINY, PRETTY LOOKING WITH ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND THE BENEFITS OF IT AND SO ON.

BUT I WAS HERE AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID TO THE DEVELOPER WAS, YOU'RE TELLING US ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, BUT NONE OF IT IS IN WRITING, LIKE IT'S NOT LEGAL.

SO IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, YOU COULD STILL DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ALL THESE WORDS, BUT IT'S NOT IN WRITING.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SAYING IS ACTUALLY IN WRITING AND THAT WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE, ARE THEIR FEET GOING TO BE HELD TO THE FIRE IF THEY YOU SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AT? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS LEGIT AND WRITTEN AND THEY'RE COMMITTING TO AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE JUST SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FIND THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE.

WE HAVE THIS NICE FLIER WITH ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT AGAIN, THE LAST MEETING, CITY COUNCIL SAID, IF WE PASS THIS THE WAY, THIS IS PRESENTLY SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING ALL THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN WRITING.

SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

SO THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE.

THE OTHER THING IS SO I, I LEARNED THAT THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE THAT ALL OF COUNTRY CLUB IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, THAT RIGHT ALONG THE THE END.

RIGHT. SO MAYBE THIS IS A MOOT POINT.

I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS, THEN CHANGE IT ALL TO RESIDENTIAL INSTEAD OF WHY?

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LIKE, YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR CAR, YOUR CAT, YOUR TEETH, YOUR HAIR, YOU CAN GET ANY KIND OF FOOD, YOU CAN GET GROCERIES, YOU CAN GET INTERNATIONAL GROCERIES.

YOU CAN YOU CAN EVEN GO TO COLLEGE WITHIN A MILE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED MORE BUSINESS STUFF.

THAT JUST TO ME ADDS A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T NEED, BUT AND.

I THINK THAT'S THAT.

FIRST, MY FIRST QUESTION IS A CONCERN.

THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS BEING SAID IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN LAW LIKE IN WRITING, AND A COMMITMENT THAT IT'S A CONTRACT AND THEY HAVE TO DO VERSUS WE'RE SAYING WE'RE DOING IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON.

THAT'S WHAT A PD DOES.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S SUBMITTING TO DAVID, SO I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.

THAT'S THE COMMON FORMS I HAVE.

IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, COME UP.

OTHERWISE WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.

SINCE MY 10S.

BUT. YOU CAN.

I'M JUST KIDDING. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE POLL HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER HER OR I CAN HEAR HER.

I CAN. ALL RIGHT.

SO TO DIRECT A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING VERSUS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY HAVE, THERE IS A WHAT'S CALLED A PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS, AND THAT LISTS ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS THAT THERE CAN BE NO MORE THAN 50 HOUSES.

50 HOUSES IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER THEY CAN BUILD ON THIS PARTICULAR THING.

SO THERE'S A COMPLETE LIST OF CONDITIONS.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE ZONING EXHIBIT ITSELF, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.

IF COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE THIS, THEN THAT BECOMES AN ACTUAL CITY ORDINANCE.

AND THAT'S HOW WE LEGALLY HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM? OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. AND ALSO IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT THEM COMING INTO THE CITY COUNCIL, I WENT BACK, I LOOKED AT THE NOTES FROM THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I LOOKED AT OUR NOTES AND OTHER MEETINGS THAT THE CITY HAD HAD WITH THEM AND YES, WHAT THEY PRESENTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE LAST TIME WAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO US IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS PROPOSAL CONTAINS.

THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T ALLOW THOSE FLAT ROOFS AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WERE.

PROPOSING. AND THEY NEVER WENT BACK AND CHANGED THE PROPOSAL.

BEFORE THEY PRESENTED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FROM WHAT THEY DID WITH US.

WHY DOES IT WALK RIGHT? THAT'S WHY YOU'VE GOT THE NEW COMPANY.

THEY. THEY JUST.

BLEW HIM OFF, BLEW US OFF, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HANDLE THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THAT.

AND IF THE ELEVATIONS AND THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT IN, ACCORDING TO THE THE PLAN THAT THEY'VE GIVEN TO US.

ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THEN WHAT WERE IN THERE BEFORE? TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

THEY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE REAL HOUSES.

I MEAN, THE HOUSES IN OUR SUBDIVISION, I LIVE IN CREEKSIDE.

THE HOUSES THAT IN PRESIDENTIAL ESTATES, THEY LOOK THE SAME AS THOSE.

NOW TO PUT YOUR MIND AT EASE.

A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THEY PRESENTED THIS PROPOSAL TO THEM.

SO. AND I DID.

I WENT BACK AND I COMPARED OUR NOTES, OUR MEETING MINUTES TO THEIR MEETING MINUTES.

THEIR WORK SESSIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND. I'M SATISFIED THAT THEY CHANGED THE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT.

AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP AT FIRST THAT THERE WERE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WERE PLACED ON OUR APPROVAL.

AND THAT WAS THAT WASHINGTON WOULD BE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES WAS THE EXACT WORDING.

AND I'VE GOT IT RIGHT HERE.

AND. THAT.

THE TRAFFIC.

IMPACT ANALYSIS WOULD BE PERFORMED.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THOSE UP RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE THOSE WERE OUR CONDITIONS TO THE APPROVAL.

OKAY. AND THEY WILL BE DONE.

THEY'LL BE. THEY'LL BE HELD TO THE FIRE TO DO THEM.

OKAY. WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO DESTROY OUR CITY.

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SHAPE OR FORM.

DAVID'S RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING.

THIS IS SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT.

SO I WOULD SAY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH IT.

I'M SURE DOCTOR WOULD SELL IT TO YOU.

AND I DON'T SAY THAT TO BE CUTE OR TO BE SNIDE, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY.

THIS IS AMERICA. LAST TIME I CHECKED, OR AT LEAST FOR NOW.

AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP HORSES RUNNING AROUND IN THAT FIELD, PLEASE BUY IT AND KEEP IT A HORSE RANCH.

OR BUY IT AND KEEP IT A FIELD.

BUT ALL WE CAN DO WITH THIS IS TO.

MANIPULATE HOW THEY BUILD ON IT.

IF THEIR INTENTION IS TO BUILD.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY BUILD TO THE PROPER ORDINANCE.

WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM BUILDING IF THEY'RE WITHIN ORDINANCE.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AND PROGRESS IS PROGRESS.

IT'S GOING TO MARCH ON.

I KNOW THAT WE MAY THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN WILEY.

I'M HAPPY TO BE ON BOARD WITH YOU.

I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO, AS YOU COULD TELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL I'M NOT FROM HERE.

SO I MOVED HERE LIKE TEN YEARS AGO, AND I LOVED IT WHEN I MOVED HERE.

BUT THE POPULATION HAS DOUBLED SINCE I MOVED HERE.

I TRY TO TELL PEOPLE NOT TO COME, BUT THAT DON'T WORK.

SO. WE HAVE A FANTASTIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

PEOPLE ARE COMING. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY IS TO CONTROL IT THE BEST WAY WE KNOW HOW.

AND ARE YOUR BEST INTERESTS ARE OUR BEST INTERESTS, BELIEVE YOU ME.

BUT I WISH I COULD WAVE A WAND AND MAKE EVERYTHING A PARK AND MAKE EVERYTHING A FIELD, BECAUSE I WOULD.

I LOVE THAT THAT'S WHY I MOVED FROM NEW YORK TO TEXAS.

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE.

YOU KNOW, DISAPPOINTED IF THINGS GET APPROVED BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE WORLD WORKS.

AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THEY ALL KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF THAT A LITTLE BIT.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DONE BACK IN 2022.

THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS BASICALLY SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE.

THE BACKSIDE, WEST SIDE RESIDENTIAL, THE FRONT SIDE COMMERCIAL.

AND LIKE I TOLD THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

IF IT STUCK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE A APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE BACK.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THAT WOULD WORK.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT THAT ON THIS BOARD OR IN THE PUBLIC.

SO. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IS KIND OF A OR THE PLAN, AT LEAST, I THINK HAS KIND OF BEEN THROWN TOGETHER THAT THE APPLICANT CAME BACK AND TRIED TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY.

MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY'S GETTING WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THEY'RE DOING THE BEST WITH WHAT THEY CAN, AT LEAST AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

MY ONLY THING.

AND I'M SAYING THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN EVEN BE DONE, IS.

LIKE COMMISSIONER BYRNE SAID.

ANYTHING THAT'S OPEN SPACE ON COUNTRY CLUB IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IS PLANNED COMMERCIAL AND.

TO NOT UTILIZE THE WHOLE FRONTAGE FOR COMMERCIAL.

IS SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO ACCEPT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

AGAIN, IF IF WE WERE TO SAY INSTEAD OF THAT PARK, LET'S ALLOW IT TO BE A COMMERCIAL.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO RAISE MORE QUESTIONS THAN SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC MEETING AGAIN AND, AND VOICE THOSE OPINIONS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I STOPPED SHORT OF MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION MYSELF TO HAVE THAT NOT A PARK, BUT A SOMETHING COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE SHOPS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF COMMERCIAL THINGS.

BUT IT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE TO A HOME RIGHT BEHIND IT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, MY ONLY SUGGESTION IF IT WOULD BE SUPPORTED.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF EXACTLY HOW TO SAY THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL BE.

BE COMPLETED. AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING IT, AND I DON'T NOT BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE COMMERCIAL WILL BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH RESIDENTIAL.

BUT WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE, AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PD RIGHT NOW THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IS AND I WOULD MAYBE JASON, IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH SOME NUMBERS, THAT'S KIND OF NORMAL FOR THAT STUFF.

I. IF I CAN INTERRUPT.

NO. GO. OKAY. I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST ADD THAT.

YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S PA'S WISH TO RECOMMEND THAT TO COUNSEL THAT WAY, THAT THERE BE A CONCURRENCY REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE PD.

AND THEN LET ME WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO, BECAUSE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT TUESDAY BECAUSE OF THE TABLING.

LET ME TRY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PD BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE SPECIFICS, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT SOUNDS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE CAN. GOOD. AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL, FULL COMMERCIAL WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE.

BE DONE BEFORE ALL THE HOUSES ARE DONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES, SIR. SO.

YEP. THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? I JUST WANTED TO HELP ALLAY YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

I WERE. I LIVE IN CREEKSIDE ESTATES.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON IN MCMILLAN? THE INFAMOUS S-CURVE.

OKAY. WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 20 YEARS TO GET THAT.

IT'S A BIG PAIN IN THE YOU KNOW WHAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT BY THE TIME THEY GET THROUGH.

THE AVAILABILITY TO GET FROM.

WEST WILEY TO ALL THE WAY.

TO EAST WYLIE, 78.

WILL BE WHEN IT'S FINALLY DONE.

MINIMUM OF FOUR LANES EACH WAY.

NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE EVEN THAT LIVE IN CREEKSIDE ESTATES WHERE I LIVE, THAT ARE AGAINST THIS.

BUT WHEN IT GETS DONE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PROPONENTS OF IT.

AND SO WHY DIDN'T WE GET IT DONE SOONER? LIKE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IT GOING, BUT.

THAT'S CURVE IS DANGEROUS.

EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

AND YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.

IT'S OUR CHILDREN THAT ARE AT RISK ON THAT ROAD WITH THE BUS TRAFFIC.

ALMOST ALL THE BUSSES GO THROUGH THAT STREET.

NOW IT'S PROGRESS, BUT IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY CITIZENS FROM FROM WYLIE.

MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL.

THIS COUNCIL.

AND THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND THERE WAS A LOT OF REVIEW THAT WAS DONE.

IF WE SENT IT BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES.

CITY COUNCIL SENT IT BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES.

TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS PUT TOGETHER IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF WHAT WE KNOW IN THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE IN WYLIE? AND IT'S GOING TO BE CONTROLLED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPHAZARD LIKE IN SOME CITIES I'VE SEEN AROUND HERE.

AND WE'LL BE WATCHING.

WATCHING CLOSELY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT.

IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE ARE NO MULTI YOU KNOW, THESE ARE HOUSES AND.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I PUT UP APARTMENT BUILDINGS, WE WE SHY AWAY FROM THAT.

THAT'S HOW YOU KILL A CITY, IS YOU LOAD IT UP WITH APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

WILEY HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST HOMEOWNERSHIP RATES IN THE DFW AREA, AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT 82.

I THINK THE LAST ONE WAS ABOUT 82%, WHICH IS VERY HIGH FOR THIS AREA.

DALLAS IS 60, PLANO IS 64.

I MEAN, IT'S WE TRY NEVER EVER TO BURDEN ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN APARTMENT BUILDING.

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU GET A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.

YOU DON'T GET IT AS MUCH WITH HOME OWNERSHIP.

ESPECIALLY HOMES ACROSS THIS KIND OF MONEY, WHICH I, I RELISH.

THE MORE EXPENSIVE THE BETTER IN MY MY MIND BECAUSE IT MAKES MY HOME THAT MUCH MORE VALUABLE AND IT LESSENS THE TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE IN HERE TRYING TO BUY THEM. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THEM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COME.

I KNOW THAT'S A HORRIBLE THING TO SAY, BUT THAT'S TRUE.

SO. THAT SHOULD JUST BE NOTED.

ON THE MATTER OF THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

WE HAD A PROPOSAL COME IN TO US LAST YEAR.

THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING DONE HERE IN WYLIE THROUGH PRIVATE FUNDING.

WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND SAID, LOOK, WYLIE HAS HIT THE MAGIC NUMBER, BASICALLY IS WHAT THEY SAID.

YOU'RE NOW 60,000.

YOU HAVE TO START COMPLYING WITH HUD REGULATIONS AND ALL THESE FEDERAL REGULATIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY.

WE TOLD HIM NO. WE DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION, THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S BASICALLY, IN MY MIND, AT LEAST, UNCONTROLLED.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

WE TOLD HIM. WE ASKED HIM TO.

THANKED HIM FOR COMING.

SO. WE DON'T WANT THAT ANY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS CITY DOES.

WE DON'T WANT THOSE KIND OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART IS.

OVER ON MCCREARY THAT WAS INITIALLY GOING TO BE A LOW INCOME HOUSING MULTIFAMILY FACILITY WHEN WE FIRST MOVED HERE. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS THAT WE WE'VE GOT CAME UP AGAINST IT BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE

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WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

YOU START GETTING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, YOU GET INTO SOME BIGGER DEALS THAN ANY OF US EVER WANT TO TACKLE.

SO LIKE I SAID IT, THE EXPANSION AND DEVELOPMENT HERE IS GOING TO BE CONTROLLED BASED ON WHAT THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN.

PUT IN PLACE OR PUT IN PLACE, REVIEWED BY A LOT OF CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.

YEAH. ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING.

WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU.

OKAY. THAT'S THREE MINUTES.

SO. I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY. I'M JUST MESSING.

I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY COMMENTS OTHER THAN.

I HAD ONE QUESTION.

FOR? OH. GO AHEAD.

I GOT ONE QUESTION.

HOW WILL THE TRAFFIC DENSITY REPORT BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC? THE TIA WILL BE REQUIRED BEFORE PLANNING.

IF ZONING WERE ULTIMATELY APPROVED.

AND IT'S USUALLY A COPYRIGHTED DOCUMENT, SO IT CAN'T BE PUT ONLINE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT ANYBODY COULD STOP IN AND THERE WILL BE ELEMENTS OF THAT REPORT THAT WILL BE IN STAFF'S REPORT WHEN THE WHEN THE PLAT COMES THROUGH TO DESCRIBE ALL OF IT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I MEAN, IT'LL BE AVAILABLE.

I JUST USUALLY THEY'RE COPYRIGHTED SO WE CAN'T HAND IT OUT.

YEAH. BUT WE WILL HIGHLIGHT IT.

I THINK I'M TALKING IN CIRCLES NOW.

WE'LL SUMMARIZE IT AND IT'LL ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE AT OUR OFFICE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND YOU CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL SAYING YOU GOT IT.

AND IF YOU WANT TO COME GET IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUT IT UP ONLINE.

BUT WE CAN SEND YOU AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, IT'S HERE IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TAKE A GANDER AT IT OR SCREAM AT SOMEBODY UPSTAIRS, YOU CAN COME, BUT WE CAN'T POST IT.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION.

AND. I'M SURE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE LOOKED AT OR THE ENGINEERS HAVE LOOKED AT ENGINEERING OR ENGINEERING.

THE HOUSES OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE AN ALLEYWAY, SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A GARAGE AND SO THEY'LL HAVE FRONT FACING PARKING. OKAY. OKAY, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? I GOT ONE.

WITH THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.

IS THERE A WAY TO REMOVE THE COMMERCIAL ITCH TO MAKE IT OUR RESIDENTIAL? OR WOULD THAT BE.

I KNOW PART OF THE PLAN, BUT IS THERE A WAY.

OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DO IT WHERE IT'S ALL SINGLE FAMILY WITH JUST THE TOWNHOMES AT THE, AT THE, YOU KNOW, FAR SOUTH SIDE.

HOWEVER WHEN THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS DENIED BY COUNCIL BACK IN SEPTEMBER THE OWNER DOCTOR KHAN, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, CAME IN AND HAD A WORK SESSION WITH COUNCIL.

AND DURING THAT WORK SESSION, HE ASKED COUNCIL, BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS AND BASED ON YOUR DESIRES AND BASED ON THE THE COMP PLAN THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS HIS BEST INTERPRETATION OF BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY AGREED.

NOT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AGREED.

NOT EVERYBODY IN THE PUBLIC AGREED.

AND THIS IS HIS BEST INTERPRETATION OF WHAT HE HEARD DURING THAT WORK SESSION, AND THAT WAS THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE COMMERCIAL ALONG COUNTRY CLUB. THAT WAS THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WAS THAT WAS THEIR WISH.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE.

OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE.

SO I'LL JUST SAY, LIKE I SAID.

MY SUPPORT OF THIS IS BASED ON HAVING SOME TYPE OF STIPULATION, OR AT LEAST I GUESS, A RECOMMENDATION.

OUR COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT STAGING OR WHATEVER THE WORD YOU WANT TO USE CONCURRENCY.

WE CAN PUT THE CONCURRENCY INTO OUR APPROVAL.

RECOMMENDATION. RECOMMENDATION? YES. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

YEAH. JUST LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.

CORRECT. OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY COMMENTS.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RECOMMEND THE.

ITEM TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

FOR APPROVAL, WITH THE CAVEAT DEALING WITH CONCURRENCY OF COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

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SO PLEASE VOTE.

SO THE MOTION CARRIES 4 TO 2.

GO FOR IT. OKAY? AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR.

BECAUSE IT WAS TABLED TWO WEEKS AGO TO THIS.

IT GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, NOT THE NORMALLY THERE'S A THREE WEEK TIME PERIOD BETWEEN P AND Z AND AND COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU WISH TO COME AND BE HEARD THAT'S IT'S NEXT TUESDAY.

THANK YOU. SO SINCE THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES, WE HAVE DECIDED.

NO. NOT REALLY. WE DIDN'T GET WE GOT A BUNCH OF SUBMITTALS THIS MONDAY, BUT NOT TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE WEEK OFF.

SO THERE'S NO MEETING NEXT WEEK, BUT.

OR NEXT TIME. BUT THERE WILL BE A MEETING ON.

WHEN IS IT. 4 OR 16.

IS THE NEXT PNC MEETING OKAY.

APRIL 16TH OR 16 PERSON.

YEAH. THE PERSON IN CHARGE SAID YES.

OKAY. I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

SO MOVED.

WE ADJOURN. I SECOND.

WE'RE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.