Feb 27, 2024 City Council & Work Session

[CALL TO ORDER]

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AT. TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE FEBRUARY 27TH 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WILEY, TEXAS, AT THE WILEY MUNICIPAL CENTER. THE TIME IS 6 P.M. WE DO ASK IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SET THAT TO VIBRATE SO AS NOT TO DISTURB PROCEEDINGS. IF YOU DO GET A CALL THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE. WE DO ASK THAT YOU STEP OUT TO OUR ATRIUM. MADAM CITY SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ROLE AT THIS TIME? YES MAYOR MAYOR MATTHEW PORTER COUNCILMAN DAVID R, DUKE. COUNCILMAN DAVE STRANG MAYOR PRO TEM JEFF FORRESTER. COUNCILMAN SCOTT WILLIAMS. COUNCILMAN SID HOOVER. COUNCILOR MANGINO MEIC. WE HAVE A CORPS MAYOR. THANK YOU MISS STORM AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION TO BE LED BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE, LED BY COUNCILMAN STRING YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. FATHER. GOD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY. AND MANY OF US ARE HURTING. MANY OF OUR HEARTS ARE ACHING AS WE WATCH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD. AND MORE. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY? FATHER AS WE THIS LAST WEEK LOST TO YOUNG PEOPLE. WE'VE HAD. ACCIDENTS THROUGHOUT TOWN.

FATHER. I JUST ASK THAT YOU WOULD WOULD BLESS US CITY FATHER JUST GIVE US PAUSE TO SLOW DOWN, SLOW DOWN AND REMEMBER. WE ARE FATHER. REMEMBER WHOSE WE ARE, FATHER? I ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES WHEN THEY'RE SEPARATED. AND BE WITH THOSE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. THROUGHOUT THE WORLD WHO ARE PROTECTING OUR FREEDOMS THAT WE SO ENJOY. I ASK ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON. JESUS. AMEN.

PLEASE BE SEATED. THIS EVENING FOR THE FIRST SECTION OF OUR AGENDA UNDER PRESENTATIONS AND

[PR1. Recognition of In-Sync Exotics.]

YOU. WELL, COME ON OVER. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA JOIN YOU HERE? YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WEARING SHIRTS THAT DIDN'T WANNA WALK UP. EMILY. LINDA. UH HUH. I DON'T SAY THAT WASN'T ME. HEY, EMILY LAWN'S NOT THE BOSS. WINDOW. RIGHT? WE CAN DO THIS ONE AT A TIME. WHERE EVERYONE FROM NSYNC CAN COME ON DOWN. YES, FOR ME. SO FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW WE HAVE AN AMAZING SANCTUARY HERE IN WILEY THAT TAKES CARE OF BIG CATS FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. UM I I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR MISSION AND WHAT YOU ALL DO. AND THE REASON THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE YOU ALL RECEIVED A LONG LIST OF HONORS IN THE BEST OF SO I WILL LET YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO EVERYONE AS WELL. RIGHT? SO WHAT? WE DID LAST TIME I WAS HERE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. I HAD A BOARD OF DIRECTORS UP HERE AND I SAID, SO . WE'RE GETTING READY TO CLOSE AND THEN I KIND OF TEAR IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS WERE CROSSING THEIR FINGERS THAT I DIDN'T MEAN US. BUT WE CLOSED DOWN SIEGFRIED AND ROY SECRET GARDEN IN LAS VEGAS, AND WE TOOK FIVE. FIVE OF THE FIVE OF THE CATS. TWO WHITE LIONS AND THREE LEOPARDS. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A HUGE DEAL, AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY GLAD TO, UH, GET ALL OF THAT CLOSED DOWN AND HELP BE ABLE TO STOP THE ANIMAL ENTERTAINMENT TRADE. BAD THING IS, IS THAT THREE MORE

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THIS IS CHAFFY. THIS IS CHAFFY SAY HI, CHAFFY. UM BUT WE DID GET A LONG LIST OF BEST IN DFW THIS YEAR. UM I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY WE GOT LAST YEAR, BUT I THINK THIS YEAR WE GOT 13. UM AND THAT IS ALL DUE TO EVERYBODY THAT GETS ONTO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH NEWSPAPER, UM AND GIVES US THE VOTE. SO WE'RE ALL THANKFUL AND HAPPY FOR THAT, UM I DON'T KNOW WHO MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH DOC ANTLE, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LICK HIM UP BECAUSE HE'S THE NEXT BIG RESCUE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING HOPEFULLY REALLY, REALLY SOON. SO WE'RE ALL EXCITED FOR THAT ONE. UM WHAT ELSE IS COMING UP A GALA? WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR FIRST GALA. ON JUNE THE EIGHTH AT BOYD FARMS. AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO COME. ALL OF Y'ALL NEED TO COME. YES. SO GOT SOMETHING? NO, NO. WHAT AT A MINIMUM, THEY NEED TO INTRODUCE. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HI. I'M MICHELLE ALLEN AND I, A THE EVENTS DIRECTOR. I'M KERI OSTERMAN. I'M THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR. I'M EMILY GRAHAM.

I'M A VOLUNTEER FEEDER CAGE CLEANER AND I WRITE THE NEWS NEWSLETTER. I'M STEPHANIE LAGRONE. I'M THE VETERINARIAN. I'M LINDA TILLY AND I'M A VOLUNTEER. I'M RACHEL URZI, AND I'M A CURRENT INTERN. SO I THINK WE ALL WENT APPRENTICE TO YOU GUYS WITH CALENDARS. 2024 CALENDAR. YEAH. WE BROUGHT MORE. YAY! WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THAT . I HAD TO LAUGH WHEN SHE SAID SHE BROUGHT FRIENDS A COUPLE YEARS AGO. THE FIRST TIME I WAS ABLE TO HONOR YOU ALL. I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH FRIEND FROM THE, UH, SANCTUARY.

COMING INTO SUCH A SMALL SPACE. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE ALTERNATIVE EXITS. I THINK COUNCILMAN MILICI WELL THOUGHT THE SAME THING AT FIRST TONIGHT, TOO. UM BUT IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT YOU ALL DO, AND I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT YOU AREN'T BRINGING AN ANIMAL NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SMALL SPACE, AND THEY PROBABLY LIKE POLITICIANS, BUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE NOT TAKING THEM OUT AND USING THEM IN IN A MANNER THAT ISN'T BEFITTING, UH, WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN AMAZING, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY COMPLETE UM, YOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF A LOT OF BIG CATS DOWN THERE. AND IF SOMEONE HASN'T BEEN I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO CHECK IT OUT. IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, THEY WILL HAVE THE TIME OF THEIR LIFE AS WELL. UM IT'S JUST AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THEM UP CLOSE BUT ALSO NOT SEE THEM WHERE THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO PERFORM AND TO HAVE INTERACTIONS THAT ARE NOT IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS. SO UH, AGAIN. CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THE AWARDS, AND I DO WANT TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. AND IT LISTS ALL ALL OF THOSE THAT YOU WON. SO WHEREAS IN SYNC EXOTICS HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED IN EIGHT CATEGORIES IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, 2023 BEST IN DFW PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARDS AND WHEREAS HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES WERE CAST THROUGHOUT THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX, WITH N SYNC EXOTICS WINNING TOP GOLD HONORS AS THE BEST SUMMER CAMP. FAMILY ATTRACTION, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS HOLIDAY EXPERIENCE. EXTREME ADVENTURE, STAYCATION IMMERSIVE EXPERIENCE. CHILDREN'S BIRTHDAY VENUE PLACED A VOLUNTEER OUTDOOR ADVENTURE PLACE TO TAKE VISITORS AND ADVENTURE WITHIN A DAY'S DRIVE. AND WHEREAS IN SYNC EXOTICS ALSO RECEIVED SILVER HONORS SILVER HONORS AS THE BEST ANIMAL NONPROFIT. WHEREAS THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS RECOGNIZED VICKY CAHE, THE FOUNDER OF N SYNC, EXOTICS AND ITS MISSION TO RESCUE NEGLECTED, ABUSED AND UNWANTED EXOTIC FELINES. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A COUPLE THAT IDENTIFY AS FELINES OUT THERE

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[COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS]

[CONSENT AGENDA]

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I'LL SECOND. IT OK, WE HAVE THE MOTION AS STATED COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. MOTION CARRIES 70 ITEMS EXCEPT G ARE APPROVED. WITH THAT WE'LL

[G. Consider, and place on file, the Wylie Police Department 2023 Racial Profiling Analysis.]

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[1. Consider, and act upon, Ordinance No. 2024-05, amending Wylie’s Code of Ordinances, Ordinance No. 2021-17, as amended, repealing and replacing in its entirety Chapter 38 (Emergency Services), Article III (Emergency Medical Services) of the Wylie Code of Ordinances and adopting new Emergency Medical Services; providing for penalties for the violation of this ordinance; providing repealing, savings and severability clauses, an effective date and for the publication of the caption hereof]

THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO PROVIDE EMS AT AT CERTAIN EVENTS. UM AND THE REASON WHY THAT IS IN THE NEXT THREE ITEMS REALLY ARE OUR MAIN PURPOSE WAS TO ENSURE THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T COME IN AND SELL. UM, A VENDOR, UH, EMS SERVICE AND THEN IT FALL ON THE CITY AND SO, OBVIOUSLY A SPECIAL EVENTS. IF SOMEBODY, UM AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS RIGHT NOW OUT AT SOUTH FORK, BECAUSE WE PROVIDE EMS FOR PARKER, THEY HIRED A VENDOR LAST YEAR THAT PROVIDED UM EMS FOR A SERVICE. UH FOR AN EVENT, AND THEN THEY, UM, THEY LEFT. THEY DIDN'T. THEY WEREN'T THERE. BUT WE WEREN'T PREPARED FOR THAT. THAT CALLS AND SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY, UM, STEP ONE OF THAT OF THAT PROCESS. UM WE UPDATED THE REGULATIONS FOR PRIVATE EMS SERVICES, UM, OPERATING IN THE CITY AND ESTABLISHED, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. UM WE HAD AN INCIDENT ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. THERE'S A COMPANY THAT'S CALLED CITY AMBULANCE, AND THEY WERE. THEY WERE CALLING SOME OF OUR VENDORS HERE IN TOWN AND SAYING THEY WERE CITY AMBULANCE, UM, WHICH WAS MISTAKEN FOR THE CITY AMBULANCE SERVICE. UM, AND SO WE FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE IN COMMUNITY. UM THIS ORDINANCE WILL, UH WILL WILL REQUIRE THEM ANNUALLY, UM, TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. UM AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING. THEY THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO OPERATE. UM, BEFORE THEY'RE SERVING OUR CITIZENS AND THEY WOULDN'T BE RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS, THEY WOULD BE MORE IN, UM, IN OUR FACILITY TRANSFERS, SO NURSING HOMES, LONG TERM CARE FACILITIES . UM OUR OUR ER S AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND WE GOT A LOT OF THESE FROM SOME SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE MS BUSINESS. AND THAT'S WE GOT, UM A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE INCORPORATED INTO THIS ORDINANCE IS AND THAT'S REALLY THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE OF THE CHANGES AND I'LL BE GLAD TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OK, THANK YOU, CHIEF BLYTHE. COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BLYTHE? COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS? UH, YES, CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, LOOKS AMAZING AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL, AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT IT SEPARATED FROM THE COST THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO CHARGE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES VERSUS TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

SO WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF TRANSPORTING. WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND TAKING CARE OF OUR CITIZENS THAT BEING SAID. IF YOU'VE REVIEWED IT, AND YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT, UH, I'M I'M GREAT WITH THAT. HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY REVIEWED IT? ABSOLUTELY UM, WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY SECRETARY. IT'S GONE THROUGH LEGAL, UM, AND VERY FEW REVISIONS WHEN WE GOT IT BACK, AND WE CORRECTED THOSE THINGS. THANK YOU. TO THAT POINT TO THE ONLY TRANSFERS THAT WE DO IN OUR HOSPITAL FACILITY. UM, AFTER WE TOOK OVER THE ANIMAL SERVICE IN OCTOBER WILL BE EMERGENCY TRANSFERS. UM AND WE DO THOSE TODAY UH AND THAT IS SOMEBODY GOES TO OUR HOSPITAL AND NEEDS TO BE ADMITTED IN AN EMERGENCY AND WE TREAT THOSE JUST LIKE A 911 CALL. WE RESPOND THERE. UM, AS SOON AS WE CAN GET SOMEBODY DISPATCHED AND TRANSFER THOSE WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO TO DO THOSE AT THE HOSPITAL BUT IN HER HOSPITAL OR OR IN HER INNER FACILITY TRANSFERS WILL BE HANDLED BY PRIVATE, UH, PRIVATE AGENCIES. OK, COUNCILMAN MELLI. THANK YOU, CHIEF. IN OUR FACILITY CALLS, UH, THE TRANSFERS. IT'S THE PROCESS OF THEM REGISTERING RIGHT NOW. IS THERE A PROCESS JUST WE DON'T HAVE ONE NOW, EXCEPT FOR CURRENT CONTRACT, UM, ALLOWS OUR

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THANKS. OK AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT TOO THAT BY MAKING SURE THEY'RE REGISTERED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN THERE IS THE PROVISION THAT THEY HAVE INSURANCE. ABSOLUTELY SO BECAUSE THAT IS OBVIOUSLY IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT. IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. UM AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY THEY HAVE COVERAGE.

AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN OUR IN OUR REGION FOR CITIES TO REQUIRE THAT, UM, IN IN FACT IN DALLAS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO HERE, BUT IN DALLAS, THEY HAVE TO THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. SO THE COMPANY DOES, BUT SO DO THE PEOPLE THAT THAT WORK ON THEIR ON THEIR UNITS, SO WE DON'T WANNA GO THERE. BUT UM, I THINK THIS WILL COVER IN AND DO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. OK? ANYTHING ELSE, CHIEF. THAT'S IT, OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL. OR STAFF. OK, NO PUBLIC HEARING SO ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT I'D BE OPEN TO A MOTION ON THE ITEM. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS PRESENTED. OK? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. A SECOND. MOTION WITH THE SECOND TO APPROVE COUNCIL POLICE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES

[WS1. Discuss the International Jet Ski tournament at Collin Park, located at 2200 Saint Paul Road, Wylie, Texas.]

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YOU'VE GOT JET SKIS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A FATHER AND A SON OR A, UH UH, A HUSBAND AND A WIFE THAT BOTH RACE SO IT'S TWO PEOPLE. MAYBE ON ON JET SKI, UH, 2 TO 3. PEOPLE ON ONE JET SKI, UM, SPECTATORS, WHICH IS COMMON AT SOME OF THEIRS, UH 350, PLUS SPECTATORS THAT COME OUT. UM I DON'T KNOW. CRAIG SEEMED TO THINK THAT WE MAY END UP HAVING A FEW MORE ON THAT. UM THIS IS THE CITY OF WILEY HAS THIS LAKE SITTING RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD. UM LET'S USE IT. UM I'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, WORKING AT THE MARINA, UH, WITH A BUSINESS AND, UH, THERE'S JUST THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTION GOING ON OUT THERE OTHER THAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE BOATS IN THE SLIPS OUT THERE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE, UH THE CITY MORE INVOLVED OUT THERE. UH, OTHER THAN THIS JET SKI TOURNAMENT. WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER CONCERT. UH, OPPORTUNITIES THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE GONNA, UH TRANSPIRE THIS SUMMER. UM BUT WITH THIS GROUP THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN WITH THE JET SKI TOURNAMENT, WE'RE PUTTING HEADS IN BEDS. UH WE'VE GOT FOUR DAYS LISTED ON THERE. AUGUST 1 THROUGH FOUR. THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE HERE A DAY OR TWO. PRIOR TO THAT. JUST DOING SOME SETTING UP AND SOME SCOUTING AROUND, AND THAT'S SOME PEOPLE FROM THE NATIONAL JET SKI TOURNAMENT. UM DOWN BELOW. UH, I LISTED A FEW OF THE NATIONAL SPONSORS. UH Y'ALL MAY NOT BE INTO JET SKIING , BUT, UH, PROBABLY NOT. BUT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH OAKLEY SUNGLASSES. THOSE GUYS ARE GONNA BE OUT THERE, UH, YAMAHA SIDO KAWASAKI YETI COOLERS. THESE ARE ALL NATIONAL GUYS THAT ARE GONNA BE OUT THERE. SETTING UP TENT SELLING MERCHANDISE, GIVING AWAY FREE MERCHANDISE AND WHATNOT. UM AND THEN SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE LISTED ON THERE. THAT UH, YOU MIGHT NOT BE AS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT, UH LIKE CRAIG SAID CRAIG AND I AND CHEAP LIFE, UH, KIND OF WENT OUT THERE AND DID AN OVERVIEW LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY CAME UP WITH AN IDEA WHERE WE WANT TO, UH, HOST ALL OF THIS. AND CRAIG, ARE WE GONNA LOOK AT THAT RIGHT NOW? UM BECAUSE WHAT DO YOU OWN HERE? HERE WE GO. YEAH SO IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THE OVERVIEW MAP, SO THE PENINSULA TO THE NORTH, THERE IS WHERE WHAT HE WAS PLANNING TO STAGE ALL OF THE, UH, JET SKI ACTIVITIES. UH, ALONG WITH THE TEAMS, UH, THEY WOULD VIEW ALL ALONG. UH, IT'S GONNA CALL IT A COAST BUT ALONG THE BANK, WELL, YOU'VE GOT AN INLET RIGHT THERE. THAT UH, IT WILL HOUSE BOTH OF THE JET SKI COURSES. UM, IN THAT RED CIRCLE RIGHT THERE. AND UM AND THEN DOWN BELOW THAT IS, UH RIGHT IN HERE AS A PARKING LOT. THIS IS KIND OF THE STAGING AREA. UH, WHERE THE JET SKIS WELL, BASICALLY WILL START FROM THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, SECTION. IF Y'ALL Y'ALL SEE THAT RIGHT THERE. UM ALONE. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START FROM, UH, IN RACE ABOUT, UH, REALLY, TO THE TOP OF THAT S AND T IN SKI TOURNAMENT. UM, THAT'S WHERE THE COURSE WOULD BE. AND THEN, UH, IF WE MOVE SOUTH IN THE DARK GREEN AREA, UH, THAT'S AN AREA THAT IS MORE IN THE, UH IN THE COLLIN PARK MARINA SECTION. IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN OUT THERE , THAT'S THE PUBLIC BEACH RIGHT THERE. UH THE CONCERT AREAS WHERE CRAIG AND I AND CHEAP LIFE I TALKED ABOUT DOING A, UH, CONCERT. YEAH. SO UH, JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD IN SPONSORING THAT EVENT, SO IN LOOKING AT A LITTLE CLOSER, UH, THE RED RECTANGLE DENOTES THE STAGE AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S LOCATED TO THE SOUTH. THERE ARE RESTROOMS AND TO THE SOUTH OF THAT WOULD BE THE MARINA AREA.

UH, HERE WOULD BE THE VIEWS OF THE CONCERT AREA. UH THIS WOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS THE STAGE IN

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UH, THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS WHERE THE CONCERT GOERS WOULD BE WATCHING THE SHOW SITTING UP ON THAT FAIRLY LARGE HILL PICTURE. DON'T REALLY DO IT. JUSTICE I DON'T THINK BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG HILL. THERE THAT'S SPREAD OUT. UH, WE WOULD THINK THAT RESTROOMS WOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL ALONG WITH, UH, FOOD TRUCKS AND OTHER AMENITIES. UH, FOR PEOPLE ATTENDING THE SHOW, SO THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE WANTED TO PUT OUT WHEN WOODY CAME AND APPROACHED US ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED IN THE EVENT SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO GROW IT, UH, TO ENHANCE IT, UH, WITH THAT USE OF HOT TAX WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND. UH, A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW, UH, OF THE HOTEL HOTEL FRONT OF THE OCCUPANCY FUND. UH, RIGHT DOWN THE EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES MEET PRETTY CLOSE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITH A BIT OF A SURPLUS, BUT THERE IS AAA LARGE FUND BALANCE IN THAT. IN THE OCCUPANCY FUND RIGHT NOW, UH, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK SPECIFICS BECAUSE I AM NOT FINANCE. UH BUT IT IT'S SEVERAL $100,000 IN THAT, UH WITH THAT BALANCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IDEA. GET A LITTLE DIRECTION IF YOU WOULD WANT US TO, UH, PURSUE THAT TYPE OF AN EVENT I ESTIMATE TO DO A CONCERT, UH, THAT WOULD DRAW A REGIONAL DRAW. UH THAT COST TO SPONSOR THAT EVENT, UH, WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $100,000 WHEN YOU LOOK AT STAGING AROUND 20,000 TO GET A KNOWN ARTIST, A TEXAS COUNTRY ARTIST TALKING ABOUT $50,000.25 TO $60,000.

THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. UH, POWER SUPPLY GENERATOR. UH, PORT , A POTTIES. AND THEN WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT NEED TO BE DONE. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WOULD BE AN ENHANCEMENT AGAIN TO THE EXISTING TOURNAMENT, WHICH IS ALREADY MOVING FORWARD THAT THIS COULD BE DONE ON ANY SCALE WE WANT ON DOWN TO NO INVOLVEMENT YOU KNOW ON DOWN TO SUPPORTING THE JET SKI TOURNAMENT, OR, UH, ENHANCING IT TO THIS POTENTIAL, LARGER EVENT.

OK MAYOR PROTON. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UM, WITH THE TURNOUT EXPECTED AT AROUND 500 PEOPLE I BELIEVE IS WHAT THE ESTIMATE WAS TO INCLUDE ATTENDEES AS WELL AS RACERS. UM. WHAT'S THE ENTRY FEE FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO TO OBSERVE, USUALLY ON AVERAGE, ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO $12. AND THAT'S PER PERSON. THAT'S PER PERSON, AND THAT'S FOR THE, UH, 33 DAY RACE. SO THAT'S FOR ALL THREE DAYS. BUY ONE TICKET. CORRECT, OK? SO IF YOU WERE GONNA THROW A CONCERT, WHAT WOULD THE TICKET COST BE FOR THE CONCERT? YEAH. SO WE WERE. YEAH I'LL GO TO CRAIG ON THAT. SO WE SPECIFICALLY MADE IT ON THAT SATURDAY NIGHT IN THE EVENING, SO WE WERE STILL TALKING THROUGH LOGISTICS. HOW WE WOULD APPROACH THAT, UM WE JUST WANT ROY WANTED TO GET, UH A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY STILL. I MEAN , THERE'S A LOT TO WORK THROUGH. UH, IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS IN PUTTING IT TOGETHER, UH, THERE COULD BE A HYBRID WHERE THE PEOPLE COMING IN TO WATCH THE SHOW CAN ATTEND THE CONCERT. AND THEN IN ADDITION, UH, WITH A DECENT NAME, ACT II. I CONSERVATIVELY, UH, SAY WE WOULD GET AROUND 5000 PEOPLE, UH, 6000 PEOPLE TO THE CONCERT COMPONENT. I ALSO DO THINK THAT WITH THAT PUBLICITY AND SO FORTH. I THINK YOUR ATTENDEE NUMBERS AND PEOPLE WATCHING THE JET SKI TOURNAMENT WILL GO UP AS WELL. I. I DON'T HAVE ANY I. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE AND I THINK ALSO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IT IT REALLY IS GONNA DEPEND ON. UH WHAT ACT WE HAVE OUT THERE IF WE'RE GETTING GEORGE STRA, OR IF WE'RE GETTING, UH CRAIG AND, UH, HIS MISFIT BAND YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR SO I GUESS THE OTHER COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT.

WOULD COME TO MIND AS THE LOCAL VENDORS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS MERCHANDISE, ET CETERA.

WILL THEY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL VENDORS TO PARTICIPATE? UH SO THEIR MERCHANDISE AS WELL AS FOOD VENDORS, ABSOLUTELY, YES. ZERO FEE FOR THEM TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL. UH YEAH, THEY'RE PROBABLY WOULD BE JUST BECAUSE WITH THESE WITH EVENTS LIKE THIS YOU DO WANNA HAVE THE BUY IN AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE INVESTMENT IN IT THAT THEY WILL SHOW UP? THEY'RE AND BE A

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BUT I'M ASSUMING THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE FOR A 5000 PERSON CONCERT. YEAH. AND THAT MAY BE CORE LAND AS WELL. I DON'T A LOT OF DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. YES. SO THAT WILL BE COLLIN COUNTY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO US IF THEY DON'T HAVE PERSONNEL, WHICH THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT. AND THEN WE WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT, OK? IF WE CAN. OK? THANK YOU SO THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE SMOOTHED OUT BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US. IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING. HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK OVERALL? UM IN WILEY PD WAS IN ON OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION. UH, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR JURISDICTION GO AHEAD. I. I THINK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET DOWN INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THIS THING AND HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO WORK. IT'S MORE OF A IS COUNCIL OPEN TO THE IDEA OF, UM HEARING MORE ABOUT IT USING HOTEL MOTEL. FINES TO SUPPORT A CONCERT. UM IS REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DIRECTION OF UH, THE PLANNING STAGES OF IT. SO, UM I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THAT WE KIND OF KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL AND NOT NOT TRY TO FIGURE OUT ALL THE DETAILS AT THIS POINT. YEAH I WASN'T TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS GONNA COME OUT. MY THE FOOD VENDOR PORTION IS A MUST. IF OUR HOTEL MOTEL TAX IS GONNA BE USED, I DO ALSO WANT THE PARTICIPANTS SPECIFICALLY THE JET SKI PARTICIPANT PARTICIPANTS TO USE OUR HOTELS. SO MAYBE WHOEVER THE SP THE SHOW ON TOGETHER, I'D LIKE THEM TO BOOK. THE ROOMS IN OUR HOTELS WITHIN OUR CITY AND NOT A DIFFERENT CITY AND THEN USE THE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FOR. UM, AND THE SECURITY. THOSE ARE THE THREE ABSOLUTELY. IF THOSE THREE COME IN FRONT OF ME, I'M HAPPY TO USE TO FOOD VENDORS. WE'VE ALREADY CONTACTED AND WE HAVE A LIST. THEY'RE ALL LOCAL. THEY'RE ALL. UH, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THEM. UH, THEY'RE OUT DOWN ON BALLARD. A LOT OF THEM. UH SAME WITH THE, UH, HOTELS AND ANY OF THE B AND BS. IT'S ALL LOCAL. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. WE'RE HAVING IT IN OUR TOWN. UH, WE NEED TO USE LOCAL THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO YOUR AGREEMENT THAT IS SET UP WITH THE CORE ALREADY FOR THE EXISTING, UM, RACE THAT SET.

WHAT IS THAT AGREEMENT AS FAR AS THAT AGREEMENT IS STILL IN THE PROCESS WITH THE CORPS. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HAD SOME DEALINGS WITH CORE, UH, OVER A COUPLE OF PARKS AND, UH, YOU KNOW HOW THEY

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SOMETHING THAT WORKS GOOD, BUT I WOULD I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. I MEAN, I HAVE NOT BROUGHT THIS UP TO CRAIG YET. BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING FROM THE SOMETHING FROM THE COUNCIL THAT SAID, HEY, WE'RE BEHIND THIS CORE. YOU KNOW A LETTER TO THE CORE. AS YOU KNOW, THEY, UH THEY PUT UP A LOT OF HOOPS, AND, UH, IT'S A LOT OF JUMPING. AND UH, YOU KNOW, I IF WE, UH, THIS ISN'T THE ONLY EVENT I WANNA DO. I I'VE GOT LOTS OF STUFF ON THE, UH, ON THE AGENDA. AND UH, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT I COULD GET THAT, UH, IS FROM YOU KNOW THE CITY OF WILEY THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE BEHIND THIS. 110% YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? UH, THAT WOULD YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HELP. UM, MOVE THE CORE. I WOULD THINK. THANK YOU OK? ALL RIGHT.

SO COUNCILMAN DUKE. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I GENERALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M FOR IT. AND LIKE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION AND THEN MORE INTO THE WEEDS. BUT RIGHT, I I'M FOR IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO BE BEHIND THIS EVENT . BECAUSE WE KNOW EARLIER LAST YEAR WE WON THE SIN INTO IMPROVING THE LAKE AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT I THINK THIS WILL HELP. IF IT GOES WELL, I THINK THIS WILL HELP ALERT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CORE. AND IT WILL PUT THE CITY IN A GOOD SPOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AGAIN WE'VE GOT A HUGE RESOURCE SITTING RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD. LET'S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. LET'S YOU USE IT GUYS. OK? COUNCILMAN HOOVER. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, IT'S A WORK SESSION, SO I'M GONNA ASK EVERYONE FOR THEIR GENERAL THOUGHTS AND YOU CAN KEEP IT AS HIGH LEVEL AS YOU ARE INTERESTED AND WANT TO MOVE FORWARD OR OR IT'S NOT A I'M INTERESTED. WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. UM I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTING. WILEY'S GOOD SIDE. THE LAKE AND THE OTHER STUFF. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCILMAN STRANG. YEAH, I SUPPORT THE IDEA JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S FEASIBLE AND SEE SOME MORE DETAILED STUFF. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR WAY, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD EVENT AND HELP PUT BY ON THE MAP. THANK YOU, AND THAT LEAVES ME AND I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S DETAILS AND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT. BUT AT THIS STAGE FOR TAKING THE NEXT STEP FORWARD AT A HIGH LEVEL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT HAPPEN. YEAH THAT SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH, THERE DEFINITELY ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK INTO, BUT JUST WANTED TO GET THE OVERALL FEELING AND DIRECTION. THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL GOT THIS IN A PACKET. THIS WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE. UM I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT THAT, UH, IT'S A CONCERT CALENDAR STARTING IN MAY. WE'RE UH IT'S ALREADY IN THE GO. WE'RE WE'RE DOING IT.

I'M DOING IT. BUT IT'S TOO. UH IT'S TOO CONCERT EVENTS BASICALLY, JUST LIKE THEY DO IN ROCKWALL OVER AT THE HARBOR. IT'S CONCERT ON THE LAKE. I'M HOSTING THAT WE'RE PUTTING IT ON . WE'RE DOING IT AT COLLIN PARK. I'VE GOT A LOT OF THE SAME, UH, BANDS THAT ARE GONNA PLAY OVER AT THE HARBOR ARE GONNA BE PLAYING RIGHT HERE IN YOUR BACKYARD. UM IT'S SIGNED, SEALED , DELIVERED. UH I THINK WE START OUT WITH A SALTY DOGS. IF YOU GUYS ARE, UH, VAGUELY FAMILIAR WITH THAT GROUP AT ALL, UM BUT NO I. I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW THE JET SKI TOURNAMENT, HELPING OUT ON THAT AND THEN POSSIBLY, UH, VENTURING IN WITH ME ON THESE, UH, CONCERTS ON THE LAKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, IMPLEMENT AND, UH, AGAIN THAT'S HAPPENING THIS SUMMER. WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD, AND, UH, CRAIG WILL WILL SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN. IT SOUNDS I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE STARTED. OK, SO BEFORE WE MOVE TO OUR SECOND WORK SESSION, I'LL LET THEM GET SET UP. THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT READY, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE US JUST A QUICK COUPLE OF MINUTE BREAK. WITH THAT. I'LL BRING US BACK, UH, INTO OUR WORK SESSIONS.

[WS2. Discuss 5 Year Projections for 4B Fund, Utility Fund, and General Fund.]

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UM THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT, UM I WILL INCLUDE WITH THAT LIST OF BEING THE ANIMAL SHELTER. UM THE RELOCATION OF FIRE STATION ONE AND TWO AND FIRE STATION FIVE. UM SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD DESIRE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT SOME POINT, UH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AT, UM CREATING A BOND COMMITTEE AND UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT COME OUT OF THAT, AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. UM SO ANY QUESTIONS ON ON, UH, THE CAPITAL PLAN BEFORE I MOVE ON MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH. SO UH, MR CITY MANAGER. A COUPLE OF. ITEMS THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A BOND COMMITTEE WOULD BE NOT ONLY THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WHICH WAS BASICALLY ROADS, ETCETERA, BUT TO INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT PARKS MIGHT HAVE OR ANYTHING FROM THEIR MASTER PLAN THAT WE MISSED OR MIGHT HAVE SKIPPED OVER IN THE TOP 10 ITEMS. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LISTED OUT IN THIS PORTION AS WELL. BUT I'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THOSE IN THAT FOR CONSIDERATION IF WE DO PUT TOGETHER A BOND. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

UM SO MOVING FORWARD. UM UH UH, I WANNA. USE AN ANALOGY OF A THREE LEGGED STOOL. UM AS WE AS WE MOVE INTO THIS, UM FIVE YEAR PROJECTION PLAN AND UM, I WANT YOU TO ENVISION A THREE LEGGED STOOL ON ONE OF THOSE LEGS BEING, UM PROPERTY TAX. ONE OF THOSE LEGS BEING SALES TAX. AND ONE OF THOSE LEGS BEING, UM, THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE PROVIDE OR OR OUR PERSONNEL. AND I FEEL THAT, UM ANY TIME ONE OF THOSE LEGS UH, IS OUT OF BALANCE THAN THE STOOLS OFF BALANCE. AND ON TOP OF THAT STOOL ARE THE 60,000 PLUS RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE THAT YOU REPRESENT. ON A DAILY BASIS, THE VISITORS THAT COME TO THIS CITY UM, SO WHEN ONE OF THOSE LEGS IS OUT OF BALANCE UM IT CREATES A DISRUPTION IN OUR SERVICE LEVEL. UH I FEEL LIKE, UM, AS A COUNCIL, YOU HAVE SET A LEVEL OF SERVICE, THE LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS FOR US TO UPHOLD EVERY DAY. UM AND CURRENTLY. I FEEL THAT, UM TWO OF THOSE LEGS ON THAT STOOL ARE OUT OF BALANCE. ONE OF THOSE BEING PROPERTY TAX. AND ONE OF THOSE BEING, UM THE PERSONNEL THAT THAT ARE UM. HARD TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE TO OUR OUR RESIDENTS. AND VISITORS. UM. SO IW I WANNA DISCUSS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTIONS. UM, THE TOPIC OF SALARIES. UH, ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE FACED. UM IN THE PAST YEAR OR SO WITH PUBLIC WORKS. AND THE VACANCIES THAT WE'VE HAD UPWARDS OF 10 OR 12, AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE SIX UM AND PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, WE ARE BEGINNING TO REACH A POINT, AND I KNOW, UH, BOTH CHIEF HENDERSON AND CHIEF BLYTHE HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS OVER US GETTING TO A POINT OF UH, LOSING PEOPLE FOR PAY. UM, BEFORE. IN YEARS PAST. THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE CASE, BUT WE ARE BEGINNING TO FACE THAT CHALLENGE. UH, CURRENTLY, UH, IN PD, UM, THERE ARE FIVE VACANCIES. UM AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE FIVE POSITIONS THAT CHIEF HENDERSON WAS, UH, INCLUDED IN HIS BUDGET THIS YEAR. UM WE ARE. WE ALSO, UM ARE POTENTIALLY UH, GONNA HAVE SIX MORE VACANCIES. NPD, UH, BECAUSE OF PAY. UM. UH, SENT Y'ALL INFORMATION TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE WE FELL WITHIN OUR PURE CITIES. UM THE PAST DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL HAS BEEN FOR US TO BE A 95% OF THE AVERAGE OF OUR PURE CITIES. THAT

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AND THEN THEY'LL LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR TWO OR $3 MORE AN HOUR. UM CHIEF HENDERSON WAS TELLING ME THE OTHER DAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE A 10 YEAR OFFICER. UM. THAT AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE CITY. IF IT'S ALLEN OR RICHARDSON. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. THEY'RE COMPARABLE PAY.

UM, A 10 YEAR, OFFICER. IS IN THEIR PROCESS. TO, UM, TAKE A JOB. TO TOP OUT AT 100 AND $8000. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE TOP OUT AT $108,000. UM. BUT MY CONCERN IS WE'RE POTENTIALLY LOSING A 10 YEAR, OFFICER. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS CRITICAL THAT, UM NOT ONLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND I AND I'M NOT UP HERE . OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC SAFETY AS THE INFORMATION THAT I SENT YOU, BUT I'M NOT UP HERE. UM JUST SPEAKING ON PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M UP HERE SPEAKING ON ALL EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE UM DO WE WANT. TENURED EMPLOYEES, OR DO WE WANNA CONTINUE TO TRAIN EMPLOYEES? UM I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL KNOW THE COST OF HIRING NEW EMPLOYEES. UM THE CITY OF WILEY HAS A GOOD REPUTATION FOR HIRING GOOD EMPLOYEES. SO WHY WOULD AN ALLEN OR RICHARDSON NOT HIRE A 10 YEAR OFFICER WHO HAS UM HAD EXPERIENCES. WHETHER IT BE ON THE SWAT TEAM OR CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER OR A DETECTIVE OR A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER. OR ANY OTHER. COMBINATION OF, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT THEY'RE PROVIDED HERE. SO I THINK WE'RE AT THAT CRITICAL JUNCTURE AND, UM YOU KNOW, I, I NEED Y'ALL DIRECTION ON THAT, UM ON ON ON ON. YOU KNOW THE CONSENSUS OF KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED. OK TO MAYOR PRO T. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO. MISTER PARKER. I'M CONFUSED AS TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE. MEMORY LAST YEAR. WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PAY INCREASES WITH PUBLIC SAFETY SPECIFICALLY.

AND I SAT HERE AND ASKED IF THE SOLUTION THAT WE WERE BROUGHT WOULD GET US INTO THE PERCENTAGE

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CORRECT AND WE'VE DONE THAT. EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WE HAVE WE HAVE YET TO WORK WITH. THE CITY STAFF TO BRING THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO WHERE WE KEEP CHASING THIS. THIS BALL THAT'S ROLLING FORWARD. AND WE DO THE SAME THING WITH THE STAFF AND WE DO EVERY OTHER YEAR. WE DO A, UH, COMPETITIVE SALARY ANALYSIS. AND I DON'T THINK YET. WE'VE SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU HAVE NOT COME OUT AND SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU'RE CORRECT THERE. BUT ADOPTING THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.

THE LAST EIGHT YEARS IN A ROW HAS TIED OUR HANDS. AND THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED IN MY OPINION.

AND I AND, UM. SO YOU SAY THAT, BUT WE HAD THE DISCUSSION. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET DISCUSSION AND LOOKED AT THE VIDEOS AND WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND OVERALL BUDGET RATE AND WHAT WAS GOING TO BE IN IT WHERE WE WOULD PULL STUFF FROM BUT WHEN THE CONVERSATION WAS HAD AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT PAY CHANGES SPECIFICALLY BASED ON WHAT WE HAD SEEN. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED . WILL THIS GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE? THE ANSWER WAS YES. AND THAT WAS STILL PART OF THE BUDGET. WE DIDN'T WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T TOLD. WE NEED TWICE THAT AMOUNT IN ORDER TO GET THERE AND THEN WE RESPONDED. WELL WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. OR YOU TOLD US IF WE'RE GOING TO HIT THIS UH, THE ONE SENT OVER THE EFFECTIVE RATE THAT WE DID. IF WE ADOPT THAT WE CAN'T MEET WHAT WE NEED TO BE ON SALARIES, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS PUT A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IN OTHER AREAS. AND I KNOW THAT YOU'LL GET INTO SOME OF THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE GAP THAT WE'RE SEEING, I I'M NOT A YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IT EXISTS. THE DATA IS THE DATA. I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE? WHEN? WHERE? HOW WE MISSED IT. TO WHERE WE PROVIDED WHAT WAS ASKED, BUT NOW WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT WAS. ABOUT HALF OR A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF JUST FOR FIRST RESPONDERS ON GETTING THEM TO WHERE WE WOULD BE, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S THE 95. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT 5% IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, BUT IT APPEARS TO BE LARGER THAN GOING FROM THE 95TH OF THE AVERAGE TO THE 100 OF THE AVERAGE. AND SO I'M I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE WHERE THAT GAP OCCURRED. SO. YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU WERE ASKED. WELL, I WAS ASKED LAST YEAR. IF THAT GOT US TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE IT ABSOLUTELY DID WITH AS AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AT THE 95% OF THE AVERAGE AND THEN, AS DATA CAME IN AND YOU HAVE RICHARDSON AND ROW LEAD AND ALL THESE OTHER CITIES GIVING THESE PAY RAISES. THAT IS OUTDATED TO ESSENTIALLY THEY JUMPED IT UP FASTER THAN WE DID. SO WE'VE BEEN CHASING OUR TAIL.

EVERY YEAR. UM AND I. APOLOGIZE IF THAT HASN'T BEEN COMMUNICATED TO YOU. BUT EVERY YEAR THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A PAY PLAN. UM WE HAVE BEEN BEHIND. WE'VE DONE IT OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD. WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO. AND ALL OF THAT, AND I'M NOT UP HERE THROWING DARTS, AND I'M NOT UP HERE. UNTHANKFUL I'M NOT UP HERE, UM. TO DISCUSS PAST DECISIONS. THOSE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE AT THE TIME AND EVERYBODY FELT THEY WERE RIGHT. I'M JUST UP HERE TO EXPRESS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND IF IT'S MY FAULT THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY, IT'S MY FAULT. WE'RE HERE TODAY. I DON'T I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO GET INTO TRYING TO AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU ARE, BUT I GUESS TO THE MAYOR PRO TIM'S POINT AND TO YOURS. IT APPEARS WE'RE OFTEN CHASING OUR TAIL ON TRYING TO CATCH UP. AND SO, II, I GUESS WHAT I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WHEN WE APPROACH THIS, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU SENT US SOME FIGURES BUT IF THAT'S WHAT'S APPROVED, IS IT ALREADY GOING TO BE OUTDATED? AND SO HOW DO WE? HOW DO WE PLAN FOR THAT? BETTER SO THAT IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING AND AGAIN WITHOUT TRYING TO GET INTO WHERE THE HECK IF WE SAY THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE CARE OF THESE THINGS AND WORK WITH YOU GUYS FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, HOW DO WE KEEP IT FROM BEING WE'RE ALWAYS BEHIND. THE WAY THE PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT IS WE TAKE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE NOW. AND WE RE EVALUATED AT MID YEAR AND MAKE TWO ADJUSTMENTS. I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO, UM. BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIES ARE, UM. THEY'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES

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OUR PEOPLE AND OUR STAFF ARE AT THE TOP OF THE BARREL. THEY'RE THEY ARE NOT ONLY THEY'RE THE BEST OF THE BEST. THAT'S WHO WE HIRE. AND WE WANNA MAINTAIN THAT. WE WANNA KEEP THEM IF WE HAVE TO DO IT A MID YEAR ADJUSTMENT TO GO BACK AND CATCH UP WITH THE CHANGES MADE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. I THINK THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE. FROM A TAX RATE STANDPOINT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE THAT THE GOAL HAS BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING TO SET OUR BUDGET BASED ON THE NON REVENUE, BUT JUST LIKE LAST YEAR, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ADOPTED. WE ADOPTED DIFFERENT THAN THE NON REVENUE, BUT IT WAS BASED ON DISCUSSIONS AND COMING UP WITH AND YOU FOUND MONEY THAT EXISTED TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF BRINGING EMS IN HOUSE. WELL, I DIDN'T FIND MONEY THAT I TOOK MONEY FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WAS NEEDED. IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. IT WASN'T FINDING MONEY AND IT WAS PLAYING A SHELL GAME SHUFFLE MONEY AROUND. WELL THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF IT . BUT THE CHALLENGE WITH DOING A MIDYEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NOT KNOWING WHAT THE TAX RATE WOULD BE. UM, IT'S JUST LIKE NOW TO THE TO GET THE. WHAT WAS PRESENTED. IF THAT'S WHAT A DECISION THAT IS MADE. IT'S A MILLION AND A HALF A YEAR. THAT'S INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE TWO CENTS. THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UM WELL RECEIVED IN THE PAST. THE BEST I RECALL. UM IT'S PRETTY WELL BEEN THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. SO LAST YEAR WHEN YOU BROUGHT THE I THINK IT WAS A $1 MILLION INCREASE IN IN PAID TO THE JUST TO PUBLIC SAFETY TO GET THEM UP. TO SPEED. THERE WAS NO PUSHBACK ON THAT. CORRECT SO, BUT THAT WAS WITHIN THE EFFECT OF TAX RATE. CERTAINLY CERTAINLY, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR MADE THE POINT EARLIER THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE, EFFECTIVE TAX RATE WHEN WE TALK, WE ARE TALKING BUDGET DISCUSSION. OUR BUDGET DISCUSSION SURROUNDING PAY FOR STAFF. IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE IN MY HEAD. FROM. THEN I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED ALL ALONG BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE STANCE THAT STAFF HAS TAKEN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SO I SO I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED THAT PAY IS LOOKED AT SEPARATELY THAN EVERYTHING ELSE IN MY HEAD. IT IS I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE OTHER SIX MEMBERS, BUT THAT'S HOW I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATED, THOUGH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT. UM. SO SO? SO THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. UM YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE'RE CHASING OUR TAILS. WE'RE GONNA BE CHASING OUR TAILS. UM YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION WAS POSED TO ME THE OTHER DAY OF HOW THESE OTHER CITIES DO IT WELL, THEY DON'T ADOPT THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE EVERY YEAR. UM RICHARDSON ADOPTED THE SAME TAX RATE LAST YEAR AS THIS YEAR. WE DO HAVE TWO OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN COUNCILMAN MAICI OR HAVE A QUESTION SO. I THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS AND TALK ABOUT EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN PREVIOUS YEARS AND INFLATION AND WHATNOT. THE BUDGET WAS PROPOSED TO US AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, OR ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, GIVE OR TAKE. THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EMS SERVICE COMING IN HOUSE AS WELL. I THINK WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. AND. THE LAST THING I WANT TO HEAR IS COUNSEL VERSUS THE CITY OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES. I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF. AND THAT REALLY HURT ME JUST WHEN THAT WAS SAID, AND I, I I'VE HEARD IT MYSELF, SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN PERSONALLY MY MEANS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE IS HAPPY HERE. THAT THIS IS NOT A PASS THROUGH CITY. THAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR HARD

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SO. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ALL NIGHT LONG. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT, AT LEAST CAPPING THE TILL THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY. SO I THINK BETWEEN YOU AND CHIEF HENDERSON COME UP WITH A PLAN SPECIFICALLY ABOUT COVERING THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT PERSONALLY STANDING. I WANT TO HEAR HOW WE'RE GONNA GET OVER IT. NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET WILL WORK TOGETHER ON HOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CITY VERSUS ST THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN, SO IT WON'T HAPPEN. CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO YOUR COMMENT, UH, ABOUT TAKING CARE OF IT NOW. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN FUND IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE. OR SALARY SAVINGS.

THE PROBLEM IS. IT'S GOING TO COST A TWO CENT TAX INCREASE NEXT YEAR. AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THAT NEXT YEAR. I WANT TO FUND IT IMMEDIATELY TO COVER THE NEED THAT IS NEEDED IMMEDIATELY ON THIS FIVE YEAR PROJECTION, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US STANDING IN HERE HAS TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON WHAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES IN FRONT OF US AT THAT NEXT YEAR. SO BUT IF WE'RE GIVING YOU IF PERSONALLY, I'M GIVING YOU A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT I'M HE. I WANT TO END THIS TODAY. THAT MEANS THAT I'M OPEN TO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO GO. AND IF I CAN GET FIVE COMMITMENTS TO THAT. THEN I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE. AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN ANY WAY. BUT AFTER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS, I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT GUN SHY. AND WE CAN'T BLAME ME FOR THAT.

SO THAT THAT IS WHY I WANTED TO SAY THAT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT TODAY, THERE IS A COMMITMENT ON THE OTHER END OF THAT, AND I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM FOR MAYOR, MAYOR PENT.

WHATEVER WAS PRESENTED TO US FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SPECIFICALLY LAST YEAR, WE HAD NO HESITATION OR PROBABLY GRANTED. GRANTED YOU WORK THAT NUMBER WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US.

I PERSONALLY COULD SPEAK ONLY FOR MYSELF BECAUSE I HAVE ONE VOTE. I UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO BRIDGE THE GAP IMMEDIATELY. PIVOT FROM WHERE WE WERE STANDING DOESN'T MATTER WHO WHAT? WHERE WAS PRESENTED AND HOW WAS IT DONE? AND MOVE FORWARD ON HOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OUR SPECIFICALLY OUR THREE PARTS THAT WE MENTIONED TONIGHT THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT, AND I'M HERE TO HELP AND GET AND BRIDGE THE GAP AND MOVE FORWARD ON HOW WE'RE GONNA HELP. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T TALK FOR A LONG TIME, AND I MIGHT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. SO Y'ALL BEAR WITH ME. UM SO FIRST I WANT TO SAY, AND I WANT TO KIND OF, SAY IT CANDIDLY AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING. IF YOU DON'T OWN A BUSINESS AND YOU DON'T HIRE

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WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF GEARING UP AND SLOWING DOWN. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SCALING DOWN SCALING UP MOVING HERE MOVING THERE. LET PEOPLE GO HIRING PEOPLE. WE HAVE CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE TO SERVE ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE ON A REGULAR BASIS. I KNOW IN TALKING WITH, UH, OFFICER WALTERS, UH, AT A RECENT MEETING. WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND IN BEING ABLE TO GET OUR POLICE IN THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE AN EIGHT MONTH CATCH UP RIGHT THIS MINUTE. RIGHT THIS MINUTE. TO MEET THE NEED THAT WE REALLY REALLY NEED TO HAVE, AND IT'S AN EVEN IN THE BUDGET. AND SO THE REASON WHAT I CAN SEE IN THAT NOT JUST IN POLICE. BUT IN PUBLIC WORKS IN THE LIBRARY REC CENTER IN YOU KNOW, IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. IS WE. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR CITIZENS. FOR THE TAX RATE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL HAVING A HARD TIME BECAUSE ALL THE MAGIC, YOU KNOW, INCUR INCREDIBLE INFLATION, ALL THINGS COSTING MORE. EVERYTHING IS COSTING MORE ALL THE WAY AROUND. BUT AS A CITY MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BASED ON HOW HOW IS HOW ARE THINGS COSTING US PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW? WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON THE NUMBERS. WHO DO WE NEED TO HIRE AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO PAY AND WHO IS CRITICAL? AND WHAT IS NOT CRITICAL AND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE AND MOST EVERYTHING IN OUR CITY HAS TO BE DONE. THERE'S VERY, VERY LIGHT LOADS THAT COULD COULD GO AWAY IN THE CITIZENS WOULDN'T SUFFER GREATLY. THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH NON EXISTENT. AND SO, UM, I'M COMMITTED TO JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT I REALIZE IT'S CHANGED THIS LAST YEAR. I KNOW WE DID A STEP PLAN. I KNOW THAT STEP PLAN WAS ALREADY THREE YEARS BEHIND FROM DOING SEVERAL YEARS OF NO RAISES THROUGH COVID. SO WHEN WE INSTITUTED THAT STEP PLAN, WE WERE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP, BUT I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT THE MARKET HAS CHANGED, BASED ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER. YOU KNOW THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THEN NOW SPECIFICALLY THE LAST YEAR YEAR AND A HALF, SO I'M OPEN TO WHAT YOU GOT TO PRESENT. UM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, WORK SESSION ON IT TO DRILL DOWN THE SPECIFICS. WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT IT. BUT THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. I DEAL WITH IT EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND IT COSTS MONEY AND YOU HIRE PEOPLE AND YOU SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY AND LIKE YOU SAY, YOU TRAIN THEM. YOU GET PEOPLE AT 90 DAYS AND YOU'RE LIKE, YES, I GOT A GOOD ONE. AND I'M ABOUT TO HAND HIM THE KEYS TO THE KINGDOM, AND THEN THE CHEESE SLIDES OFF THE CRACKER. I'LL JUST I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO BE CANDID. THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK ARE HARD TO FIND. IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE. IT WASN'T A GREAT BIG POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WERE QUALIFIED IN PROFESSIONAL AND NOW WHEN THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S HEY, THAT'S THEY WALK IN THE DOOR, AND THEY'RE NOT IN TORN JEANS TO COME INTO AN INTERVIEW. YOU'RE LIKE HALLELUJAH! I GOT SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA SHOW UP THAT MIGHT BE PROFESSIONAL. AND SO, UM, I'LL SAY THAT AND LEAVE IT BE, BUT, UM, I I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE, MR PARKER. AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, STAFF. DESIRES THIS CONVERSATION. FOR THE LONGEST TIME I TOOK IT PERSONAL. I'M REALLY TRYING NOT TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY. BUT I TAKE IT PERSONALLY BECAUSE I LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. I GREW UP HERE.

I HAVE AN EXPECTATION JUST LIKE Y'ALL DO. AND FOR YEARS, STAFF HAS FELT LIKE WE'RE JUST A BUNCH OF TALKING HEADS UP THERE, AND NOBODY ASKED ANY QUESTIONS. OR IT COMES ACROSS ACCUSATORY. AND I'VE TALKED. TO I KNOW THE MAYOR PRO TEM THE MEYER COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS COUNCILMAN LECI. AND.

ASK FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. SO I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE THAT WE'RE HAVING.

I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL. SORRY. I'LL WORK ON THAT. UM THERE'S A. SORRY I DO HAVE ONE MORE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT WHO'S BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY? SO COUNCILMAN STRING? I'M NOT GONNA START CRYING UP HERE. OH, YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SORRY. HE'S BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY THROUGH ALL OF

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YOU KNOW, A FIREFIGHTER CAN GO TO PLANO TODAY AND TOP OUT AT 100 AND 10,000 IN TWO YEARS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT REASONABLE FOR US TO EVER BE AT THAT LEVEL. WHAT COULD WE BE WITHIN A YOU KNOW? TO YOUR POINT TO INTERFERE. OFFERING A COMPETITIVE PAY AND. TRAINING EMPLOY. YEAH I MEAN, WHY DO WE WANT TO TRAIN TRAIN EMPLOYEES TO SHIP THEM OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT THAT, UH. AND ANOTHER CONCERN. I HAVE. THERE'S A FAIRLY LARGE GROUP OF US. THAT.

CAN REALLY WALK OUT THE DOOR AT ANY TIME. WE HAVE OUR TIME IN WE HAVE 20 PLUS 30 YEAR 20 TO 30, YOU KNOW, SO IN THE NEXT 7 TO 10 YEARS, THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG GROUP OF US THAT DECIDE TO HANG IT UP. SO WE HAVE THIS GROUP IN THE MIDDLE. THAT IS HOPEFULLY GONNA BE HERE. TO TAKE OUR PLACES. BUT THAT GROUP IS ALSO WHEN THEY TAKE OUR PLACES HAS GOT ABOUT 7 TO 10 YEARS. SO THEN WE HAVE THIS GROUP DOWN HERE AT THE BOTTOM. THAT'S PROBABLY GOT LESS THAN FIVE YEARS IN THAT'S THE GROUP. WE'RE TRYING TO HANG ON TO. TO TAKE THAT GROUP IN THE MIDDLE. AND IF WE CAN'T THAT'S JUST A REVOLVING DOOR DOWN THERE AND YOU KNOW, AND I'M I'M NOT. I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND HOPEFULLY THOSE LISTENING TO ME DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY. IF THEY DO, IT WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME BUT UM DO WE WANT A BUNCH OF ONE OR TWO YEAR OFFICERS? OR ONE OR TWO YEAR, PARAMEDICS. RUNNING AROUND OUR CITY, AND THAT'S OUR AVERAGE TENURE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US DO AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOT ME CONCERNED. UM SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US. UM ONE OTHER LITTLE FACTOR. I WAS WANTED TO THROW IN THERE THAT THAT I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE IS AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS, THAT THAT I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.

UM. WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE A BUDGET BASED ON A TAX RATE. INSTEAD OF CREATING A BUDGET BASED ON A SERVICE LEVEL. MAYBE WE TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY. MAYBE MAYBE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG.

MAYBE THE INFORMATION WE FELT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM COUNSEL. MAYBE WE WOULD MISINTERPRETED THAT. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, I USED TO BE A MANAGER FOR MANY YEARS. YOU NEED TO BUDGET WHAT YOU NEED. YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE PEOPLE ABOVE YOU TO DECIDE AND TELL YOU WELL, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MUCH MONEY TO TRIM OUT OF THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I USED TO GO TO THAT EVERY YEAR. UM I IS A FORMER MANAGER WOULD NEVER CONSTRAINED THE PEOPLE UNDER ME TO SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN HAVE IN A BUDGET BASED ON THAT. I'D RATHER THEM COME TO ME WITH WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND THEN TELL THEM OK, WELL, NOW YOU NEED TO CUT. THAT'S MY GUIDANCE. OK, THANKS. YES, SIR. UH OH. SORRY. YOU KINDA ASKED, AND I BEFORE WE MOVE FURTHER. I KNOW YOU GOT OTHER SLIDES AND THINGS. BUT THE TOP OF THE CAKE HERE I KNOW, BUT I THINK EVERYONE HERE THAT'S YOU AND COUNCIL WOULD AGREE. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST PRESSING PART OF THE DISCUSSION. NOT THAT THE REST ISN'T IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST PRESSING. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THERE'S SEVEN OF US AS YOU MENTIONED. YOU DON'T

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GO AHEAD. YES. SO I GUESS I THINK WHAT YOU'RE POKING AT IS, CAN YOU GET BACK TO US IN A FAIRLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO LET US KNOW WHAT A MIDYEAR INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET US BACK TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED TOO SINCE AND THAT'S A COMMITMENT AND I THINK THAT, UH, MR MAICI BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT A WE WANT TO DO I WANNA DO RIGHT NOW. WHATEVER IS POSSIBLE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHATEVER WE DO RIGHT NOW WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T PAY IT TODAY AND NOT CONTINUE TO PAY IT TOMORROW BECAUSE IF YOU PAY IT TODAY, AND YOU GET DOWN TO TOMORROW AND CUT IT, THEN YOU'VE DONE NOTHING TO HELP ANYBODY. SO I THINK THAT IF THE IMPLICATION IS TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO PAY FROM GENERAL FUND NOW AT THE 1.5 THAT IS AUTOMATICALLY INCREASING. TWO CENTS NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. SO THEN WE ALSO NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE REMAINDER OF STAFFING LEVELS. AND HOW CAN WE BE EFFECTIVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE MIDYEAR? AND PROTECT. WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND GET THE CALIBER OF EMPLOYEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THAT'S WHERE I FEEL THAT THE CONVERSATION IS GOING AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE. COUNCILOR WILLIAMS. I JUST WANT TO JUMP IN AND PIGGYBACK THAT IF I CAN, UM THE JUST THE FACT THAT IF WE IF WE WERE TO VOTE ON THAT IT'S A POSSIBLE INCREASE. IT'S NOT AN INCREASE.

UNTIL THE BUDGET COMES BACK, AND EVERYTHING IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ANY ONE TIME PURCHASES THAT FELL OFF AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF POSSIBILITIES THAT COULD COME. BUT OUT OF THAT IT COULD BE AN INCREASE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE FACT OF HEY, IT MAY BE AN INCREASE OF THAT AND OUR BUDGET TO YOUR POINT, OUR BUDGET HAS SHIFTED. TO A HIGHER NUMBER OF RECURRING EXPENSES THAN ONE TIME EXPENSES, SO WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT THAT FALLS OFF FROM ONE TIME EXPENSES, WHICH MAKES SENSE. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT DISCLAIMER TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT AN ABSOLUTE JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER FACTORS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR THANK YOU. OK, COUNCILOR MEIC. YEAH, I JUST WANNA ADD. THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED. BETWEEN THE THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE. I DON'T I THINK WE'RE PERSONALLY I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WHEN THAT TIME COMES BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE DOING TODAY OR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED TO OUR BUDGET. YOU KNOW, WE GOT WE'RE TAKING OVER THE EMS PROGRAM, WHICH HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR WILL YIELD SOME INCOME COMING TOWARDS US THAT WE TOOK A HIT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE DISCUSSED.

THERE IS MONEY IN THE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE IS MONEY THERE THAT FIVE OPEN SEATS THAT WE HAVE THE FIVE CURRENT OPEN SEATS THAT WE HAVE. SO THAT'S 10. THERE IS MONEY THERE. THAT'S WE CAN USE TO FILL THAT GAP AND PUT FOLKS ON THE STREETS TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS. THE OLD THREE DEPARTMENTS NEED I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THIS THE WHOLE BUDGET. I THINK THE THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED TONIGHT. ARE THE ONES THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. IMMEDIATELY LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE. LOOK AT THE FUTURE.

WE'VE DONE THIS WITH MANUFACTURING WITH OTHER JOBS THAT WE CREATED. WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WORKED WITH COLIN ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS THAT THEY CAN FILL THE POSITIONS. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. WITH. YOU KNOW, YOUNG, UH, POLICE OFFICERS THROUGH OUR HIGH SCHOOL FIREFIGHTERS THAT WANT TO BE FIREFIGHTERS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF AN INCOME STREAM OF FOLKS. CITIZENS WHILE THEY LIVE WHILE THEY CAN FILL THESE NEEDS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING LATER TO DISCUSS. WHAT I AM CONCERNED IS OVERWORKING OUR FORCE TODAY I UNDERSTAND, AND THAT IS SHOULD STOP IMMEDIATELY. AND IF THEY ARE WORKING OVERTIME, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING TREATED AND COMPENSATED FAIRLY. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY FEEL APPRECIATED BY PERSONALLY BY ME AND BY THIS COUNCIL AND BY THE STAFF I UNDERSTAND SO MAYOR PROTON SO I CAN APPRECIATE THE

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OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF. WE ALL KNOW WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH IT ALL. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO GET ON A BUILD OUT WHETHER IT TAKES FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, BUT IF WE DON'T GET PEOPLE IN THE DOOR AND KEEP THE PEOPLE THAT WE GET IN THE DOOR NOW, IF WE DON'T KEEP OUR GOOD EMPLOYEES AND MAKE THAT CHANGE NOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE TRY TO DO TO OPEN NEW POSITIONS IN THE FUTURE. CORRECT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL HAVING A REVOLVING DOOR AND TO YOUR POINT OF LACK OF EXPERIENCE FOR TRAINING PEOPLE TO LEAVE, ESSENTIALLY AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO BE. SO MY PERSPECTIVE AND MY COMMITMENT MYSELF. WOULD BE. I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE CHANGES BROUGHT BACK AND THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE FROM A SALARY PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE CARVED OUT. SO YOU YOU LET'S SAY YOU START YOUR BUDGET AT NO NEW REVENUE, PLUS WHATEVER IT'S COSTING FOR THE MIDYEAR CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET STARTS. AGAIN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON ALL THE OTHER PIECES THAT GO INTO IT, BUT YOU'RE STARTING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT MAKING THOSE PAY CHANGES DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF JUST NEW REVENUE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I HOPE I'M EXPLAINING THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE, M, SO ESSENTIALLY, YOUR BUDGET STARTS NO NEW REVENUE, PLUS WHATEVER. AND THEN WE DISCUSS ANY OTHER NEEDS THAT TYPE OF THING. YES SIR. SO YEAH, AND I THINK THAT I THINK THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAD SAID THE SAME THING. UM COUNCILMAN STRANG LET YOU ASK COM AND OR COMMENT, AND I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYONE TO COMMENT ON THEIR OPINION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE DIRECTION ON THAT AND AGAIN BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT POTENTIALLY FIXED NOW THAT'S THE MOST URGENT THING. I THINK THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US COUNCILMAN ST. YEAH, I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, TIME IS OF ESSENCE HERE. UM, I RESPECT THE CHALLENGE THAT PLACES ON YOU. BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE EVERYONE WHOLE. UM AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION. SO IN LIGHT OF THIS DISCUSSION, WE'RE HAVING THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE KIND OF GIVING HERE. THE REST OF THE SLIDE DECK. DO THESE NUMBERS. ARE THESE ALL GONNA GET REWORKED AS A RESULT OF THAT? SOUNDS LIKE IT. YOU KNOW? FRANKLY WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT STUFF THAT'S JUST GONNA GET CHANGED. IT'S JUST A BIG, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST KIND OF A WASTE, RIGHT? I'D RATHER SEE THE NUMBERS THAT WE REALLY THINK YOU GUYS NEED. AND TALK ABOUT THAT. SO GET MY OPINION. YES, SIR. GOOD POINT. SO WE'VE GOT THREE I. I THINK I KNOW FROM OTHERS. BUT I'M GONNA LET EVERYONE COMMENT. COUNCILMAN DUKE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO, UH, THAT WE LOOK AT.

EVERY EMPLOYEE ACROSS THE BOARD IN AND FIX IT NOW. OK? COUNCILMAN. UH, HOOVER. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET ALL OF THEM ACROSS THE BOARD. ARE OUR STAFF TAKEN CARE OF, UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW. WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO STOP THE BLEEDING NOW CHIEF. WELL, I THINK IT'S COUNTER TO THE WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. I, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO CHIEF HENDERSON IS WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF PAIN. BUT WE'RE NOT ATTRACTING PEOPLE BECAUSE OF PAY AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT'S JUST A WE'RE WE'RE LOSING AT BOTH ENDS. UM AND YOU KNOW TOMMY SAYING THE SAME THING IN PUBLIC WORKS AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE PICKING ON THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS. BUT WE SEE IT ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE CITY. WE WENT ACROSS THE BOARD TAKEN CARE OF KIND OF CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING. SO OK, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I WOULD SUPPORT A MID YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT. OK AND COUNCILMAN MAICI. Y. DON'T MAKE HIM TALK AGAIN. I HOPE I HOPE THIS SENT A MESSAGE TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT COUNSEL LIZ WITH. UM AND WE WILL STAND WITH. SO I GUESS WORK ON THAT AND COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW. NOW NEXT MEETING TWO MEETINGS, I. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE I DON'T REMEMBER EXACT CYCLES. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I DON'T IF IT'S 6.5 MONTHS, I'M I'M NOT CONCERNED. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GET IT NEXT MEETING, BUT IT'LL IT'LL BE AT LEAST THE SECOND ONE IN MARCH. MID YEAR IS IN APRIL, SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK.

WE GET SPECIAL MEETINGS. YEAH, ALL SORTS OF BUT SO, SO THERE YOU'RE THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR DIRECTION AND YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT AS A GROUP. NOW WE CAN'T SPEAK FOR IF ANYTHING, CHANGES. BLESS HER. YOU HAVE OUR COMMITMENT AS A GROUP THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE EMPLOYEES

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YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE CITY ON, UH, 39. SINCE 40 CENTS. THE REST OF THAT'S FOR THE BOND. SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE'VE RUN OUR CITY LANE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, OUR SIZE AND, UH, WE EXPECT A LITTLE BIT MORE OUT OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ARE PROUD OF THAT YOU'D HAVE TO ASK THEM AND THEY MAY MAKE ME A LIAR. BUT WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME THAT I MISSPOKE. UM SO FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA GET INTO FOUR B, UM THIS IS, UH PRETTY WELL, UM. KIND OF CUT AND DRY HERE, UM OBVIOUSLY FOUR BS FUNDED THROUGH SALES TAX. UM I. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT TOP ON THERE. THE EQUIPMENT OPERATOR, UH, THAT'S FOR THE SPLASH PADS. UM, TO INCLUDE UM, THAT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE UM. THEY HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE YOU CAN SEE BELOW THERE THEIR REQUESTS FOR, UM SOME BONDS. OR OR ISSUE DEBT, OR PAY FOR IT OUT OF FUND BALANCE, HOWEVER, COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. UM SO ANY QUESTIONS ON, UH ON FOUR B. UM SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS WE USED. WE DO HAVE 10 SORRY, COUNCIL, STANG. YEAH. WHAT'S UP WITH THE CONCESSIONS AND FOUNDERS PARK? POSITIONS AT FOUNDERS PARK. IT HAS A REQUEST FOR FOUNDERS FOOTBALL CONCESSIONS. OH, JUST, UM, RENOVATING THAT. UH CONCESSION AREA. HE WOULD USE IT AND YEAH. OH, YEAH. OK. YEAH, THAT'S YOU EVERY WEEKEND. OK, COOL. YEAH. OH, I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. YES, SIR. THE SKY VIEW PROPERTY ACQUISITION, WHICH IS THAT. UM THERE'S POTENTIAL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE THAT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS POTENTIALLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD PARKLAND INTO THE CITY, DEPENDING ON THE INTEREST OF THE COUNCIL OWNERSHIP, ET CETERA.

IT'S MY CONFUSION ON THAT WAS THE COLLIN COUNTY'S, UH, LOOP ON SKY VIEW, AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GETTING CONFUSED AND TRYING TO NOT YEAH, I WAS LIKE, DID WE BUY THE LAND? IT'S A PLACE IT'S A PLACE GOT POTENTIAL LAND. UM. SO SOME ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE JUST MADE USING THIS, UH, SALES TAX INCREASE OF 10% A YEAR. UM, SERVICE FEES? UM. AND REVENUE 3% INCREASE EVERY YEAR. UM 30% FOR MERIT INCREASES AND TO COVER HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASES. 5% KIND OF WHAT? WE JUST WENT OVER.

I'M NOT GONNA REHASH THAT LINE ITEM. UM AND THEN, UH, PERCENT AND A HALF INCREASE. AND OPERATING EXPENSES. SO, UM. AND THEN JUST SOME DEBT ISSUANCE. TO FUND SOME PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. ALL THAT STUFF COME BACK TO YOU. UM TO PROVIDE DIRECTION. MAY I PUT THEM SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MR PARKER? YES IS THE 1.5% INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES? YOU THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TO COVER WITH THE INFLATION? THE MARKETS RUNNING SO. WE UPDATE THAT IN ORDER TO GET A MORE REALISTIC TO THE COST OF OPERATIONS? ABSOLUTELY ONLY BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PICTURE IS CLEAR MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IF WE SET THE EXPECTATION THAT IT'S 1.5% INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN TO MY BOSS. WHY HE'S GOT TO GET SHARP ON HIS PENCIL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, YOU KNOW, WE AND I MEAN TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED INFLATION. UM SINCE INFLATION BEGAN A FEW YEARS AGO. UM. UH I DON'T REALLY. I MEAN, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OVER THIS SLIDER, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE. UM WE RECOMMENDED USING FUND BALANCE FOR A FEW THINGS. FOUR. B DOES HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE. UM SO WE HAVE OPTIONS THERE. FOR ANY PROJECTS THAT Y'ALL MAY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. IT CAN HANDLE DEBT PAYMENTS. SO, UH, YOU KNOW ANY ISSUES OF BONDS OR DEBT. WE CAN WE CAN HANDLE THROUGH. 34 B. UH, I'M ASSUMING THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE ARE BASED ON WHAT WAS IN THE TUCSON A COUPLE OF SLIDES ABOVE. IS THAT

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LEFT OVER, SO TO SPEAK FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, 2 MILLION OF THAT WAS CARRIED FORWARD AND THEN 2 MILLION OF IT WENT BACK TO FUND BALANCE. SO UM, ALL THE DIRECTORS, I THINK, DO A GREAT JOB TO HAVE UM YOU KNOW OUR BUDGETS, 55 MILLION OR SO AND FOR US TO HAVE $2 MILLION LEFT OUT OF THAT, AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS PRETTY. PRETTY AWESOME IN MY OPINION. UM THIS THIS SLIDE HERE KIND OF SHOWS. UM THE TAX RATE OF WHERE WE WERE, UM IN IN 2015. UM AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UM. THE UH UM. YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU Y'ALL RECALL, UM THE VOTERS APPROVED THE BONDS FOR THIS. MUNICIPAL COMPLEX. UM. AND OUR TAX RATE NEVER WENT AS HIGH AS AS WHAT WAS APPROVED. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING ON THIS. UM. CHART HERE IS THAT, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL AND, UM MULTIFAMILY HAVE GROWN SINCE 2015 PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY. UH, BUT THEY STILL SHOULDER UH, LARGE BURDEN OF THE OF THE PROPERTY TAX. UM, COMMERCIAL REALLY HASN'T I MEAN IT'S GROWN? BUT YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DOUBLED OR A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S STILL NOT. UM IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT CARRYING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER THERE SO. MAYOR PRO TEM YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THAT AS WE AS WE LOOK FORWARD. EXCUSE ME FROM 24 FORWARD. WE'RE ALMOST TOPPED OUT RESIDENTIAL SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE GROWTH IN COMMERCIAL THAT'S GOING TO PICK UP AND CARRY THE GREEN AREAS AND THINGS THAT ARE LEFT OVER. SO WE HOPE WE HOPE SO. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD SEE SOME KIND OF PROJECTION THAT WOULD SHOW WHAT WE THINK THAT THE COMMERCIAL IS GONNA COME ON TO CARRY A PERCENTAGE? AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A DOLLAR PERCENTAGE, BUT JUST AN OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF THE WEIGHT. THAT COMMERCIAL IS OUT OF THE TOTAL 100? YES, SIR.

UM WE HAD REVENUE ORIGINALLY PUT IN THIS AND I ASK, UH, FINANCE TO TAKE IT OUT BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT US TO GET FOCUSED ON REVENUE. UM SO BUT, YES, WE CAN GET THAT. UM AND I DON'T AND I'M AGAIN. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT DON'T GET FOCUSED ON THE REVENUE BECAUSE REVENUE ESTIMATIONS ON REVENUE GOING THE FURTHER YOU OUT, THE FURTHER OUT YOU GO, THE HARDER IT IS TO ESTIMATE REVENUE, BUT I THINK YOU CAN ESTIMATE THE PERCENTAGE OF CARRY FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, SO THE PERCENTAGE OF CARRY IS NOT GOING TO GO DOWN FOR A RESIDENTIAL. BUT IT'S GOING TO GO UP FOR COMMERCIAL. YES SO THE 100% WILL SLIDE A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

THAT COUNCILLOR WILLIAMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, UH, MR BURGER IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 1 BILLION IN COMMERCIAL. VALUE. THAT AM I READING THAT? I DON'T KNOW. AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL, I'D HAVE TO ASK GRINER, BUT IT'S SO YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S SAYING THAT WE'VE GOT $1 BILLION IN COMMERCIAL VALUE PROPERTY THAT IS THAT IS GIVING SALES TAX DOLLARS BACK. LOOKS PRETTY CLOSE TO IT HITS.

IT HITS TWO OF THE TWO OF THE LINES HERE IT IS ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE SHOWS THAT JUST IN 2024. WE'RE JUST UNDER A BILLION, AND, UH, SO, MARSHALL WOULDN'T YOU SAY THAT? EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE A SOME BIG AREAS THAT COULD TURN INTO PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SIZE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD DRAMATICALLY INCREASE OUR

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UM. SO WE KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE REQUESTS AND AGAIN. THESE ARE YOU KNOW, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THE REQUEST THAT THE DIRECTORS, UH, FEEL THEY NEED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UM, I HAVEN'T YOU KNOW, I , I THESE AREN'T MY RECOMMENDATIONS. UM THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT I WOULD PUT FORWARD. BUT I, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR, UH, FOR Y'ALL TO SEE AND OBVIOUSLY, UM YOU KNOW, AND CHIEF HENDERSON'S CASE. UM ASKING FOR, UH, LOOKS LIKE 23. UH SEE A DETECTIVE TWO PATROL OFFICERS. UH, THAT'S THREE.

WELL, IF HE CAN'T FILL THE FIVE THAT HE HAS THIS YEAR. WELL, HE DOESN'T. HE DOESN'T NEED THE THREE NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS, IS REALLY UH UH. A MOVING TARGET, SO TO SPEAK. I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY A PLAN. IT'S A PROJECTION OF WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO BUILD OUT. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY SO. IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A BUILD OUT PLAN OF HOW THEY SEE THEIR DEPARTMENTS NEEDING TO BE ROUNDED OUT NOW AGAIN, NOT HOLDING THEM TO THAT THERE WON'T BE SOME TWEAKS. BUT IN GENERAL THIS IS KIND OF A BUILD OUT PLAN FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND YOU KNOW SOME OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH, UM AND I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF GO DOWN THIS RABBIT TRAIL RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT BUT

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YES, SIR. UM JUST KIND OF THROUGH SOME OF THESE. OBVIOUSLY CHIEF HENDERSON HAS AND HE'LL TALK MORE ON THESE, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH. IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A AN ISSUE. NOT ONLY

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THERE'S A NEED FOR NEW INSPECTOR INVESTIGATOR. UM. AND THEN AND TO YOUR POINT. I KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT AND GO THROUGH ALL THIS BEFORE WE MOVE TOO FAR, THOUGH, COUNCILMAN MAICI HAD A HAD A OPINION ON ME. UM. I JUST WANTED TO C TWO CLARIFICATION. ONE IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO DISHES AT A VERY BUSY PLACE. THAT'S 12. SROS AND CROSS GUARDS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD THAT ALL OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE.

THEY USE OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE KIDS GO TO OUR SCHOOLS, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. WE'RE A PARTNER. WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN THERE IS NO UM, TOUGH CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE ABOUT SRO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE. I. I SAID THIS TO YOU IN OUR ONE ON ONE, AND I'LL SAY PUBLICLY TOO. FOR ME. IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE MANNING THOSE SCHOOLS. TO COMMUNICATIONS. TACTICAL STANDPOINTS. ALL THE THINGS THAT CHIEF HENDERSON KNOWS BETTER THAN ME. BUT I'D FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN I SEE A WILEY POLICE. OFFICER IN OUR SCHOOL AND SCHOOL IN OUR SCHOOL SPECIFIC WHERE OUR KIDS GO. SO HAVING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, DOCTOR VINCENT, I THINK SO WELCOMING THING TO UNDERSTAND THE SR OS WHAT THEY EXPECT OUT OF US. THERE'S A LOT OF SCHOOLS THAT ARE BEING BUILT THAT YOU KNOW, IT WILL AFFECT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW MANY UH, FOLKS, THEY NEED TO FILL OUT THOSE POSITIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SCHOOLS ARE SAFE. YOU KNOW, NONE OF US WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING HAPPEN IN OUR SCHOOLS, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY COVERAGE WITHIN OUR SCHOOLS. AND SAME THING WITH CROSS GUARDS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE SEE THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY, BUT THEY'RE REALLY IMPORTANT. SPECIFICALLY IN IN THE MORNINGS WHEN KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL. SO THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP. OTHERWISE THE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GREAT, AND WE SHOULD HAVE OPEN CLEAR DISCUSSIONS. UM. THIS SLIDE HERE IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU'RE YOU WON'T HEAR FROM ANY OF THESE . WELL TOMMY ON THE EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, BUT, UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS NOW OR OR LATER, UM WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE, UM THROUGHOUT THIS NEXT FOUR MEETINGS, UM ON THE BUDGET. UM BUT THOSE ARE JUST GENERAL EMPLOYEE QUESTIONS. UM I MENTIONED TO YOU WE ARE. WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO BRING THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES IN HOUSE THAT'S GOING TO SAVE THE CITY ABOUT 50,000 ANNUALLY. UM WE THINK WE'LL GET A BETTER QUALITY OF SERVICE AS WELL AS UM A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT'S BEING DONE. UM. THESE ARE KIND OF ONE TIME EXPENSES FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, OR, UH, POLICE FIRE. STREETS. UM. OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T SPEND 4.5 MILLION A YEAR ON ON VEHICLES SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST WHAT THEY FEEL IS NEEDED AND WE'LL HAVE TO. PLUG THOSE IN THERE AS AS WE CAN, UM, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, WE NEED THANK YOU. UM SO I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE SPECIFIC SPECIFICS LATER, BUT JUST TO PLANT A SEED AS FAR AS IT IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE. AS FAR AS WHY POLICE IS COST WOULD ACTUALLY DECLINE INSTEAD OF INCLINE OVER FIVE YEARS. ESPECIALLY WITH THE THREE YEAR TURNOVER. UM. IT DEPENDS ON IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING REPLACED OVER THE YEAR. IT KINDA IF THAT'S REALLY IT, THEY JUST IT. IT WAS A FLAG TO ME OF. HEY MAYBE SOMETHING SOMETHING GOT PUSHED WRONG SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE I FIGURED IT'S GONNA GO UP INSTEAD OF DOWN. BUT NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL VERIFY THAT. UM. AND THEN BASED ON IF WE WERE GONNA DO THIS EVERY YEAR OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THIS IS JUST KIND OF THE OVERALL. UM PICTURE THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FUND THAT. UM, OBVIOUSLY, WE UM WE CAN'T RAISE THE TAX RATE HIGH ENOUGH, UM, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE DIDN'T PUT THE

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SO UM AND I MIGHT NOT BE GOOD AT ANYTHING, BUT, UM I'M GONNA LET HER TALK ABOUT THIS. SO IF THERE'S NOT ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF, THEN I'LL I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HER AND HOPEFULLY SHE I TOLD HER SHE NEEDED TO HOW TO EXPLAIN IT IN FIRE TERMS. YOU STICK FIGURES AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND IT AT LEAST. OK, WELL, I'LL GIVE THAT A TRY. UM. SO FIRST OF ALL, I, I DO WANT TO REITERATE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID EARLIER. UM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT REALLY APPRECIATES THE CONVERSATION. BACK AND FORTH. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE START DEVELOPING A BUDGET, I MEAN OUR BUDGET. IS BASED ALL ON ESTIMATES AND PROJECTIONS. AND SO THE HARDEST PART OF THAT IS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SOMEONE IS THINKING AND WHERE THEY WANT TO GO WHAT DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO IN, SO IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO US, AND WE APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. AND EVEN IF THE CONVERSATION IS HARD, WE DON'T MIND. UM, WE JUST WANNA KNOW. AND WE CAN, UM WE CAN PRODUCE ALL KINDS OF PLANTS AND NUMBERS BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. BUT CONVERSATION IS GREAT. SO IT'S SORT OF THAT BEING SAID IT SORT OF CHANGES WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT THIS SLIDE TONIGHT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WE WERE. THE POINT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE WITH THIS SLIDE WAS UM TO SHOW THE UNCAPTURE IMANO PROPERTY REVENUE. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE DECIDED COLLECTIVELY TO ADOPT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE AS WE MOVE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE SENATE BILL. TWO ALSO LIMITS. IT IT THEY BASICALLY LIMIT YOUR GROWTH. SO. WHATEVER OUR M AND O RATE IS WE CAN ONLY INCREASE AT THE NEXT YEAR BY 3.5. IT USED TO BE 8. NOW IT'S 3.5. SO THERE MAY BE SOME YEARS OR WE ARE CLOSING IN ON THIS. WHERE EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE US EVERYTHING THAT WE SAID WE NEEDED WE PROBABLY COULDN'T DO IT UNLESS WE WERE WILLING TO TAKE IT TO THE VOTERS. BECAUSE OF THAT 3.5% CAP. SO WE'RE UP AGAINST THAT RIGHT NOW. UM. AND THERE IS ONE THING THAT COULD HELP US AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT TALKED A LOT ABOUT, AND THAT'S THAT INCREMENTAL RATE. THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE VOTER APPROVAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE. AND THE WAY THAT YOU GENERATE THE INCREMENTAL RATE IS WHATEVER RATE YOU DECIDE TO ADOPT IN ANY GIVEN YEAR IF IT'S LESS THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THAT DIFFERENCE CAN BE QUOTE UNQUOTE BANKED. FOR THREE YEARS. ROLLING. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD BANK RIGHT NOW. UM LAST YEAR IT WAS AT OR THE 2024 WAS AT ABOUT FIVE CENTS, WHICH JUST MEANS THAT. FIVE ADDITIONAL CENTS COULD BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. SO IT COULD HELP. WITH THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE OF BUMPING UP AGAINST THAT 3.5% REVENUE INCREASE. PROBABLY GONNA GET TO

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NOW WE'RE ALL ADDING TO THAT, SPECIFICALLY KNOWING THAT EMS PROGRAM WILL GENERATE REVENUE.

AND SO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS. I JUST WANTED TO BECAUSE THAT'S WAS OUT THERE. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR PRO SO BASED ON THE S TWO 3.5% OF OUR M AND O RATE IS ABOUT 0.013. CORRECT SO IT'S 39 CENTS BASICALLY IS WHAT OUR M AND O IS, SO IT'S LIKE A PENNY. WE'RE CAPPED AT A PENNY ONE POINT OR 1.35 CENTS. IT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BUT BUT NOT IF YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT MUCH AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM THERE. AND SO TO, I THINK. TO WRAP THAT ALL UP. TO YOUR POINT. IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. MISTER MILICI THAT. IF WE JUMP IN RIGHT NOW AND SET THE BAR FOR SALARIES. THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME RUN OVER NEXT YEAR. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE HONOR? WE'RE GOING TO BE. AND I THINK TO MISS BROWN'S POINT.

IT'S TWO CENTS TODAY. BUT BUT WE'RE WE'RE SETTLING THIS WITH GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. SO RIGHT NOW, AS GENERAL FUND. TO KEEP THAT UP AND MAINTAIN THAT SAME AMOUNT NEXT YEAR WILL BE WILL BE A BUDGET DISCUSSION. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. OK COUNCILOR AND I THINK THAT'S TO BE DISCUSSED ONCE WE CAN PROJECT REVENUES COMING IN FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. IF WE GO BASED ON THIS, THESE ARE TOTALLY EXPENSES THAT WE UNDERSTAND. SO AND I'M NOT LIKE I SAID I WILL SUPPORT WHAT I'M WHAT I SUPPORTED MID YEAR. ALL I'M SAYING THAT I THINK WE'RE THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLAINING OF HOW THIS WORKS. I THINK WE'RE GO. WE'RE JUMPING ONE STEP AHEAD OF UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE POINT. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT ONCE WE KNOW THE NEXT FIVE YEAR, PROJECTIONS OF WHAT THE REVENUE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE GONNA WORK. THAT'S ALL. THAT YOU. I KNOW WE WERE KIND OF AT THE END OF IT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WOULD JUST SAY THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE BASICALLY AT 100% OF RECURRING COST, SO THAT PRETTY MUCH TELLS YOU WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE. NEXT YEAR. MHM. OK? WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THAT. AND FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THE UNUSED INCREMENT, I'M SURE IT'S HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND. SO.

PARKER. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE FROM Y'ALL? I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF. I THINK WE'VE KIND OF TRIED TO HAVE A DIALOGUE AS IT GOES. YES, SIR. THAT'S GREAT.

APPRECIATE IT. OK? THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN, WITH THAT, I WILL

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CHAPTER 38 EMERGENCY SERVICES ARTICLE THREE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES OF THE WILEY CODE OF ORDINANCES AND ADOPTING NEW EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE PROVIDING REPEALING SAVINGS AND SEVERABILITY CLAUSES AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE IN PUBLIC FOR THE PUBLICATION OF THE CAPTION HEREOF. THAT IS ON THERE. THANK YOU, MISS STORM. WITH THAT THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. BE OPEN TO A MOTION TO ADJOURN COUNCILMAN STRING A MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MAYOR PRO. I'LL SECOND THE MOTION MOTION WITH A SECOND TO ADJOURN COUNCIL, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. MOTION CARRIES 70 OR ADJOURNED.

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