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          HMM ADVISORY. BOARD MEETING FOR THE CITY OF WYLIE, TEXAS, WILEY MUNICIPAL CENTER. TIME, THE 601 
          [Animal Shelter Advisory Board on February 7, 2024.]
WITH. 66 VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AT THIS TIME WILL STAND FOR THE INVOCATION LIVE BUT JEFF YOU FOR THAT AND FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE LED BY AVALON. ABRAHAM. WE'RE GONNA PRAY FIRST, NICK. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. EVERYTHING, FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER THIS EVENING TO DO THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. FATHER WE ASK THAT YOU WATCH OVER SOME GUIDE US AND THAT OUR ACTIONS WILL BE PLEASING TO YOU. FATHER WE ARE SO THANKFUL, SO THANKFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU'VE STILL UPON US EVERY DAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY. FATHER WE ASK AGAIN THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER US. WATCH OVER OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO ARE PROTECTING US? THOSE WHO SERVED THE CITY OF WILEY. THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, MY SAVIOR. I PRAY THESE THINGS. AMEN. YOU GOT TO LEAD THE PLEDGE. PLEASURE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS CITIZENS PARTICIPATION, IF ANY CITIZEN OF WHY THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANY SUBJECT, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AT THIS TIME. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND BE AWARE THAT, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ISSUES NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. STILL WE CAN DIRECT OUR STAFF TO INSIST ANYONE HAVING QUESTIONS OR ISSUES REGARDING CITY BUSINESS. WE HAVE ANYBODY. THE RECORD TO SHOW NO ONE'S COME FORWARD DURING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. SO THE FIRST ITEM ON A REGULAR CHEST SESSION AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF OCTOBER. 11TH 2023 ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. BUT NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE? YOU, MR CHAIR OUT, WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A SECOND I WAS SECOND. OR MEMBERS. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MOTION PATH 6 TO 0. SINGING. MR WEATHERS ABSENT TODAY. ALRIGHT THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. AND GET MY PAGE TO TURN. CONSIDER AND PLACE ON FILE THE 2023 4TH QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION. FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. MR CHAIR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ON PAGE NUMBER OR ITEM NUMBER TWO PAGE NUMBER NINE IN OUR AGENDA IS THE TNR REPORT FOR OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. 2023 AND THERE'S A SUBSEQUENT REPORT FURTHER IN THE DOCUMENT FOR T AND R. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE SEE THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN OUT SEPARATELY FROM OUR SHELTER. UM. JUST A QUESTION OF STAFF WOULD BE. ARE WE SEEING A LEVEL OFF IN THE COLONIES BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH TNR? IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE SAME SIZE COLONIES OR SEE A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE. IN EACH COLONY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS REPORT, THIS IS JUST OUR FOURTH QUARTER. UM AND. 
          UM WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT ONE WILL SEE IT AS AN INCLUSIVE AND BE ABLE TO COMPARE THE TWO AND YOU WILL SEE AT THAT TIME AT OUR NUMBERS ARE RUNNING EQUAL. UM, FOR THE PROCESSING. SO THE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING AND EACH OF THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS HOWEVER, UM. THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OUR PROGRAMS FAIRLY NEW. WE'VE BEEN IN PLACE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T NOTICED A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE COST FOR SERVICE FOR CERTAIN AREAS AT 
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THIS TIME, SO WE'RE HOPING TO START SEEING SOME OF THE HIGHER DIVISIONS HAVE LESS OF AN INFLUX AS WE CONTINUE THE PROCESS. SO WOULD YOU SAY WE'RE RECEIVING POSITIVE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY CARETAKERS OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT COLONIES? I WOULD SAY WE'VE GOTTEN VERY GOOD FEEDBACK. WE HAVE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT ARE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING THAT ARE GETTING BETTER EDUCATED ABOUT HOW HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS THE BENEFITS, NOT SEEING IT AS SO MUCH AS WE'RE NOT REMOVING AUSTRALIA ANIMAL PROBLEM. THEY WERE ACTUALLY PUTTING A RESOURCE IN THAT AREA IS GOING TO WITH TIME WITH US GETTING THESE THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WILL CONTROL THAT ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE ELSE? WHAT WOULD NO FURTHER DISCUSSION I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MY MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FOURTH QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION. I SECOND. BOARD MEMBERS. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. 
          EVERYBODY VOTE. YEP. PLEASE LET THE RECORD SHOW THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE TO CONSIDER AND PLACE ON FILE THE 2023 STATISTICAL INFORMATION FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. MR CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS BACK TO THAT THE TNR THIS IS THE SECTION WHERE YOU DO SEE THAT MAP OF DISTRICTING. SO WHEN THE REASONS I DIDN'T PUT A MAP WITH THE ONE PRIORITY WOULD BE THE EXACT SAME MAP BECAUSE HE WAS THE END OF QUARTER. WE AS A BOARD HAD DISCUSSED THIS. UM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT UM, THE 30 THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR. THIS IS THE TNR MAPPING BY DISTRICT INCLUSIVE TO THE PROGRAM. SO UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HIGHLY IMPOSSIBLE. I'M NOT GONNA CALL TOMORROW THAT ONE OF THE TNR S FROM TWO YEARS AGO. 
          NOW THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, AND I GOT TO REMOVE IT. SO THE MAPPING PROCESSES THE TNR PROGRAM. UM AS WE KEEP KEEP A TAB ON THE COLONIES AS THEY ARE. SO WHEN I COMPLETED THE TNR REPORT FOR THE JANUARY THROUGH DECEMBER, I DID GO AHEAD. NO. BECAUSE WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND ADD THEM UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHETHER OFF ONE OR WHATEVER, BUT WE DID HAVE A TNR CARETAKER ASSISTANCE FOR A TEEN OR THE HEAD HAD TRAUMA, SO THAT NUMBER WAS REDUCED OUT OF THAT DISTRICT AREA, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK BECAUSE IF WE DID IT YEAR TO YEAR IT'S A IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT TO KEEP AN ACCURATE NUMBER OF A CALLING. I CAN'T JUST WIPE OUT THE COLONY NUMBER, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CARRY THIS THIS WAY. WE CAN KEEP THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD THAT I WAS TOLD WAS SO WE CAN KEEP THE NUMBERS OF HOW THESE COLONIES ARE GROWING OR ARE THEY DIMINISHING? SO I KIND OF WANT TO JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT THE NUMBER OF THE DISTRICT NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN THE OBVIOUS, 30 THAT THE MAP ISN'T JUST A YEARLY. IT IS A PROGRAM LIVE. SINCE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS PROCESS. SO LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION JUST SO I'M CLEAR ON THAT THE MAP IS THE POPULATION. AND THE AND OUR REPORT IS JUST THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN TN ARD, OR IF IT CHANGES ME , AND THEY HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM COLONY DUE TO ANY KIND OF MEDICAL REASON OR ANY KIND OF OTHER BEHAVIORAL POLICY, CORRECT. YES SO THE REPORT IS ACTUALLY THE SERVICES WE PROVIDED. RATHER THAT SERVICE IS HAVING TO PROVIDE HUMANE EUTHANASIA OR TREATMENT OR ANYTHING IN THAT. SO THE YEARLY REPORT INCLUDES WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THAT YEAR. TOWARDS THE PROGRAM. RIGHT SO THE MAP SPEAKING BACK TO THE MAP BY 
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DISTRICT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE POPULATION AS COUNTED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, EITHER ONE OR THE VARIOUS COLONIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. YES SIR. SO EACH DISTRICT IS WHERE WE WERE. THE ANIMALS THAT WERE 10 ARE REMOVED FROM AND RETURN TO FOR THEIR PROGRAM AND ENTIRETY. THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? WELL WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER IN PLACE ONE BY ALL THE 2023 STATISTICAL INFORMATION. I SECOND THAT MOTION. BOARD MEMBERS. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. AT THE RECORD SHOW. THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. OUR NEXT ITEM IS TO CONSIDER IN PLACE ON FILE THE 2023 TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICE INSPECTIONS OF RABIES QUARANTINE FACILITY COMPLETED NOVEMBER 16TH 2023. SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD MEMBERS AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBERS. SO THIS IS OUR STATE INSPECTION. SO UM, THIS IS A, UM. I WANT TO SAY UNSCHEDULED, BUT I WANTED TO SAY SURPRISED, BUT I'LL SAY UNSCHEDULED. SO UM THE STATE COMES AND BECAUSE WE ARE LESSONS RABIES QUARANTINE FACILITY REQUIRED TO BE INSPECTED BY THE STATE YEARLY MORE OFTEN, HOWEVER , HOWEVER, THEY WANT TO, BUT WE WILL HAVE THAT AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR, AND THAT IS WHAT THIS REPORT IS. SO THIS IS FOR 2023, AND THAT'S SO THAT WE HAVE OUR SHELTER CERTIFICATION THAT HANGS IN OUR LOBBY. AND I WILL SAY WE, UM, WE WERE WE HAD NO INFRACTIONS PAST ALL AREAS. UM AND THERE WASN'T ANY COMMENTS OF ANY TOP THAT, UM NEEDED TO BE FIXED, OR YOU KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES THEY WOULD PITCHING A PROBATION PERIOD. YOU HAVE SOMETHING SMALL OR SOMEONE THEY JUST SAY, HEY, YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT DOING THIS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE THE ATOM IS PRESENTED. THE SECOND PART. ALRIGHT BOARD MEMBERS, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE. THE RECORDS SHOW. THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. AND FOR FIFTH ITEM. WILL CONSIDER IN PLACE ON FILE THE VETERINARIAN RABIES QUARANTINE FACILITY INSPECTION COMPLETED ON DECEMBER 12TH 2023. WHAT UM, I WAS GONNA TOUCH BASE AGAIN REALLY QUICK ON THIS ONE. THE REASON THEY'RE DIFFERENT COLORS, TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICE THAT AS WELL. SO UM, THE STATE INSPECTION HAD ALREADY UH SENT GOT SENT UP TO OUR STATE, OUR REGION VETERINARIAN FOR APPROVAL. SO WE GOT BACK OUR ORIGINAL COPY. UM THIS ONE STILL HAS NOT MADE IT BACK THROUGH ALL THE HURDLES YET, UM, FOR THIS ONE. THIS ONE IS A MORE SCHEDULED SO YOU ARE REQUIRED AS LESSONS. RABIES QUARANTINE FACILITY. TO BE INSPECTED BY A VETERINARIAN AS WELL OF YOUR CHOICE, UM, TO COME AND GIVE YOU THEY ARE EVALUATING THE SAME THE SAME AREAS THE SAME 46 AREAS THAT THE STATE DOES TOO, AS WELL . IT'S JUST A SECOND SET OF OURS. I'D ENTERTAINED EMOTION. MY MOTION TO PASS THE RABIES 
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QUARANTINE FACILITY INSPECTION. SECOND. BOARD MEMBERS. PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTES. BUT THE RECORD SHOW THE MOTION PASSED 6 TO 0. WITH NO FURTHER ITEMS ON THE REGULAR SESSION WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSION. TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO THE CURRENT AND FUTURE FACILITY NEEDS. BOARD MEMBER SHEILA PATTON WILL BE GIVING THIS STATUS UPDATE. OKAY, SO. TURN THAT ON. SARAH UM, WHERE WE LEFT OFF WAS WE WERE, UH, STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THAT SHELTER ASSESSMENT STUDY. UM I KNOW THAT THE BOARD WAS ALSO INVITED AS WELL AS, UM ARE THEN LIAISON, LIEUTENANT COTTON GAVE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 12TH. AND THAT PROCESS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SHELTER. RENOVATIONS SO WE KNOW, UM THAT WE NEED SOMETHING. AND SO WE BROUGHT FORTH TO COUNSEL. I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO THEIR WATCH THAT OR OR, UM, SEE HOW THAT WENT WITH COUNCIL. SO UM, COUNCIL IS VERY RECEPTIVE. UM AND ASK UNNECESSARY QUESTIONS. 
          SO WE LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING A RENOVATION. OF OUR NOW NEEDS. SO WE UNDERSTAND, TOO. IT IS SOMETIMES IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED. WE'RE ASKING FOR A SHELTER ASSESSMENT STUDY. BASICALLY TELLING US YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE AT BILL, YOU KNOW, AND GROWTH OF THE CITY, RIGHT? SO WE KNOW WE ARE STRUGGLING IMMENSELY RIGHT NOW. UM. AND I DON'T WANT TO USE A WORD BAND AID, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IN THE BEST EFFORT OF SEEING HOW THIS ASSESSMENT STUDIES GOING TO COME OUT. TO KNOW IF OUR ASSESSMENTS GOING TO SHOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING. WHAT? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO. TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AFTER MEETING WITH COUNSEL UM, OUR SHELTER ASSESSMENT STUDY WAS COMPLETED, UM, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION ABOUT I KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. UM IT'S A TEAM AT SHELTER PLANNERS OF AMERICA. AND THEY COMPLETED ALL THE STATISTICAL BACK AND FORTH WITH US AS WELL AS OUR ON THE GROUND. THEY CAME HERE AND MET WITH US ON, UH FEBRUARY 1ST. SO WE COMPLETED ALL THE NUMBERS EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY COMPLETE. THEY WILL RETURN THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT IS VERY COMPLEX. IT'S ALL. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. IT WILL BE 6 TO 8 WEEKS. AND WE KNEW THAT GOING INTO THIS THAT IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T COME OUT AND EVALUATE US AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND EVERYTHING AND BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND OVERNIGHT. UM AND PREDICT WHAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO NEED. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED NOW? IS IT POSSIBLE TO, LIKE, BUILD OUT A SMALL AMOUNT TO GET WHAT WE NEED OR DO WE NEED A NEW SHELTER? THAT THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT. SO WE'RE KIND OF BALANCING TWO THINGS BECAUSE WE DID MEET AGAIN WITH THE CONTRACTING COMPANY AND THE STB. 
          UM, WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION SCOUT MEETING ON JANUARY 10TH. SO THAT WAS MYSELF CONTRACTORS WITH THEM AND, UM, ARE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY SYSTEM MANAGER, MR SAULI. UM I TALKED TO HIM EARLIER THIS WEEK. HE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING BACK TO ME FRIDAY OR MONDAY. WE UNDERSTAND DOING A RENAULT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE VERY COMPLEX YOU'RE BUILT. WE'RE DEALING WITH A METAL TOP BUILDING WITH STRUCTURAL AND YOU KNOW, METAL FRAMING AND THINGS ARE PRETTY MUCH SET. UM. I HOPE THE CHILD DID SAY THAT. SO BASICALLY, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BUILD OUT 
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SOME SMALL STAFFING AREAS RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT EXTRA RESTROOM TRYING TO GET ACCESS FOR OUR VISITORS FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK. UM, UH, ISOLATION AREA FOR SICK ANIMALS, UM, AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM IN OUR STATE QUARANTINE. SO THE NUMBERS BACK ON THAT AFTER HE COMES BACK FRIDAY OR MONDAY. AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE, UM BLUNT BLAMED AS I PROBABLY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THESE THINGS DO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I EXPECT TO TALK TO ME. HE SAID HE'D TAKE A WEEK AFTER HE MEETS BACK WITH US TO SAY. HEY WE'VE LOOKED AT WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT NOW HOW THE BUILDING SETS WHERE THESE THINGS WOULD COME OUT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THINGS LIKE THIS. AND THEN WE CAN GO TO PRESSING TO SEE WHAT WE COULD GET. FOR THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF MONIES. YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE CAN SPEND SO THESE TWO THINGS ARE WORKING. AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD FUNDAMENTAL ANSWER UNTIL I HAVE BOTH OF THOSE BACK. WE WANT TO PROVIDE A COMPARISON VALUE AND FOR ME, I KNOW, UM THE CONSENSUS WHEN AND WHEN COUNCIL. IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT BEING SUPPORTIVE, NOT UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE NOW KNEES OR FUTURE NEEDS. IT WAS IF WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SHELTER WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A LOT INTO RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? SO ALL THOSE THINGS REQUIRE A BOND LIKE IF IT CAME BACK AT THAT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO, UH. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY GOOD ANSWERS FOR YOU UNTIL I GET BOTH OF THESE THINGS BACK. I NEED NUMBERS AND I NEED INFORMATION AND THAT'S WHAT WE HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO DO. SO WE HIRED THIS ASSESSMENT STUDY. TO COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED. THIS IS Y'ALL'S YOUR FUTURE. HOW LONG WILL THIS CARRY YOU? AND I THINK IT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT WISE INVESTMENT. TO, UH. NOT JUST FOR US AS A FACILITY, BUT TO THE TAXPAYERS AND EVERYTHING TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL COME OUT AND SAY UM , THIS IS WHAT WE DO, AND THIS IS WHAT WE ENVISION IS GOING TO CARRY OUT TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. SO UM, IT JUST TAKES TIME. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT MOVING. I MEAN, WE GOT THE FUNDING APPROVED THIS BUDGET IN NOVEMBER. THINGS TAKE TIME. WE STARTED MOVING ON AS FAST AS WE COULD TO GET THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE. I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY DOING THIS WORK SO UM 6 TO 8 WEEKS. BUT DEFINITELY ACT LIKE IT WASN'T GONNA BE MORE NAMES. KIND OF LIKE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, SO I HAVE TO GET THOSE BACK. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO RETURN BACK TO COUNCIL AS WELL. TO LET THEM KNOW. UM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AT THAT POINT. SO I KIND OF WANTED TO KEEP YOU APPRISED OF THAT. I KNOW YOU'RE NEW. OKAY YOU KNOW, TWO NEW MEMBERS AND, UH, JUST KIND OF WORK WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING RESPONSIBLE AND. AND ALSO PROVIDING OUR CITY OF WHAT IT NEEDS. ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM AND JUST I DON'T HAVE A LOT. DON'T YOU MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED IT AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT WHAT IS THE 6 TO 8 WEEKS ABOUT? SO WE MET WITH THEM HERE ON FEBRUARY, 1ST. THAT VERY FIRST. 
          AND THE SCOPE MEETING THAT WE HAD WAS JANUARY 10TH. THAT DOES FOR THE, UM, THE REMODELING SIDE. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THE PRESENTATION THAT WENT TO COUNCIL THAT WAS A NOW NEEDS SCOPE OF WORK. ARE WE GOING TO SHARE THAT SCOPE OF WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT. TO BE SURE THAT I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD WAS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO BUILD A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT WE WERE GOING TO TEAR DOWN AND REDO. SO IF WE DO THE RE MOD THAT WAS THAT WAS PRESENTED. SH UP TO THE NOW NEEDS. A HOW LONG WILL THAT LAST? AND HOW LONG WILL IT KEEP US? UM. IN A SATISFACTORY CONDITION TO OPERATE AND THEN BE ABOVE THAT. 
          CAN THEY GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THOSE FACILITIES AND BUILD ONTO THEM? OR THEY HAVE WE ASKED FOR MULTIPLE OPTIONS SO THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S EITHER BUILD A NEW FACILITY OR SCRAP EVERYTHING. IT IS COMPLICATED, SO. WE DID. WE DID ASK FOR KIND OF HERE WE ARE. THE 
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OPTIONS FOR THEM ARE BASICALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A REMODEL. LET THEM KNOW UP FRONT SO THEY CAN KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. UM AND ANOTHER INSTANCE TO THAT IS. 
          HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED THAT WE ALREADY KNOW. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE NEED. SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UM THEY DID. LOOK AT THE AT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. UM, WE HAVE. WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW. 
          AS FAR AS EVEN THE RENAULT DOES NOT TOUCH THE DOG KENNELS. AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE THERE. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A RUN THERE OF 30 HANDLES. THAT ACTUALLY FUNCTION OF 15. AND I KNOW THE MOST BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN OUT. THEY'VE SEEN THE FACILITY. YOU YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND. WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT. SO, UM. I CAN. I CAN TELL YOU FROM WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH. THE ASSESSMENT IS REMAINING. CHRIS MARIN WAS IN THERE. VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW, GETTING THOSE STATISTICS AND EVERYTHING OUT TO THEY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING. UM WE KNOW WE NEED OVER 30 DOG KENNELS ALREADY. JUST FROM OUR NUMBERS, SO UM. AND WHERE WE'RE AT IT'S UH. EVEN TRYING TO PUT A BARK WALL DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THE LANE THAT'S IN THERE LIKE JUST TO TRY TO MINIMIZE SOME THAT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR DOGS TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER, RIGHT, SO IT'S JUST NOT. 
          IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR THEM TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER. UM AND IT'S NOT GOOD THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO WHILE WE CLEAN. WE DON'T WANT OVER SPRAYS. SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF KEEP ON ONE SIDE. WE'VE TALKED THAT AND I'M I KNOW THAT YOU ARE PRESENTLY HAVE TO REALLY KEEP OUR CHEMICALS AND STUFF WHERE WE'RE NOT GETTING THOSE INTO OTHER CAGES. SO TO DO, UM WE WOULD DO THIS RENO NOW, UM. I DON'T WANT TO SAY FOR A FACT I'M GONNA WAIT ON THIS STUDY TO COME BACK. BUT FROM JUST FROM HOW HOW WE TALKED AT THAT POINT. I HONESTLY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO THEM, SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT WE NEED. WE KNOW WE CAN'T GET THAT WHERE WITH THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN IMMENSE PARKING ISSUE. I MEAN THAT THAT'S A BIG CONCERN. EVEN FOR US. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH FOR OUR OWN CITY VEHICLES TO BE STACKED PROPERLY WHERE THEY'RE AT. UM WE HAVE USED EVERY BIT OF SPACE THERE AVAILABLE TO GIVE THEM LIKE RUN YARDS. AND UM, IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF WORK. SO OUR RENAULT. UM WHEN WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING AT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS RIGHT NOW? AND MAKE IT USABLE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE NOT BY OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT MAYBE BY ANOTHER EXPANDING DEPARTMENT. UM AND ONCE WE GET THE COST BACK, THAT'S WHY WE WANT. THAT'S WHY. 
          WHEN I SAID HE'S GOING TO BRING HIS COSTS BACK. THAT'S WHEN WE AS A CITY WILL HAVE EVERYTHING IN A WHOLE PACKAGE, AND WE CAN SIT HERE AND LOOK AND SAY DO WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE THIS? THESE ROOMS HERE AND SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY TO DO THIS? IF WE KNOW OUR MANGO AND WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IS ANOTHER OPTION, OR DO WE WANT TO PUT THE MONEY? WOULD THIS BE REUSABLE? HOW LONG WILL THIS CARRY US? BECAUSE WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS, WE'RE NOT INCREASING KENNEL SPACE. WE'RE NOT INCREASED THIS RENAULT WE'RE NOT INCREASING. WE ARE RE UTILIZING SPACES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. TO MAKE IT WORK. IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. RIGHT BATHROOM. I MEAN, JUST THINGS LIKE THAT NOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OFFICE, SPACE AND STUFF IN THERE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER BUILDING IS GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THAT RIGHT? SO THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT PROCESS SIDE. 
          DO WE REALLY WANT TO SPREAD THIS QUARANTINE OUT? OR DO WE DO? WE NEED TO MOVE FURTHER DO WE NEED TO? WE NEED A NEW SHELTER. I'LL JUST SAY IT. DO WE NEED IT? IS THAT WHAT THIS ASSESSMENTS GOING TO COME OUT TO BE? AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME AND I'M I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME BACK LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY I REALLY WANT TO GET THESE NUMBERS. GET THE BREAKDOWN OF THEM BE RESPONSIBLE ABOUT IT. AND WE KNOW, THOUGH A BOND TAKES A LOT OF TIME IF IT COMES TO THAT. WILL THIS CARRY US THROUGH FOUR YEARS? CAN CAN WE DO BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO NOTHING RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. BUT WHAT'S SOMETHING DO WE HAVE TO DO AND BE 
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RESPONSIBLE ABOUT IT? SO I'VE BEEN IN THE ABILITY. LIKE I SAID, 17 YEARS. LIKE IF WE IF WE HAVE TO GO ANOTHER THREE OR FOUR, AND WE CAN DO THESE THINGS. I THINK IT'S RESPONSIBLE OF US TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AND GET THEM ALL IN FRONT OF US AND SAY, UM THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR FUTURE. SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN ANSWER YOU. UM UH THAT NOT HERE TO MUDDY THE WATERS, BUT I SOON AS WE GET THE NUMBERS, IT'S COMPLETE, TRANSPARENT, REALLY? LAY IT OUT HERE AND SEE HOW IS WHAT IS THE BEST THING FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE RESPONSIBLE? HMM. UH YOU KIND OF JUST TOUCHED ON IT, BUT MY POINT WAS GOING TO BE THAT IF WE DO AND MY OPINION IS BEEN THAT I THINK WE ARE GOING TO END UP NEEDING A NEW SHELTER IS THAT YOU DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING NOW, YOU CAN DO FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS, FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES SO UM, WELL, AND I DON'T THINK THAT BUILDING IS JUST GOING TO GET TORN DOWN AFTERWARDS. I THINK IT WILL GET RE UTILIZED SO UM, I DON'T THINK ANY MONEY GETTING PUT INTO IT IS GOING TO BE WASTED. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE IT SO THAT'S WHERE I SEE IT. AS A CITIZEN AND AS BEING SOMEONE ON THIS BOARD, SO THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL AND I WE DIDN'T PUT ANYTHING INTO OUR PROJECTED RENO THAT. THERE IS A WAY LIKE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING ON IT. DO WE NEED TO DO YOU KNOW WE NEED OUR SHELTER TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS IN IT. AND, UM TO MAKE IT. BUT REALLY LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, DO WE? HOW DO WE WANT TO DO IT? THERE? MIGHT THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE THAT HEY, WE COULD, YOU KNOW SAVE 100,000 BY DOING THIS. I MEAN, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. AND WE CAN MAKE IT WORK. AND BE RESPONSIBLE AND GET EVERYTHING THAT WE DON'T WE'LL WAIT ON THESE NUMBERS TO COME BACK AND JUST LOOK AT IT. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR EVERYONE. STAFF. I MEAN, I MEAN, STAFF HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. MY STAFF HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF THOSE WHO THAT'S WHO IS TAKING CARE OF THESE ANIMALS. THEY THEY NEED SPACE TO WORK. THEY NEED SPACE TO DECOMPRESS AND. THEY NEED THE ABILITIES. YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A NEED FOR MANY YEARS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORTH AND YOU KNOW THE ISOLATION AREA. IS REUSING THE CURRENT QUARANTINE, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER QUARANTINE. SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF EVALUATE THAT. BUT OUR CURRENT QUARANTINE ROOM IS JUST IT'S IN LINE. IT'S IN LINE WITH GUIDELINES, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. SO WE NEED MORE. WE NEED MORE SPACE. SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS BUT WE HAVE SAT DOWN AND I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT I'VE CAME UP LIKE SIX DIFFERENT WAYS TO CUT OR TO DO THIS OR YOU KNOW, TO MAKE TO MAKE THIS WORK SO THAT THEY GET WHAT THEY NEED THE ANIMALS GET WHAT THEY NEED. AT THE BEST AMOUNT AT THE YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN SPEND LOOKING FORWARD BECAUSE LIKE YOU, AND LIKE I ALREADY SAID, I KNOW WE NEED A NEW SHELTER. ANYTHING TO ADD. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION WILL NOW RECONVENE INTO THE REGULAR SESSION. NO OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WE HAVE A SECOND I SECOND THAT MOTION. WE ALL GET A VOTE ON THAT. RIGHT BOARD MEMBERS. YOU CAN NOW VOTE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THE MOTION PASSED. 620. WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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