[Historic Review Commission]
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AT THIS TIME WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THE WALLY HISTORIC REVIEW COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR DECEMBER 28TH. 2023 IT IS. SIX O'CLOCK. HMM. FIRST ITEM IS COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR NON GENETIC? ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION? NO. ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO ON. TO THE THERE'S NO PRESENTATIONS ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ADAM A REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FROM OCTOBER. 26TH 2023 HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER. THE MINUTES. FROM THE LAST MEETING. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION. ON ADAM.
LET ME SEE BACK IN FIND IT HERE. YES ACTUAL MINUTES. IT IS IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH. UH THAT STARTS OUT BOARD DISCUSSED 6.3 DASH E FOUR. ABOUT MIDWAY DOWN IT SAYS CHAIR STONE STATED THAT SHE NEVER. SHE HAD NEVER SEEN A HISTORIC HOME WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE. I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THE BROAD CONTENT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT NIGHT WAS NEW BUILDS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'VE NEVER SEEN A NEW BUILD. HISTORICALLY ACCURATE HOME WITH AN ATTACHED GARAGE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD THE CONTENT OF MY STATEMENT. UM AND THEN ALSO EXCUSE ME THAT THAT THE NEXT SENTENCE COMMISSIONER BURKITT NOTED THAT HE HAD SEEN ATTACHED GARAGES ON HISTORIC HOMES AS HE LIVED IN A 1902 VICTORIAN WITHIN ATTACKS, GARAGE AND GALVESTON'S AND JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. I BELIEVE HE MOVED INTO THE HOME IS THAT CORRECT? AND IT ALREADY HAD THE ATTACKS GARAGE, BUT THEY HAVE THAT, BUT THE HOME WAS NOT ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH THE GARAGE. YEP. IT WAS ADDED TO AFTER THE HOUSES AND GALVESTON'S WERE PUT ON STILTS. THE HOUSE IS BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD. CORRECT? YEAH. THEY WERE ORIGINALLY THE HOUSES IN GALVESTON'S WERE ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED ON STILTS . YES, ADDED LATER BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD. NO. OKAY? SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO CLOVER. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, OR, UH, LIKE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVED THE MINUTES WITH AS WRITTEN, BUT WITH THAT CLARIFICATION. A SECOND. THE MOTION KEEP YOUR CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY? THE PAST 50. AND WE WILL GO ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. UM ONE TABLE FROM OCTOBER 26 2023. DO I HAVE TO SAY REMOVED FROM THE TABLE? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? UH, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING DEMOLITION OF A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER. 20 22-34 PROPERTY LOCATED AT 300 NORTH SECOND STREET WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. RENE. HAVE IT REMOVED ONE FROM THE TABLE FOR, UM. I NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE FROM THE TABLE. I APOLOGIZE. I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE TABLE. A SECOND ELECTION.
CAST YOUR VOTE. YOU'LL HAVE TO VOTE BY HAND BECAUSE I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THE AGENDA, SO PLEASE VOTE BY HAND. ALL RIGHT. SO MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. SO THIS ITEM, UM, WE GOT WITH, UM COMMISSIONER STOW AND SHE DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING DEFINITIVE OF WHEN THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. BUT IT DID APPEAR TO BE LIKE SOMETIME IN THE SIXTIES, AND I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS OWNERS. TELL ME PULLIAM JUST TO KIND OF GET HIS THOUGHTS WHEN HE PURCHASED THE HOUSE, AND HE DID SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HIS
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KNOWLEDGE AND CONSTRUCTION WHEN HE WAS DOING SOME REMODELING ON THE INTERIOR, HE COULD TELL THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME ADDITIONS TO THE HOME. UM AND TO HIS KNOWLEDGE AND ANYTHING THAT WE FOUND THERE'S NO HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE TO THE HOUSE OR ANYONE THAT LIVED THERE. SO, UM AND TALKING WITH MR GREINER WITH THE E D. C. WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS E. D C IS REPRESENTED HERE. UM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JASON, YOU WANT TO COME UP? GOOD EVENING, JASON KREINER, WHILE THE BDC. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WHAT WE KNOW ALREADY? UM NO. BUT I DO WANT TO JUST ADDRESS THAT. I THINK THAT THERE WAS JUST SOME CONCERNS. AND EVEN AFTER THIS WENT THROUGH HRC AND WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, THERE WAS SOME COMMENT OR QUESTION ABOUT. THE MURAL AND TEARING DOWN HISTORIC STRUCTURES WRITER BUILDINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC AREA. THERE WAS NO PROBLEM TALKING ABOUT 701, RIGHT. NO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE ON SECOND NORTH SECOND STREET. YEAH. SO SECOND STREET. I MEAN, JUST IN THE OVERALL CONCEPT OF THE COMMUNICATION, TEARING DOWN ANY OF THE HOUSES THIS THIS PROPERTY WAS ONLY ACQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE ADJACENCY TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND WORKING THROUGH THE PARAMETERS WITH THE CITY. SO LIKE WE'RE WE RECEIVE BENEFITS THROUGH THE CITY OF WILEY. WHILE WE RUN A SEPARATE CORPORATION.WE ARE SEPARATE COMPANY SPECIFICALLY SET UP TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY CREATED BY THE CITIZENS AND BY THE CITY OF WILEY. AND WE WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE LAND USE COM PLAN WORK WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN ALSO, AS I GOT HERE IN 2016 LOOKED AT DOWNTOWN HISTORIC ZONING AND OVERLY DISTRICT BETWEEN DTH AND SOUTH BEND OVERLAY AND WANTED TO TRY AND KICK OFF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, PART OF THE ZONING EVEN ADJACENT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. ON SECOND STREET, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THAT 11 ACRES. EITHER INFRINGING IN DOWNTOWN HISTORIC OR ACTUALLY, WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO. WORKING WITH YOU GUYS AND PNC AND COUNCIL WAS TO EXTEND DJ ZONING CAPABILITY THROUGH THAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR DISTRICT AND TAKE ATTRIBUTES OF DOWNTOWN HISTORIC AND ACTUALLY CARRY IT THROUGH TO THAT 11 ACRES NEXT DOOR, ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT 701 OR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THERE. THE SWAYZE PROPERTY TWO DOORS DOWN THIS PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER NORTHEAST CORNER OF JEFFERSON AND SECOND AND EVEN MISS CRAMER'S PROPERTY FOR THE NORTH. THE IDEA OF BEING THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN DTH. IT'S GONNA STAY DTH. ANYTHING THAT WOULD EVER BE BUILT THERE WOULD COME BACK AT EVEN HIGHER AND BETTER USE THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE CITY. AND THEN THE HEARINGS WITH THE ZONING OVERLAY. UM REALLY? THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD TO. THIS IS WE DON'T GO IN. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ESPECIALLY TEAR DOWN ANY HISTORIC HOMES OR ANY SPECIFICALLY PROTECTED HOUSES IN THE AREA. AND THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE I GOT TO THIS POINT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS ADJACENT TO A NURSING HOME THAT WAS DESTROYED IN 2016. WE BOUGHT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR MARIE ACQUIRED THE REST OF IT FROM A RAILROAD AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO SUBSEQUENTLY ASSEMBLE THE REST OF THOSE PROPERTIES. WE'VE GOT TO SECOND STREET AND STOPPED. IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO TURNED DOWN ANY HISTORIC HOMES DOWNTOWN. SO AND SOME OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS AND EVEN THE ANALYSIS GOING BACK LOOKING AT THIS. UM IT WAS JUST AN ASSEMBLAGE. WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF GOING IN, TURN DOWN THE HISTORIC HOMES, BUT WE WILL BUILD BACK SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE CAN BE PROUD OF. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT ONE OTHER CONCERN. I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. UM COMMERCIAL NEXT DOOR. SO WHAT ARE THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET GOING TO FACE? WE AREN'T TRYING TO READDRESS SECOND STREET TO WHERE IT'S THE BACK OF A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE THAT FACES HIGHWAY 78. SO THEY SEE THE BACK OF THESE BUSINESSES. IDEA WAS ALWAYS TO TRY AND BUILD SOMETHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF SECOND STREET. IT WOULD FACE THE NEIGHBORS ON THE WEST SIDE OF SECOND STREET, SO THEY'D HAVE FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES OR FRONT OF THOSE HOUSES FACING EACH OTHER. THE BACK OF THOSE BUSINESSES OR BACK OF THOSE HOUSES HAVE BEEN WITH THEM BE FACING THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST OF THAT, AND THE 11 ACRES THAT WE RESOLVED, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE SENSITIVE TO THE IDEA THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET. THEY'RE LOOKING AT DUMPSTERS AND TRASH CANS AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TRASH BEHIND THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. THAT WON'T BE THE CASE. HMM SO WHAT? WHILE THIS ADAM TONIGHT IS ABOUT DEMOLISHING THE HOUSE. WHAT WE WHAT WE WILL SEE BUILT BACK, WE THINK IS AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STATE WILL BE LOOKING AT IS THE FRONT OF OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, OR COULD IT BE LIKE RESIDENT BACK RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES WITH BUILDING WITH WITH BUSINESSES IN
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THEM. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT BETTER THAN I CAN. BUT EVEN WHAT WE DID WITH 41 SOUTH BROWARD AND TEARING DOWN THAT HOUSE WHAT WOULD BE BUILT THEIR RESIDENTIAL AND LOOK AND FEEL THAT COULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS. WE WANTED TO BE COMMERCIAL. DRIVE THE TAXABLE VALUE FROM PROPERTY TAX, BUT ALSO BECAUSE GENERATE SALES TAX FOR PROVIDE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SUITES. THEN WE PROVIDE DAYTIME POPULATION FOR OUR DOWNTOWN SHOP OWNERS. YEAH. I MEAN, I KNEW IT WOULD BE BUSINESSES RIGHT WHATEVER IS REBUILT, BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY IT COULD BE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT'S POSSIBLE AND WHATEVER IS BUILT THERE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS BOARD BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT SO IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL BY YOU ALL. AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT US WERE SLOW TO BRING IT BACK TO MARKET RIGHT, SO IT HAS TO GO THROUGH OUR BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL AND THEN FOR THIS ONE BACK THROUGH YOU GUYS, TOO, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND COMFORTABLE WITH IT. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? BUT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE HAS WRITTEN THANK YOU. ONE SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE. ADAM PASSES 50.THERE IS NO EXECUTIVES, NO WORK SESSION, NO EXECUTIVE SESSION. HELLO. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. A SECOND. THAT MOTION CAST YOUR VOTE.
DOWN TO YOUR HOUSE. HMM.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.