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          GOOD. IT IS SEVEN O'CLOCK ON NOVEMBER 27TH 2023, WE HAVE ASSEMBLED A QUORUM HERE, UH, 
          [Library Advisory Board on November 27, 2023.]
ABSENT TASHA KIMBALL AND BRIAN ORTIZ. UH, LIKE TO GET HIS ROLE IN HERE. THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. AH! LET'S GET OUR STAFF SPOTLIGHT. LAURA CONDUCT WELCOME, LAURA. WILL YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC, PLEASE? THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON TOGGLE BUTTON. THERE YOU DO. YOU GOT I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UM I STARTED AT THE LIBRARY IN JANUARY. 20. 2007 ROW SEVEN. OPHELIA DID SO I'M COMING UP ON 17 YEARS. THREE MORE YEARS . YAHOO PLAN ON RETIRING AT 60. 
          UM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE DO. MY FAVORITE DESCRIPTION OF MY JOB IS WE SOLVE PROBLEMS. YOU DON'T KNOW YOU HAVE IN WAYS YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND. BASICALLY WE PUT EVERYTHING INTO THE COMPUTER SO PEOPLE CAN FIND IT. IF IT'S NOT IN THERE CORRECTLY, THEN YOU CAN'T FIND IT. IF THE SUBJECT HEADING IS WRONG, A SERIES NAME IS WRONG OR SOMETHING AND THERE IS WRONG AND YOU TYPE IT IN AND IT DOESN'T COME UP. THAT'S MY FAULT. THAT'S MY PROBLEM. SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OBVIOUSLY PUTTING THINGS IN. BUT A LOT OF TIME FIXING THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY IN AND THERE'S SO MUCH IN THERE RIGHT NOW, AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE 124,501 ITEMS IN OUR COLLECTION. NOW THAT'S 91,193 DISTINCT TITLES SO. WE MIGHT HAVE 10 COPIES OF THIS. WE HAVE A LOT OF LOT OF THE CHILDREN'S THINGS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE COPIES BECAUSE THEY JUST GO OUT ALL THE TIME, AND WE CAN'T KEEP HIM IN THE DOG MAN BOOKS. THERE'S MANY THAT WE HAVE. MANY MANY COPIES. 
          MOST THINGS WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY, BUT THAT'S JUST PHYSICAL ITEMS. PHYSICAL YES, WE HAVE 12,000 ITEMS WITHOUT TITLES, WHICH MEANS GENERALLY ELECTRONIC RESOURCES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ELECTRONIC RESOURCES. NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE CATALOG. I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THAT. BUT WE GET DOWNLOADS EVERY MONTH OF NEW IVE BOOKS AND E RESOURCES THAT I HAVE TO ADD, AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND HONESTLY, PHYSICAL ITEMS TAKE PRESIDENT SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET ALL THOSE IN AND THEN WE WORRY ABOUT THE E BOOKS WHEN WE GET TO THEM, SO IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME. 
          I PULLED SOME STEPS JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WE EVER ABOUT 26,300 ITEMS PER YEAR THAT WE ADD TO THE COLLECTION AND ABOUT 16,850 ITEMS THAT WE DELETE FROM THE COLLECTION. SO THERE'S CONSTANTLY THINGS SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, I'M GETTING RID OF THIS ONE. I'M ADDING THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS OVER AND ONE AS YOU CAN SEE, SOME THINGS DO NOT SURVIVE. THIS ONE. ACTUALLY, THE DISC WAS FINE. THAT I ASSUME IT'S A SMALL DOG WITH A LOT OF TIME ON HIS HANDS BECAUSE A LITTLE BITTY TEETH MARKS BUT THE DISK WAS OKAY, SO I HAD TO JUST REPLACE THE CASE. THERE ARE THINGS FOR INSTANCE, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE CATALOG SINCE 2015. IT'S CHECKED OUT OVER 100 TIMES AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRETTY WORN. WE'RE HAVING TO REPAIR THINGS. SO WE REPLACED THEM. YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VERY, VERY POPULAR. UM THESE THESE THINGS HERE, THE OLDEST THINGS IN OUR COLLECTION, THEY WERE ADDED. PRIOR TO OCTOBER. 2004 THAT'S THE OLDEST STATE WE HAVE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE SWITCHED OVER TO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM THAT KEEPS TRACK OF ALL THE BOOKS. THIS ONE. IT WAS ADDED IN OCTOBER 2004 305 CIRCULATIONS. THIS IS THE THING THAT CIRCULATED THE MOST IN OUR COLLECTION THAT WE STILL HAVE. AND ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE CHECKED OUT AS RECENTLY AS SEPTEMBER. SO ALL OF THIS IS STILL USE ARE OVER 200. CIRCULATIONS ON THESE AND THEY'RE STILL CHECKING OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY. SO IT'S AMAZING HOW MUCH THESE DON'T HAVE AS MANY CIRCULATIONS BECAUSE THEY FALL APART. YOU'LL SEE THIS ONE HERE. IT'S JUST TORN UP, AND WE HAVE REPAIRED IT AS MANY TIMES AS WE COULD, BUT LUCKILY WE OFTEN GET DONATIONS HAVE ANYONE IN SO IT'S NOT A BIG PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN ONES THAT WE JUST CAN'T FIX. IT'S JUST BAD. WE JUST AFTER BUYING A NEW ONE. UNFORTUNATELY, SO. I CAN'T THINK WHAT ELSE WE I MEAN, WE DO A LOT OF REPAIRS. WE DO. IF WE'RE ADDING SOMETHING, FOR INSTANCE, THIS ONE HERE WAS A DONATION AND IT COMES IN. YOU SEE, THIS ONE HAS THE PLASTIC COVER ON IT. SO WHAT? MOST OF OUR THINGS COME IN LIKE THIS THE PLASTIC COVER THE BARCODE, THE R F I D TAG INSIDE. THEY COME READY TO GO. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ATTACH THIS NUMBER. DO THIS ITEM, SO WE KNOW. OKAY WE HAVE THIS BOOK, AND YOU COULD PUT A HOLD ON THIS AS SOON AS I PUT IT IN SO IN THIS CASE, SOMEBODY HAS DONATED THIS COPY, SO IT DOESN'T COME WITH ANY OF THAT. SO WE ADD THE STICKER WE ADD, OR IF I D TAG, WE ADD THE MYLAR COVER. WE ADD THE SPINE LABEL, AND THEN IT GOES OUT WHICH ALL OF THAT TAKES 
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A LITTLE BIT LONGER. IF IT COMES IN LIKE THIS, I CAN HAVE IT OUT ON THE SHELF. 30 SECONDS. IT TAKES BOOM, BOOM BOOM! IT'S IN THE CATALOG AND WE RUN IT UP THERE. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BACKLOG. WE GENERALLY THERE'S ONLY TWO OF US THAT DO THIS. AND THAT'S ALL THAT WE DO IS WE JUST HAD AND DELETE AND FIX THINGS AND CATALOG AND WE GENERALLY DON'T WORK OUT FRONT AND ON MY OTHER COWORKERS. SHE HAS BEEN HELPING OUT IN CIRCULATION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SHORTHANDED, BUT THEY'RE NOW FULLY STAFFED AS UP TO THAT. SOCIAL COMEBACK, STARTED OUT IN CIRCULATION AND STOLE HER FROM MY DEPARTMENT IS VERY, VERY GOOD. SO WE GET LOTS OF BOXES TODAY WE GOT LIKE 40 BUCKS IS, I THINK SO IT'S JUST ABS AND FLOWS AT THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL. EVERYBODY ORDERS THINGS THAT YOU GET A BUNCH OF BOXES IN AND THAT'LL SLOW DOWN FOR A WHILE, AND WE'LL HAVE TIME TO CATCH UP TO EVERYTHING AND THEN GET ANOTHER BIG BUCKS COLLECTION OF BOXES, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING THROUGH THEM. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO THAT. SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M IRENE. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. 
          BUT I IT IS QUITE EYE OPENING. I YOU KNOW WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. I'D NEVER HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT WHO DOES THAT, AND THAT IS SUCH A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK. JUST WITH THE NUMBERS THAT YOU GAVE. 
          YEAH SO THANK YOU. I AM. THAT IS THAT'S HUGE. IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS . YOU OPENING UP, YOU KNOW, BRAND NEW, BUT THEN EQUIPMENT WE HIT SEE THE THINGS AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE, AND WE HAVE TO LIKE YOU. GET RID OF THAT. THROW IT AWAY BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING COMING. JUST NASTY ARE THERE'S MYSTERIOUS SUBSTANCES ON THEM LIKE PLASTIC. WE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THE TOUCH THIS. YEAH THERE'S SOME WEIRD THINGS THAT COME THROUGH. I DID LOOK BACK WHEN WE OPENED THIS BUILDING THAT YEAR, WE ADDED 57,000 ITEMS. BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THE OPENING DAY COLLECTION OF STUFF THAT WE ADDED MASSIVE, SO THAT'S WAY MORE NORMALLY, IT'S 20,000 ABOUT AT THAT TIME WE WERE WRITING ABOUT 19 20,000. SO THAT YEAR WE DID NOTHING BUT JUST WE WERE HERE. YEAH. AND THEN IN 2020, WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY BECAUSE FORCE EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN, AND THEY WEREN'T SHIPPING ANYTHING. AND WOULD YOU WEREN'T GETTING ANYTHING SO THAT FIRST WEEK WEEK AND A HALF WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY CLOSED CLEAN. WE DID INVENTORY. WE MOVED FURNITURE WITH ALL KINDS OF BACK BEHIND THE SCENES STUFF WE GOT TO DO, WHICH WAS NICE. WE HAVEN'T DONE INVENTORY. YEAH. 
          SORRY. YEAH. BUT THINGS ARE ALWAYS BEING DELETED AND ADDED THEM. WE TRY TO KEEP UP. WHEN YOU HAVE OVER 100,000 ITEMS. THINGS GO MISSING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND LIKE LAURA'S TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHEN SHE PUTS THINGS IN THE COMPUTERS, WE CAN FIND THEM. IT'S NOT LIKE TITLE. 
          YOU ENTER THE TITLE. IT'S A WHOLE PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE. IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, AND IT'S ONE OF THE COURSES YOU'RE REQUIRED TO TAKE IN. AND WHEN YOU GET YOUR MASTER'S, AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A KNACK FOR IT, IT WAS MY LEAST FAVORITE COURTS. I HATED IT. UM YOU KNOW, YOU EITHER GOT IT OR YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT I WAS LIKE, WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THIS? IT'S TERRIBLE. SO SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO DO STORYTIME THAT STUFF. THEY OH, NO. NO PEOPLE. AS MUCH I CAN WORK THE REFERENCE DESK I HAVE DONE. WHEN WE HAVE WRITTEN THE OLD LIBRARY. THERE WAS ONLY A FEW OF US HELPED OUT ON THE REFERENCE DESK. BUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN OVER HERE, I HAVEN'T NEEDED TO DO THAT. BUT WE'RE CATALOGERS TEND TO BE INTROVERTS WERE CAVE PEOPLE. WE SIT BACK AND CARTS AROUND US AND NOBODY SEES US. I'LL GO OUT ON THE FLOOR AND PEOPLE THERE DIDN'T PATRONS BEFORE. WHO SAID YOU WORKED AT THE LIBRARY? YEAH, YOU JUST NEVER SEEN I GENERALLY TRY NOT TO GO OUT THERE WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE I JUST GO OUT BECAUSE I WORK 8 TO 5. WE DON'T OPEN TILL 10. SO IF I NEED STUFF, I GO AND PULL THE THINGS AND THEN GETTING ANYBODY'S WAY AS I'M PULLING THINGS OFF THE SHELVES. PIPE. LOVE MY JOB. I LIVE IN LITTLE ELM. SO I'M I DRIVE. 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR EACH WAY EVERY DAY. BECAUSE I LOVE MY JOB. THAT'S WHAT'S IT. HE SAID. I STARTED HERE IN 2007 JANUARY 2007. AND UH, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS BEEN JUST FOR MY OWN KIND OF CURIOSITY. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST SORT OF GROWTH OR CHANGE FROM 2007 2 NOW AND SORT OF WHAT WOULD YOU SEE IT IN THE NEXT COLLEGE? FIVE YEARS? 10 YEARS? THAT'S A ROUGH ONE ON THE SPOT. SORRY. I MEAN, E BOOKS. OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE. 
          THEY STARTED AT ALL. WE GOT RID OF DIOS LIKE WE HAD ACTUAL VHS VIDEOS. WHEN I STARTED, WE GOT RID OF ALL OF THOSE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY THE CHANGE IN TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE STARTED THE SAME YEAR SO WE HAD VHS. WE HAD BOOKS ON CITIES, WHICH WE STILL HAVE, WHICH WON'T LAST MUCH LONGER. WE HAD BOOKS ON CASSETTE. YES WE DID THAT. NOBODY WANTS. YOU KNOW, IT JUST CHANGED SO FAST, AND YOU KNOW YOU WENT INTO DVDS AND CDS, AND THEN YOU WENT WITH THE PANDEMIC ACCELERATED ALL THAT NOW THOSE AREN'T CIRCULATING ANYMORE. CARS DON'T COME WITH CD PLAYERS ANYMORE. SO EVERYTHING'S ON STREAMING. NOW WE'RE ONTO DIGITAL. IT JUST SEEMS TO BE JUST CHANGING, CHANGING, CHANGING, CHANGING SO QUICKLY REMOVING AWAY FROM THE CDS TO PLAY AWAYS NOW, METRICAL LITTLE UNITS THAT YOU JUST PLUG IN YOUR HEADPHONES OR YOU CAN YOU HAVE 
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AN ADAPTER. YOU CAN PLUG IT INTO YOUR CAR SO MUCH EASIER THAN HAVING TO CARRY ABOUT BIG THING WITH 10 DISCS AND CHANGE IT OUT. YOU JUST LISTEN SO MUCH SIMPLER. AND E BOOKS. OF COURSE I'M A BIG BOOK PERSON. I DON'T READ A LOT OF PRINT THINGS. CANDLES ARE A LOT LIGHTER. I HAVE TO WRITE SOMETHING. AND I LISTENED TO A LOT OF AUDIO BECAUSE AGAIN I'VE GOT TWO HOURS IN THE CAR. OK, SO AUDIOBOOK, SIR. MY FRIENDS. I LOVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYBODY ELSE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, LAURA. THANKS FOR SHOW AND TELL THAT WAS FUN. SHOULD I THANK YOU. SEEING AS THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S JUST MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA REVIEW AND APPROVE THE OCTOBER 23 MEETING MINUTES. 
          I'D LIKE TO THIS IS ROBERTA. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE MINUTES. THIS IS IRENE I SECOND THAT. YES, IT DID. SHE'S JUST LOOKING FOR THE VOTE BUTTON. THERE SHOULD BE AT THE TOP. BUT NOT. 
          IT'S GONNA SHOW THAT. TASHA ABSTAIN, BUT THAT'S MY FAULT. IT'S GOING TO SHOW TASHA ABSTAIN , BUT THAT'S MY FAULT. SHE'S NOT HERE I ACCIDENTALLY HIT. I WAS TRYING TO CLEAR THE SCREEN AND I HIT THE ONE AND SO ONCE WE GET 12345 IN, YOU CAN. WOULD THAT NOT BE BRIAN? OKAY? WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING IS JUST THAT THEY ACT THAT THE HAD ACTUALLY HAPPENED AND THAT THIS WAS YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE AT THE MEETING TO HAD TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT WANTS TO BUT YES, GREAT. RIGHT? HMM. SO THE MOTION PASSES FOUR. THE MOTION PASSES FORWARD. YEAH WITH TWO MEMBERS ABSENCE. OKAY, ALRIGHT. EXCELLENT NOW TO OUR REGULAR WORK SESSION REVIEW AND APPROVE THE REVISED BORROWER POLICY. ALRIGHT SO THIS MIGHT LOOK FAMILIAR BECAUSE WE DID THIS BACK IN APRIL. HOWEVER WE RAN INTO SOME THINGS THAT WE REALIZED WEREN'T IN THERE AND WE 
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WANTED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO MAKE THINGS MORE GENERAL, BASICALLY BECAUSE WE WENT TO COUNCIL TWO WEEKS AGO. YES TWO WEEKS AGO TOMORROW TO ASK FOR A REDUCTION IN DVD FINDS THE DVD FEE USED TO BE 50 CENTS A DAY PER DAY. PER ITEM. AND, UM LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE. TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED. DVDS ARE NOT THAT BIG OF A DEMAND. THEY'RE NOT REALLY CIRCULATING AND SO WE WANTED TO. WE HAD ALSO WE HAVE LIMITATIONS ON HOW MANY DVDS YOU CAN CHECK OUT, SO WE WANTED TO LIFT THAT, UM, LIMITATION TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CHECK MORE OF THOSE OUT, BUT IN DOING SO, WE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GET HIT WITH HUGE FINES IF THEY DID ACCIDENTALLY GO OVER THE DATE. 
          SO WE THOUGHT, WHY ARE WE CHART? WE WERE CHARGING THAT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE THEY WERE KIND OF A PRECIOUS RESOURCE. UM, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO BE SURE TO BRING THEM BACK ON TIME BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE HAD PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO BROWSE THE DVDS. NOT NECESSARILY PUT THEM ON HOLD ANYWAY, SO WE I THOUGHT, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM TENCENT TODAY. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, SO THEN WE WERE LIKE, WELL, IF WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TO CHANGE. FIRST. WE HAVE TO GET THE COUNCIL APPROVAL. 
          THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT IN THE BORROWER POLICY. WE STARTED REALIZING THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER CHANGES DOWN THE ROAD WE'D LIKE TO MAKE AS FAR AS CHECKOUT TIMES, POSSIBLY WITH FINES. SO WE THOUGHT, WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE IT VERY GENERAL TO SAY YOU CAN SEE THE FINES. FOR EXAMPLE ON, UM IT'S ON PAGE NINE OF YOUR PACKET, SO EXTENDED USE FEE USED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE ITEM LISTED OUT AND WHAT THE FINE WAS. AND SO WE THOUGHT, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BRING THIS BACK EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, WE'LL JUST MAKE IT GENERAL AND SAY THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE FINES. IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE. UM AND THAT'S IT'S KIND OF UP TO LIBRARY ADMINISTRATION TO DECIDE WHAT IT IS, UM AND THAT WAY, BECAUSE ANY TIME WE CHANGE FIND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL. ANYWAY, WE CAN'T JUST MAKE IT UP. IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THEM. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO NUTS WITH POWER. 
          ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM SO WE DECIDED TO MAKE THAT MORE GENERAL THAT GOT US THINKING ABOUT CHECK OUT LIMITS. SO IF YOU GO TO THE TOP OF PAGE EIGHT, WE MADE ALL OF THAT MORE. 
          GENERAL UM, WE USED TO GET AGAIN HAVE COLLECTIONS LISTED OUT AND HOW LONG THEY CHECKED OUT. SO LIKE THIS COLLECTION CHECKS OUT THREE WEEKS THIS COLLECTION, BUT EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY MUCH THREE WEEKS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIKE, TWO THINGS, AND SO WE KIND OF MADE IT MORE GENERAL. AND SAID, BASICALLY, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THAT AT ANY POINT, JUST DEPENDING ON THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE COLLECTION OR WHAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, DO TO MAKE THAT EITHER A MORE ATTRACTIVE COLLECTION OR A LESS ATTRACTIVE COLLECTION. WHATEVER. THE CASE MAY BE THE OTHER THING, WE ADDED, IS IF YOU GO TO THIS FIRST PAGE TO PAGE SEVEN, I KIND OF DID THIS BACKWARDS. I'M SORRY, IS THE MIDDLE SECTION WHERE IT SAYS TEMPORARY LIBRARY NUMBERS SO WE DO DURING COVID. 
          WE INTRODUCED THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE STUCK AT THEIR HOUSES AND THEY COULDN'T COME UP AND GET A LIBRARY CARD BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSED. HOWEVER WE DIDN'T WANT THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS ALL THE THINGS YOU KNOW FROM HOME. THE INCLUDING E BOOKS, AUDIOBOOKS DATABASES ALL THOSE THINGS, SO WE CREATED A TEMPORARY LIBRARY NUMBER SYSTEM WHERE THEY COULD GO ONLINE. FILL OUT THE FORM, GET A TEMPORARY LIBRARY NUMBER THAT THEY COULD USE FROM HOME SO THEY COULD TRY ALL THE STUFF ACCESS ALL THE DATABASES ALL THE DIGITAL RESOURCES, AND THEN ONCE WE OPENED BACK UP, THEY COULD COME IN AND GET THEIR PHYSICAL CARD IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. WE MADE IT TO WHERE THE TEMPORARY LIBRARY NUMBER ONLY SIX MONTHS. THAT'S ALL IT'S FOR, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TEST CARD RIGHT? OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED RIGHT AWAY AT HOME. IT DOES USUALLY TAKE CAN TAKE 24 TO 48 HOUR TURNAROUND TIME, DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU APPLY, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S A LOT QUICKER THAN HAVING TO WAIT FOR THE LIBRARY OPEN OR IF YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION ISSUE OR WHATEVER YOU COULD STILL ACCESS THOSE RESOURCES. AND THEN EVENTUALLY, WHEN YOU CAN GET TO THE LIBRARY, YOU CAN SWITCH IT OUT TO HER. PERMANENT CARD. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS SO POPULAR. WE DECIDED TO KEEP IT GOING. AND, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, THOUGH PEOPLE STARTED THINKING THEY COULD ACTUALLY USE THAT NUMBER TO BOOK STUDY ROOMS TO BOOK MEETING ROOMS. AND WE WERE LIKE, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. THIS IS JUST FOR DIGITAL RESOURCES, SO WE DECIDED TO KIND OF PUT IT IN THE POLICY TO GIVE US MORE TEETH WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT WHY, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, FOR THAT IT'S JUST TO USE DIGITAL RESOURCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO ADD THAT IN THERE DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR ANY PROBLEMS WITH THOSE CHANGES? I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH CHANGES SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE TOP OF PAGE EIGHT. MOST PHYSICAL ITEMS CHECK OUT FOR THREE WEEKS. SELECT VISIBLE COLLECTIONS. CHECK OUT FOR SEVEN DAYS. AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT WHICH ONES GET CHECKED OUT FOR THREE DVDS. JUVENILE HOLIDAY BOOKS. JUVENILE HOLIDAY DVDS ARE ALL SEVEN DAY CHECK OUT, AND THEY HAVE BIG SEVEN DAY STICKERS. GOT IT. BUSINESS, ROBERTA. UM I DON'T AGAIN. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE OUTLINED, BUT MY QUESTION RELATES TO ACTUALLY THE FIRST SECTION UNDER ELIGIBILITY FOR A LIBRARY CARD. YES, MA'AM. HAS THE STEP HAD ANY 
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DISCUSSIONS ABOUT UM. ADDING GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATORS TO THOSE. THIS IS EXTREMELY BROAD AND SOMEWHAT VAGUE. UM WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GEOGRAPHIC IMMUNE RESIDENT VERSUS NON RESIDENT YES , UM, ALSO WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES. OKAY? I I'M PROBABLY AN ANOMALY. I HAVE THREE LIBRARY CARDS FROM DIFFERENT LIBRARIES. SO IN LOOKING AT THIS. THIS MORNING, I WENT ONLINE TO THE OTHER TWO LIBRARIES TO SEE HOW WHAT THEIR LANGUAGE WAS, UM SEXY, SMALLER LIBRARY. BUT IT SAYS, MUST BE A TEXAS RESIDENT. BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE A SEXY RESIDENT. OKAY, SO THERE'S A GEOGRAPHIC DESIGNATION WITH THE STATE. THE OTHER LIBRARY IS RICHARDSON, WHICH IS MUCH LARGER, MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE. YES AND NO. THERE. BECAUSE, UM I THINK THIS RELATES TO THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, WHICH CHARGES OTHER LIBRARIES. UM SO THEY'RE RESTRICTIONS ARE REALLY IF YOUR LOCAL LIBRARY DOESN'T CHARGE UM THEM. THEN YOU CAN GET A LIBRARY CARD. SO THAT'S HOW I GET UP RICHARDSON CARD BECAUSE WHILE IT DOESN'T CHARGE RICHARDSON RESIDENTS, RIGHT, UM BUT THERE'S ALSO A UM, LANGUAGE IN THE RICHARDSON ABOUT UM, FOR PEOPLE IN WHAT THEY CALL IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREAS, WHICH MUST BE FAIRLY BROAD SINCE IT INCLUDES WILEY. UM SO I'M WONDERING WHETHER YOUR STAFF HAS DISCUSSED THAT AT ALL. IF IT WORRIES ME A LITTLE BIT THAT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN HERE. THAT'S VERY ACTUALLY SHARP. WE ACTUALLY TOOK IT OUT. WE HAD A WHOLE SECTION ON RESIDENT VERSUS NON RESIDENT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT WAS REALLY CONFUSING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, SO THERE'S NO POINT IN HAVING THAT BURBAGE IN THERE. UM SO WE DON'T CARE WHERE YOU'RE FROM. WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A CARD, UM, TO USE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS. A LOT OF OTHER LIBRARIES. UM LIKE YOU SAID, CHARGE NONRESIDENTS AND THEN THEREFORE IF YOUR HOME LIBRARY IF YOU'RE NOT FROM THERE, UM, CHARGES THEIR RESIDENTS, THEY DO A RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH RICHARDSON. FOR US. IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE WE'LL GIVE ANYBODY A CARD. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US. WE'RE JUST HAPPY TO SHARE RESOURCES. OKAY, SO I MEAN, IT'S GONNA PUSH IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT TWO THINGS. 
          ONE IS GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE WE'RE IN IT DOES WORRY ME A LITTLE BIT. UM, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. WHAT ABOUT IT? I GUESS SO. WHY WOULD WE LET SOMEONE FROM? I MEAN LET'S TAKE THE BROADEST SCENARIO. WHY WOULD WE LET SOMEBODY FROM OUTSIDE TEXAS? GET A LIBRARY CARD. 
          THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE , VISITING FAMILY BECAUSE THEY'RE HERE, TAKING CARE OF A LOVED ONE WHO MIGHT BE SICK. THEY MIGHT BE HERE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD, MAYBE SIX WEEKS, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AND AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GIVE THEM A TEMPORARY CARD EVERY TIME THEY COME IN, OR NOT ALLOWING THEM TO BORROW MATERIALS. WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM A CARD, AND THEN THEY JUST USE IT WHILE THEY'RE HERE, WHETHER THAT'S FOR THE TWO MONTHS THERE HERE OR WHEN THEY COME VISIT WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANDPARENTS THAT COME OVER THE SUMMER. TAKE CARE OF KIDS THAT AREN'T FROM TEXAS. THEY MIGHT BE FROM SURROUNDING STATES THAT MIGHT BE FROM CALIFORNIA. THEY MIGHT BE FROM MAINE. BUT THEY'RE HERE FOR THREE MONTHS TAKING CARE OF THE KIDS WHILE THEY'RE OUT OF SCHOOL AND IT'S JUST EASIER JUST TO SAY PUBLIC LIBRARIES. THE SPIRIT OF PUBLIC LIBRARIES IS ACCESS FOR ALL NOT JUST ACCESS FOR CITIZENS , NOT JUST ACCESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR POPULATIONS, ACCESS FOR EVERYONE, SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE ALWAYS OPERATED THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE TENANTS OF PUBLIC LIBRARIES. UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF CITIES ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT WHICH PERSONALLY, I DON'T AGREE WITH. I MEAN IT. EVERY CITY IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. UM AND IF IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE OUR RESOURCES ARE BEING JUST OVERWHELMED BY NONRESIDENTS. THEN MAYBE WE WOULD LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. 
          IT'S NEVER BEEN THAT WAY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MAJORITY RESIDENT. USAGE. OKAY? BUT THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD I WOULD BRING UP IS I'M I'M, A MEMBER OF ONE OF THE BOOK CLUBS. AND I KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW BROAD. THE MEMBERSHIP OF THAT BOOK CLUB. SHOULD BE. I'M AWARE OF THAT. OKAY, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DECISION WAS MADE. TO LIMIT IT. TO ADJACENT AREAS SHALL BE SO WHY NOT? KEEP THAT CLEAN. AND HAVE 
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THE LIBRARY BORROWING CARD. MIRROR. OR THE LIGHT OR VICE VERSA. I THINK IT'S KIND OF TWO SEPARATE ISSUES IN THE ISSUE WITH THE BOOK CLUB WAS IT WAS BECOMING TOO BIG TO MANAGE BECOMING UNMANAGEABLE, SO THERE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME PARAMETERS SET. THAT'S NOT IN A POLICY ANYWHERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE COULD GO BACK TO ALLOWING PEOPLE FROM OHIO IF THEY WANT TO. BECAUSE THE THING IS, IT'S A VIRTUAL COMPONENT. SO WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF STATE WANTING TO JOIN VIRTUALLY. BUT THE BOOK CLUB WAS ALREADY SO LARGE THAT IT WAS JUST IT WAS GETTING TOO MUCH, SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO MAKE SURE TO SAY THERE. THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE GROUP. RIGHT, SO THAT'S HOW THEY DECIDED TO DO IT. UM WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT IN IN THE 16. PLUS YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT IN THE COLLECTION WITH CHECKOUTS OR WITH YOU USAGE OF MATERIALS. I THINK IF WE WERE THEN THIS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. UM THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT, SO IT'S KIND OF DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THE ISSUE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH BOOK CLUB WAS BECAUSE IT WAS BEING OVERWHELMED IF WE WERE TRYING, STARTING TO SEE THAT SAME THING WITH MATERIALS WHERE WE'RE HAVING PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS ARE OUT OF STATE OR WHATEVER COME IN AND USING MATERIALS. 
          MORE THAN WE HAD RESIDENTS USING THEM. THEN I CAN SEE WHERE THE ARGUMENT MIGHT BE. WE NEED TO PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THAT. BUT SO FAR THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE PUT THE RESIDENT? I MEAN ALL WE ALL IT SAID WAS RESIDENTS AND NON RESIDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY. THAT WAS WHAT IT SAID BEFORE AND SO WE TOOK OUT THAT BURBAGE AND JUST PUT ADULTS 18 AND OLDER SO YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SENTIMENTS THE SAME. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS THAT CHANGE WAS DONE BY THE PRIOR LIBRARY WITH THIS. THAT'S PART OF THIS ITERATION. SO IF YOU WERE TO PULL UP THE BORROWER POLICY ON THE WEBSITE TO DIET RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOING TO SAY RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS, 1818 AND OLDER ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A LIBRARY CARD. SO WE JUST THOUGHT , WHY ARE WE SAYING RESIDENTS AND NONRESIDENTS? WHAT DOES IT MATTER? IT'S JUST ADULTS, RIGHT? IT FOR ME WAS A SIMPLIFICATION. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, AND YOU PREFER THE OTHER WAY, WE I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK. I DON'T PLAN ON PURSUING A RESTRICTED CARD ANYTIME. SOON, IF EVER YEAH. AND I THINK I MEAN , I'M I'M FINE WITH THIS. THIS CHANGE ADULTS 18 YEAR OVER ELIGIBLE FOR A CARD. UH, AS FAR AS I MEAN, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF GOING INTO A WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT NONRESIDENTS OF USING MATERIALS OR RESOURCES, TAKING SOMETHING AND NEVER RETURNING IT. UH BUT, AS YOU SAY DID THAT HASN'T BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST PAST DECADE AT THE AT THE LEAST. SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A FINE POLICY. UH EVEN THEN, CONTINUING ON THE APPLICANTS STILL NEED REQUIRED. THEIR PHOTO I D. SOME GOVERNMENT IN IDENTIFICATION. OUT OF YOUR PASSPORT, SO THERE IS SORT OF SOME BUMPERS ON THIS, UH BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH OPHELIA. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. UH AND WITHOUT ANY KIND OF HISTORY OF ABUSE OR ANYTHING. I THINK IT'D BE FAIR DID COME ON, COME ON. I THINK WE'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY SPEAKING AND SIZE WISE, WE'RE NOT LIKE A PLANO OR A MCKINNEY WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BRANCHES. SO YOU'VE GOT THESE HUGE COLLECTIONS AND PEOPLE FROM MAYBE NEIGHBORING CITIES EITHER DON'T HAVE A LIBRARY, OR MAYBE DON'T HAVE AS A ROBUST LIBRARY AND SO THEY'RE COMING TO YOU AND MAYBE TAKING UP THOSE RESOURCES. I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS PLANO WENT TO RESIDENT CARDS ONLY AT LEAST THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THEY CITED. UM WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT NOW. IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF MORE OUT OF THE WAY, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE LIBRARY? MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING . THE RATIO STAYS PRETTY STEADY AT ABOUT 60 40 65 35. BEING MOSTLY RESIDENTS AND THE REST MODERATE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON A PERSONAL LEVEL THAT, UM , SOMEONE WHO'S RELATIVELY NEW ISH WE MOVED OUT HERE BACK IN 2008. MY HUSBAND WAS LIVING. WE WERE LIVING IN TEMPORARY HOUSING OUT IN ADDISON. WHILE OUR HOUSES BEING BUILT OUT HERE. I WAS PREGNANT WITH MY SECOND HAD MY FIRST TODDLER AND I'M HUGE PROPONENT FOR LITERACY AND GETTING MY KIDS INTO A LIBRARY. THAT WAS MY SAVING GRACE, ESPECIALLY AS A STAY AT HOME MOM AND AS A NEW MOM TO TEXAS. AND LIVING OUT IN ADDISON. UM, I SURVEYED TRIED TO FIND LIBRARIES AND I WILL TELL YOU IT WAS VERY OFF PUTTING TO DISCOVER THAT WE WERE NOT WELCOME TO GET A LIBRARY CARD EVEN ON A TEMPORARY BASIS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T FROM 
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HERE. WE WEREN'T FROM THERE. WE DIDN'T LIVE THERE. SO ON A PERSONAL LEVEL I APPRECIATE HAVING THE ABILITY TO AFFORD FOLKS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED, SO THERE ARE PARAMETERS THERE. THERE'S IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED AT THIS LEVEL THAT I THINK THAT IT COULD BE REVISITED. TWO ARE CIRCUMSTANTIAL, IF NECESSARY, BUT RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT AND AGAIN. I JUST SPEAK FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT I WAS REALLY TAKEN ABACK. WE WE CAME FROM SAN FRANCISCO, THEN ALBUQUERQUE, ALBUQUERQUE WAS VERY WELCOMING OUT THERE AND AGAIN, UM, BEING RELATIVELY NEW, IT WAS VERY HARD TO HEAR. AND I MEAN, WE ENDED UP SERVING AND WE'VE BEEN WITH PUBLIC LIBRARY SINCE THEY WERE IN THE PORTABLE, BUT WE ALSO DID GO TO PLANO. UM, WE HAD TO GO THAT FAR FROM WILEY. UM TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY AND APPRECIATE THE STORY TIMES AND WHAT HAVE YOU BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THE LIMITATIONS OF IF IT WERE BEING ABUSED. YES LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SEE THAT AND I REALLY LIKE WHAT? UM MISS OPHELIA SAID, WHICH WAS THE SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES, ACCESS FOR ALL SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR THIS TIME, SO I SUPPORT WHAT THIS SAYS. SO, YOU SAID, GIVEN THE CLIMATE IS THAT THE LIKE I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE. THE CONCERN IS TO MONITOR LIKE ABUSE AND LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF OUR MATERIALS FOR EVERYBODY, UH, THE BUT I THINK AS LONG AS OUR POLICIES ARE IN PLACE WITH REGARDS TO YOU KNOW THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR MATERIALS AND THE RESPECT AND RETURNING AND THAT I THINK YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM, THE LIBRARY WOULD BE THE FIRST TO FIRST TO NOTICE IT. AT THE LIBRARY STAFF. AND SO I MEAN, I'M FOR MOVING AT LEAST THIS PART OF THE BORROWER POLICY. UH, MOVING THIS ONE FORWARD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUT OF STATE CARDS ARE VERY I MEAN, VERY RARE. VERY RARE. UM LIKE I MENTIONED THE GRANDPARENTS SCENARIO. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL GRANDPARENTS WE SEE EVERY SUMMER. UM WE HAD SOMEBODY RECENTLY WHO WAS HERE TAKING CARE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS WAS INJURED OR SICK. I CAN'T REMEMBER WAS JUST GOING TO BE HERE FOR A FEW WEEKS AND NEEDED A PLACE TO WORK AND NEEDED ACCESS TO SOME OF THE MATERIALS AND WE WERE HAPPY TO GIVE THEM A CARD. SO IT'S NOT LIKE I SAID. 
          IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE SEE OFTEN, AND I WONDER IF IT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, PLANO IS HUGE. 
          AND THEY'VE GOT CONVENTIONS AND THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, SO I CAN SEE HOW PEOPLE MIGHT COME FROM OUT OF STATE AND I DON'T KNOW. CHECK OUT A BUNCH OF STUFF AND LEAVE. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW. WE JUST DON'T. WE DON'T SEE THAT HAPPEN HERE. UM IT'S SOMETHING WE DO MONITOR THAT WE DO. CHECK WE YOU KNOW WE'RE CONSTANTLY RUNNING STATS ON THAT KIND OF STUFF. UM, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT CLIMATE, I WOULD ARGUE FOR MORE OPENNESS AND MORE ACCESS INSTEAD OF LESS, BUT THAT'S MY THAT'S MY FEELING. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NONRESIDENTS, MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING LIKE FOLKS LIVIN MURPHY'S ACSI AT THAT KIND OF STUFF. I MEAN, WE'RE ALL KIND OF THE SAME CONGLOMERATE AND YEAH, BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF OUR NON RESIDENT POPULATION IS MURPHY YEAH. MURPHY AND SEXY PROBABLY ARE THE TWO BIGGEST. LOOK HE HAS A LIBRARY. YES NO. MURPHY DOES NOT SEXY. DOES BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO SEXY AND TESTS SO SEXY IS SMALL LITTLE. COZY THAT MAKES THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, OPENED FOR NEIGHBORS. 
          BASICALLY, I MEAN, IT'S ALL WE'RE ALL KIND OF THE SAME. THE LINES OF DEMARCATION ARE PRETTY BLURRY. I MEAN, I COULD GO FIVE MILES IN THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND BEING THREE DIFFERENT TOWNS. THAT'S KIND OF THE THAT FAR APART. WE ARE. YEAH I THINK IF WE'RE GETTING A FLOOD OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE WANTING TO USE OUR RESOURCES AS A TAXPAYER, I'D SAY HO HOLD ON NOW, BUT IT'S I THINK, BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE, THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN. I MEAN, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA IF THEY WANT TO JOIN A BIGGER SYSTEM. THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO A MCKINNEY OR TO A PLAY. NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA COME TO US BECAUSE THEY HAVE FAR MORE RESOURCES AND A DINOSAUR. AND THAT'S FRISCO. YES THE DINOSAUR FRISCO. YES PLANO CONFUSED RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. THE FRISCO IS THE WINNER. THERE WE DO HAVE SOME PLAY, NO CARDS. UM. BUT YEAH, BY FAR THE MOST IS MURPHY AND SEXY. ONE FINAL QUESTION. AND THEN EVEN MAYBE ALREADY MOVE ON ON PAGE NINE. THE EXTENDED USE FEE, HE SAID. THE WIDELY CODE OF ORDINANCES IS WHERE THOSE SORT OF FIND THESE SCHEDULES WILL BE. WE POSTED CORRECT CHANGES THAT ARE MADE BY LIBRARY STAFF SAY ABOUT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS THIS PRODUCT, UH, THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY OF WILEY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S 
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AN ORDINANCE. ANY CHANGE WE MAKE OF THAT HAS TO BE PRESENTED AT THE COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT. SO WE CAN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING JUST BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO BE JUSTIFIED AND PRESENTED IN THAT SHIP. AND THAT IF YOU GO TO THAT CODE OF ORDINANCES, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS. UM THEY ONLY UPDATE IT SO MANY TIMES, SO IT MAY SAY 50 CENTS FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THAT MEETING SHOWING IT WAS APPROVED, THEN WE'RE WELCOME TO GOING AHEAD AND CHANGING IT. UM SENTENCE OF REDUCTION IN FINES. I'M REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE A OKAY WITH IT. IF IT WAS GOING TO BE AN INCREASE, WE WOULD DO A LOT MORE. YOU KNOW? HEY, GUYS, HEADS UP KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT? GETTING THE WORD OUT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. DOES THAT HELP ROBERTA, ARE YOU. IT'S OKAY NOT TO AGREE. OH YEAH, I THINK I THINK IT'S SORT OF MY INFORMATION WAS OKAY. THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANT CERTAIN BOOKS OR THINGS OFF THE SHELVES, AND THEY WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE LIBRARY CARDS DID COME AND JUST KIND OF TAKE ALL OF THIS PARTICULAR BOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR. DVD, BUT UNTIL THAT THAT HAPPENS. RIGHT, WELL. UH IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR ALTERATIONS, CAN I GET A MOTION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE REVISED BORROWER POLICY WITH THE CHANGES? THIS IS IRENE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POLICY WITH THE CHANGES. THIS IS ZACK I SECOND. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND GET OUR VOTES IN REAL QUICK. THE HOUNDS. RELEASE THE HOUNDS. 
          YES. THE POWER NO, NEVER HAPPENED. WHEN THAT MOTION PAST 502 BOARD MEMBERS ABSENCE THANK YOU, SENIOR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP OR MONTHLY REPORT. TAKES WAY OF YOU. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST I WANT TO POINT OUT I DID CHANGE BUSINESS EXCHANGE ON THE LEFT HAND COLUMN. SO NOW WE REMEMBER WHAT THE SO THINGS ARE JUST GOING. AS USUAL, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN A LITTLE DIP IN NUMBERS ONLY BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSED TWO DAYS BETWEEN OCTOBER 19TH AND NOVEMBER 15TH. WE HAD VETERANS DAY IN THERE. SO WE WERE CLOSE ON A FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, WE ALSO UNDERNEATH THAT HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS FOR OUR DIFFERENT DATABASES WERE STILL UM. FIGURING OUT NUMBERS FOR THE APP. I THINK WE BARELY HAD EVEN A MONTH'S WORTH OF INFORMATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND PRESENT THAT IN JANUARY BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE INFO TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S GOING WELL. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT AND GET MORE PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD THAT. DIGITAL RESOURCE USAGE. AS YOU CAN SEE LIBBY STILL PRETTY STEADY HOOPLA AGAIN. THE SAME CANOPIES DOING WELL, SO ALL OF THAT'S GOING GREAT. THEN GOING ON. TO TWO PAGE 14. THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MEETINGS, TRAININGS. MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION. UM. 
          THAT HAPPENED OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          EARLIER WE HAVE LOOKING AT 1019 INTERVIEWED FOR VARIOUS CIRCULATION POSITIONS. UH INTERVIEWS COMING ALONG, AND NOW WE HAVE TO OPENINGS. YEAH LAURA SAID CIRCUS FULLY STUFFED, BUT I THINK THAT'S INCORRECT. I THINK THERE'S STILL ONE PART TIME POSITION OPEN AND THEN WE JUST HAD SOMEBODY LEAVE THEIR LAST DAY WAS LAST WEEK IN THE U SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE A REFERENCES, ISN'T IT POSITION OPEN, BOTH PART TIME POSITIONS. BUT YES, GETTING LOTS OF GOOD APPLICANTS AND DOING LOTS OF INTERVIEWING. WE HAVE LOTS OF NEW PEOPLE THAT WE'VE HIRED OVER THE LAST MONTH, SO THAT'S EXCITING. OTHER THAN THE LIKE. BIG STAFF TRAININGS PLANNED FOR THE NEW INFLUX OF BULLIES. NO WE TEND TO DO STAFF TRAINING INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE EACH DEPARTMENT EACH JOB IS KIND OF VERY INDIVIDUAL AND WHAT THEY DO , BUT WE DO HAVE BIG STAFF 
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TRAININGS ONCE A YEAR, PARTICULARLY IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE IN SERVICE DATE FOR THE LIBRARY, AND THEN THE CITY DOES ONE AND IN SERVICE AS WELL FOR ALL STAFF IN SEPTEMBER. 
          MAY NOT BE ON HERE. CAN I ASK HOW THE MAY NOT BE A QUESTION HOW THE LORD DOG PARK THAT'S GETTING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NEXT TO THE LIBRARY SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. THEY SAY BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, WHICH IS THURSDAY. IT'S LIKE AH, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT DOESN'T WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR SURE, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT ORIGINALLY I HAD HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE BY THE 30TH. MAYBE THEY ARE THAT CLOSE. I DON'T KNOW. IT SEEMS LIKE THEY STILL NEED GRASS OUT THERE. BUT IT'S A LOT BIGGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF COOL. IS IT? THE STAFF ANTICIPATING THERE BEING ANY SORT OF PROBLEMS WITH PATRONS WERE WE'VE ALREADY DONE A REFRESH ON OUR ANIMALS IN THE LIBRARY POLICY FOR YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE STAFF REMINDED THEM WHAT THE, UM POLICY IS WHAT WE CAN ASK. WE CAN'T ASK. YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO. IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH THEIR PUPPY, AND THEN ARE YOU SERVICES STAFF WANTS TO GO OUT AND DO PUPPY STORYTIME OUT THERE SO THAT'LL BE CUTE. YEAH. 
          WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT MANY OF OUR MEETINGS, TRAINING HIGHLIGHTS. DO YOU HAVE FOR YOUR MONTHLY CIRCULATION? WHAT'S YOURS? LIKE GOLD, LIKE IN AN IDEAL WORLD, LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU LOVE TO SEE THAT NUMBER AS HMM. HOW MANY ITEMS DO LAURA SAID WE HAD 100 AND ALL OF THEM? NO. UM, UM WHAT'S WHAT'S MAINTAINABLE? YEAH THAT'S THE QUESTION TYPICALLY, UM ABOUT HALF THE COLLECTION IS CHECKED OUT AT ANY ONE TIME AND IT KIND OF TURNS OVER IN THE SUMMER, THAT NUMBER GOES UP TO ABOUT 60 65. SO, UM AS LONG AS WE KEEP PRETTY STEADY. I MEAN, 44 IS NOT QUITE PATH, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN KIND OF OUR SLOWER TIME RIGHT NOW, UM AFTER ALL, ONCE THE HOLIDAYS HIT, IT JUST KIND OF GETS A LITTLE QUIET AGAIN UNTIL ABOUT MARCH IS WHEN THINGS PICK UP. SO, UM THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. YEAH. ABOUT 50 TO 70,000. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER THERE IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER WAS A LITTLE HIGHER. BUT EVEN THEN, AUGUST IS A WIND DOWN FROM JUNE JULY ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LAST OF THE YEAR OR DECEMBER AND JANUARY 20 FOR LIBRARY PROGRAMS. YES WE'RE SPANNING TWO MONTHS BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. UM WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU ALL. 
          OKAY SO WE DON'T REALLY DO. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING SPECIAL THIS YEAR FOR THE HOLIDAY JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY ITSELF THE WAY SCHOOLS OUT. IT'S LIKE AFTER THE HOLIDAY THAT THEY THEY'RE OFF, AND SO IT JUST GOT WEIRD AND THEN WE WERE SHORT STAFFED AND WE WERE LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO EVEN HAVE PEOPLE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO A SPECIAL THINGS? SO WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP IT LOW KEY THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING PARTICULARLY HOLIDAY SPECIAL. EXCEPT FOR TOMORROW. SIX O'CLOCK IS HOLIDAY HERBS IN THE LOBBY. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE FIVE HARPS. THEY'RE DOING A HEART CONCERT HOLIDAY. UM SONG, SO COME ON OUT AND KICK OFF YOUR HOLIDAY SEASON WITH THAT THAT'LL BE NICE, BUT ALL OF OUR USUAL BOOK CLUBS. UM ALL THAT STUFF IS GOING ON. A FEW OF THEM DO TAKE OFF IN DECEMBER JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY FALL IN THE CALENDAR DOES INTERFERE WITH THE HOLIDAY. SO FOR EXAMPLE , UM, ON PAGE 16, MY VERY OWN BOOK CLUB DOESN'T MEET IN IN DECEMBER. NEITHER DOES IDEALAB JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH. AND SO IT JUST ENDS UP INTERFERING WITH UM, HOLIDAY STUFF. AND IT WAS. IF YOU CHANGE THE DAY IT JUST MESSES EVERYTHING UP THE CALENDAR. PEOPLE GET CONFUSED. 
          IT'S JUST TOO MUCH, SO WE JUST DON'T DO IT IN DECEMBER AND PICK IT BACK UP IN JANUARY. THE RENTAL READING CHALLENGE IS COMING UP. THAT'S JENNIFER KIDS. THAT'S JANUARY 5TH THROUGH THE NINTH SO KIDS CAN PICK UP A LOG AT THE CHILDREN'S TASK. THEY FINISHED THE CHALLENGE AND GET A PRAISE. UM, THEY CAN DO IT AS MANY TIMES AS THEY WANT. AND THEN WE HAVE THE MARTIN KING DAY TREASURE HUNT IN JANUARY. IT'S KIND OF A SPECIAL THING FOR THE KIDS. AND THEN ON PAGE 17. YOU WILL SEE WHAT OUR HOLIDAY CLOSURES ARE, UM, FOR CHRISTMAS WERE CLOSED FRIDAY. THE 22ND 
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SATURDAY. THE 23RD. WE'RE ALWAYS CLOSED SUNDAY AND THEN MONDAY THE 25TH. WE'RE BACK ON THE 26TH AT 10 AM NEW YEAR'S JUST THAT ONE DAY MONDAY AND THEN MLK DAY IS JUST THAT ONE MONDAY. IN THE NEW WIDELY I SD SCHOOLS THERE LAST SEMESTER IS THE 22ND THAT FRIDAY, THE CLOSED IN THE STUDENTS WON'T COME BACK UNTIL I BELIEVE THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY, JANUARY, 7TH OR EIGHTH YEAH, THAT SOUNDS RIGHT THERE. AND THEN THEY'RE OFF AGAIN. I'M OKAY. YES. WHAT IS THIS? SO THE LAST PAGE IS THE REVIEW FOR SPOOKY NIGHT AND MURDER MYSTERY NIGHT, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT THESE WERE THE BIG FALL PROGRAMS FOR THE FRIENDS OF SPEAKING NIGHT WE HAD ABOUT 400 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. IT WAS SUCH A BIG HIT WAS SO MUCH FUN. THEY BROUGHT BACK THE COSTUME CONTEST. WE HAD SO MANY LITTLE CUTIES ALL DRESSED UP AS YOU CAN SEE OUR LITTLE PRINCESS LEIA. THEY'RE WITH THEIR ISN'T SHE ADORABLE? ANYWAY IN THE HALL, MARIO FAMILY THERE IN THE MIDDLE. SO UM, THAT WAS A BIG HIT. HAD A LOT OF FUN DOING THAT IRENE CAME OUT AND GAVE OUT STEPS. ROBERTA WAS THEY'RE HEADING OUT STUFF. DID IT FEEL LIKE 400 PEOPLE? YEAH IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE. YEAH SO IT WAS MANAGEABLE. YES, IT WAS NICE KIND OF SPREAD OUT AND WE HAD LOTS OF THINGS FOR THEM TO DO TO TRY TO KEEP THEM FROM ALL BEING IN ONE PLACE AND THEN MURDER MYSTERY NIGHT. SO THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE EVER DONE EVER. 
          WE HAD 66 IN ATTENDANCE. IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. THE THEATER TROUPE DID SUCH A FANTASTIC JOB LIKE THEY CAME IN IN CHARACTER AND THAT THAT'S JUST WHO THEY WERE, YOU KNOW? SO SITTING THERE ON THE LEFT THAT WAS MOTHER GOOSE, ENTERTAINING, TELLING HER STORY TO THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT HER ALIBI WAS. AND THEN WE HAD EDGAR ALLAN POE THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT WE ALSO HAD, UM DR JOHN WATSON, TRUMAN CAPOTE, AMELIA EARHART. AH! WAS THAT EVERYBODY'S HERE, CAPTAIN AHAB. 
          AND THE PREMISE WAS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS THAT PETER PAN WAS MURDERED, AND THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHO DID IT WITH WHAT, AND SOME OF THEM EVEN WENT SO FAR AS WHY AND THEN THEY GOT IT RIGHT? SO, BUT I WAS CONCERNED THAT UM PEOPLE WOULD BE DONE REALLY FAST AND THEY WOULD JUST BE SITTING AROUND. BUT THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT FINISHED WE'RE AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES IN AND THAT WAS THIS IS A TWO HOUR PROGRAM, SO WE HAD GAMES, AND WE HAD ALAN FOR MURDER, PLAYING IN THE MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, SO WHEN THEY WERE DONE, THEY COULD COME HANG OUT, AND THEY WERE ALL TALKING THEORIES TO EACH OTHER. WOULD YOU WOULD YOU BUILD BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TURN IN THEIR SHEET AS TO WHAT IT WAS AND SO IT WAS REALLY FUN, AND ABOUT HALF OF THEM. GOT IT, RIGHT. SO IT WAS. IT WAS HARD ENOUGH THAT YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE KEPT GOING BACK AND INTERVIEWING THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, BUT THEY SAID THIS AND THEY, YOU KNOW THEY WERE COMPLETELY AND THEN THEY GET OFF IN THEIR LITTLE GROUPS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE LISTENING TO WHAT THEY WERE SAYING. IT WAS REALLY CUTE. SO UM, WE'RE TOTALLY GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. WE'RE THINKING MAY OF NEXT YEAR. THE ADULTS SUMMER READING THEME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS ONLY MURDERS IN THE LIBRARY JUST LIKE ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING. SO PERFECT THERE IS, IS JUST GOING TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT. SO, UM, ANYWAY, IT'LL BE FUN. EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING IT BECAUSE YOU SAID, YOU SAID, MAY ARE WE GOING TO TRY AND DO TWO A YEAR OR AH, YEAH, POSSIBLY BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A BIG SUCCESS AND THEY HAD SO MUCH FUN WITH IT. WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THE NEXT ONE THAT WE INCREASE ATTENDANCE, MAYBE HOPEFULLY DOUBLE, BUT WE'LL SEE THAT MAYBE AMBITIOUS. WE'VE NEVER DONE IT BEFORE, SO WE WEREN'T REALLY SURE WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT IT WENT REALLY WELL. IT'S VERY FUNNY. AS THERE ARE NO MORE PAGES IN OUR AGENDA. ANY OTHER COMMENTS CONCERNS QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALRIGHT. I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE. A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IS IRENE AND SECOND PROMOTION. 
          SHOOT THE VOTE. HMM. I FEEL SO OFFICIAL. THE MOTION TO ADJOURN PASSES 5 TO 0. 
          ALRIGHT 749 MEETING IS ADJOURNED . THANK YOU, EVERYBODY HAPPY HOLI
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.