[CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] OH CALLED ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING WIDELY PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION FOR SEPTEMBER 5TH. 2023. IT APPEARS THAT. EVERYONE IS HERE, MINUS COMMISSIONER CHANDLER. UM. THE INVOCATION WILL BE. DONE BY COMMISSIONER GOOSE AND THE PLEDGE WILL BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER BUTLER JUST ARISE. FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS WERE WILDLY PLEASE BE WITH EACH OF US TONIGHT. AS WE EVALUATE THE REQUESTS BROUGHT TO US GIVE US WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. CERTAINLY AND CONCERNING WHAT WE DO TONIGHT. WE HAVE A SYSTEM. YOUR SON JESUS. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. JUSTICE WORLD. OKAY MOVING ON TO COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. IT HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THAT AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. AND SINCE [CONSENT AGENDA] THERE'S NO ONE HERE WE'LL CLOSE THAT. AND MOVED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS ANYTHING THEY'D BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONING RAIN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GRAZER PLEASE VOTE. AND WE PASS. 60. MOVING ON TO REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE. CONSIDER AND ACT [1. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Lot 2R Block A of Wylie Retail Office Park for the development of a retail use on 2.595 acres. Property generally located at 2045 N State Highway 78.] UPON A SITE PLAN FOR LOT TO OUR BLOCK A OF WILEY RETAIL OFFICE PARK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RETAIL USE ON 2.595 ACRES PROPERLY. PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED AT 2045 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY, 78. MR KEVIN. YES SIR. ONLY ITEM ON THE REGULAR AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN. UM TO DEVELOP 16,762 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. THIS IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CRAMER LEAN AND STATE HIGHWAY 78. IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARCOS PIZZA. SO THIS IS A VACANT COMMERCIAL PAD SITE THAT USED TO BE TWO LOTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THEY SUBMITTED A REPLY TO COMBINE THE TWO LOTS INTO ONE AND THEN HERE'S THE NEW PROPOSED SITE PLAN. HMM AND IT SHOWS A FIRE LANE THAT LEAPS AROUND THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSED USE IS FOR A RESTAURANT SPACE, AND THE REST IS FOR RETAIL. UM THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH SLIGHT DESIGN STANDARDS. THEY ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A MASONRY WALL THAT MATCHES WHAT'S EXISTING ON THE ADJACENT LOT. AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER TO THE 3 TO 1. UM RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, WAIVERS THAT THEY CAN GET EXCEPTIONS THAT THEY CAN GET FOR THAT. UM, THE BUILDING ITSELF. MEASURE HAS A BRICK STONE AND STUCCO MATERIAL AND THEY HAVE INTERESTS IS THAT ARE EMPHASIZED AS WELL. THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT ALSO JUST WALKED IN. KEVIN THE, UH. JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT ADJOINING. ON THE ON THE ON THE SURVEY. WHAT IS THAT A GATE OR SOMETHING ACROSS THE OPENING. ON THE SURVEY PORTION THERE. WHAT IS THAT? RIGHT ABOVE WHERE IT SAYS 14 FT. ALI RIGHT AWAY. IS HE ASKING ABOUT? YES WHAT IS THAT PLACE? MANHOLE THAT'S A YES, IT'S A MANHOLE, SAYS A STORM INLET. BUT HERE UNDERNEATH IT. AH SO THAT'S JUST A PATCH OF CONCRETE BETWEEN I THOUGHT IT WAS A BIG GATE OR SOMETHING TO LET YOU INTO THE ALLEY. WHITTAKER PEOPLE LIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. KILLING. EXPLAIN TO ME. THE THIRD PARAGRAPH THAT DEVELOPERS REQUESTING A WAIVER. [00:05:03] 321 RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SETBACK RECORDER. HOW DOES HAVING THAT MEANDERING SIDEWALK. GET THEM INTO A POSITION WHERE THEY SO WE SHOULD. THE FORWARD ON THAT REQUEST, RIGHT ZONING ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE PNG COMMISSION MAY ALLOW FOR AN EXEMPTION TO THE 3 TO 1 REAL PRESIDENTIAL SETBACK. IF THERE'S AN ADJOINING WALKWAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND CURRENTLY THEY HAVE THAT MEANDERING SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO CRAMER LANE. THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO ONE RESIDENTIAL SETTING. SO WHAT THAT MEANS, ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT LET'S SAY 20 FT. IN HEIGHT, YOU MULTIPLY THAT TIMES THREE, SO IT HAS TO BE SET BACK 60 FT. THAT'S HOW YOU GET TO THE 3 TO 1. AND THAT'S TO PREVENT WHAT THAT'S JUST, UH. UH PRETTY MUCH PRIVACY, PRIVACY AND VISUAL CLUTTER. THE IDEA IS, YOU DON'T WANT LIKE A 10 FT. COMMERCIAL BILL, OR, YOU KNOW, A 10 STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING LOOKING RIGHT INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. SO TO SPEAK? YEAH SO IN THE ELEVATION ELEVATION FOR THIS IS 30 FT. THE ELEVATION IS GOING TO BE A 28 FT. THEY'RE GOING TO REDUCE THAT TO 28 FT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE 24 FT FIRE LANES. IF IT'S OVER 28 FT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WIDEN IT TO 26 FT. I'M LOOKING AT A ON WHAT IS THIS PAGE ON 14? AH, THE SCHEMATIC THAT SHOWS IS THAT THE HEIGHT. AT 30 FT. CORRECT HEIGHT THAT'S PRESENTED RIGHT NOW SHOWS 30 FT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE REDUCED TO 28. OKAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LIKE HOW MUCH. LESS THEY'RE NOT MEETING OF THAT SETBACK. IS IT LIKE. SO I ASSUME THIS PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE REWRITTEN TO REFLECT 28 FT VERSUS 30 FT. THE FOR THE ELEVATION ON THE YOUR APPROVAL. YOU CAN STATE THAT THAT IS FOR 28. FT. KEVIN IS THAT SMALLER OR LARGER OR SIMILAR TO THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO MARCO'S PIZZA BUILDING? IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT AROUND THE SAME HEIGHT PROPORTIONAL CORRECT. AND I GUESS ENGINEERING IS GOOD WITH THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE THAT SOUTH INSURANCE EXIT. THERE'S NO LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING. THERE'S WE LANDSCAPING? YOU'RE ASKING HIM ABOUT THE VISIBILITY ALARM. RIGHT HERE ON THE SOUTH END RIGHT THERE LIKE YOU'RE COMING OUT AS WE CARS COMING FROM CRAMER VEGETATION THAT THEY HAVE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT VISIBILITY TRIANGLE. OKAY IS THE VISIT IS THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN DIDN'T COME IN VERY GOOD, SO IT'S HARD TO READ. A LOT OF THESE LABELS IS THAT BATCH, THE VISIBILITY TRIANGLE OR WHAT IS IT? YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT . THE QUALITY GOT DROPPED WHEN THEY GOT REDUCED THE LETTER SIZE. SHE DID. THE APPLICANT WILL PROBABLY LIKE WE KNOW WHAT THE HATCHES ARE SUPPOSED TO MEAN. I COULD HAVE HER. THAT'S OKAY. YOU WANNA COME UP? JUST COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE JUST, UH. I UH SO MY NAME IS GEORGE HER AND WANTED TO WRITE DOWN SOMEWHERE. JUST STATE. YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY MY ADDRESS IS 1963 MCLAREN DRIVING IN THE CITY OF L AND I'M THE ENGINEER OF THIS PROJECT. YEAH. SO DO ANY OF THE PLANS SHOW VISIBILITY TRIANGLE. YEAH. WHICH PART AH! TO HATCH. THE HEDGE POWER IS AVAILABILITY TRIANGLE. OKAY NO, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TRIANGLE ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE'S NO TREES IN IT. FOR THIS. YOU LOOK RIGHT? SEE YOU THIS TRIANGLE, RIGHT? I SEE. NONE OF THE TREES ARE IN THAT, OKAY? I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND IT NOW. DO YOU KNOW? [00:10:10] I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER FOR 3 TO 1. YOU KNOW WHAT THE DISTANCE IS? FROM THE BUILDING. TO THE RESIDENTIAL. BUT THESE TESTS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT I'M ASSUMING IF YOU'RE 28 FT, YOU SAID 3 TO 1 THAT'S GOING TO BE 84 FT. THEY'VE GOT A 3 FT. SIDEWALK ON THE BACK THEN THEY'VE GOT 24 FT ACCESS EASEMENT. AND SO THAT'S 27 THE PARKING SPACE THAT'S 47 AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE HE'S AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS 10 FT WIDE, SO THAT'S 57. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE 3 FT. 54 54 PLUS FIVE, SAID WORK IS TRUE. B 59, I THINK FROM THE APPROACH LINE TO THE BUILDING THAT WAS JUST WONDERING. IT'S NOT LIKE HALF NO , I MEAN IT'S A COUPLE TRYING TO RECORD IT WAS THE ONLY THING IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY ITEMS SET OUT, AND THAT'S WHY BECAUSE KEVIN AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND, UM YOU KNOW YOU'RE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO THE YOU KNOW TO REQUIRE THEM TO SET UP. BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SO CLOSE, WE FELT AT LEAST COMFORTABLE PRESENTING IT. SO DO WE KNOW TO THE MARCO PIZZA PLACE? THAT'S IT'S PROPORTIONAL. IS IT IS IT FURTHER TOWARDS THE HOUSE, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE? YOU KNOW? I GUESS I'M NOT SEEING THAT ANY WE HAD A, UM , A GOOGLE MAP THAT WAS UP EARLIER. BUT I CAN'T. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ONE WENT. KIND OF SHOWS THAT IS. DID THEY GET THE DID THEY GET THE WAIVER THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, RIGHT? THEY DIDN'T IF YOU CAN SEE IT, IT IS GOING TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS WITH THE ADJACENT BUILDING THE PLACEMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM IT. I MEAN, YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S USING THAT EXISTING DRIVE SO YOU CAN KIND OF GAUGE IT BY THAT AS WELL. SO. COME UP AND SPEAK. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HEAR YOU THINK OUR CLIENT HAS THE AGREEMENT LIST JASON PROPERTY OWNER THAT OUR BUILDING CANNOT LIKE BLOCKS THE REAL FOR THEIR BUILDING, SO IT SHOULD BE AH, ALIGNING WITH THEIR BUILDING. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONERS. OTHERWISE I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THE 20. PEOPLE VERSUS 30. IN THE MOST IN THE MOTION. AND THAT YOU'RE APPROVING THE WAIVER TO THE 3 TO 1 RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT. OKAY, SO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS SO YOU HEARD THAT? SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVED. WITH THE 3 TO 1 WAIVER. WE AGREE TO AND THE ELEVATION HEIGHT NOT TO EXCEED 28 FT. THE MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LORRAINE I. SECOND, THE MOTION. SECOND COMMISSIONER GOUJON, PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES 60. GOOD LUCK. MANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. COMMENTS WE WILL HAVE A MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. YES, WE HAVE. TO ZONING CASES ON THE SITE PLAN. I BELIEVE SO WE LIVE ON A LOT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA. YES, SIR. IF THAT'S TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY. FIVE PLUS FOUR. YEAH. THAT CHECKS OUT TO CHECK WITH THE ENGINE. I GOTTA CHECK MY MOUTH WITH THE ENGINEER. HMM. THAT IT I'LL TAKE HIM. I MAKE A MOTION WE ADJOURN. THE SECOND EMOTION. WE GOTTA EMOTION, SECOND. SEE YOU LATER. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.