[Municipal Walking Trails Artist/Community Input Meeting on August 10, 2023.]
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OKAY I THINK WE CAN GET STARTED. UM OKAY, WHEN YOU SPEAK, JUST PUSH DOWN ON THE SPEAK BUTTON, AND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK. SO I'D LIKE TO START OUT BY WELCOMING EVERYONE AND ALSO WELCOMING THE ARTISTS ARE GUESTS . AND IF I COULD START WITH PATRICK, WOULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO THE FOLKS THAT CAME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF? TESTING, OKAY? AH! MY NAME IS PATRICK SULLIVAN. I'M DO ALL OF AMERICAN CANADIAN CITIZEN I'M ALSO A CITIZEN OF THE CHEROKEE NATION.
AND I'M VERY PROUD AND HONORED TO BE HERE. UM. PURSUING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF WILDLY AND THE CATO. NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE. WHICH IS VERY CLOSELY. WELL THEY'RE LIKE NEIGHBORS WITH THE CHEROKEES. SO UM, IT'S A REAL HONOR TO BE HERE, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE IN THE CITY OF WILEY FOR INCLUDING ME IN THIS PROCESS. THIS IS MY WIFE , SHARON SULLIVAN. SHE'S UH. PART OF THE TEAM. SULLIVAN AND SULLIVAN PUBLIC ART I HAVE WORK AND THREE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. I WORK EXCLUSIVELY WITH STONE. I FIND IT TO BE, UH. ONE OF THE MOST SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS YOU CAN WORK WITH, AND, UH AH BELIEVE IN THE. THE PHILOSOPHY OF MICHELANGELO THAT THE SPIRITS AND THE STONE BUT I'VE ALSO ADDED THE POWER IS IN THE STONE, TOO. SO I HOPE TO BRING THAT SOME OF THAT POWER TO THE PEOPLE OF WILEY. AND THE POWER OF THE CATO PEOPLE. THE ORIGINAL SETTLERS, ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THE AREA AND THEIR SPIRITS STILL WALK AROUND. AND THEY'RE HELPING AMERICA. GROW AND GET BIGGER. SO YEAH, I. I HAVE WORK . AND VANDALIA, OHIO, TULSA, OKLAHOMA. UM. COUPLE OF SCULPTURES, THEIR PUBLIC ART AND ONE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA. AND, UH, SEVERAL IN CANADA AND PEACE AND WEST GERMANY, NEW MEXICO. UM ENOUGH ABOUT MYSELF ANYWAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING BEING HERE. YOUR TURN. ALRIGHT. HI. MY NAME IS YOSHIKAWA, RIGHT? JAPANESE AMERICANS STONE SCULPTOR. JUST LIKE PATRICK AMOUNT. THEY'RE CHIPPING AWAY ON THE STONE. AH I'M SURE WE BOTH HAVE VERY SIMILAR FEELINGS. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS FEEL A VERY INTIMATE CONNECTION WITH STONE. SO UM, THAT'S THAT'S BEEN MY PASSION EVER SINCE I FOUND THAT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO, I GOT MY B F A FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO. AND AFTER GRADUATING, I WENT TO THE STONE QUARRIES IN JAPAN AND WALK AND WORKED IN THE STONE QUARRIES THERE. SO IT'S SORT OF DID MY APPRENTICE APPRENTICESHIP IN JAPAN. AND, UM . SO IT'S INTERESTING FOR ME TO BE YOU KNOW, A FINALIST IN THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S UH YOU KNOW THE LAND IS THERE AND IT HAS A CERTAIN SIGNIFICANCE. SO IT'S INTERESTING COMING UP WITH A CREATIVE SOLUTION. IN ORDER TO EXPRESS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF A CERTAIN LOCATION. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH WRESTLING WITH THAT WHOLE PROSPECT. AND VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU.
YOU WILL NEED TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONE SOFT AFTER SO MUCH. UM I'M ERIC NUBBY. I'M A SCULPTOR FROM ALABAMA. UM ORIGINALLY GOT MY B F A FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA AND I'VE BEEN WORKING IN AND OUT OF BOUNDARIES AND DIFFERENT ARTISTS STUDIOS THE LAST DECADES. UM MY PRIMARILY STARTED IN WOODWORKING, CERAMICS. CASTING AND FABRICATION. UM MY STYLE IS KIND OF A MIX OF CLASSICAL AND CONTEMPORARY. I USE A LOT OF COMPUTER BASED DESIGNING IN MY WORK, BUT I ALSO KNOW HOW TO LIKE. SCULPT WITH CLAY AND MAKE A MOLD. AND TAKE THAT MOLD ALL
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THE WAY TO FINISH BRONZE PIECE, INCLUDING LIKE BETTINO. AND I JUST APPROACH MY WORK WITH ALL OF THESE SKILL SETS TO PRODUCE A PIECE. UM. I GUESS THAT'S THE BASICS. UM IT'S EXCITING TO BE HERE AND TEXAS TO SEE YOUR CITY. UM FROM THE TOWN. THAT'S NOT THAT DISSIMILAR TO THIS PLACE THAT HAS A UNIQUE FEEL THAT'S LARGE WITH A SPILL. KIND OF SMALL TOWN FEEL AT THE SAME TIME, SO IT'S NICE TO BE A PROUD PART OF A PROJECT THAT WOULD IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHENEVER I TAKE ON A PUBLIC WORK, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING TOWARDS HOW CAN I SERVE THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS PIECE? ALL RIGHT. PATRICK. YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONE OFF. NO, IT'S OFF RIGHT NOW. UM YEAH, I'M SONNY. UM, I GREW UP IN SOUTH AFRICA. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE U. S FOR A FEW YEARS. AND, UH, YEAH, I WORK IN DIFFERENT MEDIUMS STARTED PAINTING. LARGE SCALE MURALS. AND. THAT LED ME TO TRAVEL THE WORLD PUBLIC ARTS AND EVERY CONTINENT LIKE TRAVEL AROUND DOING THEM MANY CITIES. AND OVER THE YEARS I'VE USED DIFFERENT MEDIUMS TO DO MY MEALS. I'VE HAD TO ADAPT AND USE DIFFERENT TOOLS, DIFFERENT MEDIUMS TO EXPRESS WHAT I WANT TO EXPRESS PUBLICLY. AND. A FEW YEARS BACK, GOT INTO SCULPTURE. AND IT'S BEEN A DIFFERENT JOURNEY FROM YOU, TOO. TWO. TO TRANSFORM WHAT THE START OF MY ARTWORK INTO THREE D. THREE D MEDIUM. AND YEAH, THAT'S UH, THAT'S BEEN A JOURNEY. THAT'S EXCITED ABOUT AND MY. MY WORK GROWING UP IN SOUTH AFRICA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONNECTED TO THE NATURAL WORLD. SO MY WORK. THE THEMES ARE IN MY WORK HAS CENTERED AROUND WHICH ARM. MY GUESS I WORK A LOT WITH A LOT OF CONSERVATIONS, TOO. TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR DIFFERENT ANIMALS , BUT MAINLY NATURAL SPACES. UM AND THAT THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UH GROWING UP IN SOUTH AFRICA AND SEEING NATURAL SPACES DIMINISH, UM HAS BEEN WORRYING FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT NATURE IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING FOR HUMANS AND CLASS THAT WE. WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT CONNECTION WITH IN ORDER TO BE HUMAN IN THE WORLD THAT'S CONFUSING AND UM AND EVERYTHING , AND, UM TO MY WORK VERY MUCH SPEAKS TO THAT. AS REALLY EXCITED TO BE A FINALIST ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. HAVE A BIG CONNECTION WITH NATURE. THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. CAN YOU HEAR HIM? ALRIGHT. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE AND YOU KNOW, THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT . UM AND THEN I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT CONNECTION AND FIND A LOT OF MEANING FROM NATURE. AND UH, YEAH, SO IT'S EXCITING TO KIND OF PROJECT WITH THIS THEME, AND ESPECIALLY IN SCULPTURE, SO EXCITED TO BE A. OKAY SO YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE ARTIST, SO I GUESS WE CAN START ON THE FIRST DROVE FROM LEFT TO RIGHT. HMM AND IF EACH OF YOU WILL JUST STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND JUST GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT HMM. TURN IT ON. HELLO.HI I'M JULIE. UM. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ALL AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY TOUGH DECISION TO NARROW IT DOWN TO THE FINAL PIECES. UM. I HAVEN'T REALLY PREPARED ANYTHING. YOU HAVEN'T PUT ME ON THE SPOT, CAROL. UM HOW ARE YOU ENJOYING THE TEXAS HEAT TO THE IN WITH IT'S A GREAT TIME TO BE IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW. ALABAMA. IS
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IT REALLY WISH IT WAS? YEAH, YEAH. LIKE WHERE? VISITING THINGS? YES. SOAKING. YEAH. IT'S TOUGH. IT'S ROUGH. SO ALWAYS, UM . AUGUST AND THEN SEPTEMBER IS EVEN WORSE THAN AUGUST. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GET A BREAK. AND ABOUT THE LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER, IT STARTS TO FINALLY COOL OFF.ANYHOW UM, I GUESS I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR EACH OF YOU WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WALKING AROUND, UM THE TRAIL OUTSIDE YESTERDAY. YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF FEELINGS DID YOU GET? UM AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD FOR US ABOUT? JUST THE LANDSCAPE OR I DON'T KNOW. JUST MAYBE SOME BASIC IDEAS OR CONCEPTS THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO FORM THAT MAYBE WE COULD PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON PATRICK.
OH, THERE WE GO. DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING? I SAID, YEAH. I GUESS THE SONG CARRIES PRETTY WELL.
UH, YEAH, I'VE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS ON SITE AND INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY GALLERIES AND EVEN IN PARKING LOTS AND STUFF AND PEOPLE. LIKE KIDS COME WITH A SCHOOL BUS AND THEY DID TOURISM VANDALIA ON A REGULAR BASIS. I HAVE A GUEST BOOK WITH THOUSANDS OF NAMES. FROM PROJECTS GOING BACK TO 1987. BUT I GOT TO START A NEW ONE. SO MAYBE YOU CAN START ONE HERE. UM I HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR LIKE A VERTICAL. UH, SCULPTURE, POSSIBLY AND INDIANA LIMESTONE, WHICH IS SORT OF BROWNISH RUN RED TINGE TO IT. AND, UH, IT'S KIND OF. TWO ATOMIC, BUT THERE'D BE SYMBOLS FROM THE ANCIENT POTTERY FROM THE CATO. AH! GOING UP. MAYBE A 6 FT SCULPTURE 2 FT BY 2 FT. USING THE DESIGNS FROM THE ARTIFACTS. AND CREATING SCULPTURE. FROM THE ARTIFACTS AS WELL AS THE FLINT PIECES AND PIECES OF ARROWHEADS AND STUFF. BE ON ONE SIDE. AND BE LIKE. TWO PIECES, BUT THEY BE SIMILAR, YOU KNOW? SHAPE BUT THE DESIGN WOULD BE DIFFERENT ON OTHER PIECE. AND TELLING THE STORY OF THE HOPEFULLY THE CATO PEOPLE AND THEIR. HABITATION IN THE AREA.
THERE'S UH, I'VE LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE WORK ON THE INTERNET POTTERIES, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL DESIGNS AND SO THAT'S THAT'S A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY TO DO A COUPLE OF PIECES LIKE THAT, UM I THINK THEY WOULD FIT IN WELL WITH YOUR COLLECTION OF PUBLIC ART. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE CATO PEOPLE ARE HONORED FOR THEIR HISTORY HERE. BEING THE FIRST CITIZENS AND UM, I WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY WITH THE WORK AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS OF WILEY AND. AND HOPEFULLY CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. UM, I HAD SOME OTHER IDEAS ABOUT PIECES. UH, WOULD INCORPORATE SHAPES OF POTTERY. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING WITH STONE AND I DID. LIKE SOME VERY LARGE BAR RELIEF. PIECES AND TULSA TOLD THE STORY OF. ROUTE 66 IN THE CITY THREE. 10 TIMES
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PIECES. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE TIME PIECES HERE. UM. THERE WAS QUITE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE RELIEF TELLING THE HISTORY OF. OF ROUTE 66 AND TULSA. BE PEOPLE FRIENDLY, TOTALLY THREE DIMENSIONAL WORK. LIKE I SAID IT COULD DO IT ON SITE. IF I WAS COMMISSIONED. THAT WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE THING I DO SO UM YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? NO I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. YES, SHE HMM. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING WALKING AROUND, UM UH, THE DIFFERENT SIDES THAT THAT'S BEEN SELECTED . I DON'T KNOW FOR ME. I GET A CERTAIN FEELING. I FEEL I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CONNECTION. THERE HAS A CERTAIN ENERGY, SO IT'S UM MHM. IT'S INTERESTING. TO THEN TO BE AWARE LIKE THERE, THERE'S AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CULTURE THAT WAS HERE. AND THEN IN A SENSE TO, UH, PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT THAT BRINGS BACK THAT AWARENESS. BUT I THINK ALSO TO I THINK FOR THE FOR THE CODDLE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE A WAY OF CREATING AH SORT OF A REEMERGENCE OR SORT OF MORE RECOGNITION OF WHO THEY ARE TAKING MORE PRIDE IN THEIR OWN CULTURE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE FOR IN IN WHATEVER I CREATE. IS THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S A SENSE OF PRIDE ABOUT WHAT THAT CULTURE WAS ALL ABOUT.UM. I GUESS WALKING AROUND THE SITES. ONE OF MY BIGGER TAKEAWAYS WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SCULPTURES AS A BODY OF WORK. AND HOW YOU GUYS KIND OF RELATE THAT TO YOUR CITY. IS IT MORE? UNIFIED THOUGHT PROCESS, OR IS IT LIKE WE'RE PICKING A SPECIFIC DESIGN TO KINDA CATER TO DIFFERENT IDEAS? THAT MAKES ANY SENSE LIKE IS THE PARK. AS FAR AS THIS PROJECT IS CONCERNED , FOCUSED ON THE CADDO PEOPLE, AND THE NEXT THING MIGHT BE FOCUSED ON THEN YOU KNOW, NATURE OR SOMETHING ELSE IN YOUR GUY'S HISTORY. AND DEPENDING ON THOSE ANSWERS. AM I TRYING TO DESIGN A PIECE THAT FITS WITH YOUR WHOLE NARRATIVE OR FITS WITHIN THIS NARRATIVE. IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE BECAUSE THE THEMES, YOU KNOW. IT'S FROM VERY REALISTIC BRONZE ALL THE WAY TO YOU KNOW? DEPICTIONS OF DISK GOLF. AND YOU KNOW, ON A MAGNUM MENTAL MONUMENTAL SCALE. AND THOSE ARE . YOU KNOW THEY ARE RELATED, BUT THEY ARE ALSO KIND OF DIFFERENT ON THE SIDES OF THE ART SPECTRUM. SO IS IT LIKE. REALISM REPRESENTATIONAL HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANYTHING THAT'S JUST LIKE PURE ABSTRACTION OR THOUGHT SO. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE VIBE, I GUESS GOING FORWARD. WITH YOUR CITY IS AND ESPECIALLY BEING NEAR THIS BUILDING, IT SEEMS SINCE THE SITES ARE LIKE ARE THEY THE FIRST? FOR I GUESS THEY'RE THE 4TH AND 3RD AND 4TH. THAT'D BE ADDED TO THE WALKING TRAILS. YES IT WILL BE THE, UH THERE'S THERE WILL BE THREE OUT THERE, SO THIS WILL BE THE 4TH AND 5TH. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE REALISM THAN ABSTRACT. BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE JUST WITH ONE ITEM THAT THE CATTLE UM INDIGENOUS TRIBES USED. IT COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF THINGS UNDER RESEARCH. WHEN YOU SAY REALISM IS THAT REPRESENTATIONAL ISM OR REALISM? IT NEEDS TO BE PRETTY REALISTIC SO THAT VIEWERS UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PIECES. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS THE HISTORY. OF THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT IT CAN HAVE IT CAN HAVE, UM. SIDE ITEMS IF YOU WILL, UM, THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE ABSTRACT, BUT THE PIECE ITSELF NEEDS TO BE REALISTIC. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO. AT THE SAME QUESTION THAT HE HAD, UM AND ALSO IS IT DOES IT
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HAVE TO BE, UM SPECIFICALLY TOOLS USED OR WE CAN WE ALSO JUST REPRESENT LIFE WAS LIKE FOR INSTANCE, WHEN THOSE TOOLS WERE BEING YOU. PHYSICAL SCULPTURES THEMSELVES. I THINK, UM, SOME OF YOUR ARTWORK KIND OF REPRESENTS THAT IT'S THE ANIMALS ARE VERY REALISTIC MOVE MOVEMENTS THERE.IT'S UM, A REALISTIC ITEM. YET YOU PUT OTHER THINGS INTO IT THAT ARE MORE CONTEMPORARY. SO YOU KIND OF HAVE A COMBINATION WITH YOUR COLORS AND, UM FIRST. ROBERT, IF I SO OBVIOUSLY, I MAINLY DO, UM FLORA AND FAUNA. UM, SUBJECTS IN THE WORK. IF I HAD TO DO A NATIVE AMERICAN.
HUNTING. YOU KNOW? THE BUFFALO BISON. HMM I HAVE IS THAT WITH THE BRIEF BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE BRIEF IT WAS, YEAH TOOLS. YEAH IT WOULDN'T. I THINK THE. THE SELECTION PANEL ON THE BORDER GOING TO LOOK OFTEN ALL THINGS THAT CAME FROM THE CAT DOES IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SOMETHING, REPRESENTATIVE POTTERY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CATTLE TRIBE. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH. YEAH. SEE KATIE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ANYMORE. ALL RIGHT. HOW WE DOING SO, UM, I SAY I'M AN ARTIST. I'M REALLY I'M A I'M, A TECHNICAL THEATER DIRECTOR TEACH STUDENTS MATTER OF FACT. UM, I GOT TWO OF MY STUDENTS HERE TODAY. WHO ONE IS AN ARTIST AND THE OTHER SURE HE DOES ANYMORE. BUT BUT HE'S BUT HE BUT ANYWAY, UM I YOU KNOW THEY'RE HERE TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, WHICH IS WHICH IS COOL. I REALLY DIDN'T EXPECT ONE OF THEM TO BE HERE. I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY REALISM, REPRESENTATIONAL. I THINK REPRESENTATIONAL OF THE TRIBE REPRESENTATIONAL OF WHO THEY ARE, UM, OF WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, AND IN THE HISTORY OF WHO WHO THEY WERE. I HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING CONNECTION WITH THE CATTLE LIKE GROWING UP. THERE WAS A MOUND NEAR MY HOUSE. IT WAS PROBABLY 30 MINUTES AWAY, THAT WE WOULD GO TO UNFILLED TRIPS WHEN I WAS A KID. UM, AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST SACRED PLACES FOR THEM IN THAT AREA, AND THEY HAVE A MUSEUM AND THEY HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OLD POTTERY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF AND IT'S STILL THERE TODAY. IT'S AN ALTO, TEXAS, WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR HOURS FROM HERE. AND SO GOING AND SEEING THAT IT'S JUST FOR ME WAS WAS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE YOU GOT TO SEE HOW THEY USED WHAT THEY HAD AVAILABLE TO THEM TO CREATE.
UM I MEAN, THEY WERE ARTISTS BEFORE WE CALLED PEOPLE ARTISTS. YOU KNOW THEY WERE DOING THINGS WITH POTTERY AND WITH WITH. WEAPONS AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, CREATING ART. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IS AT LEAST FOR ME. IS, IS THAT ARTISTIC. UM, DEPTH THAT THEY HAD THAT THEY SHOWED IN AND THAT THEY LEFT BEHIND, UM IN OUR IN OUR LAND AND HOW THEY USE THAT.
DID I ADD SOMETHING? EXCUSE ME. I MENTIONED THAT I DO A LOT OF MY WORK BY HAND WITH A HAMMER AND CHISEL. OF COURSE, I USED MACHINES FOR POLISHING AND WHATEVER BUT. THIS PIECE WHEN PROPOSING WOULD BE DONE BY HAND . EXCUSE ME USING HAMMER AND CHISEL. AND RESPECT FOR THOSE ARTISANS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM RELIEF WOULD ALL BE DONE. WITH HAMMER AND CHISEL. HAVE HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THAT TYPE OF WORK. UM YOU KNOW, WE CHOSE ALL YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE SAW SOMETHING IN EACH PIECE OF ART THAT YOU GAVE US AND WE SAW, UM YOU KNOW, WE SAW MOTION. WE SAW HAND CARVINGS. WE SAW ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WERE JUST WONDERFUL. THAT WE FELT LIKE REPRESENTS THE CAT DOES REPRESENTS WHAT WE WANT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I FEEL LIKE EACH OF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE US AND IF WE COULD CHOOSE ALL FOUR AND PUT ALL FOUR THINGS OUT THERE. WE COULD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE UNDER YOU KNOW ALL KINDS OF RESTRAINTS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE UM, I DO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GIVE US SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA LOVE AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD. FOR US TO CHOOSE. BUT I DO THINK THAT IT DOES NEED TO BE REPRESENTATIONAL AND DOES NEED TO BE I JUST REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THE WHAT THE CATTLE
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HAS MEANT WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY DID IT FROM THE TIME BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY OF THIS PART OF TEXAS AND I JUST BELIEVE THAT JUST KIND OF DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TRULY. THE OF THE IF THEY WERE TO LOOK BACK, OR THE ANCESTORS WERE TO BE ABLE TO SEE US. THEY WOULD BE LIKE, YES.THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE. YOU KNOW THAT'S WHO WE WERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE REPRESENT HOW WE WANT TO BE REPRESENTED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM UM, THIS IS REAL FAST. JUST WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE SITE THAT YOU MENTIONED THIS FOR? ALTO SO I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE SITE. I WAS. I WAS A LITTLE KID, BUT THERE'S A SITE OUT THERE. THAT IS AN INDIAN MOUND THAT HAS A LOT OF ARTIFACTS AND ARTIFACTS. AH! AND YOU KNOW, I WENT THERE WHEN I WAS A KID, AND WE WOULD GO AND JUST TORE IT AS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS. I REMEMBER AS PART OF OUR HISTORY LESSON OF OUR AREA BECAUSE IT'S EAST TEXAS. SO BUT ITS ALTO, TEXAS, AND THEY HAVE AN INDIAN. THEY STILL HAVE A MOUND THERE. UM THAT KIND OF HAS SOME OF THE STUFF AND ARTIFACTS. DO YOU KNOW THE NAME OF THE MUSEUM? I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE MUSEUM. UNFORTUNATELY PROBABLY LOOK IT UP REAL QUICK AND GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE LEAVE TONIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? DIGGS DONE IN THE AREA HERE. THE ARCHITECT ARCHAEOLOGICAL ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS FROM HERE, RIGHT? YES I BELIEVE I SENT THAT TO ALL FOUR OF YOU FROM THIS AREA. ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE TOO. IF YOU GO IN AND JUST GOOGLE IT WELL, I THINK THIS MUSEUM HAS HAS A TON OF KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THEY ARE REACHING OUT TO THEM WOULD BE GOOD PIECE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO BE WITH LOVING CARE AND ARTISTRY. ABSOLUTELY REAL RESPECT FOR THE HISTORY FOR SURE. YES, SIR.
YEAH. IT'S CALLED WHAT'S IT CALLED? GLORIA. COME. ALRIGHT. UM.
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE TO COME OUT AND VISIT. UH WIDE AWAKE. WILEY AND, UH, I'M VERY SUAREZ. I'M ON THE, UH, PARKER VISOR BOARD. I'M ALSO ON THE PARKS RECREATION BOARD AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, COUPLE YEARS AGO TO JUST SIT ON THE BOARD WHEN WE SELECTED KNOW WHAT YOU PROBABLY SAW THE MODELS THE MOSAIC WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE. SO IT'S INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED, UH AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE EVER BEEN SAID WITH JULIAN JOSEPH AND YOU'VE COVERED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I WOULD HAVE ASKED OR SAID, UH, BUT BUT I'M REALLY INTERESTED. UH BECAUSE YOU'VE YOU'VE ASKED YOU KNOW WHAT THE WAY YOU WANT TO SEE. I'M GONNA KIND OF QUOTE WHAT SOMEONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL SAID TWO YEARS AGO. THEY WANT TO. THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WHEN SOMEBODY SEES IT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO INTERPRET IT. SO AND THAT I BELIEVE CAROL TOOK YOU AROUND TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER ARTWORK THAT'S IN THE CITY. AND IN MYSELF. SOMETIMES I WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL SO I THINK FROM A LAYMAN'S PERSON ASIDE AND I'M NOT AN ARTIST, SO YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IT'S EDUCATIONAL. AND I DON'T HAVE TO SIT AND THINK ABOUT IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND. I WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS. AND UH WELL, I UNDERSTAND IS LIMITED INFORMATION ABOUT THE CATERING INDIANS. UM. IMPROBABLY WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT INDIANS IS MORE STEREOTYPED FOR MOVIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU BUT BUT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN. PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT THAT GENERAL PUBLIC CAN APPRECIATE. AND KIDS GET SOMETHING. LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT. AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND BE ABLE TO SAY, JUST AS CAROL TOOK YOU AROUND TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE ALREADY. YOU KNOW THAT THAT A YEAR OR TWO FROM NOW SOMEBODY WILL SAY, OH, LOOK, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I'M GONNA ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING THAT CAROL JUST JUST TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WILEY. I WAS, UH, WAS PLAYING GOLF WITH THE LADY. UH, MONDAY. AND SHE'S VERY ACTIVE WITH THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF FINE ARTS. AND UH, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MEETING. AND I TOLD HER ABOUT WILEY AND WHAT WE DID TWO YEARS AGO, AND SHE WAS GREATLY IMPRESSED. AND, UH, AND
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I'M YOU KNOW, BEING A KIND OF A NEW RESIDENTS. WILEY, UM AND MORE FROM HOUSTON. SO YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME HERE, I WAS GREATLY IMPRESSED. THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE CITY UH HAS FOR ITS CITIZENS, AND I THINK JUST THIS VENTURE OF PRODUCING THIS ARTWORK FOR THE FOR THE WALKING TRAIL. I THINK IT SPEAKS FOR WHAT THE CITY LIKES TO SEE. AND DO SO, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP THAT IN MIND. THE CITY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ARTS AND THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU AGAIN. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. UM AND ON SITE SCULPTING PROJECT WOULD WOULD ADDRESS ALL YOUR ALL YOUR STATEMENTS. BE AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, AND THEY BE PART OF THE HISTORY.OF THE SCULPTURE. THEY'D BE INVOLVED. AH! WELL, NOT. CARVING ALTHOUGH SOME PROJECTS I'VE DONE I'VE HAD THE KIDS PICK UP THE HAMMER AND CHISEL AND PICK UP A LITTLE. PIECE OF THE STONE SO USUALLY PEOPLE CAN WALK AWAY WITH IT CHIP OFF THE BLOCK, SO IT'S EDUCATIONAL AND THIS COMMUNITY BASED AND GOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. HI ALL MY NAME IS ESTHER. I'M VERY GLAD TO MEET YOU WERE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE. I AM AN EDUCATOR. I'VE BEEN IN EDUCATION FOR MOST OF MY LIFE, AND, UM I SEE THE WORLD THROUGH MY STUDENT'S EYES, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS PIECE IS SOMETHING THAT DRAWS IN KIDS . YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A KID RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS HE GOING TO SEE WHEN HE INTERACTS WITH THIS PIECE? YOU KNOW, HOW CAN HE INTERACT WITH IT? WHAT WHAT WILL HE WALK AWAY WITH WHEN HE'S DONE SEEING IT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST MAYBE IT'S THOSE LITTLE DETAILS THAT ARE SMALLER, LOWER TO THE GROUND KIDS, I LEVEL SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NOTICE THAT THE GROWNUPS MIGHT MISS ON FIRST PASS OR WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE IT IN STAGES. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU FIRST GLANCE, YOU SEE ONE THING, AND THEN YOU LOOK AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, NOW I NOTICED THIS, AND I NOTICED THAT, UM SO THINKING, YOU KNOW ABOUT IT THROUGH A KID'S EYES LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SEE? AND, UM I'D LIKE TO SEE IT, LIKE BE INTERACTIVE IN SOME WAY, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OR TOUCH OR, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT KIDS ARE GOING TO DO WHEN THERE'S NO GROWNUPS OUT THERE, ACTUALLY, NO CITY PARK PEOPLE TELLING THEM THAT THEY CAN'T CLIMB ON IT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT, I KNOW, BUT BUT THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING TO BE STURDY AND ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT? AND YOU KNOW, UM AND THEN WE HAVE THIS IS GREAT TEXAS SUN THAT, LIKE BLEACHES EVERYTHING AND YOU KNOW , AND SO SOMETHING THAT HOLDS UP TO THE WEATHER AND ALL THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE, SO I AM SUPER EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS COME UP WITH. THIS IS SUCH A NEAT PROCESS. UM I COME FROM A FAMILY OF ARTISTS, SO I LOVE GETTING TO SEE THIS PROCESS PLAY OUT. SO GOOD LUCK. AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE. LET'S SEE. I JUST LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO THAT. I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT'S SO INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE. THAT'S REPRESENTATION OF THE COLORADO NATIVE INDIANS. BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO PUT SOMETHING THERE. THERE'S GOING TO SPARK THE IMAGINATION. SO ESPECIALLY FROM A CHILD'S POINT OF VIEW, YOU KNOW IT SPARKS THEIR IMAGINATION. IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN INTERACT WITH. YEAH THAT'S THAT WOULD BE REALLY IDEAL. THANKS FOR LEAVING THE SONG BY THE WAY. I CAN'T MESS THIS UP. ALRIGHT SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU GUYS REALLY THE DISCUSSIONS OR THE COMBINATION OF CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT YOU GUYS. UM, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, RIGHT? SO YOU KNOW, PATRICK, YOU'RE GONNA RELATE WITH THIS QUOTE. YOU KNOW, UM MICHELANGELO SAID I CREATED VISION OF DAVID IN MY MIND, AND I SIMPLY CARVED OUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS NOT DAVID. SO TO EVERYBODY ULTIMATELY STRIVE TO CARVE OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT OF THE NATION OF KATO OKAY AND REALLY TRY TO KEEP IT TO HIS ESSENCE. AND SO IT POINTS, THE HISTORY IT HONORS OR CULTURE. UM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE. AS ARTISTS. WE HAVE
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MANY WAYS WE CAN COMMUNICATE. UM VIA OUR WORK SCULPTURE PAINTINGS BECAUSE AFTER WE'RE GONE, THAT'S ALL THAT'S GOING TO COMMUNICATE RIGHT. SO LIKEWISE, AFTER THEY WERE GONE, ALL THEY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE. IT IS SOME OF THE ARTIFACTS WE HAVE. SOME OF THE MOUNTAINS. WE CAN GO VISIT UM SO I WILL URGE YOU TO REALLY GET INTO THEIR HISTORY AND REALLY GET INTO THE CULTURE. SO THAT WHATEVER IT IS, YOU PRODUCE, MAYBE UNLIKE ANYTHING YOU'VE EVER PRODUCED, OKAY? BUT PATRICK , UM ACTUALLY WROTE NOTES ABOUT ALL YOU GUYS SO, PATRICK, I'LL START WITH YOU YOUR STONEWORK.PHENOMENAL JUST LIKE JOE SAID. WE APPRECIATE THAT. YOU CAN USE YOUR HANDS. UM, IN TODAY'S WORLD. A LOT OF ART CAN BE DIGITALLY DONE AND WITH MACHINERY, BUT YOU'RE KEPT IT PRETTY TRUE. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND I LOVE THAT YOU BROUGHT YOUR WIFE AND THEN YOU GUYS WORK TOGETHER. I MYSELF WORKED WITH MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AND ADVENTURES IN LIFE, SO THAT'S REALLY NEAT. BUT YOU HAVE A STRONG TECHNICAL SKILLS AND SCULPTING AT A STONE AND MARBLE. WHICH YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS A WOW FACTOR FOR EVERYBODY. UM AND FOR EVERYBODY, YOU GUYS PRODUCE WORK THAT WITHSTAND THE ELEMENTS, AND SOME OF THAT WEEDED OUT SOME OF THE COMPETITION TO EVEN GET TO THIS POINT. AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE WORK THAT THAT'S REALLY REFLECTIVE OF NATIONS AND PEOPLE WHICH WE REALLY SAW IN YOUR PORTFOLIO, AND WE DIDN'T GET MUCH OUTSIDE OF YOUR THE WORK THAT YOU YOU TURNED IN. WE DIDN'T GET MUCH OF YOU OTHER THAN YOUR LEILA PARAGRAPH, AND THEN SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU POSTED AND WE STAYED TRUE TO NOT LOOKING. YOU GUYS UP UNTIL AFTER WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF CHOOSING YOU GUYS. YOU KNOW, AND AFTER SEEING A LOT OF YOUR WORK, I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN IN YOU TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE CULTURE. SO THANK YOU, SIR. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT WON'T BE LIKE THE DAVID ALREADY BEEN DONE. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WILL BE A SOLID PROBABLY HAD 100 ASSISTANTS WITHOUT TEAM TO, UH WELL, NOT THAT WE KNOW OF. BUT UM ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT SINCE WE'RE GOING IN ORDER, I'LL GO IN ORDER THE WAY YOU'RE SEATED, YOSHI. IF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK IT WAS CALLED THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED, OKAY? LET ME FLIP OVER TO YOUR WORK. THANK YOU, BY THE WAY. CAROL FOR PRINTING THESE OUT. SO WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS IS IT REALLY REFLECTED STONE AND SHELL IMMEDIATELY? I THOUGHT SHELL RIGHT, AND SOME OF THE POTTERY AND CERAMICS THAT THEY USED HAD SHELL IN THEIR POTTERY, WHICH WAS REALLY AMAZING. AND ALL YOU GUYS GOT THE UM THE ARTIFACTS. THE ARCHAEOLOGY REPORT THAT SHE SENT OUT AND YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I LOVE THAT THIS PHILOSOPHER'S STONE IMMEDIATELY STOOD OUT ABOVE AND BEYOND ALL THE OTHER WORK YOU PRODUCED, OR AT LEAST YOU YOU'VE TURNED IN.
UM I LIKE THAT IS ALMOST BUILT INTO ITS ELEMENTS ALMOST LIKE IT'S RIGHT. COMING RIGHT OUT OF THE ELEMENTS SURROUNDING IT WERE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT IT WAS A VERY IT WAS CAPTIVATING AND IT WAS SUBTLE AND, UM, TO HAVE THAT WOULD BE. IT WOULD REALLY BE A TREASURE FOR WILEY TO HAVE SOMETHING AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE TRAIL AS YOU'RE WALKING BY, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE YOUR HEADPHONES ON WHO KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO, BUT HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT PUTS IN HIS OWN BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD CAPTIVATE YOU SUDDENLY WALKING BY WHETHER YOU'VE WALKED IT FOR THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME OR MAYBE THIS IS YOUR 100TH TIME. BUT FINALLY, THAT'S LITTLE T JUST KEEP STANDING OUT AND CALLS TO YOU SO AND THEN ALSO, YOU HAVE YOU INCORPORATED WATER IN YOUR WORK. UM WE LOVE THAT AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THE WATER IN IT SEEMED LIKE A BENCH. BUT IT'S A FOUNTAIN, YOU KNOW, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO REALLY BRINGING THE ELEMENTS IN AGAIN AS IF IT WAS PART OF ITS ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU BROUGHT THAT IN AND WE LOVE THAT. IT'S GOT SOMETHING WE CAN EVEN INTERACT WITH OUR HEARING THE FOUNTAIN. THAT WOULD BE COOL, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD WATER, OKAY? BUT WE LOVE THAT ABOUT YOU. OKAY SO TO THAT, I'LL SAY WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PRODUCE. AND THEN I HAVE ERIC. ERIC, YOU KNOW. YOU TOO YOU HAD YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT REALLY CAPTIVATED US AS WELL. AND I GOT TO SAY I DON'T HAVE A WORD FOR IT. BUT SOMEWHERE SOMEBODY SAID SPLASH PAD, BUT IT WASN'T A FOUNTAIN. HMM I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT PIECE OF WORK? IT'S A FOUNTAIN, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE THE WATER SPLASHING OUT.
YES SPLASH. OKAY THERE YOU GO. IT'S SIMPLE. UM. WHAT WE REALLY LOVED BY YOUR WORK. IT'S YOU'VE GOT GEOMETRICS DOWN LIKE LIKE NO OTHER ABOVE FROM THE COMPETITION THAT WAS VERY GEOMETRIC. FOCUSED UH, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE IN SOMETHING. UM AND AGAIN JUST LIKE YOSHI AS WELL AS YOU HAD WATER THE ELEMENT OF SOMETHING MOVING, BUT ALSO THEY CAN INTERACT WITH MORE THAN JUST VISUAL SENSES. BUT SOMETHING THAT ALMOST IT'S YOUR SPLASH ITSELF WAS INTERACTIVE WITH A
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MOMENT OF SPLASH WITH ACTIVE SPLASH, WHICH, YOU KNOW. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU KEPT THE MOMENT GOING, BUT YOU FOR YOU KEPT YOUR PAST THE MOMENT FOR SOMEBODY FOR THE VIEWER. YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE GONNA BE SEEING THIS FOUNTAIN. BUT LET ME JUST CAPTURE SOME OF IT. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SEE THINGS AND WE'RE LIKE, WOW, I WISH I COULD HAVE JUST PAUSED THAT MOMENT.WELL THAT ONE REALLY CAPTIVATED US IN THAT WAY, AND A LOT OF YOUR OTHER WORK IS YOU KNOW YOUR METAL WORK, YOU KNOW YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSITION OF ELEMENTS AND ALSO THE MATERIALS YOU'VE USED I THINK YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB TRANSITION IN THE METAL WORK BECAUSE THAT'S NO EASY FEAT AND SOME OF THE WORK YOU DID, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ABSTRACT WE COULD STILL TELLS, YOU KNOW OBJECTS FROM WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR. SO REALLY, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT REALISM AND ABSTRACT YOU KNOW REALISM. YOU CAN BRING THAT WORLD TO REALISM AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO CHALLENGE IS BRING REALISM BUT FEEL FREE TO STILL HAVE YOUR FINGERPRINTS OF ABSTRACT IN IT, YOU KNOW, BUT MAKE SURE THAT THAT REALISM REALLY CAUSED TO THE NATION AND REALLY REFLECTS THE CULTURE. SO TO THAT, I'LL JUST SAY WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT YOU CAN PRODUCE AND STRETCH YOU OUT OF YOUR TYPICAL NORM. ALRIGHT, SONY. IS THIS SONY OR SONY? OKAY, SONNY, LIKE SUNNY, SUNNY DAY, ALL RIGHT, SO TO YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ON YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, BEGINNING IN THE MEETING, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND REALLY, WHAT STANDS OUT IS NOT ONLY A REALISM AND BUT YOU'RE ALSO YOUR RHYTHM. YOU HAVE VISUAL RHYTHM, AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT. UM AND I WILL SAY I LOOKED YOU UP LEAVING THAT MEETING AFTER WE SELECTED YOU GUYS AND THANK YOU FOR NOT, YOU KNOW, POSTING IN SOME OF YOUR POOR, YOUR MURALS. NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT GREAT, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE POSTING MURAL WORK. FOR A SCULPTURE ORIENTED PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AND AFTER LOOKING YOU UP, I SAID, MAN, I REALLY APPRECIATED HIM. NOT DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE VENTURING INTO SCULPTING WITH THE PAST FEW YEARS. IT'S NOT REALLY THE MAJORITY OF YOUR LIFE'S WORK. UM SO IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE TO YOU. AND I WELCOME YOU TO REALLY CHALLENGE YOURSELF. UM, WE REALLY LOVE THAT YOU GOT ANIMALS DONE, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THE ANIMALS OF THIS AREA OF THE CULTURE AND HOW THEY INTERACTED WITH WILDLIFE TO YOU COULD TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION . WE LOVE THE BEAR WORK. WE LOVE THE TIGER WORK. UM WHAT REALLY STOOD OUT IS THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO TAKE REALISM AND MODERN MODERNIZE IT AND IN A VERY CAPTIVATING WAY, ESPECIALLY WITH BRONZE WORK. THAT'S NOT EASY EITHER. YOU KNOW, AND UM. YOUR ABILITY TO TAKE A SCULPTURE, DROP IT INTO AN ENVIRONMENT AND KEEP MOTION AND THE VIEWER'S EYES. YOU JUST PHENOMENAL.
YOU'RE REALLY ABLE TO DO THAT WITH YOUR WORK, WHICH REALLY STOOD OUT TO SOME OF US, AND THAT WAS REALLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS WOW. HE HAS MOTION IN HIS WORK, YOU KNOW, IN THE TIGER AND THE BEAR, IT KEEPS THE VIEWER MOVING THEIR EYES RATHER THAN JUST SEEING SOMETHING, SAYING. YEAH, THAT'S COOL. YOU KNOW, IT JUST KEPT US REALLY VISUALLY CAPTIVATED AND MOVING AROUND YOUR WORK AND THE MODERN TWIST. I MEAN, FEEL FREE TO KEEP YOUR THUMB PRINT. YOUR FINGERPRINT RIGHT IS AS IN EVERY ARTIST HAS THAT AND SO WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU DEVIATE COMPLETELY.
BUT WE JUST ASK YOU TO RESPECT THE CULTURE BUT ALSO DON'T FORGET YOURSELF IN IT, TOO.
COOL. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS. SO IN THE END, JUST KEEP THAT QUOTE IN MIND FOR MICHELANGELO AND CARVE OUT EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT OF THE NATION OF QAEDA. OKAY? SO THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, JOSH. THAT WAS VERY GOOD. LINDA, DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT? NO. OKAY? UM ANITA.
HI I'M ANITA JONES. WELCOME I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ART BOARD HERE IN WYLIE. I HAVE BEEN FOR THIS IS WHAT MY SEVENTH YEAR UM AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. UM WE ARE VERY IMPRESSED WITH EVERYBODY'S WORK. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN. I WAS NOT ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE. HOWEVER I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I COULD ADD, ESPECIALLY AFTER JOSH BECAUSE I THINK HE'S PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING. BUT UM, WHAT I HAVE IN MY MIND? IS UM, A FUSION FUSION OF HISTORY OF FUSION OF, UM. WHAT THE CATTO TRIBE WAS. AND THEIR ART, WHICH THEY ARE SO WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR POTTERY. UM BUT ALSO THEIR FIERCENESS THEIR WARRIORS. UM THEY LOST THEIR LAND YOU KNOW, TO EVOKE FEELING,
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UM I LOVE MOTION. UM I LOVE AND INTERACT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INTERACTIVE WITH CHILDREN. EVIL QUESTIONS. UM. YOU KNOW? HEY MOM, YOU KNOW WHAT. WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW, TELL ME ABOUT THEIR WARS. TELL ME ABOUT THEIR ART. UM TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK TO MAKE CHILDREN THINK, UM AND I LIKE MODERN, BUT I ALSO DO LIKE REALISTIC SO THAT'S ANOTHER FUSION AREA FOR ME IS UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE. WITH BUT YET INTERPRETIVE. IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEBODY LOOKS AT IT AND THEY UNDERSTAND IT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GUESS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT'S EASY FOR THEM TO SEE. AH, AND IN THE PIECE WHAT IT'S REPRESENTING. AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT. THANK YOU ALL. BOBBY. BEFORE I ALWAYS FIRST. SO IN HONOR OF THAT, I'M GONNA LET SONNY ANSWER THIS QUESTION FIRST, AND WE'LL GO THIS WAY. UM I GUESS MINE'S I'M BOBBY HEATH. I'M A DOWNTOWN MERCHANT. BUT OF COURSE I'M AROUND HERE QUITE A BIT. AND I'VE GOT TWO YOUNG KIDS AS WELL. AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MAYBE MORE PHILOSOPHICAL. UM ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO REALLY LIKE. IT WAS THE WAY YOUR ART PIECES UM IT WITH THE SURROUNDINGS. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU . HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT BALANCE OF DRAWING SOMEBODY'S EYE. UM, WHEN THEY'RE WALKING BY AND THEY WANT TO STOP AND LOOK AND SEE IT AND KNOCK IT TIRED OF THE ART PIECE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME NOT BE SO. BOLD AND BRIGHT THAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THERE IS TO ENJOY. THANK YOU. SIT DOWN. THANK YOU.YES, WELL SERVICE CENTER. UM. YEAH I MEAN, I WAS I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE SETTING BEING IN NATURE. SO FOR ME, IT'S THE SETTING IS PERFECT. UM. I MEAN TO ANSWER.
YEAH TO ANSWER. I GUESS ALL THE QUESTIONS OR YEAH, SO THE IDEA IS LIKE, UM. I PLAY WITH REALISM AND ABSTRACT IN ALL MY WORK. IT'S UH I PLAY WITH OPPOSITES AND IDEA WITH OPPOSITES. UH, IN MY WORK IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT LIFE BASICALLY. BECAUSE NOTHING IS PERFECT AND ALSO, YEAH. WE LIVE IN THIS CONSTANT STATE OF THINGS BEING GOING WELL AND GOING BAD AND GOING WILD AND GOING BAD. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM THEY TRY AND THEY TRY AND MAKE THE WORLD JUST PERFECT AND I LEARNED VERY QUICKLY IN MY WORK TO NOT ALWAYS SEEK THAT 100% REALISM. UM AND I NEEDED THERE WAS A PART OF ME THAT WANTED TO LET LOOSE AND EXPRESS AND THAT WAS YOU KNOW WHAT I DID VERY EARLY ON AND I REALIZED THAT MIRRORED MY LIFE. AND MIRRORED THE WORLD AND I FUSED THE TWO. SO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BAD TIMES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE GOOD TIMES, FOR INSTANCE, AND IN THE WORK, THE ABSTRACT AND THEN THOSE BAD TIMES. YOU ALSO HAVE TO FINALLY BEAUTY OR NOT, AND, UM THAT IS WHAT THE ABSTRACT PART OF MY WORK IS AND THE BEAUTY AND THE ABSTRACT. SOMETIMES I DO MURALS, FOR INSTANCE, AND I DO YOU KNOW A BEAUTIFUL, REALISTIC TIGER, AND THEN IT BREAKS AWAY INTO A LOT OF SPLATTERS AND, YOU KNOW WHATEVER IT'S YOU KNOW, EXPLODES INTO A FORMS INTO AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S BEEN DESTROYED AND IT OPENS UP A CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE. UM AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I EXPLAIN WHY I DO IT AND THE PURPOSE IS TO SEE THE BEAUTY AND IN THAT CHAOS AND IN FINDING THAT BEAUTY IN THE CHAOS. YOU UM YOU SEE THE REALISM AND THE PERFECTION THAT MUCH BETTER. UM AND IN DOING
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THAT, I'M ABLE TO CREATE MOTION AND A STORY AND VARIOUS THINGS AND. WITH THE BRONZE WHEN I WHEN I MOVED INTO SCULPTURE, I WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING. AND I LIKE TO MIX THE OLD AND THE NEW TEARS IN MY SCULPTURES, AS YOU'VE SEEN. I'VE GONE TRADITIONAL BRANDS WITH THE REALISM, BUT I'VE ALSO INCLUDED COLOR WHICH MY FOUNDRY TOLD ME NEVER TO DO, AND PEOPLE THINK I'M CRAZY, BUT THAT'S WHAT MAKES MY WORK UNIQUE. THAT IT'S NEITHER TRADITIONAL NOR MODERN, AND IT'S FITS. IF IT'S VERY, UM. I LIKE TO THINK IT FITS VERY BEAUTIFULLY IN BETWEEN, UM, WHICH I LIKE ALL MY WORK TO NOT BE STATIC AND TO BE MOVING AND TO BE FLOORING AND TO NOT BE ANYONE'S SIDE OF ANYTHING. SO IT'S UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION HERE, BUT I THINK THAT IT DOES ALLOW MY WORK TO BE IN THE CITY CENTER TO BE IN A FORMAL GALLERY TO BE IN A GRANDEE STREETS AND TO BE IN NATURE TO BE IN VARIOUS PLACES BECAUSE OF THE AESTHETIC THAT, UH, BY DO SO. YEAH. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH. UM. THAT WAS A LARGE QUESTION, SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER IT. YEAH. UM, I DO FEEL LIKE IN THAT REGARD, LIKE THIS BUILDING IS HONESTLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF KIND OF BLEND HYBRID OF VERY TRADITIONAL, WITH ELEMENT OF VERY MODERN AND USUALLY I APPROACH MY WORK WITH THE HIGH LEVEL OF CRAFTSMANSHIP, TRYING TO FOCUS ON EVERY LITTLE DETAIL THAT ANYONE COULD INTERACT WITH. AND A LOT OF THE. MY PIECES THAT I LIKE THE MOST STEM FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IS GOING TO BRING THE AUDIENCE AND SPECIFICALLY LIKE THE TOP PIECE ON THE PAGE IS A FUNCTIONAL KALEIDOSCOPE. INSIDE OF THE PIECE, SO IT'S. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ONLY GONNA NOTICE IF YOU GO UP AND LOOK AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TRYING TO HIDE THAT IT HAS THIS THING LIKE IT'S VERY OBVIOUSLY A TURNSTILE AND AN EYE HOLE. SO IT'S YOU CAN WALK BY IT EVERY DAY, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS VERY FINELY CRAFTED THINGS LIKE FINALLY MADE PIECE OF FURNITURE, BUT YOU ALSO GET THIS EXTRA ELEMENT. AND A LOT OF THINGS I'VE BEEN DOING. LATELY INVOKE THAT SAME CONCEPT OF LIKE, HOW CAN I DRAW THE VIEWER IN MORE SO THAN JUST THE ART PIECES SELF LIKE. HOW CAN I MAKE YOU KNOW THAT LANTERN? A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO LOOK AT. SO THAT'S ONE ELEMENT. HOW LIKE KIND OF THREAD THE NEEDLE THROUGH EVERYTHING I DO. AND HOW I WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE APPROACH THE WORK. WAS THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION.KIND OF PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION, I GUESS IS HOW DO YOU ENGAGE PEOPLE AND DRAW PEOPLE'S I N UM TO YOUR WORK AND SOMETHING THAT AGAIN IS ENGAGING AND THAT PEOPLE ENJOY SEEING ON A DAILY OR WEEKLY OR MONTHLY BASIS AT THE SAME TIME, DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER ELEMENTS AROUND IT.
YOU KNOW IF I'M IF I'M THERE TO ENJOY NATURE, I'M SEEING THIS THING THAT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T NATURAL, RIGHT? HOW DO I COMBINE THAT WITH UM AGAIN. WHAT'S SURROUNDING YOUR PIECE? THAT'S GOOD. YEAH I TOTALLY JUST BELIEVE LIKE THAT'S WHY IT'S ACTUALLY IMPORTANT TO SEE THE SITE IS SO THAT, UH. THE SCULPTURE IS INTEGRATED INTO THE SITE. YOU KNOW, IT'S AH. BUT I THINK PRIMARILY THE PROCESS STARTS OFF LIKE LIKE GETTING SORT OF A CONCEPT GETTING, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO WORK THROUGH. AND GET TO THE POINT WHERE I HAVE A CLEAR CONCEPT OF WHAT WHEN I'M GOING FOR SO BUT FOR ME, SORT OF UNDERLYING EVERYTHING, THOUGH, IS, UH, PUTTING A SPIRITUAL SPIRITUAL ESSENCE INTO THE INTO THE PIECE. I THINK IT'S SORT OF LIKE AN ARTIST'S ENDOWS THE OBJECT THAT THEY CREATE. AND SO THAT THAT COMMUNICATES EVEN THOUGH IT'S IT
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CAN BE A VERY SUBTLE THING. SO, UM. BUT IT'S INTERESTING. UH. IT'S IT'S THAT IT'S A PROCESS OF GETTING CLEAR ON YOUR CONCEPT. WHAT, BUT IT'S ALSO TO ONE OF IT'S UH, REACHING A POINT WHERE IT EXCITE YOU. I THINK THAT'S THE STARTING POINT. IF IT DOESN'T EXCITE YOU AS AN ARTIST.OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT GONNA COMMUNICATE TO WHOEVER PERCEIVES IT. SO I SAID, I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION TO COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S SUCCESSFUL. YOU GOTTA WAKE UP. UM. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR VERY ENGAGING QUESTIONS ARE QUITE HELPFUL AND DEVELOPING A FINAL PROPOSAL ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN A AND THIS PUBLIC ART PROJECT. UM MY CAREER GOES BACK OVER 40 YEARS, UM I HAVE TWO STONE SCULPTURE PARKS AND CANADA. AH! KILL THEM. BRITISH COLUMBIA 14 PIECE SCULPTURE GARDEN TOOK TWO YEARS. TO MAKE WAS SIX PEOPLE WORKING, AND I HAD I WAS A MANAGER SCULPTOR. AND IT'S STILL THERE. 36 YEARS LATER, PEOPLE STILL LOVE IT. THEY CAN TOUCH THE PIECES. THERE'S A HISTORY THERE. SO MY GOAL. WHEN I FIRST STARTED TO MAKE PUBLIC ART THIS TO BRING THE POWER OF THE STONE OF THE PEOPLE AS A HEALING. PROCESS AS WELL AS AN INTELLECTUAL. PROCESS. WHERE PEOPLE CAN FIND A REFUGE FROM ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD. WHY GETTING INVOLVED IN THE SCULPTURE. SO I TRY TO PRESENT A POSITIVE. UH APPROACH WITH MY WORK. UH USING THREE DIMENSIONAL. OBJECT THAT I WAS TRAINED. TO DO LIKE THREE DIMENSIONAL SCULPTURES. SO PEOPLE CAN WALK AROUND THE PEACE AND ENJOY IT FROM EVERY ANGLE. AND, UH, THEY STAY INTERESTED IN THE PEACE AND THEY WANT TO COME BACK. UM ENGAGE AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING NEW AND REFRESHING AND THEY CAN TOUCH THE STONE. AND FEEL THE POWER. THAT'S MY GOAL, AND I'VE STUCK WITH IT FOR OVER 40 YEARS NOW. AND I'M STILL PURSUING THAT. THE GOAL HERE AND WILEY AND I MOST OF MY WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND PARK SETTINGS ACTUALLY OVER MY CAREER AND I LOVE THE SITES HERE. I LOVE THE PARK. I LOVE THE THEME. LICATO PEOPLE. AND, UM. I FEEL MY WORK WILL BE SUBTLE TO APPROACH AND THEN IT SORT OF GRABS. YOU AND IT'S PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT. SO. I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN AND IMPORTANT PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE AUDIENCE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GREAT THAT , PATRICK ACKNOWLEDGE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL ACTUALLY, TO JUST JUST SORT OF GET ANCHORED HERE AND WILEY AND GETTING GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT'S HERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. DOES THE SCALE. THERE'S ANY INPUT ABOUT HOW BIG YOU WANT THE PEACE TO BEARERS OF MATTER. REALLY GOOD, LIKE LIKE DAVID DAVID BIG. YEAH. GOOD THINGS COME IN SMALL SIZES, TOO. UM I KNOW I THINK ALL OF US HAVE EXPRESSED, UM I GUESS THE QUESTION OF IF WE NEEDED AN ENGINEER THAT'S FROM TEXAS. IS THAT A RESOURCE THAT LIKE. DOES
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THE COMMUNITY KNOW ANYONE THAT WE COULD REACH OUT TO OR ARE WE JUST SEARCHING THE INTERNET LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE? I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN UM I WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH THE ARTISTS THAT'S DOING OUR FIRST ENTRY PIECE BACK HERE. SHE IS FROM HOUSTON. SHE USES THE SAME ENGINEER. I CAN SEND YOU THAT REFERENCE AND A FEW ENGINEERS THAT THE CITY OF BUT WE MAKE NO CLAIM. TO ANY OF THEM AS FAR AS RESPONSIBILITY OR COST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND I'LL EMAIL THOSE TO YOU. UM DO YOU ALL WANT CONTRACTORS HERE TOO? FOR A BASE BUILD. YEAH. YEAH, OKAY, WILL DO.I THINK THAT SHE MAKES A GREAT POINT. I WAS JUST KIND OF GIVEN A COMMENT. IT DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO BE A WALK UP, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON SOME OF YOUR WORK WAS WE WONDERED WHERE YOU WERE GETTING ENGINEERING WHERE YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, WATER RESOURCES, ELECTRICAL RESOURCES . UM SOME WORK HAD LIGHTING. UM NOT SURE. UH THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NEW YORK? NOT SURE. MAYBE MAYBE NOT. IT, WASN'T YOU. OR THERE WAS LIGHTING INVOLVED, UM , WE HAD ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXTERNAL LIGHTING OR WITHIN LIGHTING WITHIN THE PRODUCT OR THE PIECE OF WORK. SO ANYWAYS, SHE'S THE GAL. SHE'S THE PLUG IF YOU NEED ENGINEERING, SHE'S YOUR GAL. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. I THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. AND WE'LL BE BACK SEPTEMBER 21ST I BELIEVE TO SEE THESE LOVELY PROPOSALS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.