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[Public Arts Advisory Board on July 20, 2023.]

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ALL LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE WIDELY PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING FOR JULY 20TH. TIME IS NOW 603. AH! LOOKING FOR ANY ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD. UM OR THE PUBLIC.

PRESENT TO ADDRESS ANY ISSUES. I DON'T SEE ANY SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM ONE. UH DISCUSSION REGARDING THE OVERVIEW OF MAYBE HAVE ROLES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ANITA.

PRESIDENT. CASSIE. PRESIDENT. ESTHER PRESENT. STEVE PRESIDENT JOHN HERE. GLORIA. JOSEPH. HERE WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM. VERY NICE NOW. SINCE I WAS JUMPING THE GUN. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THIS GUSH IN ITEM ONE REGARDING THE OVERVIEW OF THE RECENT BLUEGRASS ON BALLOT EVENT. ALSO TO DISCUSS ANY CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR AND REVIEW PROFIT FROM THIS EVENT. OKAY UM, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT. UM AT THE BLUE GRASS. IT WAS VERY, VERY HOT. BUT IT WAS. IT WAS A GOOD EVENT. I DID HEAR SOME GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT FROM THE VENDORS. A FEW DID SAY IT WAS VERY HOT, AND THEY'D LIKE TO SEE A CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT TIME OF YEAR. BUT THAT'S KIND OF A DECISION THAT THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS HAVE TO MAKE. WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION ON OUR OWN. UM SO I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL CHANGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO HAVE THE DANCES LONG AGO. UM, IN JULY AS WELL. SO IT'S KIND OF A TRADITION. YEAH. WHAT'S IT NICE.

YEAH. RIGHT RIGHT, RIGHT. CAMERAS. OH, MY GOSH, I'M SO SORRY. I MEANT TO PUT THIS ON.

OKAY. AIRPLANE MODE. OKAY SO I WENT ONLINE TO SEE IF THE SURVEY HAD GONE OUT BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO OUT LIKE THREE DAYS AFTER THE EVENT. UM BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE SYSTEM.

SO I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE GAL IN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE THAT TAKES CARE OF LASER FISH, AND ONCE I GET IT, I'LL MAIL IT OUT TO YOU. AND THEN AFTER REVIEWING IT, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA AS WELL, TO TALK ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC THINGS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. JUST LET ME KNOW. THE REVENUE THAT WE MADE CRAFT VENDORS. UM TOTALED $13,360. AND FOOD VENDORS WERE 4000 TO 25, BRINGING A TOTAL OF $17,585. FOR THE EVENT. IT HAS GONE UP A BIT EVERY YEAR SINCE WE STARTED DOING IT, SO I MEAN, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SIGN. AND THEN ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, AS FAR AS THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE. DIFFERENT OR THINGS THAT YOU LIKED ABOUT THE EVENT. UM I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT IT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY FELT LIKE IT WENT VERY SMOOTHLY THAT WELL, AT WHAT POINT WILL WE HEAR? HOW WOULD WE BROACH THE CONVERSATION WITH THE MERCHANTS ABOUT MOVING THE EVENT TO LATER POINT IN THE YEAR? UM SINCE CRAIG IS THE LIAISON FOR THEM, I'M GOING TO LET HIM KIND OF DO THAT. UM BECAUSE WE'RE JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING, BUT HE HE, ACTUALLY, UM FACILITATES THE EVENT TO A BIG DEGREE, SO I THINK IT'S COMING FROM HIM. IT WOULD BE GOOD. UM I KNOW THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OR TWO.

INSTANCES WHERE I HEARD BENDERS. COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY HOPED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME EXACT BOOTH LOCATION THAT THEY HAD LAST YEAR. AND I DON'T SEE ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION THAT GOES ON TO THE VENDORS. BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO SOMEHOW PRESENT MORE CLARITY THAT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC BOOTH THAT THEY WANT, THEY NEED TO LET THEY NEED TO LET YOU KNOW. EARLY REALLY EARLY ON, BECAUSE ONCE WE GET TOO DEEP IN THE PROCESS, IT'S TOO. IT'S TOO LATE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PLACE ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF FOR COMMENTS. AND IF THEY WANT A SPECIFIC BOOTH, THEY NEED TO PUT THAT IN THOSE COMMENTS WHEN THEY START SENDING EMAILS. I GET SO MANY EMAILS THAT I CAN'T KEEP

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TRACK OF THEM. AS FAR AS CHANGING THAT KIND OF THING. IT NEEDS TO BE ON THEIR APPLICATIONS. SO WHEN I AM PUT THEIR APPLICATION ONTO THE SPREADSHEET, IT'S THERE. ON THE APPLICATION, INDICATING THAT IF THEY PREFER THE SAME BOOTH LOCATION IS LAST YEAR, THEY NEED TO PUT IT ON THE APPLICATION. YES AND, UM THERE'S NO GUARANTEE FOR THAT, EITHER. UM WE TRY OUR BEST TO PUT THEM IN THE SAME SPOTS THAT THEY WERE ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT I KNOW WAS NOT HAPPY. UM IF YOU'RE IN THE IN THE PAVILION AND YOU'RE LOOKING OUT WHERE ALL THOSE NICE TREES ARE FOR SHADE. LAST YEAR, HE WAS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE TREES. THIS TIME HE WAS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE TREES. I MEAN, SO I MEAN, WE TRY. WE TRY AND ALSO, UM, THE SPONSORS WHO ARE PAYING ANYWHERE FROM $5000 TO 500 TO HAVE A BOOTH OUT THERE. GET SPECIAL PREFERENCE.

SO IF IT'S A CORNER BOOTH THAT CRAIG WANTS FOR ONE OF THE, UM SPONSORS, THEN WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW AND SAY, OKAY, I ALSO THINK TO THE PRIORITY WOULD GO TO NOT CLUMPING VENDORS TOGETHER LIKE IF YOU HAVE THREE OR FOUR OF THE SAME TRYING TO MAKE SURE SO.

YEAH. IT'S YEAH, THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT AS FAR AS MOVING THE EVENT. I MEAN, IT'S WORTH A CONVERSATION. BUT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT THERE, THEY TRIED THAT, OR THEY TRIED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION BEFORE. BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH WORRYING ABOUT BETWEEN WORRYING ABOUT INCLEMENT WEATHER AND GETTING TOO CLOSE TO OTHER FESTIVALS OR SOMETHING THAT JUST KIND OF I DON'T I THINK WE MAY BE WHISTLING IN THE WIND. I DON'T KNOW. WELL I THINK THERE WERE MORE COMPLAINTS THIS YEAR ABOUT THE HEAT BECAUSE IT IS GETTING HOTTER. YEAH, YEAH. MHM SO, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IF NOT, WE'LL JUST CONTINUE LIKE WE ARE AND THAT'S FINE, TOO. BUT DOES THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION GET THE SAME, THEY WOULDN'T GET THE SAME KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GET RIGHT FROM BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH THE VENDORS. SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO KNOW WHAT THAT FEEDBACK IS. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE IT. I'M ASSUMING YES, AND I DID TALK TO ONE OF THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS ABOUT IT , UM, THAT WE DID HAVE SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HEAT. AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN HOW FAR THAT WILL GO OR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW CRAIG WAS GOING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. IF I'M RIGHT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, DON'T WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WHERE WE TELL THE VENDORS? THEY CAN'T LEAVE EARLY , RIGHT? THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY FOR THE SHOW. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE SHOW. AND WE HAVE THAT IN THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT WE SEND OUT, BUT WHEN IT'S AS HOT AS IT WAS. I'M NOT GOING TO TELL SOMEBODY THEY HAVE TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE SHOW. THEY CAN'T PULL THEIR CARS IN BECAUSE THAT'S A SECURITY RISK, YOU KNOW, AND I COULD GET SOMEONE HURT, BUT THEY CAN'T CARRY THEIR ITEMS OUT AND GO GET THEIR CAR. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS ABOUT THE ONLY THING I WAS WONDERING IS, YOU KNOW, COULD WE PUT IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF A COMPROMISE TO BE HAD, IF THE TEMPERATURE EXCEEDS 100 DEGREES OR WHATEVER. THEN THEY CAN LEAVE , BUT THEY CAN'T YOU CAN'T COME. YOU CAN'T PULL IN AND HAUL YOUR STUFF. UH, FOUND OUT DURING THE DAY. WE CAN'T REALLY GUARANTEE THE RCT KIDS EITHER, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE GET SICK FROM THE HEAT. USUALLY IT'S OLDER FOLKS. UM THAT CAN'T TOLERATE THE HEAT LIKE THEY DID WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER LIKE ME. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WEEK. WE REALLY NEED TO PUT IT IN THE INSTRUCTIONS BECAUSE THEN IT GIVES SOME KIND OF AN INVITATION TO LEAVE. BUT RATHER JUST WE I GIVE HIM MY CELL PHONE NUMBER, SO IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES THEY CAN CALL ME AND I'M THERE ALL DAY. AND IF THEY CALL AND SAY I'M HOT, I DON'T WANT TO STAY ANY LONGER. I'M FEELING KIND OF SICK. GO. YOU KNOW? AND THEN I TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR STUFF OUT. YOU KNOW, MANUALLY, THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR VEHICLE. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM WHAT'S THE CROWD LOOK LIKE AT THAT POINT LATER IN THE DAY WHEN IT'S GETTING THAT HOT LIKE IS IT? STILL CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IS THERE WOULD THERE BE ANY WISDOM IF IT'S BEING IF IT'S SO HOT, LIKE MAYBE SHUTTING DOWN SOONER OR WELL, THE PROBLEM WAS TRYING. EVERYBODY DOWN SOONER IS YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY START UNLOADING AND ALL THOSE CARS COME IN. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO KEEP YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT PEDESTRIANS COMING IN TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC ALL EVENING, AND SO THEY'RE WALKING IN THE ROADWAY,

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AND ALL THESE VENDORS ARE COMING IN AND GETTING ALL OF THEIR STUFF AND LEAVING. IT'S JUST UM , IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION TO HAVE THEM ALL LEAVE EARLY, BUT, UM, AND SOME OF THEM MAY BE SELLING AND DON'T WANT TO LEAVE , YOU KNOW, SO IT'S A SHORT, REALLY. IT'S A SHORT, UM, TIMEFRAME FOR 10 10 TO 9 BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY LEAVING BY 88 OR 8 30. UM. EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT BEING AN OFFICIAL MEMBER, I GUESS THIS THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OF HELPED YOU GUYS SHE HELPS ALL THE TIME. AH. CAN HAVE YOU TRIED HAVING WALKIE TALKIES AVAILABLE FOR LIKE THE CLEANUP CREW. I KNOW SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT THE WOMAN'S RESTROOM WOULD RUN OUT OF PAPER. WELL, IT COULDN'T FIND CRAIG AND SOMEWHERE THERE ARE FINALLY FOUND HIM AND HE WAS TALKING TO THE MAYOR OF SOMEBODY, AND HE SAID, OKAY. I KNOW HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT I THAT I DID SEE ONE OF THE GROUNDS. ONE OF THE CITY, UH, PARTS OF PEOPLE. AND THEN HE STOPPED RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND HE WENT AND TOOK CARE OF IT. BUT IT WAS QUITE A LONG WALL, PROBABLY OVER HALF AN HOUR BEFORE ANYBODY NOTICED IT. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU TRY AND WALKIE TALKIES BEFORE OR WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WALKIE TALKIES TOO WELL KNOWN MARKS PEOPLE. I MEAN, THE SUPERVISOR OF THE PARTS GROUP. UM YOU AND CRAIG AND ANYBODY ELSE WE COULD TRY THAT JUST HAVING THREE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE CAN TEXT AMONGST EACH OTHER. IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE FIXED, AND THEN WE CAN RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO THE PARKS SUPERVISOR. WHOEVER'S OUT THERE? SURE. I DON'T KNOW. UH ASSUMING THE POLICE AND THE FIRE I MEAN, WE HAD TO GET HOLD OF THEM. I'M SENDING THAT'S IN PLACE TO GET OUT OF THEM. THEY'RE DOWN THERE ALL DAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK THE WALKIES MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. CONVENIENT TOO, BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE ANY BLOCKED ON YOUR PHONE. YEAH I DON'T KNOW HOW TO UNBLOCK. YOU SENT THOSE TEXTS, PICTURES SOMETHING SOMETHING, BUT, YEAH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE I HAD TO CALL JOHN. AND LIKE JOHN, CALL CAROL. GOOD ME AND TELLING ME TO TALK TO CAROL AGAIN OR SOMEBODY SHOW ME HOW TO UNBLOCK A PERSON LAST YEAR. SO I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE DONE THE WINTER FESTIVAL, BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST SUMMER FESTIVAL AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH HOW SMOOTHLY EVERYTHING RAN AND JUST IT WAS. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT FELT LIKE IT WAS EASIER TO DO THIS ONE IN THE WINTER ONE. YOU'RE WELCOME. LIKE IT WAS JUST IT WAS LIKE YOU GUYS HAD IT DOWN. I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAD IT DOWN TO A SCIENCE. THE ONLY THING THE ONLY FEEDBACK THAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE WAS THE CONCERN FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT THEIR SPOTS WERE NOT LIKE THEY WERE EITHER NEXT TO SOMEONE WHO WAS SELLING THE SAME THING THAT THEY WERE SELLING, OR THERE WAS A COUPLE OF LADIES THAT THEY HAD WANTED TO BE TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WERE BY THEMSELVES, AND THEY WERE GOING TO WATCH EACH OTHERS AND THAT GOES BACK TO, UM , NOT SENDING EMAILS FOR PUTTING IT IN THE COMMENTS. UM AND WHEN I SEND OUT NEXT YEAR'S IN MY EMAIL. I WILL PUT IF YOU WANT. A SIMILAR BOOTH TO LAST YEAR. PLEASE PUT IT IN THE COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION. IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT IT WILL BE REVIEWED, AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO PUT IS THAT ANY COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE NEED TO BE ON THE APPLICATION OR THEY WILL NOT COMMENT SENT COMMENTS SENT BY EMAIL WILL NOT BE GIVEN THE SAME PRIORITY COMMENTS INCLUDED ON THE APPLICATION, RIGHT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. IS THERE A MAP OF WHERE ALL THE BOOTHS ARE? IS THAT SENT OUT? IS IT LIKE EXTENSIVE AND I ? YEAH, IT'S JUST SQUARES WITH NUMBERS IN THEM, AND WE HAD WHAT 100 AND 35 BOOST. MHM. SO UM, WHAT CRAIG AND JOHN DO IS THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY MARKED THE BOOTHS WITH PAINT. AND THEN THEY PUT THE NUMBER INSIDE AND SO WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT LOADING AREAS OFF OF BALLARD. UM BEHIND THAT LITTLE ALLEY ON THE ON JEFFERSON AND OAK. AND THEN JUST COMING DOWN, JACKSON. SO, UM, THEY. THEY KIND OF CORRAL THEM. JOHN WAS AT THE END AND S PEOPLE CAME IN, AND THEY WERE LINED UP. UM HE WOULD DIRECT THEM TO WHICH AREA THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TO UNLOAD. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ROTC BECOMES EACH YEAR, AND THOSE KIDS HELP THEM, UNLOAD THEIR MERCHANDISE AND SHOWS THEM THEIR BOOTHS AND ALL OF THAT, SO THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL.

I THINK WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT AFTER THE FACT THIS YEAR. I THINK WE ALSO DISCUSSED ONCE UPON A TIME WE ON THAT SAME MAP, WE PUT THE VENDORS NAMES. RIGHT WE DID NEXT WEEK, MAYBE EVEN

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ADAPTED FOR THE ARTS FESTIVAL, UM TO PUT THAT BACK INTO PLAY? YEAH IN THE ARTS FESTIVAL. UM KRISTINA KELLY, UM CRAIG'S ASSISTANT. HAS PUT IT IN ANOTHER , UM, SYSTEM. IT'S CALLED CAVA.

CANBERRA, CANBERRA. UH HUH. AND IT LOOKS GOOD. AND IF THERE'S ROOM FOR ME TO PUT THE NAMES AND EVERYTHING, SO THIS YEAR I CAN DO THAT MYSELF. WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS. WE ALL GOT TALKING ABOUT SENDING THEM A MAP OUT TO THE VENDORS AS THEY APPLY YOU TALKING BECAUSE ON THE DAY UP NOW TRYING TO CANCEL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SENDING THE MAP OUT. WHAT WHEN THEY APPLY, SO THEY CAN SAY I WANT THIS ONE THAT ONE. AH! THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T WORK REAL WELL, UM, EVEN YOU KNOW, WE USED TO GIVE THEM THEIR BOOTH NUMBER. AND THEY WOULD FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BOOTHS WERE WITH THE MAP, AND THEN I WOULD GET EMAILS. I DON'T LIKE THAT BOOTH. I WANT A DIFFERENT FOOD SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE THEM COME. THEY HAVE THEIR COLOR PLACARDS, SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GO. BUT THEN THE GUYS TELL THEM WHAT BOOTH THERE IN WHEN THEY GET THERE. YEAH. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU CAME UP WITH ON EVEN WRITING IT ON THEIR WINDSHIELD OR EVEN JUST WRITING IT ON THE CARD AND HANDED IT TO HIM. I'LL BRING EXTRA CARDS SO I CAN WRITE THE BOTH NUMBERS DOWN AND HAND IT TO HIM. THAT MIGHT BE GREAT. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD WAS INVOLVED IN AN EVENT AND THEY GOT GREASE PENCILS. AND SO WHEN PEOPLE CHECKED IN, THEY PUT THEIR BOOTH NUMBER ON IT. SO THEN, IF THEY WERE PARKED IN THE WRONG SPOT, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY JUST COME BACK AND SAY WHO'S IN THIS BOOTH, AND THEN WE CALL HIM OH, YEAH. BEEN IMPORTANT RIGHT PARTY? MHM. SPEAKING OF DO YOU REMEMBER THE VENDOR THAT COMPLAIN REALLY, REALLY BAD ABOUT THE LIGHTING ISSUE? ONE YEAR THAT HE HAD TO GO BUY NEW LIGHTING. HE HAD LITTLE PAINTINGS OF FLOWERS OR SOMETHING, AND HE DROVE THROUGH THE BARRICADES. TWICE. YEAH. TO MAKE SURE THAT HE PUT LIKE HE'S JUST NOT A GOOD PERSON, AND HE IS ALWAYS RUNNING DOWN THE ARTS BOARD. AND RUNNING DOWN THE FACILITY LIKE HE'S VERY, VERY NEGATIVE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER THE MEETING. SO NOTED. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY I WILL. I WILL CHECK ON THE WALKIE TALKIES FOR THE NEXT TIME. AND, UM AND I WILL GET AN EMAIL OUT WHEN WE SEND THE APPLICATIONS OUT THAT STATES THAT ANY INFORMATION MUST BE ON THE COMMENTS AND CAN BE EMAILED.

DIRECTLY BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T GET THE ATTENTION THAT IT WILL ON THE APPLICATION. WELL ALL RIGHT. IF THAT IS ALL FOR DISCUSSION, ITEM ONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS AN UPDATE REGARDING THE 23 24 CALL FOR ARTISTS ON THE MUNICIPAL WALKING TRAILS PROJECT IF YOU'LL LOOK IN YOUR PACKET, THE. FOUR ARTISTS THAT HAVE BEEN CHOSEN AS THE SEMIFINAL ARTISTS ARE LISTED. AND A SAMPLING OF THEIR PREVIOUS WORK. SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE TYPE OF DESIGN THAT THEY DO. SOME WORK IN MULTIPLE MEDIUMS. OTHERS ARE STONE. UM BUT THEY'RE ALL VERY GOOD ARTISTS. UM I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ALL FOUR OF THEM. AND THEY ARE SCHEDULED WITH FLIGHTS ALL BUT MR SULLIVAN. AND PATRICK SULLIVAN AND HIS WIFE WANTS TO DRIVE FROM UTAH. AND HE IS A DESCENDANT OF THE CHEROKEE TRIBES. HMM. SULLIVAN SOUNDS IRISH, BUT. DOWN THE ROAD. MOST CHEROKEES LOOK LIKE I DO SO AND I'M CHEROKEE. THAT'S AH! IT'S YEAH. WE'RE A VERY OPEN TRIBE.

QUESTION. SO I KNOW THAT THESE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW. PHOTOGRAPHS OF PRIOR WORKS THAT THESE ARTISTS HAVE DONE. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM THAT INVOLVED WATER. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESSIBLE? YES. YES. THEIR WATER AND ELECTRICITY WILL BE STUBBED TO BOTH OF THE SITES IN THE BACK. AND JUST TO BRING CASSIE UP TO, UM SPEED. UM THERE AS YOU WALK DOWN THE TRAILS

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WHERE THE ROAD SPLITS HERE. UM THIS FALL, WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL A VERY LARGE PIECE AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON IT WHEN THE MEETING SOBER AND THEN WE HAVE CHOSEN TWO MORE PIECES TO GO ON THE WALKING TRAILS AS YOU'RE GOING AROUND TO THE BACK. SO WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS HISTORY OF THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE. THE FIRST CALLING WAS JUST FOR AN OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING IN THE HISTORY. UM. OF THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE. SO IT DEPICTS A LOT OF THE NATURAL FLOWERS THAT GREW HERE. UM SOME OF THE ANIMALS AND ALSO THE CATTLE IN, UH, INTENTION IS TRIBES THAT WERE VERY PREVALENT HERE AND CAMPED HERE BECAUSE OF THE CREEK THAT RUNS BEHIND AND THEY DID AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIG BEFORE THE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT , AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THE INFORMATION FROM THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE ARTISTS WILL BE USING AS A THEME. IT COULD BE CLAY POTS THAT COULD BE ARROWHEADS. THAT COULD BE A MULTITUDE OF THINGS, BUT, UM, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL COME OUT. THEY'LL HAVE A PUBLIC INPUT MEETING WHICH I HOPE YOU ALL WILL ATTEND ON THE 10TH OF AUGUST. AND THEY'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT, UM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ART BABY. YOU KNOW AND WILL EVEN HAVE OR WERE TRYING TO, UM, INVITE DESCENDANTS OF THE CADDO TRIBES. UM ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT WE HAVE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE.

IS UM IS OVER ALL OF THE INSURANCE FOR, UM THE NATIVE AMERICANS THAT LIVE IN THE IN THE AREA IN DFW. SO UM, HE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF, UM TRIBAL NEWS AND SO HE'S GOING TO INVITE SOME OF THEM SO THAT THEY CAN KIND OF GIVE SOME AUTHENTICITY TO WHAT THE ARTISTS WILL BE COMING BACK IN PRESENTING SO THIS THESE ARE JUST SAMPLINGS OF THEIR WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. WE WON'T SEE THEIR PRESENTATIONS UNTIL THEY COME BACK. UM, IN SEPTEMBER. SO I THOUGHT THE SELECTION PANEL WHICH JOSEPH WAS A PART OF, UM DID A VERY GOOD JOB. WE HAVE 38. SUBMISSIONS AND THEY RANK THEM EACH ON THEIR OWN, NOT SAYING HOW OTHERS RANKED AND THEN WE NARROWED IT TO 17. AND THEN WE HAD A MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND NARROW THAT TO THE FOUR THAT WE SEE, AND THE REASON WE DID FOR RATHER THAN THREE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO SITES SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO EITHER. PROPOSED FOR BOTH SIDES AND THEY WILL EACH GET AN HONORARIUM OF $500. OR THEY CAN JUST PROPOSE FOR ONE SIDE AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL GET ANY SITE AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD GET BOTH SIDES BUT THEY'RE WELCOME TO APPLY FOR BOTH. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AN HONORARIUM OF $500. THE HONORARIUM IS FOR THE MARKETS THAT THEY PRESENT. SO THEY COME OUT AND THEY HAVE SMALL SAMPLINGS OF EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. I JUST DON'T EVER REMEMBER HEARING THAT TERM BEFORE. WELL CAN BE CALLED A STIPEND AND HONORARIUM. YEAH. CAME IN FROM MY CATS. CAN YOU CLARIFY? WHAT HAPPENS ON AUGUST 10TH VERSUS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN SEPTEMBER? SURE ON AUGUST 10TH THEY WILL COME. WELL, ACTUALLY, THEY'LL COME OUT ON AUGUST 9. I'LL PICK THEM UP AT THE AIRPORT. THEY'LL COME OUT AND WE'LL TAKE THEM TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SHOW THEM THE DOWN DOWNTOWN WILEY, LET HIM EAT LUNCH THERE AND THEN I WILL TAKE THEM TO ALL OF THE SITES IN THE CITY THAT HAVE PUBLIC ART SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, AND MAYBE GET SOME IDEAS AS TO MATERIALS OR WHATEVER FROM THAT. AND THEN I'LL BRING THEM OUT HERE. THEY'LL SEE THE EXISTING ART THAT'S ALREADY OUT HERE AND THEN I'LL TAKE HIM BACK TO THE SITES, AND THEY WILL SEE THE TWO SIDES THAT CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THE SITES, AND THAT GIVES THEM A BETTER IDEA OF, UM OF THE SCALE OF WHAT THAT ACTUAL SITE NEEDS. AND THEN THEY'LL DO THE PUBLIC HEARING THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING. AND THEN THEY'LL GO HOME. AND WITH THAT INFORMATION

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AND THE NOTES THEY'VE TAKEN, THEY WILL PREPARE MARKETS SAMPLES OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. AND ON SEPTEMBER 21ST, I BELIEVE, UM, THEY COME BACK. AND THEY PRESENT THEM TO THE SELECTION PANEL AND TO THE PUBLIC ART BOARD. AND THE SELECTION PANEL WILL RECOMMEND THE TWO TOP. TO THE ART BOARD. THE ART BOARD WILL IN TURN CONCUR WITH IT, WHICH THEY USUALLY DO, OR THEY CAN CHANGE IT. AND THEN THOSE TWO FINAL ARTISTS OR ARTISTS WILL COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AND A CONTRACT. SO WHEN YOU SAY PUBLIC INPUT UM WHAT'S THE PUBLIC GONNA HAVE TO INPUT ON THAT MAKES SENSE. WELL IT DEPENDS ON THE THEMES WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT THEY CAME OUT AND TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMALS . THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE WORKERS AND HOW APPRECIATIVE THEY WERE OF THE WORKERS THAT WORKED OUT THERE. UM WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ANIMAL SHELTER WHO SPOKE AND IT JUST GIVES ARTISTS A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH FEELING FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING FOR DOES THAT PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS START AT SIX. IT WILL. I'VE HAD SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM ARTISTS AFTER THEY'VE COME OUT FOR THAT THAT ENTIRE MEETING AND THERE THEY BRAG ON HOW HELPFUL IT IS WHEN THEY GO BACK TO COME UP WITH THEIR THEY'RE PIECES OF ART. AND ESPECIALLY HEARING FROM UM, THE CAT OWES ABOUT THE AUTHENTICITY AND WHAT THEY NEED TO LOOK FOR WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THIS, MAYBE DIFFERENT AREAS THEY CAN RESEARCHED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR CONTEMPORARY ART HERE. WE'RE LOOKING TO PLACE HISTORY ON THESE PIECES OF ART. SO, UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE SELECTION PANEL DOES IT CONSISTS OF ANYONE FROM THAT TRIBE OR HOW WAS THE SELECTION SELECTION PANEL IS MADE UP? UM, NORMALLY, AND IN THIS CASE, IT IS TOO. TWO ARTISTS. WE HAVE A GRAPHIC ARTIST AND WE HAVE A, UM ACRYLIC OIL ARTISTS. UM TO CITIZENS FROM THE CITY. REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PARKS BOARD, BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO GO IN THE PARKS AND THEN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR BOARD. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE, UM JEREMY, WHO IS WITH THE, UM TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT THEY CALL HIS HE REPRESENTS ALL OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AS FAR AS GETTING THEM INSURANCE, TAKING CARE OF ANY OF THEIR ISSUES. HE'S LIKE THE PERSON THAT THEY GO TO, SO HE IS. TRAVEL AMAZON TRIBAL TRIBAL LABS LAY US ON YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT. YEAH SO, UM , HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE EVEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE.

PREVIOUS ART THAT SOME OF THE ARTISTS DID, HE WOULD SAY, UM THAT HAS TO DO WITH INDENTION ISSE PEOPLE, BUT IT'S VERY GENERIC. YOU KNOW, SO HE CAN SEE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T SEE. YEAH I WAS JUST HOPING THERE WAS SOMEONE LIKE IT. GET SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY VIEWING. SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. YES SO, UM, THEY SAT AROUND A ROUND TABLE AND DISCUSSED IT OUT UNTIL THEY CAME DOWN WITH THE FOUR. AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OPINION THAN IT THAN ANYTHING BUT WHEN WE GET CLOSE WHEN THE SELECTION COMMITTEE GETS CLOSE, AND I HOPE THE ARTISTS GET THE FEEDBACK, TOO, BECAUSE COUNSELOR KIND OF SWINGS THIS WAY WE RAN INTO THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MURAL. COMPETITION. WITH THIS BEING HISTORICAL. TRYING TO REMAIN WITH THE TRIBAL CONNECTION, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT IT CAN BE EDUCATIONAL PIECES. I HOPE THAT I HOPE THE ARTISTS COME BACK WITH LESS ABSTRACT. MHM IN THEIR DESIGNS. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THESE ARTISTS WERE CHOSEN, UM, ESPECIALLY THE STONE ARTISTS YOU CAN SEE AND THEIR WORK THAT THEY COULD DO A MULTITUDE OF THINGS IN CARVING THE STONE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW, UM VERY HISTORICAL. AND UM, I THINK THE BRONZE, UM IS A LITTLE OUT THERE. UM NOT

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NOT IN THE WAY THAT HE DOES HIS ART BECAUSE HE COULD. HE COULD DO A PIECE OF POTTERY AND HAVE THOSE COLORS COMING OUT BEHIND IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, BUT BRONZE IS SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. THEN THE REST OF THESE, UM MATERIALS THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BREATH OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM HIM, BUT THEY LOVED HIS WORK SO MUCH THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE HIM. YEAH. THEY ALSO LIKE THE WATER FEATURES THAT ONE OF THEM DID SO. AS I RECALL. THE FIRST ONE SUNNY BEHAN. HE WAS IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE LAST PIECE AS WELL. PARDON THE SUNNY BEHAN. I BELIEVE HE WAS IN CONSIDERATION FOR OF WHAT? WE CHOSE THE MOSAIC EXACTLY. I THOUGHT HE LOOKED. I THOUGHT HE LOOKED FAMILIAR. YEAH. HE WAS HE DIDN'T MAKE THE FINAL. HE DID. HE WAS HE WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE BOX. HE WAS DEFINITELY IN THE SELECTION PROCESS. WHO AM OH, YEAH, HE WAS. YEAH, I LOVE IT. IT'S AWESOME. YEAH, HE HE WAS, UM HE WAS WITH THE OTHER APPLICANTS. YEAH. HMM. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S AUSTRALIAN.

FOR ENGLISH. FROM THE SAXON. BUT HE'S ACTUALLY AN INTERNATIONAL ARTIST. HE'S ALL OVER. THE WORLD. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING FURTHER ON DISCUSSION, TOO? NO ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM THREE. REGARDING THE 23 WILEY ARTS FESTIVAL EVENT ON DECEMBER 2ND OF THIS YEAR 2023. LET'S DISCUSS APPLICATIONS RECEIVED IN THE MONTH OF JULY AND THE APARTMENT APPOINTMENT OF A THREE MEMBER PANEL TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS WHICH EVERY BEEN RECEIVED. SO FAR. I WANT TO BE ON THE PANEL. SAME NOT WANT TO BE ON THE PANEL, OKAY, RIGHT THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE BOARD AS WELL. JOSEPH, OKAY? UM SO. I AM HAPPY TO BE A FILLER LATER ON. WE HAVE A AGENDA ITEM. YEAH, THERE HE IS. OKAY SO, UM OR ACTUALLY, SHOULD WE TAKE A MOMENT AND OFFER CASSIE THE OPPORTUNITY OR GLORIA THE OPPORTUNITY OR ANITA OR WHOMEVER? YEAH. ALL RIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY? WE KIND OF HOPPED ON THAT, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE A CHANCE, OKAY? UM SO I SENT AN EMAIL OUT ONCE WE WENT OVER THE APPLICATION, WHICH CHANGED A COUPLE OF THINGS WE INCREASED BY $10 THE FIVE BY EIGHT. UM. I THINK THAT WAS ALL WE DID. BUT WE ALSO PUT SOME OTHER BURBAGE IN THERE ABOUT THE FOOD VENDORS HAVING TO CONTACT THE COUNTY. TO GET THEIR TEMPORARY PERMIT. AND IT WAS CHANGED AROUND A LITTLE SO THAT NOW, UM THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT A PICTURE OF THEIR SETUP. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS ANYMORE ABOUT WHAT THEIR SETUP IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. PROBLEM BENDERS. HMM. THAT WAY.

CRAIG HAS A GOOD IDEA OF HOW MUCH SPACE THE FOOD VENDORS ARE GOING TO TAKE. AND WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE SETUP LOOKS LIKE. AND IF IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW VERY NICE AND PROFESSIONAL OR IF IT LOOKS LIKE YOU KNOW, A NICE TENT THAT MIGHT GO OUTSIDE. BUT SINCE WE SENT THAT A WEEK AGO. I'VE HAD 100 AND 20 APPLICATIONS. AND AS I'M GOING THROUGH, I'M ONLY STARTING ON THE SEAS RIGHT NOW TO GET THE POWER POINT READY FOR YOU TO BE VIEW. UM THERE ARE A LOT OF LAST YEAR'S BECAUSE WHEN I'M DOING THIS YEAR IS IF THEY WERE IN THE EVENT LAST YEAR, I'M PUTTING THEIR BOOTH NUMBER FROM LAST YEAR. ON THIS YEAR SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE OUTSIDE WERE THEY INSIDE? YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE THEY? UM AND ALSO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR DISPLAYING EVERYTHING SO IT WILL TAKE ME. A FEW DAYS TO GET THAT DONE, BUT I'LL SET UP A MEETING ONCE WE'VE APPROVED OUR PANEL. SO THE FIRST TIME. WE'LL HAVE A LOT TO GO THROUGH. BUT UM, FOR WHAT YOU

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CAN DO IS THE ONES THAT WE KNOW COME BACK EVERY YEAR LIKE COVENTRY. UM WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE. RIGHT AWAY, AND THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FOR OTHER EVENTS AND THEN THE ONES THAT WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE WE WANT TO, UM, PUT THEM WE CAN HOLD OFF ON AND JUST WAIT FOR A WHILE, SO JUST THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD PLAN. YES, I MEAN, A SEPARATE QUESTION. SOMETHING I REMEMBERED FROM LAST YEAR AND IT WORKED OUT FINE. IT WASN'T REAL ISSUE. BUT INSIDE VENDORS UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT SHOWED UP WITH THEIR TENTS AND GIVEN THE WONKY LAYOUT OF THE FLOORING , THE POST THE DIFFERENT PILLARS THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE AROUND. UM IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN EITHER FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? OR TELL THEM NO TENTS INSIDE SO THAT THEY CAN BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SHOW ME A LITTLE THIS WAY. AND THAT WAY TO MAKE IT RIGHT. I REMEMBER AND WE HAVE A COUPLE IN PARTICULAR THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN THE SPACE TO UM I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR DESIGN SHEETS AND EVERYTHING ON THEIR TANT. AND IF YOU DON'T LET HIM BRING IT, AND THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT AS LONG AS IT WORKS OUT LIKE IT DID LAST YEAR, BECAUSE WE I MEAN, WE HAD TO MOVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT IT WAS EASY LIKE ONE PERSON DIDN'T SHOW UP OR SOMETHING, AND IT WORKED OUT FINE. AND IT ALWAYS DOES. THERE WAS THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE THAT HAD A TENT.

AND SHE WAS BY A POLL. YEAH, AND THAT WAS OVER BY THE FULL WITH YEAH. SO WE KNEW THAT THEY HAD A 10 BY 10 10. WE MIGHT KNOW THE PLACE THEM IN A TRUE 10 BY 10 AND NOT TO BE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WELL, IF I'VE KNOWN IF I HAD KNOWN THAT BEFORE WE SEND OUT THE APPLICATION, I COULD HAVE PUT IT ON THE APPLICATION. ARE WE IN THAT PART OF THE PROCESS THIS TIME? YES YES, IT IS. I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE ARE SETTING UP. THEY KNOW THEY'RE IN SUNDAY. MY HAVING SIX SET UP, BUT AT LEAST GIVE US AN IDEA IF THEY HAVEN'T YEAH. SEE THAT? OH, YEAH, THEY HAVE TO. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. QUICK QUESTION. UM I'M ASSUMING THAT THE SECOND ROOM THERE'S STILL NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THEIR INSTRUMENTS AND EVERYTHING IN THERE. AND IT IS VERY CROWDED IN IN THE MAIN ROOM, BUT PEOPLE KEEP COMING BACK, SO I GUESS IT'S NOT THAT CROWDED THAT THEY DON'T SELL. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SOME VENDORS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 12 YEARS. THE ARTS EVENTS, ALWAYS ON SATURDAY, RIGHT? IT'S THE FIRST SATURDAY IN DECEMBER AND THE CHURCH HAS SERVICES ON SATURDAY NIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS OKAY. I WAS JUST THINKING. YEAH BECAUSE WE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE. WELL, SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WANTED A TWO DAY EVENT, BUT THERE'S JUST FIRST OF ALL FINANCING IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW $5000 FOR ONE DAY, SO YOU'RE DOUBLING THAT IF YOU HAVE IT FOR TWO DAYS, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT YOU'VE GOT, UM YOU'VE GOT SERVICES. SO YOU KNOW, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE OFF ON FRIDAY? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO IT FRIDAY SATURDAY. YOU CAN DO IT ON SUNDAY, SO. NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP IT DOWNTOWN. YEAH. UNLESS THEY START LET US START PUTTING BOOTS ON BALLARD. IT'S IN HER LIFE. LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING IT, POSSIBLY SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE THREW OUT SOME IDEAS ABOUT HAVING LIKE A STAGE AND KIDS PERFORMING ON STAGE AND STUFF. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT? BECAUSE THAT WAS LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO BRING MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT BRINGS ALL THE PARENTS AND BRINGS RELATIVES. IT BRINGS FRIENDS AND IT MAKES IT MORE FESTIVE AND, UM, WHEN I WILL SAY IS THAT WE USED TO HAVE , UM, DANCE GROUPS THAT WOULD COME UM. AND THEY WOULD BE ON STAGE. AND YOU KNOW HOW CRAMPED IT IS UP THERE WITH THE DIFFERENT BOOTHS. WELL THEY WOULD BRING THEIR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS AND IT WAS CORRAO DID. YEAH. OK, EVERYTHING OUT, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN OUTDOOR

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STAGE. THAT WOULD BE UM, SAFE. FOR BIG GROUPS OF DANCERS. NOW WHAT WE COULD DO, BUT WE'VE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING IT IS HAVING INSTRUMENTAL GROUPS THAT COULD BE UP ON THE PATIO, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OR HAVING SMALL DANCE GROUPS THAT JUST WERE OUTSIDE AND JUST, YOU KNOW.

DANCING AROUND THE STREET BECAUSE THAT'S ALL CLOSED OFF. UM HAVE HAS BEEN. THEY DO, AND THEY SEEM TO ALWAYS BE ON IN COMPETITION. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THIS. SO WOULD HAVE JUST THE SPEAKER SYSTEM OF GOOD MUSIC OUTSIDE TOO. IT'S GETTING BIG ENOUGH OUTSIDE. YES, ZOMBIES.

NOW THE DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS HAVE CHRISTMAS MUSIC ON BUT IT'S HARD TO HEAR. BUT IF ANYONE KNOWS LITTLE SMALL DANCE GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DRESS UP I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY NEAT TO HAVE THEM DRESSED UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS THEME, LIKE SORT OF THING. CALL THAT CANCER. YEAH BUT THE CAROLERS THAT HAVE THE LONG JACKETS ON AND OH, YEAH, LIKE A DICKINSON LOOK. YEAH DICKINSON, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SO COOL, BUT I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYONE INTERESTED IN DOING IT. YEAH, YEAH. WELL I WOULDN'T EVEN MIND RUNNING THE COSTUMES, BUT I HAVE NO BODIES TO PUT IN THEM. I TEACH DANCE CLASSES AT THE REC CENTER AND TYPICALLY HOSTED CHRISTMAS PERFORMANCE, SO I HAVE SMALL CLASSES OF COOL YOUNG DANCERS. AS AN OPTION AS ONE OPTION, AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE DANCE STUDIOS AROUND THE AREA. 11 SO I DIDN'T. SO UM, WILL YOU NEED A STAGE? I'VE HAD DANCERS THAT ADVANCED ON STREETS BEFORE LIKE FOR PARADES. UH, UM. I WOULDN'T SAY IT WOULD BE NECESSARY IF WE KNEW GOING INTO IT THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ACTUAL STAGE SET UP SO THAT OUR CHOREOGRAPHY WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT, LIKE NO GETTING ON THE GROUND. THAT KIND OF THING? YES UM, I NEED TO KNOW BEFORE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS A STAGE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT IS. UM, BUT CAN YOU BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION, UNLIKE HOW MANY GROUPS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? IT'S DECEMBER 2ND? YEAH UM, KIND OF KEEPING IT KIND OF A CHRISTMAS THEME. I THINK THAT'D BE AWESOME . YEAH, I KNOW SEVERAL. YEAH. GROUPS AROUND I COULD PROVIDE SOUND SYSTEM FOR THAT IF WE NEEDED THAT. AND INTERCOM SYSTEM. HMM. YEAH. UM AND AS FAR AS THE LOCATION FOR ESPECIALLY IF WE DON'T WANT TO CROWD THE VENDORS AND CLOGGING ANYTHING IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA, THERE ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE A FAIRLY OPEN AREA AROUND THE BOUNCE HOUSES AND STUFF. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE POSSIBILITY. BUT THEN, IF THEIR PARENTS FAMILY AND EVERYONE SHOWED UP, THEY'D STILL BE THERE FOR THE FESTIVAL, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BEING A IT WAS A EASY PLACE TO VIEW. I CAN'T SPEAK. LET ME TALK TO CRAIG AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS WITH THE BEST PLACE WOULD BE AND THEN I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH. AND WE'LL GET BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT. AND IF ANYONE KNOWS ANY ANY PEOPLE THAT PLAY INSTRUMENTS, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE LIKE TO HAVE A SAXOPHONE OR A TRUMPET OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, JUST PLAYING FESTIVE MUSIC OUTSIDE BUT ANYWAY YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS NICER WHEN YOU HAVE THAT LAST YEAR WAS THAT JUST KIND OF AT HARTFORD? WAS HE PLAYING A GUITAR OR SOMETHING? REMEMBER THERE WAS SOMEBODY HE STARTED PLAYING THE GUITAR AND THEN YEAR BEFORE LAST WE HAD A GIRL THAT CAME AND SHE DID CHRISTMAS MUSIC , AND SHE PLAYED A GUITAR, SHARE HER OWN AMP AND EVERYTHING. AND SHE WAS IN THE BACK AND COME IN THE BUILDING. I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE RIGHT OUTSIDE. THAT ARE IMPROVES IN THE BACK. AND THEY HAD AN AUNT BECAUSE THEN THEY WERE ALSO TRYING TO DO SOME KARAOKE. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET KIDS TO SING ALONG, AND IT WASN'T THAT LAST YEAR. I DIDN'T SEE HIM IF IT WAS ANITA, SOMEBODY. SEEMS LIKE IT WAS. THAT'S WHY I WAS, AND I MEAN THEY WEREN'T THERE IN THE BEGINNING LIKE IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE AFTERNOON, AND THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T LIKE SOMEBODY THAT WE HAD SCHEDULED. THEY JUST KIND OF SHOWED UP. AND

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WE JUST OH, WELL, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH HE WAS HE WAS DOING CHRISTMAS SALTY WAS ALSO DOING SOME OTHERS, YOU KNOW, BUT REMEMBER. I KNOW ROB USED TO COME AND DO IT, BUT HE DOESN'T DO IT ANYMORE. ROB HUNTER. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER FELLOW THAT AMOUNT OF CHRIS. THE OTHER GUY, UM. ROB WAS A SINGER. BUT THE OTHER GUY PLAYED, UM HORN. YES, HE DID, UM. DOING THAT. I FORGOT HIS NAME BRAND THE VALOR STREET. HE HAD ALL THAT WAS PROBABLY SOMEBODY WHO WAS A TEACHER. NO HE USED TO COME IN THE OFFICE ALL THE TIME.

WHEN I WORKED FULL TIME. I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME HAS TWO GRANDSONS. AND HE HAD ONE OF THEM COME AND PLAY WHEN YOU'RE TOO. ANYWAY IF ANYBODY HEARS OF ANYONE THAT PLAYS AN INSTRUMENT , I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HAVE ACCESS TO COME. WE HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF MUSICIANS. UM AND MIKE IS A MUSICIAN. COOL. PEAS. PROBABLY GOING TO BE FINISHING UP CHEMO AT THAT POINT, HMM. UM, BUT OFFLINE ANYWAY, UM. BUT MOST OF THEM DON'T DO THINGS PRO BONO THING. YEAH, THEY DO IT FOR MONEY. THE THING IS, THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP A SET. I MEAN THEY SO THE MUSICIANS WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT HOLIDAY MUSICIANS SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP. THE SET AND LEARNED THE MUSIC AND PRACTICE AND REHEARSE AND PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO IT. FOR TIPS. I YEAH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY MIGHT DO WELL, BUT I DON'T KNOW. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. YEAH AND SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES SOMEBODY WANT TO PUT ALL THAT TIME AND EFFORT INTO JUST HOLIDAY MUSIC, YOU KNOW? YOU THINK SHELL. MABRY MAY KNOW SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW SHE'S THE VOICE LESSONS AND SHELTERS, GUITAR LESSONS AND YOU KNOW, CHERYL, SHE'S YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. YOU WANT TO ASK HER? I COULD ASK. MIKE'S WORKING ON A ROCKABILLY SET UP IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ROCKABILLY. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WILL BRING THAT TO CONCLUSION THAT MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM FOUR. WHICH MEANS I GET TO FALL ON MY RUSTY SWORD BECAUSE I NEED TO MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING SINCE I COMPLETELY NEGLECTED IT THIS TIME. UM SO IF THAT IS AN OPTION, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT THE NEXT MEETING YES. DURING THE BUSINESS. ONE OF THE ITEMS IS FOR THAT. AND UM WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO TABLE TO THE NEXT MEETING. ROGER THAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA TO CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES FROM JUNE 15TH 23 NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 15TH 2023 I SECOND THE MOTION. CAROL MIGHT THINK SAYS THAT I'M NOT ASSIGNED TO I'M NOT EITHER. SO IT'S YEAH. DID YOU CHECK IN AND IT'S NOT SHOWING ANYTHING. IT JUST SAYS NO DELEGATE WAS ASSIGNED TO THE SEA. GET IT. WELL.

YEAH I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG. WELL, WE'LL JUST USE HANDS, I GUESS. SOME PEOPLE DO. OH, MAYBE WE DON'T. I STARTED THE MEETING. WELL JUST DO IT BY HANDS, AND I'LL GET BACK WITH THE CITY

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SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND SEE WHAT WE'LL TAKE IT OLD SCHOOL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. GUYS HAVE IT.

ALRIGHT MOTION PASSES, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TO CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A THREE MEMBER PANEL TO REVIEW ALL WIDELY ARTS FESTIVAL APPS. APPLICATIONS THE BOARD WILL DISCUSS AND TAKE VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE ON THE REVIEW PANEL FOR THE 2023 WIDELY ARTS FESTIVAL. NOW ENTERTAIN NOMINATIONS FOR SAID NOMINATE THEM ALL AT ONCE, OR DO WE NEED TO DO ONE AT A TIME? YOU CAN DO THEM ALL AT ONCE. OKAY, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE STEVE ESTHER. AND JOSEPH. FOR THE THREE PANEL COMMITTEE. I SECOND THE MOTION. UM WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE OR DO YOU ALL THINK THAT YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE MEETINGS? WHEN WILL THE FIRST MEETING ACTUALLY BE? THE FIRST ONE WILL BE IN ABOUT A WEEK. DO THAT. OKAY WANT TO PUT AN ALTERNATE DOWN? UM PROBABLY WOULD BE A WISE IDEA BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FOR A FEW WEEKS AT THE END OF AUGUST AND 2 SEPTEMBER, SO OKAY. RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. ALRIGHT, LET'S HAVE IT. UNANIMOUS. ITEM THREE TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR. THEY CAN DO THIS BETTER THAN I CAN FOR 23 24. YOU DON'T WANT. VIDEO GLORIA, CAN I USE YOUR PENCIL FOR A MINUTE MINE? DIED. GOOD FOR NOMINATION. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ESTHER. FOR BOARD CHAIR SECOND THAT NOMINATION. HMM.

SHOW OF HANDS. UNANIMOUS, UH, PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS. SOMEBODY ELSE ONE ITEM FORWARD TO CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A VICE CHAIR VICE CHAIR FOR THE PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD FOR 23 24.

NOW NOMINATE STEVE SHANK IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO I SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY, ESTHER. SUCKERS, ALRIGHT? SHOW OF HANDS. WE ARE SANCTIFIED SANCTIFIED WITH MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN, UH, MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'M ALWAYS I MOVE TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MUCH FASTER AS WE ARE ALL IN FAVOR. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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