[Animal Shelter Advisory Board on July 12, 2023.] [00:00:20] YEAH PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND DO THE WORK OF THE CITY OF WILEY. THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. FATHER. THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF OF SERVANTS IN THE CITY. FATHER FOR ALL THEY DO. WE ARE TRULY BLESSED TO BE WHERE WE ARE. FOLLOWING WERE JUST HUMBLED BY YOUR MERCY AND GRACE EVERY SINGLE DAY. ALL THAT WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THEY WERE THEIR FAMILIES WHEN THEY'RE SEPARATED. PROBABLY BE WITH THEM AS THEY SERVICE SYSTEMS. WILEY. THEY'RE ALSO ASK THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM. WHO ARE OUT PROTECTING THE FREEDOMS THAT WE SO ENJOY. FATHER ASKED THESE THINGS AND THAT OF YOUR SON. JESUS. AMEN. UM YEAH. YES MR CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO RE NOMINATE YOU AS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND NOMINATE THE CURRENT. THE PICTURE, BUT WHAT IS THAT? MR CHAIR, I'LL SECOND THE NOMINATION. [00:05:18] SINCE I WASN'T HERE. KNOWING THE EFFICIENCY HAVE SEEN SO FAR. I RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THEM. OH, I'LL SECOND THAT. SHEILA, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND IF YOU COULD GO THROUGH THE STATISTICS. FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS, PLEASE. COULD I ASK A QUESTION? UM WHAT IS THE POLICY? H R R C. SO IF YOU'LL GET JUST HERE JUST SECOND. SHEILA IS GOING TO GO THROUGH. THE AND MAKE SOME OF THOSE CLARIFY SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE ACTUAL ADVISORY BOARD REPORT IS. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS REPORT AND THE T AND R REPORT. SO SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW. UH HUH. OKAY, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A SECOND QUARTER, SO YOU'LL SEE A REPORT FROM EACH QUARTER THAT'S PERFORMED. BASICALLY IT'S A FULL TRANSPARENCY REPORT THAT'S TELLING YOU ABOUT UM, H CATEGORY , UH, DOG, CATS AND OTHERS. UM, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A SEPARATE TNR REPORT TO AS WELL. BUT ON THIS PAGE, UH IN PARTICULAR SO WE STARTED THE IMPOUNDS, WHICH IS YOUR YOUR WHOLE TOP SECTION, WHICH IS PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY. HOW ARE HOW WE GAINED THE ANIMAL IT WAS IMPOUNDED, SO THEIR BEST SURRENDER STRAY QUARANTINE A SAFE KEEP. UH D O A HAS A DECEASED ANIMAL OR TRAPPED BY RESIDENT OR BORN AT OUR SHELTER. WE TAKE THOSE NUMBERS. YOU'RE NEXT. YOU'RE NEXT PORTION IS THE DISPOSITION HOW THEY HAVE LEFT THE FACILITY OR COULD POSSIBLY STILL BE THERE? RETURN TO OWNER ADOPTED, RESCUED, EUTHANIZED AND OTHER. OUR EUTHANASIA REASONS ARE THEN DEFINED BELOW THAT. BEHAVIORAL MEDICAL POLICY SLASH HIGH RISK RABIES CARRIER. AND THEN A WILD ANIMAL. AND THEN BELOW THAT YOU'LL SEE WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AT THE TOP , YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER AT THE BEGINNING OF A REPORT AT THE END OF A REPORT. YOU HAVE ANIMALS AT THE FACILITY. YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM, SO THOSE NUMBERS ARE FIGURED INTO AS WELL. UM. I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ALREADY LOOKED AT THESE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES THE H R R C BEFORE I CONTINUE IF YOU NEED A PICTURE. ON THE TRAPPED BY THE PRESIDENT. UH, MHM CONSIDERABLE NUMBER. AND I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED MOST OF THE WILD ANIMALS, BUT THEY'RE NOT. OTHER ATTRACT DIVERS. NO DOUBT. AND SIX OTHERS. OKAY SO ON YOUR TRAP BY RESIDENT UM YOU'RE SAYING EXPECTED TO SEE HIGHER YOU ARE GOING TO SEE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THROUGH THE TNR. SO, UM. ACTUALLY YOU KNOW, 28TH FAIRLY LARGE NUMBER TO BE TRAPPED BY RESIDENTS. HONESTLY SO, UM, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND TO UNDERSTANDING THAT TRIBAL RESIDENT IS ALL OTHERS. SO SKUNKS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY OTHER THINGS, UM, THAT ARE IN THAT CATEGORY. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT SO THEN WE HAVE, UM THE NEXT PORTION OF THE STATISTICS. SO WE'RE KIND OF NEW FOR THIS. SO UM, JUST AS A BRIEF UPDATE A CITY WHILE HE DID START A TRAP, NEUTER AND RETURN PROGRAM BY CITY ORDINANCE, WHERE, UM EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN A COMMON PRACTICE AND THEN [00:10:01] PRACTICED. UM BY MANY, MANY AGENCIES, BUT WE ACTUALLY PUT AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE. SOMEBODY THAT WAS OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR THAT WE STARTED THAT. SO EACH QUARTER YOU ARE GOING TO SEE THE NUMBERS COME THROUGH, UM, FOR HOWEVER, MANY CAREGIVERS ACTUALLY NEEDED OUR ASSISTANCE FOR THIS PROGRAM. SO. IT HAS BEEN PRIOR BROUGHT TO ME FOR THE BOARD TO, UH, TRY TO SEE HOW THESE NUMBERS ARE EITHER MAINTAINING, GAINING OR UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE PROGRAM, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THAT ON THE NEXT ON THE NEXT MAPPING THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IT THIS POINT. UM WE WERE. WE ARE CURRENTLY NOW AT LEAST ACHIEVING, UM THROUGH HEALTH OF STAFF. AH SOME SET APPOINTMENTS FOR THIS, SO OUR CAREGIVERS ARE BEING TOLD WHAT DAY TO BRING THEM. BRING THOSE UP. IF THEY NEED US, WE DID HAVE A CAREGIVER. YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT. UM, TNR. THEY ARE CALLED CAREGIVERS OR THEIR COLONY CAREGIVERS WHO NEEDED OUR ASSISTANCE. UM FOREIGN ANDREW TNR. SO WE WERE. YOU KNOW, AND HELP HER WITH THAT PROCESS, TOO, AS WELL. UM BUT IT IS FAIRLY LOW. WE I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU GET OUR SHELTER WEEKLY REPORTS AND WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT ON FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISEASES COMING THROUGH THE FACILITIES HAVING TO SHUT DOWN KATARINA IS AND THAT DOES EVEN INCLUDE OUR TNR AREAS WERE SUPER SMALL. WE CANNOT STOP CROSS CONTAMINATION. IF OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE ANIMALS THAT WERE OUT IN OUR OUR AREA HEALTHY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BRING THEM THROUGH THE SHELTER AND LET THEM OBTAIN. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS YEAR WE FACE WAS LIKE A KITTY PARVO. AND IT WAS IT WAS VERY HARD FOR US, BUT WE DID MAKE IT THROUGH THAT. BUT WE DID HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TIME OF US HAVING TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS BUT ARE CARED MOST OF OUR CARETAKERS AND MOST WE HAVE FOUND THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST FINE, TAKING THEM UP TO T CAP THEMSELVES, RIGHT? SO UM AND WE HAVE WE ARE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A LOT OF RESCUES. THEY'RE DOING THESE PROGRAMS TO OUR MOBILE HOME PARKS HAVE KIND OF TEAMED UP WITH PLACES TO OVER THE YEARS. THEY'VE FOUND THAT THIS REALLY WORKS AND IT IT DOES HELP. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING MORE PROACTIVE TOWARDS THIS. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A ACTUAL ER PROGRAM. I THINK THEY FEEL BETTER EVEN ABOUT DOING IT BECAUSE IT CAN BE DONE IN OUR CITY. NOW YOU CAN BE A CARETAKER. YOU CAN DO THIS AND THE LEGISLATIVE THIS YEAR KIND OF HELD US UP, BUT HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING ENDS UP GETTING SIGNED. BUT THERE WAS SOME BURBAGE AND ONE OF THE LAST LAWS. IT WAS KIND OF DETERRENT PERSONS FROM WANTING TO DO TNR, BASED ON MAYBE CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR ABANDONMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEY STRAIGHTEN THAT UP THIS SESSION SO HOPEFULLY NOW TOO, AND WILL CONTINUE TO EVEN INCREASE MORE. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW ALL THAT WE STILL HAVE THE RESOURCES THERE AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE STAYED IN APPOINTMENTS FOR THIS TO HELP US WITH OUR SHORT STAFFING AND TO GET DOES IN THERE. THAT NEXT MAP. MIGHT BE SMALL WHEN IT'S ON PAPER. SO I WILL TELL YOU I AM NOT A MAP PERSON, BUT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TNR AND KIND OF HELD TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBERS. AND I HAD SUGGESTED WE TRY TO DO THAT BY DISTRICT BECAUSE THESE ARE THE SAME DISTRICTS FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT FOR US TO CODE FOR OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, SO WE KNOW WHERE WE HAVE MOVED BACK TO WE DON'T WANT TO GET SUPER SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, LIKE A CARETAKER MIGHT BE , YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE DO WANT TO BE HAVE SOME PRIVACY ABOUT THAT. SO THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE REFLECTED ON HERE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT SINCE WE'VE STARTED CONDUCTING TNR WITH THE CITY. UM, WITH OUR ORDINANCE. THESE ARE THE COMPLETE NUMBERS. SO, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD THE, UM THAT'S WHY I PUT THE HEAD TRAUMA FROM THE REGION AND THAT NEVER HAD WENT DOWN. YOU KNOW, I HAD TO DO THAT. SO I'M CONSISTENTLY TRYING TO FIND A WAY. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AT SOME POINT WHERE WE SAY, YOU KNOW. WE WANT TO DO THIS YEAR LATER, ONE BIG BUT NOT LOSE TRACK OF THESE BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE BASICALLY SAYS YOUR CARETAKER, WHETHER YOU HAVE ONE OR YOU HAVE FIVE OR YOU HAVE 10 YOUR CARETAKER. SO IT CAN BE QUITE DIFFICULT FOR US TO KEEP UP WITH OUR CARETAKERS ARE TOLD . HEY CALL US WHICH THAT ONE DID, WHICH IS OBVIOUS THAT WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB AT COMMUNICATING THIS WITH OUR CARETAKERS. BECAUSE SHE REACHED OUT IMMEDIATELY LIKE I'VE GOT A [00:15:02] CAT GOT A PROBLEM. I NEED YOUR HELP. AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. NOT THE BEST PART OF OUR JOB, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. UM SO WE CAN TOUCH BASE WITH THE CARETAKERS THAT HAVE THE LARGER AMOUNTS A LOT EASIER THAN WE CAN. THE SMALLER AMOUNTS. SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST LAST SET FOR A LONG TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS. SO THIS IS WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH WHERE I KNOW THESE ARE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES TO KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN THROUGH OUR TNR PROGRAM. AND WHAT'S BEEN TESTED. YES AND YOU'LL NOTICE AND THERE'S I KNOW A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY GET THE MAP GOING. HEY, THIS IS A LITTLE BITTY NUMBER, BUT A LOT OF THESE RESCUES AND A LOT OF, UM WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE. AREA. DID THEY DO IT THEMSELVES? EITHER MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND . THIS IS JUST US. SO THERE ARE A LOT MORE TEA AND ARE A LOT OF T AND ARE OUT THERE. I KNEW WE HAVE A RESCUE REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS BOARD. IT'S THERE. BUT THESE ARE MY NUMBERS AND THE BEST THAT I CAN DO AT THIS POINT. SINCE WE HAVE STARTED CONDUCTING THIS TNR PROGRAMS. SO THAT IS WHERE I HAD DECIDED TO START WITH, UM AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW OR, YOU KNOW WHATEVER THE BOARD'S DIRECTION IS AT THAT POINT. AH! HOW I NEED TO CHANGE THIS UP OR SUGGESTIONS OR WHAT I CAN DO. MR CHAIR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REPORTING NATURE IS BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE TNR S ARE COMING FROM UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CARETAKER REPORTING IS TOUGH TO GET A HOLD OF WHEN THE NUMBERS ARE DECREASED, UM, DOWN TO THE ONES AND TWOS, BUT I THINK WHEN WE INITIALLY RESPONDED TO THE OUTCRY FROM THE COMMUNITY. IN ZONE NUMBER FOUR WAS WHERE THE MAJOR ISSUE WAS OR EVER SWEAR. THE MAJOR ISSUE THAT WAS BEING REPORTED WAS AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER NEXT TO THAT THERE WERE 17 ANIMALS THAT WERE AH! TRAPPED. NEITHER AND RELEASED AND THAT HELPS STOP THE SPREAD OF A COLONY TO BEING FROM 17 TO WHAT'S THE NUMBER AT THE END OF THE YEAR. YOU COULD HAVE 50 OR 100. SO I THINK THAT THIS PROVES THAT THE PROGRAM WORKS AND I LIKE THE REPORT, AND I THINK THAT IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE A QUARTERLY REPORT. IN ORDER TO ALLOW US TO VIEW THIS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ITS EFFECTIVENESS WITHIN THE AREAS, SO WHEN I WHEN I CITIZEN REACHES OUT TO US, A BOARD MEMBER OR REACHES OUT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAYS, HEY, I LIVE ON X STREET AND WE'VE GOT THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LAY BACK ON AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I HEAR YOU AND HERE'S WHERE HERE'S HOW IT WORKED IN THIS AREA. SO IF YOU CAN HELP GET US IN CONTACT WITH THE PERSON THAT'S THE CARETAKER OF THIS COLONY OR THE CARETAKER OF THIS GROUP OF ANIMALS. IT WILL HELP US GET THAT REPORT SO THAT WE CAN GAIN INFORMATION FOR THE REPORT. SO I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR EFFORTS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT. SO I JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE MAP IS EVERYBODY'S AS OPPOSED TO THE REPORT WAS JUST WHAT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE SHELTER. SO THEY REPORT ARE ALL OF OURS SINCE WE STARTED 10 R, AND THE REPORT IS BASICALLY JUST THE QUARTERS. SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE A STARTING POINT, YOU COULD SEE WHAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE TNR PROGRAM AS FAR AS CITY SERVICED. AND WE'RE ASSISTING THE CARETAKER. SO YOU HAVE YOUR BEGINNING NUMBERS ON YOUR MAP. SO NEXT QUARTER WHEN I BRING ONE IN I DID MY NEXT ONE AND YOU'LL SEE THE SAME EXPLANATION. SO YOU SHOULD SEE THESE NUMBERS GROW IF WE'RE USING THEM OR HELPFULLY MAINTAIN AND JUST AS, UH, MR FORRESTER HAS SAID, IS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THE COLONIES ARE REACTING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO IF THERE'S MAYBE OF A NEIGHBORING REGION TO ONE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA LEARN. WE'RE GONNA LEARN HOW TO GET THIS REPORTING DONE, BUT NO ALL EVERYTHING ON THE MAP. IS WHAT OUR CITIES HAS HAS SERVICED SINCE WE STARTED THE ORDINANCE. SO SHE LOVES IT FAIR TO SAY THAT . THE NUMBERS ARE TYPICALLY NOT GOING TO GO DOWN BECAUSE RARELY ARE CATS REPORTED AS NO LONGER IN THEIR COLONY. IN OTHER WORDS, GETTING THE CARETAKER TO SAY, HEY, I'M DOWN TO THREE CATS VERSUS SIX CATS. IS A THE CHALLENGE FOR Y'ALL. SO WHEN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE SEE A NUMBER GO DOWN. UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE A DECEASED ANIMAL. BUT YOU KNOW AS A T AND ARE FROM THAT AREA. RIGHT UM, I THINK WE'RE ONLY REALLY GOOD. YEAH I THINK WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SEE UM THE DECREASES WITH OUR CARETAKERS THAT HAVE MULTIPLES THAT ARE IN TOUCH WITH US BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER CONTINUING OR WATCHING, [00:20:04] FOR INSTANCE, THE CARETAKER THAT NEEDED OUR ASSISTANCE. SO WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER OUT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ANIMAL WAS HUMANELY WITHIN US. SO UM, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO REACH FOR THOSE CARETAKERS BECAUSE WE KNOW WHO HAS MULTIPLES IN THE AREA, AND HONESTLY, THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD AT WATCHING THEIR COLONIES BECAUSE THEY WE? WE TELL THEM THEY NEED TO AND THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OTHER OTHERS COMING IN AND I THINK WE MIGHT BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AT HOW WELL WILL BE ABLE TO TRY TO KEEP THESE NUMBERS. I'M HOPING FOR THAT. AND REAL QUICK. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS WHY WE WANT TO SEPARATE OUT TNR S VERSUS THE ANIMALS THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE IN BECAUSE REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RECEIVING IN AND A TNR. RIGHT SO ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID, UM, REALLY BREAK THIS UP WAS FOR THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER REASON YOU HAVE THIS SECTION OF HIS TRAPPED BY RESIDENT SO WHAT PEOPLE DID UNDERSTAND THEY JUST I THOUGHT WE JUST CONSIDERED EVERYTHING FERAL. WE'LL JUST BECAUSE IT'S TRAPPED. AND MY SAYS IT'S A FERAL CAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A FERAL CAT, RIGHT, SO WE STILL HAVE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO SCAN EVERY ANIMAL THAT COMES THROUGH OUR FACILITY THAT IS STATE LAW, AND IT'S DONE EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL. SO WE HAVE TO SCAN ALL THESE ANIMALS. RIGHT AND SCANNING. SCAN THEM. SCAN THEM. I'M SORRY. I ASSUME EVERYBODY KNOWS MY LANGUAGE SITE ME TALKING TO THE I T PEOPLE. UM WE SCAN THEM FOR MICROCHIPS CAN MICROCHIP IMPLANTATION SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN'T GET AN OWNER'S INFORMATION? OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A CAT THAT'S IN A TRAP THAT ALREADY HAS THE OFFICE HERE. TIP IT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED. MIDDLE SIZE IS NOT INJURED OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING RIGHT BACK OUT TO HIS COLONY. WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD ONE OF THOSE TWO DAYS AGO. SO UH, THOSE ANIMALS ARE DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO SO THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING HIS TNR IS THESE ARE WILD, FERAL ANIMALS, AND THEY ARE VERY AH, GOOD AT THEIR JOB. RIGHT AND WE ARE NOT PLACING THESE EFFORT. ADOPTION IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT INTO A CAGE AND FADE AND WATER AND CARE FOR AND LET YOUR CHILDREN COME IN AND PLAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO BE EUTHANIZED. TAKE ME PLACE BACK OUT INTO THE COLONY HAVE THE CARETAKERS. THEY'RE ALREADY THERE. IF YOU TAKE THEM OUT, ANOTHER ONE IS GOING TO COME IN. SO LET'S JUST TAKE CARE OF WHAT'S THERE, AND THESE ANIMALS ARE BEING TESTED FOR FELINE LEUKEMIA. THEY'RE GETTING A SHOT . ONCE THEY'RE NEGATIVE. WE'RE PUTTING A RABIES VACCINATED. STERILIZED. WILD ANIMAL BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY TO DO ITS JOB THAT IT IS THERE TO DO ALREADY. SO WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEM HEALTHY AND KEEP THEM PRODUCTIVE . THERE IS NOT A REASON TO EUTHANIZE THE ANIMAL SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS. BECAUSE IT'S THERE THAT IS NOT EVER GOING TO WORK. AND I'M VERY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT THAT. THAT WILL NEVER WORK. SO THIS WORKS. THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS AND I COMMAND OUR COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW MY CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE ON THIS ISSUE. SO UM, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. THAT IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE. SO WHEN YOU SEE TRAPPED BY RESIDENT ON THAT FIRST AND YOU SEE CATS ON THERE, TOO. THOSE ARE CATS THAT THEY TRAPPED AND TOLD US IT WAS CAROL. BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY ARE NOT FERAL, SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAME THEM OR IF THEY WERE YOUNG, MAYBE GET THEM TO A FOSTER WHATEVER IT TOOK. BUT THAT WASN'T A FERAL ANIMAL. SO NOW IT QUALIFIED BY ORDINANCE TO BE FOCUSES IN THIS TRAP, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT IT'S NOT AND. IT'S A MUCH MORE. HUMANE APPROACH THAN IT WAS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER. BECAUSE MY FATHER WOULD COME HOME FROM WORK EVERY SO OFTEN. AND HE SAID JOE AH WOULD GET TOO MANY CATS OUT THERE. THE ALEC CATCHER GETTING OUT OF HAND. TAKE THE 14 AND GO FIX IT. SO I LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL I'M GLAD THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE MOVING IN A GREAT POSITIVE DIRECTION. SO UM, THAT IS BASICALLY UH WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THESE REPORTS, LIEUTENANT, MILLER SAID . I'M DOING MY BEST TO EXPLAIN THEM TO YOU. I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY. WE POST THESE ONLINE AS WELL. THEY'RE RIGHT UNDERNEATH OUR ADOPTIONS, USUALLY AFTER Y'ALL HAVE APPROVED THEM. SO LIKE ALL LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS, UM I HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER FACILITIES AND THERE'S [00:25:03] NOT ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S MORE TRANSPARENT. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY NOW IS THE TIME. 13 CONCERNS OR ANYTHING ELSE. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW BETTER I CAN EXPLAIN IT. WE DIDN'T HAVE MANY. THIS THIS QUARTER, SO I DON'T KNOW IT'S GOOD OR BAD, BUT WE'LL JUST KEEP WATCHING IT. LIKE I JUST DIDN'T DO THE REASON FOR SUSAN. THE REASON FOR HITTING THE BUTTON IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS AUDIO AND VIDEO RECORDED. SO IF YOU DON'T HIT THE BUTTON, IT'S VERY MUFFLED FOR THE RECORDING THAT GOES OUT TO THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE THERE. THE PARKS. MY OWN OR NOT. THE PARKS. UH. I'LL GATHERING FOR THE FOR THE PERILS. DO YOU PLAN MORE THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE? SO WE DON'T WE DO NOT TRAP THEM. ANIMAL SERVICES DOESN'T GO OUT AND TRAP THEM. I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T HAD REPORTS OF THEM GATHERING AROUND THE PARK FOR A REASON. THEY WANNA CONSISTENT COLONY. CARETAKER PARKS ARE MORE SEASONAL, SO THEY LIVE IN A CERTAIN REGION OR A CERTAIN ZONE. BUT WE DON'T THIS THIS SERVICES FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONSTANT CAREGIVERS. WE COULDN'T GO OUT AND TRAP IT A PARK AND THEN THEY EXPECTED TO GO THERE AND FEED THEM EVERY DAY. SO IF WE WERE TO GO OUT AND JUST SET TRAPS AND START CATCHING CATS YOU KNOW THEY NEED A CARETAKER, AND THAT'S NOT US BECAUSE WE HAVE A FACILITY TO DO SO WE'RE NOT OUT TRAPPING. THERE'S WATCHING THOSE TRAPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY REPORTS OF THAT. WHAT I HAVE FOUND WITH TNR RING ON MY OWN BEHALF IS THE MOBILE HOME PARKS ARE MOSTLY WHERE THE TEEN OUR CATS ARE COMING FROM. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'LL AGREES WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM FROM MY STANCE. SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP IS TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS THAT THE CITY TAKES TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS AND THE TNR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DURING THE DISCUSSIONS OVER AREA NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WAS THE AREA THAT HAD THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION ON THAT MAP. IT HAD 17 THE NUMBER 17 ATTACHED TO IT. IN THE ANIMALS THAT WERE SERVICED BY THE CITY. UM THE ANIMAL SERVICES CAN PROVIDE. TRAPS FOR RESIDENTS TO UTILIZE, AND THEN THEY WILL HELP. MOVE THOSE ANIMALS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT WHAT OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A CARETAKER AT EACH COLONY WHO NOT ONLY FEEDS AND WATERS AND MAKE SURE THE CATS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED OUTSIDE, BUT ALSO IF THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED FOR MEDICAL OTHER THAN THE ISSUE THAT WAS POINTED OUT ON THE ON THE REPORT EARLIER WITH THE HEAD TRAUMA UM FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK WE GET A LOT OF COOPERATION FROM THOSE CARETAKERS TO TRANSPORT ANIMALS TO THE SHELTERS OR NOT TO SHELTER EXCUSE ME TO THE VETERINARIANS FOR TREATMENT, ETCETERA. IF THERE'S AN ISSUE OUTSIDE OF THEIR PURVIEW THAT WOULD BE OTHER THAN IF THEY RECOGNIZE SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST THE NORMAL EVERYDAY. YOU KNOW, I GOT HIM. NAIL ON MY PART OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, PENDING ATTACK HIM UPON ANYTHING. WELL THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION . A MOVE THAT WE, UH PLACE THESE ON FILE. STATISTICAL INFORMATION FOR I'M SORRY. GOT OFF. GOT OFF MY THING HERE. THE SECOND QUARTER STATISTICAL INFORMATION FOR SHELTER OPERATIONS. SECOND PROMOTION CARE, MR CHAIR. WE CAN NOW VOTE. AND THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN AND, UH OH. THAT NOW COMPLETES OUR REGULAR AGENDA AND WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR WORK SESSION. AH FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WORK SESSION IS DISCUSSED. THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO CURRENT AND FUTURE FACILITY NEEDS ABOUT FOUR OKAY? AND I ASKED YOU TO PLACE THIS ON THERE SO WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT MAYOR. THE MAYOR MAY OR. NOT MAYOR PORTER MAY OR NOT, MAY NOT BE PLACED ON THE IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR. UM I KNOW WE HAD [00:30:04] DISCUSSED SIX OR SO MONTHS AGO ABOUT GETTING A CONSULTANT AND HAVING THAT MID BUDGET. THE DECISION WAS MADE. BASED ON SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON. THERE WAS A LOT OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT PURCHASING WAS TAKEN CARE OF CONTRACTS AND SO FORTH. THE DECISION WAS MADE TO PUSH IT TO THE PHYSICAL BUDGET THAT WILL START IN OCTOBER THAT $35,000 HAS MADE IT THROUGH ALL THE PROCESSES I'M AWARE OF AT THIS POINT. SO UM, I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL. BUT IT'S STILL IN THE BUDGET SO THAT $35,000 WILL BE FOR A CONSULTANT TO COME OUT AND DO A ANALYSIS OF THE BUILDING. UM AND STAFFING. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE BUDGET TO BE APPROVED AND THEN IT AS YOU KNOW, WHEN GOVERNMENT WORK. UM IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT . WE THEN HAVE TO GO TO REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND SO FORTH. SO IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THAT PROCESS GOING OR PUSH THROUGH THAT OUR PLAN IS TO GET IT DONE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. THE OTHER THING THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IS WE HAD A COMPANY THAT IS DONE BY ANAKIN THROUGH A CONTRACT TO THE CITY AND MANY OTHER CITIES. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE GROUP? THE CONTRACTING GROUP. UM. ANYWAY IT'S A CONTRACTING GROUP THAT WILL COME OUT AND DO THAT THE CITY HAS A CONTRACT WITH IT WILL COME OUT AND DO ESTIMATES AND SO FORTH, AND THEY HAVE LIKE 10 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT THEY WORK WITH. SO WE HAD THEM COME OUT ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, I'D SAY AND THEY DID A WALK THROUGH WITH US AT THE SHELTER. WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER, TOO. SEE WHAT WE COULD DO WITH THE EXISTING SHELL IN THE EXISTING BUILDING TO TRY AND MAKE TRY TO PREVENT HAVING TO SHUT DOWN AS MUCH. THE SHUTTING DOWN THE KATARINA IS DONE FOR REASONS AND FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS. AND HAS TO BE DONE. UM IT'S EDUCATING THE PEOPLE ON WHY WE'RE SHUTTING DOWN. I MEAN, I JUST SENT SHEILA TODAY. WHAT WAS IT AT WHAT CITY WHITE SETTLED OR NOT WHITE SETTLEMENT MIDLOTHIAN , SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S SOME CITY CITY THAT IS SHUTTING DOWN. THEIR ENTIRE ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, BUILDING BECAUSE BARBARA DISTEMPER. UM AND SO PEOPLE THINK. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S DISTEMPER. WHY DO WE HAVE TO SHUT THE BUILDING DOWN? WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO STOP THE INTERACTION AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF, AND I'M LEARNING A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS STUFF, SO SHEILA COULD DO A HECK OF A LOT BETTER JOB EXPLAINING THIS, HOWEVER, SO CITY MANAGER GAVE DIRECTION TO REACH OUT TO THIS COMPANY TO COME OUT AND GET AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT COULD TAKE FOR US TO INCREASE OUR BATTERY SIZE. INCREASE THE QUARANTINE SIZE. UM. FOR SOME OF Y'ALL THAT CAME AND DID A WALKTHROUGH EVEN IN RELATION TO THE OFFICERS, NOT HAVING THE ABILITY OR NOT HAVING AN AREA TO CHANGE. THERE'S ONLY ONE BATHROOM IN THE BUILDING, UM AND SO FORTH. SO WE'RE WAITING ON THAT ESTIMATE TO COME BACK. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME DELAY. TECHNICALLY THEY HAD, LIKE 10 BUSINESS DAYS OR SOMETHING. ONCE WE GOT THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND CHRIS MARON DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WALKING THROUGH WITH US, UM AND ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AND SO FORTH, SO HE GOT THOSE ANSWERED, AND THEN THEY HAVE 10 DAYS. FROM THAT POINT, WE HAD THE HOLIDAYS. AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER. SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT ESTIMATE BACK HERE FAIRLY QUICK, HOPEFULLY, BY THE END OF THE WEEK ONCE WE GET THAT ESTIMATE BACK UM IT WILL BE REVIEWED AND WE'LL SEE WHAT BUDGET ALLOWS, UH, TO BE DONE NEXT YEAR TO INCREASE THE BATTERY, THE QUARANTINE AREA AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CITIZEN FRIENDLY. THE GOAL IS NOT TO MAKE THIS BUILDING HOLE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE GOAL ISN'T WITH. THE GOAL IS TO STILL LOOK AT THAT BUILDING AS THE OPERATIONAL BUILDING. UM AND THEN WORK ON SOMETHING OUT FRONT FOR ADOPTIONS. CITIZEN FRIENDLY STUFF. UM, BUT WE'LL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE CONSULTANT SAYS, UM, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO SEE WHAT THIS ESTIMATE COMES BACK. UM AS WE DID A FULL 54 FACILITY. WE REQUESTED A FULL FACILITY ESTIMATE WHEN WE WALKED AROUND AND GAVE HIM DRAWINGS. UM AS FAR AS BATHROOMS, A BREAK ROOM A COUPLE OF NEW OFFICES, BUT THE GOAL IS TRULY TO FOCUS ON THE BATTERY. THE QUARANTINE AREA THOSE IN TOO. HOW YOU WANT TO SAY TO REUSE THE THOSE CANDLES THAT ARE THOSE CAGE KENNELS THAT ARE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IN THERE, THAT KIND OF LEAD TO THE OUTSIDE THAT WE DON'T REALLY USE. I MEAN, THEY USE IT TO BRING DOGS OVER. I THINK FROM THE DOG RUN IF THEY NEED TO EVERY NOW AND THEN BUT NOW IS TO TURN THOSE INTO QUARANTINE AND CLOSE THEM HAVE ITS OWN. DUCTED AIR AND SO FORTH SO WE CAN REDUCE THE EXPOSURE. SO YOU GET A CAT THAT COMES IN. AND NOW YOU'VE YOU CAN PUT SOME CATS AND X NUMBER OF ROOMS AND IT REDUCES [00:35:05] THE EXPOSURE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE THE WHOLE CATARINA, WHICH THE WHOLE KATARINA IS NEXT TO RIGHT NOW, OUR QUARANTINE ROOM. SO IT'S JUST A SNOWBALL EFFECT. UM THE ADMINISTRATION, THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT. THEY ALL UNDERSTAND THIS. UM AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ASSESSMENT FROM THE CONSULTANT TO COME OUT AND KIND OF GIVE US SOME IDEAS AND WHAT TO WORK THROUGH. THAT WOULD BE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, SO WOULD ALSO ANY RENOVATIONS THAT ARE DONE WITHIN THE BUILDING. UM, WOULD ALSO BE CARRIED OUT IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR IN PLACED IN THIS COMING UP BUDGET DOLLAR AMOUNT HAVEN'T I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SAY I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP COULD SAY THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO. UM AND THIS CAME FROM CITY MANAGER. UM KIND OF AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY NOT ON HIM AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT IT CAME PROBABLY ABOUT 34 WEEKS AGO , OVER A MONTH AND A LITTLE OVER A MONTH, AND IT JUST TOOK US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET WITH THE COMPANY. AND TO GET SOME IDEAS AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM TO DO BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME OUT THERE, ASKING YOU KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT I ACTUALLY REALLY CAN'T ANSWER, AND CHRIS THANKFULLY, COULD ANSWER ABOUT WALLS AND THEY HAVE TO BE WHATEVER THAT MATERIAL IS THE WALLS THAT CAN'T SOAK UP WATER AND THEY CAN SPRAY HIM DOWN ON THE FLOOR HAS GOT TO BE SOMETHING AND UM BUT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SAYING ALL OF THAT WITH THE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD TO ME, AND FOR ALL OF US, IS. IT'S A REALLY EXCITING TIME. I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS AND THERE WAS ONE BUILDING LITTLE BUILDING OVERALL 5 44 WAY BACK IN THE DAY. OBVIOUSLY. THAT WAS A METAL BUILDING ON THE. RIGHT NEXT TO FUZZIES CLOSE TO FUZZIES WHERE THAT SITE IS THAT HAD TO BE CLEANED UP. SO WE HAD A METAL BUILDING OUT THERE AND MAYBE ONE ANIMAL SERVICE PERSON, AND NOW WE'RE AND THEN THEY MOVED OVER INTO THE EXISTING BILL OR THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE IN NOW USED TO BE PUBLIC WORKS. AND THEY SHARED A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT BUILDING AFTER SOME OF THEIR BUILDINGS WERE IMPROVED. SO THE EXCITING TIME IS THAT WHETHER IT HAPPENED . IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. THREE YEARS. FIVE YEARS, HOWEVER, IT'S FUNDED. THERE'S GOING TO BE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PLACED BEFORE BEFORE COUNSELING BEFORE THE CITIZENS ABOUT UM, TAKING CARE OF ANIMAL SERVICES, AND I DON'T MEAN TWO THINGS. I MEAN, REMEMBER ONE IS THEM AS EMPLOYEES. I DON'T MEAN SALARIES . I MEAN, AS A BUILDING IN A PLACE THAT'S NICE IN A PLACE THAT'S COMFORTABLE AND THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BATHROOM AT A PLACE TO CHANGE IF THEY GET SPRAYED BY A SKUNK. BUT IT'S ALSO IT'S TAKING CARE OF THE EMPLOYEE. BUT IT'S ALSO TAKING CARE OF THE ANIMALS, AND IT'S GIVING US MORE FUNCTION. AT THAT BUILDING THAN WHAT IT WAS TRULY ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING OR WHERE WE'RE STARTING. RIGHT NOW, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INPUT AND YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF INPUT. UM IT'S GOING TO TAKE PATIENTS, THOUGH. I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. OVERNIGHT, SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. HAVE A TWO PART QUESTION. MIGHT JUST STOP THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR WHATEVER, BUT DESERVE A HAS THERE BEEN A TRACKING YEAR BY YEAR. POPULATION GROWTH IN THE CITY? ABSOLUTELY. AND HAVING SEEN THE ANGLE AND IT'S GOING UP. OH, AND THEN COMPARING IT TO THE NUMBER OF TIMES. THAT THE FACILITY HAS HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN ON CAPACITY REASONS. WHERE WE LOOKING AT THIS THING, OKAY? IT HASN'T BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR CAPACITY REASONS. IT'S BEEN SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF AND I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. YES ABSOLUTELY. GO RIGHT AT IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE ARE CLOSING, OUR OPERATIONS IS DUE TO DISEASE IS NOT NECESSARILY BASED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE ANIMALS THAT BASED ON THE DISEASE THAT HAS ENTERED OUR FACILITY AND OUR INABILITIES TO HAVE SEPARATE ZONING AREAS TO PUT THE ANIMALS INTO WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR FACILITY. SO IF YOU ARE SHARING AN INTAKE ROOM WITH AN ADOPTION ROOM, YOU CANNOT DO THAT. SO WE DO NOT HAVE A GOOD FEASIBLE WAY TO SEPARATE THE ANIMALS OUT THROUGH THE STAGES IN THE PROCESS OF I HAVE YOU ON DAY ONE. I'M HOLDING YOU FOR YOUR PARENTS FOR SEVEN DAYS. NOW YOU'RE CITY PROPERTY. NOW I GET YOU TO A VET. NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK FROM THE VET AND YOU'RE READY TO ADOPT. YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE SAME ROOM, RIGHT? SO THAT IS OUR ISSUE. OUR ISSUE IS HAVING THE SPACE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, AND I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT ONE ROOM COULD HAVE ONE SICK ANIMAL IN IT, AND THAT INTAKE IS NOW CLOSED BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY [00:40:01] PLACE ELSE TO GO. SO THAT'S WHAT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE NUMBERS PER SE, SO IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE TIME. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GIVING US AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME PROBABLY SOMETIMES CONFUSION WITH QUARANTINING ANIMAL, ISOLATING AN ANIMAL OR CONFINING AN ANIMAL. WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET AT LEAST THREE SEPARATE SPACES THAT HAVE AIR AND AN ANIMAL THAT STRESS ESPECIALLY CATS, THEY GET SICK VERY EASILY WHEN THEY'RE STRESSED SO THEY CAN'T BE. WE CAN'T HAVE A SICK CAT RIGHT NEXT TO A QUARANTINE DOG AREA WE WANT THEY CAN BE NEXT TO THAT. I'M SORRY. THEY CAN BE NEXT TO THAT IF THEY'RE IN A ROOM THAT HAS PROPER VENTILATION THAT HAS SOLID WALLS. THAT CAN BE STRESS FREE. WERE THERE IN THERE BY THEMSELVES, RIGHT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG AREA, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE VENTILATED AND SITE JUST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WEST, MEDICATE THE ANIMAL AND GET IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE I HAVE HER. I HAVE HAD INSTANCES AND IT'S BEEN ASKED BEFORE FROM OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, LIKE WE'LL PUT THEM IN FOSTER WILL FOSTERS HAVE ANIMALS . THEY ALREADY HAVE CATS. WE CAN'T GIVE THEM A SICK CAT. THEY CAN'T DO THAT. SHE HEARD. SO YES , FAIR. HE'S THE BOARD MEMBER. BETTER THAT I GET ASKED A SALAT OF THESE QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE BEEN WITH THIS CITY FOR 17 YEARS. SO MY ANSWER TO YOU IS YES. I HAVE SEEN THE POPULATION GROWTH. AND THAT FACILITY HAS NOT GROWN CAPACITY FOR ANIMALS IN 17 YEARS. I CAN TESTIFY TO THAT. SO I WILL TELL YOU. IT'S REALLY NOT. WE HAVE THOUGHT OUTSIDE THE BOX. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT'S NECESSARY. SAYS ME TAKING ON THAT SHELTER WE HAVE WENT ON TO NOW WE'RE STERILIZING REVENGING. WE ARE VERY, VERY PROACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I HAVE SOME OF THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE PEOPLE UP THERE, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH WHAT WE CAN WORK WITH. I MEAN, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE MOUNTAINS AND I 100% I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT MY JOB. I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE LONGEST NAME PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN HERE DOING IT. AND I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE IN AND I BELIEVE IN MY PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR ME, SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT BUILDING REPRESENTS US. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO THEIR VERY BEST. THEY ARE BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPTIONS. THAT'S WHY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE RENOVATIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, LIEUTENANTS TRYING TO SAY IT'S NOT A FIX ALL WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THAT BUILDING WHOLE FOR WHAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO BE . IN OUR FUTURE. THAT TEAM IS GOING TO TELL US WHERE YOU AT NOW. WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BE? WHAT DO YOU NEED? BECAUSE I'M NOT TELLING MY LIFE I'D LIKE TO HAVE LIKE A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING CAUSE YOU KNOW, I LOVE ANIMALS. THAT'S A WASTE OF TAXPAYERS MONEY, RIGHT, SO THAT'S WHERE THAT TEAM COMES IN TO SAY. SNAP IT DOWN. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED. THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE HEALTHY AND HERE'S YOUR GOALS. AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE GREAT. AND I THINK WE WAIT AND SEE WHERE OUR COUNCIL GOES WITH THAT GET THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THAT AND ALLOW THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD. ON THE OTHER END. COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDING NO MATTER WHERE WE GO, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA NEED INTAKE AREA AND WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO AN ADOPTION AREA. SO IF WE TRY TO INVEST IN WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS THE INTAKE AREA AND WE LOOK AT HOPEFULLY GETTING THAT ADOPTION AREA. MAYBE WE CAN MOVE EVERYTHING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE HIT YOUR BUTTON, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NORMALLY IF YOU GO INTO THE POPULATION MOST PEOPLE I DON'T BELIEVE UNDERSTAND. THE STRESS. THAT THE ANIMALS GO THROUGH. ON JUST SHORT STAYS. BUT IF THEY'RE IN IN A LONG STAY, IT CHANGES THEIR WHOLE PERSONALITY. NOT FOR THE BETTER. SO I THINK EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE STAYS AS LONG AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE. AH THAT'S GOING TO BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ALRIGHT, ANYBODY? HEY! GO AHEAD. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THAT. OKAY WE'LL MOVE BACK INTO OUR REGULAR SESSION. AND THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS. OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MR CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND THAT MUSHROOM. NOW VOTE. YOU'RE THERE. [00:45:09] OKAY LET'S LET'S JUST DO A SHOW OF HANDS. LET'S RAISE YOUR HAND IF YES TO A JOURNEY. AND THE MOTION PASSES 70. WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6 46. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.