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REMEMBER WHAT I'M DOING HERE? THIS TIME WE'LL CALL TO ORDER THE WILY HISTORIC REVIEW
[Historic Review Commission]
COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR JUNE 22ND 2023. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC STANDS ONE NATION. WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FRAUD. JOE, YOU LATER. SEN INVOCATION. THIS IS ALREADY. JEREMY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US ALL TOGETHER EVERY DAY. DO THE WORK. IS YOUR GARDEN. LORD BE WITH THE CITY.AND BE WITH US AS WE ALL GO ON LEAVE. CAN YOU BREAK MAN. AT THIS TIME. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, EITHER FROM THE COMMISSION OR FROM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC. NO.
BOB, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? NO. NO, NOT YET. YEAH. AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM ADAM, A CONSIDER AN ACT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 25TH 2023 MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THEM HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. CORRECTIONS. OKAY IF THERE ARE $9 ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. IN THE LAST WEEK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR CAST YOUR VOTE.
NOW WE'LL GO INTO. NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I DON'T KNOW. ONE CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 105, WEST JEFFERSON WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. YES, MADAM.
CHAIRMAN SO THIS ITEM IS IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT IS THE BUILDING. THAT'S KINDA ATTACHED. KINDA NOT ATTACHED TO THE WILY METHODIST CHURCH AT THE CORNER OF JACKSON AND JEFFERSON.
SO THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS PROPOSING TO MAKE SO MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXTERIOR.
UM BUT THE PAINT MATERIALS AND ALL THAT WILL BE COMPATIBLE. I'LL PUT IT LIKE THAT. TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AND BE COMPATIBLE TO THE CHURCH AS WELL. UM CHAIRWOMAN. STONE HAD ASKED FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR ORIGINAL PACKET, SO WE DID SEND THOSE NOTES OUT TO YOU AND THE HEATS ARE HERE ALSO. SO IF I MISQUOTE SOMETHING, BECAUSE I JUST PULLED IT OFF COLIN CAT. IF I MISS QUOTE SOMETHING WHEN YOU COME UP, YOU CAN CORRECT ME. UM BUT SO THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1924. THE PREVIOUS OWNERS HAVE BEEN WILDLY METHODIST CHURCH WHILE THE BIBLE CHURCH AND NOW CURRENTLY, UH, MR HEAT THERE WAS A REPLAY, SO IT'S WHERE THE CHURCH BUILDING SITS. THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING BEHIND IT. AND THEN WHERE THE SUBJECT BUILDING THAT THE SUBJECT OF THIS AGENDA SITS IN 2013. THAT WAS ALL REPLANTED TO COMBINE IT AS ONE LOT. UM THE METHODIST CHURCH ADDED ABOUT 1000 LITTLE OVER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE TO THEIR EXISTING BUILDING AND I JUST WANTED ALL PLATTERS AS ONE WELL, THEN AGAIN IN 2022. THERE WAS ANOTHER REPLANT THAT CAME THROUGH THAT ACTUALLY SEPARATED THE CHURCH'S LOT. FROM THE 105 JEFFERSON, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT JUST DIVIDED THOSE INTO TWO LOTS. UM THERE WAS NO WORK DONE. THEY JUST SEPARATED. I'M SURE MAYBE 22 FOR THE HEAT TO PURCHASE IT OR FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY. WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN HIS IF YOU YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKET, LILLIAN, ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL THE. ALSO THE
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PACKETS NOT ALREADY BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A NEW SYSTEM, SO I DON'T KNOW. OKAY? OKAY, BUT YOU ALL HAVE YOURS. UM HAVE YOURS IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE EXISTING FOR ESCAPE, WHICH IS NOT TO CODE. AND REPLACE THAT FEW EXTRA EXTERIOR DOORS AND ADDING SOME WINDOWS. UM EVEN THE WINDOWS THAT ARE BEING ADDED. DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRUE LOOK OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE IT DOES MATCH THE EXISTING WINDOWS THAT ARE THERE. UM LET'S SEE. A WOOD FENCE IS BEING PROPOSED AGAIN. IT WILL MATCH UM THE WINDOWS WILL BE ALUMINUM FRAME, AND THEN THERE'S SOME COLOR BEING ADDED TO THE TOP. I DON'T KNOW. OR YOUR LAPTOPS COLOR. HMM. OKAY SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL IS. AND AS FAR AS THE USES FOR THE INTERIOR. THERE'S A T SHIRT SHOP THAT IS GOING IN, AND I BELIEVE A REAL ESTATE AGENT. UH INDIVIDUAL, UM, BUSINESS OWNER THAT WANTS TO TAKE THE TOP FLOOR. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. SO RENEE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS THIS PICTURE HERE. THIS SAYS THAT THERE'S AN ADDED WINDOW HERE AND THEN ADDED WINDOW HERE. THAT WINDOW THERE IS GOING TO IMPEDE ON THIS. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THIS. I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE CAN CAN MR HE COME UP? BUG. THE PICTURE MAKES IT YES, THE PICTURE MAKES IT UM . I'M GONNA GO DOWN HERE SO I CAN SHOCK SINCE WE DON'T HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.SO SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THIS WINDOW. BUT IF I COULD THIS THIS PART OF THE FACADE ACTUALLY EXTENDS OUT BEYOND THE BUILDING FACE, DOESN'T IT? SO IT DOES. THIS WINDOW WILL NOT AFFECT THIS PART OF THE FACADE WILL NOT KNOW. OKAY DID YOU HEAR THAT? BECAUSE THE PICTURE BEING CUT DOWN INTO THAT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE LIKE THE MAIN FACADE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT THE AESTHETIC PART OF THE FACADE. STICKS OUT LIKE THAT. SO THERE IS YOU SEE, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE FLOOR PLAN BECAUSE HE HEARS A WANTED YOU TO DO WAS OF IT, AND I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WINDOW IS GOING TO SEE HOW MUCH HEART IS ABOVE THAT WINDOW. SO. HALFWAY BE COVERED. YES, YES. AND THE WINDOWS ARE THE SAME STYLE AS THE CURRENTLY ARE THERE, SO NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. WINDOW WISE. FROM THAT. BUT WE HAVE. AH WE'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY GOT THE BUILDING LEASED. AND THE TENANT THAT'S MOVING UPSTAIRS. UM THERE WAS A NEED FOR A WINDOW UP ABOVE. JUST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT WAS A ROOM THAT HAD NO WINDOWS AT ALL, AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE A WINDOW. SO. AND WHERE IS THE DOOR THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED RENE ON THAT FRONT. THE FRONT PART FOR THE DOOR THAT GOES UPSTAIRS. WELL, JUST FOR THE GOES IN DOWNSTAIRS. UM IT'S THE ONE THAT HAS KIND OF THE ARCH. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE LITTLE IF YOU SEE THE ON THE PICTURE THERE , THEY ARCH ON THE LEFT. THE DOOR IS TO THE LEFT OF THAT.
THAT ARCH IS ACTUALLY IN THE FACADE THAT WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, SO IT'S THE DOORS BACK IN BEHIND IT. MHM. THEN THERE'S A NEW DOOR AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THERE, AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO UPSTAIRS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO THE OTHER. THE DOWNSTAIRS PART OF THE BUILDING. BECAUSE WHEN THIS WAS BUILT IT WAS BUILT FOR ONE FOR THE CHURCH. AND THEY WANTED AND SO WHEN YOU GO IN THE DOOR YOU JUST WOULDN'T DO THE CHURCH BUILDING. YEAH IT WAS. IT WAS SUNDAY SCHOOL ROOMS AND REC
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ROOMS AND THAT KIND OF A THING. BOB WHAT DO YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I DO WHAT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. WE DIDN'T DO THAT. IN THE BEGINNING, ROBERT HEATH.201 NORTH BALLARD AVENUE. WYLIE, TEXAS. SO UM, I JUST WANT TO SHOW I'LL SHOW IT OFF. THE ARCH PART. THE DOOR.
I'M SORRY, MIKE SARONG. YEAH, I DON'T. COURSE PLEASE. MIKE WAS GREEN, BUT NOBODY ELSE'S WAS RED, SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. THERE YOU GO. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE JUST HAD SOME TECH WORK DONE TO THE MIX AND THINGS WE DID DIDN'T GET THEY DIDN'T GET PUT INTO THE SYSTEM. SO THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE THAT DIDN'T WORK, AND THEY SAID, OH, WE'LL GET IT FIXED, BUT THEY HAVEN'T SO YEAH. PROBABLY THE ONLY GUY IN WYLIE THAT YOU CAN USE IS I'M SO ALRIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS DROPPING ACROSS THE BUILDING. THE STRIPING. YEAH. OKAY, UM I HAVE THE ARCHITECT. STANDING BY ON THE PHONE. I COULD CALL HIM MY SON, BOBBY AND MY OTHER SON, DANNY, ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY OWNED THE BUILDING. BOBBY IS IN EUROPE WITH HIS WIFE . THEY'RE DOING A HIS WIFE'S IN ACQUIRING. THEY'RE DOING A CONCERT TOUR OVER THERE IN EUROPE, SO HE COULDN'T BE HERE TO THE MEETING. NO, I THIS IS IMPORTANT AND SO ANYWAY. SO THE ARCHITECT IS ON STANDBY. I CAN GET HIM ON THE SPEAKER PHONE AND WE CAN ASK HIM. MAYBE THIS QUESTION. UM AND HE IS IN WASHINGTON, D. C. HIS NAME IS CHANCE, HEATH AND HE'S ALSO A GRADUATE OF WILDLY HIGH SCHOOL. BUT HE IS AN ARCHITECT WORKING FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM THERE AND HAS HIS MASTERS AND SOUNDS LIKE A GRANDPA. THAT'S FOR REAL PROUD. I'M SORRY. OKAY, UM. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER DANDY YOU KNOW WHY YOU PUT THE FACEBOOK COLORS STRIKES. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COLORS IN THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT BUILDING LOOK UM, SIGNAGE IS ONE THING, BUT THIS STRAP I MEAN, IT'S CONNECTED TO A CHURCH AND RIGHT NOW. MY NAME IS DANIEL HEATH. BY THE WAY, I LIVE AT 301 WEST BROWN IN THE LITTLE BLUE HOUSE OVER HERE. UM RIGHT NOW THE EXTERIORS TO TONE. IT'S BURGUNDY AT THE TOP AND TAN AT THE BOTTOM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE STRIPES ARE, THEREFORE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT PINSTRIPES ON THERE. I THINK THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PAINTING THAT READ LIKE BRICK RED, THE COLOR OF THE BUILDING. OF THE EXTERIOR BUILDING. WHAT DO WE LOOK? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? I THINK IT WAS JUST ADD SOME ACCENT TO IT. OKAY, ALRIGHT . I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, OKAY? SHE'S GOT A GOOD PICTURE THERE, OKAY? YEAH YEAH. YEAH I THINK I THINK THAT THE LAST I HEARD DID YOU KNOW IT WAS HIM TALKING ABOUT PAINTING THE WHOLE THING? JUST BRICK RED, BUT SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PAINTINGS THERE'S SOME RUST. AND THAT'S THAT'S ADDRESSED IN YOUR NOTES. UM THERE'S SOME RUST ON THE BUILDING AND IF WE CAN'T IF THEY CAN'T REMOVE IT BY EITHER CHEMICAL OR POWER WASHING THAT THEN THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE TO MAYBE PAINTED A BRICK RED THAT WOULD MATCH THE CHURCH. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK BETTER IF IT WAS A CREAM THE WAY IT IS NOW. I'M SORRY, MA'AM. I THINK IT WOULD
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BE MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THE REST THE REST AREA THAT FACADE IF IT WERE PAINTED A CREAM, NOT A BRICK RED. BREAD BREAD IS GOING TO BE VERY HARSH. OKAY? ALRIGHT, A LIGHTER RED. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID A TAN SIMILAR TO THE WAY IT IS NOW A MORE NATURAL NEUTRAL COLOR. CREAM TYPE CREAM. OKAY, STATES RIGHT HERE. THE EXTERIOR AGGREGATE IS STAINED WITH RUST. THEIR GOAL IS . TO DO WHATEVER FEASIBLY POSSIBLE POWER WASH SCRUB CHEMICAL CLEANING TO BRING BACK THE PORTION OF THE FACADE. THE ORIGINAL STATE. SO IT SAYS FAILING THIS AGGREGATE WILL BE PAINTED. SAME COLOR AS CHURCH BRICK TO TIE THE TWO TOGETHER. OKAY? WELL THE LAST I HEARD WAS THAT THEY WERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PAINTING IT ALL RED SO THAT IT KIND OF MATCH THE CHURCH, BUT SHE SAYS SHE LIKES THE TAN RED CHURCHES, BRICK AND THIS IS STUCK OUT, RIGHT? I KNOW, BUT WE'RE THAT COLOR. THE COLOR IS WHAT I'M THINK THAT A CINNAMON COLORED STUCCO IS GOING TO BE VERY HARSH. OKAY, PERSONALLY, THAT'S MY AESTHETIC OPINION. WELL, WE'RE. WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORICAL PART OF THE CHIP. DOWNTOWN YOU PROBABLY ALL KNOW THAT. THAT'S HOW WE OPERATE. EXCEPT WHERE YOU GUYS SAID AT ONE TIME, SO I UNDERSTAND. OKAY? I BET YOU IF YOU ASKED TO WASH IT, THOUGH, A LOT OF BETCHA IT'LL COME OUT NICE. I WOULD BET YOU IF YOU ACID WASH IT, IT WILL CLEAN UP NICELY. YEAH. AND THEN IS THERE A BACK OF THE BUILDING? IS THIS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT AND THIS IS THIS WORTH SOME WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. I DIDN'T TAKE A PICTURE OF THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, BUT THIS IS THE BEST. IS THIS THE BACK OF THE ALLEY. THIS IS THE WHAT I CALL THE FRONT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SIDE OF THE CHURCH BUILDINGS. THE BACK IS THIS BECAUSE THE FACT THAT WE'RE THE STATE DOWN THE BACK BACK THIS BACKS UP TO THE STORE. THAT'S RIGHT THERE. IS THAT WHAT I'M THINKING GAS STATION? YES UH HUH. YEAH. SO WHAT IS? WHAT IS THIS? I I'M I'M NOT LOOKING AT HER COMPUTER. I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT SO THE FRONT IS THE JEFFERSON SIDE. SO ASIDE, WENT BACK UP TO THE GAS. YES WHERE IS THIS? IS THIS THE SIDE THEN? AND THAT'S THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.CORRECT? OKAY? IN OUR DAYS, WINDOWS ALL THERE OR THEY'RE GOING TO THESE, ER. I THINK THESE ARE ALL THERE. THIS IS REPLACED, GLAZED OPENING WITH DOUBLE DOORS. SO ON THE SIDE, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A DOUBLE DOOR AT THE BACK ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, OKAY? MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS THE ARCHES. YES ANY OF THAT DESTROYED BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE RIGHT PART. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT LOOKS MID CENTURY DOWNTOWN. EXCEPT THAT SO THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING TOUCHED. UM. I NEVER KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT ALUMINUM WINDOWS. YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE OLD HOUSE WITH THE WOOD SASH WINDOWS, SO I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT. ALUMINUM WINDOWS, BUT I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY DO, AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. MR HEATH. WHAT COLOR WOULD THE ALUMINUM FRAME OF THE WINDOWS B. THIS IS A TILT UP BUILDING. SO YOU HAVE A FEW FAMILIAR WITH THAT TERM OF CONSTRUCTION. IT'S ALL CONCRETE POURED AND THEN THE WALLS ARE BROUGHT UP. SO THE WALLS ARE THIS THICK. SO, UM THE. NEW FRAMES. THAT WILL BE PUT INTO THE WINDOWS. UM WILL BE WEATHERPROOF AND I'LL TELL YOU THE TRUTH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALUMINUM. OR IF THEY'RE WOOD FRAME, BUT I'M GUESSING BECAUSE NOW THERE AH. THE ENERGY SAVING TYPE WINDOWS. THAT WILL BE GOING IN THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE ENERGY SAVING FRAMES AS WELL. MY QUESTION IS MORE. UM I'M GONNA GUESS THAT FOR THEM TO BE ENERGY SAVING AND WHAT EVEN PELLET DOESN'T REALLY DO MUCH WOULD ANYMORE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. IF THEY'RE ALUMINUM. USUALLY THERE ARE COLOR. SO WOULD THEY BE BLACK OR BRONZE OR CREAM OR I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. UM. I CAN SAY THIS THAT IT WOULD BE. IF WE HAVE A CHOICE
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OF COLORS, IT WILL BE IT WILL BE A PERIOD COLOR. WE WILL TRY TO KEEP THIS BUILDING AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN PERIOD AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT AND MANY MANY, UH DIFFERENT LOOKS.TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. UM AND THEN SO I. I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T BUT IT WILL LOOK PERIOD. I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT. THE CURRENT FRAMES THAT ARE IN THERE RIGHT NOW ARE THE ALUMINUM COLOR. JUST F Y I UM AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY BUILT BUILDINGS WITH AT THE TIME THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED, UM THE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE WINDOWS IS THE WINDOWS WILL THEY BE COMPLETELY OPEN? LIKE WITHOUT ANY MILLIONS. WITHOUT ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, GRID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE ALL OPEN. BUT THEY'RE NOT WINDOWS THAT CAN OPEN ALL FIXED, OKAY? THEY KNEW WINDOWS WILL BE TEMPERED. WHICH THE OLD WINDOWS WERE NOT SO THE CASE SOMEBODY WERE TO ACCIDENTALLY BUMP UP AGAINST ONE FALL OUT OR SOMETHING. IT WILL NOT BREAK. IT WAS SHATTERED. BOB WHAT IS THE WHAT'S THE MATERIAL OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS? OF THE EXISTING ONE AT THE EXISTING WINDOWS IN THE BUILDING. ALUMINUM AND GLASS. YEAH THERE'S NO WOOD WINDOWS IN. NOT THAT WE KNOW OF ALUMINUM. YES, YES, THEY ARE. YOUR QUESTION. IF I UNDERSTAND IT WAS. IS IT GOING TO BE TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS OR THESE, LIKE JUST FLUSH BECAUSE IT'S STUCCO. LIKE THEIR INSET WHERE THERE'S NO TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS. THEY HAVE TO SET THE GLASS IN SOMETHING SO IT DOESN'T JUST IT WON'T BE ON THE BUILDING , NOT NOT AROUND THE AROUND THE, UH, NO. IT'LL BE KIND OF LIKE THE EXISTING ONE. JUST THE METAL FRAME THAT THAT HOLDS THE GLASS IN. OKAY RIGHT NOW THAT THOSE MIDDLE FRAMES ARE ACTUALLY THEIR SILVER ALUMINUM, I THINK IS WHAT THEY ARE. YEAH AND WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT US AT COLOR ON THOSE? I THINK THAT MAYBE IT WAS WHAT SHE WAS ASKING. DO WE KNOW LIKE ME. I THINK THEY COME SILVER, BUT THE COLOR OF THE GLASS EITHER CLEAR OR SLIGHTLY TINTED , NOT THE GLASS. THE FRAME OF THE WINDOW FRAME. IS IT GOING TO STAY SILVER? IS IT GONNA BE BLACK FRAME WINDOWS. IS IT GOING TO BE. THERE IS IT'S STILL IT'S SILVER. ALUMINUM IS WHAT'S HOLDING THEM IN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. AND I ASSUMED THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH. BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR A FACT. YEAH I THINK I THINK AS LONG AS WE CAN STAY MATCHING WHAT'S IN THERE NOW? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST.
YEAH THINK THAT INSTEAD OF CHANGING OR YOU DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK DISJOINTED, SO YOU DON'T HAVE WINDOWS THAT HAVE A FRAME IN ONE COLOR AND THEN WINDOWS. YEAH IT WOULD NEED. TO COHESIVE . HMM I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION . UH WHAT IS THE STYLE OF THE DOORS THAT WOULD BE ADDED UM.
AGAIN, THEY PROBABLY WILL BE. I'M GUESSING THERE WILL BE PERIOD. IF NOT EARLIER. UM, LOOK . SO PERIOD AND STYLE ARE NOT ONLY IN THE SIXTIES, THEY WEREN'T VERY DECORATIVE. RIGHT THAT THIS BUILDING IS MORE KIND OF A SPANISH ARCHITECTURE WITH THE ARCHWAYS. IT'S A KIND OF A MUTT. IT'S LIKE MODERN BUT SPANISH, BUT NOT YOU KNOW WHAT MEDICINE CHERIE TYPE? I MEAN TO ME THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN MISSING. WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT'S NOT JUST A METAL FRAME. COMMERCIAL AND THESE WILL BE ATTRACTIVE DOORS IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF MY BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN , YOU'LL SEE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS UM DO WELL OR THE DOORS. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN BUSINESS, IT NEEDS TO BE ATTRACTIVE. AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE DOOR ON PAGE 14. IF YOU HAVE THE CENTURY MONITORING SO
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GRANDSON ON THE PHONE, BETTER BE OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S A MID CENTURY DOOR. THAT'S A MID CENTURY DOOR. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. ALL THE DOORS LOOK LIKE THAT ALL THE DOORS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS. LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE TWO DOUBLE DOORS AT THE BACK OF THE BUILDING OR SAD. I'M SORRY SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THAT WILL BE METAL DOORS. THOSE ARE THE FIRE ESCAPE DOORS. ARE THEY NOT KNOW? OKAY RIGHT HERE. THOSE ARE DOORS THAT WOULD BE FOR LOADING. AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF CRIME IN THIS AREA ALONG THIS ALLEY. UM VANDALISM. GUYS. GOING IN AND STAY IN THERE. UM. AND SO WE EVEN HAD SOME WINDOWS HAVE BEEN BROKEN. AND, UM SO WE HAVE A THE TENANT THAT'S GOING DOWNSTAIRS AS A HE'S ALREADY DOWNTOWN IN WYLIE. HE DOES THE T SHIRTS AND HE, UM WE'LL HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND THEY HAVE INVENTORY AND SHIPMENTS GOING OUT. SO THEY NEEDED SOMETHING AND RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR. UM, IT WAS EASIER TO HAVE A BACKDOOR SORT OF SPEAK. AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S THE ONE THING. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT. NOT AT PROPOSED. BUT IT'S BUT IT'S OLLIE FACING THE ALLEY. YEAH. AND SO IT WOULD BE A DOUBLE SET OF STEEL DOORS. THE OTHER QUESTIONS. GREAT. HMM. UM ARE THEY IS THERE SOMETHING GOING TO BE FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THE BUILDING IN CASE THERE'S A FIRE OR WATER. YEAH FIRE ESCAPE.THAT'S WHAT? YEAH I WASN'T SURE THAT WAS STAYING SO, YEAH. YEAH. AND THERE'S A FIRE ESCAPE THERE NOW. YES BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE THIS BUILDING. UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT. UM. JOHN LEWIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW JOHN LEWIS, BUT HE'S AHEAD OF THE BIRMINGHAM TRUST AND AS A KID. HE SAID. THEY WOULD GO OUT ON THAT FIRE ESCAPE, AND IT'S A SLIDE AND HE WOULD SLIGHTLY ALL THE KIDS WOULD SLIDE DOWN IT. UM BUT THE CHURCH THAT'S NOW CHURCH PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE TO PUT OUR OWN. FAR ESCAPE IN AND SO IT IT . UM IT'LL COME OUT. IT'LL GO DOWN IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ONTO OUR PROPERTY. BUT THERE WILL BE A FENCE THERE THAT KIND OF SORT OF HIDES, AT LEAST AT GROUND LEVEL. SLIDE BACK IN. MHM YEAH, YEAH, SLIGHTLY. ARE YOU THERE? IT WOULD BE FUN, THOUGH.
OKAY HANG ON. YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DOORS. THE TWO DOORS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, SO THERE'S ONE THAT SETS BACK RIGHT INSIDE. AND THEN THE ONE THAT YOU'RE ADDING BOTH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO MATCH THIS DOOR CORRECT. THEY ARE GOING TO BE MATCHING DOORS. DOORS ARE GONNA OKAY. THERE IS A PICTURE OF THE FRONT DOORS, HUH? BOTH OF THOSE DOORS WERE MATCHED, CORRECT? YES OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH BECAUSE THEY'RE SO THAT GIVES YOU THAT'S RIGHT. GIVES YOU A PICTURE OF SOLID SOLIDARITY THERE. THE CHANCE. YES, SIR. UM . YEAR BEFORE THE COMMITTEE NOW AND THEY ARE THE COMMISSION. UM OH, HIS NAME IS CHANCE, HEATH.
CHANCE. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? YOUR 9 TO 5 SOUTH WOODSTOCK STREET. ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA.
OKAY THANKS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THERE WAS A COLOR. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE COLOR OF THE STRIPES AT THE TOP. YES. OKAY, UM. CAN YOU TELL US? WHAT KIND OF WHY YOU WENT WITH THAT? WELL, THE STRIPES WERE TWO VERY NEAT CHARACTER. AND HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF ARCHITECTURAL AND VISUAL.
INTEREST AT THE TOP. AND THEN THAT WOULD PAIR WELL WITH THE SIGNAGE. HOWEVER, WE ALSO. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING THAT BE A SOLID COLOR COLOR BECAUSE THEY THE BOARD FOUND IT TOO PROBLEMATIC. BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS MAYBE AN INTERESTING AND VALUABLE AD.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST HANG IN THERE. YEAH. NO WORRIES. OH, OKAY. UM FOR THE COLORS, ARE
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THEY THE HISTORICAL PALATE STILL DO THEY FIT WITHIN THAT FOR THE ACCIDENT COLORS? UM IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO THE COLORS? AND HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH HIM? SO OUR COLORING WAS BASED ON A FEW DIFFERENT PRESIDENTS. SINCE THE BUILDING IS SORT OF FLAT AND UM VERY GEOMETRIC AND ITS SHAPE. WE LOOKED AT LEWISVILLE ARROGANT. WE LOOKED AT. UM, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LOOKOUT.BORETTI. IN DALLAS. HE DID A HE'S THE SPANISH CULTURAL CENTER OR THE I'M SORRY. THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER. IN DALLAS, WHERE THEY SORT OF HAVE THESE VERY FLAT, EARTHY LIGHT TONES.
AND THAT'S BASED ON 19 SIXTIES ARCHITECTURE AGAIN, FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD GEOMETRIC THAT USED A LOT OF PLASTER. SO WE WERE TAKING INSPIRATION FROM THAT. SO THE INTENTION WAS THAT THE COLOR PALETTE WOULD BE VERY LIGHT, PASTEL AND EARTHY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT I'M SAYING IS BLUE AND ORANGE, AND I DON'T. I THINK THAT WHAT'S BOTHERSOME TO ME IS THE THIN STRIPE. THEY ALMOST LOOK LIKE PENN STRAP. AND THEN JUST THE COLOR. MAYBE IF THERE WAS. MAYBE TWO STRAPS THAT WERE THICKER. I MEAN, I JUST IT JUST SEEMS. I THINK IT'S SOLID, BUT, YEAH, I MEAN, I LIKE THE COLOR THAT'S THERE. NOW THAT RUST THAT'S KIND OF RUSTY COLOR AT THE TOP. UM, EVEN IF YOU LEFT THAT BOTTOM PART, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEIGE, HOW IT IS, AND IF IT CLEANS UP WELL, EVEN IF YOU PUT A BASS STRIPED THROUGH THE RUSTY COLOR AT THE TOP, JUST TO HAVE SOME SPLIT. IT WOULD STILL BE MORE TOGETHER. IT SEEMS LIKE CAN YOU HEAR ANY OF THAT CHANCE? I CAN. YEAH I MEAN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IS HAVING THE COLORS TO BE A LITTLE BIT. UM TRUE OR TWO? WE DO. WE DID WANT TO REFLECT SORT OF THAT LIGHT EACH AGAIN EARTHY LIKE HORNS, EXISTING COLOR, AND THE IDEA WAS TO BRING MORE ATTENTION TO THE TOP. BUT WE CAN ALSO TONE DOWN THE TOP. WE COULD MAKE IT A SOLID COLOR BAND. AND MAYBE MAKE IT LESS VIBRANT. TO SORT OF MATCH THAT MORE AGAIN, EARTHY AND TONED, DOWN COLOR SCHEME. IN THE SIGNAGE AND WHAT ALL I'M SEEING RIGHT HERE IS ONE OF FIVE WEST SO IS THAT, LIKE THE ADDRESS SIGN, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE BUILDING FOR WHAT? THE ADDRESSES. BUT THEN WHAT IS THE SIGNAGE GOING TO BE? DO WE KNOW YET FOR THE ACTUAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE? AS FAR AS THE SIGNAGE? WE USUALLY THEY'RE UP TO THE TENANTS. UM, AND THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY THE SIGN. ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE. AND SO , UM, SO THEY'LL COME BEFORE TO GET THEIR OWN. YES THAT'S RIGHT. THEY WILL. WE'LL HAVE AN AD. WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THERE WILL BE A THE ADDRESS, BUT IT WILL BE SMALL AND NOT HUGE. AND, YEAH, DO YOU KNOW WHICH COLORS CHANCES ON THAT WE COULD. MAYBE TODAY. YOU SAY YOU DO OR YOU DON'T.
THE BUILDING IS MID CENTURY. IT'S MORE STRAIGHT LINES CONTEMPORARY. NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT IF YOU WILL ACCEPT THE ARCHWAYS IN THE FACADE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS VERY GEOMETRIC. I LIKE THE STRIPES. AND I DON'T MIND. I DON'T MIND THE COLORS, BUT UM THEY MAY NOT
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BE PART OF THE HISTORICAL PALETTE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. UM . I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THOSE COLORS IN MY WIDE RANGE OF HISTORICAL COLORS. UM SO IT WOULD NOT BE VERY HARD TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THAT BOTH COLORS. YEAH. SHERMAN WILLIAMS HAS GOT UH UM. ACTUALLY TWO SETS OF HISTORICAL COLORS. I DO THINK THAT THE STRIPES INITIALLY I DIDN'T LIKE IT. BUT I'VE CHANGED MY MIND. YOU'RE A WOMAN. YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? MY HUSBAND. HE'LL TELL YOU, UM, BUT I THINK IT WOULD DEFINITELY BRING MORE INTEREST TO THE FIRST TO THE OUTSIDE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. UM, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A COMPLETE CHANGE FROM THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR THAT'S ALMOST ATTACHED TO IT. THAT'S KIND OF THE WEIRD PART ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION I FEEL LIKE THE STRIPE THIS THE COLORS AND THE STRIPES. THE STRIPES BRING ALMOST A CIRCUS TONE TO IT. THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SEEING IN MY MIND OF 7 11 KIND OF CIRCUS TOWN AND TO PUT THAT ON THE BUILDING THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE CHURCH, FOR ME IS A LITTLE DISRESPECT. I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING HONEST. UM I LIKE THE RUST COLOR. THAT'S THERE. NOW IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT AND EVEN PLAY WITH THAT, AND MAYBE ANOTHER COLOR TO OFFSET IF YOU'RE WARNING, LIKE A TWO TONE KIND OF THING, BUT THIS ORANGEY COLOR AND THE BLUE I JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME, BUT I'M ONLY ONE CHANCE. YES, MA'AM, THIS IS ANITA. UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE US A RENDERING LIKE A MORE REALISTIC RENDERING THAN THE SKETCH THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DOCUMENTATION. SURE. YEAH I DON'T KNOW. WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? I DON'T THINK I'LL CHANGE MY MIND ON THE COLORS. BUT TO SEE STRAP PERIOD, MAYBE WITH SOME DIFFERENT COLORS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET MIGHT LOOK BETTER. I JUST MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE LESS FOLD AND MORE ARTHUIS, RIGHT? OKAY YEAH, WE CAN. YOU KNOW WE CAN USE THE COLORS AND LIKE I SAID FOR HAPPENING. HOW'S THE WHAT'S THE TEMPERATURE ON THE RIGHTS? DO YOU FEEL IS APPROPRIATE OR IS THERE IS THERE A FEELING OF WANTING TO TELL THEM THOSE DOWN AS WELL. SO I LIKE THE STRIPES. UM PERSONALLY, UM. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, THOUGH, BUT YEAH, I DO LIKE THE STRIPES. I LIKE THE COLORS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM REFLECTED AND IN THAT HISTORICAL PALETTE IF WE CAN JUST MATCH THAT, BECAUSE IT IS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT. DURING THAT PERIOD. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING MATCHES AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR TENANTS ARE COMMERCIAL TENANTS, AND YOU DO WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THEIR BUILDING RIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAVE WALK IN TRAFFIC, SO UM SO I UNDERSTAND THAT I DO THINK OF RENDERING MIGHT BE HELPFUL, THOUGH, IF WE SEEK CAN SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE NEXT TO THE CHURCH. OKAY? OKAY? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE MORE DEFINITE. THINGS TO GO ON.I KNOW THAT I APOLOGIZE. I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU REALLY WANT. BUT I FOUND IT HARD FOR ME TO MAKE A REAL DECISION. WHAT? I CAN'T REALLY SEE WHAT I'M MAKING A DECISION ON FOR MYSELF NOW. SO I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT UNTIL WE GET THE RENDERING UNTIL WE HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS THE COLORS AND THE STRIPES. AND IF THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO. I WAS SECOND THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. YOUR VOTE.
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THINGS LIKE, KILL IT. SO THIS SUPERIOR OVER TO THE NEXT MEDIA ARE OUR NEXT MEETING. BUT OKAY.27TH CHANCE. I'M GONNA CUT YOU OFF NOW QUESTIONS FOR CHANCE. OKAY. GOODBYE. GOOD BYE. SAY HI TO YOUR BRIDE. ALRIGHT, CHANCE. BUT HE JUST GOT MARRIED, SO WHAT ABOUT ISM ON HIS HONEYMOON? OH, WE'RE JUST A WE'RE JUST A FAMILY. MAYBE IT'S MAYBE A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS. WHAT WHAT HE IS PROPOSING HERE AND THEN LADIES A SECOND OPTION. HELP US DECIDE LITERALLY. YES. YES SO I CAN GET WITH MR HEAT. THE HEAT. ALSO WHOEVER AND WORK THROUGH THAT AND GET A COUPLE OF OPTIONS AND RENDERING AND MAYBE ONE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE CHURCH NEXT TO IT. SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW IT ALL IS COMPATIBLE AND THEN BRING THAT BACK. TO THE BOARD AT YOUR JULY 27TH MEETING. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU SO MUCH FOR SERVING, ESPECIALLY OUR HISTORICAL COMMUNITY. YEAH AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE A REAL LOVE FOR THAT MYSELF. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE'S THE UNSUNG HERO. AND RENEE IS THAT PERSON. SHE HAS BEEN THE GUIDING FORCE FOR OUR HISTORICAL DISTRICT AND HELP SHAPE THIS AND GUIDE IT AND GIBSON, NO GLORY. I DON'T THINK SHE REALLY WANTS IT. BUT ANYWAY . THANK YOU SO MUCH, RENE. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED FROM US. AND GO HOME AND GET MY DINNER, OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYBE IF. ANOTHER OPTION OF COLORS LIKE THE BEST COLOR THAT'S ON THERE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO USE THAT AND . THAT WITH THE BEIGE BOTTOM, THE REST HAPPENED IN IT. EVEN A BOLD STRAP THROUGH OR SOMETHING. THAT WOULD BE MORE OUTRAGE.
YEAH. OKAY WELL, WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. OKAY THANK YOU SAW MYSELF. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
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* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.