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OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE CALLED TO ORDER. THE WILY PLAN ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING FOR JUNE 20TH 2023. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER. ABSENT COMMISSIONER ROB UM ROGERS AND EVERYONE ELSE'S. OH AND COMMISSIONER SCRUGGS. ABSENT AS WELL. EVERYONE ELSE IS HERE, SO WE STARTED WITH INVOCATION PLEDGE INDICATION BY COMMISSIONER BUTLER MYSELF AND THE PLEDGE BY COMMISSIONER GREISER. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME HERE. UH, SAFELY HELP US TO MAKE RIGHT DECISIONS. HELP US TO DO WHAT DRIVES FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND HELP US GET HOME SAFELY. PRAY. AMEN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION. UNDER GOD. VISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, STRAW. OKAY NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, SO IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS ANY COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE COME FORWARD. THERE'S NOBODY IS MOVING. IT WAS LIKE NOBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS, SO WE'LL MOVE ON. NEXT CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE
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ANYTHING WE NEED TO PULL? ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONERS. IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAINMENT EMOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS WRITTEN A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, SO PLEASE VOTE. AND WE PASS 5 TO 0. SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.[1. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Victory at Wylie, a multi-tenant retail use on 1.03 acres, being Lot 1, Block 1 of Birmingham and 78 Addition, located on the northwest corner of State Highway 78 and Birmingham Street.]
FIRST UP ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER ONE. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON A SITE PLAN FOR VICTORY AT WILEY, A MULTI TENANT RETAIL USE ON 1.03 ACRES BEING LOT ONE BLOCK ONE OF BIRMINGHAM AND 78 EDITION, LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF STATE HIGHWAY 78 IN BIRMINGHAM STREET. SEGMENT MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION. UM SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS ITEM BEFORE. UM A SIMILAR VERSION OF IT CAME THROUGH. IT WAS PASSED BACK IN THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. UM IT WAS A, UM HMM. 9200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. I BELIEVE WHEN IT CAME THROUGH LAST TIME, OTHER THAN THAT THE LAYOUT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. THE REASON THAT YOU'RE SEEING THIS ITEM AGAIN IS THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO GO TO 9800 SQUARE FEET. AND BECAUSE THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM STAFF CAN CANNOT APPROVE THAT. IT HAS TO COME TO PNC FOR APPROVAL. OR CONSIDERATION. I GUESS I SHOULD SAY OTHER THAN THAT IT THE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION ITEMS ARE IN YOUR REPORT, BUT IT DOES PRETTY MUCH LINE UP EXACTLY WHAT THE 9100 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.UM AND IT DOES MEET ALL THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL EARLY LAST YEAR. ALSO UM THE APPLICANT IS HERE THIS EVENING. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, AND OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. SO MY QUESTION IS, DID IT INCREASE ANY OF THE PARKING OR DECREASE ANY OF THE PARKING AND IT DID IT? DID IT CHANGE ANY OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW FROM THE ORIGINAL, THE TRAFFIC FLOW STATE EXACTLY THE SAME AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS DID NOT CHANGE. I MEAN, THEY HAD THE PARKING SPACES ALREADY TO DO A 98 100 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. WHAT IS THE EXTRA 7000 SQUARE FEET FOR? 707 100. EXCUSE ME. UM, I HAVE. THE APPLICANT WHEN I SPOKE WITH THEM SO THAT THEY HAD THREE TENANTS. UH PERMANENT TENANTS IN MIND. UM, ONE WAS A DRIVE. THRU RESTAURANT, WHICH IT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR ONE WAS I QUICK SERVE RESTAURANT, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE EITHER A SANDWICH SHOP OR PIZZA CARRY OUT AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WAS A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. NOW WHETHER THEY NEED THAT EXTRA SPACE, OR THIS IS THE EXTRA SPACES FOR THAT OR NOT. THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THOSE THREE THINGS ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS PARTICULAR. YEAH. WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. JOHN GARDEN WITH
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KIRKMAN ENGINEERING 5200 SAY AWAY. 1 21 COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS. I DON'T KNOW. WITH ALL THE TENANTS ARE AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE COMING IN, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS SITE HAS GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS WITH DIFFERENT TENANTS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT. SO IT'S JUST THE CHANGE IN TENANTS IS THE CHANGE IN THE MARKET IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. YES SIR.IT'S STILL YEAH, THEY EVEN THE NEW PROPOSAL STILL MATCHES. UM THE INTENT AND WHAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE SUV, ESPECIALLY AS PERMIT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. FOR THE APPLICANT, OUR STAFF OR ANYTHING. OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVED AS WRITTEN WITH THE INCREASE. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL A SECOND.
AND WE PASSED 5 TO 0. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. AND THE REGULAR AGENDA, CONSIDER AND ACT
[2. Consider, and act upon, a Site Plan for Lot 2 Block A of Wylie Ranch East Commercial Park for the development of a retail use on 1.54 acres and Lot 10, Block A of Wylie Ranch East Commercial Park for the development of a detention pond on 1.12 acres. Property generally located on the southeast corner of Kreymer Lane and State Highway 78.]
UPON A SITE PLAN FOR A LOT TO BLOCK A OF WILEY RANCH EAST COMMERCIAL PARK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A RETAIL USE ON 1.54 ACRES AND LOT 10 BLOCK A OF WILEY RANCH EAST COMMERCIAL PARK. FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DETENTION POND ON 1.12 ACRES PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CREAMER LANE STATE HIGHWAY 78. THANK YOU. UM AS MENTIONED THIS IS FOR THE, UM UH, SITE PLAN FOR A 13,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BELIEVE IN APRIL. UM OF THIS YEAR. UM BIBLE, PNC AND COUNCIL . UM THE SITE PLAN DOES, UH, UM , FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE ZONING EXHIBIT. THERE'S THE 20% LANDSCAPING. THEY DO HAVE THE HIGHER THE BUFFER, NOT MEANDERING SIDEWALKS. UM THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE EMPHASIZED WITH CANOPIES AND RECESSED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT. AND THEY DO HAVE A 24 FT. SORRY. THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD AS PART OF THIS SITE. UM, THE 24 FT REQUIRED DRIVE IN THAT WE GO TO CRAMER LANE. SO NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO GET ONTO 75 AND GO AROUND . AND IF YOU REMEMBER, UM THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY PART OF A 10 LOT SITE. SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST LOT OUT OF ALL OF THOSE, AND THE DETENTION IS GOING TO BE BUILT. THAT'LL BE REGIONAL DETENTION THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME. UM I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. JASON DID . DID THE POND GET LARGER SINCE WE SAW THIS LAST WASN'T THIS A, UH WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP WITH, JUST SAY. I'M NOT 100% SURE IF IT GOT WAS WITH IT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS CAME IN. THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH THE WATER FLOW OFF THE RIGHT ALL I CAN TELL YOU . I'M NOT SURE IF I GOT LARGE TONS HERE. I KNOW THAT ENGINEERING HAS LOOKED AT THIS SITE PLAN. SO I GUESS I'D ASK THEM IF HE'S HAPPY WITH THEY'VE REVIEWED IT AND KNOW THAT THAT IS GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR REGIONAL UM IT APPEARS TO BE ADEQUATE BASED ON THE SIZE AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T SEEING THE CIVIL SIMILAR YET, BUT IT LOOKS ADEQUATE FOR THE SIZE. WAS IT SEEMS TO ME IT GREW A LITTLE IN SCOPE. IT WAS HERE THE FIRST TIME AND THAT MAY VERY LIKELY BE THE CASE WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR, UH THEIR FINAL NUMBERS, CALCULATION FINAL CALCULATIONS AND REALIZED WHAT THEY NEEDED. I NOTICED THAT THE DETENTION UPON VOLUME. EXCEEDS THE VOLUME PROVISIONS 95,000 CUBIC FEET.ALWAYS REQUIRED WAS 80 ONCE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE ISSUE. GIVES THEM MORE MORE RETENTION CAPABILITY TO CONTROL CONTROL THE WATER RUNOFF, WHICH IS GOOD. YES. IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE A DEEPER HOLE IN A SHALLOW RUBBLE. SO FOR SO FOR CLARIFICATION THAT THAT
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DETENTION PONDS THAT WILL SUPPORT THE OTHER LOTS AS WELL, CORRECT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.THAT'S GOOD. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING THAT IN RIGHT UP FRONT. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS I WENT THROUGH THE DRAWINGS COMPLETELY. I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF SECURITY OR SAFETY FENCES. ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED AROUND THAT ATTENTION. YEAH, IT'S LIKE THIS.
THAT'S A LOT OF WATER. AND DON'T THIS THERE'S A LOT OF SHRUBS AROUND IT, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA STOP. PEOPLE FROM GOING IN THERE OR NO, I KNOW THAT. BUT STILL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE RESIDENTIAL FINDS. I DON'T THINK WE REQUIRE THOSE TWO HAVE ANYTHING I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA BE ON ATLANTIS. RWANDA'S AND SEVEN AND 544. PROBABLY TWICE THE SIZE OF THAT THERE'S NOT YEAH, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR IT.
I ASSUME NO ISSUE ON THE VISIBILITY FROM. GOING ON TO CRAMER LANE. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE BECAUSE THAT MATCH LINE HE'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? NO UM, I WILL TELL YOU THIS THAT OUR CITY ENGINEERS HUGE STICKLER FOR TUNNEL REITERATE THAT. YEAH, VISIBILITY IS ONE OF HIS MAJOR ISSUES. UM SO NO, IN FACT, YOU SEE HOW THERE IS A LITTLE CURVE RIGHT THERE? YEAH HE REQUIRES AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHTFULLY SO IT HAS TO WHATEVER STREET GOES INTO ANOTHER STREET AT 90 DEGREES IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE VISIBILITY. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT THAT LITTLE EXIT THERE COMES STRAIGHT OUT, WHICH WOULD MAKE SOME OF THAT LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE. UM YOU DO YOU SEE THAT LITTLE TURN TO THE SOUTH THERE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT MAXIMUM VISIBILITY. AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS ANYTHING? NOTHING? NO OTHER QUESTIONS. NOBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ALL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THE SECOND PLEASE VOTE.
AND IT PASSES. SO MOVING ON. WHOLE THE ITEM NUMBER THREE HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AN
[3. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural (AG/30) & Planned Development 2019-01 to Commercial Corridor (CC) on 3.444 acres to allow for commercial uses. Property located west of the intersection of Old Alanis Dr and Alanis Drive (ZC 2023-11). ]
ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE RIDING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL 30 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 2019-012 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR C. C ON 3.444 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USES. PROPERTY LOCATED WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF OLD ALAN EAST DRIVE, AND. COLONIES DRIVES THE C 2023 NATIONAL 11. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM, SO THIS IS A REQUEST FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BASICALLY REZONED THESE TWO PROPERTIES. ONE IS CURRENTLY A P D. THAT WAS TO BE A BASICALLY A SWIMMING POOL SALES AND, UH, SHOWROOM AND THAT JUST NEVER PANNED OUT. UM THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS OWNED AG. IN ORDER TO SELL OFF THAT PROPERTY WITH, YOU KNOW, TO MAXIMIZE VALUE FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE CITY. THEY'RE LOOKING TO REZONE THE WHOLE THING TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. UM THE PROPERTY IS ALL AROUND. AS YOU CAN SEE IN. THIS IS ONLY AN EXHIBIT. THERE'S COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR TO THE NORTH. NO LIGHT PURPLE IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, ZONE SOME COMMERCIAL, SOME AG TO THE SOUTH. AND THEN THERE'S GLENDALE NOBLE HOME PARK KIND OF TO THE SOUTHEAST. UM, WE MAILED NINE. AH NOTIFICATIONS OUT AND AT THE TIME WE GOT WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE IN FAVOR AND NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. HOW DID WE MISS THIS? ON ON THE FUTURE PLAN THAT SHOULD ALREADY BE SURELY DID THIS WELL, NO, NO,[00:15:01]
THIS IS OWNING YOUR YOU'RE SEEING THE ZONING MAP. YOU'RE NOT SEEING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. BUT IT COMPLIES WITH THE FUTURE LAND. IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MET. THAT IS CORRECT. THIS IS THIS IS A GROUND BALL. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY AT MY POINT. THAT MAKES THIS EASY. YEAH RIGHT. YEAH IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE IT'S SILLY, LIKE YEAH, WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING MAP IS WHAT IT IS. AND UNTIL PNG AND COUNCIL TAKE ACTION, THEY STAY THE WAY THEY ARE. SO IT COMES. THE OWNERS HERE. I DON'T KNOW. COME HERE FOR THIS ITEM. NOPE. OKAY. THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE EASY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOUR FLIGHT. SORRY. OKAY I'M GOING TO IN THAT CASE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, UH, IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, UH, ARREST QUESTIONS THEY CAN ANOTHER. OTHERWISE NO ONE'S COMING UP, SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, UH, I AGREE. I THINK IT KIND OF JUST MESSES UP, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I THINK WE DID SOMETHING TO THE SOUTH RECENTLY. UM, THAT WOULD KIND OF FALL IN THERE SO UM, THEY MIGHT JUST HAVE ANY COMMENTS. SO OTHER THAN THAT, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALRIGHT. I AM MOTION TO APPROVE HIS PRESENTED PUSHING TO APPROVE. SECOND THE MOTION. SECONDS. PLEASE VOTE. AND IT PASSES. OKAY REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING. CONSIDER AN ACT UPON[4. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Commercial Corridor (CC) to Commercial Corridor - Special Use Permit (CC-SUP) on 1.162 acres to allow for indoor athletic facility use. Property located north of 3463 W FM 544 (ZC 2023-09). ]
THE RECOMMENDATION OF CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE RIDING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. SPECIAL USE PERMIT. C. C S U P ON 1162 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY USE PROPERTY LOCATED NORTH LOVE. 34 63 WEST FM 5 40 FOR ZONING CASE 2023.09. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UM AS MENTIONED, THIS ITEM IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT'S FOR AN INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY. THE APPLICANT PLANS ON USING IT FOR BADMINTON. FOR THEIR COUPLE OF WEEKS. UH, WE KEPT THINKING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO PICKLE BALL FOR YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S PLAYING THAT NOW, BUT THEY CORRECTED US. UM WE JUST KNEW THAT THEY WERE DOING AN INDOOR FACILITY WITH COURTS. BUT ANYWAY, UM, THAT BEING SAID, IT'S UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED . YOU KNOW, ALL YOU CAN SEE ON THE EXHIBIT HERE, MEINEKE QUIKTRIP AND ALL. THE UM IT'S BACK BEHIND ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES NEXT UP NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS. UM BECAUSE IT IS A WEEK CAN CITY CLASSIFIES IT CLASSIFIES IT AS A COMMERCIAL INDOOR FACILITY. UM IT HAS TO BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT DOES ALLOW FOR THE USE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY. UM, IT DOES ALSO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING. UM THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN US A COUPLE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT USED A DIFFERENT CALCULATION FOR THE PARKING THAT COMES UP WITH ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE SHOWING HERE. SO WE'RE GENERALLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF REDUCING WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY CONSIDER PARKING. UM THE USE THAT WE'RE USING IS COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.WHICH IS USUALLY MORE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, SAY BOWLING ALLEYS. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM THIS, ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE MORE OF A RESERVATION BY RESERVATION TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, COURT FACILITIES, SO THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING VARIANTS BASICALLY, THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE APPLICATION IS TO USE, UM. I WANT TO LOOK AT THE WORD IN HERE. I APOLOGIZE. UM, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. AH OH, YEAH, THEY WANT TO DO. IT'S JUST SOME RECESSES WITH THE BRICK AND LIMESTONE INSTEAD OF DOING THE 25% BEING OFFSET 4 FT. UM STAFF IS GENERALLY UM, ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA, BECAUSE THEY THE WHOLE IDEA OF THAT OFFSET IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE. WE'RE NOT BUILDING JUST BOXES. YOU KNOW, AND THEY DEFINITELY IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM AND IT'S OUR OPINION THAT FOR WHAT KIND OF FACILITY IT IS AND WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE BUILDING
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THEIR DEFINITELY MEETING THE INTENT OF THAT. UM, THAT'S THAT'S OUR OPINION. UM WE DID MAIL NOTICES OUT THE 12 PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE DID ONE BACK IN FAVOR AND THE APPLICANT YEARS HERE THIS EVENING IN CASE UM THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WITH THAT I'LL BE QUIET. SO I GUESS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SO YOU CAN COME UP. I KNOW WE HAVE YOURS FORMS ALREADY. BUT IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OF COURSE . THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS ELLIOT BOGART AND WE TRY AND GO ENGINEERING AT 17 82 WEST MCDERMOTT DRIVE IN ALLEN, TEXAS, 75013. UM AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AP OF FOOD THAT ARE MORE TOWARDS THE APPLICANT. YEAH, THEY HAVE. MINE WILL JUST BE I MEAN, I SAW THE STUFF FROM THE OTHER CITIES ABOUT THE LESS PARKING. SO WHAT IS YOU'RE MAKING RESERVATIONS IS THERE I GUESS. WHAT IS THE INSIDE LOOK LIKE IS THERE A SPOT? FOR PEOPLE TO WATCH THIS OR IS THERE LIKE THE REASON I ASKED, THAT IS, I UNDERSTAND WILL BE LESS PARKING, BUT IF THERE'S A TOURNAMENT ARE HEY, WE'RE GOING TO GO WATCH DAD AND UNCLE OR WHOEVER PLAYED THIS AND THEN YOU BRING KIDS AND OTHER PEOPLE START COMING. THEN YOU HAVE PARKING BLEEDING OVER INTO OTHER BUSINESSES. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SETUP. IS IT ALL JUST ROOMS WITH GLASS AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HALLWAY THAT PEOPLE CAN STAND IN THAT THEY WANT TO, OR WHAT IS INSIDE LOOK LIKE, SO I ACTUALLY HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE THAT WOULD BE MORE SUITED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BASED ON THE UK. I'M ACTUALLY REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THIS DRAWING AND ARE PRESENTING THIS APPLICATION REDUCED PARKING. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BASED MORE ON USE, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT OR THE DEVELOPER HERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUITED. YEAH. YOU COME OUT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PAUL INVIGORATE. SOUTH FOR SOUTH REGIONAL 4220 MECHANIC. UM, IF I MAY TAKE THAT QUESTION, PLEASE.SO THE INSIDE OF IT IS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE, UM PICKLEBALL FACILITIES, WHICH IS INDOOR, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, COVERED AND AIR CONDITIONING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THE SIZE OF EACH OF THE COURT IS SAME AS A PICKLE BALL. UM AND THEN THE RESOLUTION SYSTEM, SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN, THEY HAVE TO RESERVE THROUGH AN APP THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ALREADY. THEY COME IN BOOK THERE BEFORE GOING TO COME IN. SO BE AN ART. THIS IS THIS IS NOT DESIGNED FOR A TOURNAMENT TYPE OF A THING. THIS IS MORE FOR EXERCISE, AND, AH AND WORK OUT TYPE OF THING DOING IN OUR TOURNAMENT, SO IT'S NOT BUILT FOR YOU KNOW, TOURNAMENT STANDARD TYPE OF THING, AND WE ARE NOT YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING TO RUN TOURNAMENTS THERE. YOU KNOW WE HAVE OTHER FACILITIES. THE LEWISVILLE FACILITY THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PROVIDED THEY HAVE . I THINK THE PLAN IS FOR 31 COURT. SO THE TOURNAMENTS IN THIS REGION FOR THAT SUPPORT ARE GOING TO BE THERE. OKAY? SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A SPOT IT'S NOT BUILT FOR. NOT COMING. WHY PEOPLE? YEAH, IT'S NOT LIKE LET'S SAY A VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT HAPPENING. THEIR PARENTS AND SIBLINGS AND GRANDPARENTS COME AND WATCH, SO IT'S MORE LIKE AN EXERCISE TYPE OF THING WHERE SOME OF THE COURTS ARE RESERVED FOR SINGLES, WHERE THE SAME LIKE TENNIS ONE ON ONE AND SOME ARE DESIGNED FOR OUR DOUBLES. WANDA. OKAY? SO DID I. DID I MISS SOMETHING OR HOW MANY COURTS A NINE COURSE COURTS . YEAH. NINE CODES. THANK YOU. SO TO CLARIFY THERE'S CLARIFY THERE'S NO VIEWING GALLERIES AND THERE'S NO WE HAVE SOME SPACE FOR STRETCHING AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU KNOW, ARE DONE BEFORE THEY WANT TO DO SOME. THERE IS SOME SPACE YOU KNOW THERE. UH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IN THE LAYOUT, WHICH IS THERE, BUT, YEAH, WE HAVE SOME SPACES BECAUSE OH, DOWN, SCROLL DOWN TO I DIDN'T SEE THE OKAY. WE HAVE SOME SPACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD STRETCH OUT A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN. YEAH I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR WE WANNA UTILIZED PROPERTY , AND I THINK, GENERALLY IN MY OPINION I DON'T HAVE A NECESSARY PROBLEM. IT'S JUST OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LESS PARKING YOU KNOW IT'S PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE THERE FOR A REASON, AND SOMETIMES IT LESS WILL WORK, BUT YOU DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE BLEEDING OFF INTO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND SO WE HAVE DESIGNED OUR BUSINESS PROCESSES IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT. HEY YOU KNOW, YOU JUST COME IN AND LIKE, BOWLING, YOU KNOW, GOING AND YOU KNOW THE WE CAN GO IN AND PLAY AND IF IT GETS BUSY EVEN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE BOWLING LANES GOING AND
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FIGURE OUT THAT IT'S FULL. YOU STILL NEED TO PARK AND GO IN. YEAH SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD VERY CLEARLY IN MIND. THEY SAID THAT IT'S ONLY THROUGHOUT YOU YOUR BOOK YOU PAY BEFORE AND THEN YOU COME IN. OKAY SO THAT'S A SO WE HAVE INTEGRATED OUR DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. INTO OUR BUSINESS PROCESS OF OPERATIONS ALSO, SO WE HAVE KIND OF ENTERING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY CONSTRAINED, UM IN A SPACE THERE, SO OUR BUSINESS PROCESS LOT SITE LAYOUT. IRON THE DECIDE PLAN. THEY ARE ALL INTEGRATED WITH THAT TALK PROCESS. OKAY? SO FOR THE OLDER PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT PICKLEBALL IS, WHAT SIZE IS THE COURT FEET IS 44 BY 20. 44 FT HALF THE SIZE OF A TENNIS COURT. ONE SIDE BY 44 FT BY 20 YEARS, OKAY, EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE AFTER YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME PICKLEBALL IS AFTER THIS, OKAY? IS THERE IS THERE LIKE A SNACK BAR OR SOMETHING IN THERE? NO SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF REFRESHMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, BECAUSE I'M PICTURING LIKE I WAS FROM THE SEVENTIES. RIGHT? SO I'M PICTURING LIKE A RACQUETBALL. COOL AND THEN OR HIGHLIGHT BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE THE COURTS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM. AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A BAR AND DISEASE AND THE ICY YEAH , NONE OF THAT HARD DOG. I KNOW IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE, BUT I THINK, UH, NO. I MEAN, I DID THAT. I AM FROM SEVENTIES TO OKAY. I'VE DONE THAT. YOU KNOW THE OLD SKATING, SKATE DRINKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT THIS PROJECT IS REALLY DESIGNED NOT FOR GOING THERE AND YOU KNOW, SOCIALIZING, WHICH IS WHAT I USED TO GO, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE THING FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST GET YOUR 500 CALORIES BURNED. THAT THAT'S THE THOUGHT . PROCESS HERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE. NO. WELL I DO WANT ONE MORE QUESTION . SO SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO DO THE MATH IN MY HEAD ON 999 COURTS, 30 PARKING SPACES. UM ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE YOUR RESERVATION IS TIED TO SOME PERIOD OF TIME. WHAT IS THAT TIME? OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM GOOD QUESTION, SO WE HAVE A RESERVATIONS FOR 55 MINUTES. SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN LET'S SAY 9 A.M. THEY LEAVE AT 9 55. AND THEN YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE NEXT NEXT SET OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO COME IN. THEY'LL HAVE 10 MINUTES. THAT'S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO OUT OF THE NINE. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE STARTING THE RESERVATION AT NINE AM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ALL NINE QUARTS TO COME IN AND GO AT THE SAME TIME, SO WE ARE GOING TO STAGGER THE RESERVATION TO SOME COURTS ARE GOING TO BE STARTING THE RESERVATION AT 9 A.M. AND THEN THE START IN THE MORNING WILL BE FROM 9 30. THE OTHER HALF SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT CREATING EVERYBODY COMING IN AND GOING LIKE, LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WE HAVE THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? EVERYBODY COMES IN AT THE SAME TIME. HEY, LET'S DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT, SO THAT'S DESIGNED IN TIBET PROCESS. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? JASON HOW MUCH? HOW MANY ACTUAL SPOTS DIFFERENCE ARE WE TALKING BETWEEN WHAT YOU NORMALLY WOULD HAVE AND WHAT THEY WERE ASKING. WE NORMALLY REQUIRE BELIEVE IT'S 50. BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE ONE PER 300 SQUARE FEET. YEAH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, IF I MAY, UM. I BELIEVE IT'S MCKINNEY AND FRISCO. WE LOOK STAFF LOOKED AT AND THEY DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS IF WE LOOKED AT IT FROM A THREE PARKING SPACES PER COURT, THEY WOULD NEED 27. AND THEY'RE OFFERING 30. SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD. TO BE HONEST, I WOULD PREFER THAT BY THE TIME WE GET TO COUNCIL, THEY HAVE AT LEAST TALKED TO ALL THE ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE OVERFLOW. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. YEAH YOU KNOW THAT SO WE DON'T END UP WITH PHONE CALLS, YOU KNOW, HAYWIRE IF IT HAPPENS THAT WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THE STAGGERING AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THEM. WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THAT'S UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, GIVEN EVERYTHING. SO. ACTUALLY IF YOU DO THE MATH, IT'S A 13,999 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH 300 SQUARE FEET FOR PARKING SPOT THAT WOULD COME OUT 47. AND PROVIDING 30. SO IT WOULD BE 17 DIFFERENT. RIGHT? THAT IS TRUE. THERE IS A LARGE DISCREPANCY THERE. HOWEVER THE. THE USE IN PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS TYPE OF USE IS BEING SUBJECTED TO IS NOT REALLY ALIGNED WITH THE PROPER PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THAT USE, AND THAT CAN BE REFLECTED LIKE WE'RE LIKE JASON WAS SAYING IN OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR FACILITIES, THEY GO ON A, UH, X[00:30:01]
NUMBER R ONE SPACE PER X NUMBER OF COURT OF COURTS. UM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. WHAT I'VE SEEN WITH OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES LIKE THAT. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT. MHM USED TO BELONG TO ONE THAT WAS RACQUETBALL. AND SO IT'S THE SAME THING. YEAH, SAME TYPE OF THING. ABSOLUTELY. JOSH I THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S NO OBSERVATION IS NOT GONNA BE CROWDS AND THERE'S NO SNACK BAR AND STUFF. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER. WELL, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THANK YOU GUYS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS. UH, PLEASE COME UP.THAT'S HE HAS. NO ONE IS MOVING FORWARD. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. NO OTHER COMMENTS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE. WE ACCEPT THE PETITION AS PRESENTED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THE PAST IS 50. GOOD LUCK. GOOD LUCK. YEAH.
OKAY SO, UH, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UM. DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT? COMMISSIONER ROGERS DID. THE SAID THAT HE WAS, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, COULDN'T MAKE IT. THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS LAST MEETING. UM BUT HE WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND FOR WORKING WITH THEM AS THE CHAIRMAN, UM, TO DO THE CITY'S BUSINESS. UM AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE MEETING THERE IS IN GOING AND OUTGOING CELEBRATION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING NEXT TUESDAY. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY BE AT 5 30. WHEN IT USUALLY IS, BUT I'M NOT THE CITY SECRETARY, SO I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. UM, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON THE 20TH. THE NEXT ACTUAL DATE IS THE FOURTH OF JULY. SO WE WILL NOT HAVE A MEETING ON THE FOURTH OF JULY. UM, BUT THEN WE WILL HAVE A MEETING TWO WEEKS LATER. YES. IS THAT 14 B THE 18TH OF JULY? YEAH, PLUS 14. YEAH SO WE DO NEED, UM, FOR THE CURRENT MEMBERS. UM WE DO NEED TO THINK ABOUT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AT THAT MEETING, AND I WILL GIVE MY YEARLY UH POWER POINT SPEECH PRESENTATION ON ALL THE DUES AND DON'T AND WHY YOU'RE HERE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. SO UM, WE WILL HAVE ONE NEW MEMBER. UM AND WE'LL WELCOME HIM NEXT WEEK. YES JOE HENNEMAN. I BELIEVE I DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE LAST NAME AND I SHOULD KNOW HIM. HE'S BEEN ON HRC FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND HE'S GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO PNC. I BELIEVE SO, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE EITHER GOT REAPPOINTED OR WHATEVER, SO WE'LL END UP WITHOUT ONE NEW PERSON. AND THEN I'LL BE REFRESHER FOR YOU ALL. DO WE HAVE THE POWER TO RECOMMEND THIS BEING BRIAN ROGERS DAY? GOING FORWARD OR NOW YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THE MAYOR.
THE MAYOR MAYOR IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN. WHO CAN DO YEAH. STILL LEARNING. YEAH THERE WE GO.
APPROXIMATELY IS THE ONLY ONE WITH THE POWER TO DO PROCLAMATION. SO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK WITH HIM. WATCH THE VIDEO ON HOW TO DO THIS. EARLIER TODAY , ONE OF HIS ALRIGHT? AH THAT'S IT WAS THAT, UH, I GUESS I'LL ENTERTAINING MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. I'LL STAY LIKE THAT LEADS VOTE. NO. ACTUALLY WITH ROBERT'S RULES. GOOD WE GET THROUGH A WHOLE FRENZY WOULD KNOW. FINALLY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.