[CALL TO ORDER ] [00:00:44] MAKE THEM. TO GIVE US TODAY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO GET HERE SAFELY. PRAY THAT HELPS MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. AND THE STUFF IS PRESENTED BEFORE US. THERE WAS A HOME SAFELY AND HAVE A GREAT REST OF WEAK IN THE NAME OF FRANK. ONE DAY. INDIVISIBLE JUSTICE, STRAW. OKAY AND THE FIRST ITEM ALWAYS ON THE AGENDA IS COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES OR SIX. IF YOU REPRESENT A GROUP, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. AND NOBODY IS RUSHING THE STAGE SO WE WILL CLOSE THE [CONSENT AGENDA ] COMMENTS. ON NON AGENDA ITEMS AND MOVED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND IT APPEARS THAT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ARE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES? UPDATES ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S. NOPE. WE HAVE SEEN US WHILE ENTERTAINING MOTION. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTE SAYS PRESENTED WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LORRAINE. I'LL SECOND WHEREVER CAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BYRNE. PLEASE VOTE. [1. Hold a Public Hearing, consider, and act upon, a recommendation to City Council regarding the writing of an ordinance for a change in zoning from Agricultural (AG/30) to Light Industrial - Special Use Permit (LI-SUP) on 8.96 acres to allow for a battery storage use. Property located at 1011 E Brown St (ZC 2023-08). ] ALRIGHT 50. AND NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE WRITING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A CHANGE. IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL AGE. 32 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPECIAL USE PERMIT. L I DASH S U P ON 8.96 ACRES TO ALLOW FOR A BATTERY STORAGE USE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10 11 EAST BROWN ZONING CASE. 2023 08, KEVIN. YES GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING CHANGING ZONING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. TWO OF THEM OFFER A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE USE, SO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS JUST A ZONING REQUEST. THE SITE PLANNING PLANNING WILL BE REQUIRED LATER ON IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED. UM THE PROJECT DOES CONTAIN TWO POINTS OF ACCESS WITH A FIRE LANE. THEY ALSO HAVE A SERVICE AREA FOR VEHICLES. ALL OF THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE CONCRETE. AND WE DID MAIL OUT. UH, WE SENT OUT. 18 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, BUT I'M SHOWING IT HERE ON THE SCREEN. AND IT WAS FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT'S SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. AND THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED A PRESENTATION AND I'LL LET HIM PRESENT IT NOW. THANKS, KEVIN. AND WHEN YOU COME UP IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THAT CAN BE RESIDENTS OR BUSINESS. WHATEVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH. YEAH THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME. I'M STEVEN GORDON R. I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE OUR FORT WORTH ADDRESS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN THERE. UM, SO I CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU GUYS AT THE END. MY APOLOGIES THERE. BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LET ME COME HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU GUYS. MY PLAN IS REALLY JUST TO GO THROUGH WHO WE ARE AS A COMPANY REAL QUICK WHERE WE'VE BEEN, AND THEN TALK THROUGH ENERGY STORAGE AND THE BENEFITS THAT CAN BRING AND, YOU KNOW, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU GUYS HAVE SO BLACK MOUNTAIN. SO BLACK [00:05:05] MOUNTAIN WAS FOUNDED IN 2007 BY OUR CEO RED BENNETT. WE'RE HEADQUARTERED IN FORT WORTH. UH WE HAVE OUR ENERGY STORAGE BUSINESS BASED OUT OF AUSTIN. COMPANIES STARTED AS A UPSTREAM OIL AND GAS COMPANY. UM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND COMMODITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN A PART OF SINCE 2007 AND YEAH, YOU CAN YOU KIND OF SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THEIR OIL AND GAS BEING THE KIND OF MAIN STARTED THE BUSINESS AND, UM WE'VE BEEN DOING BATTERY STORAGE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 334 YEARS NOW, SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR HISTORY AND WHO WE'VE BEEN, UM, AND A BIG PART ABOUT BLACK MOUNTAIN IS IT'S NOT A MASSIVE COMPANY. THAT'S GOT ALL THESE RED TAPES AND EVERYTHING. WE ALL REPORT RIGHT UP THROUGH THE TOP, SO IT ALLOWS US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND BEING ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE AND WORKING TOGETHER SO NEXT. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE. SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE THERE AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO THIS IS A KIND OF STANDARD UNIT. NOT NECESSARILY THE EXACT ONE. WE'D BE BUILDING, BUT THEY'RE ALL KIND OF COALESCING AROUND A SIMILAR DESIGN THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS SO BATTERIES WILL BE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES IN THE BATTERY RACKS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE AND THOSE CABINETS THERE. THE ENCLOSURES ARE NON WALKING, NON OCCUPY A BLE, SO NO ONE'S EVER GOING TO BE GOING INSIDE OF THEM. ALL SERVICE WILL BE DONE FROM THE OUTSIDE. THOSE BATTERIES ARE ALL THEN DAISY CHAIN CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER CONNECTED TO AN INVERTER THAT WILL CONVERT FROM D C TO A C FOR THE GRID. AND THEN THERE'S MEDIUM VOLTAGE. STEP UP TRANSFORMERS TO GET US TO THE P O I VOLTAGE THAT WILL BE INTERCONNECTING TOO. THESE SYSTEMS ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL AN ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST 24 7 ALL TIME, YOU KNOW, VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SYSTEM BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE SYSTEM FROM, UM, A DIFFERENT LOCATION. THERE WILL BE NO ONE ON SITE, BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE MONITORED 24 7, AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING IS WRONG IN ANY SITUATION IN ANY WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF ISOLATE THAT AND SHUT IT DOWN ITSELF. AND THEN THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT IN H VAC, WHICH WHICH WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM AND IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF WHAT EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE PICTURES HERE AS WELL. SO TALKING ABOUT SOME BENEFITS HERE , UM THE BIG BENEFIT IS TRANSMISSION CAN CONGESTION SO BRING ON A LOT OF RENEWABLES. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY COMING ONTO THE GRID. THE SUN ONLY SHINES WHEN IT'S SUNNY. THE WIND ONLY BLOWS WHEN IT'S WINDY. YOU KNOW, THE GRID HAS NEVER, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY HAD THAT TYPE OF ENERGY COMING ONTO IT, SO THIS CAUSES TIMES OF CONGESTION WHEN IT'S REALLY SUNNY AND REALLY WINDY. THERE'S EXCESS ENERGY AND IT'S GOT NOWHERE TO GO. WE PUT THIS BATTERY RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO THE TO THE SUBSTATION, AND THAT ENERGY CAN CHARGE THE BATTERY IN REAL TIME, UM AND THEN DISCHARGED BACK TO THE GRID LIKE NEW ENERGY WHEN IT'S NEEDED ONCE THE SUN GOES DOWN. SO THAT'S A BIG PIECE ON CONGESTION . WE ALSO INCREASED RELIABILITY , SO THAT WAS SAME INTERMITTENT SEASON. THE RENEWABLES CAUSED THE GRIDS, FREQUENCY TO GO UP AND DOWN. LIKE I SAID THE GRID WAS NOT BUILT FOR THIS BACK WHEN IT WAS IMAGINED ORIGINALLY, SO, UM, THIS IS WHAT LEADS TO A LOT OF BLACKOUTS AND ISSUES. UM YOU KNOW, IN THE RELIABILITY OF THE GRID AGAIN, THE BATTERY IS ONE OF THE FASTEST RESPONDING SYSTEMS, IF NOT THE FASTEST RESPONDING SYSTEM OUT THERE CAN RESPOND IN SECONDS. SO IF THE GRID IS HAVING ISSUES THAT HAS TOO MUCH ENERGY. NOT ENOUGH ENERGY ON IT. UM YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW THEY CAN CALL TO THE STORAGE SYSTEM, AND THIS SYSTEM CAN DISPATCH ENERGY WITHIN SECONDS THERE. UM ANOTHER BIG BENEFIT IS BEING SIGNIFICANT TAX CONTRIBUTOR. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH 180 MILLION PLUS OF CAPEX, ESPECIALLY ON THE PARCEL WE'RE LOOKING AT. THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF OTHER USES THAT WOULD GIVE THAT MUCH CAPITAL INTO THE PARCEL WE'RE AT. SO YOU KNOW, WITH THE 20 YEAR LIFE, THEN WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BECOME A YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT TAX CONTRIBUTOR IN THE AREA. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, WE LIKE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, SO WE LIKE TO PUT DOWN ROOTS WHERE WE'RE AT. WE LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS. UM, YOU KNOW QUESTIONS. YOU GUYS HAVE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE EVERYONE EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING. YEAH SO THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING HERE. WHAT WE PLAN TO BRING HERE. UM KIND OF GOING IN THE PROJECT LOCATION. HERE IS A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF IT. UM AND AS YOU KIND OF GET IN, UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, SO THE SIZE IS 200 MEGAWATTS BY TWO HOURS. WE'RE CONNECTING TO THE SUBSTATION RIGHT NEXT TO IT TO ENCORE SUBSTATION. UM WE FILED THIS WITH ENCORE BACK IN 2022. IT'S A VERY RIGOROUS INTERCONNECTION PROCESS THAT TAKES MULTIPLE YEARS. UM, AND WE WORK WITH ENCORE AND THEY DO THE STUDIES AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE DONE CRITICAL ISSUES ANALYSIS LOOKING FOR CULTURAL RESOURCES, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, FIELD STUDIES. WE'VE COME UP WITH A VERY CLEAN PARCEL HERE WITH NO ISSUES SO FAR, WHICH IS GREAT CURRENTLY LIKE YOU SAID, ZONE FOR AG AND LOOKING TO, UM REZONE [00:10:03] THAT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH AN S U P UM YEAH, PLANNING WILL COME COME DOWN THE LINE, WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE SITE PLANS AND WE CAN TALK TO SITE PLAN HERE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL, UM AND THEN MAJOR PERMITS WILL FILE YOU KNOW Q 1 24 WITH CONSTRUCTION, PROBABLY STARTING Q THREE Q FOUR OF 24, SO WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE UNTIL WE BE PLANNING TO GET GOING. UM YEAH, SO HERE'S KIND OF OUR LAYOUT HERE. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO KIND OF SEE TOTALLY. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF CONTAINERS YOU KNOW, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT AN ORGANIZED ROSE. YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, PER YEAR, GUYS COMMENTS AND REQUESTS UPON THE TOP OR ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES. WE HAVE A 10 FT. OFFSET WITH TREES . EVERY I THINK 25 FT AND THEN AN 8 FT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE THAT WILL KIND OF SURROUND THE WHOLE THING. YOU KNOW IF IT'S YOU KNOW, A VISUAL IMPACT AND ALSO KEEPING PEOPLE OUT AS WELL, MAKING SURE NO ONE'S GETTING IN THERE WHO DOESN'T NEED TO BE. YEAH AND THEN THIS IS THIS IS WHAT OUR LAYOUT LOOKS LIKE. IF THERE'S IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THERE, WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK THROUGH THAT. UM A BIG THING, YOU KNOW, FOR US AND FOR EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY AND YOU KNOW, WHEREVER WE'RE BUILDING IS SAFETY. YOU KNOW, THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN CHANGING AND MOVING VERY QUICKLY . BUT I'LL SAY THE SAFETY STANDARDS AROUND THEM HAVE BEEN MOVING EVEN FASTER. SO YOU OWE 95 40 IS A TESTING PROCESS THAT ALL THESE BATTERIES WILL UNDERGO . THEY DO IT ON THE CELLS. SO THE SMALLEST PART OF THE BATTERY TO THE MODULE, WHICH IS KIND OF THE YOU KNOW, UH, FOLDER LOOKING PIECE OF BATTERY THERE AND THEN THAT WHOLE RACK THAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE THEY DO RIGOROUS TESTING. MAKING SURE THAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND WORST CASE SCENARIOS THAT IT WILL ALL BE MAINTAINED TO ONE CONTAINER AND WILL NOT PROPAGATE TO THE REST OF THE SITE. THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG PIECE THERE. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE. YOU'RE 95 48 IS ACTUALLY ON THE WHOLE CONTAINER, SO THEY'LL DO YOU NO LARGE SCALE FIRE TESTING, THOUGH, LIKE THE WHOLE THING ON FIRE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS, THEY'LL PENETRATE THE MODULES AND WAYS THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. BUT JUST TO TASK FORCE CASE SCENARIOS, IT GOES UNDERGOES THAT TESTING AS WELL AND THEN THE OTHER ARE MORE KIND OF STANDARD. YOU KNOW, I ELECTRICAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE GO THROUGH . AND THEN THE LAST 18 55 IS BASICALLY IT'S NOT REALLY A, UM , A CERTIFICATION MORE SO GUIDELINES ON HOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED AND SPACINGS THAT NEED TO BE REQUIRED AND EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ON SITE THERE, SO WE FOLLOW THAT AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS WE WORK WITH, YOU KNOW YOU GUYS WITH YOUR FIRE MARSHAL WITH FIRE DEPARTMENTS, MAKING SURE EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION IS. AND WE ALSO DO TESTING. WE OFFER TESTING IF YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WANTS TESTING. UM YOU KNOW, IN TRAINING FOR THEM, TOO, SO THEY KNOW HOW TO RESPOND. AND THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU KNOW, IN CASE ANYTHING HAPPENS THERE. UM AND THIS IS KIND OF SOME MORE STUFF ON SAFETY HERE. SO YOU'RE 95 48 WILL TELL US HOW FAR EACH CONTAINER HAS TO BE FROM THE OTHER ONE. SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN ONE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO THE OTHERS. YOU KNOW IT'LL BE CONTAINED IN ONE CONTAINER. THE MODULAR, THE MODULE. THE BATTERIES AND THE ENCLOSURES ARE DESIGNED TO KEEP SAFE TO KEEP THE FIRE WITHIN THE ONE CONTAINER, NOT ALLOWING IT TO PROPAGATE. THE BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS REALLY THE KIND OF BRAIN OF THE WHOLE THING . UM THE E. M S THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE THE ENERGY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM DOES THE WHOLE PLANT THE BATTERY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM DOES EACH CONTAINER AND THEN WITHIN THAT EACH BATTERY HAS SENSORS ON IT? TEMPERATURE SENSORS, VOLTAGE SENSORS. SO LIKE I SAID, IF ONE BATTERY IS GOING AWRY, AND THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING THEY CAN INSTANTLY ISOLATE THAT SHUT THAT CONTAINER DOWN FROM WHOEVER WHEREVER THEY ARE OPERATING IT, UM TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING'S OKAY BEFORE THEY PROCEED. OBVIOUSLY STANDARD THINGS LIKE SMOKE DETECTORS, HEAT DETECTORS, GAS DETECTORS AS WELL. UM, THAT SHOULD BE UP THERE TO THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED INSIDE THE CONTAINERS. WE HAVE VENTILATION AND DEFLA GRATION AGAIN IN CASE THINGS HAPPEN. THESE ARE ALL JUST ADDITIONAL SAFETY FEATURES. FIRE SUPPRESSION IN THE CONTAINERS, UM AND THEN JUST STANDARD ELECTRICAL SAFETY FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERS TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THEY'RE OPERATING EFFECTIVELY AND FINALLY, REDUNDANCY AND DESIGN. WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING ONE SMOKE DETECTOR. ONE SENSOR. THEY'RE KIND OF ALL OVER THE CONTAINER. THEY'RE IN EACH BATTERY RACK IN EACH BATTERY MODULE LIKE I MENTIONED, SO THERE'S A LOT OF REDUNDANCY IN THE DESIGN AND IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS THERE. UM AND THEN, FINALLY, HE WAS JUST SOME PICTURES. SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE MORE FORMALLY. WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE THIS IS KIND OF A, UM, UH, HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF IT. HERE'S THE SAME PLANT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. SO THESE HERE ARE ACTUALLY LITTLE BIT OLDER TECHNOLOGY. SO THESE CONTAINERS EVERYTHING USED TO BE DONE IN LIKE AN ISIL CONTAINER LIKE A SHIPPING CONTAINER. UM THIS COULD BE THE DESIGN THAT THAT IS USED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DONE IN LIKE THAT KIND OF MORE SPECIFIC BATTERY CABINET. LIKE I SHOWED YOU IN THE BEGINNING, BUT EITHER WAY, THE KIND OF GENERAL LAYOUT WILL LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN [00:15:05] THE END AND HERE'S JUST A FINAL PICTURE THERE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE ROADS AND, UM YOU KNOW, MOVING INTO THE SUBSTATION THERE SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY ALL THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU GUYS HAVE. OKAY, UM EXCUSE ME. UM LET'S SEE HERE, I THINK HONESTLY, MOST OF THE ONLY CONCERNS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS JUST ABOUT MOSTLY ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS HOW THIS IS GOING TO REACT WITH THE PEOPLE AROUND IT. THE PROS OF THE BSS SYSTEM IS, YOU KNOW, WELL DOCUMENTED. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE. LET'S SEE. UM LITHIUM BATTERIES. SO LITHIUM BATTERIES HAVE PROS AND CONS. IS THERE IF A. SOME BATTERY GOES BAD OR IF IT VENTS. THE GAS IS WHAT ARE THE GASSES THAT COME OUT? WHAT ARE THE AMOUNTS? YOU KNOW HOW MANY BATTERIES ARE ON A SITE PERSON? WHAT? I'M GETTING AHEAD TO. YEAH YEAH, SO THEY WILL BE LITHIUM ION ON LITHIUM ION BATTERIES. THAT'S UH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, THE SAFEST TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY HAVE LFPB SPECIFICALLY WHICH IS THE SAFEST VERSION OF LITHIUM ION. IT'S WHY ALL THE E V S OR MOVING TO ELOPE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S THE SAFEST WHICH IS CAUSING US SOME CONCERNS. UM BUT AS FAR AS OFF GASSING AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OFF GASSED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN AN EMERGENCY OR AN ISSUE WILL ALL BE DISPERSED. THIS GOES INTO THE SPACING, SO WE'LL BE DISPERSED COMPLETELY. BY THE TIME IT WOULD REACH THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. SO UM, YOU KNOW, ANY GASSES TO WORRY ABOUT WOULD BE DISPERSED LIKE THEY WOULDN'T BE THERE BY THE TIME THEY REACH THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. OKAY SO THERE IS NO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN ABOUT OFF GASSING. CORRECT? UM HOW? HOW DO THE LITHIUM IONS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO HANDLE THE HEAT? WE GET 100 AND 5 DEGREES DAY NOT EVERY DAY, BUT WE GET A HUNT, YOU KNOW, 100, PLUS DAYS WITH HIGH HUMIDITY. HOW ARE THESE UNITS GOING TO HOLD UP WITH THE HEAT? YEAH NO, THAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND THAT'S GOES INTO OUR DESIGN. UM EACH OF THOSE CONTAINERS USUALLY WILL HAVE TO H VAC SYSTEMS, NOT JUST ONE. SO THEY'RE ALL YOU KNOW, NICE AND COOL AND KEEPING THEIR OWN TEMPERATURE IN THERE AND WE OVERSIZE, YOU KNOW, H VAC SYSTEMS ARE ALL OVERSIZED. TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW, FOR THE WORST CASE OF WORST CASE IN 100 YEARS OF TEXAS HEAT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THAT AND HAVE ENOUGH AIR CONDITIONING IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL SUITABLE ON THE YOUR FIRE. IS THIS GOING TO BE A FIRE DEPARTMENT MONITORED SITES, SO IF YOU HAVE A LIKE, RIGHT NOW. BUSINESS A BUSINESS HAS A FIRE ALARM IN IT. WHEN THAT ALARM GOES OFF ARE WIDELY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO THEY ARE THE MONITORS OF CHOICE. NOW YOU CAN HAVE ANYBODY MONITOR. BUT WHILE THE FTSE JUST THEY CHARGE YOU TO MONITOR WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT WITH YOUR PERMIT. OKAY SO MY QUESTION IS ARE IS THIS A MONITORED SITE OR IF A FIRE ALARM GOES OFF WHO'S NOTIFIED? YEAH. NO, I. I WAS LAUGHING TO IT. YEAH WE WERE LAUGHING BECAUSE IT WILL BE MONITORED BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THE WINDOW? YEAH. UM GOOD POINT. GOOD POINT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT. I THINK IT REALLY JUST BE UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE WITH. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT YOU KNOW IF IT'S AN EXTRA COST TO HAVE IT BE FULLY MONITORED BY THEM, THEN I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY WE WOULD GO BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE. WHEN YOUR FIRE ALARM GOES OFF. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ISOLATED IN ONE UNIT LIKELIHOOD OF THAT SPREADING IS NOT GREAT. I'VE GOT SOME VOLUNTEER FIRE IN MY BACKGROUND . SO, YEAH, THE LIKELIHOOD OF IT SPREADING IS NOT GREAT. BUT MY QUESTION WAS WHO'S NOTIFIED? HOW DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING CAUGHT ON FIRE, AND IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND I THINK WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVEN'T MONITORED THINGS SO THAT THAT'S THAT THAT ASPECT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. BUT IT'S JUST A QUESTION I'D ASK . AND, UM 6 FT FENCE OR AN 8 FT FENCE. FOOT OKAY, 8 FT BOARD ON BOARD WITH THE TREES IN FRONT OF IT AS WELL. OKAY. UM THE ONLY OTHER THING IS JUST. A. I THINK THAT ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T HAVE ONE THAT IS IF THERE IS IF I CAN IF THEY LITHIUM ION BREAKS OUT THIS THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO CONFESS MY IGNORANCE OF THE DETAILS OF THE LITHIUM IF IT BREAKS FOR SOME REASON WHAT COMES OUT OF IT, AND HOW DO WE KEEP IT OUT OF THE WATER? SO YEAH, SO, ACTUALLY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AND I APOLOGIZE. I KIND OF MISSED THROUGH. THE DISCUSSION IS RETENTION SO WE WILL HAVE A [00:20:03] RETENTION POND ON SITE. UM AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR KIND OF BLOWING OVER THAT, BUT IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW, WITH ENCORE ABOUT HOW WE WANT THAT TO LOOK, UM AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY BUYING SOME ADDITIONAL LAND FROM ENCORE TO THE WEST OF THIS IMAGE HERE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT. UM OR HAVING A SHARED ATTENTION WITH THEM AS WELL. SO UM, AND THE SITE WILL BE DESIGNED THAT YOU KNOW ANYTHING THAT IS COMING OFF THE SITE WILL BE CONTAINED IN THE RETENTION HERE. ALL MY QUESTIONS . COMMISSIONERS DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER A COUPLE OF, OF COURSE. SO IT DRAWS POWER FROM THE GRID. YEAH JUST LIKE A BIG UPS, OKAY? IS THERE ANYTHING ON SITE THAT PRODUCES, PAL? OTHER THAN THE BATTERY GENERATOR GENERATING SERVICES THAT WE'VE BEEN ANY NOISE OR THERE'S NOISE FROM H BACK, WHICH IS KIND OF STANDARD NOISE, BUT NOT NOTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT AHOLD OF MY GENERATOR, NOTHING MORE THAN THE SUBSTATION THAT'S BACK FEED, AND THEN YOU GIVE IT BACK. YEAH, WE CHARGE IT. WE DISCHARGE IT NEVER GENERATING POWER ON SITE. OKAY? SO THIS AREA HERE MARKED SERVICE AREA THAT'S NOT LITTLE GENERATING THING. NO THAT'S THAT WAS ACTUALLY REQUEST FROM FROM YOU GUYS JUST TO HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK OFF OF THE FIRE LANE FOR CARS, SO WE JUST ADDED THAT IN THERE TO BE, UH, CONCRETE SERVICE AREA FOR CARS TO PARK THAT WON'T BLOCK THE FIRE FOOT. FRANCE WILL COVER THIS. YOU WON'T SEE IT FROM THE STREET. CORRECT YEAH, OKAY. AND THE TREES AS WELL AND LASTLY, YOU'RE AWARE THAT THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF EXPANDING EUBANKS LANE. SO YOU'VE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT IN YOUR DESIGN. I? YEAH. THE RIGHT AWAY. THE SETBACKS THAT THEY HAVE IN THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT OF THE EVENTUAL RIGHT AWAY HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THIS DESIGN. AND YOU'RE ADDING A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY DOWN. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. I HATE THAT WALK OVER THERE. I CAN'T WALK IN. THAT'S ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION. I'M SORRY. YOU GO TALKING A LOT. YOU UM. MY QUESTIONS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE STRANGE IS THAT NOT A CREEK. GOING BETWEEN YOU AND ENCORE. YEAH SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY A CREEK, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOME DRAINAGE DITCH GOING ON THERE. YEAH AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF THE BEST WAY BECAUSE THEY NEED ADDITIONAL RETENTION FOR THEIR EXPANSION OF THEIR SUBSTATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO ENGINEER IT THAT WE CAN EITHER HAVE A SHARED RETENTION IN A WAY THAT IS IN THE RIGHT SPOT. UM BUT WE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT FULLY JUST YET. YEAH, I JUST I GUESS SOMEONE HAD TO BE DONE WITH THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE SOME KIND OF DRAINAGE WITH THEM. UM WELL, THAT WILL COME UP IN THE CIVIL ENGINEERING AND I KNOW THAT TUNNEL. SEE ALL THAT. I'M JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS. YEAH, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH HAVE THEY PUT IN THE INPUT OR THAT WHEN ANYTHING WITH THEM SO RIGHT? THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS WAITING ON A COUPLE OF ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THEM LATER ON WITH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR? ONLY THING WOULD BE IN REGARDS TO AND THIS MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO IN THE P D. TEXT BUT I'M I'M ASSUMING IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT THESE THINGS BEFORE WE SIGN OFF. WHETHER IT'S IN THE PD OR NOT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT. WELL IF IT RELATES TO SAFETY. YEAH, I HAVE TO DO IT, OKAY? OKAY? YEAH, THAT WAS MY YES, MY ONLY. THOUGHTS YES. SO WE ACTUALLY SAW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S QUESTIONS, AND I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF PROVIDED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE A KNOWLEDGEABLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT KIND OF STANDARD, YOU KNOW THE KIND OF STANDARD QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS. A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED ONCE THE FINAL TECHNOLOGIES SELECTED, UM AND DURING THE KIND OF FLAT FINAL PLANNING AND INSIGHT PLAN REVIEW. WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM ON ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT. AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT US TO HAVE AN ANGRY FIRE DEPARTMENT ANYWHERE IN THE IN THE IN THE WORLD, SO WE WORK. NO, I'M JUST SAYING, IT'S IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO WE WORK WITH THEM, AND YOU KNOW ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WITH WITH WHATEVER REQUEST THEY HAVE. WOULDN'T FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT. H B A C IS YOU KNOW THE EXHAUST THE CONDENSERS. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH HOW MUCH SOUND IS THAT GOING TO CREATE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTIAL IS ACROSS THE STREET. AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT A PARKING LOT ON ONE SIDE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ON THE OTHER UM. MARK MY QUESTION IS WITH THAT MANY UNITS [00:25:01] OUT THERE AND TO H B S. H B A C UNITS. I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE SOUND. HOW MUCH IS GOING TO GET OVER YOUR PROPERTY LINE? YES SO WE'RE HAPPY TO DO DO NOISE STUDIES. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU KNOW, I CAME FROM THE WIND WORLD WHERE YOU KNOW SOUND IS A MUCH MUCH BIGGER CONCERN. UM, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM ALL THE RESULTS OF EVEN BATTERY SITES MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS IS, YOU KNOW THE AGE FACTS ARE USUALLY PRETTY MUCH DROWN OUT BY REGULAR NOISE FROM YOU KNOW THE SUBSTATION NEXT TO IT, OR CARS DRIVING BY, BUT IF YOU GUYS LIKE TO SEE YOU, NO MORE DETAILED STUFF THERE AGAIN FOR US RIGHT NOW THAT THE DETAILED STUFF WON'T BE UNTIL THIS SITE PLAN OR OTHER THINGS, I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT DEFINITELY GOT A GREAT QUALITY OF LIVE HERE AND I EVEN THOUGH THE BENEFITS OF THE BEST SYSTEM COMING IN OUR DOCUMENTED THEIR WELL KNOWN WE JUST DON'T WANT TO. CREATE A. NOISY ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE THERE BEFORE. YEAH OF COURSE. YOU KNOW AGAIN. WE DON'T WANT THAT EITHER. THAT THAT DOESN'T HELP US. YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY, BUT GENERALLY WITH THESE SYSTEMS SOUND IS, UH, IS PRETTY LOW, AND IT'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A CONCERN OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YEAH I WOULD THINK IT IS. HANG ON. I THINK I'VE GOT IT FIRST. OKAY? JUST A BAD SO. I'M ASSUMING THINGS LIKE SITE. SECURITY SITE MONITORING ARE COVERED. ONCE IT GOES FORWARD. UH YES, SIR. UNLESS YOU WANTED SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OUR ZONING JORDAN OKAY? UM REQUIRES OKAY. IT'S A TEMPTING TARGET. SURE PERSPECTIVE. IT CERTAINLY IS. WHO'S MONITORING THE SIDE? WHO? WHAT'S THE WHO IS PLANNING TO MONITOR THAT. AND ARE YOU REPORTING TO ENCORE? YES SO, YEAH, WE WORKED IN DIRECT COORDINATION WITH ENCORE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY REPORT TO THEM NECESSARILY, BUT WE WILL BE MONITORING THE SYSTEM. 24 7. YEAH THAT ONE THING AND AGAIN. THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE HATCHED OUT HERE, BUT IT GOES THROUGH OUR GREAT ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. BUT YEAH , THAT CREEK IS A BLUE LINE, SO YEAH, THAT COULD RUN. GREAT SOME ISSUES IN REGARDS TO DRAINAGE OR TRYING TO FILL THAT IN. RIGHT THOUGHT. NO IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD POINT AND A GOOD CALL OUT AND I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, PLAN FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT AGAIN, IT'S WILL BE. YOU KNOW, DURING THE CIVIL DESIGN WHEN WE REALLY FLUSH THOSE DETAILS OUT, BUT BUT IT IS DEFINITELY A GOOD CALL UP. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR. REGIONAL DETENTION IS ALLOWED. YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, JUST AS A REFRESHER, SO EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT DETAINING ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM USUALLY ENGINEERING AND STILL , YOU KNOW, GENERALLY AS LONG AS LONG AS IT COVERS ALL THE PROPERTY THAT THAT DETENTION IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO, REGARDLESS OF ITS ON ONE PROPERTY OR ACROSS 10. TOM DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? WHETHER THAT'S PART OF THE DRAINAGE. ARE THERE ANY, UM, FLOODPLAIN ISSUES WITH THIS PARTICULAR CREEP THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. COOL. THANK YOU, SIR. RIGHT. ONE LAST QUESTION. THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WE'RE LOOKING AT POWDER OR FOAM. HOW DOES IT WORK? EACH UNIT IS INDEPENDENT OF ITSELF, SO EACH UNIT HAS ITS OWN FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IN IT. A LOT OF THESE ARE EQUIPPED WITH AEROSOL CANS. UM THEY CALL IT STATUS STATUS WILL BE THE KIND OF MAIN THAT MEANS THAT THESE CABINETS ARE SELF CONTAINED UNITS. THEY ACTUALLY WILL RETAIN ANYTHING YOU SPRAY IN THERE. YEAH THEY'RE ALL BASED , SO THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING FLOODING OUT OF IT OR WATER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A GREAT YOU KNOW, IN WORDS, BUT THE REAL MOTTO AND THE INDUSTRY IS LET IT BURN. YOU DON'T LET IT TOUCH IT. YOU DON'T GO TO IT. YOU KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING HAPPENS IN A CONTAINER IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU JUST LET THAT CONTAINER SIT THERE UNTIL EVERYTHING IS DONE. WE COME IN AND WE PULL THE CONTAINER OUT. NO ONE EVER OPENS IT. NO ONE EVER GOES INSIDE OF IT. UM YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY OF THE INDUSTRY THERE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW NO ONE'S HAVING ANY ISSUES AND THE SAME WITH THE STEP UP TRANSFORMERS THAT WILL BE ON SITE. WHO BEAT SO SAME WITH THEM AS YOU MENTIONED STEP UP TRANSFORMERS ON SITE. THEY SELF CONTAINED, TOO, SO THEY'LL BE LIKE KIND OF A PAD. MOUNT UH, INVERTER TRANSFORMER TOGETHER IN LIKE, NOT THOSE OLD ONES WE USED TO DEAL WITH THE PCBS AND STUFF. NO THE NEWER ONES THAT THEY'LL BE. THEY'LL BE BRAND NEW BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY AND WILL BE WILL BE IN A KIND OF CONTAINER SKID IN FRONT OF IT. OKAY? ALRIGHT. DO ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL [00:30:06] RIGHT. OKAY? JIM. OKAY? JAMES. JOHN ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF WE HAVE PARDON? OH, YEAH, THAT THAT THAT'S COMING UP. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. ALRIGHT? STEPHEN I HAD TO LOOK, TENNESSEE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. WE HAVEN'T NEEDED FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE'LL CALL YOU BACK OUT. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. OKAY SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE THE OPEN HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING. WHERE DID THAT CO WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND DID Y'ALL FILL OUT ANY FORMS TO SPEAK? OKAY, BEFORE YOU LEAVE. JUST PLEASE GET WITH LILLIAN AND, UM, FILL THESE OUTS. WE HAVE A RECORD OF WHO SPOKE OTHER THAN THAT. FLIP A COIN WHO COMES UP FIRST. NOT A QUESTION. WELL NOW YOU HAVE TO. YOU HAVE TO COME UP. THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO COME UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS US. AND THEN WE CAN COUNSEL. NICE TO SEE YOU GUYS. EVERYBODY DOING WELL, LOOK. GOD FORBID THE ACTOR OF DISASTER LIFE. IT ONE OF THESE CONTAINERS AND OPEN IT UP. WHAT HAPPENED? I'M SORRY. YEAH. ON THE ON THE PALATE COS ADM STORAGE OF EUBANKS, 35 ALL NIGHT. FLOODED TELL YOU WHAT IF YOU WANT? DO WE WANT HIM TO COME UP THE SAME TIME? JUST REMEMBER THAT QUESTION, OKAY. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF I MIGHT HANG ON ? I'M GONNA MAKE IT QUICK NOTE HERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A LIGHTNING STRIKE OR A NATURAL DISASTER. DISASTER SUCH AS A TORNADO TRANSFORMER, UNIFIED, CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENS? OKAY WE WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH THE GENTLEMAN. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. IF YOU'LL COME UP, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. DONE IT. CAL GIL A LITTLE 32 TO 6 COUNTY ROAD, 25. 02 CATTLE MILLS, MY PROPERTY, WHICH MR MORRIS WAS JUST TALKING IS DIRECTLY ACROSS. SO OF COURSE, THE SAFETY WAS MY FIRST CONCERN. AND A LOT OF THOSE YOU ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. WE'VE HAD HAIL AS YOU LIVED IN WYLIE. NO, WE'VE HAD HAIL GO THROUGH METAL BUILDINGS. I HAD A LOT OF DAMAGE TO METAL ROOF. SO THE LIGHTNING HAIL. THOSE ARE SAFETY. THAT'S ONE OF OURS. I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION ON TRAFFIC . I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO AFFECT TRAFFIC AT ALL. IS IT OKAY? UM AND ANOTHER ONE. OKAY SO THIS IS PROBABLY OUT EVERY PURVIEW. SHOULD THIS AFFECT OUR PROPERTY TAXES OR INSURANCE, RIGHT? HMM. THAT IS WELL, NOTHING WILL EVER AFFECT THEM NEGATIVELY. COME ON. WELL, THE ONE THING ABOUT IT IS THE INDIRECT EFFECT THAT IT WOULD HAVE WOULD BE IF THE PROPERTY VALUES ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY RAISED. IT'S A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS. IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL APPLICATION. SO AND I'M ALREADY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. RIGHT SO AT THAT POINT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A BENEFIT FOR BRINGING THIS PROPERTY INTO A TAX GENERATING SITUATION. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD OR OBNOXIOUS. FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, UH, MR STEVEN AND, UM. I CAN'T SEE HOW IT WOULD AFFECT YOUR RESIDENTIAL. BUT YOU SAY YOUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MINDSET PROPERTY RIGHT THERE. UM AND I'M SEEING IT. OH, WAIT. NO THAT DOESN'T SHOW EITHER. UH ANYWAY, THE FIRST ARE YOU ON 78 NEW BANKS, THE FIRST PROPERTY AFTER 78 CLEARED OUT EVERYTHING WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT THEIR OKAY . BUT IF ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO ENHANCE YOUR VALUES ON YOUR PROPERTY. WHICH WOULD BE NOW THAT'S THE PROPERTY VALUE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE OTHER LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO WHILE IT MIGHT HAVE SOME WHEN I SAY POSITIVE, IT MIGHT HAVE SOME POSITIVE IMPACT ON YOUR TAXES. ULTIMATELY YOUR BENEFIT IS GOING TO BE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A AN IMPACT ON YOUR PROPERTY VALUE ITSELF. YEAH, AND BECAUSE. OF THE FLAMMABILITY HAS HAD AFFECTED IN INSURANCE RIGHTS. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW. THIS IS NOT A BASED UPON THE WRONG VENUE TO ASK. THIS IS NOT A, UM LOST THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. THIS IS NOT A HIGH [00:35:06] RISK. ISSUE THESE THINGS DON'T BLOW UP REGULARLY. MY QUESTION. REGULARLY RIGHT? YEAH WELL, THEY DON'T REGULARLY. I LIKE THAT WORD. THERE'S NO WAY A NEVER HAPPENS, BUT LIKE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER BATTERY OUT THERE, THEY WILL HAVE THINGS GO DOWN. BASED UPON WHAT I'M HEARING. EVERYTHING IS SELF CONTAINED. SO WHEN IT IT, UH BUT IF IT DOES HAVE A FIRE IF IT DOES GO BAD. IT ALL STAYS WITHIN THAT ONE UNIT AND DOESN'T GET DISPERSED. SEE SO THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF MY CONCERNS HE TOOK. YES SHE WAS SWITCHED A LOT OF MY CONCERNS TO YEAH, YEAH. MR MORRIS'S BUSINESSES. PALLET COMPANY WERE FLAMMABLE. OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY . AND BRIAN MAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY MORE DANGEROUS THAN HAVING THE ENCORE SUBSTATION THERE. IS THAT A FAIR? IS THAT A FAIR? THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. OKAY THAT'S ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, OKAY? UM I THINK WE WERE NOT HAVING NOBODY ELSE COMING UP SO STEVEN, IF YOU'LL COME BACK UP, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BACK UP HERE, SO THE CONCERNS THEY HAD WERE NATURAL, BASICALLY ALL NATURAL DISASTER. LIGHTNING STRIKE TORNADO OR HAIL DAMAGE. YEAH WELL, I YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE WORST CASE OF ALL NATURAL DISASTERS, BUT ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW ANY OTHER CIVIL BUILDING THAT'S GOING UP OR, YOU KNOW, THESE CONTAINERS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THOSE SAME STANDARDS THERE. UM YOU KNOW, LIGHTNING STRIKING, I THINK WOULD REALLY BE NOT A CONCERN. UM, YOU KNOW AS MUCH YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE AND INHALE, YOU KNOW. HELL HAPPENS. I THINK THAT THE YOU KNOW THE SYSTEMS ARE WHAT MADE TO WITHSTAND THAT. SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF YOU KNOW ANYTHING HAPPENING, BUT YOU KNOW, UNDER REGULAR CIRCUMSTANCES, AND YOU KNOW REGULAR DISASTERS THAT YOU WOULD CALL WHETHER EVENTS THAT THE SYSTEMS ARE MADE TO WITHSTAND THOSE THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. OKAY? COMMISSIONERS. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR EITHER? THE APPLICANT OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT AND, UM. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. OKAY. I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE NOW. OKAY SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE READY TO RECOMMENDING MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVAL TO GO ON THE CITY COUNCIL. RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER LORRAINE WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCRUGGS LEAVES VOTE. AND WE PASSED 50. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS. HEY THAT IS THE ONLY ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. UM DO YOU HAVE ANY. BEING FROM STAFF. WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ON THE 20TH. UM YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH JUST ME BECAUSE KEVIN'S GOING ON VACATION WITH WITH FAMILY, YOU KNOW. SO HOW THAT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YEAH. YEAH AND IT'S A LONG AGENDA TOO. SO YEAH, YEAH, THERE'LL BE PLENTY ITEMS. EMPLOYER PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BE HERE BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESS COMING UP. UM, OTHER THAN THAT. WITH WHETHER TO MOST MOVIES. THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. UM WE ARE WORKING ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION, BUT IT WILL NOT BE ON THE 20TH FOR OUR NEXT ROUND OF, UM OKAY? YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. UM YEAH, MEETING WILL BE NEXT MEETING. UM, FOR, UM UH, ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, CLEANING THOSE UP AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SO, UM, MAYBE FIRST ONE IN JULY OR SECOND MEETING IN JULY, WILL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO TALK ABOUT HIS WAY TO WORK SESSION. OKAY WITH THAT, LORRAINE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I'M SORRY. LILLIAN I LOOKED AT LILLIAN AND SAID LORRAINE. MY APOLOGIES, LILLIAN. OKAY WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO [00:40:06] ADJOURN MOTION TO ADJOURN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BUTLER. WE NEED A SECOND 2ND 2ND FROM COMMISSIONER BYRNE. PLEASE VOTE. AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.