[Cemetery Advisory Board]
          [00:00:06]
          OKAY I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. UM THERE'S A PLACE TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE HERE NOW. 
          ALL RIGHT, FIRST UP, WE HAVE, UM, ANY COMMENTS ON THE NANDA AGENDA ITEMS? WHICH NOBODY IS HERE, SO OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS CONSIDERED AN ACT UPON APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD 2022 REGULAR BOARD MEETINGS. MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYBODY LOOK THOSE OVER. REAL CHANGE. MINISTER 3RD 2022 REGULAR WIDELY CEMETERY. ANYBODY SECOND. OKAY? OKAY? PAST. MOVING ON. WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE WORK SEX WORK SESSION AND TALK ABOUT THE UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. AND I BELIEVE OUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER. WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE WERE. WE WERE IN THE PROCESS. WE HAD GOTTEN ALL THE DOCUMENTS FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE'VE GOTTEN THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATIONS AND EVERYTHING TO THE TITLE COMPANY. WE RAN INTO A SNAG WITH THERE WAS ONE PIECE OF THE CEMETERY THAT COULD NOT BE VERIFIED, I GUESS, UM BY THE SURVEYORS SO THEY COULD NOT CONFIRMED THAT THAT LITTLE PIECE WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE CEMETERY OR NOT. WELL THAT KIND OF WENT INTO A SPIRAL OF. WELL, IF WE CAN'T GET THAT WE CAN'T GET THE TITLE OF INSURANCE, WHICH ARE ATTORNEYS WERE SAYING WE HAD TO HAVE WHICH REALLY PROTECTED THE CITY. AND THEN AS WE EVEN TALKED YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY IS THERE A WAY AROUND THAT WHILE THAT WAS BEING WORKED OUT, WE WERE STILL CONTINUING THE PROCESS. STILL TALKING WITH EVERYONE, UM. UM WE HAD BRENT PULLED TOGETHER SOME NUMBERS OF WHAT CONTRACTING WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WENT THE ROUTE OF, UM, STILL TAKING IT OVER. HELPING WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF DOING THE MAINTENANCE. WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, SO WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS KIND OF BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THEN WE ALSO TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT JUST THE RECORDS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR STAFF TO DO ALL OF THIS. AND, UM IT WAS A LOT OF THE RECORDS OF SOMEWHAT NON EXISTENT OR VERY, VERY LACKING. I GUESS I'D SAY UM SO TO DO THAT, AND THEN. SELLING OF THE PLOTS, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE SOFTWARE TRAINING. AND ALL THOSE THINGS. UM BUT THE BIGGEST HICCUP WAS THE SURVEY. SO I HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH RICHARD PARKER. OF THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION. THERE WAS SOME OTHER PLAYERS COMING IN THINKING MAYBE THEY WOULD TAKE OVER. UM SO WE KIND OF STEPPED BACK TO SEE IF THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD HAPPEN. IT KIND OF STARTED. THEN A DIED DOWN. UM SO THEN I WENT BACK TO COUNCIL AND KIND OF GAVE THEM AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE WERE. AND THE DIRECTION WAS. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS TIME WE JUST CANNOT DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER. UM. SO WHEN I RELATE THAT BACK TO MR PARKER, UM HE WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO HEAR THAT, BUT, HEY, I THINK WE CAN WORK SOME THINGS OUT, SO HE AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT. MAYBE SOME OTHER NONPROFITS OR MAYBE ALAN FUNERAL HOME, TAKING OVER OR OTHER FUNERAL HOMES. SO THERE'S OPTIONS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW. ARE WE BACK HERE IN 10 YEARS HAVING THIS CONVERSATION? MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW. UM SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO AND WE WANTED TO DO IS BRING THIS BACK TO YOU KIND OF TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE. AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? UM LIKE IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME VERY SMALL CEMETERIES. IS IT ENOUGH FOR A BOARD TO REALLY DO ANYTHING? I DON'T SEE THAT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN , YEAH, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO VOLUNTEER. I MEAN, VOLUNTEER WITH THE CURRENT ASSOCIATION ARE BOY SCOUTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? SO, REALLY, WE WANTED TO JUST KIND OF PUT THIS OUT HERE TO YOU AND, UH, GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND THEN TAKE THAT TO COUNSEL. SO YOU KNOW? OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, UM 
          [00:05:05]
WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT THE WHAT I READ HERE. IF THE CITY TOOK IT OVER, IT WOULD TAKE FOUR FULL TIME POSITIONS AND THE SET INCLUDE THE PEOPLE WHO WORK. ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AND THEN THE STAFF HERE OR THAT'S JUST THE STAFF. THAT YOU WOULD HAVE POWER THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE WORKING. IN HOUSE VERSUS THE. SO THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, GLORIA. SO THE STAFF POSITIONS WE KIND OF DID A WE KIND OF DID A COMPARISON. OF WHAT ARE OUR CURRENT STAFF FOR DOING VERSUS CONTRACT MOWING? FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE FOR THE CEMETERIES. IT WAS GOING TO BE ONLY ON THE CONTRACT. SO WE JUST WE JUST ADDED KIND OF WHAT OUR WHAT OUR PARK STAFF ARE DOING. 
          UM YOU KNOW IF WE WANTED TO GO THE ROUTE OF YOU KNOW, ADDING THIS TO PARK STAFF. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS THE 100. ROUGHLY 161 ACRES, MOST OF THAT'S ATHLETIC COMPLEXES THAT ARE MODE. YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK. MOST OF THE MOWING THAT PARK STAFF DOES AS WEEKLY, THOUGH, AND THE CEMETERY MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO SO WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT MAYBE JUST TAKING THIS TO THE CONTRACT. BUT AGAIN WITH IT BEING A CONTRACTOR DOING IT, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY MOANING AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE. 39 CYCLES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY YOU KNOW, THERE'S 52, YOU KNOW, WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR, SO THIS IS A MAJORITY OF THE YEAR WOULD BE YOU KNOW, CONTRACTOR TAKING CARE OF IT, BUT THAT'S A SO IT'S NOT I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THIS OUR STAFF MOMENT THAT WAS JUST SHOWING A COMPARISON. OF WHAT WE'RE DOING VERSUS THE CONTRACT. BUT IF THE CONTRACT WOULD TAKE IT OVER THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO THE CITY TO TAKE IT OVER TO MOST OF THE CEMETERIES. YES IT WAS. IT WOULD BE $50,000 ON ON ON OUR CONTRACT ANNUALLY ANNUALLY. AND THIS JUST COVERS AND THIS IS ANOTHER THING JUST TO, UH PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MISS ALI WAS SAYING. THIS IS JUST THE MOWING. THERE'S ALSO UM, TREE MAINTENANCE FENCE MAIN THAT'S BEEN MAINTAINING THE ROADS. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE. LITTER CONTROL. UM VANDALISM. YOU KNOW, WE HATE YOU KNOW, SAY THAT, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN, SO I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE OTHER THAN JUST THE MOWING. BUT IN IN YOUR PACKETS, WE WENT OVER REALLY? JUST THE MOWING SO THEN THE OFFICE. STAFF. THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A REALLY BIG TASK MHM AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL. SO IF WE WERE JUST TO LOOK AT THE THREE SMALLER CEMETERIES THEN THOSE NUMBERS GET SMALLER, AND WE JUST ABSORB IT OR. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ALREADY MAINTAINING CRAMER CEMETERY. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH UM YOU KNOW, BOARD PRESENCE WOULD BE EVEN AT ALL THREE OF THESE. I KNOW FOR A FACT, CRAMER CEMETERY. THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES THAT ARE STAFF. UM, PRETTY MUCH MAINTAINS EVERY WEEK. UM SO EVEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S LITTLE CONTROL . THAT'S THAT'S MOWING, SO THERE REALLY WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT FOR THAT ONE. THE OTHER ONE THAT GROWS CEMETERY THAT'S DIMENSION OF PLEASANT VALLEY H O A. SO IT'S CITY PROPERTY. AH BUT ALL OF THAT IS ALL MAINTAINED BY THE WAY. SO AND AGAIN, THEY'RE MAINTAINING IT WEEKLY AS WELL. 
          DID THAT HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I MEAN, SO FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NO LONGER THERE'S NO LONGER A NEED FOR US. YEAH. SO JUST I MEAN EVERYBODY ELSE FEEL THE SAME WAY. YEAH. SO UH, RENEE. IF THE IF WE USED TO SAY TONIGHT THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT WE DO SMELL, UM THIS WITH THE CITY COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, LET'S GIVE IT SOME TIME. WHERE DOES WHERE'S THE CITY COUNCIL GOING WITH US? FROM WHAT I GATHERED. 
          YEAH. FROM WHAT? I GATHERED WITH COUNCIL THAT THEY DON'T SEE THE NEED RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN I SAY 
          [00:10:05]
RIGHT NOW. AGAIN. 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS? HOW LONG THE CURRENT CEMETERY ASSOCIATION CAN REALLY FUNCTION AND DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, THEY MAY GO TO ALAN FUNERAL HOME OR TO ANOTHER FUNERAL COMPANY, AND THEY ALL SAY NO, WE CAN'T DO IT. AND THE CURRENT BOARD SAYS OKAY , WE CANNOT PHYSICALLY MENTALLY WE CANNOT DO THIS ANYMORE. THEN YEAH, THEN THAT'S ANOTHER CONVERSATION. WE HAVE TO HAVE A COUNCIL RICHARD PARKER, SERIOUSLY INTERESTED TRYING TO GET US SOME PEOPLE TOGETHER? YES SO IT'S A GOOD POWER ABILITY THAT THE COMMITTEE, THE LEADER, HE WOULD STEP IN. YEAH. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS. HOW MUCH WORK AND AS WE ALL KNOW, WE HAVEN'T REALLY MET. TOO MANY TIMES. AND THE FEW TIMES WE HAVE MET RECENTLY WAS JUST MORE AS A COURTESY UPDATE. SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO DO WE NEED EMOTION? THIS ISN'T AN ACTION ITEM. IT WAS JUST A WORK SESSION. SO KINDA IF THE CHAIRMAN JUST KIND OF WANTS TO PULL AND TRYING TO THUMBS UP, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF DIRECTION IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED. AND I'M NOT SURE OF HOW IT ALL WORKS. IF THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE TO TAKE BACK TO COUNCIL AS AN ACTION ITEM THAT THEY DISBAND THE BOARD OR THEY PUT THE BOARD ON HOLD. I'M NOT SURE YET. SO ONCE I GET THE DIRECTION FROM YOU THEN I CAN GET WITH OUR CITY SECRETARY TO FIND OUT LEGALLY OR, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT? DISBAND OR COUNSEL MAY JUST SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IT ON HOLD AND NOT NOT BY ORDINANCE. THIS MAN THE BOARD, BUT JUST NOT APPOINT ANYBODY TO IT UNTIL WHENEVER, IF THAT TIME EVER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN'T FIND THEY CAN'T FIND THE PADDLE TO IT OR IT SAID ON THE BIG CEMETERY OR THE SMALLER IT'S ON THE BIG ONE. I BELIEVE. 
          I BELIEVE AND IT'S NOT A HUGE SECTION. BUT IT CAN'T BE VERIFIED. BUT THERE'S NOT A. AND I WAS SAYING THAT FOR CIVIL FEATURE THAT ANYTHING WITH SERVICE TO MEET ABLE TO BE BEAUTIFUL. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. UM, ARE THERE ANY LIKE GRAVES ON THAT PLOT OF LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ACTUAL GRAVES BUT AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE RECORDS. WE DON'T KNOW. IS THERE A D THAT YOU KNOW WHEN SOMEONE PASSES THEY COULD BE BURIED THERE? WE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IS IT NOT LIKE GLOBAL HAPPEN? THAT PIECE OF LAND ISN'T IMPOSSIBLE TO LIKE. CARVE IT OUT AND LET IT GO. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CARVE OUT. WHAT'S NOT YOURS? YEAH I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A LOT MORE TITLE SEARCHES TO FIGURE OUT WHO REALLY DOES OWN IT AND AT THIS POINT, IT'S WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO NOW. THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE CEMETERY WANT TO DO THAT AND FIGURE THAT OUT. I GUESS THEY COULD OKAY. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING JUST THE STATE OF THE HUGHES. UM CEMETERY. I WAS WONDERING WHY THE DECISION WAS TO EITHER. ACQUIRE BOTH OF THEM WHO ARE. LIKE IF THE ISSUE IS WITH THE WILY CEMETERY. WHY DID THEY NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST ACQUIRING THE HUGHES CEMETERY? BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION, AND IT WAS KIND OF PRESENTED TO US ALL OR NOTHING, OKAY? OKAY SO I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TAKEN INFORMAL POLL OR DO YOU ARE? IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT AND DISBANDING? YEP. I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. UM AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE, UM, SERVING, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T MEET AND DIDN'T GET TO DO A WHOLE LOT. I KNOW SPEAKING FOR MYSELF , AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR STAFF WE LEARNED WAY MORE THAN WHAT WE KNEW BEFORE. UM SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS . THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM VOLUNTEER, MAYBE WITH THE CURRENT ASSOCIATION OR THE BOY SCOUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE MAY REACH OUT IF THEY REACH OUT TO US, SO, UM AGAIN. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL AND ALL THE INFORMATION AND THE INPUT THAT YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN US THIS FAR. I WOULD ALSO ADD. THAT WE I THINK WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ALL OF YOU GUYS, DON'T JANET, NEW AND, UH, BREAD THAT 
          [00:15:02]
YOU KNOW, I LEARNED A LOT TO PANIC. QUITE INTERESTING, SO I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT, BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT DID YOU GUYS HAVE DONE? AND THAT WOULD LIKE CITY COUNCILOR. NOW THAT. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. A SECOND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.