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[Historic Review Commission]

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MOST GRACIOUS FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE, YOUR MERCY AND YOUR LOVE AND FORGIVENESS. WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS MEETING. EVERYONE THAT IS REPRESENTED HERE AND LET US BE ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF THIS GREAT CITY OF WILEY. AND WE THANK YOU IN JESUS' NAME. AMEN. AMEN.

REDDIT'S ON OKAY, I SEE IT NOW. UM ADAM A CONSIDERING ACT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 17TH 2022 MEETING MINUTES. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM. DO YOU HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR NO. CAST YOUR VOTE. I'M SORRY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SECOND.

OKAY, CAST YOUR VOTE.

ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSED. WE'LL GO INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA, ADAM ONE, CONSIDER AND ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ON AN EXISTING LOT FOR A NEW RETAIL RETAIL OFFICE BUILDING, LOCATED AT 308, NORTH BALLARD WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. MISS ALI YES, UM MADAM CHAIR ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA. IT SAYS RETAIL RETAIL, IT SHOULD HAVE SAID RESIDENTIAL RETAIL OFFICE AND IT IS CORRECT IN THE AGENDA. REPORT. SO THE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE ON AN EXISTING LOT. THE NEW STRUCTURE IS 1456 SQUARE FEET, AND IT IS FOR RESIDENTIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES. THERE IS AN EXISTING 1250 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING CURRENTLY ON THE FRONT PART OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS TO THE WEST. UM SO WHAT IS PROVIDED IF YOU WILL? SHOW.

THERE IT IS, OKAY. YES. SO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. IT IS A RESIDENTIAL TYPE STRUCTURE. UM IT WILL CONTAIN A 160 SQUARE FOOT COVERED PORCH, TWO BEDROOMS , TWO BATHROOMS AND OFFICE, DINING ROOM, LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN, UM, BY THE PARKING STANDARDS AND BY WHAT IS ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THE PLAN, IT WOULD BE ONE SPACE FOR THE OFFICE IN TWO SPACES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. CURRENTLY THERE IS SIX SPACES ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE OWNER BUILT IN 2019. THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT I DID TALK TO HIM VERBALLY, AND HE DID SAY THAT THOSE SPACES WOULD REMAIN THEY YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR CURRENTLY . THEY'RE THEY'RE RIGHT IN HERE . SO HE SAID THOSE SPACES WOULD REMAIN IF APPROVED. UM SO THE. THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE IT IS.

THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE FIVE DEFINES. DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY AS A SINGLE DWELLING ON ONE LOT. AS YOU KNOW, IN THE DOWNTOWN, HISTORIC DISTRICT, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED IN THE SAME STRUCTURE. BUT BECAUSE THERE IS AN EXISTING UM, STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY, ADDING ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. WOULD NOT BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND BY THE PLANS. IT IS RESIDENTIAL. SO, UM, UM. STAFF FEELS LIKE BY THE

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DEFINITION OF THE ORDINANCE. THIS DOES NOT MEET THE ORDINANCE. NOW SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE APPLICANT. HE COULD. USE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND OFFICE USES IN THERE AND NOT BUILD A SECOND STRUCTURE OR THE SECOND STRUCTURE WOULD HAVE TO JUST BE RETAIL OR OFFICE USE IS NOT A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL. UM AND ALL WE COULD GO BY WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED. SO BASED ON THE PLANS, IT DOES NOT MEET. THE ORDINANCE. AND ALSO. ON THE PLANS THIS UP TOWARD THE FRONT. SO THIS IS BALLARD. THERE IS SHOWING NEW CONCRETE. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS PARKING OR NOT. BUT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW HEAD IN OR. PARKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TO BACK OUT. DIRECTLY ON TO A PUBLIC STREET SO THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED PARKING BECAUSE THE SIX FACES THAT HE HAS IN THE BACK WOULD ALSO YOU KNOW MEAT, THE MEAT THE REQUIRED PARKING STANDARDS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE . UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, OR IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. BUT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL. I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW DID THAT CONCRETE GET THERE? WHAT KIND OF THE SLAB OUTFRONT. WHAT'S IT? IT'S NOT THERE NOW. NO, NO, NO, NO. THIS WOULD BRING IT THERE. APOLOGIZE. DOES THE APPLICANT WANNA SPEAK. COME UP TO THE FRONT, SIR. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, JUST PUSH THE BUTTON THERE. THANK YOU. IT'S MY NAME IS ASUS PATEL. THE ADDRESS IS 1964 SPARKLING WHILE IN TEXAS. SO THE FRONT IS JUST AN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW, RETAIL GUY WHO WERE USING THE FRONT BUILDING. THEY CAN USE IT AS A SITTING PLACE NOT FOR THE PARKING. WE HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IN THE BACK. PLUS. THAT STRUCTURE. WE CAN BARK MAYBE ONE OR TWO VEHICLE ONTO THE DRIVEWAY. SO WE DON'T INTEND TO USE THAT NEW CONCRETE FOR PARKING. THE SECOND CONCERN WAS FOR THE SECOND BUILDING AS A RESIDENTIAL. I JUST SAW IT AS A RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT'S UH THE CURRENT BUILDING IS RESIDENTIAL JOINING SO BUT INTEND TO USE THIS RETAIL. WE GOTTA HAVE IT AS AN OFFICE PARK. SO THERE IS A MULTIPLE SUITE FOR OFFICES BASICALLY. SO THAT CAN BE COMPLETELY AN OFFICE BUILDING OR LUXURY. TELL BILLY. OKAY SO HE'S SAYING THAT IT CAN'T IT CAN'T BE. BUT WILL IT BE? YES IT WILL BE. YES, I JUST THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS SUBMITTED, SO I PRESENTED WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL SLASH RETAIL . IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT BECAUSE THE ZONING SAYS YOU CAN USE IT AS A RESIDENCE OF SELECT RETAIL. SO I THOUGHT I HELD TO PRESENT IT LIKE THAT. OKAY SO THERE'S THE CONSIDERATION. I HAVE THAT EXTENSIVE HISTORICAL I HAVE TO PRESENT WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. THAT'S THE REASON I PUT IT LIKE THAT WAY. OTHERWISE, I WOULD HAVE JUST SAID OFFICE SO YOUR INTENTIONS ARE TO USE IT AS A FULL RETAIL. YES OBVIOUSLY IS. YES YOU WOULD HAVE. WHAT DO YOU NEED TO RESUBMIT? OKAY WOULD NEED TO RESUBMIT AND THEN PRESENT IT JUST STRICTLY AS RETAIL. CAN YOU TELL US? WHAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THERE. AH THAT IS SO I'M I'M NOT OCCUPYING THE OTHER ONE.

THERE IS A I THINK NOT THE INSURANCE AGENT THAT IS ONE OTHER LADIES OCCUPYING THAT AND SEES INTERIOR DESIGNER SO WHOEVER IS COMING, MAYBE MOST PROBABLY THE CONSULTING FIRM OR INSURANCE AGENT OR ANYBODY THAT CAN USE THOSE SPACE BASICALLY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH JUST SO I'M CLEAR I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RETAIL WILL BE THE NEW BUILDING OR THEY EXISTING ONE. THE EXISTENCE ALREADY A RETAIL IS AN INTERIOR DESIGNER THAT IS OCCUPYING THE OKAY. SO THE BACKGROUND WILL ALSO BE RETAIL. YES. OKAY. GOTCHA. UM AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS YOU SAID THAT THE CONCRETE IN THE FRONT IS JUST FOR PEOPLE TO SIT OUT THERE . SO IF YOU IF YOU LIKE TO, UH THERE IS A COUPLE OF THE COFFEE, PRESS AND ALL THE CONCRETE AND THEY'RE LIKE PETRO KIND OF SET UP THERE, AND PEOPLE ARE SITTING OVER THERE. THAT IS NOT MANDATORY. I DON'T NEED TO HAVE IT. IT'S JUST THAT YOU KNOW, I JUST PUT IT IN THERE SINCE I WAS GOING TO DO THE DRIVEWAY. I WAS THINKING TO DO IT ALL THE WAY AT ONE TIME. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T NEED TO REVISIT AGAIN. AND THE PRIME GUY THEY WANT TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING BALLOT SO I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO USE IT. THAT'S THE

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REASON ONLY OTHERWISE WE DON'T NEED FOR PARKING. OKAY, SO WOULD YOU LIKE PUT TABLES THERE OR WHAT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY WOULD YOU BLOCK IT OFF SO PEOPLE COULDN'T PARK THERE IF YOU DON'T PUT TABLES WE CAN HAVE A SIMILAR OFFENSE THAT THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS AIRBNB OR SOMETHING THERE SO WE CAN HAVE SIMILAR FANS OR SOMETHING. JUST TWO PEOPLE CAN BLOCK, YOU KNOW, BARGAIN THAT WE CAN JUST AVOID THAT. YOU KNOW ALL TOGETHER. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW , THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BOTHERING, YOU KNOW, I JUST KIND OF WORD THAT IS A NICE GREEN GRASS THERE. IT'S LOOKING BEAUTIFUL, SO WE CAN JUST AVOID THAT CONCRETE PART, OKAY? BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU PUT SOMETHING THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD, IT COULD BE DANGEROUS.

JUST TOO BUSY TO PUT SOMETHING THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD. AGAIN YOU KNOW, I'M GOING BY THE USERS OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING AND ALL AND I THOUGHT, MAYBE THIS USEFUL FOR THE TENANT. THEY'RE USING IT. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I PUT IT THERE AND RE PLANNING TO PUT THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY THERE.

IT'S A IT'S GRAVEL THERE NOW. SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I DO IT AT THE SAME TIME, BUT SOMETHING IS NOT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO COURT, AND I WON'T DO IT. I DROVE BY AND LOOKED DROVE DOWN THE BACK OF THE ALLEY. IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK CONDUCIVE FOR TWO BUILDINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT THERE. AND HAVE ANY SPACE AT ALL. UM SO I'M EILEEN TOWARDS AGREEING WITH STAFF THAT I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S PROPER TO PUT ANOTHER IN THERE. AND OF COURSE , THE BUSINESSES I WANT TO SEE IS TO BRING IN FOOT TRAFFIC, NOT ANOTHER INSURANCE AGENT ON BALANCE. THAT WOULD NOT BRING IN FOOT TRAFFIC. WE NEED FOOT TRAFFIC IN THE DISTRICT, JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS TENANT WAS INSURANCE. SO I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE OFFICE SPACE OR THERE ARE LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF INQUIRY, WE PUT IT FOR A LEASE AS A SEPARATE OFFICES AS WELL. BUT THE CURRENT TENANT, CUBA, EVERYTHING AND BASED ON THE INQUIRY THAT WE ARE RECEIVING THAT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW MADE ME THINK THAT YOU KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF USERS WE CAN DO IT WITH. THE LORD IS DOUBLE LORD. IF YOU SEE THE NEXT DOOR, THEY WERE LIKE TWO BUILDINGS.

ONE IS LIKE 3000 SQUARE BOARD. ONE IS ALMOST 1000 SQUARE FOOT PLUS SO YOU KNOW WE CAN EASILY BUT THE OTHER BUILDING IS A GARAGE. OTHER BUILDING HAS GARAGE. YES, YES, YES. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. UM SORRY. THE SO THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BUDDING RIGHT UP TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS A 10 FT. 11. FT GAP BETWEEN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE NEW ONE THAT WE PROPOSE. NO, BUT I MEAN ON THE SIDE WHERE IT SAYS NEW CONSTRUCTION. YEAH, THAT LITTLE SPACE DOWN THERE. HOW FAR IS THAT? IS THERE FIGHT. OKAY FROM THE DRIVEWAY. YEAH, OK, YEAH. OH, THE. NOT THAT THAT'S NOT THE DRIVEWAY, NOT RUN. DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE EASEMENT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A SIDE YARD. YEAH, YEAH. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. WOULDN'T IT? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE A SEPARATE BUILDING WHEN INSTEAD OF JUST ADDING ON TO WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE? AND JUST MAKE IT ONE PIECE? AH THAT OLD BUILDING IS ON THE PIER AND BEAM IS COMING IN ON THE PIER AND LIMITS ON THE BLOCK. SO IF WE BUILD SOMETHING NEW AND ATTACHED TO THE OLD ONE IS GOING TO BE REALLY TRICKY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW. STRUCTURED, WISE SOUND. SO IT'S BETTER TO JUST HAVE IT AS SEPARATE. WE CAN CONNECT IT ONE WAY THAT IS, SOMETHING CAN BE DONE LIKE ANY ROOF CONNECTION OR SOMETHING.

BUT TO ATTACH IT TOGETHER. IT'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE BLOCK. IT'S LIKE PR BEAM, MOVED IT UP AND MADE IT EVEN WITH PARALLEL TO THE BUILDING. AND THEN PUT IT OVER HEAD OVER IT. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THE SAME BUILDING. YEAH, I MEAN THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES MORE SENSE AND THEN WE'LL LOOK BETTER DOWNTOWN THAN HAVING TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS. I THINK THE REAL ISSUE HERE, THOUGH, IS THAT THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED? IT GOES AGAINST THE ORDINANCE. SO.

AS PRETTY AS IT MIGHT. LOOK WE REALLY HAVE TO DENY BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL USE. OKAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESUBMIT. WE CAN CONSIDER, OKAY. SO. IS IT GOING TO BE HOLED AGAIN? NEW SUB NEW FEES AND ALL. YES IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE DENIED. UM AND APPLICANT CAN REDRAW RESUBMIT AND IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN. ALRIGHT OR IF THERE IS NO MORE QUESTIONS, NO MORE QUESTIONS. THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY . I SECOND THAT MOTION.

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MOTION PASSES TO DENY IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESUBMIT THAT WE CAN RECONSIDER. UH, A NEW SUBMISSION . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO ONTO ADAM NUMBER TWO ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, CONSIDERING ACT UPON A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST TO REMODEL AND EXTEND THE EXISTING PATIO AND RELOCATE THE A. D. A RAMP ON ARREST ON A RESTAURANT USE LOCATED AT 302 NORTH BALLARD WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT, MISS ALI YES. SO THIS IS FRANKIE'S, UM AT THE CORNER OF BALLOTS AND JEFFERSON, UM, AS THE CHAIRMAN STATED, THIS IS TO EXPAND, SO WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IS THE EXISTING PATIO. PULL IT UP. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO ON THE JACKSON I MEAN ON THE JEFFERSONS SIDE THEY ARE WANTED TO EXTEND THE PATIO. FIVE FT TO THE SOUTH. UM LILLIAN, IF YOU'LL GIVE ME ACCESS. THANK YOU. UM SO IT WILL . THERE'S A PATIO THERE NOW. THEY'RE WANTING TO EXTEND THAT PATIO WHERE THE EXISTING A D A RAMP IS SO WE'LL GO OUT AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FT. IT WILL NOT ENCROACH INTO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK. AND THEN ON THE FRONT SIDE. UM IT'S KIND OF JAGGER SO ONE PORTION OF IT WILL EXTEND THREE FT. THE OTHER ONE WILL EXTEND FIVE. SO THEN THE RAMP AND THERE IS A PORTION OF THE RAMP ALREADY EXISTING AND STAIRS ON THE NORTH SIDE ON THE WEST SIDE. SO THERE WERE WOULD REPLACE THAT AND HAVE THE 88 ACCESS THEIR UM AGAIN IT WILL NOT ENCROACH ANYTHING ON THE EXISTING SIDEWALK. THEY WILL YOU WILL USE, UM, THE EXISTING WINDOWS. SO FOR I THINK IT WAS ONLY SANDRA AND JOE THERE WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN THIS ORIGINALLY CAME THROUGH, SO AS YOU IF YOU RECALL WHEN THEY EXTENT MADE THE PATIO, THEY JUST USE THOSE EXISTING WINDOWS, SO THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN HERE. UM THEY WILL ALSO ADD A STORAGE UNIT STORAGE UNIT STORAGE AREA.

IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. ON THE SOUTHEAST FACE. AND ALL THE MATERIALS, COLOR PAINT AND EVERYTHING WILL MATCH EXISTING. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. COME ON UP, FRANKIE.

YOUR STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. PRESIDENT RED BUTTON. YOU'RE GOOD. IT'S ON, OKAY? AH AH, FRANKLY, JIMENEZ AH! 7 TO 24 ROYAL CAUCUS STATES DRIVE SECTION, TEXAS. SO THE PATIO WHEN IT COMES OUT, WHAT'S THE ROOF LINE? GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IS IT IT WILL BE COVERED THAT POWER PART OF THE PATIO, THE ONE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY? I SUGGEST YOU JUST EXTEND THE WHOLE ROOF OUT. JUST THE SAME, OKAY? IT. JUST, UH AH! WE NEED A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR SPECIAL FROM MY KITCHEN. AND THIS IS GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, LIKE FROM THE FRONT TO THE WRONG SO, BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PHOTOS, THOSE WINDOWS JUST GET PICKED UP . FIVE FT. COVERING YES, THAT'S GONNA LOOK JUST LIKE IT WAS LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED BEFORE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM. I SECOND THE MOTION. CAST YOUR VOTE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT IN THE CORNER. OKAY? THANK YOU. HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA. I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO

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ADJOURN. NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING OR COMMENTS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND CAST YOUR VOTE.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOME MEDALS, IT WILL BE JU. I MEAN, IF MR PATEL BRINGS HIS PLANS BACK IN IN TIME, WE'LL HAVE A MEETING. UM, IN MAY OR WHENEVER WE HAVE THE MIDDLE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.